Stihl, Husqvarna, or NEO-TEC Chainsaw Best For??? | NEO-TEC NS892 92CC

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @Bodhranarama
    @Bodhranarama 2 года назад +27

    The correct number of chainsaws to own is defined by the equation n+1 where n=the number of chainsaws currently owned! It works with guitars too!!

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +2

      I love it. There are so many items like this in my life.

    • @djbradles
      @djbradles Год назад +1

      😂 right on

    • @SuperBigPetey
      @SuperBigPetey Год назад +4

      Works for guns too. Over 20 guitars and still counting. Doing research for my next chainsaw. Need me a biggun this time.

  • @davida.p.9911
    @davida.p.9911 2 года назад +7

    There's just something about that sound.....I can't describe it. I grew up around chain saws and log cutting and always love the sound of a chain saw in action. Great work Tony! Nice saw! 👍👍😎

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +2

      I am going to fine-tune the saw. I love the sound also.

    • @BrentT1964
      @BrentT1964 Год назад +2

      I just bought mine It’s on my kitchen floor 😂. Gonna get er going soon 👍👍✌️

  • @bradleywise835
    @bradleywise835 7 месяцев назад +3

    I think it needs a little bit more lean on the top end adjustment,should rev a bit higher

  • @billweaver3114
    @billweaver3114 2 года назад +3

    Oh yeah love the sound of that saw reminds me of a saw my grandparents bought for the family to use it was a still saw can't remember the size but that saw was a beast I always loved running it as always enjoy your videos stay safe God bless and will keep you in my prayers

  • @ronalves9118
    @ronalves9118 2 года назад +4

    Looks great Tony, I just got my new Husky 395XP and today I will use it on some large logs averaging 42". The big maple log is 54" at the butt and 46" at the small end. For that I will mill it with my 64" bar on an Granberg Alaskan chain saw mill. Ron

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад

      I think I may get an Alaskan Chainsaw mill. It would be neat to cut these big logs myself.

  • @donwilliams169
    @donwilliams169 2 года назад +4

    After seeing what that saw could do I thought I would probably not want to handle rounds from it.wow is all I can say again thank you for the video and your work enjoyed the time well spent.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +2

      I cut down a nice size White Oak today. The new saw ripped through it! It is still a chunk to walk back in the woods with!

  • @HometownAcres
    @HometownAcres Год назад +1

    Man that is a beautiful log. I’m jealous. I’d like to put this on my sawmill

  • @michaelpayne21
    @michaelpayne21 2 года назад +3

    I have one myself. Awesome saw. I’d throw some loctite on your recoil pivot bolt. Mine came loose and ruined recoil. After helicoil and new drum all fixed now. Your low end you set perfect. Your hi was a little rich. 1/8-1/4 turn in you’d be perfect. Nice video 👍

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +1

      I love this saw. We are going to cut some big slabs with it soon.

    • @Joe2328
      @Joe2328 Год назад

      well said 1/4 turn for sure

  • @hillbilly4christ638
    @hillbilly4christ638 2 года назад +1

    Tony, I have a tractor similar in size to yours. I find that using a bucket tilted forward and held close to the ground will eliminate the offending forage around your project. I use this technique to clean up after felling and prior to a burn.

  • @preston8859
    @preston8859 3 месяца назад +1

    I have the little top handle neotec and it’s a pretty solid little saw. For the saw and extended 3 year warranty it was like $150. So if it breaks down within 4 years they’ll end me a new one. Cant really beat that for the price.

  • @robertkeefer2128
    @robertkeefer2128 Год назад +2

    Very nice I got one in my Amazon cart just waiting to pull the trigger!

  • @terrymangum7635
    @terrymangum7635 2 года назад +2

    That is one huge tree. Looks like your new saw handled cutting the logs very well. Enjoyed.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +1

      That was this biggest tree I have ever cut. The saw made it easy! Tony

  • @sirgangar
    @sirgangar 9 месяцев назад

    I've got this saw with a different bar just got a new chain and I am having trouble staring the saw. The choak option doesn't go all the way to the open choak position. The arborist who gave it to me was able to start it right up. Not sure what I may be doing wrong I've got 4 more chain saws I use on a regular basis. Thanks.

  • @budlite8207
    @budlite8207 2 года назад +2

    Looks like a good runner. The most I've used, or needed, was a Stihl 026 with a 20" bar. Good review, Thank you.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +1

      I could get by with my Echo Timber Wolf, but I may try an Alaskan Sawmill.

  • @kevinbuie4081
    @kevinbuie4081 2 года назад +2

    Great video. Loved that camera work. She’s gonna have to give me lessons!!!!!!!

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +1

      It is all me buddy!🤪🤪🤪🤪

    • @kevinbuie4081
      @kevinbuie4081 2 года назад +2

      You remember saying that lightning struck that tree???? Keep talking like that and that tree won’t be the only thing it’ll strike!!!

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +2

      You know that's right! Tanja will square me away.

  • @johnjriggsarchery2457
    @johnjriggsarchery2457 Год назад

    I have a Husky 288 I bought somewhere around 20 years ago, it has literally thousands of hours on it and it's just now getting broken in. Back then though it only cost about $800

  • @texascottonfarmer
    @texascottonfarmer 2 года назад +2

    👍👍👌👌 That's the kind of video I like to watch! That saw is a hoss!

  • @JPDBagum
    @JPDBagum Год назад +1

    Hey I just got the NS8105 for Christmas and am new to chainsaws. The manual calls for leaded fuel which I didn't think we can get in the States? It also seems to call for 25:1 fuel mix, which seems really potent beyond the break-in period.
    What fuel type and mix ratio would you recommend?

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  Год назад

      I use VP 50:1 premixed fuel. I have never had a problem with any of my chainsaws.

  • @kdegraa
    @kdegraa 2 года назад +1

    Hi Tony. That’s a big tree. Good luck with this chainsaw. The bar is huge!

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад

      We have several big projects on the calendar. Thank you for watching.

  • @robertzalaker4775
    @robertzalaker4775 2 года назад +1

    nice video.i just ordered the same saw. i have a bunch of 63 inch diameter ash logs so i thought i would take a chance on the neotek.after i cut the big stuff i will put a 24 or 28 inch on it

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад

      I ordered a smaller 72cc Neotec with a 20" bar. I am trying it out today.

  • @antoniomontana9430
    @antoniomontana9430 2 года назад +1

    I just bought the Neotec NH 865 saw (Husqvarna Clone) on Amazon and have yet to break it in. Will be waiting for better weather this week in Central Florida, as it's been raining on and off delaying my ability to use the saw to cut up some firewood from felled trees in my yard.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +1

      I may get that saw in the future. It fits that sweet spot.

    • @antoniomontana9430
      @antoniomontana9430 2 года назад

      @@TonysTractorAdventure It's really well put together and fits my Husqvarna 20" Rancher bar and chain well. I had to step drill out the hole to be a bit bigger in the bar for the chain tensioner peg to fit through in the clutch cover, but other than that there was nothing wrong with how the parts fit together. I just ordered a large tree felling bar spike kit for the saw so that I can have spikes on both side of the bar to make it easier to rock the saw while cutting through thick pieces of logs.

    • @robertzalaker4775
      @robertzalaker4775 2 года назад

      i bet your using it now! hope you made it through the storm ok.

  • @0770dc
    @0770dc Год назад +1

    Informative video buddy. How is the saw holding up?

  • @Adam-uk8pw
    @Adam-uk8pw 2 года назад +2

    Tony, stick with skip tooth chains on long bars. Helps with chip clearance.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +1

      I already bought a full chisel chain. I will try them both and go from there.

  • @allthingsmowing
    @allthingsmowing Месяц назад

    Needs a little better tuning on the car if you can hear it sputtering. It's not supposed to be doing that under power especially bogging down that much. I don't know if this thing could handle it or not but a good porting and jetting would probably make it run about right, or like a saw should anyways. That thing is bogging bad and the chain speed is severely low

  • @mick5740
    @mick5740 Год назад

    Big thumbs up. I just today got my Mac 10-10 tuned up with new 24 for nch bar and chain for a big log and boy now I know what it’s like to have a big enough bar and chain to do the job. Thinking on getting a new neotec A lot of work this summer with big logs And I’m NOT buying a brand name ripoff. I bought a COOCHEER brush cutter few years back and that puppy has RUN and worked great with no maintenance! Coocheer chainsaws have bad reviews on Amazon and seem only come with a 20 inch bar I want a 24 inch minimum

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  Год назад

      I have two NEO-TEC chainsaws. I have this big one, but I also have the 72cc. It is a beast and will pull a 24" bar easy. It has been my go to saw for the last year. neotecworld.com/products/neo-tec-chainsaw-nh872-71-70cc-24in-24-22-20-inch-farmtech-gas-chainsaw?sca_ref=2844330.tt3Q7JOh9f

  • @dstafford2200
    @dstafford2200 2 года назад +2

    Lookin good Tony that saws a beast for the use id need it for. Now the fun part working up the logs and moving them. Tym to the rescue. Keepnupnyhe great work.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +2

      The one big log is sitting in the same place. The other logs are back by the sawmill. They are monster logs.

  • @BilalUzan-k3d
    @BilalUzan-k3d 8 месяцев назад

    Hey Tony,
    Nice video that was one big tree!
    I was wondering if i could use this chainsaw as a trencher? I need something to help me dig in to the ground

  • @anthonyfichera1851
    @anthonyfichera1851 2 года назад +1

    Hi, Great video. How heavy are these saws? Thanks

  • @careyholden9768
    @careyholden9768 4 месяца назад

    Where do you get chains for these saw I been looking for a 42in but I can’t find it

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  4 месяца назад

      For specialty chains like a 42", I would have it made up at a local chainsaw shop.

  • @richardloucks2936
    @richardloucks2936 2 года назад +1

    I love my neotec(s). I put straight shot mufflers one mine and they rip! That saw needs just a little more tuning.
    Btw, for nor being professionals you have alot of nice equipment!

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +5

      At some point I will tune the Neo Tec. Don't save money but buy equipment, tools, food and land. Then you will be monetarily wealthy. True wealth can only be found in the heart.

  • @shyancole2490
    @shyancole2490 8 месяцев назад

    I'm pretty sure when you're talking about nanotech saws the NH models are Husqvarna clones in the NS models are steel clones

  • @frankjgornickjr3676
    @frankjgornickjr3676 6 месяцев назад

    Hey bud one thing don't use that pre-made mixed gas you're better off buying fresh higher octane gas from the gas station. And mix it with some good mix synthetic blend.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  6 месяцев назад

      I appreciate your opinion on this but totally disagree. I leave my chainsaw sitting for months at a time. I have never had one gum up using the premix. This exact saw set for over 6 months. It cranked on the third pole. I did tune it, in a later video. It is an absolute beast now. It's actually scary how powerful it is.

    • @haroldjones12
      @haroldjones12 5 месяцев назад

      one thing high end chainsaw manufacturers list is to not use higher octane lol

  • @southofheaven-gardening
    @southofheaven-gardening Год назад +2

    The spare parts of ms660 fits in this chainsaw ?

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  Год назад

      I don't know know. It has never broken.

    • @cynthiahoekstra7212
      @cynthiahoekstra7212 5 месяцев назад

      Yes they do. Have 4of these clones, 2 FT and 2NT. All run well only parts I have changed are the chain tensioners and clutch springs on one. The multi function switches on FT clones don’t give a high idle so they have been changed out with OEM. Great saws

  • @kevin_raney
    @kevin_raney 2 года назад +1

    Farmertec make Stihl/Husq knockoffs that are similar to this one. I've looked at buying the real deal, but I haven't been able to justify the name brand price either. Looks like it was able to make wood glitter. Will be curious to see how long it lasts. I'll probably end up with a clone as well.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад

      It looks as it will hold up, but time will tell. If it does, it is a good value. I was super happy with the woodchip glitter. I just got a 30 degree full chisel chain. It is not a skip tooth. I am excited to see what it will do on the big saw.

  • @joelmason6818
    @joelmason6818 2 года назад +2

    I literally bought the "Farmertec 92cc Holzfforma Blue Thunder G660" which is basically the same as that one for the same exact reason. :)

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад

      How is it holding up

    • @joelmason6818
      @joelmason6818 2 года назад

      Haven't used it yet. Had a fuel mix snafu amd had a hard time getting it to run. Once I figured that out, I let it burn a tank and a half to break it in. I've got about 15 feet of 40" oak and 30 of 30" oak to cut up. Hoping to get a bunch of live edge tables and stools out of them. Trees been sitting there for two years. Finally able to cut them up! 😀

    • @waynejanzen9346
      @waynejanzen9346 2 года назад +1

      I've put together about a dozen of the farmertec ms660 clones. They're a pretty decent saw. I replaced the decompression buttons with a real Stihl part, because the farmertec button was garbage, but the rest of the parts were decent. I never had any complaints from the people I sold them to. The one I kept has lots of hours on an Alaskan mill and still works good.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад

      This one comes mostly assembled as much as any out of the box chainsaw. The decompression button seems to be good quality, but time will tell.

    • @waynejanzen9346
      @waynejanzen9346 2 года назад +2

      @@TonysTractorAdventure I built the saws over a couple of years. Some of the first ones I built had bad cylinder castings, which farmertec replaced, and poorer quality plastic parts. The quality on each new batch of saws I ordered got better and better, to the point where the decompression button was the only issue. I stopped building them a couple of years ago. It wouldn't surprise me if the quality has improved even more since then and the problem with the decompression button has been fixed.

  • @OGAOutdoors
    @OGAOutdoors 2 года назад +1

    Tony saw looks nice I may have to head over and check them out. Thanks for all the info, take care Ben.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +1

      I have used the saw a lot over the last week. It has only got better.

    • @OGAOutdoors
      @OGAOutdoors 2 года назад +1

      @@TonysTractorAdventure Seems like a lot of people like the saw. The site said that one was not available lol.

  • @ΚΩΣΤΑΣΠΑΠΑΤΡΕΧΑΣ
    @ΚΩΣΤΑΣΠΑΠΑΤΡΕΧΑΣ Год назад +1

    Very nice video 👍 you thinking clever and to the point ☝️.

  • @IndianaDoug
    @IndianaDoug 2 года назад +1

    Great review 👍🏻

  • @epelinaerecoko9992
    @epelinaerecoko9992 2 года назад +3

    Looks like a good chainsaw

  • @marcushaynes843
    @marcushaynes843 Год назад +1

    Is that saw a Stihl MS660 clone? It's a beast cutting through that big log.

  • @RealInventions1
    @RealInventions1 Год назад +1

    my neo had a bar oil issue my mechanic friend fixed it for me

  • @Wheelloader__
    @Wheelloader__ 2 года назад +2

    Nice video Tony. Looks like a husky

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +1

      I have already used it a few hours. It does a great job.

    • @mlyniecm
      @mlyniecm 8 месяцев назад

      Weird cause it’s a stihl clone lol

  • @frankjgornickjr3676
    @frankjgornickjr3676 6 месяцев назад

    And I think you need to turn the high idle up a little bit a little bit too low.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  6 месяцев назад

      I tuned the saw after it was broken in, Wow! The saw is a beast now. It has held up well and is a good starter.

  • @officialhipa5103
    @officialhipa5103 2 года назад +1

    powerful chain saw

  • @mustafacntrz
    @mustafacntrz Год назад

    It looks very high quality

  • @garengtutorial8923
    @garengtutorial8923 9 месяцев назад

    Mesin yang bagus boss

  • @vart7767
    @vart7767 Год назад

    IMPRESSIVE CUT! NO BOG

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  Год назад

      We have had the saw for 8 months. It is not used as often as it could be, but I started it yesterday to cut a big stump down.

  • @RICHIE_RICH89
    @RICHIE_RICH89 Год назад

    Lean her out a bit to rich its breaking up bad.not bad to.break it in btu turn the high screw in slowly a 1/8 turn until it revs higher theres room for improvment just tweaking the carb.

  • @deerrudy
    @deerrudy 2 года назад +4

    Thanks Tony good video. Looks like a well-built saw. Curious to see the availability of parts for this brand. I may look into this brand a little further. Thanks for the videos I enjoy watching it's a good distraction from everything else I have been watching lately which is the market is crashing ,inflation will gey worse, and this Administration running this country into the ground is about all I can take. So your videos are a great distraction from all that keep it bud!

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +1

      The parts are readily available. It looks to be an updated Stihl saw. The country is in a tough place.

    • @deerrudy
      @deerrudy 2 года назад

      @@TonysTractorAdventure that's good to know that farts are available. I had been looking at a couple Stihl clone saws but when you have your hands on it like you it makes a difference. And yes we are in a tough place hopefully this country wakes up

    • @gprich82
      @gprich82 Год назад

      It's and Stihl MS660/661 clone and parts should be interchangeable,but neotec sells parts too I believe.

  • @deanbarr5740
    @deanbarr5740 2 года назад +4

    Tony, checkout Cornucopia Farmstead. The very first time I ever seen one of these brands was on his channel a few years back. Ric, is a true timberman with good hardwork ethics and an abundance of knowledge. His channel is a lot like yours. Check his channel out.

    • @CornucopiaFarmstead
      @CornucopiaFarmstead 2 года назад +2

      Great video Tony! Melissa and I are happy to see you and Tonya are back at it and feeling better. Thank you Dean as well! Neotec has great price point saws and they suit the needs of our small farm perfectly.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +2

      I watched your video about the saw. Good job.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +2

      @Dean Barr, I watched their video before we got ours. 😉👍

  • @susancurrie8552
    @susancurrie8552 2 года назад +2

    Wow!

  • @james-im1sj
    @james-im1sj Год назад +1

    You don't need to spend the big money for new saws I have 2 big timber saws the real deals ..older ones

  • @jaimelago8941
    @jaimelago8941 2 года назад +2

    Hy Tony and Tanya

  • @georgedavall9449
    @georgedavall9449 2 года назад +1

    Wow

  • @falgianibrandon
    @falgianibrandon Год назад

    This is a paid promotion video. What’s your honest opinion on this saw

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  Год назад

      I think you may be using your integrity as the base line. My integrity is not for sale. Every sponsor on my channel agrees I can say what ever I want. If they don't, then I will not show their product. I have had this chainsaw for a year now, and it has performed flawlessly. I did tune it after break in.

  • @wendellbrown2215
    @wendellbrown2215 2 года назад +1

    Don’t you need to grease the nosecone

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад

      I greased everything, but I can't put everything in the a video. It would make the video to long. I even pulled the clutch and greased the clutch bearings. I had lube from the factory.

    • @cd1168
      @cd1168 2 года назад

      Would you make a video of you doing maintenance on it ? I’m wanting to see how you like how the parts look to you after broke in. Plus the different things you do. Grease and stuff. I’ve had trouble maintaining my stihl and makita ea6100

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад

      The saw is doing great. I don't do very many dedicated chainsaw videos.

  • @Buddha-of8fk
    @Buddha-of8fk 4 месяца назад

    Husqvarna!

  • @dagtiagtiag8041
    @dagtiagtiag8041 3 месяца назад

    👍🏻

  • @jackfrosty79ify
    @jackfrosty79ify 2 года назад +1

    My mac 10 10 is loud lol

  • @valeriodesantis9881
    @valeriodesantis9881 20 дней назад

    taglia , ma la barra di 90 cm non la tira

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  18 дней назад

      After it's broken in it does a great job. The Saw has never failed.

  • @jonathanlewismarsh3105
    @jonathanlewismarsh3105 2 года назад +1

    Stihl copy 066, looks like the old 066 magnum

  • @julianlaustsen1991
    @julianlaustsen1991 11 месяцев назад

    needs a carb tune, it\s running like crap...

  • @kevindanelke7483
    @kevindanelke7483 Год назад

    Cut an oak log that size

  • @seanwagner9680
    @seanwagner9680 Год назад +1

    Thing is too rich

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  Год назад

      Good be. It was the first day

    • @AverageHouseHusband
      @AverageHouseHusband 10 месяцев назад +1

      Rich is good for breaking in a chainsaw. Heck when milling I run them rich indefinitely, lower rpm cooler temps. Running a saw hot out of the gate or when milling really shortens the life of a saw. Rich is safe, lean can destroy a saw on a single tree.

  • @damnu8089
    @damnu8089 9 месяцев назад

    lol can gas , no tips from you

  • @zachgordon9531
    @zachgordon9531 2 года назад +1

    Sounds like it's running rich, they are old technology. Still very much against these saws.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад

      Why are you against these saws? It runs great and cuts great.

    • @zachgordon9531
      @zachgordon9531 2 года назад

      @@TonysTractorAdventure I would put my 394 up against it any day.
      Clone of the original, from what I have seen with the clone saws longevity isn't there.
      Not a big fan of importing from China either.

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  2 года назад +2

      I bet you are a bigger fan of import than you think. Look at your phone, coffee maker, battery powered tools, TV, computer, microwave, toaster, etc. As for longevity, time will tell. We are not doing this every day. I live in the world which is.

    • @zachgordon9531
      @zachgordon9531 2 года назад +1

      @@TonysTractorAdventure you're absolutely correct everything's made over there and I wish it wasn't. So if there's one thing I can buy that's not Chinese I'm going to buy it so I don't have to throw it away in 3 weeks

    • @zachgordon9531
      @zachgordon9531 2 года назад

      Also I didn't say I wasn't a fan of imports, I said I'm not a fan of importing from China. I see we're not going to agree on this which is okay. Have a wonderful day keep on your Chinese garbage

  • @Rip66230
    @Rip66230 Год назад

    For a 90 something cc it doesn’t seem to be that stout of a saw , maybe it is but seems to be laggin in the power ratio for what it is , I’ve ran 90 cc saws and they were WAY more powerful sounding but like I said I’d have to run it I reckon

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  Год назад

      I explained it was out of the box. I have had it over a year now. After I broke it in, it is a mean mammer jammer. Check it out in this video. ruclips.net/video/lH1bxyFmdr0/видео.html

  • @marcellledbetter3802
    @marcellledbetter3802 9 месяцев назад

    I wonder how long those Chinese saws will last? Probably not long!!!

    • @TonysTractorAdventure
      @TonysTractorAdventure  9 месяцев назад

      Mine have been going for two years without fail. Solid saws for homesteads