We can also view it on the flip side! INTJ, "Wow, ISTJ enoys all the mential tasks that I hate doing so I can focus on my plans" ISTJ, "Wow, INTJ is always making plans so I can focus on things I care about"
I'm an iNTJ woman, and my bf is an iSTJ. we worked together so well, even thou all the people around us keep saying we don't match each other. nahh they don't know. we are very complementary. i love him ❤
Due to my low Se, I didn't realize that I was wearing a ring on my left hand. I assure you that I am not married and if I was, I did not consent or know about it 🙃
Haha😂 dat so funny Jon🤣 But are you sure? I remember you saying you didn't know you were in a relationship until U meet da girls family...😑 Maybe you forgot...😅
Good to hear this - my partner of 19 years is an ISTJ, I'm an INTJ, and we work together so well. He takes care of the details and I'm the vision/planning guy. We've worked out ways to check in about feelings in ways that work for us and don't make us want to puke. (smile) We know how to give each other privacy and time for our personal work. We run three businesses together make it work. And he does love those spreadsheets. He makes spreadsheets for recreational purposes. We pride ourselves on being problem-solvers. We do have to push each other to remember those romantic gestures, though, or we'll just fall out of the habit and lose the juicy bits.
ISTJs are absolutely not boring. I don’t know why the MBTI community says that ISTJs are boring dads. That’s just not true. Shared Te-Fi axis helps with connecting with one another. Gotta be one of my favourite types. They’re amazing when you talk to them.
I am INTJ and my ISTJ boyfriend is the most organized, kind, down-to-earth and stable person I've ever met. I feel so at ease around him. There is an understated gentleness to him under his serious demeanor which I absolutely adore.
I absolutely love when I get to work with an ISTJ because I can count on them to see the big picture I lay out, and then help with the fact checking to make sure I'm on the right path. Can it be frustrating at times? Absolutely, but mostly because as an INTJ the minutiae factors are usually the things I tend to be unconcerned about. Yet it's that care they put into the details that I also value as a fact check because if there is a small detail that changed and could potentially change the trajectory of a project or plan, they'll be the first to notice and call it out which I appreciate so much in the long run. It really comes down to just building that trust between us. As an INTJ, when that trust is built up, I know if an ISTJ comes to me with a concern over a detail, it's worth looking into to make doubly sure it's not an issue. And for the ISTJ, just trust me when I tell you a pattern is in play and go with the flow because if I'm calling it out, it's most likely because the end result is almost certain based on previous patterns and data. 😆
That trust really is amazing to have between the two! We admire each other's Te so it's easy to trust that things will get done once we align on Ni and Si. The fact-checking gets annoying at times but I appreciate it, in an annoyed INTJ way 😂
My grandma is an istj and I am an intj so we connect way better than my other siblings. Whenever I am over and we want to watch a movie she would ask what I wanted to watch and I would give suggestions and ideas and then she would ask “do you want to each this movie” in response I would say something like “it’s a good movie but I don’t know.” As you said I am the most indecisive when it comes to choosing anything that would affect the group that’s not important. Thanks for the videos I love them all and I am loving watching you evolve as a RUclipsr with the many challenges and struggles it entails.
I always appreciate the support brotha! Mature ISTJs are honestly one of the best types to be around for an INTJ. They really are patient with us and I appreciate them taking care of our sensory needs 😀
Male ISTJ - T here, taking notes. Looking forward to date a female INTJ. I like (tend) to send her descriptive messages how my day went, or what I am doing. She either sees this and says nothing, or responds with a short message. In time, I hope to hear from her more. I may be sharing too much 🫠 Thank you for the informative video.
Congrats on finding an INTJ! Being descriptive about our day just isn't how we normally communicate. I bet she'd reply sooner or more often if you ask her thoughts on something that you read about rather than if you asked her how her day was...but that doesn't mean never ask her about her day 🙃
I'm glad you enjoyed it! (I'm assuming you're an ISTJ), I'm not sure if I'm proud of this video so I might remake it at a later date because I feel like I missed a lot of info about our dynamics 🙃
I love your communication style/approach; you have the ability to embody the type or function that you are describing to expertly convey the differences and commonalities between them in ways that are tangible. Appreciate what you do! 🙂
You being an INTJ loving the ISTJs like you do is very similar to me as an INFJ loving the ISFJs as I do. We bond over our common middle functions whiles we can clash with the Ni/Si difference. The ISFJ I know, our dominant functions can clash but we are very respectful about it. We get along very well I must admit.
@@justcallmejon22 Ever notice the eyes of an ISFJ, they can run pretty deep I must admit. Also, I guess if I wanted to meet more INTJs I just need to hang out with ISTJs.
Great video as always. When we talk about Te Fi or N informations we get along well, but when they try to impose their Si... INTJ not happy. I think our reasoning is reversed, mainly ISTJ function by deduction and INTJ by induction (yep we are build in reverse 🤣) INTJ ISTJ are very like children when we like something, especially with cute baby animals. That's why I find them so cute, adorable, vulnerable when they express their emotions. What make ISTJ funny is their ENFP subconscious side. You right, it's fun that Intuitives we are more friendly and social. N make us more soft and flexible, we adapt, we understand others. Ni compensate the lack of Fe. Ni dom, we are weird but people have no reasons to don't like us. I like boxes and containers too !
The subconcious side is entertaining but I prefer the Ego. It's comforting being around other Te users and I grew up around Si users so I have a strong appreciation for it 😁
@@justcallmejon22 My father was ISTJ. You made me realize that INTJ ISTJ we are extremely similar, same very deep feelings that we keep in the abyss, that we cannot really express or hardly (same biggest issue in life). Same desire for improvement, encouraging/support, practical solutions/advice. Like the INTJ, ISTJ when they have a goal in mind, they never give up. You succeed, you hit my consciousness ^^ we are so used to, and better to find the differences, that we forgot to take time to see what make make us similar. ISTJ have potential to understand us in part.
Speaking for myself and as an ISTJ I understood you just fine. Thanks for appreciating us since I usually see a lot of negative things about ISTJ/INTJ pairings. 😭😭
The container store is ISTJ heaven 😂. We are similar, I see myself in them, and sometimes I DO NOT see myself in them at all. DO Not tell an ISTJ “we’ll figure it out” 😂, good luck.
I’ve definitely had trouble figuring out which type I fall into, they do seem similar, but I suspect I’m INTJ. People will say ISTJ’s are “detail oriented”, which is confusing because I’m an analyst and have no choice but to be detail oriented. But…I always find shortcuts. I’ve had coworkers and managers who when checking their work would just line by line check every little thing manually, and that just hurts my soul. There is a systematic way to do that! Trust me, give me 2 hours and I’ll find it and save you so much time! That said, I’d be happy to let an ISTJ check my work, they’d probably do a better job of it. The other thing is comfort. I do like comfort, I even escape to it. But when I have comfort in the absence of some form of improvement journey I get depressed. The best and worst times in my life are deeply tied to goals or lack thereof at the time. If there’s a type that’s just happy to be alive and live in the present, that’s what I’d rather be!
What you're describing is Extroverted Thinking and both the IxTJs have it in the same slot order. I think the easiest way to tell the difference between these two types is how comfortable you are with change. Ni doms seeks constant change (mentally, physically, spiritually) and will feel like we're dead if we dont get it. Si doms seek security (mentally, physically, spiritually) and will feel overwhelmed when they have to change too much in a short period of time or without proper preparation.
My husband the the test the other day and it came back as istj. Thank you Jon for making this video because my intj brain likes to do my research before I come to any conclusions😅
My Dearest Jon, you really got me with this video!! I really liked your comment about meeting INTJs and ISTJs through auxiliary-Te but getting to know us through tertiary-Fi. I tried to do an audio response to this ONE point (out of 13 that I liked) but needed to make two separate videos: 1a) Relating to my job and 1b) Relating it to my family. I will share the links below. Only listen if you have time.
I was married to an ISTJ for 10 yrs. It’s love at first sight, we felt connection right away. He’s more expressive with his emotions than I. Only after a few years of our marriage I started to be more expressive with my emotions. He’s definitely not good at reading people when it comes to their motives. But he’s more social and better at engaging with people. He would always asked me how I knew things would happen this way or that way or why it happened at all. Then he calls me a psychic😂 But the time came when I outgrew him emotionally and Psychologically that I became his mother and saw him as a little child where his world is so small . At the end of our relationship, he told me that he no longer knows me and that I became a totally different person. I’ve always been obsessed with my self in becoming “nobody” vs the “somebody”. My goal is to master the self, and it has lead me to go against the grain. We are both TE users, we had an amicable divorce, no lawyer involved besides the court approving it. He even said to me that I handled it like a business transaction which kinda bothered him. We are still friends and talk to each other once in a while.
I'm saddened to hear that the relationship didn't work out but also happy to hear that you are both in contact with each other. I relate to your comment about wanting to become "nobody" because that'll allow us the freedom to grow and become "anybody" instead of a specific "somebody". Also, it makes me happy that I wasn't the only person who was instantly enamored by an ISTJ once in my life 🙂
I relate. I was with an ISTJ for over 7 years, he was also better at handling people that I (but I think I understood them better than he did in general). I grew, I too started feeling that "I became his mother and saw him as a little child where his world is so small". I made suggestions which he often took as directions to follow, instead of something to be discussed further as partners. It felt like I was supposed to be his manager. I think the biggest issue was that he would often get so focused on the little details that he completely missed the big picture. For me, who sees the big picture first and worries about the details later, that was very frustrating... Even with all the ways we were similar and compatible, this dynamic wasn't right for me anymore. We are not completely done with the separation yet, but it's clear we will stay friends.
This post saddens me because it reinforces the idea I've had for a while that women see men only as utilities. The moment you didn't see that he provided more to the relationship than you did, you thought of him as a child and threw him away like a piece of garbage. With this kind of attitude (which I know most women have), you are unworthy of any man's commitment, because you will not honor it. Why should any man do anything nice for you if you will immediately end the relationship as soon as whatever benefit he has provided you has ended? I think also you probably just weren't aware of the things he did for you. I am sympathetic to the idea that his world was smaller than yours, because I'm an INTJ male married to an ISTJ female. But I was able to accept this about her, and chose to pay attention instead to the fact that she does so many tangible good things for me, instead of focusing on the fact that she cannot follow where my heart and mind go.
@@brendangolledge8312 The bias that you have “ that women see men only as utilities” has clouded your judgement. First of all, my ex husband is not a piece of garbage, I have a lot of respect for him that if it weren’t for him I wouldn’t be where I am today. Even when he cheated on me multiple times during my pregnancy and had a miscarriage, never did I think of him as a piece of garbage. I forgave him over and over because I realized that he’s here as a teacher, to teach me forgiveness of others and forgiveness of the self. I am aware of everything he did for me big or small, I am hypersensitive to those things. We both realized that our relationship can no longer grow, we had a very long conversation and we decided to end our marriage. This is why the divorce was not dramatic like others do. We did not fight about properties or money, none of those at all like you see in typical divorce. So please stop making assumptions if you don’t know the full story.
I say, when istj asks for a plan, give em any obvious plan, let em fill in their details first and then meanwhile work on the real plan and update them about it later. Distract them with a temporary plan ig. Does that work? The temporary plan can help you see the details while the istj fills you in
I'll go with the happier stuff first before getting into my commentary on ISTJs, just because it isn't good. So in regards to the details versus the overarching plan, while both are important, and it's great to hammer out some details ahead of time, life is fluid. Sometimes the details don't exist yet. So we can't tell them. Sometimes we know generally what to expect. because of the pattern, but we can't do specifics yet because 1) the pattern may not hold true and 2) if it does, the details are going to be specific to this iteration. So I think there's a balance in that details are important and there comes a point where they're necessary, but at a certain point, we have to get moving on our plan before the details are ready or we'll never get the ball rolling at all. Now for my commentary on ISTJs. My mother is an ISTJ. I'm pretty sure my maternal grandmother whom I spent all my weekends with as a kid was an ISTJ. It was an abusive childhood. 1) I got treated like a little doll. My clothes had to conform to society's standards. This shouldn't be an issue right? I mean, it's normal to want your kids to look presentable and clean? Except for the pain. Knee highs were in style when I was a child. They were kept up with rubber bands around my legs. They hurt. But I had to look nice (Sensor, Sensor, Sensor). Cap sleeves were a thing in dresses. I was always a big child , and the sleeves cut off circulation in my arms. It hurt. But I had to look nice. My great grandmother, whom I suspect was an ENFJ or ENFP, eventually split the seams on my sleeves or would let me run around in a slip because my clothes would literally make me miserable. Oh, and the sweaters. The itchy itchy sweaters. And learning not to feel the cold on my legs in the winter by simply refusing to feel cold any more as a force of will because little girls wear tights and not pants on cold rubber car seats. And yanking my head around to brush my hair and put it up in intricate hair styles. Because I had to look nice. And popping all my pimples for me, slamming my head into the bathroom wall when I was listening to the dermatologist and not touching them. I eventually started clawing up my own face to make it stop. It was a horror show. Probably aggravated by the fact that stressed ISTJs clean because the immediate environment bothers them a lot. Stressed INTJs lose the ability to care able things like cleanliness and cleaning our immediate environment. So the more she'd try to control me and make me clean, the more miserable I'd get and the less I'd be willing to do to care for myself. And that would set her off even more, and make me more miserable. There was a point in my life where I just went home and hid in the shadows in a corner in my room and did nothing because there was just no energy left and I couldn't care. The ISTJs cared everything about my outward appearance and appearing perfect, and nothing for how utterly unhappy I was. That I was not a doll, but a human being with my own personality. It was utterly miserable and controlling while outwardly it looked like I had the best of everything my family could afford. And just no emotional support. My emotions didn't matter. The appearance of the family mattered. People say INTJs are robotic, but we have emotions and I was a very sad little girl who wasn't allowed to be sad. and a very angry little girl who didn't have any outlet for the anger. And even voicing it was not allowed. And if I didn't talk I was punished, too. Because conformity was the important thing. I can remember being eight or so with my grandma's dog lapping up my tears because I was crying and no one would comfort me. I was just abandoned because my emotions weren't important and did not conform to societal expectations. It's a good thing I liked animals because that was the only thing I had to meet my emotional needs. Cats and dogs cared the people in my life as a child rarely did. Anyway, the whole ISTJ thing as good matches for INTJs always leads to me telling some version of my childhood because it was miserable. My sisters and I, all three of us were miserable and we still have PTSD and anxiety and depression. And my mother has never once realized that she did anything wrong. We looked perfect therefore we were perfect. In business circumstances, it's a good match, I think. As you say the ISTJ is dependable, and we like dependable. But really close relationships can be awful. The ISTJ wants to control the environment and the INTJ in the environment will not be controlled. Anyway, I know you've spoken before of having ISTJ girlfriends. And if that works for you, who am I to say you're wrong? For me, that kind of thing is just a big no. I've been down that road, I know what it looks like, and the heat death of the universe will occur before I go back down that path.
Your life's journey has been long and hard for you and your sisters. I will not offer any sympathy because you do not seek it. But I can empathize with what you have shared. You and your sisters have come through the fires and have survived, and it has strengthened you in ways others will never understand. We decide how we live our lives, we have the power to break the constraints of chains that bind. Thank you for sharing your story with us.
As always, I always value your insights, and thank you for writing your story. It sounds like your family went through a lot and I hope you decided to break the cycle of abuse. I won't make comments about your family because I don't have the full picture of what happened but the ISTJ I used to date was and still is one of my favorite person. My ISTJ friends are amazing people as well and I think it comes down to their Fi, being raised similarly and having similar values. I hope you give other ISTJs a chance because humans really are a product of our environment so not all ISTJs will be as aggressive as the ones in your family. Hoping for the best for you!
Being an ISTJ 😭, I'm literally feeling bad!! These points I'll keep in mind and never ever force or tell or apply on anyone. I do tell a few things to my near & dear ones, but from now I'll make sure I'll hear from them 1stly , ask advice and then suggest them if they find good they can follow. No force from now on!
@@CommentThere In an effort to be helpful, I think the questions come down to are conformity and tradition the most important things? Even I will answer yes to that question in some situations. But not every situation is about that. And they are not the most important things always. You can't give kids no rules and sometimes you're going to be the bad guy. You also can't help the way you cope (incessant cleaning/projects seem to be ISTJ comfort food, which is just the worst match for an INTJ also coping with something.) You have your own feelings and have a right to cope with bad times. Just with this warning in mind, try not to poke the INTJ. My mom, specifically, had an idea of an ideal family because her own wasn't perfect. She was an only child of a mother who divorced before she was born due to abuse. She wanted a large family and didn't know how to manage it. Pretty much everything she could do to stoke sibling rivalry, she did. She wanted to keep up with the Joneses and it never worked out for her, and it made us all unhappy.
I'm an ISTJ girl, and I like the strategic thinking of INTJ people. They're really good chess opponents. I usually get mistyped as an INTJ because I have a few of your qualities, but no way am I one. At least you guys are way better than ENFPs (in my perspective). And you were right about the container shop.
Well on the loyalty thing, my experience with myself (INTJ) and one of my best friends (ISTJ) is that she the ISTJ is very loyal and duty based (Si & Fi) while I the INTJ get very attached (Ni & Fi). Like her understanding of our friendship is based around previous experiences together and how people normally should behave in friendships plus som warm Fi feelings sprinkled in. While my understanding is more like embedded into my understanding of myself and her plus some Fi feelings, so for me to not consider her a friend anymore would take my whole understanding of myself and her to be changed, which can be quite difficult, hence the attachment.
That's a great way of putting it. Si is similar to Ni as it's our framework system so I'm sure the ISTJ will feel something to a similar degree if things were to change. Either way, ISTJs are great 😁
My best friend, INTJ, was my crush in 4-6 grade. In our late 50s we found each other online. As we chatted and got to know each other, he said he'd never known anyone who "got him" like I do!
Im an Autistic INTJ with a neurotypical ISTJ and our relationship has always been miscommunication after miscommunication. I dont know if being autistic changes things, but he just...doesnt like me.
Insightful! I am an INTJ and I have gained interest in knowing about ISTJs. I definitely don't gel at all with the ESTJ, but I have observed that the ISTJs are actually very different and more to my liking.
Mbti is confusing me because I dont know if I'm Intj or Istj. Multiple tests told me intj even though I dont use my Intuition every time and just process what people say as it is (sometimes I ask what they mean, but still). Sarcasm can lead to most misunderstanding because of it. These tests put me into an identity crisis. Asking myself who I goddamn am
Another thing google tells me is that the biggest difference is using their imagination for the future as intj and only using the facts as istj. But I do them both 50/50 so this confuses me.
Been there my friend and what helped me find out my type was looking into cognitive functions. INTJs lead with Ni and ISTJs lead with Si and I knew I was an INTJ because I don't understand Si much. Goodluck on your journey!
I'm a big fan of the videos and my intention is not to hate here. Seriously your videos have helped me to understand myself a lot more and I respect you as a person; I simply want to share my thoughts. Based on the patterns in your previous videos discussing compatibilities with the different types, this one seems made up. There was only one brief example used and the rest was vague explanations. I understand speaking in abstract because I do it too but this one was a bit excessive. The other videos got at least slightly personal. This leads me to the conclusion that it's a made up story to add to the series of friendship and relationship compatibility. I had a feeling before but this specific video made it difficult to ignore. I am guessing you have never been as close with an ISTJ as you have with other types, which would make perfect sense as introverted as we are. Again I want to say no hate is intended here since tone and body language cannot be conveyed in text. Also if my comment seems unnecessarily mean, please delete it. If you want to rip me apart, please do that.
Dude, I'm not going to remove a comment just because of a disagreement lol. The point of this channel is for tough discussions to arrive at a mutual understanding and I appreciate all constructive criticism! I understand where you're coming from and I agree that it's not as in-depth as my videos of other types. A lot of factors were in play such as limited time for recording before the kids get home from school, being out of practice, etc. I assure you that I have a few close ISTJ friends that I've known for decades and I dated the ISTJ for a few years. With that said, I'm not going to get emotional talking about T types, ain't no T's want to get emotional watching a video 😂
agree with the whole planning thing, badly needing to know the steps before things commence haha (ref. 8:40), I wouldn't let go of the "how" questions until I get answers or get to answer them myself. ISTJ.
+@@justcallmejon22 I just realized that my boss is an ISTJ.. lol, on a rewatch now because of it. I'm realizing 0:30 is so accurate, will continue to adding comments later if I feel like it. I accidentally INTJed all over the place when first working for him, and basically everything I did was a HUGE mistake. I gave a bunch of innovative ideas, forgot details, called out a few times when I could've stayed (but I didn't feel good), and if I had KNOWN he was an ISTJ… omg, I would have changed SO much of my behaviors. Sorry for dumping this out here, it's helpful to write all of my things out.
I remember when I first met him and was trying to get a read on him, I kept wondering if he was like me or not. I kept seeing potential similarities (although I reeeally had to look since he doesn't emote), but I was so unsure. I even typed him INTJ for a few seconds.
As an INTJ woman who has been dating an ISTJ man, I can say without a doubt I have never felt more understood. Many of the compatibility things show that this pairing isn't great, but I don't understand why. Honestly it seems like we complete each other while also reading each other's minds. ❤
Congrats! The best advice that I can give you is to let your ISTJ know that your future plans or any change you consider or implement does not mean that anything is wrong. They tend to associate change with negativity and take it personally if you want change in the relationship. Hoping for the best for the both of you, my fellow INTJ Queen 👑
BTW, I did love an ISTJ... for 10 years. So much of what you said in your video was spot on. Here is my audio response: ruclips.net/video/nt_X1-yswA4/видео.html
I'm going to say this from observation , ive lived with an ISTJ for over 20 years , yes they like to organise. I have come to know many of them quite well. Not many people will like this but they in my experience from the several that I know, get very obsessive , are single minded , the females are very Co dependent . I have noted them to be manipulators and covert narcs , they don't wear their real faces, and seem to love conflict of the sneaky kind, they are far from loyal . The females like gossip too. These are INFJ observations, and I know ill get some hate. I have also noted that INTJs can be blinded to the negative aspects of ISTJs because they are getting overly drawn in by similarity because its so rare for the INTJ to find that so they overlook everything else which is quite prominent.
It always saddens me to hear negative stories about people engaging with other types. I can't speak for the ISTJs that you've met but I will say that there's a certain level of understanding between INTJs and ISTJs similar to INTJs and INFJs. An INFJs in my life is so into gossip that his nickname is TMZ, but he has never told anyone my secrets because of that understanding. It really comes down to Fi values and I hope that one day you meet an ISTJ that's healthy and was taught at a young age the value of independence ✊
I honestly think my biggest problem maybe that I see through a certain ISTJ , however the INTJ in both our lives seems to favour her despite the toxicity she doesn’t show him . Jealous me 🙈😟
Noooooo Elon Musk is INTP and Jeff Bezos ESTJ "outlasting, good things come to those who wait" see his early letters to shareholders of Amazon. "Long tail". When ESTJ's are happy they surface INFP behavior, they want to help the INTJ then. ISTJ and INTJ make an awkward team. My brother is ISTJ. I have an ISTJ in my business. It's tough but they bring accuracy and realism for the too farfetched ideas and rushed projects. If you look at Alex Hormozi saying every company needs someone who sells, someone who delivers and someone who keeps the first two out of jail - that's the ENTP/ENFP, the INTJ and the ISTJ (CPA/CFO). I'm going to start my own channel haha. And then people can agree to disagree and we both get views and get moneyz to buy more freedom
And the ISTJ, when you give them a platform, then they get ENFP'ish and want to help you so much. And start giving stuff to the INTJ. So for both ISTJ and ESTJ it is compatible with the INTJ when they're happy and the INTJ is in it's ego. But INTJ being all party hardy mode will not get the respect from either ISTJ or ESTJ. They're like "can you please act normal and responsible?" lol
brooooooo Elon Musk cannot be an INTP he is definately INTJ because he is a judging type , he has great scheduces , long term vision and organized stuff , Thats why he is a judging type and thats why he is INTJ not INTP
@@NFTBhaiya if you apply the 4 sides of the mind model he's INTP with unconsciously ENTJ which is that judging organized CEO side of him. A bit of a dark CEO with all the firing rounds. Grimes is INTJ.
Send me a link to your channel when it's created! Always happy to support another INTJ content creator. In regards to Musk and Bezo's MBTI, someone should just tweet them and ask 😂
One of the most underappreciated management types IMO. Drama-free, straight to the point, always willing to help you learn, and most importantly patient 🙂
INTJ: "wow he does boring menial tasks all day that must suck". ISTJ: "Wow he is constantly overthinking all the time, that must suck".
We can also view it on the flip side!
INTJ, "Wow, ISTJ enoys all the mential tasks that I hate doing so I can focus on my plans"
ISTJ, "Wow, INTJ is always making plans so I can focus on things I care about"
@@justcallmejon22 True
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@@justcallmejon22Man I Iove u
I'm an iNTJ woman, and my bf is an iSTJ. we worked together so well, even thou all the people around us keep saying we don't match each other. nahh they don't know. we are very complementary. i love him ❤
Congrats on the relationship and I hope the best for you two ❤
Due to my low Se, I didn't realize that I was wearing a ring on my left hand. I assure you that I am not married and if I was, I did not consent or know about it 🙃
LOL. Oops. Every ISTJ who stopped by to watch the video is now confused because that's how things are supposed to work.
🤣 Married... to yourself ! It's great too.
Haha😂 dat so funny Jon🤣 But are you sure? I remember you saying you didn't know you were in a relationship until U meet da girls family...😑 Maybe you forgot...😅
INTJ female here. Marriage is over-rated, and I'm married, heh.
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Good to hear this - my partner of 19 years is an ISTJ, I'm an INTJ, and we work together so well. He takes care of the details and I'm the vision/planning guy. We've worked out ways to check in about feelings in ways that work for us and don't make us want to puke. (smile) We know how to give each other privacy and time for our personal work. We run three businesses together make it work. And he does love those spreadsheets. He makes spreadsheets for recreational purposes. We pride ourselves on being problem-solvers. We do have to push each other to remember those romantic gestures, though, or we'll just fall out of the habit and lose the juicy bits.
Si doms and spreadsheets are so funny to witness. They act like it's an extension of themselves and will get overly protective of it 😂
I’m INTJ and my husband of 40 years is ISTJ. We share enough in common that is is good but the fact that we have different strengths is good too
ISTJs are absolutely not boring. I don’t know why the MBTI community says that ISTJs are boring dads. That’s just not true. Shared Te-Fi axis helps with connecting with one another. Gotta be one of my favourite types. They’re amazing when you talk to them.
Exactly! I can't explain how much I adore them 😁
I am INTJ and my ISTJ boyfriend is the most organized, kind, down-to-earth and stable person I've ever met. I feel so at ease around him. There is an understated gentleness to him under his serious demeanor which I absolutely adore.
I absolutely love when I get to work with an ISTJ because I can count on them to see the big picture I lay out, and then help with the fact checking to make sure I'm on the right path. Can it be frustrating at times? Absolutely, but mostly because as an INTJ the minutiae factors are usually the things I tend to be unconcerned about. Yet it's that care they put into the details that I also value as a fact check because if there is a small detail that changed and could potentially change the trajectory of a project or plan, they'll be the first to notice and call it out which I appreciate so much in the long run.
It really comes down to just building that trust between us. As an INTJ, when that trust is built up, I know if an ISTJ comes to me with a concern over a detail, it's worth looking into to make doubly sure it's not an issue. And for the ISTJ, just trust me when I tell you a pattern is in play and go with the flow because if I'm calling it out, it's most likely because the end result is almost certain based on previous patterns and data. 😆
That trust really is amazing to have between the two! We admire each other's Te so it's easy to trust that things will get done once we align on Ni and Si. The fact-checking gets annoying at times but I appreciate it, in an annoyed INTJ way 😂
My grandma is an istj and I am an intj so we connect way better than my other siblings. Whenever I am over and we want to watch a movie she would ask what I wanted to watch and I would give suggestions and ideas and then she would ask “do you want to each this movie” in response I would say something like “it’s a good movie but I don’t know.” As you said I am the most indecisive when it comes to choosing anything that would affect the group that’s not important. Thanks for the videos I love them all and I am loving watching you evolve as a RUclipsr with the many challenges and struggles it entails.
I always appreciate the support brotha! Mature ISTJs are honestly one of the best types to be around for an INTJ. They really are patient with us and I appreciate them taking care of our sensory needs 😀
As an ISTJ i found my female INTJ friend the best person ever
We feel the same ISTJ 🙂
To the INTJs out there, if you can get over the silly differences. You’ll realize ISTJs and ISTPs can make good friends- My experience.
Male ISTJ - T here, taking notes. Looking forward to date a female INTJ.
I like (tend) to send her descriptive messages how my day went, or what I am doing. She either sees this and says nothing, or responds with a short message.
In time, I hope to hear from her more. I may be sharing too much 🫠
Thank you for the informative video.
Congrats on finding an INTJ! Being descriptive about our day just isn't how we normally communicate. I bet she'd reply sooner or more often if you ask her thoughts on something that you read about rather than if you asked her how her day was...but that doesn't mean never ask her about her day 🙃
Been waiting for this video! Thanks for making one. Im a fan btw :) keep going!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! (I'm assuming you're an ISTJ), I'm not sure if I'm proud of this video so I might remake it at a later date because I feel like I missed a lot of info about our dynamics 🙃
are you either of the two? glad to see you here Kristel hello po !
I love your communication style/approach; you have the ability to embody the type or function that you are describing to expertly convey the differences and commonalities between them in ways that are tangible. Appreciate what you do! 🙂
Thank you for the compliment 😁
Im an INTJ and my mom is an ISTJ. So yes i love her. Most days.
Most days, lol 😅
You being an INTJ loving the ISTJs like you do is very similar to me as an INFJ loving the ISFJs as I do. We bond over our common middle functions whiles we can clash with the Ni/Si difference. The ISFJ I know, our dominant functions can clash but we are very respectful about it. We get along very well I must admit.
I swear I meet most INFJs from hanging out with ISFJs and I guess this explains why 😂
@@justcallmejon22 Ever notice the eyes of an ISFJ, they can run pretty deep I must admit. Also, I guess if I wanted to meet more INTJs I just need to hang out with ISTJs.
My papa is an istj. Love him so much! Thank you for this vid! Very informative :)
I'm happy to hear that you have a healthy relationship with your ISTJ father ❤
Great video as always.
When we talk about Te Fi or N informations we get along well, but when they try to impose their Si... INTJ not happy.
I think our reasoning is reversed, mainly ISTJ function by deduction and INTJ by induction (yep we are build in reverse 🤣)
INTJ ISTJ are very like children when we like something, especially with cute baby animals. That's why I find them so cute, adorable, vulnerable when they express their emotions.
What make ISTJ funny is their ENFP subconscious side.
You right, it's fun that Intuitives we are more friendly and social. N make us more soft and flexible, we adapt, we understand others. Ni compensate the lack of Fe.
Ni dom, we are weird but people have no reasons to don't like us.
I like boxes and containers too !
But i love deduction too..😢 if they're better at it, amazing
The subconcious side is entertaining but I prefer the Ego. It's comforting being around other Te users and I grew up around Si users so I have a strong appreciation for it 😁
@@justcallmejon22 My father was ISTJ. You made me realize that INTJ ISTJ we are extremely similar, same very deep feelings that we keep in the abyss, that we cannot really express or hardly (same biggest issue in life). Same desire for improvement, encouraging/support, practical solutions/advice. Like the INTJ, ISTJ when they have a goal in mind, they never give up.
You succeed, you hit my consciousness ^^ we are so used to, and better to find the differences, that we forgot to take time to see what make make us similar. ISTJ have potential to understand us in part.
I dated one and my closest friend/ employee was istj. I feel they understood me just as much as an infj would but in different way.
I also feel like ISTJs can understand INTJs in a way that most other types cant 😭
Speaking for myself and as an ISTJ I understood you just fine. Thanks for appreciating us since I usually see a lot of negative things about ISTJ/INTJ pairings. 😭😭
Thank you for accepting us the way we are and I personally believe this is one of the better pairings 🤗
I am an Intj on a relationship with an ISTJ and this is an accurate reflection of our dynamic.
Congrats on finding an ISTJ! Take care of your ISTJ partner, I really do miss mine 😭
@@justcallmejon22 thank you so much, I definitely will. I hope you find another! 💕
The container store is ISTJ heaven 😂. We are similar, I see myself in them, and sometimes I DO NOT see myself in them at all. DO Not tell an ISTJ “we’ll figure it out” 😂, good luck.
Can't tell by your comment whether you're INTJ or ISTJ but I love the comment regardless 😅
I’ve definitely had trouble figuring out which type I fall into, they do seem similar, but I suspect I’m INTJ. People will say ISTJ’s are “detail oriented”, which is confusing because I’m an analyst and have no choice but to be detail oriented. But…I always find shortcuts. I’ve had coworkers and managers who when checking their work would just line by line check every little thing manually, and that just hurts my soul. There is a systematic way to do that! Trust me, give me 2 hours and I’ll find it and save you so much time! That said, I’d be happy to let an ISTJ check my work, they’d probably do a better job of it.
The other thing is comfort. I do like comfort, I even escape to it. But when I have comfort in the absence of some form of improvement journey I get depressed. The best and worst times in my life are deeply tied to goals or lack thereof at the time. If there’s a type that’s just happy to be alive and live in the present, that’s what I’d rather be!
What you're describing is Extroverted Thinking and both the IxTJs have it in the same slot order. I think the easiest way to tell the difference between these two types is how comfortable you are with change. Ni doms seeks constant change (mentally, physically, spiritually) and will feel like we're dead if we dont get it. Si doms seek security (mentally, physically, spiritually) and will feel overwhelmed when they have to change too much in a short period of time or without proper preparation.
@@justcallmejon22 Thanks for the response!
INTJ: Would it kill you to say hi?
ISTJ: Why yes, it would.
I don’t bother with greetings anymore. 😂
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My husband the the test the other day and it came back as istj. Thank you Jon for making this video because my intj brain likes to do my research before I come to any conclusions😅
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Poor ISTJs have been told they're cold and boring their whole lives that they're masking their true selves in public a lot of the time.
There's a lot going on in there, they just got to trust you first 🙂
My Dearest Jon, you really got me with this video!! I really liked your comment about meeting INTJs and ISTJs through auxiliary-Te but getting to know us through tertiary-Fi. I tried to do an audio response to this ONE point (out of 13 that I liked) but needed to make two separate videos: 1a) Relating to my job and 1b) Relating it to my family. I will share the links below. Only listen if you have time.
Relating your comment to my job...
ruclips.net/video/15YWPE9ORZc/видео.html
Relating your comment to family (and intergenerational trauma)... ruclips.net/video/a42as4VmltM/видео.html
Your background looks aesthetic
Thank you 🙏
I was married to an ISTJ for 10 yrs. It’s love at first sight, we felt connection right away. He’s more expressive with his emotions than I. Only after a few years of our marriage I started to be more expressive with my emotions. He’s definitely not good at reading people when it comes to their motives. But he’s more social and better at engaging with people. He would always asked me how I knew things would happen this way or that way or why it happened at all. Then he calls me a psychic😂 But the time came when I outgrew him emotionally and Psychologically that I became his mother and saw him as a little child where his world is so small . At the end of our relationship, he told me that he no longer knows me and that I became a totally different person. I’ve always been obsessed with my self in becoming “nobody” vs the “somebody”. My goal is to master the self, and it has lead me to go against the grain. We are both TE users, we had an amicable divorce, no lawyer involved besides the court approving it. He even said to me that I handled it like a business transaction which kinda bothered him. We are still friends and talk to each other once in a while.
I'm saddened to hear that the relationship didn't work out but also happy to hear that you are both in contact with each other. I relate to your comment about wanting to become "nobody" because that'll allow us the freedom to grow and become "anybody" instead of a specific "somebody". Also, it makes me happy that I wasn't the only person who was instantly enamored by an ISTJ once in my life 🙂
I relate.
I was with an ISTJ for over 7 years, he was also better at handling people that I (but I think I understood them better than he did in general).
I grew, I too started feeling that "I became his mother and saw him as a little child where his world is so small". I made suggestions which he often took as directions to follow, instead of something to be discussed further as partners. It felt like I was supposed to be his manager.
I think the biggest issue was that he would often get so focused on the little details that he completely missed the big picture. For me, who sees the big picture first and worries about the details later, that was very frustrating...
Even with all the ways we were similar and compatible, this dynamic wasn't right for me anymore.
We are not completely done with the separation yet, but it's clear we will stay friends.
Women☕️
This post saddens me because it reinforces the idea I've had for a while that women see men only as utilities. The moment you didn't see that he provided more to the relationship than you did, you thought of him as a child and threw him away like a piece of garbage. With this kind of attitude (which I know most women have), you are unworthy of any man's commitment, because you will not honor it. Why should any man do anything nice for you if you will immediately end the relationship as soon as whatever benefit he has provided you has ended? I think also you probably just weren't aware of the things he did for you.
I am sympathetic to the idea that his world was smaller than yours, because I'm an INTJ male married to an ISTJ female. But I was able to accept this about her, and chose to pay attention instead to the fact that she does so many tangible good things for me, instead of focusing on the fact that she cannot follow where my heart and mind go.
@@brendangolledge8312 The bias that you have “ that women see men only as utilities” has clouded your judgement. First of all, my ex husband is not a piece of garbage, I have a lot of respect for him that if it weren’t for him I wouldn’t be where I am today. Even when he cheated on me multiple times during my pregnancy and had a miscarriage, never did I think of him as a piece of garbage. I forgave him over and over because I realized that he’s here as a teacher, to teach me forgiveness of others and forgiveness of the self. I am aware of everything he did for me big or small, I am hypersensitive to those things. We both realized that our relationship can no longer grow, we had a very long conversation and we decided to end our marriage. This is why the divorce was not dramatic like others do. We did not fight about properties or money, none of those at all like you see in typical divorce. So please stop making assumptions if you don’t know the full story.
Your ISTJ girlfriend is so beautiful, I bet she finds her ring very precious to her.
Ex-girlfriend, but yes, she was a muse that I adored 🙂
😂my husband, as an ISTJ, also LOVES containers…I often joke that his perfect job is working at a Muji
😂I’m an INTJ… couldn’t care less
Si is so interesting to be around 😂
I say, when istj asks for a plan, give em any obvious plan, let em fill in their details first and then meanwhile work on the real plan and update them about it later. Distract them with a temporary plan ig. Does that work?
The temporary plan can help you see the details while the istj fills you in
Agreed! Most of the issue arises when the ISTJ start engaging with Ne. At that point, it's a crapshoot how the conversation will go 🙃
Welcome back! 🎉
Thank you! Feels good to be back 😁
When will we see your take on the dynamics between INTJ and ISTP archetypes? I know you'll put a positive twist on it.
It's on the to-do list and of course it'll be positive! Some of my closest friends are ISTPs 😉
I'll go with the happier stuff first before getting into my commentary on ISTJs, just because it isn't good.
So in regards to the details versus the overarching plan, while both are important, and it's great to hammer out some details ahead of time, life is fluid. Sometimes the details don't exist yet. So we can't tell them. Sometimes we know generally what to expect. because of the pattern, but we can't do specifics yet because 1) the pattern may not hold true and 2) if it does, the details are going to be specific to this iteration.
So I think there's a balance in that details are important and there comes a point where they're necessary, but at a certain point, we have to get moving on our plan before the details are ready or we'll never get the ball rolling at all.
Now for my commentary on ISTJs. My mother is an ISTJ. I'm pretty sure my maternal grandmother whom I spent all my weekends with as a kid was an ISTJ. It was an abusive childhood.
1) I got treated like a little doll. My clothes had to conform to society's standards. This shouldn't be an issue right? I mean, it's normal to want your kids to look presentable and clean? Except for the pain. Knee highs were in style when I was a child. They were kept up with rubber bands around my legs. They hurt. But I had to look nice (Sensor, Sensor, Sensor). Cap sleeves were a thing in dresses. I was always a big child , and the sleeves cut off circulation in my arms. It hurt. But I had to look nice. My great grandmother, whom I suspect was an ENFJ or ENFP, eventually split the seams on my sleeves or would let me run around in a slip because my clothes would literally make me miserable. Oh, and the sweaters. The itchy itchy sweaters. And learning not to feel the cold on my legs in the winter by simply refusing to feel cold any more as a force of will because little girls wear tights and not pants on cold rubber car seats. And yanking my head around to brush my hair and put it up in intricate hair styles. Because I had to look nice. And popping all my pimples for me, slamming my head into the bathroom wall when I was listening to the dermatologist and not touching them. I eventually started clawing up my own face to make it stop.
It was a horror show. Probably aggravated by the fact that stressed ISTJs clean because the immediate environment bothers them a lot. Stressed INTJs lose the ability to care able things like cleanliness and cleaning our immediate environment. So the more she'd try to control me and make me clean, the more miserable I'd get and the less I'd be willing to do to care for myself. And that would set her off even more, and make me more miserable. There was a point in my life where I just went home and hid in the shadows in a corner in my room and did nothing because there was just no energy left and I couldn't care.
The ISTJs cared everything about my outward appearance and appearing perfect, and nothing for how utterly unhappy I was. That I was not a doll, but a human being with my own personality.
It was utterly miserable and controlling while outwardly it looked like I had the best of everything my family could afford.
And just no emotional support. My emotions didn't matter. The appearance of the family mattered. People say INTJs are robotic, but we have emotions and I was a very sad little girl who wasn't allowed to be sad. and a very angry little girl who didn't have any outlet for the anger. And even voicing it was not allowed. And if I didn't talk I was punished, too. Because conformity was the important thing. I can remember being eight or so with my grandma's dog lapping up my tears because I was crying and no one would comfort me. I was just abandoned because my emotions weren't important and did not conform to societal expectations. It's a good thing I liked animals because that was the only thing I had to meet my emotional needs. Cats and dogs cared the people in my life as a child rarely did.
Anyway, the whole ISTJ thing as good matches for INTJs always leads to me telling some version of my childhood because it was miserable. My sisters and I, all three of us were miserable and we still have PTSD and anxiety and depression. And my mother has never once realized that she did anything wrong. We looked perfect therefore we were perfect.
In business circumstances, it's a good match, I think. As you say the ISTJ is dependable, and we like dependable. But really close relationships can be awful. The ISTJ wants to control the environment and the INTJ in the environment will not be controlled.
Anyway, I know you've spoken before of having ISTJ girlfriends. And if that works for you, who am I to say you're wrong?
For me, that kind of thing is just a big no. I've been down that road, I know what it looks like, and the heat death of the universe will occur before I go back down that path.
Your life's journey has been long and hard for you and your sisters. I will not offer any sympathy because you do not seek it. But I can empathize with what you have shared. You and your sisters have come through the fires and have survived, and it has strengthened you in ways others will never understand. We decide how we live our lives, we have the power to break the constraints of chains that bind. Thank you for sharing your story with us.
As always, I always value your insights, and thank you for writing your story. It sounds like your family went through a lot and I hope you decided to break the cycle of abuse. I won't make comments about your family because I don't have the full picture of what happened but the ISTJ I used to date was and still is one of my favorite person. My ISTJ friends are amazing people as well and I think it comes down to their Fi, being raised similarly and having similar values. I hope you give other ISTJs a chance because humans really are a product of our environment so not all ISTJs will be as aggressive as the ones in your family. Hoping for the best for you!
I know this behaviour pattern as narcissistic personality disorder
Being an ISTJ 😭, I'm literally feeling bad!! These points I'll keep in mind and never ever force or tell or apply on anyone. I do tell a few things to my near & dear ones, but from now I'll make sure I'll hear from them 1stly , ask advice and then suggest them if they find good they can follow. No force from now on!
@@CommentThere In an effort to be helpful, I think the questions come down to are conformity and tradition the most important things?
Even I will answer yes to that question in some situations. But not every situation is about that. And they are not the most important things always.
You can't give kids no rules and sometimes you're going to be the bad guy.
You also can't help the way you cope (incessant cleaning/projects seem to be ISTJ comfort food, which is just the worst match for an INTJ also coping with something.) You have your own feelings and have a right to cope with bad times. Just with this warning in mind, try not to poke the INTJ.
My mom, specifically, had an idea of an ideal family because her own wasn't perfect. She was an only child of a mother who divorced before she was born due to abuse. She wanted a large family and didn't know how to manage it. Pretty much everything she could do to stoke sibling rivalry, she did. She wanted to keep up with the Joneses and it never worked out for her, and it made us all unhappy.
This is a fun series! May I request the INTJ and ESTJ please?
They're a fun toy to have sex with once when boredom sets in
That video will be here soon 😁
I'm an ISTJ girl, and I like the strategic thinking of INTJ people. They're really good chess opponents. I usually get mistyped as an INTJ because I have a few of your qualities, but no way am I one. At least you guys are way better than ENFPs (in my perspective).
And you were right about the container shop.
What about the container shop excites you?!
@@justcallmejon22 Bro literally everything
Well on the loyalty thing, my experience with myself (INTJ) and one of my best friends (ISTJ) is that she the ISTJ is very loyal and duty based (Si & Fi) while I the INTJ get very attached (Ni & Fi). Like her understanding of our friendship is based around previous experiences together and how people normally should behave in friendships plus som warm Fi feelings sprinkled in. While my understanding is more like embedded into my understanding of myself and her plus some Fi feelings, so for me to not consider her a friend anymore would take my whole understanding of myself and her to be changed, which can be quite difficult, hence the attachment.
That's a great way of putting it. Si is similar to Ni as it's our framework system so I'm sure the ISTJ will feel something to a similar degree if things were to change. Either way, ISTJs are great 😁
My best friend, INTJ, was my crush in 4-6 grade. In our late 50s we found each other online. As we chatted and got to know each other, he said he'd never known anyone who "got him" like I do!
Please tell me there's a happy ending to this story?! 😁
Im an Autistic INTJ with a neurotypical ISTJ and our relationship has always been miscommunication after miscommunication. I dont know if being autistic changes things, but he just...doesnt like me.
Then why is your ISTJ with you if he doesn't like you?
That's a hard question to answer. I do not know.
It would be interesting to see a video on this particular topic.
Insightful! I am an INTJ and I have gained interest in knowing about ISTJs. I definitely don't gel at all with the ESTJ, but I have observed that the ISTJs are actually very different and more to my liking.
Mature ESTJs are great to work with but I agree that I tend to gravitate easier to Introverts 😆
Mbti is confusing me because I dont know if I'm Intj or Istj. Multiple tests told me intj even though I dont use my Intuition every time and just process what people say as it is (sometimes I ask what they mean, but still). Sarcasm can lead to most misunderstanding because of it. These tests put me into an identity crisis. Asking myself who I goddamn am
Another thing google tells me is that the biggest difference is using their imagination for the future as intj and only using the facts as istj. But I do them both 50/50 so this confuses me.
Been there my friend and what helped me find out my type was looking into cognitive functions. INTJs lead with Ni and ISTJs lead with Si and I knew I was an INTJ because I don't understand Si much. Goodluck on your journey!
I’m an ENFP & totally get what your saying. ISTJ bf and INTJ + NT family
That sounds like a fun group to me 😂
Wow - there’s something so shady about the best part of that person being she loves to be tidy 😂
I, an intj, am married to an ISTJ. Everything you said is accurate.
Sounds like an efficient marriage 😁.
It is, we even married within 10 months from the day we met.
I'm a big fan of the videos and my intention is not to hate here. Seriously your videos have helped me to understand myself a lot more and I respect you as a person; I simply want to share my thoughts.
Based on the patterns in your previous videos discussing compatibilities with the different types, this one seems made up. There was only one brief example used and the rest was vague explanations. I understand speaking in abstract because I do it too but this one was a bit excessive. The other videos got at least slightly personal. This leads me to the conclusion that it's a made up story to add to the series of friendship and relationship compatibility. I had a feeling before but this specific video made it difficult to ignore. I am guessing you have never been as close with an ISTJ as you have with other types, which would make perfect sense as introverted as we are.
Again I want to say no hate is intended here since tone and body language cannot be conveyed in text.
Also if my comment seems unnecessarily mean, please delete it. If you want to rip me apart, please do that.
Dude, I'm not going to remove a comment just because of a disagreement lol. The point of this channel is for tough discussions to arrive at a mutual understanding and I appreciate all constructive criticism! I understand where you're coming from and I agree that it's not as in-depth as my videos of other types. A lot of factors were in play such as limited time for recording before the kids get home from school, being out of practice, etc. I assure you that I have a few close ISTJ friends that I've known for decades and I dated the ISTJ for a few years. With that said, I'm not going to get emotional talking about T types, ain't no T's want to get emotional watching a video 😂
agree with the whole planning thing, badly needing to know the steps before things commence haha (ref. 8:40), I wouldn't let go of the "how" questions until I get answers or get to answer them myself. ISTJ.
You're killing us ISTJ 😂
I make short term decisions as ISTJ and long term decisions as INTJ. Who am I?
This question sounds like a riddle 😅
My teacher is an ISTJ and I'm an INTJ
But we get in sever fights 😂
C's get degrees 🙂
I actually thought that I'm an ISTJ , initially 😂
I thought I was INTP 😂
Guess I gotta meet an ISTJ.
I hope you do! If anything, they're dependable allies for an INTJ 😀
+@@justcallmejon22 I just realized that my boss is an ISTJ.. lol, on a rewatch now because of it. I'm realizing 0:30 is so accurate, will continue to adding comments later if I feel like it. I accidentally INTJed all over the place when first working for him, and basically everything I did was a HUGE mistake. I gave a bunch of innovative ideas, forgot details, called out a few times when I could've stayed (but I didn't feel good), and if I had KNOWN he was an ISTJ… omg, I would have changed SO much of my behaviors.
Sorry for dumping this out here, it's helpful to write all of my things out.
I remember when I first met him and was trying to get a read on him, I kept wondering if he was like me or not. I kept seeing potential similarities (although I reeeally had to look since he doesn't emote), but I was so unsure. I even typed him INTJ for a few seconds.
Update: Worst idea ever.
As an INTJ woman who has been dating an ISTJ man, I can say without a doubt I have never felt more understood.
Many of the compatibility things show that this pairing isn't great, but I don't understand why. Honestly it seems like we complete each other while also reading each other's minds. ❤
I can't agree more! Nothing is more beautiful than Te & Fi aligning 😁
INTJ here seeing an ISTJ man atm. ☺️
Congrats! The best advice that I can give you is to let your ISTJ know that your future plans or any change you consider or implement does not mean that anything is wrong. They tend to associate change with negativity and take it personally if you want change in the relationship. Hoping for the best for the both of you, my fellow INTJ Queen 👑
Will it be possible to look into the dynamics of a isfp and intj interaction?
Yup! That's on my list of upcoming videos 🙂
Can you explain subtypes
That topic is on my to-do list 🙃
ISTJ married to an INTJ
0:02 bruh no way you really think Elon Musk is INTJ 💀
I went over my reasons why I think he's an INTJ in another video but I swear we should just tweet him and ask 😂
@@justcallmejon22 this guy is clearly ENTp. The only other type worth arguing would be ENTj.
@@VatIva He's more likely to be an INTP imho...
BTW, I did love an ISTJ... for 10 years. So much of what you said in your video was spot on. Here is my audio response: ruclips.net/video/nt_X1-yswA4/видео.html
Sensor types complain too much
I heard them say the same about me and my intuitiveness complaining about nonsense 😂
I'm going to say this from observation , ive lived with an ISTJ for over 20 years , yes they like to organise. I have come to know many of them quite well. Not many people will like this but they in my experience from the several that I know, get very obsessive , are single minded , the females are very Co dependent . I have noted them to be manipulators and covert narcs , they don't wear their real faces, and seem to love conflict of the sneaky kind, they are far from loyal . The females like gossip too. These are INFJ observations, and I know ill get some hate. I have also noted that INTJs can be blinded to the negative aspects of ISTJs because they are getting overly drawn in by similarity because its so rare for the INTJ to find that so they overlook everything else which is quite prominent.
It always saddens me to hear negative stories about people engaging with other types. I can't speak for the ISTJs that you've met but I will say that there's a certain level of understanding between INTJs and ISTJs similar to INTJs and INFJs. An INFJs in my life is so into gossip that his nickname is TMZ, but he has never told anyone my secrets because of that understanding. It really comes down to Fi values and I hope that one day you meet an ISTJ that's healthy and was taught at a young age the value of independence ✊
I honestly think my biggest problem maybe that I see through a certain ISTJ , however the INTJ in both our lives seems to favour her despite the toxicity she doesn’t show him . Jealous me 🙈😟
Noooooo Elon Musk is INTP and Jeff Bezos ESTJ "outlasting, good things come to those who wait" see his early letters to shareholders of Amazon. "Long tail".
When ESTJ's are happy they surface INFP behavior, they want to help the INTJ then.
ISTJ and INTJ make an awkward team. My brother is ISTJ. I have an ISTJ in my business. It's tough but they bring accuracy and realism for the too farfetched ideas and rushed projects.
If you look at Alex Hormozi saying every company needs someone who sells, someone who delivers and someone who keeps the first two out of jail - that's the ENTP/ENFP, the INTJ and the ISTJ (CPA/CFO).
I'm going to start my own channel haha. And then people can agree to disagree and we both get views and get moneyz to buy more freedom
And the ISTJ, when you give them a platform, then they get ENFP'ish and want to help you so much. And start giving stuff to the INTJ.
So for both ISTJ and ESTJ it is compatible with the INTJ when they're happy and the INTJ is in it's ego.
But INTJ being all party hardy mode will not get the respect from either ISTJ or ESTJ. They're like "can you please act normal and responsible?" lol
brooooooo Elon Musk cannot be an INTP he is definately INTJ because he is a judging type , he has great scheduces , long term vision and organized stuff , Thats why he is a judging type and thats why he is INTJ not INTP
@@NFTBhaiya if you apply the 4 sides of the mind model he's INTP with unconsciously ENTJ which is that judging organized CEO side of him. A bit of a dark CEO with all the firing rounds. Grimes is INTJ.
Send me a link to your channel when it's created! Always happy to support another INTJ content creator. In regards to Musk and Bezo's MBTI, someone should just tweet them and ask 😂
@@justcallmejon22 Point! I believe they did that with Ray Dalio as well and then they he built his own personality type test 🤣
My manager is an istj and he's the best I could work for ❤❤
One of the most underappreciated management types IMO. Drama-free, straight to the point, always willing to help you learn, and most importantly patient 🙂