As a modder myself, I thank you for making this video. It sheds light on how ignorant these people behind the websites really are to the feelings of the original creators.
@@William0271 you do realize that what they are doing is stealing money off of what people could be making. the reposting websites do not give profits back to the developers
@@sierraa72 That has nothing to do with being ignorant though. Do you know what "ignorant" even means? Not trying to be rude, I'm just pretty sure you don't know the meaning of the word (I guess you could say that you're ignorant to it lol)
As a mod developer I can understand how painful it can be if your mod is reposted, it takes a really long time to make mods and to have someone steal credit or associate you with a virus hurts
@@raghav1026 And the mod dev is making money off the original game's creator. pretty scummy thing to do? Which is why some game devs wanted mods to be banned in the past. Here's a little secret: Publicity = good. If you get your mod posted everywhere you will end up with more downloads, if you curtail it people will make their own better mod with time out of sheer annoyance. the devs are just greedy and frankly mostly just are control freaks that don't understand that users ALLWAYS prioritise their own comfort. Little test: which games do you think do better over time? Those with mod support or those without? Easy answer as all the games with the best support still have huge audiances today, whereas the other just...went away. similarly those mod devs that tried to control everything and get paid for their shit mostly just go away, where the others stay and prosper. Minecraft is far from the first game where this has come up.
@@nonyabisness6306 that is an absolutely brain dead take on this problem. mod developers make money off of something THEY make for the game. the mod dev made the mod. now on the other hand these random websites are making money off of something they had no involvement in... if you cant see the issue here then you are a little special to say the least
@@nonyabisness6306 Did you even watch the video. Also mod makers don’t make money off of the game. They don’t demand you pay to use their mods. Most have patreon supporters that willingly support them because of the great work they do. That’s not making money off of the game. Also publicity = good, but malware = bad. Imagine being a mod dev and getting angry comments from people who downloaded off of these sites because they didn’t know any better and got malware on their PC, that gives the mod devs a bad name. What these sites are doing is literally illegal.
Just want to add a tad bit of clarification with the Iris/Sodium fiasco. They didn't decide to leave Curseforge due to the reuploads, but because of a bunch of technical issues with the new website, which was the last straw for the full move to Modrinth. Only after they archived Iris and Sodium (which they did to make sure old modpacks still work), Curseforge fully deleted them and allowed anyone to reupload the mods. So Curseforge basically did this to keep Iris and Sodium on their platform, and/or to bully them into staying on Curseforge.
For Minecraft I only use CurseForge, Modrinth and Planet Minecraft, but it is good to know about the extension. I hope they decide to go back and maintain it again, 'cause it's crucial for anyone who enjoys modding and actively do it for lots of games.
The only past instance I can think of is years ago when someone managed to sneak some malicious code into a build of Tinker's Construct without the main dev realizing. Curse does have a verification system for all uploads, but that one likely passed by, due to it being from an extremely well known modder who has done nothing wrong in the past. Luckily this was discovered very quickly.
I'm glad Modrinth is becoming more popular now, it's such a nice fluid site that I've never had a single issue with, never had to watch a single ad or had any real concerns.
@@deltainfinium869 uhm, modrinth is working on their own launcher, but atm prism is the best option as you can update singular mods in the launcher itself, besides changing modpack versions of packs from various sources
Thank you for making this video! It's an important issue that has plagued the comunnity for many, many years, yet unfortunately has not shown many signs of slowing down. Hopefully sharing this message will help.
Modder here, thank you so much for shedding light on this issue. My team and I are tired of having our months of labor stolen to make more money than all of us combined. Helping educate others that this is happening, it's highly illegal, and highly dangerous is the first step to hopefully cull a good portion of these problematic sites. Keep up the fantastic work, love your videos!
@@phsiebler We have the mod on CurseForge and Modrinth. We make very little revenue, just the CF points and the little Modrinth pays. That's why it stings all the more when our work gets stolen.
@@nitro_dynamite18 understandable why you are frustrated I always assumed mod developers don't really earn money expect through donations. I hope this video will notify more people about the issue
@@starrymohannad eh, spyware might be a little bit strongly worded, but it definitely runs when you don't want it to and has access to files that I don't need a Minecraft mod manager to have access to. Honestly I would be fine using curseforge as designed if I didn't have to deal with that launcher. As it is I go through the hoops to use gdlauncher instead. Amazon saw that they had controll of Minecraft mods and got greedy.
Glad you mentioned modrinth. I've been using the site for mods and other stuff for a while now and its honestly one of the cleanest and smoothest running websites I've ever used for MC related stuff.
Really? I've found it to be janky, inconsistently performing, and lacking in absolutely basic features like tracking dependents to find addons. Their UI is also extremely user hostile with many redundant clicks and lack of clarity about downloads.
I remember once I downloaded mods from this specific minecraft site where *All Mod Downloads were .exe files* which is the biggest red flag ever, my toddler brain back then didn't even give that a thought so that was the main way I installed mods for a while, to this day I'm still surprised that website didn't give me a virus.
@@squabbledOwO I'm pretty sure it didn't since I never had performance problems on that PC, plus this was back in 2010 - 2014, so crypto mining viruses weren't as widespread as they are today
@@squabbledOwO You would know if it was a cryptominer. Yes cryptominers work in the background, but they use absurd amounts of power causing noticeable lag and other issues that would quickly be noticed.
Literally just happened to me, glad you're bringing attention to this because I remember when I was a kid and I'd get a hell of a lot of malware on my computer from using sites like this.
Thank you! As a mod dev, I hate my mod files being re-uploaded, mainly because they are often outdated. I should add that the re-upload site's moderators frequently check for new mods. Usually, when uploading a brand-new mod to CurseForge, it appears in the Google search results re-uploaded on 1-2 sites by the NEXT MORNING. Some sites even use bots for it, which you can tell because of timestamps, and the article is a full copypasta of the mod description page.
Back in the days of 1.8, 9minecraft was my go to mod site and i only recently learned the truth. Thankfully i switched to curseforge over 6 years ago but it’s scary how many of these sites are out there.
I'm honestly just relieved I had my dad who was already in the modding community. He told me and my sister where to go and we've been following him. He just kinda guides us through everything when it comes to modding things.
Dang, now I feel really bad for downloading mods from sites like these. I had no idea those types of websites were malicious. Thanks for shedding light on this, I'll definitely be more careful and mindful from now on. Now that I think about it, so many mods I've tried to download previously would always crash my game. I always thought it was because of my computer, as it's just a regular Mac and not a gaming computer, but now I'm wondering if this is a reason why it happened
It happened to me, but I always solved it because most of the time 9minecraft doesn't update the mods, so I always ended up finding the mod on curseforge and downloading the latest version and the game stopped crashing
As a minecraft veteran of 11 years, this is shocking to me since I havent used many mods in recent years, but back in my early days, 9Minecraft and many of these sites were almost my go to. I hope this video is seen by someone similar to me in my early beginnings so they dont make the mistakes I did back then.
@@BagOfButtons very true, however I'm good with vanilla MC. Always coming out with new stuff. Now Fallout and Elder Scrolls. Those games I mod the crap out of, after playing first through vanilla. Also, the Nexus is really good. Never got any maleware, but I also go through all the reviews before downloading a mod.
As someone who has been installing mods since beta and remember the times before Forge was a thing but haven't paid a lot of attention to the scene for the past few years I'm honestly surprised that some of these shifty sites are still around, over a decade later.
Thank you, my man. I last used 9minecraft 6 months ago for maps, but when I found the stop mod reposting extension I will never download something form these sites. Again thank you for spreading the word!
The problem with saying "don't download from those sites" is that a lot of the time, they're the only source for mod/texture pack you're trying to find, especially if it's for older versions. If every mod/texture pack maker actually kept an archive of the things they made, people (like me) wouldn't have to resort to downloading from sketchy websites.
@@Elian504 ehh, not always true. sometimes a dev makes a port (or in most cases just a mod) and then deletes it, thus making the sketchy site the ONLY way to get it(unless you somehow find someone with the original file...and even then good luck. er, both on finding them and it not being malware.
@@Elian504 Definitely not true. Older versions of mods (namely beta 1.7.3 mods/TP) are almost always either lost to time, stuck on an HDD in a landfill, or on said sketchy sites. It's very hard to find very old versions of LB Photo Realism, KDS Photo Realism, etc. without the use of potentially malicious sites.
@@nasrinatiyeh how do you say not true when you mentioned the same sketch sites? sometimes there is just no other source for the old mods we used to have once before, if getting from any of them 9minecraft is best chances vs dead official source
The only reason to use these kinds of sketchy websites is if you're searching for a dead mod that only they have. I think I've gotten a few of such pieces of the past from them. As for good mod sources, Modrinth has been my go-to for quite some time now.
It's like going to a landfill to try and salvage small pieces of electronics that are no longer in production. Only do it if you know what you're doing, and only if you have sufficient security in a worse case scenario.
I'm part of the Splatoon modding community and know how heartbreaking it is to have your content stolen. There was a huge modpack I worked on for months and some useless idiots reuploaded it as their own work shortly after the original release. It took me two years to build up enough confidence to relist the mod and post new stuff again, and I still haven't completely healed from it. Can't imagine what it's like to have it happening on this level, especially when money is involved 😟
@@gotgunpowder If one simple internet comment unrelated to you from TEN MONTHS AGO triggers you this much for no valid reason, then just get off the computer and go do something actually useful with your life lmao. Maximally inflated ego people with a skill issue, smh. Thanks for giving me a good laugh tho this is hilarious
I HIGHLY suggest, no matter where you get a file, at the very least scan it with virus total. And make sure you have a good antivirus. No one is immune to viruses.
This is a really good reminder that these people who make mods for Minecraft have lives. You may not think that there work being stolen matters since it’s just a Minecraft mod, but we don’t know the authors position. This could be there final resort to make some money.
I'm glad this most likely won't happen to modded Terraria due to it having it's own official launcher. Mods that want to be on there have to be reviewed by the Tmodloader team first. It also makes it easier to find mods since they're all in one place. The same being the case for Minecraft would be awesome
Crime groups and lone criminals in general are like mushrooms. Even if you catch them it wont matter as they’ll either spring up again elsewhere or some other group will take there place. It really is disgraceful how so many people are ok with doing this regardless of reasons.
Great video, Thank you for making people aware of this, I speak alot with mod creators and getting their mods/assets stolen is one of the worst feeling
I've been developing smaller mods for awhile now and this issue is far more rampant than most would think. Even when my mods having first started with only 2 or 3 thousand downloads to their name, they were still stolen and spread across these websites. What's even worse is when youtubers or individuals making content with your mods then link back to these pages insinuating that its the original download point. When your a small author there's nothing to really do as your word goes nowhere in the large scheme of things. I'm glad more people are speaking out about this now.
As a Russian, there are plenty of such reuploading sites here, that reupload optifine, mods, texture/resource packs even, anything you can imagine. Copyright laws are not well implemented in Russia at all, at least regarding pirating sites, mod reposting sites, etc. Therefore it's quite impossible to take down such sites (that were hosted in Russia). It's a big shame, considering how much malware these sites have, and how many people fell for it. I myself fell for those kind of sites when I was younger, despite Google constantly warning me about the potential risk behind those files, thinking "Oh, it's completely normal, it's meant to happen, right?" No, it would not have such a warning if those files were indeed safe and uploaded by the original creators (like OptiFine, for example) All of this to say, this is the reason why many of such sites are hosted in Russia and made by Russians, because they would suffer little to no consequences. I gotta hate how people have no shame or remorse for making and spreading malware, especially through someone else's work
in theory, the only protection for open source mods to prevent reuploads like this is filing the name as a trademark. but that costs money which modders usually don't have to throw around. and if it is some page like 9minecraft, an international trademark suit will be expensive.
I can guarantee you you won't be able to file a trademark for a mod without the owner of the game you're modding sueing you into oblivion, and i don't mean the game.
@@nonyabisness6306 why? of couse you can't trademark the games name. but the mod is its own creation, with copyright and a name, that can be trademarked. of course, that won't stop the shady pages like 9minecraft, but curseforge should respect that. and even for the owner of the game itself are some benefits to this: nobody wants a game where you easily run into the problem of having malware-mods.
As a mod developer myself, I think a problem at least with my mod is, that the license I use (MIT) allows to re-upload and share own versions of the mod. So I can't even do anything against the reuploading until I change the license and I think this is also others problem
@@WGSXFrank Ah. What open-source license do you suggest which allows for unrestricted use in modpacks but forbidds reuploading on sites like 9minecraft?
@@robocraft999 sadly those kind of license does not exist, if you prohibit the users rights to redistribute the software then by definition your software is not open source. however, (this is not legal advice btw) you might able to use some restrictive open source license (cant think any that i use, gpl maybe idk) or a license that require any changes made to the software must be clearly declared to the user (artistic-2.0 sounds like a good license for it however i legit never see it being battle tested on court)
but why? what reason do they have to private the mods on there? people can still download them(or if people already downloaded them, they can still see the mod's name and page) so why remove them?
This Whole situation for the Modders and the Downloaders Mods/Data Stolen really hurts everyone and I feel for everyone that has gotten there PC’s hacked and the Modders work stolen. Thanks for the update video
As a java dev who moderates and makes mods for the community, i sure am sad that curseforge themselves are REFUSING to take down any sort of malicious files.
I literally cannot play vanilla without mods anymore because it gets boring too quickly now; I've played minecraft only with modpacks with around 100+ mods. This is some really useful information
curseforge doubled down because the point of open source licenses like that are that people can take and reupload them wherever, that's the point of choosing the open source licenses they have. That and someone's ability to modify these things however they see fit, and redistribute those modifications even with the original source code. Redistributing with malware is obviously wack, but else i'm not sure why an open source developer would care about reposts. I dont think curseforge is as in the wrong as you protray them, and i think you miss the philosophy of these kinds of open source licenses to begin with. Irus in their tweet said that they were illegally reuploading irus. However, Irus is literally wrong about this, the open source license they selected allows for such a reupload. Curseforge was correct in saying that it's not illegal, and if irus wanted it to be illegal they could've chosen a license that gives them more control over the distribution of their open source code. The power is in their hands. This is really weird fear mongering, and curseforge is fine.
Yep. Also, CF only took down the Iris/Sodom pages because the devs broke ToS by linking to modrinth in the descriptions after archiving their files. Do I personally agree with the rule? No. But it is a rule that enforced on CF.
People need to know about this. CurseForge's actions on their pages, on the re-uploaders are completely fine. Letting those things to happen is their (mod authors) own fault. I'm not even sure they'll make more profit on Modrinth (100% doesn't mean more). Also CurseForge is working hard to improve their website this year, issues like versioning scheme, markdown, ... is going to be fixed. Too bad they have already done reputation damages hence people are moving away.
Back in the days of 1.5 I used to download mods from some russian dude's website, the place itself didn't look shady but the mods there were definitely stolen. They used to distribute the zip files at one point but would slowly get replace these with some weird installer that would try to insert malicious software into the computer I used. Glad to see someone finally call out sites like that one.
As a modder, I personally couldn't recommend Modrinth more, it is relatively new, comes with a super cool UI and supports PrismLauncher (which is by far the best Minecraft Launcher out there imo). And it has basically almost everything that curseforge does.
I always knew 9Minecraft was sketchy but I'm really sad about Curseforge. I've been using it for Minecraft mods for years, and recently for The Sims 4 mods, and it sucks to see the platform fail the very same modders it's supposed to be for. When Curseforge first started supporting Ts4 mods, I was surprised that a lot of modders were actively deciding NOT to use the platform, despite it's benefits. Now I can see why.
Damn, it is actually really disheartening to see the minecraft modding community being plagued by piracy. I sincerely hope that something can be done to prevent this from going on any further
Kinda surreal how things are getting worse and worse in this community. It's almost cartoonish at this point. Makes me wish Minecraft wasn't basically the only game like itself.
Both Iris and Sodium have this in their licences: "You may make, run and propagate covered works that you do not convey, without conditions so long as your license otherwise remains in force." Why are they crying that their work is re-uploaded without permission when they gave out permission to anyone to re-upload the mod?
Important context for the Iris/Sodium situation; the developers decided to exclusively post their mod on modrinth and not curseforge which then lead to them archiving the mod on curseforge. The mod was still fully accessible to but then curseforge went ahead and deleted the entire page, breaking modpacks that use either mod. Then leading to the situation shown in the video. Several other mod creators are also moving over to exclusively post on modrinth. A fully video on curseforge/overwolf involvement with mod/bedrock addon upload sites(mcpedl/curseforge) could be interesting @TheMisterEpic
CF only deleted the page because the devs broke ToS by linking to modrinth in the description. While I personally don't agree with that rule, the spin that CF deleted the pages out of spite is exaggerated at best.
@@WGSXFrank Iris broke the rule of not having public files for download, which to be clear was a rule that did not exist prior to this and was created specifically for this situation. Linking to other sites is not against the rules, and Iris has done it for years with it's own installer link.
Even more important context: The GPL-3 license explicitly allows redistribution and Curseforge only deleted the original pages because Iris devs deliberately violated the curseforge terms of service. This was basically the already famously toxic Iris devs throwing a tantrum, then throwing an even bigger tantrum when there were consequences for violating the ToS of the site, and then throwing an even bigger tantrum than that when someone did something 100% legal according to the license they chose to release under. Iris devs want the benefits of GPL-3 without the obligations
As someone whose entire personality was defined by Minecraft mods at some point, I am ashamed to say that I didn't know that 9minecraft wasn't an official source. I mainly used curseforge myself, but I had heard of 9minecraft. It is heartbreaking to see how people are stealing other's work.
It's sad that one's hard work and passion for making a mod can easily get stolen by someone else for profit though I will say it's funny how one of these sites is so popular that people try to make sites impersonating that one, it's like a double layer scam
The writing has been on the wall for years, and now it's finally built up enough to where it's wreaked havoc on the entire Minecraft modding community. This may very well be the dark ages for us people
Now more than ever, it seems Curseforge needs to work on its PR. Have you considered the possibility for Mojang to host their own official mod platform for Java? It won't be a mod system like reinventing fabric or forge, just an official mod repo.
I used to install Minecraft mods from 9minecraft when I was younger. Even as a kid, I noticed it was very sketchy, but downloaded mods anyway because I wanted to play with mods. I'm pretty sure that's where my computer I had as a kid got the fbi ransomware virus. Edit: As you stated, curseforge wasn't as popular yet, so it (9minecraft) was the main place to get mods.
This is why a lesson in digital literacy is extremely important. Teach people how to search for original authors of media, how to tell what's a copycat, and why it's important to do these very important steps.
A lot of times people are also led to download from these sources as curseforge sometimes simply doesn't host the version of the mod they want, but then again, those versions are probably unavailable for a reason.
It's important to note that most of these websites are mostly visited by people that don't speak English, i speak Spanish and i've only recently discovered about CurseForge after years of downloading mods on repost pages
I'd like more clarification on this. I feel like a lot of this way declaration, save for a couple events here and there from the less reputable sites. Although what curse forge did wasn't fair, and they are absolutely entering/entered a corporate mindset, I need a little bit more information before I can acknowledge them as 'unsafe.'
11:40 just because a mod is open source doesn’t give people the right to commit trademark infringement, break licensing, and spread malware. This is obvious fud from a team that doesn’t understand the legal implications, and is trying to avoid taking action.
Why would a company like Overwolf allow you to advertise a direct competitor on their platform? Honestly, the Modrinth links and images were up way too long for an ad-driven, profit-first company. It's not just ads as well. The mod developers actively crapped on CurseForge, on CurseForge; and acted like Modrinth is a glorious website with no issues and we are the problem for not using that website instead, as if we had a choice on what platforms had what mods, and uses which launcher. I am a mod developer and a modpack creator myself. I am also in contact with a lot of developers. If you overlook the CurseForge hate, Modrinth is not the hero of Minecraft modding. They too have strict, unexpected rules, and weird categorization and search. Yes, the website experience is miles better than CurseForge, but at the end of the day, we come there to mod our games.
If everyone made open source software under something like the GNU General Public License, we wouldn't have this problem. There is no such thing as intellectual property and this a great representation of why the system fails. Also malware isn't NEARLY as much of a problem on GNU/Linux type operating systems. If you are complaining about malware, please first consider the option of switching to a more secure OS and talk to an experienced user.
You can't steal a free mod simply because its author is so complacent that he thinks he can stop someone from using his work. This is the same form of copyright that large corporations use, and you are the conductor of this corporate culture. Attempts to destroy any alternatives to "official" launchers will eventually end up making the creation and distribution of mods generally illegal without the sanction of microsoft, which will only lead to the fact that the simplest things will be sold on their shop for ten bucks. In this way, you yourself will lead people to the pirates and the illegal scene.
I'm so glad modrinth has come up and become popular. It's gonna be much better for the development of the mod community, having a website dedicated to mods that has a UI that isn't trying cram things down your throat.
I absolutely love how much effort you put into your videos to make them so entertaining. I discovered your channel about 10 months ago when I was homeless working a job that only paid me around 250 a week, and had nothing but a backpack with about 5 outfits. Now I can gladly say I am enjoying your content in the comfort of my new girlfriend's girlfriends apartment, and I now have two jobs to help pay rent. If you feel like youve hit Rick bottom or feel hopeless no matter what it is you're going through, just remember that the other side of pain is _beautiful_. Thanks for putting so much effort into your content man.
You have to keep in mind though this is the Iris dev team we're talking about. Their mods are GPL-3 licensed and redistribution is explicitly legal and the entire issue was caused by them deliberately violating the curseforge terms of service. Their behavior here and tweets is clearly as bad faith as their own deliberately deceptive project website. The fact is their own behavior has been as consistently toxic as the community they created, which quickly fractured yet further because of that very drama-ridden toxicity. There's a reason the saying is that forge developers talk about minecraft, and fabric developers talk about how much they hate forge developers and players.
As a mod creator, I appreciate you taking the time to point out how harmful mod reposting sites are to content creators. We work hard to make enjoyable mods and get very little reward as it is. These reposting sites destroy creativity in the long run. Why would I want to put my heart and soul into a project knowing that it'll be stolen without consequence within a few days? Please only download from official hosts and stop rewarding the thieves. Thank you.
I try to only use Modrith, and if it not avaible there I reach out to other places. I have never liked Overwolf and when I heard they were buying CurseForge that is when I stopped using the website all together.
I wasn’t even sure what Overwolf was until I found it on my computer. When I tried to find out what it was, it seemed to be a legitimate web browser, though it’s weird it was even on my computer when I installed CurseForge, as it was there without my knowledge.
I'm all for removing mod reposts that contain viruses or false versions but going "nooo they're making money off my mod delete it!!" is extremely hypocritical and frankly quite funny. Mod creators can be pretty stupid and narcissistic at times so I don't have any sympathy toward them "losing money" at all.
Seeing this happen to curseforge is incredibly worrying- luckily I've started to make my way over to just using Modrinth but.... What about the Curseforge Launcher? I use it for its various separate instances, I get it is probably still safe to use since the main issue is just downloading mods themselves... But it still makes me nervous...
Ive pretty much always used MultiMC and will so forever. Only downside is it doesn't support curseforge modpacks, but ATLauncher does still, and i dont see any glaring issues with it. I found the curseforge launcher very 'sus' due to the aggression of whatever overwolf is and the confusing UI and built in ads. But to answer directly, the curseforge launcher I agree is probably safe, but i wouldnt recommend staying with it.
Modrinth will have its own launcher, but it's still in development. In the meantime, I've used Prism Launcher, but I've heard that ATLauncher is also good.
9:27 1.The website in that image is a Pyramid scheme scam site 2. Those are clearly fake cash (Vietnamese uses VND, not USD) Idk what to say here, just wanted to show some stuff about the image
Additionally, the recent-ish conundrum with Alex Mobs epic fail on the first april joke (mod behaved like a malware, downloading copyrighted video stuff onto the player's pc and upon deletion downloaded it again, and if it did not work it could have caused very erratic griltching screen that was lethal to epyleptics) and the fact that cf did not check that mod at all, sets up a very negative and bad precedent now. Alex broke a serious law and now set-up a precedent for bad actors to make mods into malvare now.
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@@minecraftsurvivals8538 how would you know what he has said when you haven’t watched the video yet? You commented 1 minute after the video came out?
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why dont you provide links to several legit sites?
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As a modder myself, I thank you for making this video. It sheds light on how ignorant these people behind the websites really are to the feelings of the original creators.
How are they ignorant? They are making big money off your labor. You can call it immoral but it's certainly not ignorant.
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@@William0271 you do realize that what they are doing is stealing money off of what people could be making. the reposting websites do not give profits back to the developers
@@sierraa72 That has nothing to do with being ignorant though. Do you know what "ignorant" even means? Not trying to be rude, I'm just pretty sure you don't know the meaning of the word (I guess you could say that you're ignorant to it lol)
@@anonymousalien7417 they’re ignorant of peoples feelings
As a mod developer I can understand how painful it can be if your mod is reposted, it takes a really long time to make mods and to have someone steal credit or associate you with a virus hurts
"steal credit"?
I have never seen any site reposting mods claiming they made them. They usually include links to the creators sites as well.
@@nonyabisness6306 they are still making money off of the creator’s work without permission. Pretty scummy thing to do
@@raghav1026 And the mod dev is making money off the original game's creator. pretty scummy thing to do? Which is why some game devs wanted mods to be banned in the past.
Here's a little secret: Publicity = good. If you get your mod posted everywhere you will end up with more downloads, if you curtail it people will make their own better mod with time out of sheer annoyance.
the devs are just greedy and frankly mostly just are control freaks that don't understand that users ALLWAYS prioritise their own comfort.
Little test: which games do you think do better over time? Those with mod support or those without? Easy answer as all the games with the best support still have huge audiances today, whereas the other just...went away. similarly those mod devs that tried to control everything and get paid for their shit mostly just go away, where the others stay and prosper. Minecraft is far from the first game where this has come up.
@@nonyabisness6306 that is an absolutely brain dead take on this problem. mod developers make money off of something THEY make for the game.
the mod dev made the mod. now on the other hand these random websites are making money off of something they had no involvement in... if you cant see the issue here then you are a little special to say the least
@@nonyabisness6306 Did you even watch the video. Also mod makers don’t make money off of the game. They don’t demand you pay to use their mods. Most have patreon supporters that willingly support them because of the great work they do. That’s not making money off of the game. Also publicity = good, but malware = bad. Imagine being a mod dev and getting angry comments from people who downloaded off of these sites because they didn’t know any better and got malware on their PC, that gives the mod devs a bad name. What these sites are doing is literally illegal.
Just want to add a tad bit of clarification with the Iris/Sodium fiasco. They didn't decide to leave Curseforge due to the reuploads, but because of a bunch of technical issues with the new website, which was the last straw for the full move to Modrinth.
Only after they archived Iris and Sodium (which they did to make sure old modpacks still work), Curseforge fully deleted them and allowed anyone to reupload the mods.
So Curseforge basically did this to keep Iris and Sodium on their platform, and/or to bully them into staying on Curseforge.
that site is getting worse by the week or month with what we've been finding
Wow
CurseForge rules were changed now and both forked mods are taken down.
Oh, that's so much worse
@@MadisOtenurm sad the biggest legit site wants to take down forks of mods
For Minecraft I only use CurseForge, Modrinth and Planet Minecraft, but it is good to know about the extension. I hope they decide to go back and maintain it again, 'cause it's crucial for anyone who enjoys modding and actively do it for lots of games.
How can I install a mod in pocket edition?
@@ru8e42 Mcpedl or Modbay
Same me to curseforge
Ru842 it only for java
Me too. These websites are really trusting and once in a while I usually check if I have viruses.
This aged like fine wine, he knew this is a problem
As someone who relies heavily on Curseforge I am now genuinely scared it'll host malware
It doesn't. The majority of its drama was fear mongering to garner attention to their situation.
The only past instance I can think of is years ago when someone managed to sneak some malicious code into a build of Tinker's Construct without the main dev realizing. Curse does have a verification system for all uploads, but that one likely passed by, due to it being from an extremely well known modder who has done nothing wrong in the past. Luckily this was discovered very quickly.
For me i only download a mod if a well known youtuber has linked to the page.
@@ryan20028 unfathomably based
It's entirely safe, it's the iris devs throwing a tantrum despite it being on a licence allowing it to be reuploaded
I'm glad Modrinth is becoming more popular now, it's such a nice fluid site that I've never had a single issue with, never had to watch a single ad or had any real concerns.
well, there is a single ad on the page, but its so unintrusive you just didnt notice it. thats why modrinth is nice.
yeah modrinth is nice, I heard curseforge can take like a week to review mods/modpacks
may I ask if there's a modrinth launcher with similar automation for dependencies and the like as the curseforge one?
@@deltainfinium869 uhm, modrinth is working on their own launcher, but atm prism is the best option as you can update singular mods in the launcher itself, besides changing modpack versions of packs from various sources
do you guys not use adblockers?
Thank you for making this video! It's an important issue that has plagued the comunnity for many, many years, yet unfortunately has not shown many signs of slowing down. Hopefully sharing this message will help.
My man woke up and decided to predict a huge virus attack and be 100% accurate
Modder here, thank you so much for shedding light on this issue. My team and I are tired of having our months of labor stolen to make more money than all of us combined. Helping educate others that this is happening, it's highly illegal, and highly dangerous is the first step to hopefully cull a good portion of these problematic sites. Keep up the fantastic work, love your videos!
I have a question.
What kind of revenue do you expect from your mod?
Do you host your mod on a own side or curse forge / monolith
@@phsiebler We have the mod on CurseForge and Modrinth. We make very little revenue, just the CF points and the little Modrinth pays. That's why it stings all the more when our work gets stolen.
@@nitro_dynamite18 understandable why you are frustrated I always assumed mod developers don't really earn money expect through donations. I hope this video will notify more people about the issue
I'm an experiences Java developer and was just wondering.. do you think Curseforge will remain safe to use in the future? Kind of conflicted now..
@@doodle173_ I think so, yes.
Thanks for shining an extra light on the CurseForge situation!
Iris devs are just having a tantrum lmao
Last time I see creator that stealing content and upload but curseforge is you tube they have care at all in creators that boost their sites.
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 godzilla had a stroke reading this.
@@MudakTheMultiplier I heard it has spyware in it
@@starrymohannad eh, spyware might be a little bit strongly worded, but it definitely runs when you don't want it to and has access to files that I don't need a Minecraft mod manager to have access to. Honestly I would be fine using curseforge as designed if I didn't have to deal with that launcher. As it is I go through the hoops to use gdlauncher instead. Amazon saw that they had controll of Minecraft mods and got greedy.
Glad you mentioned modrinth. I've been using the site for mods and other stuff for a while now and its honestly one of the cleanest and smoothest running websites I've ever used for MC related stuff.
Really? I've found it to be janky, inconsistently performing, and lacking in absolutely basic features like tracking dependents to find addons. Their UI is also extremely user hostile with many redundant clicks and lack of clarity about downloads.
@@superslash7254"The most useless comment ever"
@@superslash7254 curseforge apologist right here 🤡🤡🤡
@@bigboy898how do you know that?
@tonybablony2041 He doesn't lmao
I remember once I downloaded mods from this specific minecraft site where *All Mod Downloads were .exe files* which is the biggest red flag ever, my toddler brain back then didn't even give that a thought so that was the main way I installed mods for a while, to this day I'm still surprised that website didn't give me a virus.
it could have been running something behind the scenes and you didn't realize it, like a cryptominer or botnet
@@squabbledOwO I'm pretty sure it didn't since I never had performance problems on that PC, plus this was back in 2010 - 2014, so crypto mining viruses weren't as widespread as they are today
@@squabbledOwO You would know if it was a cryptominer. Yes cryptominers work in the background, but they use absurd amounts of power causing noticeable lag and other issues that would quickly be noticed.
it did give you a virus
it could be a rat
Literally just happened to me, glad you're bringing attention to this because I remember when I was a kid and I'd get a hell of a lot of malware on my computer from using sites like this.
Thank you! As a mod dev, I hate my mod files being re-uploaded, mainly because they are often outdated.
I should add that the re-upload site's moderators frequently check for new mods. Usually, when uploading a brand-new mod to CurseForge, it appears in the Google search results re-uploaded on 1-2 sites by the NEXT MORNING. Some sites even use bots for it, which you can tell because of timestamps, and the article is a full copypasta of the mod description page.
Back in the days of 1.8, 9minecraft was my go to mod site and i only recently learned the truth. Thankfully i switched to curseforge over 6 years ago but it’s scary how many of these sites are out there.
Honestly pretty much same for me. I was reletively new to MC modding and didn't know where else to find mods at the time.
I'm honestly just relieved I had my dad who was already in the modding community. He told me and my sister where to go and we've been following him. He just kinda guides us through everything when it comes to modding things.
@@spoopyvirgil4944 W Dad
@@spoopyvirgil4944 W
@@alvinmokhramTranslated your comment and got "UCZ3tm50N8W3le7U61BC4FMA W"
Dang, now I feel really bad for downloading mods from sites like these. I had no idea those types of websites were malicious. Thanks for shedding light on this, I'll definitely be more careful and mindful from now on.
Now that I think about it, so many mods I've tried to download previously would always crash my game. I always thought it was because of my computer, as it's just a regular Mac and not a gaming computer, but now I'm wondering if this is a reason why it happened
Uhmm u should probably reset ur mac tbh and the passwords of everything important 2 this sounds alot like a virus
@@poppedbymoney no it’s probably just the computer we don’t know yet
It happened to me, but I always solved it because most of the time 9minecraft doesn't update the mods, so I always ended up finding the mod on curseforge and downloading the latest version and the game stopped crashing
maybe the mod version was wrong despite trying your best to get the correct version from those sites
i get lag issues but probably because I sometimes use many mods at the same time on a pc that occasionally takes 2 hours to load Google chrome
Im glad someone is actually talking about this, this has been popular for too long.
As a minecraft veteran of 11 years, this is shocking to me since I havent used many mods in recent years, but back in my early days, 9Minecraft and many of these sites were almost my go to. I hope this video is seen by someone similar to me in my early beginnings so they dont make the mistakes I did back then.
I've been playing since Alpha. I've never used mods and this just solidifies me keeping with vanilla
@@camwyn256 well, that doesnt mean that all mods WILL have malware, its just shitty people doong shitty things to gain profit
@@BagOfButtons very true, however I'm good with vanilla MC. Always coming out with new stuff.
Now Fallout and Elder Scrolls. Those games I mod the crap out of, after playing first through vanilla. Also, the Nexus is really good. Never got any maleware, but I also go through all the reviews before downloading a mod.
@@camwyn256 fair enough tbh
@@BagOfButtonsVery true
As someone who has been installing mods since beta and remember the times before Forge was a thing but haven't paid a lot of attention to the scene for the past few years I'm honestly surprised that some of these shifty sites are still around, over a decade later.
Thank you, my man. I last used 9minecraft 6 months ago for maps, but when I found the stop mod reposting extension I will never download something form these sites. Again thank you for spreading the word!
The problem with saying "don't download from those sites" is that a lot of the time, they're the only source for mod/texture pack you're trying to find, especially if it's for older versions. If every mod/texture pack maker actually kept an archive of the things they made, people (like me) wouldn't have to resort to downloading from sketchy websites.
atleast scan it with virustotal
You can't get those versions anywhere because those versions don't exist. 9minecraft and the like prey on people like you by having misnamed mods.
@@Elian504 ehh, not always true.
sometimes a dev makes a port (or in most cases just a mod) and then deletes it, thus making the sketchy site the ONLY way to get it(unless you somehow find someone with the original file...and even then good luck.
er, both on finding them and it not being malware.
@@Elian504 Definitely not true. Older versions of mods (namely beta 1.7.3 mods/TP) are almost always either lost to time, stuck on an HDD in a landfill, or on said sketchy sites. It's very hard to find very old versions of LB Photo Realism, KDS Photo Realism, etc. without the use of potentially malicious sites.
@@nasrinatiyeh how do you say not true when you mentioned the same sketch sites?
sometimes there is just no other source for the old mods we used to have once before, if getting from any of them 9minecraft is best chances vs dead official source
The only reason to use these kinds of sketchy websites is if you're searching for a dead mod that only they have. I think I've gotten a few of such pieces of the past from them. As for good mod sources, Modrinth has been my go-to for quite some time now.
yes, they only a key to dead mods
It's like going to a landfill to try and salvage small pieces of electronics that are no longer in production.
Only do it if you know what you're doing, and only if you have sufficient security in a worse case scenario.
0:16 For those who don't know, formatting your computer means deleting every file and completely wiping the drive clean
I'm part of the Splatoon modding community and know how heartbreaking it is to have your content stolen. There was a huge modpack I worked on for months and some useless idiots reuploaded it as their own work shortly after the original release. It took me two years to build up enough confidence to relist the mod and post new stuff again, and I still haven't completely healed from it. Can't imagine what it's like to have it happening on this level, especially when money is involved 😟
if your content being reposted once is enough to kill your motivation then just don't be a modder lmao.
maximally thin skinned people.
@@gotgunpowder If one simple internet comment unrelated to you from TEN MONTHS AGO triggers you this much for no valid reason, then just get off the computer and go do something actually useful with your life lmao.
Maximally inflated ego people with a skill issue, smh. Thanks for giving me a good laugh tho this is hilarious
I HIGHLY suggest, no matter where you get a file, at the very least scan it with virus total. And make sure you have a good antivirus. No one is immune to viruses.
well said
This is a really good reminder that these people who make mods for Minecraft have lives. You may not think that there work being stolen matters since it’s just a Minecraft mod, but we don’t know the authors position. This could be there final resort to make some money.
what are they afraid of an job application?
Sadly this problem doesn't only exist in the Minecraft modding community...
I'm glad this most likely won't happen to modded Terraria due to it having it's own official launcher.
Mods that want to be on there have to be reviewed by the Tmodloader team first. It also makes it easier to find mods since they're all in one place.
The same being the case for Minecraft would be awesome
Mate just predicted a whole attack
Minecraft Fractureiser Incident.
It applies to more than cursed forge but also mordith
Crime groups and lone criminals in general are like mushrooms. Even if you catch them it wont matter as they’ll either spring up again elsewhere or some other group will take there place. It really is disgraceful how so many people are ok with doing this regardless of reasons.
And like mushrooms, the only way to get rid of them completely is a scorched earth policy, which takes every other plant in the crossfire
Thank you for shedding light on this. Some of my datapacks were stolen by 9minecraft and god knows who else.
Great video, Thank you for making people aware of this, I speak alot with mod creators and getting their mods/assets stolen is one of the worst feeling
Wow didnt expect to find you here
this aged really well
I've been developing smaller mods for awhile now and this issue is far more rampant than most would think. Even when my mods having first started with only 2 or 3 thousand downloads to their name, they were still stolen and spread across these websites.
What's even worse is when youtubers or individuals making content with your mods then link back to these pages insinuating that its the original download point. When your a small author there's nothing to really do as your word goes nowhere in the large scheme of things. I'm glad more people are speaking out about this now.
Sucks cuz I published a few mods for fabric and every single mod got stolen without credit
I feel sorry for all the people who spent months creating a mod only for it to be stolen by someone
Always great when MisterEpic uploads
wow that transition is dope 2:25
Yeah, it is awesome.
Hello verified person
As a Russian, there are plenty of such reuploading sites here, that reupload optifine, mods, texture/resource packs even, anything you can imagine. Copyright laws are not well implemented in Russia at all, at least regarding pirating sites, mod reposting sites, etc. Therefore it's quite impossible to take down such sites (that were hosted in Russia). It's a big shame, considering how much malware these sites have, and how many people fell for it. I myself fell for those kind of sites when I was younger, despite Google constantly warning me about the potential risk behind those files, thinking "Oh, it's completely normal, it's meant to happen, right?" No, it would not have such a warning if those files were indeed safe and uploaded by the original creators (like OptiFine, for example)
All of this to say, this is the reason why many of such sites are hosted in Russia and made by Russians, because they would suffer little to no consequences. I gotta hate how people have no shame or remorse for making and spreading malware, especially through someone else's work
I’m busy reinstalling Minecraft today, as I have gotten rid of TLAUNCHER. Thanks for shedding light on that too!
I think CurseForge is still one of the safest places to download mods anyway, you just have to be careful what you download.
Exactly plus i obly download mod from trusted ppl and well known modders
@@Xqliber Me too.
yeah a sodium mod with 3 total download is not a good sign
@@minhperry exactly which is why you shouldnt download mods under 50k downloads EVEN THEN its still alot of risk
Thats why I only ever do well known modpacks and never make my own
I saw curseforge and scare the shit out of me.
in theory, the only protection for open source mods to prevent reuploads like this is filing the name as a trademark.
but that costs money which modders usually don't have to throw around.
and if it is some page like 9minecraft, an international trademark suit will be expensive.
I can guarantee you you won't be able to file a trademark for a mod without the owner of the game you're modding sueing you into oblivion, and i don't mean the game.
@@nonyabisness6306 sounds like something Nintendo would do
@@pumkin610 true lmao
@@pumkin610 in fact they do.
@@nonyabisness6306 why? of couse you can't trademark the games name. but the mod is its own creation, with copyright and a name, that can be trademarked. of course, that won't stop the shady pages like 9minecraft, but curseforge should respect that.
and even for the owner of the game itself are some benefits to this: nobody wants a game where you easily run into the problem of having malware-mods.
As a mod developer myself, I think a problem at least with my mod is, that the license I use (MIT) allows to re-upload and share own versions of the mod. So I can't even do anything against the reuploading until I change the license and I think this is also others problem
That's a feature, not a problem.
Use correct licensing.
@@WGSXFrank Ah. What open-source license do you suggest which allows for unrestricted use in modpacks but forbidds reuploading on sites like 9minecraft?
@@robocraft999 sadly those kind of license does not exist, if you prohibit the users rights to redistribute the software then by definition your software is not open source.
however, (this is not legal advice btw) you might able to use some restrictive open source license (cant think any that i use, gpl maybe idk) or a license that require any changes made to the software must be clearly declared to the user (artistic-2.0 sounds like a good license for it however i legit never see it being battle tested on court)
This aged fantastically
I noticed a mass exodus of mods form curseforge just yesterday. Mod menu left curseforge too.
Say what sounds like i have to stop using curseforge guess im switching to modrinth
oh so that's why i felt like i was missing something when using the overwolf thing, i wasn't able to get JEI to open up the mod menu correctly
@@JuliTV123 ahh yes i still will have the curseforge app to play certain cool modpacks but i wont use it for individual mods like sweet create
@@Jaymonu12 i too still use curseforge (for over years now) but i kinda plan switching to other websites
but why?
what reason do they have to private the mods on there?
people can still download them(or if people already downloaded them, they can still see the mod's name and page) so why remove them?
This Whole situation for the Modders and the Downloaders Mods/Data Stolen really hurts everyone and I feel for everyone that has gotten there PC’s hacked and the Modders work stolen. Thanks for the update video
this is one reason Farming Simulator now has an official mod hub that is available in-game and all mods are tested by Giants before going public
Weird that this video was uploaded around the time the virus first entered curseforge
The first one was 7 years ago for some security testing...
As a java dev who moderates and makes mods for the community, i sure am sad that curseforge themselves are REFUSING to take down any sort of malicious files.
Bro that thumbnail scared the hell out of me 💀
I literally cannot play vanilla without mods anymore because it gets boring too quickly now; I've played minecraft only with modpacks with around 100+ mods. This is some really useful information
what websites do u suggest for bedrock add-ons/mods
curseforge doubled down because the point of open source licenses like that are that people can take and reupload them wherever, that's the point of choosing the open source licenses they have. That and someone's ability to modify these things however they see fit, and redistribute those modifications even with the original source code. Redistributing with malware is obviously wack, but else i'm not sure why an open source developer would care about reposts. I dont think curseforge is as in the wrong as you protray them, and i think you miss the philosophy of these kinds of open source licenses to begin with.
Irus in their tweet said that they were illegally reuploading irus. However, Irus is literally wrong about this, the open source license they selected allows for such a reupload. Curseforge was correct in saying that it's not illegal, and if irus wanted it to be illegal they could've chosen a license that gives them more control over the distribution of their open source code. The power is in their hands. This is really weird fear mongering, and curseforge is fine.
Yep.
Also, CF only took down the Iris/Sodom pages because the devs broke ToS by linking to modrinth in the descriptions after archiving their files.
Do I personally agree with the rule? No. But it is a rule that enforced on CF.
People need to know about this. CurseForge's actions on their pages, on the re-uploaders are completely fine. Letting those things to happen is their (mod authors) own fault. I'm not even sure they'll make more profit on Modrinth (100% doesn't mean more). Also CurseForge is working hard to improve their website this year, issues like versioning scheme, markdown, ... is going to be fixed. Too bad they have already done reputation damages hence people are moving away.
Sad how this comment only has 20 likes, but the ones spreading misinformation have hundreds.
Back in the days of 1.5 I used to download mods from some russian dude's website, the place itself didn't look shady but the mods there were definitely stolen. They used to distribute the zip files at one point but would slowly get replace these with some weird installer that would try to insert malicious software into the computer I used. Glad to see someone finally call out sites like that one.
As a modder, I personally couldn't recommend Modrinth more, it is relatively new, comes with a super cool UI and supports PrismLauncher (which is by far the best Minecraft Launcher out there imo). And it has basically almost everything that curseforge does.
and it also gives us more money
I always knew 9Minecraft was sketchy but I'm really sad about Curseforge. I've been using it for Minecraft mods for years, and recently for The Sims 4 mods, and it sucks to see the platform fail the very same modders it's supposed to be for. When Curseforge first started supporting Ts4 mods, I was surprised that a lot of modders were actively deciding NOT to use the platform, despite it's benefits. Now I can see why.
Damn, it is actually really disheartening to see the minecraft modding community being plagued by piracy. I sincerely hope that something can be done to prevent this from going on any further
Piracy is supposed to be a good thing :(
@@TylerTMG bro wtf
impossible to prevent the reuploading of mods it is just a old natural process with a few putting a random virus in their files
@@foolishgoose453 some games i want to buy there stuff but i dont have money so i pirate it until i have money
@@foolishgoose453 piracy is a good thing its a way to check a game out its the same as a demo/trial
Kinda surreal how things are getting worse and worse in this community. It's almost cartoonish at this point. Makes me wish Minecraft wasn't basically the only game like itself.
There's also MineTest.
Dang, this legend was ahead of everyone else!
Both Iris and Sodium have this in their licences:
"You may make, run and propagate covered works that you do not convey, without conditions so long as your license otherwise remains in force."
Why are they crying that their work is re-uploaded without permission when they gave out permission to anyone to re-upload the mod?
Important context for the Iris/Sodium situation; the developers decided to exclusively post their mod on modrinth and not curseforge which then lead to them archiving the mod on curseforge. The mod was still fully accessible to but then curseforge went ahead and deleted the entire page, breaking modpacks that use either mod. Then leading to the situation shown in the video.
Several other mod creators are also moving over to exclusively post on modrinth. A fully video on curseforge/overwolf involvement with mod/bedrock addon upload sites(mcpedl/curseforge) could be interesting @TheMisterEpic
CF only deleted the page because the devs broke ToS by linking to modrinth in the description.
While I personally don't agree with that rule, the spin that CF deleted the pages out of spite is exaggerated at best.
@@WGSXFrank Oh I wasn't aware of that, all I knew was shortly after they announced that the page was deleted
@@WGSXFrank Iris broke the rule of not having public files for download, which to be clear was a rule that did not exist prior to this and was created specifically for this situation.
Linking to other sites is not against the rules, and Iris has done it for years with it's own installer link.
Even more important context: The GPL-3 license explicitly allows redistribution and Curseforge only deleted the original pages because Iris devs deliberately violated the curseforge terms of service. This was basically the already famously toxic Iris devs throwing a tantrum, then throwing an even bigger tantrum when there were consequences for violating the ToS of the site, and then throwing an even bigger tantrum than that when someone did something 100% legal according to the license they chose to release under. Iris devs want the benefits of GPL-3 without the obligations
@@superslash7254 So CF not bad? Interesting
As someone whose entire personality was defined by Minecraft mods at some point, I am ashamed to say that I didn't know that 9minecraft wasn't an official source. I mainly used curseforge myself, but I had heard of 9minecraft. It is heartbreaking to see how people are stealing other's work.
Same here man, I genuinely thought it was the official site for any minecraft related add ons
I used 9minecraft alot and I believed it was safe now I'm so sad that I have been supporting bad people
So that's why my computer has command prompts on startup... 💀
Maybe, I’ve never downloaded from websites that I haven’t verified are safe and games/mods and I have command prompts on startup dk why tho
@@SlightlyCringe, I thought I was being safe getting stuff from Planet Minecraft and Curseforge and apparently I wasn't being safe enough
Windows does that on a fresh install sometimes.
it's not that
@@bluesillybeard it shouldn't but I know some shit drivers do
It's sad that one's hard work and passion for making a mod can easily get stolen by someone else for profit
though I will say it's funny how one of these sites is so popular that people try to make sites impersonating that one, it's like a double layer scam
"There's no honour among theives" or smth idk
The writing has been on the wall for years, and now it's finally built up enough to where it's wreaked havoc on the entire Minecraft modding community. This may very well be the dark ages for us people
That's a big yikes. Thank you for making the community aware
Now more than ever, it seems Curseforge needs to work on its PR.
Have you considered the possibility for Mojang to host their own official mod platform for Java? It won't be a mod system like reinventing fabric or forge, just an official mod repo.
I mean... There's the marketplace, but that's kind of. uh. well you know how that thing is
good lord no. i do not want the bedrock market place in java.
They'll make you pay for the mods 😂
@@VelvetCake423 BAHAHAHAH no that would be horrendous
Just look over at bedrock and ask yourself if you want that
Mod menu, MemoryLeakFix, and MoreCulling have also left Curseforge and moved to Modrinth
I used to install Minecraft mods from 9minecraft when I was younger. Even as a kid, I noticed it was very sketchy, but downloaded mods anyway because I wanted to play with mods. I'm pretty sure that's where my computer I had as a kid got the fbi ransomware virus.
Edit: As you stated, curseforge wasn't as popular yet, so it (9minecraft) was the main place to get mods.
One of my mod reviews lol 2:44 . Good times. 😄
This is why a lesson in digital literacy is extremely important. Teach people how to search for original authors of media, how to tell what's a copycat, and why it's important to do these very important steps.
Huge respect to Starmute, for what it's worth.
Real & True. Starmute is awesome
This reminds me of ThirtyVirus' plugins being blatantly stolen on SpigotMC, and the people running the site didn't care
A lot of times people are also led to download from these sources as curseforge sometimes simply doesn't host the version of the mod they want, but then again, those versions are probably unavailable for a reason.
The reason being that that its not developed, curseforge doesnt pick and choose what versions they publish
I like when he says:"No pressure ofcourse". I love your vids , keep the great work man!!
It's important to note that most of these websites are mostly visited by people that don't speak English, i speak Spanish and i've only recently discovered about CurseForge after years of downloading mods on repost pages
I'd like more clarification on this. I feel like a lot of this way declaration, save for a couple events here and there from the less reputable sites.
Although what curse forge did wasn't fair, and they are absolutely entering/entered a corporate mindset, I need a little bit more information before I can acknowledge them as 'unsafe.'
What they did was shitty, but they are not unsafe. Just shit.
11:40 just because a mod is open source doesn’t give people the right to commit trademark infringement, break licensing, and spread malware. This is obvious fud from a team that doesn’t understand the legal implications, and is trying to avoid taking action.
I knew that they were illegally re-uploading, but I didn't care. Now I do and I feel bad for the mod developers.
Why would a company like Overwolf allow you to advertise a direct competitor on their platform? Honestly, the Modrinth links and images were up way too long for an ad-driven, profit-first company.
It's not just ads as well. The mod developers actively crapped on CurseForge, on CurseForge; and acted like Modrinth is a glorious website with no issues and we are the problem for not using that website instead, as if we had a choice on what platforms had what mods, and uses which launcher.
I am a mod developer and a modpack creator myself. I am also in contact with a lot of developers. If you overlook the CurseForge hate, Modrinth is not the hero of Minecraft modding. They too have strict, unexpected rules, and weird categorization and search. Yes, the website experience is miles better than CurseForge, but at the end of the day, we come there to mod our games.
If everyone made open source software under something like the GNU General Public License, we wouldn't have this problem. There is no such thing as intellectual property and this a great representation of why the system fails. Also malware isn't NEARLY as much of a problem on GNU/Linux type operating systems. If you are complaining about malware, please first consider the option of switching to a more secure OS and talk to an experienced user.
This unfortunately aged extremely well
Minecraft Fractureiser Incident.
You can't steal a free mod simply because its author is so complacent that he thinks he can stop someone from using his work.
This is the same form of copyright that large corporations use, and you are the conductor of this corporate culture. Attempts to destroy any alternatives to "official" launchers will eventually end up making the creation and distribution of mods generally illegal without the sanction of microsoft, which will only lead to the fact that the simplest things will be sold on their shop for ten bucks. In this way, you yourself will lead people to the pirates and the illegal scene.
I'm so glad modrinth has come up and become popular. It's gonna be much better for the development of the mod community, having a website dedicated to mods that has a UI that isn't trying cram things down your throat.
Honestly a video endorsing good places to acquire mods would be great.
I loved it when you said "It's epicin' time" and epiced all over the stolen mods
Best part of the video fr
he absolutely The Mistered 9Minecraft to its knees
That thumbnail scares me 😭😭😭
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You have to keep in mind though this is the Iris dev team we're talking about. Their mods are GPL-3 licensed and redistribution is explicitly legal and the entire issue was caused by them deliberately violating the curseforge terms of service. Their behavior here and tweets is clearly as bad faith as their own deliberately deceptive project website. The fact is their own behavior has been as consistently toxic as the community they created, which quickly fractured yet further because of that very drama-ridden toxicity. There's a reason the saying is that forge developers talk about minecraft, and fabric developers talk about how much they hate forge developers and players.
As a mod creator, I appreciate you taking the time to point out how harmful mod reposting sites are to content creators. We work hard to make enjoyable mods and get very little reward as it is. These reposting sites destroy creativity in the long run. Why would I want to put my heart and soul into a project knowing that it'll be stolen without consequence within a few days? Please only download from official hosts and stop rewarding the thieves. Thank you.
I try to only use Modrith, and if it not avaible there I reach out to other places. I have never liked Overwolf and when I heard they were buying CurseForge that is when I stopped using the website all together.
I wasn’t even sure what Overwolf was until I found it on my computer. When I tried to find out what it was, it seemed to be a legitimate web browser, though it’s weird it was even on my computer when I installed CurseForge, as it was there without my knowledge.
I'm all for removing mod reposts that contain viruses or false versions but going "nooo they're making money off my mod delete it!!" is extremely hypocritical and frankly quite funny. Mod creators can be pretty stupid and narcissistic at times so I don't have any sympathy toward them "losing money" at all.
video aged like wine lmao
It is only a month old. And, if I may point out, it has been like this for a very long time. If this video is anything; it is late.
Thanks for bringing this to the light. i made a video on this but your so big so you made so many more ppl more aware of this!
it is funny to me how youtubers are starting to address this only when the damage has been already done
Seeing this happen to curseforge is incredibly worrying- luckily I've started to make my way over to just using Modrinth but.... What about the Curseforge Launcher? I use it for its various separate instances, I get it is probably still safe to use since the main issue is just downloading mods themselves... But it still makes me nervous...
fr bro I just got into modding yesterday 😭
I didn't even know they were doing this and I been doing it for a while now
to be honest, for now curseforge is still safe, keep using it, but remember to be sure that the mod you clicked is the real mod
Ive pretty much always used MultiMC and will so forever. Only downside is it doesn't support curseforge modpacks, but ATLauncher does still, and i dont see any glaring issues with it. I found the curseforge launcher very 'sus' due to the aggression of whatever overwolf is and the confusing UI and built in ads.
But to answer directly, the curseforge launcher I agree is probably safe, but i wouldnt recommend staying with it.
Modrinth will have its own launcher, but it's still in development. In the meantime, I've used Prism Launcher, but I've heard that ATLauncher is also good.
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I’d say Modrinth will be the best option for downloading mods, it's nice and clean.
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1.The website in that image is a Pyramid scheme scam site
2. Those are clearly fake cash (Vietnamese uses VND, not USD)
Idk what to say here, just wanted to show some stuff about the image
Additionally, the recent-ish conundrum with Alex Mobs epic fail on the first april joke (mod behaved like a malware, downloading copyrighted video stuff onto the player's pc and upon deletion downloaded it again, and if it did not work it could have caused very erratic griltching screen that was lethal to epyleptics) and the fact that cf did not check that mod at all, sets up a very negative and bad precedent now. Alex broke a serious law and now set-up a precedent for bad actors to make mods into malvare now.