Freya's damage modifiers: Melee: 1.716 Ranged: 1.584 I think she's probably in line for a buff at some point, she falls considerably behind Liu Fei. On that note, full Liu Fei quest guide coming this Friday! Patreon: www.patreon.com/eradicati0n Join our Discord!: discord.gg/myexFkZ Get my first book FREE!: www.patreon.com/posts/89695302 X/Twitter: twitter.com/eradicati0nn ALL my Conan lore videos: ruclips.net/p/PLb1BvY8uSBcc-H4sq5AqnBK4oRNkCcOOk
@@Haamre last time i played (2 or 3 yrs ago) berserkers got nerfed to like 1.7 and lost 40% of their hp pool. Ik they have extremely high combo attack chance but idk the new numbers anymore lol.
@@bronysaiyan5236 They got the hp nerfed into oblivion (even at lvl20, you end up with something like 3.5k - maybe a bit over 4k, if you keep rolling those soul elixirs until you get a +25/+30 vit bonus), but the melee dmg modificator is back to 2.24 for CimBer and 2.21 for Dalinsia. Funnily enough, it seems like the volcano T4s have been buffed and now have a 2.5155 m.dmg.mod.
I’m thrilled that her character was given this treatment as a well earned companion! There’s so many named characters on the map that could be turned into companions like this too, and I’m excited to see where FC takes this!
We'll pretend I have watched the whole video - that's waiting for me to finish the Liu Fei one today. Thanks for posting. Am certainly liking this new storytelling, timed questing and hope there will be more down the line - even ad hoc. A good, non-partisan approach that I wish many others would follow ;)
Braga the Cimmerian is such an itnresting character. Seeing his ghost all around the exiles lands alongside his partner until his partner died was sad to read. The harlot left me empty. I was so excited and invested. Freya and Dina look cool in the Highlands, Janos Liam as well as Varpnir! And in single player there’s Avatar of Mitra who’s virtually indestructible but not the best fighter he gets his ass kicked by NPCs easily lol
Needs a buff to be on par with Liu Fei. I also wish they'd kept the Archer theme. Good Archer Thralls are hard to find compared to Fighters, and assuming that Conan will become a Companion at a later chapter, they're missing the opportunity to have a Fighter/Archer/Sorcerer trio.
A buff is most definitely needed for sure. I don't think we'll ever get Conan as a companion though, he just doesn't seem the type that would need our help, nor would he repay us by essentially being our sidekick
Freya's bleed perk makes her one of the best or near best thrall for PvE. Because once she gets one bleed on a target her bleed ticks up to 20 without additional hits. So she can bleed down any mob in the game. This is likely a bug that will be fixed in the future. Also giving Freya a strength based weapon that every hit adds bleed in addition to the weapons other traits can be more than make up her lower damage modifiers.
I truly think if a remaster were to happen, adding siptah to base game is smart, however a portal to jump between lands in game would a massive upgrade
Well I've tried to spoil as little as possible, but by necessity, some of the biggest story points are spoiled in this guide. It's worth experiencing the quest first hand for sure, then you can come back and watch this video 😂
I wish they would have put these companion characters in some equivalent of the Cave of Kurak - out of sight. It really breaks immersion when you're running around with Freya only to see her also on the next ridge, kneeling by the fire. Also, any idea if we're getting more chapters to the AoH with more companions? It would be cool if its a series that culminates with Conan himself.
Yeah I can definitely see it being immersion breaking. Apparently we're getting companions with every chapter, though I don't think it should culminate in Conan, it seems out of character for him to just be happy as our underling
@@Eradicati0nn The companion run could be limited to interaction and end with cool loot instead of him as a companion. And of course he grunts and complains the whole time.
Anyone else having the problem that at 6:25 the option "let's do it" wont show? I cant get it to show, tried killing myself even server restart didnt do anything
I went through both Freya's and Liu Fei's quest in single player, but upon completing them and saying I'd be happy for them to join my crew... they just disappeared into the ether.
Im stuck on step 4. I dont get the prompt to kill the bear elk boar and wolf when i gontonher hovel it only shows the goodbye option when speaking with herb
Has anyone made a more in-depth perk combo analysis on her (and Liu Fei)? For example, for Freya's perk 1 - the "Resolute" perk seem to be better (especially when paired up with Potion of Rebirth rolls to get a 3x 10/15 +vit/str bonus), though if "Carnage" provides heal upon each hit - depending on the amount healed, it might actually be not bad. Also - how's the bleeding compared to bleeding done by weapons (i.e. - Incarmine ones), does it pump up the same stack, or add a second, "special" one like gouging does? 🤔 Same with perk 3 - how much exactly (pts or % wise) does the "rejuvenation" provides? How many seconds more does the "stagger longer" provide? Without that data, we're basically forced to guess - and seeing how buggy and long (especially Freya's...) those quests are, it's not as easy to just "yolo" through them and test it yourself... 😕
It seems the campfire is still bugged? I literally build the one from inventory menu, unless game makers want bonfire since that is located in the hovel :D Edit: Okay so instead of campfire build a Bonfire (the big white one) I had that on my temporary base and she started praying :D
I'm stuck on Step 2, I went to Storm Watch, showed her the map, she went to New Asagarth, met me at my base, told me to meet her at her hovel, I went to her hovel, but she only says she needs her strength back and my only option is "goodbye." What did I do wrong? Is there a way to fix this quest?
I'm just wondering if I should release my existing Freya thrall before the update, or did they think of that and I'll just have en emotionless clone already milling about my base.
Thrall Freya will stay, but you won't be able to get her anymore as she'll be replaced by Companion Freya, so she's essentially a discontinued thrall. I can see having Thrall Freya appealing to some people inclined to collect rare or interesting items
I'm stuck on step 7, Freya won't appear outside New Asargarth. I get the dialogue at her hovel, then go to where she's supposed to be and she's not there.
This one likes everything about the Freya quest (other than the bugs). But the rewards... Poop. While this one personally uses Shortswords... Freya herself is a Strength focus character. Also her stats... Did they just leave her as is and give her unique perks? Liu Chad the Swollomancer blows her out of the water. Both as a follower and his reward. At least his spoiler can be used on whatever gear you care, while Freya's Shortsword is only Shortswords. Good quest, manky rewards.
The Companion version of Freya is a fighter I believe, and the devs confirmed that old instances of Freya will remain, they won't get removed or anything, but they also won't have Freya's VA or perks. As far as I know, the thrall version of Freya doesn't spawn anymore and is replaced by the companion though, so the thrall is essentially discontinued
Dina is pretty much a carbon copy of Freya. They're both T4 Archer Thralls with guaranteed spawn points in the Highlands, with the exact same stats and appearance. That's probably the reason Freya is being converted into a Companion. She's always been the more popular of the two for being slightly easier to find (Dina wanders a little bit), so she's getting the special treatment, while at the same time they're keeping the old version in the game.
@@Hehehe-gk4eq One of the rarest I would think. Supply might be quite high initially but logic says there will come a point where very few Freyas remain, unless you can still get them on Siptah
I stucked at quest 4 , she only tells that something is near, and do nothing, after killing all 4 several times she still says I have to kill all 4, is there a solution for this problem?
Did she follow you and call them out when she spotted them? If not, I believe that has to happen. That being said, there are a fair amount of reports on the forums of issues with quest progression for Freya, so it may also be that
Did you go there on the regular game? The update is still in beta so she'll just be a regular hostile thrall on the regular game until the release in October
They're still very strong, I just tested them again and they deal a lot of damage at level 30ish, enough to probably 4 shot you. That being said, the serpentman boss and human enemies at the forge itself are despawned for Freya's quest, so you only have to clear the serpentmen around her, you can run away from the others enough to drop aggro
@@whazuesicefang5001 Well I guess they changed it after the update, because I saw Wak's playthrough during the test version and she didn't wear it. I haven't even bothered doing these quests yet.
@@infernohellknight im just 1 step away from getting freya as a companion and for me that will be done tomorrow morning my PS4 is usually turned off for most of the day so my niece and nephews can watch on the tv
I think she definitely needs a buff, Liu Fei shouldn't be stronger than her, but I was pretty happy with the questline as a whole aside from the sometimes excessive timegating. I definitely didn't feel underwhelmed myself, but her performance as a thrall doesn't exactly exceed my expectations either, I would say I'm just "whelmed", if you will 😂
@@Eradicati0nn questline for what reward? it is a game we take actions to be rewarded, in the case of freja, as she is presented in the beta, it is not worth the effort, like the wild hunt of aow4 or the new stuff of aow4-delay. The problem is that CE is still stuck with all the managenent errors made half a decade ago, and the morons managing the studio, still can not accept them and move on, only bringing in more junior stuff to tell them yes sir.
I think Freya could definitely do with a buff, Liu Fei is statistically much higher. I think the timegate between New Asagarth and Nordhof could be entirely removed in this quest too, shave off 8 hours and it would help the narrative in that section I think
@@Eradicati0nn Waiting for funcom to make the change. LiuFei it's much better that's rigth. Even so I think it should be a little better since it is not a conventional thrall that you can have in 1 hour. I understand that you had to wait 8 hours after the first dialogue
This season would be awsome in conan If... The tralls won't disappear, the sorcerer hunters would be still in the game, and most of all... This f@cking Boar boss would be spawned. There are 2 boss boars in the north Region. One is never spawned and the other one is out of Freya's following range. I need god damn 100 meters more to get the boar, but nooo... Freya's Just going home. So I gave up on her. Waste of time. This missions also boring as f@ck. For real. Mining star metal orbs has more excitement than running around the map like an idiot just for find some no name hidden flowers, and killing rabbit's and wolves... and the alpha boar. Oh and you also have to wait 8 hours of cooldown between each part of this mission's. Who made this kind of mission's? Some ex Ubisoft developer?? That time you can build up a base from 0 and you can take 50 hard ass tralls. What a waste...
I just built the big bonfire and she knelt down before it and started praying a friend of mine did it with a regular campfire and large campfire but she would not pray to them and it's the big white wood bonfire that is being called a campfire for the quest plus if you built it in creative mod the quest might of not registered it as just been built its like with experience points bar and the journey steps progress does not register if your in creative mode
It's the same experience across single player and online, the timer ticks down even if you're offline with your device shut down, it's real-time and not in-game time
8 hours plus 8 hours plus 8 hours and... i completely forgot about her. This was totally annoying and all this to get a weak worthless thrall. During that quest i found Hekkr in a cage in a nordheimer camp, now that he's at level 20 he has about 6000 heath points and can face any boss alone with a good armor and a star metal short sword, he's just almost immortal. So after this, getting back to Freya and her 8 hours fuc.. waiting time was out of question! Who thaught that it would be a good idea, for someone who doesn't play every day it can take 2-3 weeks to complete that quest. This is not an awfull grind but an awfull soporific chore.
the quests to get her back (after the Dev's took mine away from me) .. and the 8x hours is just SO stupid!... Dev's go redo this.. after you fix the broken crafter issue! .. (fliping MF I....'s) ... about to give up on this game!..
can someone tell what I'm doing wrong I've killed like 10 of every animal alpha and normal and she still only says something you need? am I missing a step?
Freya's damage modifiers:
Melee: 1.716
Ranged: 1.584
I think she's probably in line for a buff at some point, she falls considerably behind Liu Fei. On that note, full Liu Fei quest guide coming this Friday!
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Shes got a 2.06 melee damage now and 1.9 ranged. Shes better than berserkers n such now
@@bronysaiyan5236 Berserker has a 2.24 melee dmg mod though...?
@@Haamre last time i played (2 or 3 yrs ago) berserkers got nerfed to like 1.7 and lost 40% of their hp pool. Ik they have extremely high combo attack chance but idk the new numbers anymore lol.
@@bronysaiyan5236 They got the hp nerfed into oblivion (even at lvl20, you end up with something like 3.5k - maybe a bit over 4k, if you keep rolling those soul elixirs until you get a +25/+30 vit bonus), but the melee dmg modificator is back to 2.24 for CimBer and 2.21 for Dalinsia.
Funnily enough, it seems like the volcano T4s have been buffed and now have a 2.5155 m.dmg.mod.
I’m thrilled that her character was given this treatment as a well earned companion! There’s so many named characters on the map that could be turned into companions like this too, and I’m excited to see where FC takes this!
I appreciate the video chapters, it allowed me to learn enough to get excited while avoiding spoilers.
We'll pretend I have watched the whole video - that's waiting for me to finish the Liu Fei one today.
Thanks for posting. Am certainly liking this new storytelling, timed questing and hope there will be more down the line - even ad hoc.
A good, non-partisan approach that I wish many others would follow ;)
Nice guide! I do not need her but this voice acting is so awesome that I will do this quest.
Braga the Cimmerian is such an itnresting character. Seeing his ghost all around the exiles lands alongside his partner until his partner died was sad to read. The harlot left me empty. I was so excited and invested. Freya and Dina look cool in the Highlands, Janos Liam as well as Varpnir! And in single player there’s Avatar of Mitra who’s virtually indestructible but not the best fighter he gets his ass kicked by NPCs easily lol
Needs a buff to be on par with Liu Fei. I also wish they'd kept the Archer theme. Good Archer Thralls are hard to find compared to Fighters, and assuming that Conan will become a Companion at a later chapter, they're missing the opportunity to have a Fighter/Archer/Sorcerer trio.
A buff is most definitely needed for sure. I don't think we'll ever get Conan as a companion though, he just doesn't seem the type that would need our help, nor would he repay us by essentially being our sidekick
I'm a big fan of the archer Duneman; he has a 100% spawn location.
Better then the stats of the Relic Hunter archers... WTF did they ruin them again?
Freya's bleed perk makes her one of the best or near best thrall for PvE. Because once she gets one bleed on a target her bleed ticks up to 20 without additional hits. So she can bleed down any mob in the game. This is likely a bug that will be fixed in the future. Also giving Freya a strength based weapon that every hit adds bleed in addition to the weapons other traits can be more than make up her lower damage modifiers.
I truly think if a remaster were to happen, adding siptah to base game is smart, however a portal to jump between lands in game would a massive upgrade
Awesome info right there!
Thx for Video.
Unfortunately I didn't watch it. I fanatically avoid any spoilers. Even if someone tells me they aren't there, I don't believe it :D
Well I've tried to spoil as little as possible, but by necessity, some of the biggest story points are spoiled in this guide. It's worth experiencing the quest first hand for sure, then you can come back and watch this video 😂
I wish they would have put these companion characters in some equivalent of the Cave of Kurak - out of sight. It really breaks immersion when you're running around with Freya only to see her also on the next ridge, kneeling by the fire. Also, any idea if we're getting more chapters to the AoH with more companions? It would be cool if its a series that culminates with Conan himself.
Yeah I can definitely see it being immersion breaking. Apparently we're getting companions with every chapter, though I don't think it should culminate in Conan, it seems out of character for him to just be happy as our underling
@@Eradicati0nn The companion run could be limited to interaction and end with cool loot instead of him as a companion. And of course he grunts and complains the whole time.
The fire is you want to put fuel in her bonfire for the campfire
tnks dude
Freya keeps saying "ah theres an ingrediant"then kneels down and doesnt gather it been stuck on this last step for bout a hour now
Anyone else having the problem that at 6:25 the option "let's do it" wont show? I cant get it to show, tried killing myself even server restart didnt do anything
I went through both Freya's and Liu Fei's quest in single player, but upon completing them and saying I'd be happy for them to join my crew... they just disappeared into the ether.
Beautiful. 🍻
Im stuck on step 4. I dont get the prompt to kill the bear elk boar and wolf when i gontonher hovel it only shows the goodbye option when speaking with herb
Has anyone made a more in-depth perk combo analysis on her (and Liu Fei)?
For example, for Freya's perk 1 - the "Resolute" perk seem to be better (especially when paired up with Potion of Rebirth rolls to get a 3x 10/15 +vit/str bonus), though if "Carnage" provides heal upon each hit - depending on the amount healed, it might actually be not bad.
Also - how's the bleeding compared to bleeding done by weapons (i.e. - Incarmine ones), does it pump up the same stack, or add a second, "special" one like gouging does? 🤔
Same with perk 3 - how much exactly (pts or % wise) does the "rejuvenation" provides? How many seconds more does the "stagger longer" provide?
Without that data, we're basically forced to guess - and seeing how buggy and long (especially Freya's...) those quests are, it's not as easy to just "yolo" through them and test it yourself... 😕
It seems the campfire is still bugged? I literally build the one from inventory menu, unless game makers want bonfire since that is located in the hovel :D
Edit: Okay so instead of campfire build a Bonfire (the big white one) I had that on my temporary base and she started praying :D
I'm stuck on Step 2, I went to Storm Watch, showed her the map, she went to New Asagarth, met me at my base, told me to meet her at her hovel, I went to her hovel, but she only says she needs her strength back and my only option is "goodbye." What did I do wrong? Is there a way to fix this quest?
I'm just wondering if I should release my existing Freya thrall before the update, or did they think of that and I'll just have en emotionless clone already milling about my base.
Thrall Freya will stay, but you won't be able to get her anymore as she'll be replaced by Companion Freya, so she's essentially a discontinued thrall. I can see having Thrall Freya appealing to some people inclined to collect rare or interesting items
@@Eradicati0nn Very cool, thanks! I think I'll hang on to her and see what happens!
What about isle of siptah
I'm stuck on step 7, Freya won't appear outside New Asargarth. I get the dialogue at her hovel, then go to where she's supposed to be and she's not there.
I have this same problem. I got to the New Asagarth step today but she is not waiting.
What do I do if Freya won't spawn in the volcano
This one likes everything about the Freya quest (other than the bugs).
But the rewards...
Poop.
While this one personally uses Shortswords...
Freya herself is a Strength focus character.
Also her stats... Did they just leave her as is and give her unique perks? Liu Chad the Swollomancer blows her out of the water. Both as a follower and his reward.
At least his spoiler can be used on whatever gear you care, while Freya's Shortsword is only Shortswords.
Good quest, manky rewards.
I have a question. Before this update, Freya was a Thrall Archer. What happens to the Freya that you get as Thrall once this update comes out.
The Companion version of Freya is a fighter I believe, and the devs confirmed that old instances of Freya will remain, they won't get removed or anything, but they also won't have Freya's VA or perks. As far as I know, the thrall version of Freya doesn't spawn anymore and is replaced by the companion though, so the thrall is essentially discontinued
@@Eradicati0nn so technically it'll be the rarest thrall?
Dina is pretty much a carbon copy of Freya. They're both T4 Archer Thralls with guaranteed spawn points in the Highlands, with the exact same stats and appearance. That's probably the reason Freya is being converted into a Companion. She's always been the more popular of the two for being slightly easier to find (Dina wanders a little bit), so she's getting the special treatment, while at the same time they're keeping the old version in the game.
@@Hehehe-gk4eq One of the rarest I would think. Supply might be quite high initially but logic says there will come a point where very few Freyas remain, unless you can still get them on Siptah
@@Eradicati0nn bet
Where do you find her on Siptah?
Freya & Liu Fei are unfortunately only available on The Exiled Lands, their stories are bound to locations there
@@Eradicati0nn As per usual, Funcom shaft Siptah users then. Always the same
Time gating it is weird quest choice and not even once it's too much
I stucked at quest 4 , she only tells that something is near, and do nothing, after killing all 4 several times she still says I have to kill all 4, is there a solution for this problem?
Did she follow you and call them out when she spotted them? If not, I believe that has to happen.
That being said, there are a fair amount of reports on the forums of issues with quest progression for Freya, so it may also be that
She kept repeating it for me because I stole the kill hit had to redo it and let her kill them so the questline would continue
why can't I have her as a companion? once the campaign is over she doesn't stay in my base and I can't even find her on the list of slaves anymore...
I think i found a bug. I went to go start her quest and when i got there she attacked me. There were also other npc's there who also attacked me.
Did you go there on the regular game? The update is still in beta so she'll just be a regular hostile thrall on the regular game until the release in October
@@Eradicati0nn That makes more sense. I've basically done everything in the game that you can do and i'm capped at the max level.
So i need a tavern gotcha
Have they fixed the human enemies at the Volcanic Forge? They were broken last time that I was there and could two shot you.
They're still very strong, I just tested them again and they deal a lot of damage at level 30ish, enough to probably 4 shot you. That being said, the serpentman boss and human enemies at the forge itself are despawned for Freya's quest, so you only have to clear the serpentmen around her, you can run away from the others enough to drop aggro
Thanks Eradication
I had her come in as a general thrall didn't know how to fix it..
But I liked this quest
Does she accept BONE ARROWS?
She does not 😂
@@Eradicati0nn She is a very picky thrall indeed! 😂😂
Why is she not wearing the armor in the image of the age of heroes that has her with Lu Fei and Conan.
She wore it twice for me so far fighting hagarth and the battling the demons at the forge in the well of skellos step
@@whazuesicefang5001 Well I guess they changed it after the update, because I saw Wak's playthrough during the test version and she didn't wear it. I haven't even bothered doing these quests yet.
@@infernohellknight im just 1 step away from getting freya as a companion and for me that will be done tomorrow morning my PS4 is usually turned off for most of the day so my niece and nephews can watch on the tv
excluding the "orgy" option, everything else was underwhelming about the freya... only wasted VA :(
I think she definitely needs a buff, Liu Fei shouldn't be stronger than her, but I was pretty happy with the questline as a whole aside from the sometimes excessive timegating. I definitely didn't feel underwhelmed myself, but her performance as a thrall doesn't exactly exceed my expectations either, I would say I'm just "whelmed", if you will 😂
@@Eradicati0nn questline for what reward? it is a game we take actions to be rewarded, in the case of freja, as she is presented in the beta, it is not worth the effort, like the wild hunt of aow4 or the new stuff of aow4-delay. The problem is that CE is still stuck with all the managenent errors made half a decade ago, and the morons managing the studio, still can not accept them and move on, only bringing in more junior stuff to tell them yes sir.
What is orgy option
It's quite a while to get these NPCs. I think they should be much more buffed 😕
I think Freya could definitely do with a buff, Liu Fei is statistically much higher. I think the timegate between New Asagarth and Nordhof could be entirely removed in this quest too, shave off 8 hours and it would help the narrative in that section I think
@@Eradicati0nn Waiting for funcom to make the change. LiuFei it's much better that's rigth. Even so I think it should be a little better since it is not a conventional thrall that you can have in 1 hour. I understand that you had to wait 8 hours after the first dialogue
How about the campfire bug!!! So stupid!
This season would be awsome in conan If... The tralls won't disappear, the sorcerer hunters would be still in the game, and most of all... This f@cking Boar boss would be spawned. There are 2 boss boars in the north Region. One is never spawned and the other one is out of Freya's following range. I need god damn 100 meters more to get the boar, but nooo... Freya's Just going home. So I gave up on her. Waste of time. This missions also boring as f@ck. For real. Mining star metal orbs has more excitement than running around the map like an idiot just for find some no name hidden flowers, and killing rabbit's and wolves... and the alpha boar. Oh and you also have to wait 8 hours of cooldown between each part of this mission's. Who made this kind of mission's? Some ex Ubisoft developer?? That time you can build up a base from 0 and you can take 50 hard ass tralls. What a waste...
She won't interact with the campfire, went back to her place and she still ask me to build a campfire.
I just built the big bonfire and she knelt down before it and started praying a friend of mine did it with a regular campfire and large campfire but she would not pray to them and it's the big white wood bonfire that is being called a campfire for the quest plus if you built it in creative mod the quest might of not registered it as just been built its like with experience points bar and the journey steps progress does not register if your in creative mode
Lol bummed I got the garbage perk for Freya since I let her kill the animals.
8 hours?! So much for single player ,funny they never modify the armor of dead corpses lol
It's the same experience across single player and online, the timer ticks down even if you're offline with your device shut down, it's real-time and not in-game time
You can use admin console cheats to avoid this 8h. Take a look at Waks videos for that, he shows the cheats in it.
8 hours plus 8 hours plus 8 hours and... i completely forgot about her. This was totally annoying and all this to get a weak worthless thrall. During that quest i found Hekkr in a cage in a nordheimer camp, now that he's at level 20 he has about 6000 heath points and can face any boss alone with a good armor and a star metal short sword, he's just almost immortal.
So after this, getting back to Freya and her 8 hours fuc.. waiting time was out of question! Who thaught that it would be a good idea, for someone who doesn't play every day it can take 2-3 weeks to complete that quest. This is not an awfull grind but an awfull soporific chore.
3 day spend for a bad thrall lmao
that was a wast of time video
the quests to get her back (after the Dev's took mine away from me) .. and the 8x hours is just SO stupid!... Dev's go redo this.. after you fix the broken crafter issue! .. (fliping MF I....'s) ... about to give up on this game!..
I like the 8 hour wait period because it feels more emmersive of real life sleep
funcom kill this game with this update
can someone tell what I'm doing wrong I've killed like 10 of every animal alpha and normal and she still only says something you need? am I missing a step?
Same here. I have thousands of hides collected from large animals and no progress in the quest???????