A poor tank, a useless tank, and the worst tank in the world
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
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A low-tech tank with fragile armour, a tank that never saw the enemy, and the tank used to teach how not to build tanks. Thanks to Nicholas Moran (AKA The Chieftain) and Matt Sampson, the cameraman at Bovington Tank Museum.
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I like to believe that the tank museum was built around the Valiant at the end of it’s 13 mile test run and it just stayed there.
Young Stalin
"We can't move it, Sir!"
"Why not???"
"The last driver left the parking brake on...."
"So??? Get in there and take it off!"
"Well... he also pasted a notice on the side that says WARNING: BRAKE PEDAL EATS FEET."
"You don't say?"
"Yes... perhaps you'd like to jump in there and set it right, Sir?"
**pretends to talk on the radio** "Eh... cancel that order, Private. Turns out the tank is already precisely where it's supposed to be!"
"Very good, Sir."
If you want it strongly, it's not a dream.
I would not be surprised.
This is my new reality ! 😍❤️
"Two pieces bolted together"
"four"
"Two *Main* pieces bolted together"
"well... three"
made my day
Seeing Lloyd getting owned is nice
The classic social ineptitude fueled battle of the wits
Reminded me of a Python sketch.
i like that he left that in
"how fast can the turret traverse?"
"It depends on how strong the guy is."
“Potentially 50 degrees a second”
POTENTIALLY
"So hows the transmission and engine?" "Our boy has a flintstone's transmission and the engine depends on if the driver has shoes or not."
@@daylenhigman8680
General: *How far that tank can go?*
Staff Officer: *Depends on the driver's stamina...*
Keep a 300kg barbell in the tank to ensure your gunner can maintain optimum strength for maximum turret speed.
can't wait for war thunder to add it to it's roster.
It was so nice of chiefy to take that poor homeless man to a museum.
😂
Lol
@Shane L Poor tanks are better than no tanks at all.
@Shane L They did mention during their conversation that Japanese tanks were fine for jungle traverse... just horribly uncomfortable and no match against other tanks...
Legend has it that he brushed his hair once....
Some wise words I once heard: you're never completely useless, you can always be used as a bad example
Outstanding comment! The true legends of fuck ups can even aspire to the highly coveted honor of becoming a well known cautionary tale.
Repressed school memories are coming back to life
That makes me feel a bit better about myself. Thanks!
Thank you, I found my purpose in life.
Did Groucho Marx say that?
I'm not mature enough not to giggle at the sentinels machine gun
Many of us have mastering the art of giggling in our heads, without lip movement or sound. :)
Why? Is it because it looks like a nipper?
@@billylauwda9178 if thats code for a dick then yes
@@gonk9315 nah laddie, nipper could either mean a baby that is still suckling, or the women's nipples or breast laddie.
@@billylauwda9178 either way it looks like a dick
Those Japanese tanks went up against Soviet T-34s in Manchuria in August 1945.
It didn't go well for them...
Which isn't strange in the least, one was a naval based power which heavily empathized its navy rather than army (since the two were separate) and rather industrially weak, the other was an industrial powerhouse (despite how agrarian based it was because of its massive population) with 5 years of tank combat experience and development of new tanks and arguably the least inclined naval power of all major nations in the war. (that is to say, putting its focus in land warfare)
Japanese tanks also got smited by Shermans.
@@WTF2BlueTiger when the Japanese & Russians butted heads, it was pre European theater fighting for Russia (except for the Finnish debacle). They fielded what they had at the time and it was the same stuff the Germans destroyed in such massive numbers just a year plus later. Their tactics remained poor albeit w/better equipment than the Japanese to some extent but w/MUCH better leadership.
A lot of what you are saying is absolutely correct industrial/strategical policy wise but tactics/equipment wise, less so.
T-34’s weren’t the best tank, when the Germans had a blitzkrieg against the Soviets, they mass produced T-34’s. Although they had huge factories, they produced them at such a rate BECAUSE the armor wasn’t measured and fitted properly, the tracks were put together with a rod, and etc. The Japanese used to exploit gaps in their armor by throwing Molotov cocktails on them.
@@caedon6543 The Finnish used the molotovs not the Japanese.
"-So, you're telling me this tank gets 13 miles per gallon??
-No! No! .....Just 13 miles....."
The Ha-go was an excellent tank, for its intended purposes.
1) The British never saw it coming, no tanks were supposed to move through the Malayan jungles. Correspondingly, there was no AT gun support.
2) The tank could float. This was used extensively by moving the tanks through rivers and the straits of Singapore, creating the biggest British defeat of the war - battle of Singapore.
3) It was used extremely effectively in sieging holdings in China.
Ironically for its faults the Australian tank was a good emergency tank, that just needed to beat it. Or several of them landing. If you're flawed but better than your opponent , are you O.K. ? I think yes.
Not so, the British and Australian armies deployed 2pdr anti-tank Regiments in Malaya. And the Japanese deployed Type 89 tanks - much larger than their tankettes, but more WW1 style. One British A/T Regiment, stopped by the roadside, was overrun by Japanese tanks doing a rapid advance - failed to post sentries, having a smokeo and not expecting the enemy. Malaya 1942 was not just an infantry war.
@@glennsimpson7659 I'm aware of the AT guns being deployed. But in effect, the British/Australian armies did not plan for tank attacks (and were repeatedly briefed to that effect).
Actually if they knew about the tanks and bothered putting down anything remotely defensive, 20/40mm AA can easily shred them (and they had these).
In particular, if they were really intent on stopping the Japanese tanks, there would be AT ditches off road and AT obstacles on the road. In practice if you tried to look for WW2 pictures where they had any such defense... well lets just say that i haven't found any.
Imagine just chilling on the beach and suddenly you see a tank just floating around-
The America comes along and ruins the fun
You can move the turret *accidentally breaks gun off turret*
shlibber I swear the postman dropped it, call Ups...
"ASBESTOS POISONING"
That strange noise it made does add some weight to your argument...
Good one. I actually laughed. One of those short, fun, unexpected laughs that is sometimes better than a huge belly laugh. Well done.
"It was the Sherman that did it"
How they both kept straight faces when Lindy manhandled the Sentinel's glans I will never know.
Lots and lots of takes. At one point you're want to get over it enough to stop with The silly grin
Penis envy!
Many years ago, I was flicking through a book about tanks, and saw a picture of the Sentinel. I immediately thought:
'That hull machine gun armour looks just like a cock.'
I think that it's the only tank that I have shown pictures of to people, and they have giggled at it, simply because of that.
Saying that, the Sentinel with 2X 25lb guns in a new turret, looks cool, and bloody terrifying at the same time.
Imagine making fun of it, they’re jealous their own countries dont have tanks with dongs to show how much of a man they are
4:43
I heard Japanese tanks and remembered a line from a tank history book saying some anti tank round would piece through both sides and then explode on the out side of the tank
Alex Withington I honestly can’t tell if that’s a good thing or a bad thing...
Doc sort of both for the Japanese but bad for the Americans.
Mainly because these rounds would piece the tank crew members rather than blowing up the tank which would really suck
No armor is the best armor
Exactly! So when you shoot through a Bob Semple and falls in half, now there are two Bob Semples!
Probably a good time to switch to HE shells instead of using AP dhells?
I feel like you can see lindy slip slowly into madness when he gets corrected on little things he thought were correct lol
An Irish cowboy with a homeless man review tanks
"Wake up Poland, my toilet is dirty!"
Ok
Irish* cowboy
Fine
Happy?
Lloyd feeling very attacked by a person with more tank knowledge than himself
+Luke Sparrow
I think Lloyd likes to be the authority on everything. There was no camaraderie shared between these two...pretty evident.
lol Could you say "run over"?
His spandau video did proof he is the bestest expert no matter what topic
I thought Lloyd quite enjoyed it! How do you think he learned to begin with.
@@olrikparlez3152
Literally why I can't stand his personality. I'd love to hear him debate Gun Jesus on post 19th firearms, since it'd really expose the fact that Llyod is only really a true expert when it comes to medieval periods, while everything after he's just 'well-informed'.
Basically, it's always great to see somebody with an inferiority complex put in their place.
“Aww V for Victory! What a great British tank!"
"this is arguably one of the worst tanks ever made"
Yes, his original words were a joke.
V for venereal.
Number Order: 500
Number Built: 1
I have never laughed so hard in my life.
I'm glad they didn't waste more money on someone so useless.
Why does Lindy look like Chieftain broke into his room and dragged him down the to museum without even letting him brush his teeth? :D
He looks like he's about to cook meth with Jesse.
@@BungieStudios he looks like he SMOKED Jesse's meth
I love that little Type 95 Japanese tank. I want that in my garden.
Never arm the accursed Gnomes or Smurffs. It will be a garden of regrets...
If they made that into a teapot, I would have that in my kitchen. And yes, it still requires three people to use it... and a very large oven.
It literally in front of A school in Thailand
SDPG WTF
It'l fit in your garden shed
Maybe I'm overly easy to entertain, but I like the linguistics in the idea of finding a guest host and having an episode titled "Tad Banks' Bad Tanks".
I wonder what the guy at 5:04 was running from
Lol i've randomly just read this at 5:02, looked up and then it happened
He is running from the SPG.
I see another kid looking for him and in a hurry 5-10 seconds later he travels the same path so i would guess he was running from little brother. HAHAHA
Or running to? We shall never know...
It's definitely not any of these tanks I can say that much
"We designed a tank so bad that the best use we could put it to was challenging people to make lists of what we did wrong."
The best tank is the tank that you bring to the fight when the enemy has none
Which is why the Japanese tanks were probably decently effective against many of their enemies. The Chinese for example.
Florian Haydn lol totally true. I am Chinese, and study Chinese history, so that’s why I know it’s true.😂
Ie. Russian border wars around Manchuria. The Japanese tried once lol.
id rather be on the ground with a .30 then inside a tank that can be penetrated by .30
Yea, the Yanks learned that lesson well in the early stages of the Korean War, when they wasn't even capable of mustering any effective Anti-Tank weapons against the modern North-Korean Soviet built T-34s. All they had was some old school Bazooka that had proven ineffective already in the Second World War a decade earlier. Even the more modern Super Bazooka, comparable with the German WW2 Panzerschreck, which entered service just before the outbreak of the Korean War, were the Americans incapable of supplying their fighting troops in North-Korea.
The state of the American armed forces at the time, which was caused by a massive demobilization after the end of the Second World War, rendered the Americans incapable of taking on even the North-Koreans, let alone China and the Soviet Union, which was a fundamental and scary reality check for the Americans in the early stages of the Cold War. And this laid the foundation for the future American standing military power as we know today.
5:04 Me with a light tank running away from a KV-2
idiot the kv-2 as slow turret rotation that could make you attack is side
@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry you played too much games, light tanks are not getting close enough to kill a kv 2 if it has any kind of infantry support, an indirect hit from the kv2 will send most ww 2 light tanks flying for a few m
@@tantainguyen4290 I'm pretty sure that the OP (Kenchi) was refering to a game, so your comment is irrelevant.
@@arianas0714 but he's wrong and I have every right to point out that he is
@@tantainguyen4290 Just shut up, please, you're just digging up a grave for yourself.
The Japanese tanks were good for what they were meant for, infantry support through tight jungles.
Only against chinese
Nikolai, that was what they were designed for. And they did fairly well.
Ya know in any other county smth like chi ha would be considered a tanket and stuart could do the same and way better. Oh there was also a battle where their tanks got rect by russian landing troops using only at- rifles and grenades without any tank or artillery support
I mean dont get me wrong such tank is better than nothing but compared to counterparts it was quite lucklustre.
The Chi-Ha wouldn't be considered a tankette and it was actually a pretty good light tank when it was first made. The Stuart can compete with it, but it also came out years after the Chi-Ha. Plus the 47mm armed Chi-Has could be argued to be superior in firepower to a Stuart.
Overall, the Chi-Ha wasn't a bad light tank. It was just getting long in the tooth and light tanks in general were kind of outdated at that point.
The Ha-Go is just a secondary delivery vehicle for their vastly more effective katanas. I heard a katana could cut through a Matilda stacked on top of a Tiger II like a butter-soaked tatami mat, the ghost of my dead great grandfather who was killed by a samurai told me so.
Fake Nazrin's Magical Adventures Japanese Light Tanks are underrated in [name of wargame]. ;)
My uncle's grandfather who was in WW2 got defeated in close quarters combat with a katana. He shot the japanese guy with his M1 Garand but the samurai just reflected the bullet perfectly back into the barrel of the garand and broke it and did so with a iado attack because the , and he was left defenceless against his next move which was a getsouga tenshou. Had it not been for the iado which buffs the katana's speed like crazy my uncle's grandfather may have stood a chance but we all know drawing from the scabbard and attacking is faster than conventional attacks.
Ah, the katana joke is here! The first time I heard it I laughed so hard I fell of my dinosaur.
blasty137 You lucky bastard! My grandfather was thrown out of Stephenson's rocket for telling katana jokes and he broke both his legs in the process!
You lucky bastard!
Armour penetration of a top-tier katana is 120mm at 1000 metres. Not great, but not bad either.
I got this weird feeling lindybeige doesn’t like this tank
Dah fighter Ha - Go? Certainly it has nothing to do with fall of Singapore...
"If your foot got stuck there It would have to be chopped off"
- "...ah"
Its funny how many Tankfest video are coming out today
The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs One might think that all youtubers that have interest in thanks had attended this event.
Strange...
Yeah, when was it, I'm too lazy to google it.
Go figure...
Paybackpaycheck two weeks ago
Almost as if they recorded and edited the videos within the last week..........
As an Australian I am going you to respectfully ask you to not fondle our mantlets
4:40 - 4:47 um ...
Sentinal= dik tenk
"Australia was not a large country at the time".
It's been the same size all along mate
we don’t listen to upside down bois
Insert Rolf Harris joke here.
The thing with the Ha-Go is it was built in 1935. When compared to many other tanks of it's class at the time it was somewhat better. However, unlike other tanks at the time, it aged poorly.
Typical of Japanese engineering at the time. (half of there weaponry was a ripoff of Commonwealth forces weaponry Bren, Sten SMLE MK III etc)
Liam93 I digress on your statement. The Japanese firearms were mostly copies of German and French firearms.
-Type 96’s and 99’s were copies of Czech vz-26’s as were Brens.
-Arisaka rifles were based off the mauser design.
-type 100 smgs were based off the mp18.
-their heavy machine guns were hotchkiss models
Liam93 and given the fact that the type 100(1940) actually came out before the sten(1941) leads to the conclusion that you just have a bias against the Japanese.
@@AussieLiam93 Yeah but the Japanese focused in their navy, not their tanks
@@AussieLiam93 In fact, the British invented everything under the sun. T'was the magic of the Monarchy.
The Chieftan is constantly saying "I have experience and knowledge of this stuff, you're wrong" so politely.
... Chieftain* ...
You could say he has experience in telling people they’re wrong lol
But I don’t think Lindybeige was really wrong ever, just The Chieftain kept brining up other points. The whole thing was amiable
Q@@einundsiebenziger5488
When i saw the title i smelled Potential History
•TheKaisTzar • Wait seriously?
Meme tanks *claps*
meme tanks *claps*
•TheKaisTzar • link or fake and gay
If Potential History would habe made this vid, he would name 2 german and 1 russian tank
Love that channel
You guys missed the point of the gimbal mount for the Ha-Go's 37 mm gun. You need a gimbal mount for one man turrets because one person cannot simultaneously aim the weapon and traverse the turret. Without this system he would have to both slew the turret and fire the gun while tracking a target, which is nearly impossible to do accurately. The gimbal mount allowed the gunner to have a wide field of fire without traversing the turret and losing sight on a target as the gunner never leaves his scope and his hands never leave the gun. This was seen first on the Renault FT and replicated by Japan.
The comparison to the Renault FT is a misleading. The only FT version that had independent traverse on the main weapon was the one armed with a Hotchkiss 8mm machine gun... The versions sporting the 37mm cannon all had traverse locked together with the turret. So the Ha-Go is very much unique in this regard, and for good reason.
The FCM 36 that the Chieftain did an Inside the Hatch on not too long ago also had a similar mount for the 37. I'm surprised he didn't remember that.
Amazing Ace is
That sounds legit
The British also had the independent gun movement on their tank-mounted 2-pounders. Enabled fast, accurate AT aiming at short ranges on the move - like cavalry! Not sure about the 6-pounders; I think that's when it stopped. It was a definite advantage that also exploited the high firing rate; you can't do this with bigger guns.
forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/339079-british-tanks-and-accuracy/
There is a comment in this video that Australia had no steel industry when the Australian Cruiser was designed and built. At the end of the 1930s Australia had some of the the largest and most modern steelworks in the British Empire. Leslie Bradford, one of the owners of the company that cast the Australian Cruiser hull and turret was a groundbreaking metallurgist who had been General Manager of the BHP Newcastle Steelworks. A little research does pay off.
Australia had a steel industry but didn’t have experience in making high quality armour steel. Making steel suitable for tractors and ships is a very long way from making quality armour steel. This was rectified by forward thinking business men, including folks from BHP, in the late 1930s who realised that Australia wouldn’t be able to depend on the British to supply us with cutting edge military equipment. The British also wouldn’t give us the designs to build the latest equipment anyway. They didn’t think Australian industry was capable of building it (and wanted a captured market), which is why the Boomerang and Wirraway aircraft were based on American designs. The Americans were happy for us to licence build whatever they had. Sorry, don’t mean to Pommy bash here, it’s just the way things worked before WW2. Britain generally, especially Churchill, didn’t rate the Japanese as a creditable threat and thought Australia was worrying over nothing.
Side note: the Australian government were still very ‘British’ in the lead up to the war and only bought British equipment. They did not support the private ventures that were leading the way in Australian military production, which made what those businesses were doing very risky. Fortunately for them and for Australia, their efforts paid off... albeit only just. While we were still woefully short of equipment in 1941/42, at least we had lots of locally built advanced trainers which provided the necessary pilots to fly the P40s etc when they eventually arrived from the States.
Gordon Berry Which is why Australians should thank God for John Curtin
Valiant's transmission: exists
Tiger 1(Porsche): are you challenging ME?
That machine gun housing on the Sentinel look like .....ummm.... a gentlemans chap, a rather short one at that.
600 rounds a minute, though.
short but, big around.
Short and thick did the trick
My Father helped to make the first Sentinel ,he was a steel molder ,&yes it was the first made by pouring out molten armour steel into a black sand molds, they were quite proud of the achievement they also made 500 & 1000lb bomb casings as well as anchors for the RAN &USN . If you look at the front end of the sentinel you'll see the BK that's the company name Bradford Kendell ,Dad worked there for 55yrs ,from the age of 14yrs old, don't see that much these days,as far as I know the foundry was at Mascot in Sydney 🖖
Neat story Ross. Considering just about everything including anything bolted down was sent to help overseas, that tank WAS a real achievment. If I ever get a chance to jump over from WA I will go and see it. Thx to yourself and your Dad for that little gem of history. Peas mash and good gravy to you, Johnno Bloke.
@@johnnobloke3419 Glad you enjoyed it Johnno ,
there was one on display at the War Museum in Canberra
but I'm not 100% sure , they've done a lot of work down
there in recent years , and I haven't been down in a long time
, it's a definite must see if you come East , that's a garentee 🖖
@@TheSunnyvaleTrailerPark
Sorry Troy, I'm from Sydney , I'm not sure if there's any in WA but if you're ever traveling here in the East have a look at the War Memorial in Canberra, definitely one there and a lot more ,well worth a visit !🖖
From one Ross to another, I've not long come back from looking at one of these at Armourfest 2018 at the Armour and Artillery museum in Cairns. Maybe it was not a great tank but it was a great Aussie effort in its day. Well done to your father and his coworkers at Bradford Kendell!
If you happen to be up north, go to the Australian Armour and Artillery Museum in Cairns. They not only have one of these but an excellent range of other great exhibits as well!
'Arguably the worst tank ever built'
The Bob Semple Tank: Am I a joke to you?
Say sike right know
The bob semple tank is the best tank of ww2
If a Bob Semple made it to Japan, we wouldn't have needed a nuke, you heritic.
The Bob Semple gets a lot of shit, but if they were to defend against the Type 2 Ka-Mi, and my experience playing said amphibious tank in War Thunder years ago is any indication, they'd likely prove to be, unironically, fit for purpose.
Once you take away the ability to float by, say, getting it on land, the Ka-Mi is atrociously bad.
HERESY
Lindybeige showed up at the Museum, they took one look at him and said "please sir - turn up at closing time only, and go to the back door of the kitchens - we can't afford to be SEEN giving you free scraps!"
They look cute and that's all what matters in tank warfare.
Ok that last one is just terrible.
yeah, i wanna pinch those chubby sentinel cheeks
Wtf is wrong with the sentinel other than the 40mm? It was the only Allied tank that could mount the 17pdr before the Firefly
Free amputations if you slip the clitch
@@texanmaniacreturns7096 Plus, the AC 1 was intended to primarily mount the 6-Pdr, but they didn't have enough at the time so had to make do with the 2-Pdr, which was still an extremely capable AT gun at the time.
I like to imagine that the chieftain just lives in tank museums living off of correcting other people about tanks for sustenance.
You bastard was drinking water when I read this
I was going to start a Patreon page to take up a collection to buy Lindy a comb and brush set but then I decided I liked the "Mad Hatter" look. It works for him.
The Valiant: A *successful experiment* to determine a *bad idea*
So you could literally sneak up on this thing and disarm it by violently swinging the turret the wrong way good to know lol, Easier said than done but still
Break his spine. brutal.
Tie a cable to the turret, wrap it around a few times, then attach it to your Prius.
Drive away.
Prius kills tank.
Press X to subdue...
“OH SHIT THEY ARE FONDLING THE TURRET”
Apparently one American soldier disabled one simply by sneaking up on it and jamming a trench-knife into the turret ring
Forrest Gump cameo 5:03
I actually laughed out loud when I saw that. I didn't even notice him before I saw your comment
Legend says he's been running since the movie came out.
Good one
That's fucking funny dude
Edit: Me: replies on video. Gets a like on it three months later. 😂
LMAO. I saw this video before and never noticed that. Thanks for the chuckle.
When the best thing about a tank is its "mediocre gun" its time to get out and walk home.
Better go by bicycle and throw rocks instead.
Robert Payne that's government for you
Robert Payne and important thing to remember is that different nations had different doctrines and ways to use tanks. Japanese tanks were used as infantry support vehicles most of the time so when they came up against enemy tanks they often fell flat.
Irongear Gaming its not that Japanese tanks are bad, did you even read what I said?
Kachow Nazinga. I wasant going against. I just added that japnesse changed their doctrine in the Chi-To and Chi-Ri. The earlier japnesse tank doctrine was alright against the chinesse but not against the americans.
"The French stuff like the Somua 35... it's two pieces bolted together-"
"4."
"...two _main_ pieces bolted together, okay so uh-"
"3."
*looks at camera*.
4:41 its a male tank confirmed
And flacid at that.
But it spits bullets instead of pee
ikr
austrilanins i guess?
:)
(dont mind deee spelling)
Typical person well yes you are quite tyical arn't you?😎
Possibly Hebrew as well.
5:04 Someone's in a hurry.
This is the kind of fanfic that I switch incognito for..
Certainly no leman russ here.
High Marshal Helbrecht "listen up! The good Lord usually works in mysterious ways, but not today! This here is 66 tons of straight up, HE spewin', deeevine intervention. If God is love, then you can call me cupid!!!"
Can't believe I found a Johnson quote here xD
Is he American?
The video started off with an American accent that got more and more Irish as it went on.
Maybe it was a bet,?
zogworth well he's from Ireland, but is an American citizen and an American tanker
Military buffs always seem to think that all tanks were made to fight other tanks, as if it's some kind of sports match or World of Tanks. Tanks were made for many purposes, such as against infantry, civilians, truck convoys, bunkers, machine gun nests, trenches, and exploiting breaches. The Ha-Go was a fine design for its purposes.
AC Sentinel: Everything is bigger in Australia.
Everything is trying to kill you in Australia . . .
It's probably venomous too.
David: and have a sturdy pouch in the stomach to keep it's babies in?
Texas*
Including the price of everything.
There was a Sentinel tested, that mounted twin 25 pound field guns. Christ.
That was to test to see if it could handle the 17pdrs recoil forces. I belive that there was room for 1 in the turret to load the guns between shots, who then got out and electrically fired them from the outside.
Yeh, design was rather trial and error back in those days.
And one with 17 pdr. gun in the same sentinel 4 turret😑
They did:
www.awm.gov.au/collection/029446/
I'm pretty sure we got a train company to make tanks.
A Fucking train company
and also single 25Qdr and flame thrower
We need Top Gear to compare the Ha-Go to a Yugo.
And at the end of the show, shoot the Yugo with the gun.
And hopefully not ricochet the shell out of the hood or a door. lmao
*Some 3rd-world country wants a tank*
England: *Has the Valiant*
Also England: "Here, take these. Better yet, we'll pay you to take them."
But what about the Bob Semple tank? Its just a tractor frame with corrugated iron as armour.
Yes, but the Kiwis knew it was a turd in a tin, it might have been better than nothing, and it was the greatest ever 'Number 8 wire and no idea' thing ever made in New Zealand, so deservers to be remembered. warisboring.com/the-media-laughed-but-bob-semple-stood-by-his-tank/
The Bob Semple sort of gets away with it because it was a desperation tank and never saw use. Putting the Semple on a worst tanks list is low-hanging fruit anyway.
DespicableDamo do you think it's a coincidence New Zealand hasn't been invaded since the production of the Bob Semple tank? A tank that never has any losses due to combat.
ger du That would be the Bison armoured truck, which was intended as a last resort stand-in for the vehicles lost at Dunkirk. They made a fair few of them to protect air force bases, but they never saw action because Germany couldn't muster up the resources to invade Britain. It technically isn't a contender for worst tank as it was a desperation vehicle and it wasn't a tank (it was armed with machine-guns and built on a civilian truck chassis).
Why? What?
Lloyd of the Beige, where the bloody hell are the Q217 videos?! I miss them an awful lot!
trust my fellow countrymen to put a phallus on the front of the only tank we ever built >.
big dick energy
its just like a chad
To intimidate the enemy by showing the virility of the tank 😂
Hey, After loseing a war to emus there was no way our army could get more embarrassed.
I just love the healthy dose of bush-engineering of 'stick three car engines in and she'll be right.'
Love that they bicker or correct each other during almost every conversation lmao
"Japanese were not really known for their tank prowess" **gets war thunder flashbacks, me getting blown up left and right by shermans**
same, dude the chi ha gets eaten by any tie one tanks
And then you get the Chi Ha Kai and start eating everything the you face. That 47mm is nasty and can kill most tanks it faces save for that bullshit 105 Sherman and maybe the B1 Ter.
Hell yeah. HELL YEAH.
I love the Japanese tank progression until the STA's. Up to the Chi Ha Kai it is god awful, then it is pretty good as long as you ignore the Ho I, then you get the Chi Nu which can kill M4s from the front (Except Jumbos of course) and can pen and kill T-34's through weakspots. Then if you get the Chi Nu II you have a gun that can pen and kill nearly every tank it can face and the trend follows up to the Chi Ri where that beautiful 75mm finally starts being less powerful. Still fun AF with the rapid reload though.
Two words: Try French
I'm sorry but that hull machine-gun on that Australian tank... it certainly is and attention getter!
We might not have had a lot of heavy industry here in Aus at the time, but we did have a lot of experience with railways - casting bogies and steam loco frames - which gives a good context for the sentinel engineering. Go with what you know.
To be fair, the Sentinels turret was the same design used in the earlier british cruiser tanks, like the crusader.
And the Mark III had a 25mm Howitzer in it. There was a working prototype, and the Sentinel program was put into action in response too the japanese threatening in invasion.
5:04 I only just noticed the dude sprinting in the background
Someone hijacked a tank
The ACIV sentinel was actually a good tank, despite the funny penis on the front.
The penis was for enemy thots they put it in their ass and then they get shot
@@generalock3015 No, it was when they knew they were f**d.
Good for what? Pew, pew...
There are pics of the AC2 with twin 17 pounders on it. Apparently, the recoil of two 17 is only 33% more than the 25 they wanted so was mocked up as a proof of turret design. Miracle tank went from paper to 13 made in 18 months when we had no heavy industry nor assistance from our "allies".
Dylan turnbull wow. That’s actually pretty interesting
The Japanese tanks weren’t designed to go against WWII tanks- just WWI tanks (they were designed in the 1920s and 1930s after testing with tanks from WWI and the interwar period that weren’t adopted by anybody).
Actually, Japanese tanks were designed for infantry support. This was because most of the supplies they had were put towards the navy and airforce. It wasn't until the Japanese saw the German tiger tank that they decided to start making heavy and medium tanks.
@@bryanchee572 It's also good to note that the Japanese did retrofit AT guns onto their tanks.
The Shinhoto Chi-Ha swapped out the 57mm howitzer for a 47mm AT gun, which were noted by the US as a definite threat they were lucky Japan didn't have many of.
There was also a plan for a casemate (StuG-y) Ha-Go with the same gun, but I don't think it was ever produced.
@@bobmcbob49 That casemate would be the Type 5 Ho-Ru; "The Ho-Ru was a light tank destroyer similar to the German Hetzer, but armed with the weaker 47 mm main gun in a semi-enclosed casemate. The Type 5 Ho-Ru utilized the chassis of the Type 95 Ha-Go, but its suspension was enlarged to 350 mm track link width. There were two set rows of wheel guide pins, holding a road wheel between them. The sprocket of the driving wheel was the grating type to gear with the wheel guide pins like on the Soviet T-34. Development of the Type 5 Ho-Ru started in February 1945 with only one prototype being completed before the end of the war." - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_95_Ha-Go_light_tank#Variants
@@thehumanoddity
There was also the casemate and semi-casemate Ho-Ni SPGs with a 75 mm gun. Too bad it was only stationed in the mainland
yeah, its a stupid video. The Japanese tanks were early designs and meant to deal with countries that had light tanks, or no tanks at all. Its a light tank, clearly it won't go well against a matlida!
The Aussie Sentinel was incredible for the conditions it was built under and despite the cramped conditions, it would have been effective if the Japanese attacked, as its armour would resist the Ha-Gos canon. Also i reckon the A.C.III had a modified turret, i am not sure but i cant imagine getting a 17 pounder in there any other way
That tank was far from useless, it was deployed almost entirely in china and manchuria against the soviets. Needless to say soviet tanks outclassed it but in china the tank was wonderful against chinese infantry that had no anti tank weapons. It being so small worked in the japanese army because they had trouble with fuel shortages, and thier warships were 1st to get fuel, so a small anti infantry tank was more effective than a heavy tank that would waste tons of fuel. This tank was never meant to fight another tank, but it did really well in china.
mintberrycrrunch - Yes, far from useless. Designed primarily as something to get the enemy to waste their ammunition on.
That's like saying you get a ww1 tank and go back to the 1600 no shit it's going to be effective but it doesn't mean it's a good tank
@Alvin Lin lol wut? Please think about what you just said and realize it makes no since, and has no relevence in this conversation. That japanese tank was a good tank in its time (around 1936, sloped armour wasnt even a mainstream tank design back then.) and this tank was supposed to fight only infantry, not tanks. It preformed wonderfully against infantry in china where the japanese spent most of thier time fighting in ww2. Im sure that for every 1 tank destroyed in the chinese theater, it killed at least 50 infantry. Again, far from a useless tank. Theres no need to "go back to the 1600" when the tank did a fine job in 1936 and was very tough to kill since the chinese infantry didnt have lots of anti tank weapons. The tank was designed to fight poorly armed infantry and to use as little fuel as possible, and it succeded on the battlefield in every aspect of its design. Now the tank has no ability to withstand fire from another tank, but thats because it was designed that way. If the tank had heavy enough armour to fight other tanks then it would use tons and tons of fuel and the Imperial japanese army in ww2 had very little fuel to work with since warships got the fueling priority, there was no reason for japan to build a tank destroyer when they had no ability to support its logistics. A purpose built tank that did its job very well throught the war. Just because it dosent look like a GERMAN MAUS TANK dosent mean the tank was a failure, the tank was 10 times as cost effective as the heavy tanks germany built that had terrible engine problems and would break bridges when they tried to cross.
@@MINTBERRYCRRUNCH at that time china was a third world shit hole with a almost nonexistent industrial capacity and shitty tech(why else would a small modern nation pick on a big one, only if the big one isn't modernized of course)For an example they were only able to produce around 4000 machine guns in all 8 years of resistance and you bet your ass they didn't have AT guns. In fact the only way they could kill tanks was to have Do or Die corps armed with grenades and suicide charge the tanks and blow themselves up with and it might kill it. In these cicumstances of course even a Japanese tank can do well. If it went against any major nations at time, that were you know, actually at least kind of we'll armed they would fail miserably. And from your response you made it sound like they invented there tanks specifically to fight weak foes then in that case any other nation can downgrade themselves to that level if they want.
@@MINTBERRYCRRUNCH in fact china had like for 1 rifle for every 5 men that's how undeveloped it was back then (dont exactly quote me on this but I knew they had a huge deficit of even rifles
Use the last one as a Trojan tank. Leave for enemy to steel, psychologically hurts them with it's epic usability, enemy wastes time repairing it over and over again, chops off enemies arm after he foolishly leans of something inconspicuous inside the tank like the internal wall of the turret.
Australia had a HUGE steel industry and really good foundries
Shame most of it's gone now
David Cotterill Yeah, replaced with Tech, industrial & manufacturing design, aeronautics, and other higher skill jobs.
On the Australian tank "It is certainly an attention getter". You can see Lindy thinking, "Nope, we're not doing the it-looks-like-a-willy thing" :D
On Australian tank development, I believe they proceeded with the Sentinel because it was a promising contingency for being cut off from supplies which was a frightening reality they probably saw possible with Japan seeming unstoppable before major pacific battles like midway, plus, it’s cheaper to use domestic products than to rely on imports, economically, the development of an Australian tank in WWII was reasonable
As for getting a large turret ring on a tank, anyone familiar with Russian or Chinese tanks will know that they were not beyond adding a small hull ledge to expand the turret ring, Conqueror did this as well, for those of you who look at a WZ-132 or T-54 for example is a practical show of getting a large turret ring on a small chasis
Yeah the Sentinel was a contingency for the worst case scenario. It doesn't matter if the US is churning out hundreds of tanks a day if Yamamoto is sitting in Honolulu. Even if the Chieftain thought its turret ergonomics sucked it would have wiped the floor with Japanese armour on the Australian mainland.
Also Australian never used M4 Sherman. We were equipped with M3 Lee/Grant as cast-offs and, as said above, looked like we were going to have to fight Japan alone until the entry of the USA into the war. I actually can't find any info on Australia using M3 in action.
James Lawrie cool, didn’t know that about the lee/grant, there are clips out there for the matilda II I think if you’re looking for some Australian tank drivers, I guess that explains why they were so happy to get their hands on the centurion
Let’s just set some things straight about the Sentinel.
At the time of the AC 1’s development no we did not have the opportunity to buy tanks from other countries. Singapore has just fallen the AIF was in North Africa leaving Australia virtually undefended we needed tanks so we built one.
The tandem engines were planned to be replaced by a more powerful & reliable one once that actually became available.
Nick always knocks that turret yet having watched the video where he gets inside it it appears the seating etc is seized and not working how it should. Working on other Australian vehicles from the time it is always interesting to see how well considered the crew is as compared to US or British vehicles so I found it strange that the sentinel would be so off.
Yes the larger turret ring does fit as the 17 pounder test bed managed it there was also designs in the works for the AC IV which had a 17 pounder the larger ring, turret and a different hull to accomodate all of it.
We bought Grants and Matilda’s we had a grand total of 3 Shermans for testing they were found to be inferior to the Churchill VII for our purposes so they were sent back to the US and we had a small number of Churchill’s for a time.
Granted the AC 1 is not a Sherman but considering it’s panicked development and industrial limitations I’d say it’s designers did well and given its role would have been in the pacific it would have dealt with Japanese tanks easily and provided everything the Matilda II did.
Had the Sentinel been given a chance to develop like the more famous tanks of the era I think we would have seen quite a capable beast low profile well armoured fast and well armed with the 17 pounder it would have been formidable.
To był czołg który mógł rozwijać się w naprawdę dobrą maszynę ale niestety nie dostał tej szansy ale pokaz że nawet kraj z ograniczonymi możliwościami i doświadczeniem czołgowym może zbudować dobrą rzecz.
@Jim Barrows The point was that they put what they had available, but the design planned for an upgrade. Earlier British tanks didn't have that ability built into their design. To test the 17 pounder recoil they created a twin short 25 pounder mount. The short 25 pounder was an Australian development designed for fighting in New Guinea.
Pretty much why I can't take this idiot seriously, the Type 95 was quite a good tank when it entered service in 1936, consider what other tanks were in service with other contries at the time, T-26, BT7, the Panzer III is still 3 years away and the USA doesn't even have the M2 yet!
Agree with everything else you said regarding the Sentinel, I feel it was an excellent product given what little industry Australia had available to it at the time.
There's also another reason why Australia decided to stick with the American products during the Pacific campaign - parts commonality, if you can get spares from the yanks, you don't have to bring your own, makes logistics a hell of a lot easier. That said, I wish the Sentinel did see action at some point - I doubt it would have had issue dispatching the Japanese tanks, even armed only with the 2 pounder.
Isn't that effectively what they said? You had no access to tanks, so built your own. It had flaws, but was a decent try. Because it was never deployed, nobody can say how well it would have worked.
@Jim Barrows At the time, the 2 guns available to be manufactured in Australia were the 2 pounder and the 25 pounder. The technical package to manufacture 6 pounder guns and ammo hadn't been delivered and the Brits didn't want to risk it being captured or lost. It arrived with the 17 pounder at the same time so Australia built 17 pounders. Without the technical package, Australian guns and ammo would not be interchangeable with the rest of the British Empire (parts could be made differently but would fit and function in guns from other countries).
"watercooled machine gun".... Right... I give my weenie masculine nicknames too! ;)
Anyone else notice Usain Bolt run by at 5:05 ???
look in the back its the fastest man alive
5:04
it's the flash
It's Forrest Gump
I love the outfits the host wears, they all look so worn in and comfortable.
Isn't a tank that destroys itself the worst?
You mean a Ferdinand?
builder396 How do you know? Potential History? I kinda cheated because the Ferdinand is a tank destroyer and not a tank but it's pretty close. If you want an actual tank the Germans have got you covered Panthers, Tigers, Jagdtigers, Jagdpanthers and so on. Pretty much every late war German heavy is the same: bigger gun, thicker armor, same powertrain. You could say they were lit.👌
Speaking of Potential History what about a tank that cant change gears while moving, unless down a hill?
If you're implying Tigers, Panthers etc, were terrible tanks then not really i mean atleast those things actually did something, unlike the Japanese tanks which were very much outdated, But Porsche's tanks were outright terrible.
Matteo Kropej tank destroyers are tanks
the homeless man keeps talking to the cowboy like he knows so much about tanks but cowboy keeps undermining with the facts lol
Wana talk about small nations making good tanks? Czech out Czech Republick and LT. 38
Bloodhat So good the Germans stole them all for their vanguard
Thats why Hitler wanna to get the entire Czech, key target: Skoda!
Arguably the most effective tank Germany used, and iirc the most mechanically-reliable Germany had.
@Großösterreichisches Reich Panzerjäger Hetzer was built on LT vz. 38 chassis, Stugs were built on Panzer III and IV chassis respectively
@Bloodhat - the huge difference between Czechoslovia and Australia, at least as far as tanks go, was SKODA and the automotive industry. Don't forget, Australia's British settlement had only occurred 150 years previously, and we'd only been a separate country for 40 years by then. The British were quite happy to have us as dependent on them for high value machined goods and to buy cheap agricultural output from us. That's the whole point of an empire. But it did kind of leave us in a bit of a hole when it came to a high tech industrial base. We didn't get our own home-built car until 1948, and then it was based on a 1939 Chev.
Hitler specifically wanted to annex the northern half of Czechoslovkia because of SKODA and other manufacturers, and the greatest shame of British history is that they gave away half of someone else's country to the Nazis (shame shared with France though).
12 mm armour? Couldn't you penetrate that with, like, a revolver?
Nah, Revolver aren't that Powerful enough to punch through the thin armour
you need something that fire 10.5 mm bullet/shell.
Yeh, I'm fairly sure a lot of pistols would be able to penetrate that. Unless I'm just mistaken in my understanding of caliber, but wouldn't a .45 pistol or revolver be enough?
Foul language could disable it at ~500 feet.
Qwerty actually 45 ACP is a rather slow-moving large bullet, relying more on mass and weight than speed. For instance of 45 caliber ACP could not penetrate 12 mm steel, but yet 5.56 NATO, the AR-15 round could go right through it due to the fact it's moving 3,000 feet per second. So size of caliber means a whole lot less than the velocity at which it travels. Anyway you slice it 12 mm is not tank armor
12 mm of RHA = Rolled Homogeneous Armour, MIND YOU ?
It is not 12 mm of cheap steel you find on a construction site For Fck Sake Lmao
I feel like I'm there, just awkwardly eavesdropping on these two talk.
i wish that we could get the Chieftain Lindybeige and the mighty jingles together for a video.
two historians and a historically interested gamer together
I saw a photo somewhere of Chieftan, LindyBeige, Military History Visualised, Bismark, and TIK. Was it TankFest? It was late, and I don't remember where I saw it. Maybe an MHV video. I'll check.
okay thanks i saw lindybeige and the chieftain in a recent video by jingles about tankfest but they were both shooting footage of the arena at the time
facebook.com/TheChieftainWargaming/photos/rpp.440361639336956/1946663278706777/?type=3&theater
"I made a conjecture" pretty much sums up your channel.
Samuel Parker How many viewers do you get per video?
Well it was brave of you to take a break from clapping at a flag, so at least you tried
Just Some Guy Ok He has one- and some gameplay of a Fuck’n android game-
No need to take him serious-
BUUUUUUUUUUUUURN
4:42
Once you see it, you can not unsee it.
He Holds it in both hands, and gives it a shake
"So it was in no danger of ever being somewhere it could fire at the enemy?"
"No."
😂😂😂
Japan fascinates me when it comes to their arms during the interwar period. Masters of aeronautical engineering, the Imperial Japanese Navy was reasonably innovative except in electronics, but then the Imperial Japanese Army seemed to wallow in the early 1920s and never moved beyond.
After the IJA suffered a defeat somewhere i dont remember off the bat, the government prioritized the IJN, so the army always received the 'meh' equipment
Well even in the mid to late 30s Japanese tanks were actually pretty good. The unfortunate thing is they never really went beyond that. The Shinhoto was their best tank to see service and it was pathetic compared to a Sherman or a Panzer III, let alone something like a Panther.
There was never really much need to go beyond when all you ever expect to face in a land battle are the Chinese who don't have any tanks or anti tank capabilities in any significant numbers.
That is my point entirely. Despite the whole pool of evidence that obsolescent Soviet designs like the T26 were utterly trashing their designs as early as 1936 and that the Americans were not just deploying Light Tank M3s in the Pacific Theatre, the IJA didn't reconsider deploying primarily tanks that drew more from designs of 1918 than 1941. They had some advanced ideas but never gave them priority while continuing to throw out things like that Type 95 in the video here. The same goes for their artillery, small arms, and other weapons. I cannot think of one IJA infantry weapon or tank that was truly unmatched in 1940, let alone 1942 and beyond.
Type 99 machine gun was one of the better/best light machine guns of the war. Rest of the small arms were pretty average to good, although late war production standards were lower due to supply shortages etc.
"Wow! We finally created a tank with a fully cast body! Congratulations everyone, great work!" [enemy shell slams into body an damages armor]. "ok, no problem, we'll just change out the armor plati....oh....well shit...."
You should cover all of the Roman emperors. How they died, what the did etc. Its a super interesting topic.
That mantlet for the Sentinel's machine-gun...
You mean NOBBY ?
Listen, I agree the Ha-Go isn't an amazing tank by any means, but they were meant for a certain purpose such as infantry or other related things, espically the Ha-go, its not amazing but its easy to transport; small in combat, not as many moving parts as BIGGER tanks and other things. These tanks arent completely useless, but they were meant for different purposes. Not an amazing tank comparing to WW2, but made for a purpose.
Is the purpose outing weebs on the internet 70 years later? It was a shit tank, deal.
It was shit so stfu USA USA USA
Jackthebeardly Y knowing the Japanese naval first policy which is understandable yes, plus doing landings on island with that type of tank is easier
1. Waste of material
2. Will get fucked by grenades and Any heavy rounds
3. That gun does no damage
Tanks are to support the infantry, not really to attack other tanks unless you follow the US tank doctrine
Bob Semple tank: *hold my tractor*
Bob semple tank actually very good tho
When they transfer the Bob semple to the Europe theater after a day the German surrender, coincidence? I think not
Dont leave us kiwis out, can you show do a video about the glorious Bob Semple tank.
well thats gonna go to the 3 best tanks video
Bob is best tank :(
I once heard a story of a Bob Semple that destroyed 24 Tiger tanks in just 20 minutes....Poor German soldiers, they had no chance...
new zealand has a secret weapon
They havent found somebody brave enough to go near it yet. Everybody is intimidated by its sheer power.
The Sentinel from concept to battle was 12 months. It was later fitted with a 17lb main gun. It did see service. There is one Sentinel in Queensland with the larger turret ring.
We had to build the Sentinel because American stuff wasn't available before 12/1941, and then fantastic British military planning saw Singapore 2/1942... nobody really wanted to build it. And as it was, for something basically improvised, it was better than much of what was being produced in Britain at the time... took the 17pdr as you said. Also, we got Grants. Good vids, though, thank you.
Well, the only tank defence of any size in 1941 SEA was the Dutch!
Only tinplate armoured cars in Malaya, some genius decided the forests were impassable, possibly looking at a map from 1880, since all the lumber and rubber loads were getting hauled by truck without much strain
Anything was better than sod all, but the Sentinel could have had the arse of any Japanese AFV
Only wish we kept it for the cold war period. With improvements in engine design along with a better gun, it would be a little pocket rocket support tank that can take a beating from other heavier tanks. 😂
lllordllloyd
I suggest you look up the antics of Gordon Bennett
Gordon Bennett (general) - Wikipedia
and
Brigadier Duncan Maxwell
Duncan Maxwell - Wikipedia
Made a prisoner of war after the fall of Singapore, Maxwell was held by the Japanese in a camp on Taiwan.[1] Here he conceded to another prisoner, Brigadier Arthur Blackburn who had been captured on Java, that he deliberately directed his men to retreat from the causeway to let the Japanese land unopposed as he considered his position to be hopeless.[15] He was conscious of the lives of his men and did not wish to see them wasted defending British Malaya.[4]
Maxwell was a source of frustration to Bennett for repeatedly requesting permission to retreat.
….but Callaghan reluctantly stated that Australian units had been affected by the desertion of many men toward the end of the battle.
In analysing the campaign, Clifford Kinvig, a senior lecturer at Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, points the finger of blame at the commander of the 27th Brigade, Brigadier Duncan Maxwell, for his defeatist attitude and not properly defending the sector between the Causeway and the Kranji River. Elphick also claims that Australians made up the majority of stragglers. According to another source, Taylor cracked under the pressure.
and Harold Burfield Taylor
Harold Burfield Taylor - Wikipedia
This led to more clashes with Bennett, who felt that Taylor, by requesting to establish fallback positions, was too pessimistic in his defence arrangements.
The brigade later withdrew to Singapore Island, its three battalions taking up positions across an eight-mile front on the north western coast of the island.
On the night of 8 February, the Japanese launched landings on Taylor's sector, forcing his brigade into a fighting withdrawal. The Japanese advance may have been assisted by Taylor's directions to his platoon and company commanders to withdraw back to their headquarters position if they felt in danger of being overrun.
It's called Dicktenk not Sentinel ;)
I don’t know why but I enjoy Lloyd being corrected by the Chieftain...😂
I've been in an example of this tank at Ft. Knox. The loose mount gun is handled by the gunner/loader/commander like a normal machine gun on a pintle with something like a shoulder stock. While the vehicle is moving you can provide some degree of stabilization, much like how the bow machine gun being in a ball mount let it fire somewhat effectively on the move. Somewhat.
The German Wehrmacht used in the earlier stages of the war tanks, which werent of better quality than the tanks that were shown in the video. Many tanks were Panzer 1, a tank equipped with two machine guns.
Well but Panzer I did nice his job.So it wasn’t bad considering his specifications.
Panzer I was a training tank.