First of all first. Second of all I'm not sure if it my inner masochist talking but I'm glad Elizabeth is still so hard despite this game being easier then og P3
i used decarabia for diamond dust, rangda for repel and rakunda, hecatoncheires for god's hand, saki mitama for buff and debuff, messiah for morning star. only use theurgy after 2nd phase. it still took me a few tries because of alice's die for me
Finally beat Elizabeth! It took alot of fusions, skill cards and practice, but I managed to push on through and defeat her. King & I hits like a dump truck, and skipping persona was a godsend, because Die for Me! gave me so much trouble, by wasting endure and enduring soul. The 2nd phase was clutch, as I usually got her down to 11,000 hp, so chipping away at her health was tricky. Lowered her defense, used Aliat to deflect God's Hand, got her blewow 10k hp, tanked the Megadolaon with Endure and finished her off with Armageddon. Thank you again for posting this guide, it was very helpful.
I just beat her last night. I actually kinda had fun, Although the rng check that is alice can go straight back into the compendium. I had my 3 main dps dealers as surt odin and mother harlot fire elec and ice. Other than that i just stayed in on Orpheus telos kept concentrating buffing and debuffing waiting on my openings
yesterday somehow i manage to skip the first and second megidolaon, and after she uses diarahan it's really a joke. like, seriously the random persona she uses on the final phase makes it really easy since she's rarely using rakunda.
I can't get Orpheus Telos because I don't have the required Personas, and it's too late to get the ones I need because I'm near end game. Guess I'll have to try and beat her without him.
You could probably still beat her but you'd need to really build out some heavy duty persona's, maybe a Elec Boost + Amp Odin with wind resist for Cu chulainn turn to skip, definitely make Satan with an Ice Focus, stuff like that Chi You is def needed though
Like the guy above said, Saki with resist phys is a good choice I beated her on my second attempt (the first one I failed due to my lack of understanding of her second phase) pretty easily with Saki with heat, debilitate and salvation (even if diarahan would be better for her), Orpheus Telos with Almighty Boost, Amp and concentrate, and a Chi You with endure that I almost didn't use (on merciless), I am sure you can use the same build I did for my Orpheus with a Helel
@@lordfarquaad2319 I beat it in the end. Used Helel, Chi Yu, Baal Zebul, Aliat, Masakado and Norn. Did alot of damage with the King & I Theugy, panta rhei with Norn, and reflect physical with Aliat, then finished her off with Armageddon.
It’s not JUST maxing social in one play through to get Orpheus. You also have to do certain event actions with dorm mates. Ie you have to hang out with the little elementary kid to get Michael unlocked. Beware of that, if you get to end game just based on socials you will not be fighting Elizabeth with Orpheus Telos.
I am a fan of superboss fights, and I know that Elizabeth Difficulty is legendary. I like Reload, and I would like to beat her in this game, but I heard that she was a bit nerfed. How big is the difference between Reload Elizabeth and Original Elizabeth? Can I proudly say that I defeated THE Elizabeth when I beat her in reload, or will it be just "the weaker" version and not the "real" one? Is this version of her still in "the hardest jrpg superbosses category"?
I.....HATE......THIS........BOSS! This lady was Mysterious Figure levels of frustrating in the original game (And by that I mean P3P.) She and Margaret were SUPER frustrating to fight (In P3P.) They beat my ass so bad they gave me a headache that lasted for 2 weeks.
uhhhh... actually liz boss on FES is so much easier, plus you dont break any rules from deflecting melee attacks with high counter that she always does on her 2nd turn..
@laminar2477 no that actually goes to the royal version of the velvet twins (not Lavenza) and any persona game moving forward that has izanagi no okami
Gotta disagree that Elizabeth is the hardest. Well, she certainly is if you fight her blind but the fight is really just a checklist. Do you have endure, enduring will, Orpheus telos, and Armageddon? Congrats, you win
not true at all. you need damage too and if you're on merciless, you're doomed if you're not prepared also divine pillar/firm stance is clutch because, just because telos resists everything, it dont mean you aint dying, ESPECIALLY with that corny ass Die For me she randomly uses instead of eigaon
@@edbarradas5896 Idk man, I've beaten her 10 years ago and basically did the same thing to beat her again (without a particular fusion spell, obviously)
If you can't push it, pull it. If you can't pull it, Megidolaon
“I am the mf that reflects physical”
Arahabaki my GOAT
8:37 oh BTW the slash Theurgy with Crit with 75% +damage will do alot more damage than trickster
You mean scarlet havoc?
Indeed @@TheRealMakotoYuki419
Almighty amp and boost
I knew that boy Jack Frost had my back and look at how he cooked
i bring you megidolaon
she brings you megidolaon
Makes me stiff everytime
And i bring her armageddon 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@DefinitelyNotFort such is the way of elizabeth fight
@@shawnnbitsShe’s not real
phenomenal vid lmao, that last line still kills me
She is so hard, they didn’t even bother adding a achievement/trophy for beating her lol
You get one for inviting her to the crib but not one for thugging it out in the trenches with her it's so funny lol
@@myriadbIades when the achievement is for beating her in the sheets instead of beating her in the streets.
At least she gives you the Omnipotent Orb. Elizabeth would say something like "Here take this, it null all, except almighty. Make Nyx your bitch."
when in doubt: megidolaon
1:30 one thing to note you must do all of elizabeth dates to unlock her battle
First of all first.
Second of all I'm not sure if it my inner masochist talking but I'm glad Elizabeth is still so hard despite this game being easier then og P3
If Elizabeth was easy it would be the most disappointing thing of all time I'm glad they kept the fight so strict
@@myriadbIadesIt’s far easier than portable and FES. I still love this fight though.
i used decarabia for diamond dust, rangda for repel and rakunda, hecatoncheires for god's hand, saki mitama for buff and debuff, messiah for morning star. only use theurgy after 2nd phase. it still took me a few tries because of alice's die for me
I know her weaknesses. MATH!
This boss made me bring out a calculator and damage values and chances of certain moves she would use.
you're going to get very big some day. Keep going
Has restrictions, yet has more than one turn 🗿
I just beat her on merciless and it was not worth it lmfao
The charm that nulls all except almighty is pretty handy. It's gonna make Nyx look like a bitch when I fight her.
On the scale 1 to I need a therapist how bad was it
@MJS-WarZ I mean it only took a few hours but damn lol. Like... maybe a 6?
@@OkamiDarkfyre jeez it’s like fighting the ff15 optional boss at lvl 40 took me so many hours to beat that one and before you know it your at lvl 60
"In every persona game the ultimate challenge that lies before the player is to defeat the velvet Room attendents of that game" persona 1&2
Those games don't exist
@@Mavuika_Gyaru .................. Whatever you say chief
@@Aguywhoexists-p8n I see you don't know the meme. Sad
Ali Dance is so cracked, I dodge most of her attacks within fairness.
dodge builds hell yeah
Finally beat Elizabeth! It took alot of fusions, skill cards and practice, but I managed to push on through and defeat her.
King & I hits like a dump truck, and skipping persona was a godsend, because Die for Me! gave me so much trouble, by wasting endure and enduring soul.
The 2nd phase was clutch, as I usually got her down to 11,000 hp, so chipping away at her health was tricky.
Lowered her defense, used Aliat to deflect God's Hand, got her blewow 10k hp, tanked the Megadolaon with Endure and finished her off with Armageddon.
Thank you again for posting this guide, it was very helpful.
So glad that I could help!
Absolutely using this as a personal guide, you kickass
Persona l guide
I just beat her last night. I actually kinda had fun, Although the rng check that is alice can go straight back into the compendium. I had my 3 main dps dealers as surt odin and mother harlot fire elec and ice. Other than that i just stayed in on Orpheus telos kept concentrating buffing and debuffing waiting on my openings
Also is it just me or does alice just stop going for die for me in phase 3?
What’s the music at 11:13? And great video!
Margaret's theme from Persona 4 Arena
Man you got great script writing and a great delivery. Keep working hard brother the formula is THERE 😮💨😮💨
Mersirius
Well now we have heartless joker xd
Ali Dance+ Ali Grace carry hard for my run even tho it can not Dodge the instakill but still dodge most of the damage
They stack in this game?
@@pawep2966 technicly yeah ali dance reduce hit rate of the enemy and Ali grace enhanced dodge chance to spell
@@pawep2966 always has been
If you can pull: push
If you cant push: megidoloan
yesterday somehow i manage to skip the first and second megidolaon, and after she uses diarahan it's really a joke. like, seriously the random persona she uses on the final phase makes it really easy since she's rarely using rakunda.
I can't get Orpheus Telos because I don't have the required Personas, and it's too late to get the ones I need because I'm near end game. Guess I'll have to try and beat her without him.
You could probably still beat her but you'd need to really build out some heavy duty persona's, maybe a Elec Boost + Amp Odin with wind resist for Cu chulainn turn to skip, definitely make Satan with an Ice Focus, stuff like that
Chi You is def needed though
I don't have Odin either lol. I maxed out alot of social links but not the ones that mattered apparently
Like the guy above said, Saki with resist phys is a good choice
I beated her on my second attempt (the first one I failed due to my lack of understanding of her second phase) pretty easily with Saki with heat, debilitate and salvation (even if diarahan would be better for her), Orpheus Telos with Almighty Boost, Amp and concentrate, and a Chi You with endure that I almost didn't use (on merciless), I am sure you can use the same build I did for my Orpheus with a Helel
@@lordfarquaad2319 I beat it in the end. Used Helel, Chi Yu, Baal Zebul, Aliat, Masakado and Norn. Did alot of damage with the King & I Theugy, panta rhei with Norn, and reflect physical with Aliat, then finished her off with Armageddon.
It’s not JUST maxing social in one play through to get Orpheus. You also have to do certain event actions with dorm mates. Ie you have to hang out with the little elementary kid to get Michael unlocked. Beware of that, if you get to end game just based on socials you will not be fighting Elizabeth with Orpheus Telos.
I am a fan of superboss fights, and I know that Elizabeth Difficulty is legendary.
I like Reload, and I would like to beat her in this game, but I heard that she was a bit nerfed.
How big is the difference between Reload Elizabeth and Original Elizabeth?
Can I proudly say that I defeated THE Elizabeth when I beat her in reload, or will it be just "the weaker" version and not the "real" one?
Is this version of her still in "the hardest jrpg superbosses category"?
You say I am malenia blade of miquella
I say I bring you megidoloan
We are not the same
YOU MY GOAT
What do you get for winning?
She gives you the Omnipotent Orb which makes you invulnerable to all attacks except almighty
Also bragging rights
@@myriadbIades I’ve never beaten a velvet room attendant and I don’t think I can beat this one either 😞
@@randomgamer625 You absolutely can! You just need to plan ahead and see what works best for you
is it possible to repel megy delone?
It's an almighty attack so you can't
@@myriadbIades 🥲
No, she'll spam that bullshit like he'll if you disobey her hidden rules. You gotta fight dirty back.
So who is harder between Elizabeth or shiva
SMTV Shiva? I would probably say Elizabeth but smtv things can snowball really hard too so it's tough
Video made for me
You know I can beat Elizabeth in a “fight” but not like this.
I.....HATE......THIS........BOSS! This lady was Mysterious Figure levels of frustrating in the original game (And by that I mean P3P.) She and Margaret were SUPER frustrating to fight (In P3P.) They beat my ass so bad they gave me a headache that lasted for 2 weeks.
Elizabeth in FES is one of the top 2 hardest bosses I've ever faced ever it literally comes down to a coin flip
@@myriadbIades F&H levels of vibe checking
No EN Elisabeth. Shame
And I thought the nameless king was hard
Wait till I tell you about how the original version quite literally is decided on a coin flip
call it hard when you play the original, there is truly infernal
How do we tell him
uhhhh... actually liz boss on FES is so much easier, plus you dont break any rules from deflecting melee attacks with high counter that she always does on her 2nd turn..
Elizabeth is not the hardest boss in Persona. Margret is.
Me when I lie:
This is a joke, right? Margaret is the easiest of all the Velvet attendants.
cmon guys he's obviously joking. everyone knows the hardest boss in all of persona are the two mayas you fight when protecting yukari.
@laminar2477 no that actually goes to the royal version of the velvet twins (not Lavenza) and any persona game moving forward that has izanagi no okami
@laminar2477 Maybe I need to refight all of the attendants again. It's been a while.
This aged poorly
She is easy in reload
Gotta disagree that Elizabeth is the hardest. Well, she certainly is if you fight her blind but the fight is really just a checklist. Do you have endure, enduring will, Orpheus telos, and Armageddon? Congrats, you win
not true at all. you need damage too and if you're on merciless, you're doomed if you're not prepared
also divine pillar/firm stance is clutch because, just because telos resists everything, it dont mean you aint dying, ESPECIALLY with that corny ass Die For me she randomly uses instead of eigaon
@@edbarradas5896 Idk man, I've beaten her 10 years ago and basically did the same thing to beat her again (without a particular fusion spell, obviously)