I'm a psychotherapist. Explaining human behavior through how we got wired neurologically and biochemically based on what has happened in our past never fails. What happens during childhood hits people especially hard because of how we absorb everything so deeply during that time of explosive neurological development. I see my clients struggle to change, to unlearn old vicious cycles and learn new ways of being, the same way we learn a new language or how to drive a car. There is no metaphysical 'spark.' Hereditary disorders like psychosis also mess people up. There is no design.
Note to trolls: making claims is not sufficient. Making claims and then claiming that they stand by default because no one has refuted them to your personal satisfaction- also insufficient. No one is obligated to accept your claims or even enertain them seriously.
@@theepsteindiaries The only counter to bad/unethical/poorly implemented science is properly performed science, not voodoo. Why not bring up Unit 731 or the Tuskegee experiments instead? Far more people know about those, but they still wouldn't get you any closer to anything remotely religious.
My daughter is the result of a chemical-biolgical process and nothing else ... that does not change how much I love her, and i can say that looking to anybody's eyes.... There you go confused caller.
I am a parent. I know very well the love I feel for my children is nothing more than electro-chemical signals in my mind. That doesnt make it less special to me.
It's like saying a snowflake or a flower is less beautiful because we know how they get formed. There are things that are even more amazing when we understand the intricacies of what forms them. Understanding the Krebs cycle tells you how complex cellular metabolism is and how the cells in your bodies get energy from chemical stores.
I find it actually gives me way more responsibility to be an active part of any relationship. There is no "magic" no "destiny", that binds us or controls it. You have to do the work, to make your loved ones happy. You have to get the chemicals released, the neurons firing. You are in control of that.
The FLoBloJoKEBoi admitted that he ignores replies to his posts. He does that because he has no answers to any questions and only wants to preach bible verses. My advice is not to waste keystrokes on questions or rebuttals, but simply keep on piling on the mockery, ridicule, and contempt. And never let him forget that his only achievement to date has been his role in Denny's deconversion from doubting christian to 100% atheist.
My nomination for today's straw man award: tryme3969: "Atheists want to see an atheist world." Me: "That would be nice, yeah. What's your point?" tryme3969: "Thanks for finally admitting that there is a God." 👏🏆🍿
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Atheism is not an assertion. Someone can be both an atheist and an agnostic. An agnostic-atheist is someone who believes that whether or not a god exists is unknowable, but personally disbelieves in the idea of a god.
I get the impression from hearing people like this over the years that it's really a form of extreme arrogance. There appears to be an unspoken premise that life, and more specifically humans, are SO special that something completely inexplicable, with no tether to anything we understand about reality, must have created us. Many even go so far as to claim `in its image.` which is even more arrogant.
All the repeat theists who constantly post and troll on this channel; are you sure youre actually theists? Prove AXP isnt paying you to play devil's advocate in the comment section just to keep up activity on the video? Atheist people love to debate about religion and philosophy, so it would be a genius way to keep people commenting
I hate this argument and attitude like how it's "just" a chemical reaction, like it takes something away from it and minimises its meaning, just because it's not supernatural or divine. Just goes to show how little imagination some people have to think something like that, when in reality it doesn't take anything away from how miraculous and amazing life and the universe are and how it works, it makes it all the more wondrous and awesome the more we learn about it all!
This caller is full of it. He believes what he believes because that's what he wants to believe period. Evidence has nothing to do with it when it comes to him.
14:21 "No, atoms have no intelligence. They just do what they do because of the laws of physics." Minor nit, I suppose. I think I'd say "They just do what they do. They follow the laws of physics." or even "... the descriptive laws of physics."
Interesting how the spamming troll Flo never answers any of the questions or counterarguments put to him. I'm starting to understand how he got so comprehensively beaten in that live debate with QC - and why he's been dodging QC's invitations for a round two.
Don't waste your time trying to engage with the dishonest hypocrite. He is only here to preach bible babble and illogical pseudo scientific nonsense. Ridicule and contempt is all he deserves.
Poor old FloBloJoBoi has been reduced to labelling anybody who disagrees with him as idolising Mr quecee. Given the public flogging and humiliation that quecee dished out to the FloBloJoBoi I'd say it's a definite case of Stockholm Syndrome! LMFAO!!!
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED FloridaCharlatan, I don’t have your phone number, but I have been asking you to justify how you know god isn’t happy about his chosen people’s actions for months now. Still no reply. What are you frightened of?
Welp. I think the call was pretty much over when Jim asked the caller to provide evidence to support his claim of having a designer for the body. He seemed to be in a difficult position and was unable to back up anything that he said, including his initial statement. It was evident that despite his best efforts to redirect the conversation, he was unable to provide any substantial evidence to support his argument so...the search continues. One thing that I find slightly annoying is when the caller denies arguing for a particular point, but later it turns out that they did just that. While I understand that waiting on hold for a long time can be frustrating, dishonesty is not the way to go. The show hosts have heard almost every argument presented, and they are already at the finish line before you start the race. So, it's better to be honest and straightforward with your arguments instead of trying to mislead the show hosts.
God said you know he exists by what has been made; so much so, that you're "without excuse" to think otherwise: "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." - Romans 1:20 Creation and it's "design" by God is a scientific fact. You already know what a "design" is, but you want to act like it's a mystery. We know something is designed, due to it’s intelligent order, repetition, complexity, purpose AND the obvious fact that it didn’t arrive by chance, like a wind pattern in the sand or water waves on the beach. Only intelligence produces designed information, such as the high-complexity/high function DNA blueprint design of 9 million DIFFERENT animals, 300,000 DIFFERENT plants and the human being. I will also add that no design or creation is POSSIBLE via primitive nature (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). Atheism debunked. Low-complexity formations, such as crystals, snowflakes and wind patterns in the sand, cannot be grouped with high-complexity designed creations, such as the human being that has ALL the co-existent designed bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order not only in the human body, but in millions of different species on the earth. The reproducing human being is a trillion times more complex than a watch found on the beach. The digestive system is a CLEAR DESIGN that's seen in humans and in Millions of animals & sorry pal, but the digestive system didn't come from a moist rock or mud puddle or any other asinine atheist cause/nature/source you want to use. Your atheism and hope of a Godless reality is hereby totally debunked & it was just this easy. We can talk about evolution in the morning!!! LOL! I PREDICT THAT NEW ANATOMY WILL POP UP ON THE NEXT HUMAN CHILD! Tomorrow, I will take the tv news cameras into the maternity ward at my local hospital & show the world the NEW ANATOMY on the new born babies for the entire world to then see that EVOLUTION IS OBSERVABLE! TESTABLE! MEASURABLE! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVOLUTION is just as OBSERVABLE as the rest of NATURE! Flower bloom! Reproduction! Photosynthesis! Digestion! Respiration! Top down production! Gravity! Sunshine! Oh wait......................ok, I'm wrong.
. You seem like your sanity may have left you. You're just making the same unsubstantiated smug self satified claims most of monotheistic make. It's weird, so very weird. You're strong attached to storybook characters.
Did you see his post where he bragged that he has the knowledge, background, and experience to know what he's talking about? He went on for paragraphs boasting about his d!ck size. This paragon of wisdom displays comical lack of scientific knowledge and tragic lack of self awareness. He is truly batshit crazy.
Study shows people pointing out grammar & spelling mistakes are low IQ. True story. OTH.. Atheists have proven themselves the ignorant ones. Atheists now believe a mask can stop viral transmission, there are more than 2 genders, despite the very definition of the word..human life “doesn’t really” begin at conception, & cannot even define what a woman is. Atheists will do anything and everything they are told to believe, say, do, whatever. They are complete non-thinkers to the absolute extreme. Atheists are the IRL equivalent of a background character that exists with the seemingly singular purpose of just being there as a human canvas that reflects whatever popular ideology is currently prevalent in their culture / country. No matter how ridiculous it gets they just swallow the propaganda whole and roll with it.
@@paulk9188 NEPy CLAIMED he was a good writer and I called him out for it. Not all studies are accurate. Studies have shown that atheists are smarter. We don't believe ANY of what you said we believe. Stop spamming the comments section. You're worse than the UTTP.
a dizzying array of fallacies does not produce a god, even when combined with the fascinating phenomenon of 'personal experience' which it completely irrelevant to the truth of the claim. the waters for the caller become even murkier when he dares address scientific points to suggest his magical being.
Does God get angry with the wicked every day, like what a Christian spouting bible verses would have you believe? How about this scripture? "...what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder." The Simpsons S4:03
I always found Gods gender interesting, as what does a universe creator need with a penis? And a good Wednesday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 🤠
@@Sundae_Times Just look up Poe's law. It just means that it is impossible to make nonsensical comments on the internet to make fun of certain groups because no matter how ridiculous the statement, you can't distinguish it from actually sincere statements that this group would make. So "Luke" might be someone trying to sound delusional to make Christians sound delusional, but there's not way to tell for sure.
@@Sundae_Times BTW, I think it's best to leave him alone as I think that there are issues that's causing him to make the kinds of posts that he's making. He's made posts that seem to indicate that he's having some challenges. It's possible that he's lying about those other things, but regardless, it's probably best to ignore him.
I think is pretty fair to say we can desqualify any theistic claim about personal experience and affirm therefore they know god, since NO theist ever affirms there is a god but they do not agree with his morality and will not follow what that god says, in other words what I'm saying is that since no religious person claiming to know god ever claim to also be antitheist I can easily assume theists are just subjugated by what they have been taught since a young age. Bring me theist who also claims to be antitheist and that would be more convincing than any other theist claim ever.
If you're looking for a convincing theist on these pages, avoid like the plague the ones who attempt to use scientific arguments. And for Christ's sake, don't get them started on evolution - their ignorance is painful 🥴
@@nealjroberts4050 I'm not making a definition, but a scenario that would give some value to a theist claim (of course it would not ever count as evidence and it would not ever convince me without proof) but it would at least be worthed to hear from such a person than from any of the other brainless preachers. I'm talking more about those people who claim a very specific god and think they know the "name" of that god so great focus on abrahamic mythology theists
The usual debunked arguments: Fine Tuning Argument - no constants have been demonstrated to be tuned. Anthropic/puddle reasoning (distinct from FTA) - relies on assuming that things are noticeably existent because they were intended to be rather than because they exist and were noticed. KCA - relies on special pleading a particular something from nothing Contingency - relies on special pleading that contingency exists Design - relies on comparing known human design with known lack of design then assuming everything unknown is designed. Irreducible Complexity - still not demonstrated to exist Objective Moral Values - still not demonstrated ontologically (Edit: spaced out each one so noone gets confused between eg FTA and the puddle arguments)
@@nealjroberts4050 1/ Could you maybe tell me which atheist 'trolls' specifically are you referring to? You didn't say. 2/ Who are the atheists who have used your list of debunked arguments for gods to prove that no gods exist. 3/ Are some specific god or gods exempt from your arguments in some way?
@@niblick616 1) It applies to anyone. No belief or disbelief in gods required in order to use these faulty arguments 2) Please see 1 3) Please see 1 Note that anyone trying to misrepresent my OP as somehow exempting my own beliefs would be dishonest since I've pointed out they're faulty arguments.
@@nealjroberts4050 1/ If you meant to refer to 'anybody', why not use the word 'anybody' instead the phrase "...atheist trolls..."? 2/ Please see my item 1 3/ Please see my item 1. 4/ Was 'anyone' specific trying to misrepresent your OP as somehow exempting your own beliefs? If not, why bring it up? 5/ Have you any actual evidence of somebody actually trying to misrepresent any of your beliefs about anything?
The callers beliefs are simply incompatible with reason. He will never understand because to do so would be to abandon his cherished belief system. Institutionalised ignorance = religion.
STOP with the stupidity already. Atheism is a religion. A religion of “SELF.” Instead of properly worshipping God and putting him first in your life; YOU PUT YOURSELF FIRST. EVERYBODY HAS A FAITH. It’s just that your faith is stupid. Atheism tenets (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) I debunk w/ ease. Any belief re the cause of this universe is a religion and you've tagged yourself an "atheist" because you believe atheist ideas re the cause of this universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy. You also believe that evolution is the "controlling power" over life, instead of God. THAT is religion. Either you have a RATIONAL POSSIBLE world view or you don't. To be an atheist and have no factual basis for your cult, is to be content to be even more lost and clueless than yesterday. Why do you cling so desperately to an asinine atheist cult that's INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS? Could you be more lost and clueless? Einstein called atheism "a religion formed to reject other religions. How cute and desperate they are." I know it hurts to know that the most famous and respected scientist of our generation believed atheists to be pathetic idiots LOL
Can the Bible-thumpers who come here please please please, for the love of Christ, stop attempting to talk about evolution! There is only so much ignorance, idiocy and fundamentally flawed logic a guy can take 😭
If they could at the very least understand the difference between evolution and abiogenesis, that should be the basic. And if they can tell the difference with the big bang, that would be a big bonus.
I debunked evolution 50 yrs ago, kid. And others debunked evolution 100 yrs before I did, but "I can't fix stupid." ALL ANATOMY of any human offspring has been IDENTICAL to it's ancestry of +/- 180 generations; all the way back to Adam & Eve. 2 ears, 2 eyes, one nose, 2 legs, 2 arms. You get the point. VARIATION of that anatomy is NOT evolution; only NEW ANATOMY is evolution, such as a one-celled animal transitioning via NEW ANATOMY into a whale, mosquito and pine tree - as depicted in “The Tree of Life,” which is IMPOSSIBLE to happen, as I have proved. NATURE NEVER PRODUCES ANYTHING NEW! TRY TO LEARN. Evolution is ALSO debunked by the SCIENTIFIC STANDARDS of testing, measuring and observing (scientific method): Can you TEST evolution and MEASURE the amount of evolution OBSERVED NO! Therefore, evolution is not “SCIENCE” at all. DO NOT EVER TELL ME that you can measure evolution by COMPARING fossils! Atheists finding some extinct animal, saying it’s “TRANSITIONAL” and placing it in some assumed pattern and calling such a fact for evolution, is not science whatsoever, but SPECULATIVE ASSUMPTION, which is all atheism really is! You have to BELIEVE in evolution and the rest of the ideas of The Doctrine of Demons/atheism (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy), because nobody has ever seen ANY OF IT. Yet TRUE NATURE (e.g. gravity, flower bloom, reproduction, sunshine) is readily observed in every moment of every day. Evolution debunked. IF you're actually going to base your Godless faith on a Godless world, because THEN, you have to believe that a BIG BANG happened without a cause/source of time/space/matter/energy, because the BIG BANG produced time/space/matter/energy, which is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE, but atheists have no problem with IMPOSSIBILITY, as I'll further prove: So something besides time/space/matter/energy produced time/space/matter/energy at the BIG BANG and a rock came from that BIG BANG and got cooled off by rain to produce a MINDLESS, NON-PURPOSEFUL SOUP that produced a FIRST CELL. Now I don't know of any mud puddle in earth's history producing LIFE or a living FIRST CELL, but this is what you toons believe; A ROCK DID IT! LOL So this FIRST CELL, of course, had within it the systems to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe and reproduce. It also had the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT animals, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants, because a NEVER OBSERVED MINDLES PROCESS CALLED "EVOLUTION" DIVERSIFIED the content of this FIRST CELL into the animals, plants & humans we observe today. Of course that FIRST CELL had to find a girlfriend, date, marry and have kids, but it got the mud puddles permission :)
It does beg the question how do these people even think at all. The whole discovery of evolution wasn't even considered possible until Darwin who was an explorer literally a millenium after this so called book was written. The people of this time period of this bible had no knowledge at all of a vast majority of things we know today. So exactly how on earth do these callers completely dismiss the age of this book and all the history of discovery after this book. What did none of these new findings ever happen? Then how did we even end up with technology today.
X-ray crystallography has been used to determine the structure of DNA. That involved a lot of interpolation, but yes, we can "see" DNA. Lately the electron microscope has been able to image DNA. It provides a much more detailed picture of DNA. It turns out that it fully supports the data from X-ray crystallography. So we know exactly what DNA is made of , what it looks like, and how it functions. And if you are wondering what the code is, DDG "RNA code map". And each cell, before mitosis, makes a copy of its DNA from material within the cell. It does it on its own, completely naturally, with no "higher power" in evidence. And that happens a few billion times a day in you own body.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Meanwhile in the real world: Nothing of the gibberish nonsense you just wrote has to do with atheism. Evolution and big bang cosmology are SCIENTIFIC theories based on all the evidence we have and contradicted by nothing. You would be rich and famous if you could present even a single error in any scientific theory, and the only result would be that after that we would have an even more accurate scientific theory. It is a self-correcting system, always based on the best available data. We atheists are atheists for probably the same reasons why you do not believe in all the millions of other gods, we just make no exceptions for the one god who is most famous in the time and country we are born in.
@@hitman5782 MINDLESS Evolution? It’s a proven farce. From an epistemological standpoint evolution is not observed, so it can’t be counted as truth and therefore, can’t be considered knowledge. You have to prove evolution happened, not what you think it looks like. You think speculative assumptions are better the records of observation? Because observation reveals that there is ZERO evidence of “transition” in all fossils and living species - no new anatomy differing from ancestry PERIOD. Evolution is proven delusion; garbage. NEVER has nature produced any new information/gain of complexity/evolution/new anatomy/big bang/abiogenesis and you certainly can't demonstrate any of it. Oh btw, if you don’t believe a mindless non-intelligent process (evolution) can do anything of complexity, jerk out your brain and make me a ham sandwich. Let’s see how far you get ;) SCIENTIFICALLY OBSERVED NOW (in REAL TIME) means that your sample is OBSERVED exactly like sunshine is OBSERVED or exactly like reproduction is OBSERVED or exactly like photosynthesis is OBSERVED or exactly like digestion is OBSERVED or exactly like respiration is OBSERVED or exactly like top down production is OBSERVED or exactly like gravity is OBSERVED; thus, all the idea of Atheism are not OBSERVED (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution); therefore, all of that GARBAGE is simply atheist NONSENSE. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Repeat after me: abiogenesis and evolution can explain existence of life and speciation as we know it. Evolution is one of the most proven scientific theory in the history, abiogenesis was proven as viable and totally possible origin of life on early Earth. We have REAL POSSIBLE WAY HOW LIFE EMERGED ON EARTH COMPLETELY NATURALLY.
@@owersmenblortsmon4731 Repeat after me: abiogenesis and evolution can explain existence of life and speciation as we know it. Evolution is one of the most proven scientific theory in the history, abiogenesis was proven as viable and totally possible origin of life on early Earth. We have REAL POSSIBLE WAY HOW LIFE EMERGED ON EARTH COMPLETELY NATURALLY.
@@owersmenblortsmon4731 Repeat after me: we have NO EVIDENCE about any of more than 3000 gods. Every religion survive only through ABUSING OF CHILDREN with brainwashing and theistic indoctrinaction. Every religion is cult based on dogma.
Purely personal experience can not be a determining factor in determining what is real. Pay attention - NOT REAL - why even go on from there? Also, we are one story loving species, walk in to any library in the world and look at the size of the fiction section. Hearsay as the only basis of evidence is a terrible form of evidence.
@@wwlib5390 Since when did more than personal experience matter to you? You've said on several occasions that personal experience is the only bar of evidence that matters to you.
@@nealjroberts4050 I am not a nihilist, I accept there are other real minds than mine and they can corroborate the veracity of objective phenomena. You have me confused with somebody else.
Frankly I think Armin was pretty uncharitable to Josef. Surely he had read some rehash of a Michael Behe's bullshit about DNA and at the time he thought its was a good argument. His admitting he did not recall the details, may have not fully understood them, and would rather not attempt to spout them from memory is admirable. Furthermore he said he'd try to look back into them and get back to them. I'd rather have honest callers like that rather than "I once read an article by the smartest of all super scientists that said DNA proves god and now I too am an expert on this and can also make this claim". Armin couldnt get off a super literal misunderstanding of what Josef was saying and move on to discussing what he was clearly implying.
I just figured out why "God" isn't doing things in this world any more. For every new child born "God" needs to create a soul. There are so many children being born that "God" is too busy making souls to do anything else.
Yep. It's really fun to hear theists just make a claim that their god is eternal and think they provided incontrovertible evidence for God. It's almost worse than offering Bible verses.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Ok, here is what you have to do when you do not want people to think that you are a completely useless moron who has absolutely zero idea of what he is talking about: 1) Demonstrate that the universe is finite. 2) Demonstrate an "infinite cause", or at least demonstrate that such a thing is even possible and how that works. 3) Demonstrate which of the countless gods worldwide this should have been. Sounds fair?
@Hln20015 Claiming that anything scientific has a transcendent intelligence to it doesn't make that claim scientific. You need evidence of the transcendental intelligence and its connection.
I disagree with Jim's assessment that you have to prove that a designer exists before you prove that something was designed. If somehow, you were able to prove that an item was designed, you would be proving that there was a designer. The existence of the designer is then derived from the first conclusion, not a prerequisite. I don't believe in god, btw, this is about the validity of the argument presented.
No, you are wrong, because you can't prove it this way. It would still be a claim. And you can't use the claim to prove itself. That is circular. The claim is, X is designed. How would know it is designed? Because it looks so? Nope. First you have to specify a designer, and then you have to proof that the desinger exist, or you couldn't exclude a natural cause! As long as you can't exclude a natural cause, you can't use X to conclude there is a designer! And you can only exclude a natural cause if you have a designer first! Sorry!
@@holgerlubotzki3469 You are fixated in the wording rather than in the argument. Let me rephrase it. If you find evidence of design in an item, you have evidence of a designer. As a designed item needs a designer.
The problem is evidencing design. What you can't do is go "this thing looks similar to things humans make therefore it must be designed" as that creates an assumption of design. You have to show a feature was caused by an intentful agent. It's why archaeologists often have problems showing that something is a tool or piece of art. Creationists don't seem to understand that however. They think because DNA is similar to human codes it MUST be designed despite the whole system showing artefacts of natural evolutionary development.
@@tornaperinso1484 "If you find evidence of design in an item, you have evidence of a designer. As a designed item needs a designer." Nope! Wrong! The only evidence of a desinger that works, IS THE DESIGNER. Look at Giant's Causeway, it looks designed. But it isn't. To make it clear: If it looks designed, it can either be designed or not designed (natural). If it looks natural, it can either be natural or not be natural (designed). In both cases, only a positive proof can settle this, either you find a natural cause or the designer. The only one here that missuses semantics, is you!
- as to meaning and defining the actual blood of Christ that so to the DNA of God that has been she'd (?) -she'd`d´ing as to the representation of two :and not actual bloodshed as to the representation of this (?)
@@joshsheridan9511 I wish my atheist community would recognize this… the one thing they keep saying about god being real because they believe it is. It’s a cognitive dissonance that I need them to recognize and stop being just “not Christian”… Refute the argument… bet you can’t
Well, it's mostly for the hosts and comments to know how the caller likes to be referred to as. They could guess, but maybe the caller doesn't fit neatly into the category we'd assign them. Just takes any incorrect guesswork out of it.
@@andrewpagan5087 FOH with this BS. HOW ABOUT THEIR NAME? Some people in power DECIDED to make "gender a social construct" without any supporting evidence to do so, and now people want to REQUIRE others to use certain speech. FOH.
When you look at a basic fishbowl you know that someone did the following. 1. Put dirt or sand in it. 2. Filled it with water. 3. Filled it with plants. 4. Put a light above it. 5. Put some fish/turtles or frog in it. When you see this on a planetary scale you say it just "happened" or it "evolved" that way. Only this fishbowl contains tens of thousands of plants, animals, and a enormous light that keeps it alive. Does that make logical sense?
@@queuecee I am talking about the earth. Again, you avoid answering anything. Using the common smug atheist response and thinking it's some sort of explanation. It's not.
Genomes of animals were written by a genius. Nobody can take a pen and paper and think up and write down a sequence of A's, C's, T's, and G's that will create an animal.
How is it "written"? We see it changing constantly. There is no single "human" genome. For each complete sequence, it's just a snapshot. And that's why every individual is a transitional individual of their species. So when a Christian claims that Adam and Eve had a "perfect" human genome without any "mutations", it is nonsensical. And demonstrates that person is just ignorant of genetics.
I think I heard that the gents who run this channel are former Christians? I assume their story is the same as many others on the net and it goes something like this. "I was a Christian for XX years and then had an awakening and realized it was false." Question: So you're admitting you were dead wrong for many years but now you're right????? At this point your track record is pretty bad right? Maybe you're wrong again???????
Christian: "You are admitting, you were wrong!!!" Atheist:"Yes, I was fed lies for many years and now I know better." Christian:"Looool, you admited being wrong and changed!!!" Atheist:"Yes, we learn from our mistakes, you would never admit being wrong and change, wouldn't you?" Christian:"Nooooo! Never!!!!" You are not very bright aren't you?😂
"Question: So you're admitting you were dead wrong for many years but now you're right????? At this point your track record is pretty bad right? Maybe you're wrong again???????" Do you ask that same question to people who've converted _to_ Christianity? 🤔
@@nealjroberts4050 cool. You made your choice. That’s on YOU. Time to stop crying in the comments section & take responsibility for once in your life. Then again, you can sit around all day & rack up 100+ comments on every YT video this channel puts out & keep lying to yourself. I can’t imagine what you people are like in real life that sit around all day commenting on YT. Just lol.
@@paulk9188 and that is narcissistic how? I don't see why you, a Christian, should have a problem with it. Your God is the biggest narcissist in the universe. It takes a special kind of narcissist to threaten eternal torture if people dont worship and love said god
Atheism is one of the oldest beliefs dating back in the ancient world BC, and it was at its peak in popularity percentagewise back then... until the arrival of the Risen Lord Savior Jesus Christ... ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly... Romans 5:6
Repeat after me: atheism is not cult, it's not religion, it's not worldview, it's just simple statement "I don't believe in gods". Everyone who says otherwise is brainwashed ignorant tool.
We are still waiting for you to provide some good verifiable evidence that you are right about your g0d and that one billion Hindus are wrong about theirs. What's the hold up?
Yeah but what if it's Islam that was right and the Christians were wrong? Over a billion Muslims would disagree with you about Jesus Christ being a god
I'm a psychotherapist. Explaining human behavior through how we got wired neurologically and biochemically based on what has happened in our past never fails. What happens during childhood hits people especially hard because of how we absorb everything so deeply during that time of explosive neurological development. I see my clients struggle to change, to unlearn old vicious cycles and learn new ways of being, the same way we learn a new language or how to drive a car. There is no metaphysical 'spark.' Hereditary disorders like psychosis also mess people up. There is no design.
"I'm not making an argument from design, now look at a child's eyes"
Note to trolls: making claims is not sufficient. Making claims and then claiming that they stand by default because no one has refuted them to your personal satisfaction- also insufficient. No one is obligated to accept your claims or even enertain them seriously.
@@theepsteindiaries What on Earth are you on about, troll?
@@theepsteindiaries The only counter to bad/unethical/poorly implemented science is properly performed science, not voodoo. Why not bring up Unit 731 or the Tuskegee experiments instead? Far more people know about those, but they still wouldn't get you any closer to anything remotely religious.
@@theepsteindiaries What the devil are you on about?
@@theepsteindiaries Well, that's nice. It's still irrelevant to the OP.
@@theepsteindiaries well... op called for trolls and trolls he got ^^ i mean fair enough.
This is the modern argument for: - I don't know how lightning happens, so it must be Thor being angry !!!
Yep, pretty much.
I agree, except that it isn't a modern argument imho.
@@landsgevaer 😂indeed... I just called it modern, because it's still in use on these present days...
Yes. And back then, when we did not know - was it Thor then? Or did we just not know yet?
@@atalantamountain Of course it wasn't Thor neither any god... But it shows exactly where this kind of ideas (god of gaps) takes us: - To delusion...
I saw gods DNA in my toilet this morning, then flushed it. Proof of god.
That was some holy shit!
My daughter is the result of a chemical-biolgical process and nothing else ... that does not change how much I love her, and i can say that looking to anybody's eyes.... There you go confused caller.
I am a parent. I know very well the love I feel for my children is nothing more than electro-chemical signals in my mind. That doesnt make it less special to me.
It's like saying a snowflake or a flower is less beautiful because we know how they get formed. There are things that are even more amazing when we understand the intricacies of what forms them. Understanding the Krebs cycle tells you how complex cellular metabolism is and how the cells in your bodies get energy from chemical stores.
I find it actually gives me way more responsibility to be an active part of any relationship. There is no "magic" no "destiny", that binds us or controls it.
You have to do the work, to make your loved ones happy. You have to get the chemicals released, the neurons firing.
You are in control of that.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 try again. Its because the biocomputer is not working. Try plugging your new microphone into a broken computer.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 You didn't debunk anything except for your own God when your prophecy failed. Or did you forget that? Because I didn't.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457
The ego you have despite looking ridiculous for the last five years is impressive.
The FLoBloJoKEBoi admitted that he ignores replies to his posts. He does that because he has no answers to any questions and only wants to preach bible verses.
My advice is not to waste keystrokes on questions or rebuttals, but simply keep on piling on the mockery, ridicule, and contempt.
And never let him forget that his only achievement to date has been his role in Denny's deconversion from doubting christian to 100% atheist.
My nomination for today's straw man award:
tryme3969: "Atheists want to see an atheist world."
Me: "That would be nice, yeah. What's your point?"
tryme3969: "Thanks for finally admitting that there is a God."
👏🏆🍿
Wow, that f**ker is too stupid to be outside of a padded cell...
Tryme should TryHarder.
@@tonyclements1147 I agree.
Yep. The only reason that I'm an atheist is because there haven't been enough RUclips comments with bible verses.
Well, stick around and you'll be a convert by midnight. These guys are sooo compelling 😂
You know what else there isn't enough of on here? Christians calling atheists paedophiles for no apparent reason.
Oh, hold on...
The reason I am atheist wrt the tribal war g0d of Abraham is because there has already been way too many RUclips comments with bible verses.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Atheism is not an assertion. Someone can be both an atheist and an agnostic. An agnostic-atheist is someone who believes that whether or not a god exists is unknowable, but personally disbelieves in the idea of a god.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Nice straw man 🤦♂
I get the impression from hearing people like this over the years that it's really a form of extreme arrogance. There appears to be an unspoken premise that life, and more specifically humans, are SO special that something completely inexplicable, with no tether to anything we understand about reality, must have created us. Many even go so far as to claim `in its image.` which is even more arrogant.
All the repeat theists who constantly post and troll on this channel; are you sure youre actually theists? Prove AXP isnt paying you to play devil's advocate in the comment section just to keep up activity on the video? Atheist people love to debate about religion and philosophy, so it would be a genius way to keep people commenting
Lmao.
Oh ffs.
Fascinating.
**raises one eyebrow**
🖖
When is Flojo going to shut up? In his own words, no matter what the argument, we won't listen.
I haven't read any new comment of his yesterday, for a moment I thought he got raptured. I was too optimistic.
Flojo has been programmed to spout his nonsense at every opportunity
@@sideboob6851
It's possible they were incommunicado due to part of their basic police training in Florida. Assuming that claim is true of course.
I hate this argument and attitude like how it's "just" a chemical reaction, like it takes something away from it and minimises its meaning, just because it's not supernatural or divine. Just goes to show how little imagination some people have to think something like that, when in reality it doesn't take anything away from how miraculous and amazing life and the universe are and how it works, it makes it all the more wondrous and awesome the more we learn about it all!
This caller is full of it. He believes what he believes because that's what he wants to believe period. Evidence has nothing to do with it when it comes to him.
14:21 "No, atoms have no intelligence. They just do what they do because of the laws of physics."
Minor nit, I suppose. I think I'd say "They just do what they do. They follow the laws of physics." or even "... the descriptive laws of physics."
"Why do you think they think the things they think?"
They're all different degrees of delusional.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 you just can't accept reality.
Interesting how the spamming troll Flo never answers any of the questions or counterarguments put to him. I'm starting to understand how he got so comprehensively beaten in that live debate with QC - and why he's been dodging QC's invitations for a round two.
Don't waste your time trying to engage with the dishonest hypocrite. He is only here to preach bible babble and illogical pseudo scientific nonsense.
Ridicule and contempt is all he deserves.
Poor old FloBloJoBoi has been reduced to labelling anybody who disagrees with him as idolising Mr quecee. Given the public flogging and humiliation that quecee dished out to the FloBloJoBoi I'd say it's a definite case of Stockholm Syndrome!
LMFAO!!!
😂🤦♂️
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED
FloridaCharlatan, I don’t have your phone number, but I have been asking you to justify how you know god isn’t happy about his chosen people’s actions for months now. Still no reply. What are you frightened of?
He doesn't answer because he can't and he knows it
He's just another wannabe preacher who thinks no answers in genesis is a science show.
Welp. I think the call was pretty much over when Jim asked the caller to provide evidence to support his claim of having a designer for the body. He seemed to be in a difficult position and was unable to back up anything that he said, including his initial statement. It was evident that despite his best efforts to redirect the conversation, he was unable to provide any substantial evidence to support his argument so...the search continues.
One thing that I find slightly annoying is when the caller denies arguing for a particular point, but later it turns out that they did just that. While I understand that waiting on hold for a long time can be frustrating, dishonesty is not the way to go. The show hosts have heard almost every argument presented, and they are already at the finish line before you start the race. So, it's better to be honest and straightforward with your arguments instead of trying to mislead the show hosts.
Better still why was god not a woman ❤
God said you know he exists by what has been made; so much so, that you're "without excuse" to think otherwise:
"For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." - Romans 1:20
Creation and it's "design" by God is a scientific fact. You already know what a "design" is, but you want to act like it's a mystery. We know something is designed, due to it’s intelligent order, repetition, complexity, purpose AND the obvious fact that it didn’t arrive by chance, like a wind pattern in the sand or water waves on the beach. Only intelligence produces designed information, such as the high-complexity/high function DNA blueprint design of 9 million DIFFERENT animals, 300,000 DIFFERENT plants and the human being. I will also add that no design or creation is POSSIBLE via primitive nature (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). Atheism debunked.
Low-complexity formations, such as crystals, snowflakes and wind patterns in the sand, cannot be grouped with high-complexity designed creations, such as the human being that has ALL the co-existent designed bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order not only in the human body, but in millions of different species on the earth. The reproducing human being is a trillion times more complex than a watch found on the beach.
The digestive system is a CLEAR DESIGN that's seen in humans and in Millions of animals & sorry pal, but the digestive system didn't come from a moist rock or mud puddle or any other asinine atheist cause/nature/source you want to use. Your atheism and hope of a Godless reality is hereby totally debunked & it was just this easy.
We can talk about evolution in the morning!!! LOL! I PREDICT THAT NEW ANATOMY WILL POP UP ON THE NEXT HUMAN CHILD! Tomorrow, I will take the tv news cameras into the maternity ward at my local hospital & show the world the NEW ANATOMY on the new born babies for the entire world to then see that EVOLUTION IS OBSERVABLE! TESTABLE! MEASURABLE! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVOLUTION is just as OBSERVABLE as the rest of NATURE! Flower bloom! Reproduction! Photosynthesis! Digestion! Respiration! Top down production! Gravity! Sunshine! Oh wait......................ok, I'm wrong.
. You seem like your sanity may have left you. You're just making the same unsubstantiated smug self satified claims most of monotheistic make. It's weird, so very weird. You're strong attached to storybook characters.
@@owersmenblortsmon4731 The same god that created cancer in innocent children?
@@spookyariel1
He’s strongly attached to the copy paste he’s been using for six years now as well.
NEPy deleted his post of me calling him out for making spelling mistakes while simultaneously claiming to be a good writer.
It's also hilarious that he claims he's a better writer than I am. The most important thing a writer can learn is how to accept criticism.
Did you see his post where he bragged that he has the knowledge, background, and experience to know what he's talking about? He went on for paragraphs boasting about his d!ck size.
This paragon of wisdom displays comical lack of scientific knowledge and tragic lack of self awareness. He is truly batshit crazy.
NEP isn’t a writer, he’s a copy paster.
Study shows people pointing out grammar & spelling mistakes are low IQ. True story.
OTH.. Atheists have proven themselves the ignorant ones. Atheists now believe a mask can stop viral transmission, there are more than 2 genders, despite the very definition of the word..human life “doesn’t really” begin at conception, & cannot even define what a woman is.
Atheists will do anything and everything they are told to believe, say, do, whatever. They are complete non-thinkers to the absolute extreme. Atheists are the IRL equivalent of a background character that exists with the seemingly singular purpose of just being there as a human canvas that reflects whatever popular ideology is currently prevalent in their culture / country. No matter how ridiculous it gets they just swallow the propaganda whole and roll with it.
@@paulk9188 NEPy CLAIMED he was a good writer and I called him out for it. Not all studies are accurate. Studies have shown that atheists are smarter. We don't believe ANY of what you said we believe. Stop spamming the comments section. You're worse than the UTTP.
a dizzying array of fallacies does not produce a god, even when combined with the fascinating phenomenon of 'personal experience' which it completely irrelevant to the truth of the claim. the waters for the caller become even murkier when he dares address scientific points to suggest his magical being.
Does God get angry with the wicked every day, like what a Christian spouting bible verses would have you believe?
How about this scripture?
"...what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder."
The Simpsons S4:03
Homer could teach creationists a thing or two
And I just realised how true and sad that is.
My body is clear evidence that this "designer god" should immediately be sacked.
- the song SMOKE ON THE WATER/Deep Purple
I always found Gods gender interesting, as what does a universe creator need with a penis?
And a good Wednesday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤
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Sometimes god just needs to swing his dick around I guess.
@georgeaguilar6996
The Bible also says humans were made according to God's image. Why does a spirit need arms, legs, a ❤️, 🧠, 🫁, 👀, 👄, etc...?
The God claim is definately man made . By man made I mean Man made.
God watches you poop. Think about that.
Why collect foreskins?
Very impressive that Jim snuck into the office in Suits to film this after hours
I'm now convinced that Shayla/Luke is a poe. He went too extreme in his last post for me to believe he's sincere.
Sorry, I've been avoiding asking because I didn't want to sound stupid but it's nagging on my brain now - what's a poe?
@@Sundae_Times Just look up Poe's law. It just means that it is impossible to make nonsensical comments on the internet to make fun of certain groups because no matter how ridiculous the statement, you can't distinguish it from actually sincere statements that this group would make.
So "Luke" might be someone trying to sound delusional to make Christians sound delusional, but there's not way to tell for sure.
@@Sundae_Times BTW, I think it's best to leave him alone as I think that there are issues that's causing him to make the kinds of posts that he's making. He's made posts that seem to indicate that he's having some challenges.
It's possible that he's lying about those other things, but regardless, it's probably best to ignore him.
I think is pretty fair to say we can desqualify any theistic claim about personal experience and affirm therefore they know god, since NO theist ever affirms there is a god but they do not agree with his morality and will not follow what that god says, in other words what I'm saying is that since no religious person claiming to know god ever claim to also be antitheist I can easily assume theists are just subjugated by what they have been taught since a young age.
Bring me theist who also claims to be antitheist and that would be more convincing than any other theist claim ever.
If you're looking for a convincing theist on these pages, avoid like the plague the ones who attempt to use scientific arguments. And for Christ's sake, don't get them started on evolution - their ignorance is painful 🥴
@@Sundae_Times I know we will not find it 😂
Agnostic theists are a thing, and you seem to be equating all theists with Abrahamics.
I'm an agnostic pantheist who's irreligious (anti-religious at times) and has scientific training. Do I count under your definition?
@@nealjroberts4050 I'm not making a definition, but a scenario that would give some value to a theist claim (of course it would not ever count as evidence and it would not ever convince me without proof) but it would at least be worthed to hear from such a person than from any of the other brainless preachers. I'm talking more about those people who claim a very specific god and think they know the "name" of that god so great focus on abrahamic mythology theists
The usual debunked arguments:
Fine Tuning Argument - no constants have been demonstrated to be tuned.
Anthropic/puddle reasoning (distinct from FTA) - relies on assuming that things are noticeably existent because they were intended to be rather than because they exist and were noticed.
KCA - relies on special pleading a particular something from nothing
Contingency - relies on special pleading that contingency exists
Design - relies on comparing known human design with known lack of design then assuming everything unknown is designed.
Irreducible Complexity - still not demonstrated to exist
Objective Moral Values - still not demonstrated ontologically
(Edit: spaced out each one so noone gets confused between eg FTA and the puddle arguments)
Do all those apply to pantheistic gods as well?
@@niblick616
Even applies to atheist trolls using them to claim no gods are possible.
@@nealjroberts4050
1/ Could you maybe tell me which atheist 'trolls' specifically are you referring to? You didn't say.
2/ Who are the atheists who have used your list of debunked arguments for gods to prove that no gods exist.
3/ Are some specific god or gods exempt from your arguments in some way?
@@niblick616
1) It applies to anyone. No belief or disbelief in gods required in order to use these faulty arguments
2) Please see 1
3) Please see 1
Note that anyone trying to misrepresent my OP as somehow exempting my own beliefs would be dishonest since I've pointed out they're faulty arguments.
@@nealjroberts4050
1/ If you meant to refer to 'anybody', why not use the word 'anybody' instead the phrase "...atheist trolls..."?
2/ Please see my item 1
3/ Please see my item 1.
4/ Was 'anyone' specific trying to misrepresent your OP as somehow exempting your own beliefs? If not, why bring it up?
5/ Have you any actual evidence of somebody actually trying to misrepresent any of your beliefs about anything?
The callers beliefs are simply incompatible with reason. He will never understand because to do so would be to abandon his cherished belief system. Institutionalised ignorance = religion.
STOP with the stupidity already. Atheism is a religion. A religion of “SELF.” Instead of properly worshipping God and putting him first in your life; YOU PUT YOURSELF FIRST.
EVERYBODY HAS A FAITH. It’s just that your faith is stupid. Atheism tenets (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) I debunk w/ ease. Any belief re the cause of this universe is a religion and you've tagged yourself an "atheist" because you believe atheist ideas re the cause of this universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy. You also believe that evolution is the "controlling power" over life, instead of God. THAT is religion.
Either you have a RATIONAL POSSIBLE world view or you don't. To be an atheist and have no factual basis for your cult, is to be content to be even more lost and clueless than yesterday.
Why do you cling so desperately to an asinine atheist cult that's INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS? Could you be more lost and clueless?
Einstein called atheism "a religion formed to reject other religions. How cute and desperate they are." I know it hurts to know that the most famous and respected scientist of our generation believed atheists to be pathetic idiots LOL
Religions require ignorance to be institutional because unfettered knowledge could debunk their assertions of knowledge.
The Michigan delegation elects to trade this guy
My man thinks he has a unique position that will surprise atheists. 😅
He reminds me of those "Atheism debunked in 1 minute" type videos 😆
@@Sundae_Times lol its crazy because he talks smack about anecdotes and then immediately devolves to anecdotes.
Can the Bible-thumpers who come here please please please, for the love of Christ, stop attempting to talk about evolution! There is only so much ignorance, idiocy and fundamentally flawed logic a guy can take 😭
If they could at the very least understand the difference between evolution and abiogenesis, that should be the basic. And if they can tell the difference with the big bang, that would be a big bonus.
I debunked evolution 50 yrs ago, kid. And others debunked evolution 100 yrs before I did, but "I can't fix stupid." ALL ANATOMY of any human offspring has been IDENTICAL to it's ancestry of +/- 180 generations; all the way back to Adam & Eve. 2 ears, 2 eyes, one nose, 2 legs, 2 arms. You get the point. VARIATION of that anatomy is NOT evolution; only NEW ANATOMY is evolution, such as a one-celled animal transitioning via NEW ANATOMY into a whale, mosquito and pine tree - as depicted in “The Tree of Life,” which is IMPOSSIBLE to happen, as I have proved. NATURE NEVER PRODUCES ANYTHING NEW! TRY TO LEARN.
Evolution is ALSO debunked by the SCIENTIFIC STANDARDS of testing, measuring and observing (scientific method): Can you TEST evolution and MEASURE the amount of evolution OBSERVED NO! Therefore, evolution is not “SCIENCE” at all. DO NOT EVER TELL ME that you can measure evolution by COMPARING fossils! Atheists finding some extinct animal, saying it’s “TRANSITIONAL” and placing it in some assumed pattern and calling such a fact for evolution, is not science whatsoever, but SPECULATIVE ASSUMPTION, which is all atheism really is!
You have to BELIEVE in evolution and the rest of the ideas of The Doctrine of Demons/atheism (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy), because nobody has ever seen ANY OF IT. Yet TRUE NATURE (e.g. gravity, flower bloom, reproduction, sunshine) is readily observed in every moment of every day. Evolution debunked.
IF you're actually going to base your Godless faith on a Godless world, because THEN, you have to believe that a BIG BANG happened without a cause/source of time/space/matter/energy, because the BIG BANG produced time/space/matter/energy, which is TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE, but atheists have no problem with IMPOSSIBILITY, as I'll further prove: So something besides time/space/matter/energy produced time/space/matter/energy at the BIG BANG and a rock came from that BIG BANG and got cooled off by rain to produce a MINDLESS, NON-PURPOSEFUL SOUP that produced a FIRST CELL. Now I don't know of any mud puddle in earth's history producing LIFE or a living FIRST CELL, but this is what you toons believe; A ROCK DID IT! LOL
So this FIRST CELL, of course, had within it the systems to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe and reproduce. It also had the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT animals, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants, because a NEVER OBSERVED MINDLES PROCESS CALLED "EVOLUTION" DIVERSIFIED the content of this FIRST CELL into the animals, plants & humans we observe today. Of course that FIRST CELL had to find a girlfriend, date, marry and have kids, but it got the mud puddles permission :)
If they could at least get the definitions right instead of creating strawmen.
In a hurry to weaponizing their ignorance
It does beg the question how do these people even think at all. The whole discovery of evolution wasn't even considered possible until Darwin who was an explorer literally a millenium after this so called book was written. The people of this time period of this bible had no knowledge at all of a vast majority of things we know today.
So exactly how on earth do these callers completely dismiss the age of this book and all the history of discovery after this book. What did none of these new findings ever happen? Then how did we even end up with technology today.
How bout I just make shit up and back it all up with arrogance and overconfidence.
Congratulations you just described your typical atheist
If you can get enough people to swallow it you can reach tax exempt status.
Pretty sure that’s the only reason most religions still exist.
@@paulk9188 Congratulations on amassing 8 subscribers in only 11 years. What's it like being such a major influencer?
@@paulk9188 What is "YOUR typical atheist"? 😀And how atypical atheist looks like?
@@Seticzech how many fedora hats do you own?
Has this guy called before??
probably
Yeah I believe so.
His voice is familiar..
What is the extra magical thing about the reproduction of E coli
X-ray crystallography has been used to determine the structure of DNA. That involved a lot of interpolation, but yes, we can "see" DNA. Lately the electron microscope has been able to image DNA. It provides a much more detailed picture of DNA. It turns out that it fully supports the data from X-ray crystallography. So we know exactly what DNA is made of , what it looks like, and how it functions. And if you are wondering what the code is, DDG "RNA code map".
And each cell, before mitosis, makes a copy of its DNA from material within the cell. It does it on its own, completely naturally, with no "higher power" in evidence. And that happens a few billion times a day in you own body.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Meanwhile in the real world: Nothing of the gibberish nonsense you just wrote has to do with atheism.
Evolution and big bang cosmology are SCIENTIFIC theories based on all the evidence we have and contradicted by nothing. You would be rich and famous if you could present even a single error in any scientific theory, and the only result would be that after that we would have an even more accurate scientific theory. It is a self-correcting system, always based on the best available data.
We atheists are atheists for probably the same reasons why you do not believe in all the millions of other gods, we just make no exceptions for the one god who is most famous in the time and country we are born in.
@@hitman5782 MINDLESS Evolution? It’s a proven farce. From an epistemological standpoint evolution is not observed, so it can’t be counted as truth and therefore, can’t be considered knowledge. You have to prove evolution happened, not what you think it looks like. You think speculative assumptions are better the records of observation? Because observation reveals that there is ZERO evidence of “transition” in all fossils and living species - no new anatomy differing from ancestry PERIOD. Evolution is proven delusion; garbage.
NEVER has nature produced any new information/gain of complexity/evolution/new anatomy/big bang/abiogenesis and you certainly can't demonstrate any of it. Oh btw, if you don’t believe a mindless non-intelligent process (evolution) can do anything of complexity, jerk out your brain and make me a ham sandwich. Let’s see how far you get ;)
SCIENTIFICALLY OBSERVED NOW (in REAL TIME) means that your sample is OBSERVED exactly like sunshine is OBSERVED or exactly like reproduction is OBSERVED or exactly like photosynthesis is OBSERVED or exactly like digestion is OBSERVED or exactly like respiration is OBSERVED or exactly like top down production is OBSERVED or exactly like gravity is OBSERVED; thus, all the idea of Atheism are not OBSERVED (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution); therefore, all of that GARBAGE is simply atheist NONSENSE.
Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Repeat after me: abiogenesis and evolution can explain existence of life and speciation as we know it. Evolution is one of the most proven scientific theory in the history, abiogenesis was proven as viable and totally possible origin of life on early Earth. We have REAL POSSIBLE WAY HOW LIFE EMERGED ON EARTH COMPLETELY NATURALLY.
@@owersmenblortsmon4731 Repeat after me: abiogenesis and evolution can explain existence of life and speciation as we know it. Evolution is one of the most proven scientific theory in the history, abiogenesis was proven as viable and totally possible origin of life on early Earth. We have REAL POSSIBLE WAY HOW LIFE EMERGED ON EARTH COMPLETELY NATURALLY.
@@owersmenblortsmon4731 Repeat after me: we have NO EVIDENCE about any of more than 3000 gods. Every religion survive only through ABUSING OF CHILDREN with brainwashing and theistic indoctrinaction. Every religion is cult based on dogma.
I get into more details about the DNA um
Yeah yeah
It’s always sad when the cult script shuts down the theist’s thought process.
Why can't the people on these calls ever answer a direct question?
Reminds me of most of the theists who post on here!
Basically answering it would undermine their argument 🤷
Because answers are incompatible with their beliefs. 🙂
Because they come to preach and have zero answers
Purely personal experience can not be a determining factor in determining what is real. Pay attention - NOT REAL - why even go on from there?
Also, we are one story loving species, walk in to any library in the world and look at the size of the fiction section. Hearsay as the only basis of evidence is a terrible form of evidence.
@phrozenwun Have you other than personal experience for why you have concluded that there is no God?
@@wwlib5390 Yes.
@@wwlib5390
Since when did more than personal experience matter to you? You've said on several occasions that personal experience is the only bar of evidence that matters to you.
@@nealjroberts4050 I am not a nihilist, I accept there are other real minds than mine and they can corroborate the veracity of objective phenomena. You have me confused with somebody else.
@@phrozenwun Unfortunately you didn't notice my comment was directed at another poster
He's talking about looking into the eyes nothing has more soulful eyes than a cow perhaps that's why people in India worship the cow
They don't
Frankly I think Armin was pretty uncharitable to Josef. Surely he had read some rehash of a Michael Behe's bullshit about DNA and at the time he thought its was a good argument. His admitting he did not recall the details, may have not fully understood them, and would rather not attempt to spout them from memory is admirable. Furthermore he said he'd try to look back into them and get back to them. I'd rather have honest callers like that rather than "I once read an article by the smartest of all super scientists that said DNA proves god and now I too am an expert on this and can also make this claim". Armin couldnt get off a super literal misunderstanding of what Josef was saying and move on to discussing what he was clearly implying.
If Eve existed (she didn't) and was made from Adam's rib, she would have been a clone of Adam, as would Cain and Abel etc!
I just figured out why "God" isn't doing things in this world any more. For every new child born "God" needs to create a soul. There are so many children being born that "God" is too busy making souls to do anything else.
Fun fact: there are _no_ arguments for God.
Yep. It's really fun to hear theists just make a claim that their god is eternal and think they provided incontrovertible evidence for God.
It's almost worse than offering Bible verses.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Ok, here is what you have to do when you do not want people to think that you are a completely useless moron who has absolutely zero idea of what he is talking about:
1) Demonstrate that the universe is finite.
2) Demonstrate an "infinite cause", or at least demonstrate that such a thing is even possible and how that works.
3) Demonstrate which of the countless gods worldwide this should have been.
Sounds fair?
@Hln20015 Blah blah blah 🥱😴
@Hln20015
Claiming that anything scientific has a transcendent intelligence to it doesn't make that claim scientific.
You need evidence of the transcendental intelligence and its connection.
Correction: There are no *good* arguments for God. 😁
He says "exPUriences" 😭
Typical theist😶🌫️
I disagree with Jim's assessment that you have to prove that a designer exists before you prove that something was designed.
If somehow, you were able to prove that an item was designed, you would be proving that there was a designer. The existence of the designer is then derived from the first conclusion, not a prerequisite.
I don't believe in god, btw, this is about the validity of the argument presented.
No, you are wrong, because you can't prove it this way. It would still be a claim.
And you can't use the claim to prove itself. That is circular.
The claim is, X is designed.
How would know it is designed? Because it looks so? Nope.
First you have to specify a designer, and then you have to proof that the desinger exist, or you couldn't exclude a natural cause!
As long as you can't exclude a natural cause, you can't use X to conclude there is a designer!
And you can only exclude a natural cause if you have a designer first!
Sorry!
@@vertigo4236 You beat me to it.
@@holgerlubotzki3469 You are fixated in the wording rather than in the argument. Let me rephrase it.
If you find evidence of design in an item, you have evidence of a designer. As a designed item needs a designer.
The problem is evidencing design.
What you can't do is go "this thing looks similar to things humans make therefore it must be designed" as that creates an assumption of design. You have to show a feature was caused by an intentful agent. It's why archaeologists often have problems showing that something is a tool or piece of art.
Creationists don't seem to understand that however. They think because DNA is similar to human codes it MUST be designed despite the whole system showing artefacts of natural evolutionary development.
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"If you find evidence of design in an item, you have evidence of a designer. As a designed item needs a designer."
Nope! Wrong!
The only evidence of a desinger that works, IS THE DESIGNER.
Look at Giant's Causeway, it looks designed. But it isn't.
To make it clear:
If it looks designed, it can either be designed or not designed (natural).
If it looks natural, it can either be natural or not be natural (designed).
In both cases, only a positive proof can settle this, either you find a natural cause or the designer.
The only one here that missuses semantics, is you!
- as to meaning and defining the actual blood of Christ that so to the DNA of God that has been she'd (?) -she'd`d´ing as to the representation of two :and not actual bloodshed as to the representation of this (?)
Funnily enough, I was just about to ask you about that.
I'm an articulate and justified black man.
“People can have personal experiences but that doesn’t make it real” sums up the trans movement
How? Because you can't cope with people having feelings that don't meet your approval, ergo they must be imaginary? Explain yourself, fruitcake
Wow you're so original 😂😂😂😂
@@joshsheridan9511 I wish my atheist community would recognize this… the one thing they keep saying about god being real because they believe it is. It’s a cognitive dissonance that I need them to recognize and stop being just “not Christian”…
Refute the argument… bet you can’t
@@Hscaper would you like to write that in a coherent way.?
Another person who at least pretends not to understand the difference between personal identity and external facts.
he/him? you call BS on god and jesus (rightfully so) but you're all in on the he/him bs?
Well, it's mostly for the hosts and comments to know how the caller likes to be referred to as. They could guess, but maybe the caller doesn't fit neatly into the category we'd assign them. Just takes any incorrect guesswork out of it.
@@andrewpagan5087 FOH with this BS. HOW ABOUT THEIR NAME? Some people in power DECIDED to make "gender a social construct" without any supporting evidence to do so, and now people want to REQUIRE others to use certain speech. FOH.
@@TheSport78What about their name?
"he/him bs?" Pronouns are BS? Why? 😀
@@TheSport78let me guess you think sports actually matter
You can also have an atheist experience - which is anything you can't explain the origin for.
What?
What is explanation of origin of anything have to do with atheism? 😀
Thy would be an agnostic experience.
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Is that why you invented god to explain things you don't understand?
When you look at a basic fishbowl you know that someone did the following.
1. Put dirt or sand in it.
2. Filled it with water.
3. Filled it with plants.
4. Put a light above it.
5. Put some fish/turtles or frog in it.
When you see this on a planetary scale you say it just "happened" or it "evolved" that way. Only this fishbowl contains tens of thousands of plants, animals, and a enormous light that keeps it alive.
Does that make logical sense?
Obviously a magic sky fairy appeared out of nowhere, waved his wand and created the whole lot of of nothing. Makes perfect sense.
The universe is not a fish bowl.
Next argument.
@@queuecee I am talking about the earth. Again, you avoid answering anything. Using the common smug atheist response and thinking it's some sort of explanation. It's not.
@@Sundae_Times That's exactly what atheism is. In the beginning there was nothing and then it exploded????
@@gmswhackos2652 Why have you been reduced to inventing and spouting blatant lies about what atheism is? Please explain!
Genomes of animals were written by a genius. Nobody can take a pen and paper and think up and write down a sequence of A's, C's, T's, and G's that will create an animal.
"Genomes of animal" were not written at all. They evolved.
Like the laryngeal nerve in a giraffe, you mean?
Does the laryngeal nerve in the giraffe only innervate the larynx or does it do other things besides just that?
Nope
How is it "written"? We see it changing constantly. There is no single "human" genome. For each complete sequence, it's just a snapshot. And that's why every individual is a transitional individual of their species.
So when a Christian claims that Adam and Eve had a "perfect" human genome without any "mutations", it is nonsensical. And demonstrates that person is just ignorant of genetics.
I think I heard that the gents who run this channel are former Christians? I assume their story is the same as many others on the net and it goes something like this.
"I was a Christian for XX years and then had an awakening and realized it was false."
Question: So you're admitting you were dead wrong for many years but now you're right????? At this point your track record is pretty bad right? Maybe you're wrong again???????
Christian: "You are admitting, you were wrong!!!"
Atheist:"Yes, I was fed lies for many years and now I know better."
Christian:"Looool, you admited being wrong and changed!!!"
Atheist:"Yes, we learn from our mistakes, you would never admit being wrong and change, wouldn't you?"
Christian:"Nooooo! Never!!!!"
You are not very bright aren't you?😂
"Question: So you're admitting you were dead wrong for many years but now you're right????? At this point your track record is pretty bad right? Maybe you're wrong again???????"
Do you ask that same question to people who've converted _to_ Christianity? 🤔
@@sideboob6851 that's not a response. Just an insult .....it's what atheists go to quickly when they feel themselves losing an argument.
@@Sundae_Times Don't answer a question with a question.
@@vertigo4236 Once again. Quickly resort to insults because your argument is empty and filled with enormous holes.
Not how it works. All of you atheists have heard the Gospel message..you don’t get to blame ANYONE other than yourselves. We clear??
The atheists don't believe you anymore than they believe any of the gospels, canonical or otherwise.
Neither do I
Ah classic. pascals wager.
Excuse me while I refuse to worship a narcissistic tyrant
@@nealjroberts4050 cool. You made your choice. That’s on YOU. Time to stop crying in the comments section & take responsibility for once in your life. Then again, you can sit around all day & rack up 100+ comments on every YT video this channel puts out & keep lying to yourself. I can’t imagine what you people are like in real life that sit around all day commenting on YT. Just lol.
@paulk9188 you just sound really sad thinking you can threaten people to your belief system.
@@stefansmith4313 why would you think I’m threatening, you made your choice & that’s on you, & you alone. Don’t want to accept, okay. Fine by me.
Every one on this channel (including the hosts) are insane narcissists or at least that is the image\ impression they are reflecting
I believe that include you, right? 😀
The hosts are not narcissists at all
@@SevenPr1meyes they are, their motto is do as thy wilt
@@paulk9188 That doesn't make them narcissists.
@@paulk9188 and that is narcissistic how? I don't see why you, a Christian, should have a problem with it. Your God is the biggest narcissist in the universe. It takes a special kind of narcissist to threaten eternal torture if people dont worship and love said god
Do you know what an atheist world is?
@@sideboob6851What does your question have to do with my question?
Do you know what the difference between your arse and you elbow is?
@@sideboob6851 Whatever you want to call it, what does your question have to do with it?
@@Sundae_Times Go
@@sideboob6851 Are you too embarrassed to admit that you don't know what an atheist world is even though you want to see one?
Atheism is one of the oldest beliefs dating back in the ancient world BC, and it was at its peak in popularity percentagewise back then... until the arrival of the Risen Lord Savior Jesus Christ...
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You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly...
Romans 5:6
Repeat after me: atheism is not cult, it's not religion, it's not worldview, it's just simple statement "I don't believe in gods". Everyone who says otherwise is brainwashed ignorant tool.
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We are still waiting for you to provide some good verifiable evidence that you are right about your g0d and that one billion Hindus are wrong about theirs.
What's the hold up?
No it wasn't. Do you not know what atheism is?
Yeah but what if it's Islam that was right and the Christians were wrong? Over a billion Muslims would disagree with you about Jesus Christ being a god
This always sounds so ignorant to say let me axe you a question. Now focus on the word axe. Axe is a tool to chop with. Hello
Dogwhistle . IFCU.