The best $25 DAC/AMP for 250 ohm headphones
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Oftentimes, when talking about HiFi, people will agree that cheap means of poor quality. Therefore, a $25 DAC/amp that can power studio headphones up to 300 ohms while sounding great shouldn't be possible. Yet, the Play 3! from Sound Blaster is exactly that - a $25 ($19.99 on sale) USB portable DAC/amp that comes from a reputable brand and claims to be able to drive your 250 ohms Beyerdynamics or 300 ohms Sennheisers. So is there a catch? Let's find out together in this video.
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I am Andrew Dandrew, a man on a mission - to search this universe for answers to important existential questions such as why do we eat cake on our birthdays :) Hope you have a great time watching my videos.
I just got the DT-770Pro and ordered the Play3! directly alongside it. And I can CONFIRM. It is absolutely enough, and you can fully enjoy the headphones with that simple small DAC.
Disclaimer: I am talking as a gaming enthusiast and avid music lover... By no means an audiophile…
Thank you for the suggestion Andrew! 🙏🏾
i’m getting the same combo as you how those headphones sound?
@dxerkin4 i really LOVE the headphones. Very very good sound. Very balanced sound with the bass when it counts and enough for anyone that doesn't know enough but can differentiate good sound from shit sound 😁
@@Siik94Skillzthanks bro
i got the bt 990 pros the 250 and have it paired with my 2i2 but it’s lacking to power them enough do you think i should get this or some other sort of amp/dac i’ve been doing slot of research and all i’ve been seeing is if i got the 80ohms i’d be having a lot less issues
You the goat andrew thank you just in time for when i bought my 250 770
Great choice, Sergio! Enjoy them :)
THESE DONT WORK WITH BEYERDYNAMIC DT 990 250 OHM MY PC IS LOUDER 😅
did u find any solution to this, having the same issue
Hey, thanks for this video .... I recently bought the dt 770 pro 80 ohm version but they are not loud enough for my liking and was considering investing in behringer UM2/UMC22 to get the headphones properly powered up and enjoy a better sound overall.
Would you recommend getting the Play 3 over an audio interface to get the best out of my headphones? My primary uses are mostly listening to electronic music and producing some as a hobby however i dont really plan to record any instruments. I am mostly just looking to get my headphones sounding the best they could at a relatively low budget since most of my budget already got used up for the headphones itself.
Hey Param. Honestly, since you don't plan to record, I would tell you to get the Play 3. The UM2/UMC22 interfaces, while solid budget options overall, don't feature great headphone outs, so you won't push your headphones to their maximum potential using either. They do come with ASIO drivers for lower latencies while producing, but you can always use ASIO4ALL with the Play 3 and get a low enough latency. Hope this helps!
Hey i'm planning on buying the same combo, was the amp worth it?
I got the DT990 Pro (80 ohms version) so would you say for the lower impedance, the Play! 4 is better in this regard?
hey did yo end up getting the play 3/4? I'm in the same boat with the 80 ohms and not sure if I should buy or not.
@@Monke503. Hey man, sucks that you also didn't get a response..
I got the Play 4 first and tested it out. To my surprise, after two days or so, it started buzzing horrendously. Tested longer, then returned it because it definitely should not be doing that. Got a new one, tried it out. Not even 10 minutes later, same buzzing happened. Not saying that will also happen with your device but I don't know if it's because of the 80 ohms or if the Play 4 isn't as great as it sounds. I had a bad experience in general and just returned it completely, deciding I don't want to blow my ears out and I don't need a DAC so I'm only using the small $5-10 Apple one.
Hope that helps, wishing ya good luck!
@@Adraverse i see thank you, i actaully ended up getting the play 3 with overnight shipping so I using it rn, and while I don't think it fully uses the headphones potential, they sound way better, and louder, so maby try it with the play 3 idk , thank you though
@@Monke503. Oh I see, I have heard that the Play 3 had less issues. Glad it works out for you.
I'll defo check it out, thank you as well!
Hi Andrew thank you for this information about this amp/dac. I'm in search for some high quality studio headphones I'm stuck between the Beyerdynamics dt 990 pros and the dt 770 pros. I'm leaning towards the dt 990s thanks to one of your previous videos, but I am still a little unsure. I plan to use these to game and listen to music such as hard rock. which pair of headphones would you recommend?
Hey man! I use my DT990 at home while gaming and while listening to music, and I would recommend you to get them as well. Being open, they have a better soundstage - which is great for both games and music. Hope this helps!
@@odysseyofcuriosity Thank you so much!
Hi, Andrew I plan to buy dt 770 Pros 250 Ohm version to use it with my samsung so I need a portable amp+dac with USB Type-C Input powerful enough get that sound clarity per volume. What would reccomend? I'd like to get reccomendations about autonomous version with a built-in battery so the phone isn't downcharged by 25 seconds of listening)
you save me, the introduction to the video described me so well lmao
where do you get this software from i cannot find it anywhere thankyou in advance love the content
Me too
i dont have words for how much I love you right now!!
Dude. How the fuck are you at 2k subs with this content...
Hi Andrew, thanks for your video. I was hoping you could give me some advice. I am considering getting the beyerdynamic DT770 or DT990 at 250ohms. As a headphone amp i was initially considering the Behringer HA400 as it costs $25. Since the Play3 costs around the same, could you advise me on what the positive/negatives are for both? I plan to use this setup for producing music and eventually mastering. Thanks for the reply!
Hi! I actually own both, so here's my view on them. The HA400 is a great little thing for what it does (distributing a signal to multiple listeners), and you can't really ask for more from it for the price - but its outputs aren't clean. It has got quite a bit of harmonic distortion. It's great to use when you simply want 4 people to listen to the same signal without caring too much about sound quality (when tracking a band in a studio, for example) - but for getting the most out of your headphones on a small budget, I would always pick the SB Play 3. Not to mention that you also get a DAC at that price. Hope this helps!
@@odysseyofcuriosity thanks a lot for your quick reply and your great insight and content! I will buy the play 3 through your link!!
@@rancidhotmail Hi! Im thinking of buying the dt770 pro 80ohm or 250 ohm with the Play3. I wanted to know your experience with it. Did it sound good? Thanks
@@Cookies-uy8ffhi, i got the 250ohm combined with the play3. It works perfectly well. I think if youre going to get the play3, it makes more sense to the get 250ohm. hope that helps
Can I use it for PS5 ?
I don't have a PS5 to test, but chances are it won't work that well with a PS5 unfortunately. If I ever get the chance to test it with a PS5 somewhere, I'll get back to you.
Andrew just a word of advice. I can tell you want your videos to look and sound professional. Hence, the music in the background while you are talking. But...... it's a bad idea. I want to hear you speak, not yell when you speak. Your yelling along with the annoying background music is just a turn off to people that need to focus on what you are saying. Please Andrew don't take this comment is a negative hater comment. I'm not that. That's why I took time of my life for this constructive moment.
I agree and I definitely need to keep this in mind. Thank you for taking your time to give me the feedback!
@@odysseyofcuriosity 👍
Hey man I'm looking to buy headphones and stuck between HIFIMAN HE400SE or beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO(250 OHM) plan on using them for gaming and general use (yt, movies, music, etc)
I was in the same predicament as you, bought the 400se, but wasn't fully convinced and so ordered the dt 990s too. They have different strengths but I definitely prefer the clarity of the 990s, I've yet to see if amping both of them changes things and maybe the real quality of the 400se is actually bottlenecked. All the comparisons I read prefer the 400se over the dt990 but that's definitely not my experience, although I wouldn't call them bad exactly, I'm kinda underwhelmed...
I've changed back and forth over the last few days and got pretty used to the HE400. And now that I got a DACAMP (Sound Blaster X G6) I must say that the bottleneck is nullified and both headphones sound amazing, so it really is a matter of personal preference. Without an equalizer I may even prefer the 400SE. I think it's because I always listened to high trebble and got used to the more bassy side now...
I couldnt even download the software on mh mac -.-
What would you recommend as a really good dac/amp combo at a mid range price for dt 770s? I might get this but i also am up to spend a bit more
I would recommend a Topping L30/E30 stack. They are seen as an awesome deal for their price, and I'm very happy with my L30. Hope this helps!
@@odysseyofcuriosityHey man, would you say it’s necessary to get both, or just an L30?
In can be used with phone but probably with OTG connection cable..
Will it be enough to power the DT 990 PRO 250 OHM ?
Yes
you should probably obviously have it in a usb 3.0 just to make sure that it supplies enough power
I wonder if there is a work around for the phone. Like and app that allows for direct USB. like how one gets the apple USB-C dongle to work. The FiiO Musci App and the HiBy Music App can use full control of the USB. Even ask when you plug an audio device "Open HiByMusic to handle +insert device name+?" with a warning that "using HiByMusic with this device might prevent hearing calls, notifications and alarms. " Which is fine if you aren't expecting any. Or if you are using your previous device as a music player.
Icurrently use my previous phone as music player. But been an LG V40 I don't need a DAC now. But neat device to have around. Heck even as a splitter. Like, if your laptop has a single 3.5 and you need them separated. With how much some Y cables cost. Might as well get something like this.
hey man, love the video, but would this work on 80ohm version? and if so would it be plug n play or would I have to mess with the setting in the app, also if not then what should I get?
It will definitely work with the 80 ohms. And yes, it will be plug and play. It should get the 80 ohms loud enough by default, without needing to tweak settings. Hope this helps!
@@odysseyofcuriosity thank you so much, i actaully got them with overnight shipping so I'm using it right now, and yeah complete night and day difference, btw one last question can I set it to the higher gain option in the app? or is that only for 300ohmheadphones?
@@Monke503. Nice! Yes, you can switch it to the higher gain option, but be careful! Only do this if you really feel you need to (so if currently the headphones are way to quiet), as you don't want to listen to very loud levels for prolonged periods. I know it can be fun :D, but you could damage both your hearing and in extreme cases the headphones themselves. Enjoy your setup!
Hello i hope somebody can i help me. i just bought the DDT 990 PRO 250 Ohm and i just plugged them in into my mainboard and even on 100 Volume they are not that loud. I bought the Sound Blaster Play 4! is that a good AMP/DAC or should i save some money and buy something else. i just want to game and listen to music. I listen to rap and sometimes phonk. Thank you.
The Play 3 that I showcase in this video has a special 300 ohm mode which makes it handle 250 ohm headphones very well. The Play 4 doesn't, so unfortunately (as you probably found out by now) it won't reach extreme loudness either. I mention all of this in the video, give it a watch if you want to learn more.
What should i get the dt 990 pro 250 ohms woth sound blasterx g6 or the sennheiser hd 600 with the play 3,and i wont be using it for mixing i will jist watch shows on my pc
What do you think, is it worth buying the Blaster Play! 4 for $56? shipping to serbia is 31 dollars :/
Just a note, the Play 4! is different, it's not a simple "upgrade" (I talk about this at the end of the video). That being said, isn't there any local retailer selling it, so you can avoid the shipping cost?
@@odysseyofcuriosity oh yea misslick :D i meant 3, thanks for reminding me that there is possibility to buy it localy, there is actually only one store that sells it :D
I have had the 770 pro for my birthday unfortunatly I dont have a DAC AMP and it sounds well... limited and very poor compared to my ARCTIC PRO gaming HIGH RES inclued dac :( Is this normal???
Which mobile amp/ dac for my android phone would you recommend for 80ohms? (with usb c and under $30)
Hey man! For $30 I'd probably get something like this: amzn.to/3Q2i8ZY . But if you can raise the budget a bit more, maybe look into this FiiO: amzn.to/3Q1TnNz . They are a well respected company and I personally love my BTR3. Hope this helps!
Hi. Thanks for a great video! I'm totally new to the amp needing headphones and I just bought some Sennheisers HD400 pro thinking I could just use them on my pc.
Will this be enough to power them properly or will a "real" amp sound a lot better (with better bass for instance?)
Hey man. Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. To be honest, since you are new, I would recommend you to get this Play 3. It's got more than enough power for the HD400 and it has a good software EQ you can play with. It will give you a good taste of what a dedicated dac/amp can improve and then, if you really want even more, you can spend the big bucks. Good luck!
@@odysseyofcuriosity Thank you for your reply. I will try it out :)
Hi Andrew, just purchased the DT 770 pro 80 ohms headset and the sound is underwhelming to say the least. Do you have any recommendations for an amp or device to make it sound better? I'm practically new to all this headset business and I just have no idea what an amp/dac does. All I really want to know is what device I need to purchase to get the best out of the headphones, amd if you have any in mind then please let me know :)
Hey Sam! Since you are just getting into this, how about you start with something on the cheaper end, just so you can see if this is actually for you? I have a video titled "The best $25 DAC/AMP for 250 ohm headphones" - check it out here: ruclips.net/video/f5y8Ii5ubPU/видео.html . This should give you a good taste of what an amp/dac does without breaking the bank. Hope this helps! Good luck!
@@odysseyofcuriosity You just linked the video he is already on.
Should u plug this into the front or the motherboard ?
It works in any USB port, so use the one that's the most convenient for your setup 👍
Any idea if the Fiio Q3 are good enough for the Beyerdynamics Dt 770 pro (250 ohm)?
Is there something like this for an a/v receiver?
Just ordered 300ohm headphones.
and I PLANNED on just plugging them in to my Sony DH790 receiver.
of course there is no information on the headphone jack specs.
Am I screwed for the great sound I assumed I was going to get?
I'm thinking about buying the 990 pros. I already have a GoXLR Mini. Will this DAC/AMP work with the GoXLR?
nice video, im torn between buying the play 3 or the play 4 as a gift for someone, nice video with good info, thank you
So this works with both 3 pole and 4 pole connectors?
Dose it work on ps5
hello im going to buy the dt 990 pro headphones today and i wanted to know if i would have to buy the usb extension cord and the double sided pads too?
Hello..! I bought DT 770 pro 250 ohms Headphone. After watching this video I got creative play 3 too. But still I feel they are not loud enough to me. Please give the solution. I enable 300 ohms headphone option in play 3 software and I tried everything in my besy. 😢
Hey dude did you find a solution??
Thinking about getting one for HD650. What is it Vrms, mA current and mW power?
Question: when I use a USB dac, my headphones get a constant thumping noise (usb c or usb 2 or usb 3) but if I plug the same headphones into my computer's headphone jack there is no constant thumping noise. Do you know what causes this problem?
If you tried multiple USB DACs and all of them manifested this issue, it sounds to me like you could have a ground loop somewhere in your system. This little device is meant to fix exactly this type of problem: amzn.to/3E4WDBT . Unfortunately, it's not really cheap, but try it out if possible - it might fix your issue. Keep in mind, this link I shared is an Amazon affiliate link, meaning I get a small commission from Amazon if you end up buying it (with no extra cost to you). If that's not ok with you, the name of the device is "iFi Defender" and you can easily find it on Amazon. Hope this helps. Good luck 🤞
I have scarlett solo Gen4 and dt770 250ohm. Sadly looooooooooooooooow sound. I need amp i think for this headphone. What you prefer me?
You can look into the Topping L30 or L30 II dedicated amp (I own the first version, but meanwhile they came up with the L30 II) - I can confirm it works great with the DT770 250 ohms, and it shouldn't break the bank. The price to quality ratio is also very good. Hope this helps!
@@odysseyofcuriosity I hope but when i checked, its not sale on Turkey and coming from aliexpress. Its 6000 Turkish lira which is so expensive. I am thinking send my 770pro to back and sell my scarlett solo dunno my head is so confused.
Sorry to hear that! If you don't need the exclusive features of your Scarlett (ASIO/XLR/instrument inputs), you could maybe keep the headphones and go with the Sound Blaster I show in the video. Otherwise, maybe it's easier to just sell your current setup and get some 32 or 80 ohm DT 770 Pros and call it a day. Hope this helps!
So this will make my pc noise/buzzing louder?
Love to see that Creative is still in the quality sound card game. At 22€ this is really a no-brainer. I'm not interested in high impedence headphones, but I do appreciate high quality sound. And high quality is not something I can get with the Realtek and Intel chipsets (more like cheapsets) in my devices.
That, and it's a Sound Blaster. I've got a whole collection of old Sound Blasters and they are all still amazing. They would totally hold up in 2024 if not for the ISA and PCI interfaces.
so the volume gets higher?
@@simyaye6343 No. The volume is the same, but the sound is better. Voices are clearer, bass is stronger, high tones like cymbals are more prominent, etc.
People say onboard audio is "good enough", but if everyone tried what a good sound card sounds like, they would have a different opinion.
But keep in mind that if you have a high end motherboard, it may even have a good sound card integrated on the board. In that case it doesn't make much sense to go out and buy an external audio solution.
would it be good for a HIFIMAN HE-X4?
Should I enable high gain if I have 250 ohm dt990 pros?
Yes. This is not a set-in-stone rule, but if on low gain you feel the headphones aren't loud enough even with the volume slider max, then take the headphones off, slide the volume control to 20% and then enable high gain. You can then put them back on your head and slowly increase the volume until you feel they're loud enough. This will make them go much louder on max and should fix the problem. Just keep in mind to protect your hearing too (don't listen at extremely loud levels for a very long time). Hope this helps!
so your telling me I can use 250 ohm with 25 dollar sound plaster? Because I just bought it and I bought the dt990 pro 250 ohm and I’m waiting for them
does it work?
Hi andrew i just bought this dac for my Oneodio 80 but somehow kinda feels lacking power untill i turn on the crystalizer, do u have any budget recommendations?
Did you make sure to switch the Play! 3 to the high gain mode? This is needed for it to be able to drive up to 300 ohms.
So I have the dt 770 80 ohms for my pc and was wondering if this little device will do anything to improve the audio experience for editing.
Do you have any sort of issues with your current setup? Is there something specific you would like to improve? This little DAC has plenty of power (so it should be great for editing with the DT 770 80 ohms) and sounds great for the price, but it's hard to know how much of an improvement it can bring to your experience.
this DAC amp is enough for dt990 pro 250ohm for mixing mastering stuff, until I buy a good audio interface?
Any answer mate ?
Thanks friend you helped me in my purchasing decision.
8:18 what microphone was that? that would be perfect for my setup
I want to buy the hifi he-x4 anyone know if this would be enough?
The output impedance of your amplifier will make the biggest improvement to sound. Any of the beyerdynamic 250 ohm drivers dont require much power. It's all about output impedence and gain/voltage.
What amp do you suggest
Hello, can i know which is better the Creative Sound Blaster G3 or the play 3 ( just got the 250 dt990 )
The G3 is a little bit more expensive and has some extra features + a bit better SNR, so if you need these you can get it instead of the Play! 3. Hope this is helpful!
Hello Andrew, i'm a gamer and i'd like to buy some new heaphones. So i was wondering which Beyerdynamic you prefer for gaming and music (i listen to music 2-5h a day and i pay video games all the time), i have a budget of $150.
Hey man. Check out the DT 990, they seem like a great fit for your needs!
@@odysseyofcuriosity i heard these are open headphones, does that mean the people in my room can hear what im listening to. i currently have HyperX Cloud 2 which im loving so much.
That is correct. They will leak a bit of sound, but the good part of this is the immersive soundstage they create, which will help you especially if you play FPS games. As for the Cloud 2s, they are not bad for what they cost, but the Beyerdynamics are from a totally different league.
@@odysseyofcuriosity So since i play video games, which ohms do you recommend, i dont mind buying the $25 amp shown in the video if 250ohms is recommended.
Hi andrew I am interested in upgrading my audio set up and the headphones I am interested in are the Hifiman HE400se which are planar magnetic headphones would this be able to drive them?
Hey man! I don't own the HE400se, but judging from their specifications, this Play! 3 should be able to get them singing. Of course you can get a much more powerful (and expensive) amp, but as a starting point, I think you'll be happy with this combo. Good luck! 🤞
Is it possible for me to use this with a dt 990 pro 250 ohm on a ps4?
it depends, if the ps4 supports usb audio then it will work, otherwise i guess it wont
what is the electric microphone you connected to the play 3?
Hey man, I answered this question in another comment in full detail, so I will copy-paste that answer here too. Hope you don't mind! During the test at 8:20, I used a microphone saved from a broken Cyborg Freq 5 gaming headset. It sounds surprisingly good, but unfortunately, it can't be bought on its own. Instead, you could go with a 3.5mm lapel microphone (you should be able to find a decent one starting at ~$10) - I feel that's practical, as it clips to your t-shirt, has a long wire (that can reach the Play 3) and gets pretty close to your mouth (leading to a better sound). If you don't want it clipped to you, you can also look for a 3.5mm desk microphone. Hope this helps!
Wow, perfect timing! What microphone is that at 8:20 ? And is there enough room to plug both - an electric mic such as yours and the dt 770 250 Ohm headphones in the play 3 at the same time? My idea is I want to buy my first pair of hifi headphones (beyerdynamic dt 770 pro 250 ohm) and also find a workaround to use these headphones for videoconferencing / home office by adding a good quality mic such as the one you showed in the video. Would you recommend this kind of setup or should I search for a headset with an in-build mic (though they don't seen to be hifi from what I have found so far for the same price)?
You have a great plan. I would also go for the DT770 250 ohm + a separate microphone instead of a headset. And yes, you can connect the headphones + a microphone at the same time, there is enough space there. During the test at 8:20, I used a microphone saved from a broken Cyborg Freq 5 gaming headset. It sounds surprisingly good, but unfortunately, it can't be bought on its own. Instead, you could go with a 3.5mm lapel microphone (you should be able to find a decent one starting at ~$10) - I feel that's practical, as it clips to your t-shirt, has a long wire (that can reach the Play 3) and gets pretty close to your mouth (leading to a better sound). If you don't want it clipped to you, you can also look for a 3.5mm desk microphone. Hope this helps!
@@odysseyofcuriosity Great tips, thank you for the effort, I appreciate it!
Hi! My job is to mix. Can I use this amp to drive my Dt990 pro? Will the monitoring accuracy be affected?
Hi! If you turn off all "enhancements" the device will be rather transparent. As long as you keep in mind that in the end your mix will only be as good as your weakest link in the chain (which could be something other than the monitoring output - the Play! 3), you can, for sure, mix on it. Hope this helps!
How mix sounds?
please stop shouting
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M SHOUTING??? I'M NOT SHOUTING!!!
HiBy FC1 would be better ?
Just bought this through your link on Amazon for $17
Nice man, that's a great deal! Did it arrive meanwhile? What do you think about it?
Which headphones do u use? How is this amp?
Can these bring life to my HD560s?!
It depends on what bringing life means to you. If it means more volume/different sound signature (EQ), I would say yes :). It's a great toy to have in your arsenal for the price.
At the moment i have my dt 770 250ohm headphones connected to my hyperx amp/sound card , would you say upgrading to the play 3! would have a noticable difference since im not too happy with my volume / cant hear moving objects in video games from a far that well as id want to
Yes, the Play 3 is a different beast compared to the HyperX (I'm guessing you are talking about the USB dongle that comes with their gaming headsets). I would be surprised if you can't get enough volume from it for your DT770 250 ohms. You have to make sure you install the Play 3 software and set it to run in the 300 ohms mode (it can also operate on a lower max output gain mode, to avoid frying your ears if used with low impedance, sensitive headphones - I think it defaults on that). Good luck!
@@odysseyofcuriosity thanks for the reply but i ordered a topping dx1 instead heard its good for the price and was on a sale
Uh, nice! Glad you could find a good deal. Hope you get to enjoy it for many hours!
@@odysseyofcuriosity thanks man you too
Should I enable high gain while using the DT 990 Pro?
Did you figure it out?
I like to listen to music VERY LOUD, around 95 dB, do you think that this amp on the dt770 80 Ohm will be loud?
Hey man. While I know you know you shouldn't be listening that loud, I'm pretty sure the Play! 3 will be loud enough for you on the DT 770 80 ohms.
@@odysseyofcuriosity will the amp work on an iPhone?
Unfortunately I don't own one, so can't answer this one. Sorry
Will it work and sound well with hd 600
The HD600 are 300 ohm so they are within spec (at the upper limit, to be exact). If you're thinking of getting one, you should be fine!
Thanks for the content!
Does it have audio lag?
Not at all, latency is great on it! Thank you for watching! 😁
Play3 software doesnt work for mac rofl
you serious?|
Hi Andrew, great video. i have a question.
i am on a market for DT 770 pros but cant decide between the 3 ohm version, i have msi gaming laptop (ge63vr) no AMP,
it has "ESS Sabre HiFi audio DAC, supports 24bit / 192kHz" can it run 80ohm, possibly 250 with no amp? or i should just stuck with 32ohm? Main purpose is fps gaming, yt, movies and music. I would already buy 32ohm version but i much prefere the pluchy earpads on 80 and 250 ohm version (32 version have some plastic leather ones) so i either i buy 32ohm + 25usd for earpads or 80/250ohm + 25usd for this device or maybe my laptop can handle 80ohm with no amp device...
if you have any advice it would be much appreciated.
thanks for your time.
Hey Danny! From my experience, most gaming laptops today are powerful enough to drive 250 ohm headphones. I never tried your MSI, but I tried some other Omen by HP laptops, some random PC's and they all did surprisingly well. Unless you demand the absolute best quality (the lowest noise floor, lowest THD, best channel separation), I can see you being happy using the DT770 250 or 80 ohms with just your laptop for your purposes. You shouldn't have major issues, even with your stock headphone out. The upgrade (better dedicated DAC + amp combo) can come later when the budget allows it, if needed. Hope this helps!
@@odysseyofcuriosity thanks a lot, respect for replying to all comments!
Thanks
do you think this would work good for the Dt 990?
Absolutely! I could have put "for 250 ohm Beyerdynamic headphones" in the title, but I didn't want people to think it won't work with other brands. It works ok with any headphones that are
Yes it does thank you @@odysseyofcuriosity
Such a confusing subject. I just bought DT990 Pros for music production on laptop as they were on sale, and now I'm not even sure if I need an amp or not. Still waiting on them to arrive but will need interesting to see what volume I get from the standard soundcard, but it's good to have this to fall back on
you got an update?
Damn man extremely good content for the amount of subscribers you have
Thank you!
Great video men!!!
Great timing andrew. Just bought my new pair of DT 990s 250Ohms and was thinking on getting a expensive Amp
Glad this came at the right time, Genji! Did you end up getting a Play! 3 for your DT990?
@@odysseyofcuriosity Yes, I did!
@@FrancisJMotionDesigner hey man i have the same headphones and am currently thinking of getting a dac amp or get this usb amp, what are your thoughts on the amp?
@@Αβζ-υ7χ I use focusrite solo. Its working pretty well for me actually. I also have this Play! 3 . Both gets the job done! but leaning more towards focusrite. Prolly because I use that when I'm home and use the Play!3 when travelling with my laptop.
@@FrancisJMotionDesignerwitch gen of Focusrite ?
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Can they be used for mixing and mastering with dt770 250ohm ?
Yes...it could be used. It's not the best thing in the world for this (as you would imagine for the price), but it does have enough power to let you work even with low level signals (as you do while mixing).
i'm trying to get into music production and one of my needs is mixing and mastering, does anyone know if this dac/amp dongle will work for mixing and mastering, or do i really need to get a better amp to get the full juice of my dt 990 pro
The books will tell you to get a studio class audio interface with a proper headphone out and some high quality converters for this. This DAC is not a proper studio piece of gear. But hear me out. The books will also tell you to mix and master on reference grade monitors (not headphones) in a properly treated acoustic space using years of hands on experience and a proper ear. My point is that if you're just starting out, this doesn't really matter at all for you. Even if you'd have the perfect gear/studio, you'd be lacking other things which are arguably much more important. At this point, you just need to get your hands dirty producing some tracks, learning the fundamentals and gaining the skills which will allow you to really feel limited by this cheap DAC when paired with the DT990 Pro. Which means this $25 DAC can serve you well for now. Of course, if your budget is much larger and allows it, you can look towards something more suitable for your purposes to avoid the need for an upgrade later down the line. Hope this helps!
@@odysseyofcuriosity thank you, i didn't though you will reply to my comment this fast after 1 year of uploading this video, i will go for this then as a starting point
Good vid