What makes the BEST freestyle FPV frame?
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
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FPV Freestyle Pilots / Hosts -
Drew Camden [Le Drib]
/ ledribfpv
Alex Vanover [CaptainVanover]
/ @captainvanover
Shawn Morrison [Let's Fly RC]
/ letsflyrc
Caleb Wright [BubbyFPV]
/ bubbyfpv
Production Team -
Drew Camden/Caleb Wright - Producer
Flying Home Productions - Editing Team
So funny to watch bubby just sitting there the whole time hardly saying a thing no triggers for bubby he's got the super spoiler and he's proud of it the lads flying speaks for itself. Which shows as long as your happy with your own kwad you can do anything. 🤘
“Just watch his last flight video”. Lmao 🤣 running joke
"let the adults talk bubby" that was vile😂😂😂😂
Alex is so triggered 😂
What a baby....
@@Dec1duousTreedude... really? You the type to watch reality tv and believe its all real? Or wait perhaps they should just all agree instantly and sit quietly... thatd be a great video.
He kinda has a right to. The moxy and skyliner are old-school asf and kinda shitty
33:40 just gives such a sour look for alex. He definitely has one of the biggest if not the biggest ego in all of FPV
Again at 37:15
Jesus man why is alex so condescending here. Its one thing to refute with facts but this is belittleing
Ayy Alex chill blud
Vanover = EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !! LOL
I love how passionate all these guys are about their builds! Comes down to your style of flying. I’m looking at the vanny or skyliner. Thanks guys for a great video!!
29:22 with a bit of weight, a pilot can use momentum to intuitively maneuver a kwad through a path. A more “grippyfied” kwad is also a kwad that has to be flown constantly through a maneuver.
Once again the build designs reflect the tastes of the designer. Racers always have to constantly fly their lines to get a good time; dedicated free stylers, and bando rippers, are chasing gaps at all odd angles. Control impute can flub up a gap, so trusting in the kwads momentum to keep heading helps make reliable tricks.
Of the four, i want the tanq the most, not having to repair stuff is more fun for me. One frame outside of these four that i feel should be mentioned is the TBS source One, for the simple reason that you will never run out of places to get spare parts, where as many other frames tend to be somewhat limited time only and parts dont swap to the next version.
I love my tanq2 and tanq-s
I thought Alex was going to take his toys and go home. Bobby should've slapped him on the multiple comments about the adults are talking.
Vanover has to have the last word. So competitive and has to defend himself when he gets even the smallest of jabs.
So obnoxious. I really liked him until this video
Cause he's competitive and it shows :)
Don't overthink it bro
@@mitchdunn8479 Agreed. I lost a lot of respect for him after this one. Rude as hell, lacking professionalism and diplomacy amongst peers. What a little baby.
@@Dec1duousTreehe’s built a drone frame he loves and he’s defending it with his competitive personality. Keep grinding vannystyle👍
I saw that Joshua Bardwell reviewing the Rotor Riot frame and the Boatgrinder frame. And I saw that Botgrinder had a new friend with whom he makes podcasts and they inhale some oils there. And I thought that maybe this is a good practice and Rotor Riot should also apply this practice in his blog.
The Tanq FTW. Shawn designed a killer quad.
This was one of, if not the best!!! Love the banter!!! True friends!
Tanq for the win!!! now if yall can make a un bendable bell for motors ill be unstoppable lol ive destroyed a skyliner, a vanny and a bubby frame multiple cl1's cl2's and the tanq keeps on trucking
23:21 that eye roll from vanover should be a meme
A Lot of jabs at Vanover in video and comments, but I do love how thought out each statement he says he can back. Not just going to "I can't explain it it just feels better". I love Drews style by far, but I resonate with Alex on almost everything else supringsly. IDK , I just like ppl who stand on their word but when it comes to the hard stuff who do they get to fly it? nough said. Love the dynamic of them all though, and if Alex ever gets to robust in his know it all cander just invite Bardwell around he seems to know more and it keeps Alex simmered down lol
All these guys are great and have such different styles and knowledge. Such an awsome conversation.
Vanover is a great pilot, but I don’t imagine he’s a lot of fun to be around. He’s the mouthy kid.
I have the skyliner. I crash it all the time. Its very durable. So I bought a second one for the hell of it.
Just got the vannystyle frame weight totally makes a huge difference. When it comes down to it everyone has a unique style, test them all out go with what "you" are comfortable with...cheers
I feel like the Vanover frame is the best design from a technical perspective. As a new pilot that is, hopefully, about to build my first soon, the Tanq is the most appealing to me right now, followed by Skyliner, Vanny and lastly Moxy. Moxy is just designed as the perfect frame for Bubby that you can happen to buy, it has the most character and works great for him. New Challange LetsFlyRC has 3 packs to fly the Vanny and see if it holds up, no intentional crashing.
I know I am late to the party, but man.... this was funny af. I originally put this on to listen to while I was editing, but once they started talking about weight, I could not get any editing done. I kept getting distracted by the "friendly".... **heated**... debate. I paused it at 34:06 to start writing this comment, and it is a great frame to giggle at. In the durability portion, no one is going to argue with Sean in durability, so he gets to just giggle at them argue about second rank... (After finishing the video) Oh my goodness that was awesome even at the end where everyone but Vanover was happy and upbeat, he still seemed a bit annoyed at the others.... I guess being a competitive racer makes it like that.. Thank you for the great video, it was a joy to watch.
Vanover is so keen to win everything that doesn't need to be won
This makes me look at Alex in a new way. Man you got to let people have their own opinions. I can’t imagine how awkward it was making this video
100% agree
This was awesome guys 👊🏻 y’all all have some awesome frames . And yes it all depends on the pilot and how they fly it 🦾🙌
Vanover is big mad lmao.
Every frame wins in their own way.
It’s about style and comprise of what you want in a frame.
I love how Alex is such a OCD perfectionist. I can relate 😂
Vanny is a great pilot but needs a lesson in humility.
Just what I was thinking
Right? Side I've never seen from him before.. like dude chill. Be humble. He is coming off like he is on the defense. Why so defensive if the frame is that good?
@@xORLOCKx I have seen his defensive wall come out in some of the RR vids where their is a little friendly competition like he is in it to win money or something. Just something I see more often
@North49RC I see that behavior in a lot of individuals who are at the top of their game respectively. From formula 1 to Alex in drone racing. You see top tier athletes act this way. Maybe when he retires the humility will come. I respect the guy for his level of skill and knowledge.. wouldn't be so inclined to hang out though 🤣
Vanny may have the lightest frame, but Bubby's cookin'
Swag all day.
good blast guys,
About the weight issues: you can always increase the rigidity of your carbon fiber by going to T800 for example; it's 30% more rigid than T600 carbon fiber, and it allows for a lighter frame (~15-20% depending on the design).
Came to see some nerds bickering about subjective things, was not disappointed.
All awesome pilots flying excellent frames. I'll stick with my Apex. 😃
4 pilots bicker at each other for 53 minutes.
The skyliner mark 3!
37:36 we want to See a Rotor Riot Crash compilation 😂 the people need to know the truth about FPV
I'm gonna go on a limb and say Alex is a bit of a primadonna....every sport or hobby has thT guy that is insanely good but so full of themselves and act like they're a Rockstar.....the fact that he belittled bubby by saying adults are talking and how buthurt he got about being teased....I bet he gets really upset when cameras are off
i wonder if vanny's quad being locked in and going where he intends it to go instead of blowing out corners and stuff would help the other 3 crash less lol
BOUT TO THROW THAT MOXY AT ALEXS HEAD TO SEE WHAT BREAKS
I kinda love this video idea. It's just "lets get all the guys together and make them argue for an hour" lol
Alex out here fighting for his life 😂
I'm new to drones but i have been into RC since the early 80s. For me i think that my first drone is going to be the Skylight but I will be modifying some of the Plates, i do have a lot of experience with carbon fiber and yes the grain of the weave is important but you can still use cut outs . Here's a old school tip , you can use super glue on the edges to keep the carbon fiber from splintering. I like Rotor riot and will be ordering from you guys soon as I can get enough money, I'm disabled and can't work anymore. It's too bad you guys don't sell HDzero, I'll just have to get those parts somewhere else and I do wish that I could get the Radiomaster Boxer Max, in red but with the Rotor riot gimbals, without being stuck buying the radio and the gimbals, because I can't afford to be stuck with the red ones that come with the Max, but so be it. I do wish that Drew would make a lite weight version of the Skylite and Skyliner
Really great to have a long video of you guys talking about stuff you're passionate, I love it ! Would have been awesome to have some flight footage with your live reaction for the different frames. Still a great video thanks for the content !
This discusion was personal!!!!!
It'll be great to start comparing with some of the frames out there, especially the newer ones with the side plates.
Love the skyelinerrrrrr
Haven't watch yet... But.,... Moxy all day every day!
Bubby is such a nice guy. You can just tell from this video that he has a great personality
And i really dont like vanovers attitude
I'm getting the Moxy I ordered today!!! Sorry Bubby I got the one without the spoiler 😅...
I didn't really learn a lot from that video, but it was for sure fun to watch.
If I had to choose one of those 4 (assuming all come at the same price, which is an aspect you didn't talk about) I would go with the Skyliner or the Tanq. I agree with another comment here, Tanq with 6mm arms would be great!
I love these videos
and bubby has that signature l!isp! but boy can he rip a pack!
Hes like whats the all up weight of ur drone (the tank)?
Hes like idk.. me thinking his scale doesnt go that high 😅😂🤣
@Rotor Riot One year late but other than crashes one factor in durability is stress. Fibers aren’t interwoven in Z, they are stacked in resin, any height makes the part more rigid and changes the resonance and interlaying stress.
Obviously a stressed part is more prone to break in impact compared to a less stressed part. Hope my English is good enough and thanks for all the content!
Best episode ever
Thanks guys u explain everything great. Love to meet u all one day
Nice little grudge :)
Would be nice to try them all. But I have a pal who designs a frame and nothing beats how easy that makes it to get the changes you want and how fast you can get spare parts. And it flies great for my style of crashing :)
Tanq with no gopro is a really compelling package... but probably too heavy with one...
I have a few Vanny's and really enjoy them.. nice mix of weight and durability.
I really like the Toilet tank... Although the Bridgecity Burnside is my primary basher...
I like Drews point about carbon being strongest using its width and continuous fibers... but aero...
What's up with you guys? I could be cutting through that tense atmosphere you had there
This is how you make a decision on what frame is best for you! Amazing video not just another RUclipsr putting a frame together and assuming oh this is good or not with their bias complaining about press nuts stripping with their power tools and battery pads not being sticky enough
SKYLINER FOR THE WIN!!!!! HOOO RAAAAA !!! Le Drib you the man!
My question between vanover and letsflyrc frames. Given the same pilot flying each frame, what one would you have to replace more motors? Arms are far cheaper than motors so if an arm never breaks but that impact is taken by the motor. I’d much rather replace an arm than a motor.
Vanovers frame does not offer great motor protection, my front motors get dinged/scratched pretty often. can't speak for the tanq though.
@@thomasp8394 that’s a good point.
I would take the Vannystyle since it's the closest to the frame I run which is the AOS 5 v2, not as strong but flys AMAZING
LAST frame i purchased from you guys ... i ended up with a bubby drib
Honestly I’m between Vanover’s frame or bubbys frame, the frame I use for my 5" is the TBS source one V5, and I love it and it’s very similar to Vanover’s frame
as a cad designer i would go for a TANK drone ;)
I’ve been flying the skyliner mk3 nearly every day since it came out. I fly hard and crash hard. I have yet to break any carbon. Out of all the 5” frames I’ve built, it’s the most durable and has the best flight characteristics to me. I did replace 2 arms but only because i had them and the tips were splintering. Skyliner mk3 ftw.
After watching this video I decided on the MK3 pro-built quad.
@@jacobkeller29 great choice. It’s an excellent frame.
redo this video with bardwells and pdevx frames
I love the moongoat frame 😅
It's simple you just cack it over more 😅. I agree throttle to get over something is more predictable. I feel like doing wall rides or zero throttle yaw moves where you need to throw it you can use the GoPro weight. On the other hand a light quad will stop flowing because it grips but usually when needed.
Vanover is like “my frame is easy to build, just watch a video of me building it to understand” lol that doesn’t make it easy
I really like the gep rc mock 4 . I have never broken an arm but i did beeak the bottom plate but that was from a 40 foot fall into i big ass rock. It has plenty of room. Im not sure the weight of it . But i like what i like though.
The bigger they are the harder they fall.. It applies to both frames and ego's, lol. I am all for keeping the weight down myself, of course the frame has to still be rigid. But, I don't fly bando's, if that was the case I'm sure my needs would change.
Should do a test and see how far or how high someone can throw each frame. And see if any of them get damaged.
good review! it would be great if you could timemark video for faster navigation.
This was better than a Real Housewives reunion!
You can sacrifice durability if it improves your flight in my opinion, especially if you can fix it quickly. That's why I also think thin, light props are better, especially in 3D. I don't care if they break quickly. A prop is quickly replaced if nuts are used. And the costs are just fun costs that I'm happy to accept if you can increase the fun...
Love my Beavers!
Im building a Vannystyle setup tonight live on stream😀
You should build all four of those frames up with Identical components and tune. Then give us a Feel in the Field review.
The biggest thing for me about weight is that grams saved equates to longer flight times on less battery which equates to a lighter quad. It's a slippery slope to add weight to a flying machine.
From Alien until APEX.... ImpulseRC ....one of the best Freestyle Frame.....👍
(Weight,Durable,Good Feel of fly,Best Material,Innovation Design... 😋)
Baby Bubby i 😍 your toys with spoiler LOL.......
Drew is Old Style,..... like it❤
Tanq it is Rock but who knows the feeling of flying?.....😉....
Alex any frame your use,... your Skill make all the frame is good....😜,.......
I have and I love my HD1 Rotor Riot,....( but i setup analog with single esc 😉👍)....
(Private opinion = No Debate)
I have been flying the Vannystyle for over a year with a Gopro 11(785 grams). I've crashed it 30+ times and have only broke two arms, no damage to any of the plates. Motor protection is not great, all of my front motors get scuffed up and I've bent a few bells. Build was a bit of a pain in the ass, I used a tmotor f7 pro stack and had to flip the FC to get it to squeez in there. I fly j40s and j37s for the most part, 5.1 inch props feel a little cramped. flight performance is superb, it's on rails with basically a BF 5 inch standard preset with some slight tweaks. Most likely going to get a demibot, tanq, or siren f5 for the next full build.
If Vanny hasn't broken a top plate he needs to fly harder. 🙂
Alex vs everybody, (edit) alex vs bubby😂😂😂
I liked this tossup, good dudes, hi
I am about 2 embark my fiancee & myself, into a fpv freestyle build, & I am psykeD - We got ourselves a
iFLIGHT AOS 5.5" EVO 1.2 Frame -
I really liked this debate, U were awsome
I picked a vannystyle because $300 digital is a $300 digital in 2023... Did break an arm after months and crashes..... After this show I might have done the 1000cc sport bike mistake and not able to enjoy the others is what you are telling me hahaha.
Always been in love with Armattan a cage fighter with the pavement and trees though so i wanted a tanq for the first hope to have them all like Pokémon though haha
I will eventually swap the letsflyrc motors for something a bit larger on my Tanq. I know that will sacrifice more flight time, but I do wish it had more power. If there is a Tanq V2, I'll get it, but I hope it comes with plate holes to help with mounting equipment. I'd also like to see cutouts along the waist of the top plate to accommodate traditional mounting of larger batteries.
Guys, you need to do a crash test content :D
Was waiting the whole video for the flight test where everyone would try each other's frames and comment on the characteristics...
enjoyed this
Alex be like, "Come at me Bubby!!!"
I'd like to add that I have never broken an arm of my HD1's, and I have ran full speed into brick walls.
I'm team Alex, since I switched from the session to the 6,9,10, it has never been the same.
I have the vanny and its a nice frame. I just wish it wasnt so tight. I dont feel that 1 or 2 mm here or there would be that big a deal and would make install SO much better. the walksnail V1 VTX is a TIGHT fit. the TANQ would be almost the perfect frame for me if the arms were reasonable IE 6mm instead of 8
If I was going to buy one, it would be a Vanny frame , it’s the most elegant…The tank would be my second choice if it weighed 30-50 grams less.
Bubby and Vanny should build each others frame and do a bando demo derby
tbh, i’ll go for vanny style for freestyle
Vannys frame is nice especially the low weight. But I fly 3D and I’d surely break it. I definitely want a tanq. I may just give them all a test eventually
Do a blind test, pre-load one of each with a decent tune and let everyone blind text not knowing what they’re flying and give it a score. Then revel what was what.
I'll just say. Toilet Tank is underrated for sure.