Yeah. Similar to why I almost can’t listen to Eric Murphy anymore. He lets people get away with way way too much and somehow gets pranked by the same callers over and over because he can’t figure out they called previously just to say the N word or some anti trans shit or something.
@@crixuscdxxMatt would have shouted at him then hung up. Id rather have someone talk to him and let him articulate his ideas, no matter how crazy it is. It's then up on the internet forever for people to compare their beliefs with his. They will soon see his ideas are indefensible. If Matt was on the show all we would get is Matt being a blowhard and then hanging up before we could hear what he had to say.
It’s worse. He thinks the only people that believe in the supernatural being known as the FSM are the people that are defined by their lack of belief in supernatural beings.
John, its not the lag when you ask a question the host begins to respond, and you jump on the first words they say. That demonstrates that you hear them answering, and are trying to head off their answer. Do better.
If he truly believes that atheists actually believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and don’t just use it as a satirical way to show the flaws of the god hypothesis, then he understands nothing.
@@reality-matters When it comes to the rationality of belief, myth and fiction are fundamentally different. When creationists make their car design analogies for evolution, we say "cars aren't alive!". Guess we can't do that anymore now that analogies have no minimum standard
I would love for someone to do a deep dive on who these "butt bots" are, what they're trying to accomplish, and how so many of these accounts are created every single day
fr fr, like bruh, I wanna watch Christians get dunked on, stop showing me your ass while speaking in a different language lol EDIT: so I put their messages through Google translate, and they're saying in Italian something about threads and how this shows that when women come together, they can acheive anything... first off, the fuck are they talking about, what they're saying doesn't make sense to be in this type of video, and second of all GET YA ASS OUTTA MY FACE, I'M TRYING TO LAUGH AT THE CHRISTIANS LMAO
Yup, his entire MO, they falsified his first claim and it was a spiral after that. Total dishonest, arrogant, absurd pointless rubbish, They were too kind.
Oohhh, I remember this call. It was so ridiculous. This dude had no interest in a real, honest conversation. Very comfortable and confident in his ignorance... as usual.
A lot of the theistic debating points that carried some intellectual weight have all been debunked, so any rational person still holding to theism is smart enough to not call in and bring them up since they've likely realized they don't hold. What's left is people at the level of "... but that's just a theory, so you just BELIEVE in a different guess"
I think most earnest theists have been scared away from calling in because they know they can't defend their beliefs. Only the deluded or dishonest will engage.
This episode with Gutsick Gibbon & Grayson was great. They are a really good pair. I mean, pretty much all of the hosts/pairings on The Line are great, I just wanted to give these two a shoutout for working so well together in this episode.
According to google. Famous nontheistic groups include taoism, buddhism, jainism, and confucianism. They have supernatural beings that help or can harm them but the belief is to follow your dharma/duties as a citizen of the world and they believe in karma.
Before he was a multidimensional time traveler from another timeline, John said he wasn’t Christian he was “Native American” which is a descriptor of a group of people not utilized by that people. It’s not an in group term. Troll level - empty bong - no stink.
@@sansnom508not always. There's non-ferritic materials which are also magnetic. Cobalt being a good example. That said, most (all?) of the strong magnets we use some iron in the alloys. Neodymium magnets, for example, have 2 neodymium elements, and 14 irons in the crystal.
@@sansnom508 i got the joke, I was just doubling down with the nerd voice. A big part of it was that I was curious what neodymium magnets were made of, so I read the Wikipedia page, and felt compelled to share this newfound knowledge that they were mostly iron. My comment was 14 parts ironic for every 2 parts neodymium.
@phillyphakename1255 I'm sorry to have snapped at you. Now that I know better, please take it as a compliment of your nerd improv talents, you had me fooled 👏👏👏 And lol.
Caller John : “y’all wanna act like you know what the hell is going on around you… Unlike me, John, the caller, I like making it abundantly clear that I have no understanding of what’s going on.”
Oh, poor John, he's just in denial that I trapped him in a Cycle of Stupidity. It's the interdimensional version of prison. I'm sorry, but he'll be back when his loop comes around again. The repetition gives him a weird side-effect of arrogance.
Um... John, it clearly wasn't a case of "lag" being responsible for you talking over them since you have a tendency to cut in quite a while into what they are saying, like right after you blamed it on lag... or else that was some *massive* lag.
It's amazing to me that people are hung up on the universe being the "only" thing there is. It's exactly like when people believed that the Earth was the only thing and those were just lights in the firmament.
The hosts are great science communicators, but if they keep doing this they'd be wise to take a few pages from the Matt Dillahunty playbook. Matt would have cut this drivel off after about 90 seconds. The caller was obviously not trying to present a valid argument. He was simply trying to fluster the hosts, and he kind of succeeded.
And that guy is an emotional , rude ,a!shole who only cusses his guests ,that shows weak arguing skills , who has no patience or shows any type of respect to his guests. He should be on Jerry Springer if it was still on ! At least these guys don't cuss their own guests !
The way he just folded the societies with no religions into his own worldview without skipping a beat and justifying them would be impressive if it weren’t so frustrating.
As a native myself my beliefs are of personal briefs so more spiritual and animistic. Basically respect nature and people and we one with everything. I don’t preach this it’s my own personal beliefs :-)
Ah yes, he's an interdimentional time traveler, but when we ask for evidence, he conveniently can't display anything to anyone or say anything to convince them and leaves when they play into his obvious ruse and cant keep up so he runs LOL what a troll
The idea that the total energy of the universe adds up to zero comes from considering both the positive energy (like the energy in matter and radiation) and the negative energy (like the gravitational potential energy). In physics, especially in cosmology, the positive energy due to matter is thought to be exactly balanced by the negative energy due to gravity. The total energy in a system, including the universe, involves both kinetic and potential energy components. For the universe, when you consider a mass m (like a planet or a star), it has positive kinetic energy due to its motion and negative potential energy due to the gravitational pull exerted by other masses. According to some theoretical models in cosmology, when you sum all these energies up over the entire universe, the total may balance out to zero. This hypothesis is attractive in cosmology because it could help explain why the universe seems to have begun from a state of very low or zero total energy (like a quantum fluctuation in a vacuum), making its creation a spontaneous event.
I think Presupposition is more a method than a worldview, like science. Anyone can presuppose anything. It just tells people when to stop thinking and start having temper tantrums because science disagrees with their desires.
*I am so DISAPPOINTED folks.* This was a perfect opportunity to learn more about Interdimensional dimensionals. You should of had Theist John define them for us. *That would of been very interesting and would advanced science and understanding too.*
Oof... Dog was on a walk when his spirits handed out the brains... Only one type of spirit I know and that gives you a headache the morning after you met it.
John doesnt notice that EVERYthing you "observe" or "see" is necessarily because of physical senses youve used to "see" it. You cant "know" about the REAL world if you close your eyes, only using your "thoughts" & ignore that REAL world. The real physical world & logical steps are the assumption we HAVE to make, if we dont want to keep being in pain, being hit by cars etc. 😁🌏☮️
- the native North American Indians, discerned, as that in everything, having identity within and of itself; and this, was a widespread perception and believe as to other original and native cultures as well
Why would you let him chat without asking what the basis of his statements are? People like him love to sound smart since they're not used to having to back up their claims.
TAKE ME WITH YOU, INTER-DIMENSIONAL TIME TRAVELER! 😹 I WANT TO BELIEVE! We can totes pretend I want to believe what you want to believe until I get where I'm trying to go, just don't share your philosophy with me cause I don't care. 1:50 Oh! He's Native American! Well, I do have some tolerance for the older peoples of the world and their beliefs. Please, tell me about your great spirits. I actually would like to know more about all of this. 3:25 This... is an argument but it doesn't mean anything. We thought the world was flat. It isn't. We think there are gods, yet none have ever done anything in any of our lifetimes. You can't use this as an argument and not acknowledge that to people back then an eclipse would've been some spiritual supernatural occurance that maybe heralded the end of the world and maybe we should all off ourselves. C'mon man. We have come a long way in our understanding of the natural world compared to civilizations that "all believed in a supernatural power". To behave as though we are intellectually the same now as we were then is disingenuous. Furthermore, this is a common theist argument that tries to "prove" their own god while being too dense to understand that an all-powerful god could simply appear to everyone and make everyone believe in the same version of it. 4:10 Right, all tolerance just evaporated. John is a disingenuous !@#$. NEXT! 😹 Not even 5 minutes, John. Geez. ♪ You'd better get that shriveled up thang away from me! F-F-F-Fever 105! 😹 Y'all did not talk to this guy for 38 minutes... I can't with this !@#$. 😹 ERIKA! WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL CHANNEL VIDEO? In my sleep cycle before waking, the old video's clipped song kept repeating in mine mind. I woke up humming the darn thing and tried to find the video. Did I just not try hard enough? I could only find the new 100k subscriber video and... that has too much dinosaur carnage for my dinosaur-loving heart. I wish to continue living in my imaginary world where all dinosaurs were friends and gave each other headpats, not in reality where dinosaurs bit off each other's heads menacingly! 😹
Wait until he finds out about Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe, leaf be upon her. Here in Hawai'i the Hawaiian gods do not have a one main god thing. There's just gods for different aspects of nature.
I often reach a point in videos like this where it's just too much. It's usually a mix of stuff, though -- bad phone audio, an annoying voice, constantly talking over people and interrupting, ignoring questions to go off in another direction, changing the subject in general whenever they start to get proven wrong, and just general stubborn ignorance. I also watch a lot of coverage of political stuff (which encompasses laws, economics, war, human rights, etc) and that too can be enormously frustrating. But in that it is often clear that the biggest offenders know that they're peddling bunk -- for their own self interest -- and just trying to get others with similar interests to join in and also get the ignorant folks to buy in. But this stuff gets frustrating because the people being dishonest aren't doing it for a clear self-interest reason but because they actually believe at least half the nonsense they're spitting out. And the part of them that knows _some or most_ of what they're saying is false is afraid of letting themselves acknowledge that because then they might question the rest of it. And I've _seen_ this kind of clown act a lot, usually among troll-ish young guys who genuinely believe they are smarter than everyone else. But don't realize they're straining the mental gymnastics and honestly doing themselves harm, mentally. Such strong self-delusion mixed with outright lying is just frustrating as can be to listen to.
I'm sorry to be pedantic but, by definition you can not deny the undeniable. If people were "in such denial that they deny the undeniable" then it wasn't undeniable to begin with.
Whether or not the boundary/surface area that define the shape of the universe based on matter exploding out from a point, matter isn't all moving at the same speed for expansion. If one thing near the edge exploded, the stuff it sent out towards the edge would now be moving faster, and thus you don't get a sphere. Bubbles take all kinds of shapes, so that's a poor descriptor either way. I think 😊
Please! For the love of the FSM , stop arguing with ludites for 30 minutes about the shape of the universe when your only question should be " What is this undeniable thing and why is it undeniable?"
The universe is flat. We've measured it. Edit: I mean, there are Young Earth Creationists who do good science. That's about as far from denying the supernatural, as far from the stereotypical scientist-atheist as you can get.
3:00 - all cultures reference a supreme sky deity? Nah man. Earth as the supreme deity, the primordial chaos, chaos ocean deities like Tiamat, Zeus physically on Mt. Olympus, etc... Even with conceiving of asupreme deity living in "the sky" or heaven, those supreme deities get killed, dethroned, suplanted within many cultures mythologies. There is absolutely no consistent view across early or present cultures like you are claiming.
Oh wow! Look at John go! So full of aggressive confidence in his incorrect understandings and his lack of knowledge in how Science is used to learn about things in the natural world, and then having the gall to tell actual scientists how they’re all wrong about various things and that he knows better! I’d bet that he’s even a nightmare for his medical doctors if he’s ever been ill or needing surgery! He’s absolutely incapable of listening to what the two highly intelligent host scientists are saying to him, in their responses to his questions, failing at NOT interrupting them constantly, when they’ve taken their very valuable time to heroically persist in their attempts to explain things to the block head! He takes the information, that was clearly and concisely spoon fed to him, and then he completely misunderstands it all or doesn’t even hear it because he’s talking over them, like a pompous, arrogant tool, but he then goes to telling the two scientists (who are clearly much more knowledgeable than he is, probably about pretty much everything in life ) that they don’t know what they are talking about. His call was so irritating! This is why people like John often don’t get ahead in life; in their jobs, relationships, science and world knowledge, communication skills, parenting skills, etc. He belligerently just asserts that anything that is said by others, that he wont listen to and therefore comprehend, is wrong. The massive chip on his shoulder, and his bewildering arrogance and ignorance, are weighing him down heavily.
Wow this John guy doesnt have a logical bone in his body. He just picks and chooses idead that fit his narrative, while ignoring the vast amount of evidence that contradicts it.
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This call is an example of when 2 people are far to kind and generous to someone that obviously has no intention of having an honest conversation
Not only does he have no intention of honest conversation, but he's also an extremely defensive, condescending, and combative a-hole.
Matt would have cooked this troll 😅
@@crixuscdxx I missed someone saying: "COULD YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP?"
Yeah. Similar to why I almost can’t listen to Eric Murphy anymore. He lets people get away with way way too much and somehow gets pranked by the same callers over and over because he can’t figure out they called previously just to say the N word or some anti trans shit or something.
@@crixuscdxxMatt would have shouted at him then hung up. Id rather have someone talk to him and let him articulate his ideas, no matter how crazy it is. It's then up on the internet forever for people to compare their beliefs with his. They will soon see his ideas are indefensible. If Matt was on the show all we would get is Matt being a blowhard and then hanging up before we could hear what he had to say.
He actually thinks that there are people who really believe in the flying spaghetti monster. That is amazing.
It’s worse. He thinks the only people that believe in the supernatural being known as the FSM are the people that are defined by their lack of belief in supernatural beings.
If John's trolling, his points are so dumb that they're not even funny.
John, its not the lag when you ask a question the host begins to respond, and you jump on the first words they say. That demonstrates that you hear them answering, and are trying to head off their answer. Do better.
I love that John thinks he's being very clever
I wonder what color he thinks 7 is?
While he's speaking condescendingly to them like he knows it all (without any credentials) and they know nothing.
@@trocarcatSpaghetti.
@taterama Whale.
@@brandontankersley8107I bet he wears a red hat and believes that all illnesses can be treated with alternative medicine and pseudoscience.
If he truly believes that atheists actually believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and don’t just use it as a satirical way to show the flaws of the god hypothesis, then he understands nothing.
It just doesn't work as an analogy to me. Christianity is either truth, deception, or myth, and the spaghetti monster is none of these three things
@@muskyoxes do you have proof that the noodly one is myth?
@@joshboydtheactor The noodly one is not myth because words mean things
@@muskyoxesIt's satire designed as a myth.
It does work, and while words mean things, those meanings can be broad or even change.
@@reality-matters When it comes to the rationality of belief, myth and fiction are fundamentally different.
When creationists make their car design analogies for evolution, we say "cars aren't alive!". Guess we can't do that anymore now that analogies have no minimum standard
Stephen Hawking once organised a party for time travellers. He sent the invitations out the day after the party. Alas, no-one showed up.
On Epsteins island?
This is still valid under the hypothesis that you could never travel back to a time where time travel hasn't been invented yet.
I would love for someone to do a deep dive on who these "butt bots" are, what they're trying to accomplish, and how so many of these accounts are created every single day
fr fr, like bruh, I wanna watch Christians get dunked on, stop showing me your ass while speaking in a different language lol
EDIT: so I put their messages through Google translate, and they're saying in Italian something about threads and how this shows that when women come together, they can acheive anything... first off, the fuck are they talking about, what they're saying doesn't make sense to be in this type of video, and second of all GET YA ASS OUTTA MY FACE, I'M TRYING TO LAUGH AT THE CHRISTIANS LMAO
A deep butt dive eh? Kinky.
Butt bots 😂
Ever visited the profile of one? They're just trying to bring people to scam sites and steal their money/info
John “moving the goal posts” when he’s wrong 😑
Yup, his entire MO, they falsified his first claim and it was a spiral after that. Total dishonest, arrogant, absurd pointless rubbish, They were too kind.
Oohhh, I remember this call. It was so ridiculous. This dude had no interest in a real, honest conversation. Very comfortable and confident in his ignorance... as usual.
I feel like the theists might actually be getting worse. Or the troll population is growing...
A lot of the theistic debating points that carried some intellectual weight have all been debunked, so any rational person still holding to theism is smart enough to not call in and bring them up since they've likely realized they don't hold.
What's left is people at the level of "... but that's just a theory, so you just BELIEVE in a different guess"
I think most earnest theists have been scared away from calling in because they know they can't defend their beliefs. Only the deluded or dishonest will engage.
I think it's both, but this one was definitely a troll.
He blocks the good callers. This guy is a troll pretending to be me.
@@NovaSaberNo, people are just getting dumber.
This episode with Gutsick Gibbon & Grayson was great. They are a really good pair. I mean, pretty much all of the hosts/pairings on The Line are great, I just wanted to give these two a shoutout for working so well together in this episode.
John isn't smart enough to be an interdimensional time traveler.
Especially since dimensions don't work that way and he would have said parallel universes if he didn't get all his science from marvel movies.
Maybe he is the monkey that they put in the prototype just to try it out for the first time?
According to google.
Famous nontheistic groups include taoism, buddhism, jainism, and confucianism.
They have supernatural beings that help or can harm them but the belief is to follow your dharma/duties as a citizen of the world and they believe in karma.
Erica is awesome. I was ecstatic when I seen her and Forrest doing another show that I watch. Jon, go home, you're drunk.
Before he was a multidimensional time traveler from another timeline, John said he wasn’t Christian he was “Native American” which is a descriptor of a group of people not utilized by that people.
It’s not an in group term.
Troll level - empty bong - no stink.
Great catch.
Not to mention Native Americans can be Christians. Plenty are.
Some do call themselves “Native American”, some don’t.
John is a troll.
And he’s so angry for no reason
But apparently he's an aboriginal troll.
Trolls know they are wrong. John doesn't know he's wrong.
More than that 😂HAHAHA
_"Dishonest interlocutors yesterday, dishonest interlocutors today, and blimey, if it don't look like dishonest interlocutors again tomorrer!"_
Such a giveaway when he first asks for examples of cultures that contradict his point, then says "of course, i never made that point".
Yup. Blatant dishonesty.
John moved the goal posts off the football field and into the next town
Does he think FSM (bless his noodliness) is unironic?
Unironic means non-magnetic, right? 😂🤣😂
@@sansnom508not always. There's non-ferritic materials which are also magnetic. Cobalt being a good example. That said, most (all?) of the strong magnets we use some iron in the alloys.
Neodymium magnets, for example, have 2 neodymium elements, and 14 irons in the crystal.
@phillyphakename1255 Ffs, I was making a joke. Nothing to do with iron, cobalt, or anything else on the periodic table 🤯
@@sansnom508 i got the joke, I was just doubling down with the nerd voice. A big part of it was that I was curious what neodymium magnets were made of, so I read the Wikipedia page, and felt compelled to share this newfound knowledge that they were mostly iron.
My comment was 14 parts ironic for every 2 parts neodymium.
@phillyphakename1255 I'm sorry to have snapped at you. Now that I know better, please take it as a compliment of your nerd improv talents, you had me fooled 👏👏👏
And lol.
Jack Parsons, a literal rocket scientist, was also a wizard who performed rituals with L Ron Hubbard.
Yeah, craziness.
Caller John : “y’all wanna act like you know what the hell is going on around you… Unlike me, John, the caller, I like making it abundantly clear that I have no understanding of what’s going on.”
Oh, poor John, he's just in denial that I trapped him in a Cycle of Stupidity. It's the interdimensional version of prison. I'm sorry, but he'll be back when his loop comes around again. The repetition gives him a weird side-effect of arrogance.
You pranking the frosh again!?😂
Ericka did AMAZING. New fave host
Um... John, it clearly wasn't a case of "lag" being responsible for you talking over them since you have a tendency to cut in quite a while into what they are saying, like right after you blamed it on lag... or else that was some *massive* lag.
so John doesn't think 2 + 2 is 4? Always? Or is it 5 if you have a stupid 'worldview' ?
2+2=11 in Base 3 but somehow I don’t think that’s what John meant.
2+2=5 for large values of 2 and small values of 5 !
4:00 "even atheists have the Great Spaghetti Monster"
It's amazing to me that people are hung up on the universe being the "only" thing there is. It's exactly like when people believed that the Earth was the only thing and those were just lights in the firmament.
The hosts are great science communicators, but if they keep doing this they'd be wise to take a few pages from the Matt Dillahunty playbook. Matt would have cut this drivel off after about 90 seconds. The caller was obviously not trying to present a valid argument. He was simply trying to fluster the hosts, and he kind of succeeded.
And that guy is an emotional , rude ,a!shole who only cusses his guests ,that shows weak arguing skills , who has
no patience or shows any type of respect to his guests.
He should be on Jerry Springer if it was still on !
At least these guys don't cuss their own guests !
Once knew a guy who 'observed' something and was convinced he had destroyed all of science. No further study or experimentation, just a victory lap.
Love to see Grayson on the Line hope to bring him back soon
The way he just folded the societies with no religions into his own worldview without skipping a beat and justifying them would be impressive if it weren’t so frustrating.
Hes a troll
He will find out that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is real when he lands in pasta hell… 😂
Great show! Really enjoy how on point Erika always is!
As a native myself my beliefs are of personal briefs so more spiritual and animistic. Basically respect nature and people and we one with everything. I don’t preach this it’s my own personal beliefs :-)
Man, it's painful how smart this guy thinks he's being.
Is there a live show today? I can’t find any information on how to join or where comments are or anything. How does anyone join this community?
Ah yes, he's an interdimentional time traveler, but when we ask for evidence, he conveniently can't display anything to anyone or say anything to convince them and leaves when they play into his obvious ruse and cant keep up so he runs LOL what a troll
The problem is that neither host let the caller finish a thought without interrupting. Then complain when he speaks over them. Watch hosts and see.
That hurt my poor brain so much
Learned the states of matter in elementary school
“I feel attacked right now”
DUDE YOU CHOSE TO BE HERE AND BRING 0 BRAIN CELLS
Shoutout to the description xD
I don't know, I think John may have won the debate with all of his solid good points that no one has ever made before.
The idea that the total energy of the universe adds up to zero comes from considering both the positive energy (like the energy in matter and radiation) and the negative energy (like the gravitational potential energy). In physics, especially in cosmology, the positive energy due to matter is thought to be exactly balanced by the negative energy due to gravity.
The total energy in a system, including the universe, involves both kinetic and potential energy components. For the universe, when you consider a mass m (like a planet or a star), it has positive kinetic energy due to its motion and negative potential energy due to the gravitational pull exerted by other masses. According to some theoretical models in cosmology, when you sum all these energies up over the entire universe, the total may balance out to zero. This hypothesis is attractive in cosmology because it could help explain why the universe seems to have begun from a state of very low or zero total energy (like a quantum fluctuation in a vacuum), making its creation a spontaneous event.
John got off his script and into his feels immediately.
- 'there is more to the picture than meets the eye' ,Neil Young & (the band) Crazy Horse
Hey hey my my
@@jaydinledford6990 first, (into the black) ;then, (into the blue) :
**looks around**
Cinnamon Girl.
The condescension is ridiculous. I'm like halfway through and he's such a prick
I wonder what John thinks "undeniable" means, since he thinks I am denying it.
I think Presupposition is more a method than a worldview, like science. Anyone can presuppose anything. It just tells people when to stop thinking and start having temper tantrums because science disagrees with their desires.
*I am so DISAPPOINTED folks.*
This was a perfect opportunity to learn more about Interdimensional dimensionals. You should of had Theist John define them for us.
*That would of been very interesting and would advanced science and understanding too.*
Mmmmm that's good satire
would off
Oof... Dog was on a walk when
his spirits handed out the brains...
Only one type of spirit I know
and that gives you a headache
the morning after you met it.
I wonder if it’s a coincidence that I gave up spirituality around the same time as I gave up spirits? 🧐
John doesnt notice that EVERYthing you "observe" or "see" is necessarily because of physical senses youve used to "see" it.
You cant "know" about the REAL world if you close your eyes, only using your "thoughts" & ignore that REAL world.
The real physical world & logical steps are the assumption we HAVE to make, if we dont want to keep being in pain, being hit by cars etc.
😁🌏☮️
- the native North American Indians, discerned, as that in everything, having identity within and of itself; and this, was a widespread perception and believe as to other original and native cultures as well
John blinded me...............with SCIENCE!!!
Why would you let him chat without asking what the basis of his statements are? People like him love to sound smart since they're not used to having to back up their claims.
TAKE ME WITH YOU, INTER-DIMENSIONAL TIME TRAVELER! 😹 I WANT TO BELIEVE! We can totes pretend I want to believe what you want to believe until I get where I'm trying to go, just don't share your philosophy with me cause I don't care.
1:50 Oh! He's Native American! Well, I do have some tolerance for the older peoples of the world and their beliefs. Please, tell me about your great spirits. I actually would like to know more about all of this.
3:25 This... is an argument but it doesn't mean anything. We thought the world was flat. It isn't. We think there are gods, yet none have ever done anything in any of our lifetimes. You can't use this as an argument and not acknowledge that to people back then an eclipse would've been some spiritual supernatural occurance that maybe heralded the end of the world and maybe we should all off ourselves. C'mon man. We have come a long way in our understanding of the natural world compared to civilizations that "all believed in a supernatural power". To behave as though we are intellectually the same now as we were then is disingenuous. Furthermore, this is a common theist argument that tries to "prove" their own god while being too dense to understand that an all-powerful god could simply appear to everyone and make everyone believe in the same version of it.
4:10 Right, all tolerance just evaporated. John is a disingenuous !@#$. NEXT! 😹
Not even 5 minutes, John. Geez. ♪ You'd better get that shriveled up thang away from me! F-F-F-Fever 105! 😹
Y'all did not talk to this guy for 38 minutes... I can't with this !@#$. 😹
ERIKA! WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL CHANNEL VIDEO?
In my sleep cycle before waking, the old video's clipped song kept repeating in mine mind. I woke up humming the darn thing and tried to find the video. Did I just not try hard enough? I could only find the new 100k subscriber video and... that has too much dinosaur carnage for my dinosaur-loving heart. I wish to continue living in my imaginary world where all dinosaurs were friends and gave each other headpats, not in reality where dinosaurs bit off each other's heads menacingly! 😹
The Time Cops got him for telling people he was a time traveler.
Poor John, he’s just stuck with the supernatural being the creator of everything without any evidence just feelings.
Wait until he finds out about Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe, leaf be upon her. Here in Hawai'i the Hawaiian gods do not have a one main god thing. There's just gods for different aspects of nature.
To deny the undeniable... 🤔
I often reach a point in videos like this where it's just too much. It's usually a mix of stuff, though -- bad phone audio, an annoying voice, constantly talking over people and interrupting, ignoring questions to go off in another direction, changing the subject in general whenever they start to get proven wrong, and just general stubborn ignorance.
I also watch a lot of coverage of political stuff (which encompasses laws, economics, war, human rights, etc) and that too can be enormously frustrating. But in that it is often clear that the biggest offenders know that they're peddling bunk -- for their own self interest -- and just trying to get others with similar interests to join in and also get the ignorant folks to buy in.
But this stuff gets frustrating because the people being dishonest aren't doing it for a clear self-interest reason but because they actually believe at least half the nonsense they're spitting out. And the part of them that knows _some or most_ of what they're saying is false is afraid of letting themselves acknowledge that because then they might question the rest of it. And I've _seen_ this kind of clown act a lot, usually among troll-ish young guys who genuinely believe they are smarter than everyone else. But don't realize they're straining the mental gymnastics and honestly doing themselves harm, mentally. Such strong self-delusion mixed with outright lying is just frustrating as can be to listen to.
Science is an investigation, not a worldview.
It is really weird to describe something unsupported by evidence undeniable.
I'm sorry to be pedantic but, by definition you can not deny the undeniable. If people were "in such denial that they deny the undeniable" then it wasn't undeniable to begin with.
- the song THIRD EYE/Tool (as to the critical AEnima and the very window of true perception _in so to the meaning)
Great ironic imitation of a b0t.
I actually don't think that they were addressing what this guy was talking about.
Whether or not the boundary/surface area that define the shape of the universe based on matter exploding out from a point, matter isn't all moving at the same speed for expansion. If one thing near the edge exploded, the stuff it sent out towards the edge would now be moving faster, and thus you don't get a sphere. Bubbles take all kinds of shapes, so that's a poor descriptor either way.
I think 😊
The flying spaghetti monster is a troll
.. noooooooooo shit my dude
The vast majority of religions do not have a single omniscient deity - including Native American religions. John is a troll
John, why can't you demonstrate this "undeniable truth" in any f'n way at all?
Please! For the love of the FSM , stop arguing with ludites for 30 minutes about the shape of the universe when your only question should be " What is this undeniable thing and why is it undeniable?"
if the universe expands equally in all directions it is a sphere. but the universe is proven to be flat
He might actually be an interdenominational time traveler
Okay I had to give up halfway
through the video... I feel like
I'm losing braincells when I
hear john speak.
John is low info high confidence; ignorant & proud
The universe is flat. We've measured it.
Edit: I mean, there are Young Earth Creationists who do good science. That's about as far from denying the supernatural, as far from the stereotypical scientist-atheist as you can get.
John! Is a hammer the 'world view' of the carpenter?
Lmao... he says energy is matter, which is mass, then quotes E=MC squared, which differentiates between energy and mass. 😂
Ppl that believe in a God are in denial that they cannot prove a God exists
Time to ban John.
Now I know Matt is the necessary hothead.
3:00 - all cultures reference a supreme sky deity? Nah man. Earth as the supreme deity, the primordial chaos, chaos ocean deities like Tiamat, Zeus physically on Mt. Olympus, etc...
Even with conceiving of asupreme deity living in "the sky" or heaven, those supreme deities get killed, dethroned, suplanted within many cultures mythologies.
There is absolutely no consistent view across early or present cultures like you are claiming.
This call was a complete waste of two smart minds.
"Tell me of one group that doesn't have this belief. You can't use atheists."
Why not? The fact that atheist suggest puts a lie to your entire idea?
if he's trying to make a fool all he did was give the channel another 15k views idk kinda backfired my guy
Oh wow! Look at John go! So full of aggressive confidence in his incorrect understandings and his lack of knowledge in how Science is used to learn about things in the natural world, and then having the gall to tell actual scientists how they’re all wrong about various things and that he knows better! I’d bet that he’s even a nightmare for his medical doctors if he’s ever been ill or needing surgery!
He’s absolutely incapable of listening to what the two highly intelligent host scientists are saying to him, in their responses to his questions, failing at NOT interrupting them constantly, when they’ve taken their very valuable time to heroically persist in their attempts to explain things to the block head! He takes the information, that was clearly and concisely spoon fed to him, and then he completely misunderstands it all or doesn’t even hear it because he’s talking over them, like a pompous, arrogant tool, but he then goes to telling the two scientists (who are clearly much more knowledgeable than he is, probably about pretty much everything in life ) that they don’t know what they are talking about. His call was so irritating!
This is why people like John often don’t get ahead in life; in their jobs, relationships, science and world knowledge, communication skills, parenting skills, etc. He belligerently just asserts that anything that is said by others, that he wont listen to and therefore comprehend, is wrong. The massive chip on his shoulder, and his bewildering arrogance and ignorance, are weighing him down heavily.
John- intermediate time waster, not interdemential time traveler.
I made it about 10 minutes before his constant interrupting got too much.
I'll try again later
John is a typical troll who is probably a very lonely person who only rang in to talk to someone.
Is this the "atheist are oppressors" insane caller?
Science is a tool. So is John ;-
Guys you're great but you gotta be more firm with rude, dishonest callers such as this one.
Insane people everywhere …
Light expands in all directions from its source... this guy makes a whole lot of assumptions
Wow this John guy doesnt have a logical bone in his body. He just picks and chooses idead that fit his narrative, while ignoring the vast amount of evidence that contradicts it.
Not a bubble. More like a fart it’s a gas that disperses itself.
Does the visual presentation of the hosts annoy anyone besides me? Erika looks like she is sitting on the floor.
No chance in hell he's a Native American. He was just trying a new angle since the christian BS has gotten pretty old at this point.