The World's Best Main Battle Tank? The Leopard 2 | Forged for Battle

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    In the previous episode we discussed the development of America's current main battle tank, the M1 Abrams. Though many tout that tank as the best in the world its European counterparts often offer stiff competition. One particular rival has been vying to knock the American contender out of the scene even before the US accepted the Abrams for service. That tank is the German manufactured Leopard 2. In this video we will cross the Atlantic in order to learn the story behind this feline and discover why to many it is considered to be the best modern tank in the world.
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  • @ConeOfArc
    @ConeOfArc  3 года назад +182

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    • @picklr3893
      @picklr3893 3 года назад +1

      Les gooooo

    • @brisanh
      @brisanh 3 года назад

      unga bunga

    • @Juno101
      @Juno101 3 года назад

      NO, not a highly evolved MBT, he's comming for my Computer!
      You can't trust the M B T, always have your ICBM ready!
      Just in case.

    • @bobtank6318
      @bobtank6318 3 года назад +1

      @@Juno101 Don’t worry, your PC should be safe if you use the Kontakt-5 armor recommended by Bosnian Ape Society.

    • @whya2ndaccount
      @whya2ndaccount 3 года назад

      I appreciate you need to make a living, but I'm afraid War Chunder, Waste of Time and this 3rd product are all way too gamey for me. So thanks anyway but someone else can use my code.

  • @deadliftalot
    @deadliftalot 3 года назад +1192

    Leopard 2 : I am the best !
    T-14 Armata : No I am !
    Bob semple : amateurs

    • @simpleknight1922
      @simpleknight1922 3 года назад +65

      Ever wondered where did the tank go?? They had to destroy it as it was changing the time and space around it.

    • @simbadooo9055
      @simbadooo9055 3 года назад +31

      @@simpleknight1922 In New Zealand we have tons of them in museums, you can find some in wanaka. (Bob Semple)

    • @C4Cole05
      @C4Cole05 3 года назад +9

      Arjun bouta roll up on the Bob Semple and destroy it with supreme [INDIA WORLD SUPERPOWER 2020] power

    • @mouhibgh6928
      @mouhibgh6928 3 года назад +29

      @@C4Cole05 no indias tanks will run in fear from the bob semple

    • @scjvz04d5
      @scjvz04d5 3 года назад +15

      @@mouhibgh6928 all tanks will

  • @pancake4061
    @pancake4061 3 года назад +852

    Everyone knows that the Bob Semple is the best tank, because with its rate of fire, it can deliver the first shot in any engagement, only ever failing to deliver the last.

    • @finnishboo4192
      @finnishboo4192 3 года назад +31

      Dont know what the rate of fire has anything to do whit the first shot but this was a meme comment so yeah

    • @BIOSHOCKFOXX
      @BIOSHOCKFOXX 3 года назад +8

      You can deliver any shot you want...but will the shot go through, now that's your issue :P

    • @pancake4061
      @pancake4061 3 года назад +41

      @@BIOSHOCKFOXX Hopefully, enemy tank crews will just piss themselves in fear after beholding the beast that is the Bob Semple tank.

    • @beaverchicken
      @beaverchicken 3 года назад +16

      @@finnishboo4192 it does when it has high caliber Bren guns, capable of piercing the thickest tank armours, like the IS-3 or Jadgtiger. The fast fire rate with an armour penetration of 689mm or armour, combined with the sturdiest construction and incredibly reliable engine and transmission systems, it's a damn blessing they were never put into production, even with a single squadron of semples an entire country could be invaded in days. Today, a Semple would have no difficulty taking out an Abrams, Challenger III, T-90 or Leopard 2.

    • @simula152
      @simula152 2 года назад

      @@finnishboo4192 ah boo, it's a you.

  • @ProtoFinn
    @ProtoFinn 3 года назад +717

    These are history lessons on steroids

  • @AlreadyTakenTag
    @AlreadyTakenTag 3 года назад +1500

    The name of the video: "The World's best main battle tank, the Leopard 2"
    (insert angry american patriot typing furiously here)

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 3 года назад +192

      Well The leopard 2 doesn't deserve the title no tank does because tanks are built for the doctrine of their armies and what about tanks like the K2 Black panther or the type 10 nekomada you'd have to dismiss both those as inferior to The leopard 2

    • @AlreadyTakenTag
      @AlreadyTakenTag 3 года назад +35

      @@spartanx9293 yep. I think that way too.

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 3 года назад +38

      @Tendors World but that's not what he said he said it was the best not one of the best of course the leopard 2 gets put in the one of the best list but it shares that spot with modern versions of the Abrams the Japanese type 10 the K2 Black panther the t14 Armata and possibly that new rh130 challenger

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 года назад +26

      The leo is so good the swiss army uses it.

    • @ernstbusch179
      @ernstbusch179 3 года назад +4

      @@davidty2006 why the Swiss?

  • @jimmytheshadowleviathan7243
    @jimmytheshadowleviathan7243 3 года назад +706

    I may not be first,
    I may not be last,
    But when coneofarc uploads,
    I click *fast*
    (Even if it still hasn’t premiered yet)

    • @TGentong
      @TGentong 3 года назад +1

      1 month comment with no replies? That’s weird

    • @oter1237
      @oter1237 2 года назад

      @@TGentong 😀

  • @targapantera3330
    @targapantera3330 3 года назад +128

    Oh no....cone....theres gonna be a fire in the comment section after this one

    • @dabelli3818
      @dabelli3818 3 года назад +15

      You are the best tank in the world, although I'm not sure you could beat the Bob Semple tank

    • @kousand9917
      @kousand9917 3 года назад +3

      @Moritz der Echte usoaians? you mean Freeaboos?

    • @Nyctophiliac.
      @Nyctophiliac. 3 года назад +4

      @@kousand9917 obeseaboos

  • @PlayTVwels
    @PlayTVwels 3 года назад +133

    I was in my military time in Austria a Leopard 2a4 mechanic. Wonderful machine

    • @aburntnugget
      @aburntnugget 3 года назад +8

      Sehr schön 🤩

    • @ROBERTN-ut2il
      @ROBERTN-ut2il Год назад +1

      No betrter than any other tank of its generation

    • @OneofInfinity.
      @OneofInfinity. Год назад

      Agreed, former gunner on A4 and later A5.

    • @shocknaw
      @shocknaw 7 месяцев назад

      @@ROBERTN-ut2il it was better, but it still had its problems

    • @gendutmatthew2966
      @gendutmatthew2966 21 день назад

      ​@@OneofInfinity.My dad was a former driver on the leopard he said it was very obedient to the driver and thank you for you service:D

  • @anm10wolvorinenotapanther32
    @anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 3 года назад +307

    *Next Episode:*
    The Universe's Best Battle Tank, the Bob Semple Tank | Forged for Battle

    • @thesmuggest6680
      @thesmuggest6680 3 года назад +7

      Imho it's the Panthers that disguised as M10s in the bulge is the best

    • @NotFrank420
      @NotFrank420 3 года назад +2

      @@thesmuggest6680 no

    • @kousand9917
      @kousand9917 3 года назад +10

      @@thesmuggest6680 the gods look down upon anyone that doesnt pray to the bob semple

    • @phil3114
      @phil3114 2 года назад +1

      Ha! Arjun wants a talk with you

  • @battlefields2mine
    @battlefields2mine 3 года назад +244

    I got World of tanks ads over your Armor warfare sponsored video. lmao
    love your vid since the find of panzer.

    • @smokyblackeyes3615
      @smokyblackeyes3615 3 года назад +17

      ah yes, while they are at war. War Thunder sitting back relaxing.

    • @Kevin-fj5oe
      @Kevin-fj5oe 3 года назад +3

      Man, i can't even get a match at AW

    • @katyusha1283
      @katyusha1283 3 года назад +2

      @@Kevin-fj5oe Heay PvP is pretty much dead. Everybody plays PvE.

    • @deeperthantheabyss624
      @deeperthantheabyss624 3 года назад +5

      Is it me or are German Tanks in WOT are nerfed like Over Nerfed

    • @katyusha1283
      @katyusha1283 3 года назад +1

      @@deeperthantheabyss624 It's just you probably. Although they're not the best, they're still ok.

  • @pkt0827
    @pkt0827 3 года назад +152

    ah yes, one of my favorite MBT

  • @gOtze1337
    @gOtze1337 2 года назад +84

    probably another major selling factor of the Leopard 2 was/is, that it is in comparison to other MBT's very reliable and "easy" to maintain.

    • @OpenGL4ever
      @OpenGL4ever Год назад +14

      A key selling point is that the Leopard 2 passed the beer test.

    • @stemill1569
      @stemill1569 Год назад +4

      Except you are German Bundeswehr. Not even half of the tanks are functional.

    • @k_ir3868
      @k_ir3868 Год назад

      You aren't wrong and I said this in another post too but the thing with Germany is they don't need a big army. What they need is a little effective force cabable of defending their country and they have that in the Bundeswehr even though they are underfunded.

    • @ROBERTN-ut2il
      @ROBERTN-ut2il Год назад

      @@k_ir3868 They can't defend themselves

    • @ROBERTN-ut2il
      @ROBERTN-ut2il Год назад

      It's also cheap

  • @polarjet1833
    @polarjet1833 3 года назад +288

    Ooh, finally, one of my favorite damn tanks, the leopard

  • @jonathan_0
    @jonathan_0 3 года назад +508

    fanboys: bUt (insert MBT of choice) iS tHe BeSt TaNk In ThE wOrLd

    • @kusajko3644
      @kusajko3644 3 года назад +78

      You mean the wehraboos doing exact thing with Leo 2?

    • @dukeradwardthe5th843
      @dukeradwardthe5th843 3 года назад +5

      perhaps 🐄

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 3 года назад +56

      Incorrect the best mbt doesn't exist

    • @meddlus2098
      @meddlus2098 3 года назад +63

      @@kusajko3644 doesnt even have anything to do with wehraboos

    • @kusajko3644
      @kusajko3644 3 года назад +34

      @@meddlus2098 in some part it does. In some other parts it has to do with people who think that no matter what Germans touch they do that better than others. It's not true and it's a stupid stereotype.

  • @sinisterthoughts2896
    @sinisterthoughts2896 3 года назад +55

    I knew the leopard 2 was a contemporary of the Abrams, but it's nice to see the details laid out. Superior targeting speed is indeed one of the most decisive factors when determining viability. In my opinion, your argument is built on a strong foundation.

    • @AweShiyte
      @AweShiyte 11 месяцев назад

      Is it though? ruclips.net/video/7gSiRZNtI-A/видео.html

    • @petertrebilcock719
      @petertrebilcock719 8 месяцев назад +1

      The speed was because the germans didn't put the composite armor on because they fell behind and didn't tell the testers and the FCS was made by texas instruments

  • @classicforreal
    @classicforreal 3 года назад +139

    I would love a deeper dive into Leo2K and earlier prototypes and a closer analysis as to why they’re cursed by design in, well, Cursed by Design

    • @user-nd9jp2lj2r
      @user-nd9jp2lj2r 2 года назад +3

      Yes, the Leopard 2 prototype programm with all its different iterations is a really interesting subject in my opinion as well

    • @doogustrog
      @doogustrog Год назад

      @@user-nd9jp2lj2r Especially the 20mm version that’s in WT

  • @pussdesutroyer9481
    @pussdesutroyer9481 3 года назад +182

    world best MBT leopard 2
    Bob Semple "care to correct yourself."

    • @AlreadyTakenTag
      @AlreadyTakenTag 3 года назад +31

      Agreed. The only reason why countries don't use tanks as powerful as the bob semple is because [redacted] there are no words in the english language that could possibly explain it's true power.

    • @goose_memes
      @goose_memes 3 года назад +1

      @@diegomoreno7760 Care to elaborate?
      I'm not saying its the best,no tank is.
      They are built for their armies doctrine,besides the point anyways.

    • @highjumpstudios2384
      @highjumpstudios2384 3 года назад +5

      Shit you’re right, we forgot about the bob semple! Capable of a top speed of [redacted] and sporting armor capable of taking shells of [redacted] calibers with no damage!

    • @submarinoflotador4532
      @submarinoflotador4532 3 года назад +11

      The Bob Semple is not a Main Battle Tank
      It's his own army, navy and air force in just one vehicle.

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle 3 года назад +12

      Bob Semple is banned by the geneva suggestion

  • @jamesharding3459
    @jamesharding3459 3 года назад +137

    Cone: Declares Leopard II to be the best MBT
    Every American subscriber: **prepares to liberate comments section**

    • @fabianmichaelgockner5988
      @fabianmichaelgockner5988 3 года назад +20

      Also Americans: *find's out their Abrams were influenced by the Leopard Development* "Wat."

    • @DefinitelyNotEmma
      @DefinitelyNotEmma 3 года назад +16

      I literally never heard anyone referring to the M1 as the best tank. It's mostly between the Leopard 2A7 and T-90M when you ask someone here in europe.
      I might add though, that every modern MBT is incredible and that differences mostly exist on paper in numbers, not so much in reality. In reality a T-90, Leo 2 or M1 all can do what the other can and can't do what the others also can't do.

    • @jamesharding3459
      @jamesharding3459 3 года назад +19

      @@fabianmichaelgockner5988 Considering they both evolved from the MBT-70 project, that's even less surprising than the sunrise every morning.

    • @franciscofranco4520
      @franciscofranco4520 3 года назад +4

      Because the Leopard II hasn't ever been in combat.

    • @fabianmichaelgockner5988
      @fabianmichaelgockner5988 3 года назад +4

      @@franciscofranco4520 say that to the soldiers who drove in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

  • @EvoSwatch
    @EvoSwatch 3 года назад +52

    14:12 Indonesia, an archipelagic nation operates Leopard 2 too. Leopard 2 availability makes it popular.

    • @chechenfeels
      @chechenfeels 3 года назад +5

      Doesnt indonesia got their own armor package for 2a4 versions?

    • @baronentertainment362
      @baronentertainment362 3 года назад +10

      @@chechenfeels most likely, a lot of nations domestically upgrade imported armor to better fit their standards

    • @chechenfeels
      @chechenfeels 3 года назад +3

      @@baronentertainment362 Ye like sweden but i think what indonesia got was made by rheinmetall just like the Singapor Army

    • @muhammadabiyyuhakim863
      @muhammadabiyyuhakim863 3 года назад

      Yes!

    • @whya2ndaccount
      @whya2ndaccount 3 года назад

      @@chechenfeels Yep just like Singapore.

  • @BiggisDickis
    @BiggisDickis 3 года назад +66

    If it takes less than 3 hours to repair its tracks, it checks off in my books.

    • @janburja6890
      @janburja6890 3 года назад +16

      @@cmdr4589 at least the pfp is on time

    • @primal_guy1526
      @primal_guy1526 3 года назад +13

      *visible confusion*

    • @vorosgellert5606
      @vorosgellert5606 3 года назад +3

      Your pfp is confusing me

    • @stalker5299
      @stalker5299 3 года назад +15

      @@vorosgellert5606 what y'all saying Joe Trump isn't the president? I've been lied to

    • @vorosgellert5606
      @vorosgellert5606 3 года назад +19

      @@stalker5299 no its actually Donald Biden

  • @Poobtato
    @Poobtato 2 года назад +6

    Its been 11 months and I'd like to enquire, WHAT HAPPENED TO PART 2 OF THIS VIDEO?

  • @prussiancatboy3815
    @prussiancatboy3815 3 года назад +50

    Hey, I bought your panzer of the lake sticker. I absolutely love it, I haven’t found a place for it yet however.

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  3 года назад +17

      Haven't found a place for mine yet either

    • @tonkinspoce6949
      @tonkinspoce6949 3 года назад +19

      Put it in a lake

  • @mrsteamie4196
    @mrsteamie4196 3 года назад +26

    Daaaang man that voiceover at the start! Good deal!

  • @karlkennedy4083
    @karlkennedy4083 2 года назад +4

    Man the production quality of these videos are amazing. Great content.

  • @panzerofthelake506
    @panzerofthelake506 3 года назад +91

    Did you get the sabaton's female narrator to do the intro?

    • @atv123
      @atv123 3 года назад +18

      Oh panzer of the lake, what is your wisdom?

    • @synchronizeddissonance6243
      @synchronizeddissonance6243 3 года назад +11

      @@atv123 don't use tiny barges for your tanks

    • @nitatondre2611
      @nitatondre2611 3 года назад

      @@atv123 use your enemies anti tank gun to test your tank armour

    • @mouhibgh6928
      @mouhibgh6928 3 года назад

      @@atv123 do not stan near the bomb

    • @ActiveChildGunner87
      @ActiveChildGunner87 2 года назад

      Oh panzer of the lake, what is your wisdom?

  • @jamesfra1311
    @jamesfra1311 3 года назад +14

    Hell yeah I'm so looking foward to this!

  • @pzakp311
    @pzakp311 3 года назад +2

    Nice Intro of my old service vehicle. Well researched, pointing out the major points to know about its development.

  • @tonk5242
    @tonk5242 Год назад +8

    I have questions: if the leopard 2 is so good, then why most of the ammunition is located on the front

    • @lbr2845
      @lbr2845 7 месяцев назад

      because composites duh uh

  • @cob-son
    @cob-son 3 года назад +13

    Tiger, Panther, Leopard. The three big cats.

    • @anm10wolvorinenotapanther32
      @anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 3 года назад +14

      The difference is, 2 of the 3 mentioned tanks are over-glorified pieces of scrap metal

    • @jaisjsdnhsiddhej1300
      @jaisjsdnhsiddhej1300 3 года назад +3

      @@anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 I agree. Bigger always doesn’t mean better

    • @bemular5719
      @bemular5719 3 года назад +1

      At least they are cat

    • @jaisjsdnhsiddhej1300
      @jaisjsdnhsiddhej1300 3 года назад +4

      @Tendors World the panther broke down often due to its final drive issue but It was surely better than the tiger

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 3 года назад

      You want to know something they all have in common a shortage of parts

  • @msdos32
    @msdos32 3 года назад +5

    Right on, first to be aware of the enemy and make an acquisition has control of the fight and will likely win, tanks or otherwise, and the Leopard’s situational awareness equipment is stellar.

  • @keithbohon2438
    @keithbohon2438 3 года назад +7

    Great video that covers all the details that I have always wanted to know. Thank you for your hard work, and research, I can't wait for part 2.

  • @bassmith448bassist5
    @bassmith448bassist5 3 года назад

    Tanks for posting!!! Great video!!!

  • @vincem9468
    @vincem9468 3 года назад +43

    God damn the t 64 was so a head of its time.

    • @vincem9468
      @vincem9468 3 года назад +17

      @Pommy Pie Fact of the matter is that the t 64 was literally being produced before the first leopard 1 was made. A decade later they had the t80 and other upgrades of the t72 which were also ahead of there time.

    • @vincem9468
      @vincem9468 3 года назад +15

      @Pommy Pie Never said the 80s. t72s and t80s were all made in the 70s, thats why I said a decade later not two... If the soviet union had the funds they probably would have continued makes amazing tanks. That being said I would still rather be in a t72 or t80 over a m60a3.

    • @kousand9917
      @kousand9917 3 года назад +3

      Bob Semple was ahead of its time

    • @JamesVDBosch
      @JamesVDBosch 3 года назад +3

      @Pommy Pie T-64 was introduced at around 1963-'64, a decade later it would've seen Chieftain Mk5's, Leopard 1A2's and M60A2's.
      It's still by far the most capable, especially given that the T-64B was right around the corner and it'd already been upgraded to the T-64A standard in 1968.

    • @matthewjones39
      @matthewjones39 2 месяца назад

      Unfortunately for the T64, it is no longer it’s time.

  • @Bane_Diesel
    @Bane_Diesel 3 года назад +25

    Hey I plan on visiting 2-3 different tank museums in the USA this summer. Would you want any b roll on any specific tanks?

    • @ConeOfArc
      @ConeOfArc  3 года назад +14

      I can always use more footage of tanks but I plan to get much more myself once I can travel more. Anything rare or unique is always useful though

  • @annikatchand9911
    @annikatchand9911 3 года назад +3

    This was sooo damn interesting and educational to watch!!! Damn thanks mahn enjoyed it a lot!!

  • @tonyjedioftheforest1364
    @tonyjedioftheforest1364 3 года назад

    Very informative video thank you for sharing.

  • @Rob-er6ip
    @Rob-er6ip 3 года назад +27

    LEAPORD YASSSS

  • @fizzgigmalmy2567
    @fizzgigmalmy2567 8 месяцев назад +5

    Well this aged well😅

  • @jurkoskvarka2154
    @jurkoskvarka2154 3 года назад +2

    great video as always

  • @lombardmordesian
    @lombardmordesian 3 года назад +23

    As always great video with lots of Great stuff.
    Thanks for your work Cone!
    By the way, I love European tanks and in particular the leopard 2! About European tanks, are you going to make a video about the Ariete tank and the Leclerc tank?
    Thank you again!

  • @endeyfire
    @endeyfire 3 года назад +21

    nice intro man

  • @Crendermin
    @Crendermin 3 года назад +70

    While I agree the Leopard does outmatch the Abrams in many regards, there is a slight difficulty in trying to compare the two MBT's, the reason for this difficulty is due to the nature of necessity, at the time that the Abrams was being developed, there was a very noticeable need for armor and crew protection due to the M60 being a very outdated tank. I personally feel that in order to give the tanks a proper comparison, you would need to find why they set the certain requirements for the tank. If I remember correctly, you listed the full list of criteria's in the previous video, but these are the ones that I noticed stuck out.
    At least from what I have gathered, the US wanted 3 things that heavily weighed the outcome-
    Crew Protection, because it doesn't matter how good the tank is if the crew can't stay alive.
    Cost, in order to roll out 'X' number of tanks needed, they needed to meet a certain price criteria otherwise, it also makes it easier to promote the manufacturing of the equipment as it provides additional in-state jobs, thus gaining more support of the people, senate, press, ect.
    And lastly, a noticeable upgrade in overall protection against weapons such as depleted uranium shells, tungsten-core shells, RPG-7's, IEDs and landmines; all while still having enough mobility to react to given situations of war.
    I do agree that the first shot will likely determine the battle, but that was probably one of the reasons there was a focus for armoring the Abrams up so much, this way even a lesser skilled crew could survive a direct hit and react to contact accordingly. Obviously this is all personal opinion based on what I've read and learned so take it all with a grain of salt.

    • @justv7536
      @justv7536 3 года назад +1

      Shut it libby
      /s

    • @bambihall169
      @bambihall169 3 года назад +6

      They forget tanks are not what win wars, and a F-15 or 18 can turn a tank into a pile of scrap so the Leo kinda sucks in that regard, you have to remember in war America can play both speed and Attrition

    • @MatthewChenault
      @MatthewChenault 3 года назад +16

      Also, many Leopard 2 fans overlook that the Leopard 2 still retains the same issue with ammunition storage being at the front of the vehicle. A lucky shot in the front or at the left side can easily send the entire tank erupting in a massive explosion, which is far more likely to kill the crew than something like a fuel tank fire.
      The M1’s fire issue is an easier system to overcome, since, even if one starts, it’s relatively easy to get out of the tank and, most important of all, the ammunition can be ejected to prevent total loss of the vehicle and its crew.

    • @justv7536
      @justv7536 3 года назад +24

      @@bambihall169 Tanks do win Wars, that's something everyone forgets, yes a plane or a helicopter can just destroy a tank but everything has counters.
      "Oh, they forget that their planes can just get shot down by our SAMs", "Their SAMs can be destroyed by our infantry", "Their infantry can be destroyed by our tanks". It all goes back on its self, so no, while tanks technically do not win wars, they don't exactly not win wars either. It's a collective effort.

    • @Jan_372
      @Jan_372 3 года назад +8

      @@bambihall169 infantry actually wins wars. And you might wanna consider one thing: for planes to even do anything CAS-related you need complete air superiority, unless you like getting hit by a SAM.
      Infantry with an ATGM or even a disposable rocket launcher are a bigger threat at the moment.

  • @RadioactiveSaddam
    @RadioactiveSaddam 3 года назад +3

    Nice clip. The Leopard 2 is a interesting piece of modern history.

  • @SomeguyWhoLikesVideos
    @SomeguyWhoLikesVideos 8 месяцев назад +10

    This video aged wonderfully

    • @matthewjones39
      @matthewjones39 2 месяца назад +1

      I don’t get it.

    • @SomeguyWhoLikesVideos
      @SomeguyWhoLikesVideos 2 месяца назад

      @@matthewjones39 ukraine war, lots of losses for the leopard 2

    • @matthewjones39
      @matthewjones39 2 месяца назад +2

      @@SomeguyWhoLikesVideos Yeah. That’s usually what happens in war.

    • @SomeguyWhoLikesVideos
      @SomeguyWhoLikesVideos 2 месяца назад

      @@matthewjones39 im mostly not a fan of the leopard 2 and im referring to losses of leo 2s compared to the other fielded tanks

  • @dr.pop2562
    @dr.pop2562 3 года назад +8

    I would love to see you do one on the leclerc

  • @chefrowlet
    @chefrowlet 3 года назад +16

    I think the main problem with folks saying "best tank" is that most are basing their judgements off of video games, where that famous triangle really is all that matters.

    • @bambihall169
      @bambihall169 3 года назад +3

      Thats why I say the Americans get the top here, the Abrams has been in constant combat and proved itself.

    • @badgermcbadger1968
      @badgermcbadger1968 3 года назад

      @@bambihall169 exessive fuel consuption

    • @bambihall169
      @bambihall169 3 года назад

      @@badgermcbadger1968 I dont really see that as a concern when your dealing in wars nowadays

    • @lector-dogmatixsicarii1537
      @lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 3 года назад +1

      ​@@badgermcbadger1968 Sometimes I question the severity of the fuel problem when I look at Turkish Leopards getting turret ejected by landmines. Abrams just doesn't do that, but you get out of gas and the still not remedied turret ring UFP skip.

    • @user-nd9jp2lj2r
      @user-nd9jp2lj2r 3 года назад +2

      @@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 you have to note that the turkish Leopards were of the 2A4 model from the 1980s, without any significant upgrades and used very poorly in city combat while being designed for combatting soviet tanks in open grounds

  • @andretheaveragehumanheight7392
    @andretheaveragehumanheight7392 3 года назад

    I love that intro, the narration makes me feel watching a LOTR with tanks

  • @Orange_Wowee
    @Orange_Wowee 3 года назад +1

    can't wait for the episodes about the T-64, the Challenger, and the Leclerc

  • @hawawa_
    @hawawa_ 3 года назад +30

    Having a BV (boiling vessel) is an essential requirement to be considered the best.

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 3 года назад +3

      ah, a Challenger 2 fan

    • @kousand9917
      @kousand9917 3 года назад +1

      Oh no the bri ish are back everyone run

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 года назад +2

      Also the best officers. Challys are madlads only tanks.

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 3 года назад +3

      @@Joshua_N-A that's why the boiling vessel. Without proper tea you're never getting the best officers and gentlemen.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 года назад +1

      @@jwenting darjeeling, orange pekoe, rosehip, assam, earl grey, airdrop in 3...2...1...

  • @FoxtrotGolfLima
    @FoxtrotGolfLima 2 года назад +4

    from watching shooting instructors, I want to point out that neither the first shot or hit doesn’t always win. The first disabling hit wins in a confrontation

  • @leonardochristophe29
    @leonardochristophe29 3 года назад

    Keep it up Cone!🤝

  • @Poglavnik088
    @Poglavnik088 3 года назад

    I just love how the Kpf/Kpz/Mbt 70 looks

  • @hytalefanboi7471
    @hytalefanboi7471 3 года назад +3

    Cool to see that AW is doing advertising. I actually enjoy it more than WT and WoT

  • @40KTTR
    @40KTTR 2 года назад +3

    I think what makes the Leopard 2 stand out is it's modularization and servicability. It can easily be modified and Upgraded. Also all Partner countries which use the Leo2 meet and train on a regular Basis and share experience with each other.

  • @seanreynolds7369
    @seanreynolds7369 3 года назад

    Very good video, amazing as always. I do wish to bring up the parts shortage and maintenance problems this tank does have for the countries that use it however.

  • @alexedrington948
    @alexedrington948 3 года назад

    Love the new Intro!!

  • @Jenkin_Jones
    @Jenkin_Jones 3 года назад +11

    Thank you for the premiere. Glad to watch this. There is truly no best tank as you have to ask who, what, where, when, why as each country has requirements that are different due to needs, doctrine, and even culture, etc. It's the guys inside the tank that make it great generally and even still, it's never tank A vs tank B. It's tank A with arty, infantry, air support, tanks, etc. vs tank B with the same. Thanks Cone, can't wait for part 2.

  • @daddygagz1701
    @daddygagz1701 2 года назад +61

    I think the Abrams and leopard are equals, but at the end of the day it’s up to the crews training and experience.

    • @johnnyenglish583
      @johnnyenglish583 2 года назад +11

      Exactly. Plus the logistics. Poland is planning to buy Abrams tanks now, even though it has Leopard 2's. This makes no sense to me: it's much more effective to buy more of what perhaps is a SLIGHTLY less effective tank, but which you know how to use and have the logistics and training systems for already in place, than to buy something SLIGHTLY more effective which you can't afford to operate anyway.

    • @generalkayoss7347
      @generalkayoss7347 2 года назад +5

      The Abrams is battle tested and proven in large numbers. The Leo, not so much.

    • @misterplayer7250
      @misterplayer7250 2 года назад +8

      @@generalkayoss7347 Lol the Leo had many battles and it is THE BEST but ok

    • @lagg1e
      @lagg1e 2 года назад +13

      Of course they are extremely similar, M1 Abrams and Leopard 2 started suspiciously after the MBT 70 jointventure. They have the same horsepower, almost the same main gun, basically the same weight and profile and are drawing upon the same industries(USA and germany OTP) for upgrades. They're basically twins.

    • @manofcultura
      @manofcultura 2 года назад +5

      @@misterplayer7250 wehraboo cope

  • @rimedrihen6054
    @rimedrihen6054 Год назад +2

    Is there second chapter as said in the video ? Can't find it. Would be great to see the analysis of following leopard 2 versions and combat service/lessons

  • @ThatHonestGuy
    @ThatHonestGuy 3 года назад +1

    I'm looking forward to this...

  • @ChrisPBolsak
    @ChrisPBolsak 3 года назад +9

    Even if it's not the best, It IS the sexiest.

  • @keithpennock
    @keithpennock 2 года назад +3

    When are you going to do part 2 of this video? Do you have a production schedule? Are you going to cover successors both NATO, Warsaw Pact & others?

  • @nonkynonk
    @nonkynonk 3 года назад +1

    One of these on the challenger 2 would be pretty cool

  • @TheIdiotPlays
    @TheIdiotPlays 2 года назад

    11:50 Took me a while to figure out it was fool playing in the background, nice :D

  • @davidty2006
    @davidty2006 3 года назад +23

    Hmmm i can see why the leo 2 could be one of the best.
    Like litterally idk how many have been exported and modified

    • @potatojuice5124
      @potatojuice5124 3 года назад +7

      The Nordic countries like them

    • @vinccool96
      @vinccool96 3 года назад +6

      \*Happy Canadian noises\*

    • @UpToSpeedOnJaguar
      @UpToSpeedOnJaguar 3 года назад +8

      It probably doesn't have much actually to do with how 'good' they are; rather how available they are. Im sure germany exports them for a much better price than most of the competition. Parts availability is also likely much better due to the location of Germany.
      At the end of the day, quantity and logistics usually triumphs over how modern the technology they use is.

    • @Sebastian-yl7nq
      @Sebastian-yl7nq 3 года назад +5

      @@UpToSpeedOnJaguar But that's like literally the major part of it?
      If a car can do 100% of the things for 100.000€, it's impressive.
      But if a different car from a different company can do 95% of the same things for 50.000€ and at a lower running cost, it's even more impressive

    • @UpToSpeedOnJaguar
      @UpToSpeedOnJaguar 3 года назад +7

      @@Sebastian-yl7nq that's my point. I wouldn't call the leo 2 the "best," but for the money, it's what europe likes to go with. It's available.
      I personally believe maximum crew survivability is what makes a tank the best, but this is just my opinion. You can build tanks, but it takes longer to make a truly skilled crew.

  • @reverencerx873
    @reverencerx873 3 года назад +6

    You kinda forgot the ammo rack behind the frontal armor that is a massive weak spot.

    • @lector-dogmatixsicarii1537
      @lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 3 года назад +3

      I was just saying something about that, lol. If you compare Abrams getting hit to Leopard getting hit. The Leopard has some nasty secondary explosions while the Abrams is like "lol wut" as the fuel burns off worst case. They really need to delete that or have a good blowout system. Store the ammo angled vertical and have it blow forward or something as a sealed cold storage travel rack.

    • @user-nd9jp2lj2r
      @user-nd9jp2lj2r 2 года назад +1

      that was actually "fixed" on the newest versions ... the DM63 ammunition just doesnt explode when hit

  • @TREX_04
    @TREX_04 3 года назад

    I got a Warpath ad before this video and it just hyped me up all the way until I realized the video hadn't even started

  • @stutzpunkt
    @stutzpunkt 3 года назад

    Outstanding

  • @potatopants4691
    @potatopants4691 3 года назад +6

    I think the Leopard 2 is a great tank because it can do anything well enough. Sure, the reason so many were purchased is that they were basically bargain price after the Soviet Union collapsed; but that has given way to so many different upgrades and options that can be placed on it today. Not the best, but very reliable and versatile.

    • @yungpindakaas
      @yungpindakaas 3 года назад

      yeah its modularity and upgradability is why the thing is so popular for exports. every country can modify and make their own versions of it with addon armor where they think they need it. Like the STRV122 for example.

    • @herrakaarme
      @herrakaarme 2 года назад +5

      A country being able to afford it is actually an exceedingly important factor. If you can afford 100 Leopard 2 from a post-Cold War bargain sale or 20 some-other-MBT with no discount, there's simply no other tank that would be five times better than Leopard 2!

    • @nowhere474
      @nowhere474 8 месяцев назад

      Turns out they weren't that good

  • @zulkifligumilang3155
    @zulkifligumilang3155 3 года назад +43

    "The world's best main battle tank. The leopard 2"
    *BRRRRRRRRRRRRRAKA MONOGA! DOITSU NO KAGAKU WA SEKAI ICHIIIIIIII*
    -Some cyborg German guy

  • @jehoiakimelidoronila5450
    @jehoiakimelidoronila5450 2 года назад +2

    Anybody notice a heart ❤️ drawn out on the window at 5:04?

  • @wyld_wolfwin
    @wyld_wolfwin 3 года назад

    Can't wait for the Leclerc to hopefully be looked at

  • @SuprememessageNG
    @SuprememessageNG 3 года назад +4

    Not sure I'd agree any tank is the best since different tanks fit better warfare doctrines better. For example, the Abrams is probably the best tank for what America uses it's tanks for but arguably others could beat it out in certain raw statistics, and the Leopard 2 is in a similar situation.
    Despite that, the fascinating history of it's development was a welcome watch.

  • @sarge4244
    @sarge4244 3 года назад +18

    As a Brazilian, every time I see the Osório, I shed a tear...

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 года назад

      It's quite impressive for a private company to build something like that, something that is considered world class.

    • @sarge4244
      @sarge4244 3 года назад +1

      @@Joshua_N-A Indeed. Gov let the Company die, and now, we are searching for a New MBT. Irony, I say.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 года назад

      @@sarge4244 the modern non-Western tank would be Russia T series, Chinese VT4, S. Korean K2 Black Panther and Japanese Mitsubishi Type 10 as well as the Turkish Altay and Indian Arjun.. Has any of these countries offered Brazil their tanks?

    • @sarge4244
      @sarge4244 3 года назад

      @@Joshua_N-A Our army can't buy things like the Challenger or Abrams because of our geography And infrastructure, they are too heavy for us. And the military did not reveal what tanks they are willing to test.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 года назад

      @@sarge4244 it's a shame. Brazilian companies prove that they have the potential and Brazil nearly become the place for alternatives. It's a proof that Latin American heavy industry is a serious player on international stage. Malaysia could've at least have the MB-3 Tamayo had the government acted quicker, and could've acquire the Osorio had we have a bit more money that time. We were looking for an MBT in the 90's. South Korea once offered over 200 K1s, which too much for us. Our heavy industry could've establish a joint venture with Brazilian companies in defense related products in order to compete at least in some degree with Singapore, they too have an impressive heavy industry.

  • @larikauranen2159
    @larikauranen2159 2 года назад +1

    Question.
    Is the part 2 for this video on the works? I know its only been a couple of months but im just curious

  • @unbekannternr.1353
    @unbekannternr.1353 3 года назад

    The City of Munster not only has the nice training ground, there is also the famous tank museum.
    And the pedestrian zone in the city has this beautyful cafe terrace where a training grenade (made of concrete) impacted.

  • @bucketofwhitepaint888
    @bucketofwhitepaint888 3 года назад +8

    Maybe he's planning about a new video about the Challenger 2 :v.

  • @fazeobama8872
    @fazeobama8872 3 года назад +15

    ok but get warthunder sponsor next time the ingame footage is heaps better

    • @horus228
      @horus228 3 года назад

      I actually liked the flash and smoke/dust of this footage though. But war thunder has indeed better models.

    • @boymahina123
      @boymahina123 3 года назад +2

      The grind of WT leaves alot to be desired though.
      Besides, AW has been chugging along on a smaller dev team than the other bigger tank games.

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV 3 года назад

      The thing that always jars me when I see Armored Warfare footage is that the tanks still look pristine even after taking a penetrating hit. It's only when they're actually destroyed that any damage at all is visible.

    • @88keysperfeel1ng9
      @88keysperfeel1ng9 3 года назад +2

      Armored warfarr has better details such as lights on tanks (front lights and back lights turnijg on when reversing) and after the shot ypu can see thick smoke coming out from the fume extractor.

  • @jhonnythejeccer6022
    @jhonnythejeccer6022 3 года назад +1

    That is one amazing intro

  • @ThelVadam7777
    @ThelVadam7777 2 года назад

    LETS GO!! LEO 2 LOVE

  • @boogiebomber2191
    @boogiebomber2191 3 года назад +8

    Ich bin nur hier um mein Ego zu puschen.

  • @iamnonexistent1680
    @iamnonexistent1680 3 года назад +3

    Where 2a5 and 2a6. They are absolute beasts in terms of combat as well as having a lot of angled armor in the front of the turret

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 3 года назад +1

      Were there any German Leo2s fighting in 1991 Gulf War and in Kosovo?

  • @RoschuhLP
    @RoschuhLP 3 года назад +1

    i dont if i missed it, but, where is part 2?
    Or is it still comming?

  • @Everly1388
    @Everly1388 11 месяцев назад +6

    LOL.....

  • @recording_closet9100
    @recording_closet9100 2 года назад +6

    The Leopard is used by my Home country Canada, so I am biased, but I absolutely love the Leopard

  • @Guardias
    @Guardias 2 года назад

    I spent a ton of my childhood blowing these up in games.

  • @2.0.2.0
    @2.0.2.0 3 года назад +1

    Cant wait

  • @jammygamer8961
    @jammygamer8961 3 года назад +22

    I thought the 2a6 and 2a7 of the leopards at least caught up with (possibly surpassed) the production abrams tanks in armor protection?

    • @hifive0264
      @hifive0264 3 года назад +11

      Yes I think thats the case, espacially with the new A7+, but I believe he will cover that in the second part.

    • @ywe3
      @ywe3 3 года назад +2

      They're on par...the Leopard is a great tank but the abrams is the standard for a reason

    • @potatojuice5124
      @potatojuice5124 3 года назад +8

      @@ywe3 wdym the “standard”? Because if we’re talking off if it gets copied then I guess the t 72 would be the standard

    • @ywe3
      @ywe3 3 года назад +8

      @@potatojuice5124 what I mean is WESTERN standard...the Eastern standard hasn't deviated since the T-54M...but that being said different doctrines get different tools...the western powers based their doctrines on a massed Soviet wave so western tanks are defensively designed and also incorporate the ability to sprint from one position to another in very short order...this is why western designs almost always have 10°of depression and very thick turrets...Russian designs are made for the attack [despite what the Soviet union's stance of defense might make you think]...they're low slung, big gunned, medium tanks...i.e. fodder...

    • @potatojuice5124
      @potatojuice5124 3 года назад +12

      @@ywe3 that’s fair. I wouldn’t call the Abrams the standard because pretty much all nato nations have their own designs and unique doctrines.

  • @miguelnarciso496
    @miguelnarciso496 3 года назад +6

    whats the game you used to take those clips and photos of the leo 2? 13:30

    • @kalathesergal1754
      @kalathesergal1754 3 года назад +2

      Armored Warfare the game he talks about at the start

  • @edwardliu111
    @edwardliu111 2 года назад +1

    Is a part 2 still coming?

  • @mtootm
    @mtootm 2 года назад

    Can you help me identify the song starting at 6:30? I swear I've heard it but I cannot find it in my music. I want to make sure it's get added to my stuff.

  • @WhatUpTKHere
    @WhatUpTKHere 2 года назад +4

    Am I right in thinking the Leopard 2 doesn't have the awful fuel efficiency of the Abrams either?
    When's part 2 dropping?

    • @jonahdewitt8464
      @jonahdewitt8464 2 года назад

      that'd be correct, plus it has the benefit of running on diesel instead of jet fuel which simplifies supply lines.

    • @dtownknives
      @dtownknives 2 года назад +1

      ​@@jonahdewitt8464 I'm not trying to fanboy for the Abrams, but its turbine is less picky about fuel than most internal combustion engines. Every source I have seen says that it can run on diesel, and many other hydrocarbons, in addition to the jet fuel.

    • @chaosagent_0106
      @chaosagent_0106 2 года назад

      @@jonahdewitt8464 Abram's turbine can use multiple fuel types, not only jet fuel. Merica knows the quirk of the turbine but accepted it because of its performance and versatile acceptance of fuel, even if it is quite thirsty, America can be spendy with it's supplies

  • @Onimatapia
    @Onimatapia Год назад +21

    ...didn't do very good in it's first test against the Russian armor.

    • @Fred_the_1996
      @Fred_the_1996 Год назад +2

      yes

    • @datcheesecakeboi6745
      @datcheesecakeboi6745 4 месяца назад

      1. wasnt its first test... you know nothing about it
      2. even if it was.. its not a very good test
      3. it currently has the best gun in the world... the challenger 3 and the abrams have the same 120mm rheinmetal
      4. its issues is the driver/gunner/commander ect, not the tank
      it has DM73 literally the best round in the world

  • @dbags7617
    @dbags7617 2 года назад

    Well when your only allowed to build and maintain a handful of tanks you've gotta make sure the ones you have are great. Superb design I love it

  • @superdarken1093
    @superdarken1093 3 года назад +2

    Can you do the challenger next???

  • @daemonofdecay
    @daemonofdecay 3 года назад +6

    Possibly unpopular opinion, but at this point I think the capabilities of the top tier tanks is getting so close that the difference is not the tank but the surrounding support, logistics and training structure.

    • @ernstbusch179
      @ernstbusch179 3 года назад +2

      A tank is only as good as its surrounding groups, thats why there were destroyed Leo 2 in turkey and Abrams in Irak

    • @radonsider9692
      @radonsider9692 3 года назад +3

      Yes. But the most important factor is the deployment zone and tactics. Look at the Canadian and Turkish use of Leo's. Turks used their Leo's while there were no infantry support. So they lost 5-8 Leo 2s. While Canadians used their Leo's with care and made their enemies shit on their pants.

  • @PvtMartin78
    @PvtMartin78 3 года назад +3

    Everyone knows that Arjun is clearly the best MBT. The only close contender is the TR-85.

  • @gostavoxcvoh
    @gostavoxcvoh 3 года назад +1

    Man this is the right channel since I know every World War II tank and German Branch USA branch USSR branch and experimental branch

  • @paraklash8912
    @paraklash8912 3 года назад +2

    For the next cursed by design video, perhaps the American T1/M6A1Heavy tank or E-series ?

  • @danchoen3847
    @danchoen3847 3 года назад +8

    I'm not arguing for German technical superiority I'm stating the fucking obvious!

    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT 2 года назад

      The Leopard 2 has an American fire control system which is hilarious to me

    • @ekarus4360
      @ekarus4360 2 года назад +2

      @@chaosXP3RT the abrahms have a german gun