Hey Panzer, in answer to your question at the end - yes, these info videos are amazing! Also, if you need help with German pronunciations, happy to help haha, for example experimentalentwicklung is pronounced as exper-e-men-ta-lent-vick-lung
I loved the video! And honestly it is even more engaging and informative since you actually served in a tank, it adds so much more depth :D Leopard 2 is one of my favorite modern tanks. Its design is just too right.
Aaaaand we just received our Leopard2A7HUs 😁😁😁, and I even worked in their hangars as an electrician with my dad! Also yeah we will take part in the development of the Panther sadly or not sadly just the 120mm gun instead of the 130 will be equiped, but I guess in terms of logistics it was the best decission. The fact that we....well he....that thing that we call Prime Minister announced this on TikTok is just soooo embarassing...like the whole Government but it's politics. So yeah I'm happy to see you cover this subject, you proved my point with it. Also as the wide man said in that announcement the two predator won't go alone to the battlefield as he said "Hiúzt gyártunk..." which means "We produce Lynx" so yeah the battlebuddy of the two MBTs is the KF41 Lynx...which is just a cheaper version of the PUMA but with a really cool hard kill APS system by Rheinmetall called Strikeshield. So yeah the German big cats bring fear to the battlefield since 1942. Well thank you for the video, you made my day with it.
@@flummi6966 I'm sorry but I can't agree with you, I mean the Schützenpanzer PUMA and the KF41 Lynx literally use the same 30mm autocannon (MK 30-2/ABM) which can fire proper APFSDS rounds and ATGMs (SpikeLR2). The KF41 has a hard kill APS system while the PUMA has a soft kill one, plus the Lynx can launch UAVs. While the Marder has a 20mm Autocannon (only APDS avaiable for it as far as I know) and MILAN ATGM which is quite old model, but I don't know if it got any modernization. Plus the Lynx has better mobility and way more modern fire control system. Calling the Lynx Marder ++ is like calling the AK-74 Sturmgewhr 44++ or M1 Garand++ or calling the M249 Saw MG42++.
Want to know the best thing about the Leo 2A7? Its not even the most modern verwion of the tank. The Leo2A8 is already here and is being manufactured for many countries like czechia, germany (obviously lol), Norway too i think and some other countries. And it is even more protected than the already good 2A7 variant
Goverment talking to Rheinmetall. G: Tank not perfect, make better. R: Tank great no need make better G: we will give you moooooney *Rheinmetall literally 5 seconds later* R: Here you have a better Leopard, and as bonus, if you decide you hate the french again, a whole diffrent new prototype!
I was in love with this video after 4 seconds. I only have one note to add, that being that you didn't mention the differences between L44, L55, and L55A1. Other than that, keep making videos like this!
love that Video. Only a little improvement towards the question if the German military will replace the Leopard 2 with the KF51: At the moment it doesnt seem like that because Germany has a joint research with France on a new Tank System. And Although that there have been some news about it having problems and rumors about a possibloe cancelation of the project... I think that as long as the project is running, the Leopard 2 wont be replaced by the KF51. Also the KF51 is somewhat a technology-demonstrator in terms of german military. But good job
Really like the video! I would be super interested in any South Korean vehicles, since Poland and other countires seem to be shifting towards them, over traditional arms exporters.
me liky this content ^^ id suggest the k2 black panther from south corea(and now poland? yes i read right, poland has them now o.O) wanna hear your thoughts on some stuff they put into that and it just has an awsome history on how it was developed and if the k2 doesnt get the spotlight then maby japans type 10? the mbt who didnt got the memo that u need armore ^^
3:30 The Americans were probably never really interested in a license production of the Leo 2, at least not the ones in charge of evaluating the trial. In the 1976 trial the XM-1 met only 48 out of the 77 rated requirements, whereas the Leo 2 met 61. However several high-ranking US Officers, who were involved in the developement of the XM-1, favoured it over the Leo 2AV and the requirements were put into categories such that the XM-1 would "win" more categories than the Leo 2AV.
2 quick corrections, in the german army the 2a5 which is a fancy modernised 2a4 is the most common and the kampfwertsteigerung introducing all the electronics was whilst extremely expensive a must have. It basically gave the leopard a video game like interface that not just showed where all your friends are and what they are doing, but also gave the ability of communicating identified targets in real time with each other thus enabeling maneuvers such as flanking and positioning to be 100% more accurate and faster. Also worth noting is the KF51 which is still unclear if its ever gonna enter service with the bundeswehr, however certain systems such as the capability to launch and control drones for the tank commander will be standardised in future leopard series tanks due to its proven necessity in recent modern warfare (ukraine). So to say, the leopard and its similar tanks like the KF51 are in some way a test platform that trials new technology for the rest of NATO to then either adapt to their own tanks or purchase upgrades for their existing leopard tanks. PS: Great video, factual, unbiased maybe a bit short and missing some points such as how the leopard 2a4 needs a well trained crew to face modern threats (see turkeys "operation" in syria).
Leopard 2A5 is by no means simply a „fancy modernized 2a4“. With the 2A5 upgrade the turret has been substantially reworked with the gunner’s sight moved to another position, the hydraulic turret drive replaced with an electric one and the internal armor modules replaced by more advanced ones. Plus the added exterior modules. It’s true, that the hull has remained mostly unchanged from later Leopard 2A4 variants as already planned upgrades were meant to address its shortcomings. Bar the gun its the same turret as is used on the base 2A6 variant. It’s also, when simply differentiating by main variants (A5,A6,A7) the least common variant, with the remaining 19(!) tanks of this variant only being used for representing opposing forces in training.
You've forgot the main benefit against the Abrams. It's the L55A1 gun. Much higher penetration and programble ammo to fight targets behind walls.... The Challenger 3 becomes the same gun
Great video, Panzi, just a small correction - or addition - at the end. The KF-51 Panther currently isn't the tank Germany aims to replace the Leopard 2 with. The Leopard 3 currently runs under the project named MGCS - Main Ground Combat System. It's a joint project of Germany and France and should not only replace the Leo 2 but also the Leclerc.
I have a lot of doubts that project would win against the KF51 Panther. Then again I also thought the M8 project would win against the M10 Booker. Then again (again) everytime France and Germany work on somthing together they always end up parting ways and doing whatever thy want (Leo 1 and AMX 30 vibes).
It's just speculation on my part. I was just discussing Rheinmetall's future vehicles and where that fits in. In all likelihood, bits of pieces of things will come together and make the next Gen tank eventually
Can't believe I'm not able to escape from orbán, I'm a hungarian guy who moved to Finland, since I'm here I saw him almost just as many times as at home and now I saw him in your video. Anyways, like your videos and would like to watch one about the kf51.
There are SO many variations of the Leopard-2 that it's almost impossible to give an overview of them. Basically, you say what you want, and Rheinmetall and KMW will try to put it together for you from stock parts. Obviously within reason of technological constraints but after that it's more or less a question of budget.
4:09 im pretty they only tested it agaisnt chrysler's prototype, the one with the angular turret not the first design turret (also im very greatful you didnt go the route certain leopard fanboys go where they think germany was the under dog in that situation)
@@gameboosted007 no it does not. Leopard 2A8 is a Leopard 2A7V with Trophy and in some cases a FLW200 RWS. There is no new designed turret and chassis. Its the same as Leo2A7V. And Leo2A7V is an A7. Here major changes happened with new composite armor etc, but still its a conversion of A6. You might confuse it with KF-51. But KF-51 is a Leo2A4 with add on armor and a turret conversion.
I only didn't include 2A8 because of too little information to discuss anything in the video. Probably should have still mentioned it but I didn't want to just say it's name and then leave it at that lol
I dont care if it was a waste of money. I LOVE my new Leopard 2A6. The neighbours don't like the noice and the police advice me to deactivate the gun but otherwise I love it. Even BMW drivers leave my rear bumper alone.
some people say theres a 2A8 variant? like the picture you showed where the KF51 was built around the existing Leo 2A7V picture. so im getting mixed signals wether this 2A8 is real or absolute BS for the time being.
I’ve never played warthunder before and know better (I already play osrs I dont need more digital crack) And honestly I didn’t even realise till like halfway through
I don't care if it was a waste of money I don't regret buying the German Premium Leopard 2A4
It most certainly isn’t a waste. The 2a4 is an amazing tank
We German main suffer from level 20 premium leo2A4 player
@@bagelmaster2498 i know but I say it's a waste because I could just grind to get to top tier and lose 5 years of my life
@@thybonheng1485 yea you right
Please don’t tell me you’re the player who joins, dies twice and leaves
WE NEED MORE TANK OVERVIEWS
We need more history videos from you panzer :)
0:21
it goes hard
yea
2:03 this goes hard
@@cocojambo4487it is footage from the test phase of the leopard 2 from the 1980s, so it’s old footage, but it does go pretty hard
Hey Panzer, in answer to your question at the end - yes, these info videos are amazing! Also, if you need help with German pronunciations, happy to help haha, for example experimentalentwicklung is pronounced as exper-e-men-ta-lent-vick-lung
100%
Nicht schlecht
3:15 Some Dudes double-checking if they live to see another Day😂
Deutsche Qualität 🫡
This man’s content is too good to only have 58k subs, not that that is low, but this man deserves as much as even the best history/gaming channels
@@FireTurtle-cc1tq indeed
I loved the video! And honestly it is even more engaging and informative since you actually served in a tank, it adds so much more depth :D
Leopard 2 is one of my favorite modern tanks. Its design is just too right.
absolutely loved this, make more like this!
Aaaaand we just received our Leopard2A7HUs 😁😁😁, and I even worked in their hangars as an electrician with my dad! Also yeah we will take part in the development of the Panther sadly or not sadly just the 120mm gun instead of the 130 will be equiped, but I guess in terms of logistics it was the best decission. The fact that we....well he....that thing that we call Prime Minister announced this on TikTok is just soooo embarassing...like the whole Government but it's politics. So yeah I'm happy to see you cover this subject, you proved my point with it. Also as the wide man said in that announcement the two predator won't go alone to the battlefield as he said "Hiúzt gyártunk..." which means "We produce Lynx" so yeah the battlebuddy of the two MBTs is the KF41 Lynx...which is just a cheaper version of the PUMA but with a really cool hard kill APS system by Rheinmetall called Strikeshield. So yeah the German big cats bring fear to the battlefield since 1942.
Well thank you for the video, you made my day with it.
Nah Lynx is Marder ++ , Puma is different .
@@flummi6966 I'm sorry but I can't agree with you, I mean the Schützenpanzer PUMA and the KF41 Lynx literally use the same 30mm autocannon (MK 30-2/ABM) which can fire proper APFSDS rounds and ATGMs (SpikeLR2). The KF41 has a hard kill APS system while the PUMA has a soft kill one, plus the Lynx can launch UAVs. While the Marder has a 20mm Autocannon (only APDS avaiable for it as far as I know) and MILAN ATGM which is quite old model, but I don't know if it got any modernization. Plus the Lynx has better mobility and way more modern fire control system. Calling the Lynx Marder ++ is like calling the AK-74 Sturmgewhr 44++ or M1 Garand++ or calling the M249 Saw MG42++.
@@flummi6966 KF31 is Marder++ , KF41 is a new platform.
Want to know the best thing about the Leo 2A7? Its not even the most modern verwion of the tank. The Leo2A8 is already here and is being manufactured for many countries like czechia, germany (obviously lol), Norway too i think and some other countries. And it is even more protected than the already good 2A7 variant
Goverment talking to Rheinmetall.
G: Tank not perfect, make better.
R: Tank great no need make better
G: we will give you moooooney
*Rheinmetall literally 5 seconds later*
R: Here you have a better Leopard, and as bonus, if you decide you hate the french again, a whole diffrent new prototype!
PanzerPaw you are such a joy to watch, even at 1 am.
(Btw can you make a small vid on the m22.)
Yay my flag (sg) is in backround in first scene!
I was in love with this video after 4 seconds.
I only have one note to add, that being that you didn't mention the differences between L44, L55, and L55A1. Other than that, keep making videos like this!
Appreciate the video. Pls make something similar, it's very informative and interesting.
Great video, would like to see the Panther next
We need more history from you
love that Video. Only a little improvement towards the question if the German military will replace the Leopard 2 with the KF51: At the moment it doesnt seem like that because Germany has a joint research with France on a new Tank System. And Although that there have been some news about it having problems and rumors about a possibloe cancelation of the project... I think that as long as the project is running, the Leopard 2 wont be replaced by the KF51. Also the KF51 is somewhat a technology-demonstrator in terms of german military.
But good job
I think Rheinmetall put a bet on the project failing and them having the solution that is now missing.
More or less, yes. The operational version of KF-51 might not replace Leo, but in Rheinmetall's eyes, it's their bid for future sales.
I would love to see a video on the STRV123A! I haven't been able to find a lot of info about it.
I would like to see something like this more. Maybe the Challenger.
Really like the video! I would be super interested in any South Korean vehicles, since Poland and other countires seem to be shifting towards them, over traditional arms exporters.
just politics especially and always with poland
This was fun, thank you
Wow the Australian and Singaporean flag is quite interesting as a background
This video was great panzer, could you cover the Abrams next since it was developed from the mbt 70 as well.
I love that kind of video! Take the Puma next!!
Fun fact: Leo2s have the cutest little traffic horn. Beep beep it goes, just like Herbie. 😂
This is true! It's very much like a 70s beetle horn lol
@@PanzerPaw I wouldn't be surprised if it was the exact same part. It was mass produced anyway and therefore cheap, so why reinvent the wheel? 😂
It concerns me that I somehow DID NOT see this coming...
Nice touch with the Flags
7:50 love it
Sweden doesn't have them they upgraded it and named it stridsvagn 122
The Swedes didn't upgrade them. It was a German upgrade the Swedes bought. And their Leopard 2A4 is also called Stridsvagn 121.
They should DEFINITELY add the leo2a8
Make more of these videos this was my favourite video of yours.
me liky this content ^^
id suggest the k2 black panther from south corea(and now poland? yes i read right, poland has them now o.O)
wanna hear your thoughts on some stuff they put into that and it just has an awsome history on how it was developed
and if the k2 doesnt get the spotlight then maby japans type 10? the mbt who didnt got the memo that u need armore ^^
Its thin armor mobility is nullified in an age with full recon and cheap explosive drones from above at any part of the frontline
3:30 The Americans were probably never really interested in a license production of the Leo 2, at least not the ones in charge of evaluating the trial.
In the 1976 trial the XM-1 met only 48 out of the 77 rated requirements, whereas the Leo 2 met 61. However several high-ranking US Officers, who were involved in the developement of the XM-1, favoured it over the Leo 2AV and the requirements were put into categories such that the XM-1 would "win" more categories than the Leo 2AV.
It's comical that the Hungarian government spends more than $100,000,000 every year on propaganda, and they still can't make a proper announcement 😂
Must watch panzerpaw, proceeds to watch every single video
@@keyeah0 ?
i love this video,please make more videos like this
2 quick corrections, in the german army the 2a5 which is a fancy modernised 2a4 is the most common and the kampfwertsteigerung introducing all the electronics was whilst extremely expensive a must have. It basically gave the leopard a video game like interface that not just showed where all your friends are and what they are doing, but also gave the ability of communicating identified targets in real time with each other thus enabeling maneuvers such as flanking and positioning to be 100% more accurate and faster. Also worth noting is the KF51 which is still unclear if its ever gonna enter service with the bundeswehr, however certain systems such as the capability to launch and control drones for the tank commander will be standardised in future leopard series tanks due to its proven necessity in recent modern warfare (ukraine). So to say, the leopard and its similar tanks like the KF51 are in some way a test platform that trials new technology for the rest of NATO to then either adapt to their own tanks or purchase upgrades for their existing leopard tanks.
PS: Great video, factual, unbiased maybe a bit short and missing some points such as how the leopard 2a4 needs a well trained crew to face modern threats (see turkeys "operation" in syria).
Leopard 2A5 is by no means simply a „fancy modernized 2a4“. With the 2A5 upgrade the turret has been substantially reworked with the gunner’s sight moved to another position, the hydraulic turret drive replaced with an electric one and the internal armor modules replaced by more advanced ones. Plus the added exterior modules. It’s true, that the hull has remained mostly unchanged from later Leopard 2A4 variants as already planned upgrades were meant to address its shortcomings. Bar the gun its the same turret as is used on the base 2A6 variant. It’s also, when simply differentiating by main variants (A5,A6,A7) the least common variant, with the remaining 19(!) tanks of this variant only being used for representing opposing forces in training.
Can you Talk a littel in a Video about you, Like how it was to be a Tank Commander.
intro song with wt menu music goes hard
You've forgot the main benefit against the Abrams. It's the L55A1 gun. Much higher penetration and programble ammo to fight targets behind walls.... The Challenger 3 becomes the same gun
leopard is the modern tank i love most
Great video, Panzi, just a small correction - or addition - at the end. The KF-51 Panther currently isn't the tank Germany aims to replace the Leopard 2 with. The Leopard 3 currently runs under the project named MGCS - Main Ground Combat System. It's a joint project of Germany and France and should not only replace the Leo 2 but also the Leclerc.
I have a lot of doubts that project would win against the KF51 Panther.
Then again I also thought the M8 project would win against the M10 Booker.
Then again (again) everytime France and Germany work on somthing together they always end up parting ways and doing whatever thy want (Leo 1 and AMX 30 vibes).
It's just speculation on my part. I was just discussing Rheinmetall's future vehicles and where that fits in. In all likelihood, bits of pieces of things will come together and make the next Gen tank eventually
Mgcs is more like a program to figure what they want and brainstorm about what works/doesn't.
Can't believe I'm not able to escape from orbán, I'm a hungarian guy who moved to Finland, since I'm here I saw him almost just as many times as at home and now I saw him in your video. Anyways, like your videos and would like to watch one about the kf51.
I LOVE THESE VIDEOS!!!
i must watch every vid
More please!
Do more videos like this! Do more videos like this! Do more videos like this!
There are SO many variations of the Leopard-2 that it's almost impossible to give an overview of them. Basically, you say what you want, and Rheinmetall and KMW will try to put it together for you from stock parts. Obviously within reason of technological constraints but after that it's more or less a question of budget.
It is so hilarious that you put Orbán Viktor into the video.
I want more rewievs of tanks. Next one the Ariete if possible
This tank is main reason why I am playing war thunder 😅
4:09 im pretty they only tested it agaisnt chrysler's prototype, the one with the angular turret not the first design turret (also im very greatful you didnt go the route certain leopard fanboys go where they think germany was the under dog in that situation)
talk about targets next please
Targets, eh? Ok I'll do T-90
Tank review about the Challenger 2
Do this kind of video on all war thunder top tier tanks plus K2 from South Korea.
Im very keen on WW 2 Vehicles eo maybe other Nations MBTs and APCs?
Examples: Ariete, CV 90, Challenger 2/3
K2 Black Panther, Leclerc, Type 10 etc.
loved the vid, can you do the t90m next?
Now I want the bobs semple tank review!!1!1!
(And yes, I know I am late.)
Like u I also served in the L2SG camo net sucks
Thank you! OMG it was the worst!
I honest do like the Leopard tank but i prefer the Merkavas
(Totally not personal bias since i work in one)
as far as i know there is a program to research a tank that should replace the leopard 2 but its possible release is in the 2030s
You should do the counter of leopard 2, T90M
Really nice
8:59 The Leopard on the left picture is actually the new Leopard 2A8 and not a 2A7
It's supposedly a 2A7+ with Trophy APS. Although, the 2A8 more or less looks the same.
@@PanzerPaw Oh ok :)
Have you seen the concept of the "Löwe"/LXX Tank?
Do a video on all top tier war thunder countries tanks.
More? Please?
Under one hour >>>
Great Video😂
I like this new Channel teaching us? I’d sub ngl
MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIASSSSS
The tech tree is the same as premuim
2A8 ?
2A8 is basicly a 2A7V with Trophy added.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 it has a whole new chassie and hull tey look alike but aint the same
@@gameboosted007 no it does not.
Leopard 2A8 is a Leopard 2A7V with Trophy and in some cases a FLW200 RWS.
There is no new designed turret and chassis. Its the same as Leo2A7V.
And Leo2A7V is an A7. Here major changes happened with new composite armor etc, but still its a conversion of A6.
You might confuse it with KF-51.
But KF-51 is a Leo2A4 with add on armor and a turret conversion.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 ow could be the panther, yeah i probebly got confused
I only didn't include 2A8 because of too little information to discuss anything in the video. Probably should have still mentioned it but I didn't want to just say it's name and then leave it at that lol
I like this vidéo you are the best
Can you please play cursed tank simulator again? i Love your Videos
Italy is gonna buy the Leopard 2a8, badly
great presentation of einstein level german engineering
Can you play world of tanks in future?
Nice Video 🫡
Commander how much is it to buy it
I dont care if it was a waste of money. I LOVE my new Leopard 2A6. The neighbours don't like the noice and the police advice me to deactivate the gun but otherwise I love it. Even BMW drivers leave my rear bumper alone.
some people say theres a 2A8 variant? like the picture you showed where the KF51 was built around the existing Leo 2A7V picture. so im getting mixed signals wether this 2A8 is real or absolute BS for the time being.
It's real. The KF51 is a separate project to the 2A8
There is a 2A8. Based on 2A7HUN with Trophy APS.
Is panzerPaw actually in the Military or is he just nerdy (not as insult)
Italy getting 2A7s lesgo
Drones: laughs
Mantis: laughs
next abrams pls
Curious. Which military did you serve in?
Think in Singapore
Singapore, hence the mention of L2SG
We Brits still use bloody cam nets, during commanders training and every exercise after 😂🤦💀
Oh man it was the worst! Sweating in the heat putting the stupid net up only for it to fall on you in the middle of the night ugh
I’m willing to trade the leopard for the BVM take it I don’t want it anymore TAKE IT
yes
Please can you play the leopard 2a7v on war thunder again. That would be awsome
I’ve never played warthunder before and know better (I already play osrs I dont need more digital crack)
And honestly I didn’t even realise till like halfway through
Even in Team Yankee World War 3 the Leopard 2 is a good tank.
theres already a leo 2A8
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8:09 Me too man, me too
Play the abrams 120s
America was so jealous it took them 3 nerfs.