As a reminder, curse forge has been bought and sold by lots of people. It’s had a bumpy road and by this point it’s only mostly the people in it for the money running curse forge not the original people who care
@@IamMortuithe only problem with your statement is that if they desperately NEED money they’ll have to sell it, or become homeless with a lot of company buyouts.
@@frozenolafnick5813 They never desperately needed money though and that argument doesn't work. Because if they were homeless they would not be on a computer hosting a website that was VERY popular and made TONS of revenue from just ADS alone. Nice try.
@@IamMortuiYou also fail to realize, most of the times when companies "sell out" they need it to maintain updates or to expand their team for better updates. Money doesn't just come out of nowhere especially when you become an employer.
I still remember when Twitch bought out Curse. That stupid launcher straight up broke on my PC, refused to load any Minecraft instance ever. And when I went to the forums to report this obviously horrific issue? "Tough, get a new PC lol." They lost my support long ago.
the day twitch bought curse it was destined to go to ruins and shambles, i use to have a giant server(voice chat) in curse app and i hated every bit of the twitch changes
5:06 - Expansion: LGPL allows you to redistribute the code from the project. That *doesn't* allow you to use their name or branding, which relates to fraud, trademark (possibly), and computer misuse law. It's a separate portion of the law which relates to completely different aspect of the project.
The GPL family of licenses were made to prevent any entity from controlling the software licensed by it and any derivatives of it, this includes the author themselves. I don't know why the author would license it under the LGPL and then expect to have exclusive control, as the license is designed to prevent that. It ensures that software legally cannot be taken away from the community that wishes to use it or improve upon it. If someone takes the mod and improves, the original author should be glad of that, for it gives people better software.
@@fungaldroid The (L)GPL allows you to redistribute software but does not allow you to impersonate the original author. It actually forces you to credit the author, because they are still the legal copyright holder. More specifically, the GPL states that: "4. Conveying Verbatim Copies. You may convey verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice;" The GPL never waives the original authors' copyright over the work, therefore if the work is published by someone else it must be explicitly marked as copyrighted by the original author.
@@andreimiga8101 I can't see my comment here, I guess RUclips hid it, which really sucks, because I have forgotten what I wrote. I noticed this reply by chance, and it looks like you are replying to nothing, but YT has informed me of the reply. Can you see my comment? I may have agreed with you if I knew what I said, but I have no idea, so can't have an opinion with that information missing. Also, can you still see what you replied to? Edit: One thing I am sure about, is I never said anyone shouldn't attribute, I am for attribution, I know that. So it seems like you are to make it look like I was saying things I didn't. I know I would have said that LGPL does allow reuse code in their own project, the author explicitly gave them that right. If attribution is required then so be it, I am actually for that, you know. But if you do have the text to my comment, I'd love to see it.
@@andreimiga8101 Now I can see my original post, but I can't see yours. Can still see your post through notification area. Thank you very much for replying. I downvoted your comment because it looked like it was implying that I supported not attributing original authors which is totally incorrect. I apologise for that, I should have looked upon your comment in an sympathetic, favourable way. A sympathetic way like you are just giving me information that these people are taking without attributing and that is a big issue. I managed to upvote your initial comment through the notification area, but now your comment disappeared again, it is weird. Again I apologise. If YT hid your comment because of one initial downvote, that's insane.
I just made a server using it hah, god damn it.... I am still going to use CurseForge for the server though as this is way easier for my use case and is already set up.
"modded minecraft server using curseforge" please make the distinction between "Forge", the modloader, and "CurseForge", the mod distribution site, as they're 2 completely separate things
@@rosemary1541 why would you assume they meant forge? the players of the server could be using the cursed forge launcher to easily have a separate instance for the mod pack like many people do.
This has been such a fascinating story to watch from a distance. I've been seeing a lot on twitter and such about this stuff. Excellent job describing the issues and showing the full situation! Here's hoping this recent security problem will push Curseforge to make some changes.
@@sylv512 "anymore"? A lot of it just flat out isn't true to begin with. For instance the claim that viruses got spread through compromised curseforge accounts, which just isn't true. The virus was designed to spread to other .jar files on your system so mod developers, who tend to download and use a lot of .jar files, would get infected, and then the virus would copy itself into their in-development versions of the mods before upload. It was phrased like it was an issue with curseforge and their security, but it wasn't even remotely related to that. It'd be like blaming walmart because you got the flu there from other customers.
I literally love modritnth for the simple fact that downloading anything is as straightforward as clicking the download button, on curseforge the download button is a launcher download and you have to click some smaller text off to the side to actually download what you want😭
While not used by the average player, the API is top-notch as well. I only use ~20 mods, but get all of them from Modrinth, with the exception of Litematica and WorldEdit because they are not available there.
It's important to note that the api changes are fully at the will of mod developers. They can choose whether their mods can be downloaded through third party launchers.
@@Akhimed There are apparently a few approved exceptions (Sodium being the major one I know of). I don't know what's on the list or where to find it, though.
@@benjaminmiddaugh2729 yea cause sometimes I would try search mods in curseforge to try to mix with some modrinth ones and it never worked only showed me mod packs
I love when monopoly businesses reach their end. Why cant a business just be good and not ruin its self like this. Its really not hard to not squeeze every last penny out of people you are offering services to.
@@hadrian.2796late stage capitalism? We're not even in the middle stage. Greed has always been a human issue, and is hardly argue greed is good for a business. Curseforge/twitch/ every company with a monopoly eventually fails due to poor quality product and complacency until a competitor arrives to challenge them again, that's just capitalism
@@Jiub_SNActually, yeah, you're so right about this. I was about to argue that this was definitely the late stages of capitalism because the only way you can progress in it is to get so greedy you take over everything and destroy it, but they haven't even gotten there yet. All capitalism is guaranteed to become the story of Icarus; they fly too close to the sun, burn up, and then crash into the ocean below. But they haven't even succeeded in having a completely locked down monopoly yet. Somehow they're already burning up before they could even bleed the community dry, and idk if it's incompetence on their part or a surprising amount of awareness from the community. Maybe a combo of both? I'm kinda proud. Hopefully Modrynrh works out better.
1 we're in late stage capitalism, it's 2023 not 1950 2 no greed is directly beneficial for your business especially if there are no alternatives, people won't stop using Facebook because there is no alternative, they can do whatever they want and people would still use Facebook, it's the same here, the only difference is that curseforge isn't big enough
One thing about Modrinth I really like is their maven api. A developer can easily make a mod interact with other mods by simply adding a dependency from Modrinth directly, I don't have to download the mod/hope the mod has uploaded their mod to a specific maven repository.
Amateurs... I'm playing on minecraft pe, the marketplace has no bugs no Trojans no glitches no bugs and no viruses... I need not care for such measly websites...
Honestly, I hope modrinth gets more traction. I absolutely love the site. Unlike CF, whose performance and ease of use in my experience has been terrible, I had no problem updating and editing my projects on modrinth. Modrinth's design is sleek and easy on the eyes, while I still flashbang myself on CF. For some reason, CF still uses their legacy site for alot of pages (sometimes I ask myself why they're calling it the legacy version if they're still using it). CF always tries to push their launcher and makes me wait to start my download but modrinth just straight up lets me download what I want. The only reason why I'm still using CF truth be told, is that CF projects get more visibility because of its bigger user base.
When I ran Better MC (Forge) BM3 with complementary shaders (yes I didn't get malware, this was a couple days ago.) I got 80/90 fps with freezing frames on Curseforge launcher. Then I did it with ATlauncher and I got 100-200 fps and no freezing. If that doesn't say something about Curseforge then idk what does.
@@wubsuf honestly thats not possible because after launching minecraft nothing seperates the launchers anymore. Minecraft doesnt care what its launched by, UNLESS you set a custom java version and/or custom JVM arguments in the launchers settings, which can be done on both (although changing java itself on curseforge is not easy to do)
@@commander3494 "I like your funny words, magic man." - JFK, Clone High. No but seriously. The most likely reason for AT performing better than CF is because when launching Minecraft, CF makes some errors (learned this from Lunapixel.) AT supposedly makes less errors than CF so the performance is better.
My favourite CurseForge bug is that mods you can see on the webpage are not necessarily on the app. The "Falling Tree Mod" (mine a whole tree by breaking the lowest + faster leaf decay) for example. It just straight up, doesn't find it. Even when I click "open this mod in the app" on the webpage doesn't work...
A little late but it’s because of how the version works, it attempts to install the newest version of the mod to your curseforge, so if you have a 1.18.2 instance, it might attempt to download a 1.20 version to the modpack, not working. You need to go to the website and go to files and find the version you need
The key takeaway here is that competition is good. Whether people want to stick with CF or try something new, the fact that there are viable options will always be better than putting your eggs all in one basket. I'm still waiting for a serious competitor to Nexus. ModDB is something, but it has its own wealth of problems.
Modrinth is nice, its extremely user friendly and offers a wide range of filters. It also makes it clear what dependencies a mod needs and whether its loaded on forge, fabric or both
This isn't my usual kind of video, but I felt that it was an important one to make. Please support the Sodium, Iris and Mod Menu authors by downloading their mods from Modrinth: modrinth.com
As a person who uses mods i think you did very well by spreading the word. Honestly it wont be bad to do this sort of informational videos about minecraft in general. This both alerts people of important news and gets you some much deserved views. Perhaps do it more often :)
THANK YOU FOR POSTING HOLY SHIT- I was literally going through shaders to add while listening and saw one of the users who made a faulty iris shader pack after i had installed. i deleted it immediately before using the pack. thank you, you're a life saver.
Hats off to everyone involved with Modrinth! Modrinth is exactly what modded MC needs, and I'm excited to see their launcher progress until it's ready for a full release! I've checked out the Modrinth page, and have not had luck finding anywhere to donate to the project. Is there a link I'm missing, or do they not have such a way to contribute financially?
It was already bad enough when mods were split between game versions, and it became worse when Fabric released, and mods started to become split between the 2 mod loaders. Now, while competition is good to prevent the mod distribution platforms from getting too scummy, like you said, it will make creating your dream modpack even harder now that mods will also become split between mod platforms.
Fabric was made because of some forge modloader issues or coding specifics that hindered some modders. Now there is also another mod loader called Quilt with some mods being Quilt only as well. Thankfully, this one has support for 99% of fabric mods so it isn't really an issue in terms of low mod author use. I was also very very hesitant about moving from Forge, but Sodium + Iris mods has been such an upgrade for me. Many essential type mods and Fabric/Quilt equivalent versions of other favorite mods are out now that the switch is easier to try. Another big plus was that MultiMC has support for all modloaders, making installation super easy. Now Im back to waiting for some mods to update to newer MC versions like before lol
@@NitroStarmanI recommend supporting VulkanMod developers, their works are absolutely crazy good. Basically VulkanMod is Sodium but crackhead edition which doubles or triples FPS of Sodium (unless you have an old ass GPU before 2016, then you're cooked)
Another example was the exodus of modders moving from forge to fabric; to be honest I think this all stinks, while I understand both sides rationale it doesn't change the fact that players are also getting screwed over by this mess and this spillover of this feud between developers and platforms does nothing but force people to take sides and (maybe it's me just being selfish and petty but) that is the last thing I want to deal with when I just want to enjoy a game with my favorite mods.
There isn't any real exodus. ONE person and a small clique split off, and they themselves were so toxic that fabric didn't last more than a few years before its entire community (such as it is) split again into quilt. Every serious content mod for minecraft is on Forge. The forge community is about minecraft, the fabric community is about how much it hates forge.
For a user you're getting effectively double the Ads as a result. Before Modrinth eventually gets owned by someone it will be fine. Then we just have 2 Curseforges. Modrinth is less then a 1 piece of tissue paper on a serious wound. There isn't anything wrong with standing up for yourself, but it is just going to make everything worse still unless society grows and stops going off the deep end.
I'll second that. There was a lot of backlash at the beginning (Forge is evil, go to Fabric!), but my experience with Fabric has been... disappointing to say the least. I personally never used Fabric because their lack of experience did not make me want to try it. Rightfully so. A couple weeks ago, I tried creating a Fabric profile to use MiniHUD (which discontinued support for Forge) and low and behold, Fabrig is plagued with compatibility issues between the loader, the API and to mods themselves. I play in 1.20.1 and the optifabric mod for 1.20.1 has compatibility issue with the latest available version of the loader and the API for 1.20.1 so I had to try older versions of them until I found a working version... Talk about user experience. Result of it: went back to Forge and I use the fabric profile only when I need miniHUD, I mark what I need and switch back to the forge install.
@@superslash7254 the fabric modding community is very much alive. A lot of insanely good performance and content mods are only available for fabric (and via modrinth). And forge is still a legal (and technical) minefield from a devs POV. Forge is IMO just... worse and they should have just discontinued it after Fabric gained traction.
as a minecraft launcher developer i can say that it is much easier to work with modrinth, cause their api is just very good documented and i dont need to get in contact with them to get fuckin api key. i just wanna get modpack list from your website!
I already did lol,it's really faster when it comes to downloading.On CurseForge when you download a mod online,you have a 5 seconds timer.On Modrinth you just click download and that's it!
I'm planning to continue using Curseforge for a few months. Once they've significantly sabatoged themselves, all the mods I use should move to Modilith and I'll switch without losing any of them.
Lot of outdated / misinformation + explaining for 3 minutes why something is bad to end up in a sentence to explain why in fact it was logical for CF to do it, isn't the best way to prevent useless hate yeah
@@LineOfThy i think you need to realise that you don't make money from not making a logical choice. Restricting their API wasn't especially ideal but between that and knowing all devs would have earned at least 30 to 50% less money as one myself, sometime you need to make a restrictive choice, and talking for 3 minutes of how bad this idea was before saying "oh btw i said that but yeah it's true that without that they would have lost a huge part of their main money making method, so they were kinda forced to do that" is only a way to antagonize CF for no reason. Saying modrinth don't do this kind of stuff is stupid since modrinth benefits way more of being able to use mods on CF than the other way around, and I doubt that CF love the idea of not only losing money but also giving free money to concurrent for no other reason than "some peoples will find that nice"
Third Party downloads are such an easy and good way to download that it is simply unthinkable to use any other way. I want to be able to download my modpack and later edit mods or add new ones, not just download and play on a fixed instance that is hard to modify.
i hate to sound rude but could have possibly mentioned the new virus called "Fractureiser" or at least put it in the description so people know not to download mods for a while
@@Aphelia. You could have just linked the comment btw... I was interested in this, but I am not scrolling this ass long comment section to find this one comment you're talking about...
One thing I'd be careful about, Modrinth's 100% ad revenue isn't how reality works. Somehow the site needs to run and make money to support it. Seeing a 100% is often not trustworthy in the long term, it is too good to be true. It has the energy of someone trying to out compete so they can be the one screwing over others.
I recently started playing modded Minecraft for the first time, and I had no idea any of this was happening on Curseforge. Hopefully all my favorite mods find their way onto Modrinth.
Its really weird because I did all the scans on that Curseforge support page and there was no malware even though I vividly remember downloading Better MC (FORGE) BM3 for a test and deleting it a couple days ago. Maybe it was before it got compromised. If that's so, then I dodged a bullet.
@@mcsmileycorp I know you. You developed LDoH and Dawncraft. I've spend hundreds of hours playing those, especially LDoH. Thank you for your hard work there!
This whole situation just really sucks for the players like myself, because everything has been on curseforge and modrinth will take a while to get up to the content level of curseforge, along with older mods and packs needing to be re-uploaded.
ye, I would prefer if everyone just stayed in one area so I don't need to hop around websites and launchers and shit just to play a fucking block game without getting bored.
@@ligma6992 The key takeaway here is that competition is good. Whether people want to stick with CF or try something new, the fact that there are viable options will always be better than putting your eggs all in one basket.
This is really sad to hear ... i am playing minecraft since 1.9 beta and was modding it with forge ... really sad, i really hope they will fix all their problems.
And everyone wondered why the KSP community REBELLED when the devs announced CurseForge as the official place to get mods. NOW you see why we hated it.
Just realized how terrible of a cycle this is that I hope gets broken. A Site becomes terrible, people leave to an upcoming competitor, that gets big and the game starts all over again.
It’s the natural tech cycle. 1. Be a pioneer. 2. Grow to monopolize the market first. 3. Pay off your debt. 3.1 Abuse of your monopoly position to extract as much money as possible of your userbase 4. Profit ? 5. Either you squeezed the lemon too much and die or people keep using the platform and you are now profitable and generating steady profits
Sodium has gone back to using CF, the notice is no longer on the page and their latest update was Feb 8 2024. Also none of this was Curseforge's doing its all Overwolf, no one wanted to use the CF app because it required Overwolf to run along side it and that app has a detrimental effect on peoples PC's so they launched a "stand alone" version that in fact just hid Overwolf from popping up and you can still see it running in the system tray.
Overwolf, the parent company of CurseForge, really is just becoming the next EA. They try to monopolize pretty much any community they see, any try to advertise slow-running, required software to boot, all for the user experience to be hurt and damage communities.
I have been using curseforge for years now just because "it was good enough". Even though I constantly was complaining how slow(more like clunky) and unresponsive it is, it did the job. I should clarify that I play on an older version(1.12.2), so some mod distributing services might not have mods for the version. Today I tried Modrinth and it is a blessing. So fast, responsive and the collection of mods isn't much less than CF's. Additionally, there's this stuff that was discussed in this video, so I think I will switch to Modrinth altogether
Well, Modrinth is also more Fabric-heavy and encourages people to use Fabric, because it's more modern and most devs on there use it, while CurseForge literally has Forge in the name.
@@radstevee True hopefully it does cause a move to fabric though I wish all mod creators could get together and switch to fabric but I get that will never happen
I would totally go with Modrinth, the problem is that all the mods I want to play with are on...CurseForge. A lot of the mods I like are older or inactive mods like Railcraft aren't on Modrinth sadly, and in my opinion, that is the main reason why people were more reluctant to switch to Modrinth, until CurseForge got hacked. Now I'm hoping that more mods move to Modrinth so more people can access the mods they love.
thank you for this video, i've been looking for months for a legit alternative to curseforge. Kudos to the Sodium authors for making the move to something new and hopefully better.
Tbh, Modrinth is better. When downloading, there's literally no 5 second countdown unlike CurseForge. Modrinth just straights up download your mod without any problems.
I've only just found out with this video why the mods I use moved to Modrinth. Just whitelisted them on my AdBlocker because of it. After using the site its clear that its a million times better than Curseforge.
@@blrryfaceyes because they do not want to use the google Ad System and were unhappy with alternatives (lile ethical ads) they developed their own advertisement system Adrinth
Interesting video, but there is a flaw with the video that I think needs to be addressed. You state at the end of your video that you do not want people to spread negativity regarding curseforge and instead spread positivity regarding the competition. However, if that is the goal, then your thumbnail directly goes against that by listing curseforge as evil. Yes, it is a attention grabbing thumbnail, but I'm sure there are ways to make good thumbnails without going against your own stated goal?
Modrinth goated, I'm not even being modernity blind, most people who still use curse (unless they need curse to get mods) and glaze it are just nostalgia blinded.
As someone who plays alot of modded games (mostly Skyrim) ive seen this kind of thing happen on the nexus website many times over the years (from both the platform itself and mod creators)
I never knew about these mods. My knowledge ended on Optifine some 6 yeas ago. Recently I tried playing again, but my old PC isn't good anymore. But there's hope :)
Yes, there is definetely hope. There have been many incredible optimization mods made recently (sodium, lithium, starlight, ferritecore, modernfix, to name a few) that greatly improve the games performance making it run with so much less resources
Sodium is utterly insane for optimization of modern versions, and if you want something to make older versions just a tinge better than they used to be, Ears, despite being primarily a Fabric mod that modifies skin rendering for extra features, also has Forge backports that let 1.9+ skins render in 1.8 and earlier. Both of these are entirely clientside, and don't effect gameplay outside of what the individual lone player sees, and thus could be used even on Vanilla servers without issue or tripping anticheat.
Quit using optifine. Its trash and not worth the download. Start using sodium with iris for example and youll see that even your old pc will hit enjoyable framerates.
Monrinth is quite literally a byproduct of the Minecraft GODS, It is as if Jesus himself were thy to be a Minecraft mod launcher. The epitome of the greatest beauty the human species has ever bestowed upon. W Modrinth.
The FTB Team, who also did this with their API in conjuction with Curseforge, also protested Reddit doing the same thing and would ban anyone from their discord who called them out on it.
Curseforge is merely a hosting platform for forge based mods and others, if it were taken down it would only mean having to manually install mods including the forge modloader like we did before Curseforge came on the scene
If you are looking for another curseforge alternative I suggest the technic launcher. They have been around since 2011 and have a great library of old school modpacks
Another reason why there will never be another golden era of well-developed modpacks, aka expert (1.7.10 - 1.12.2). The community continues to fragment. First it was the division between forge, fabric and then Quilt. Now this.
@@Lusc1nt good thing when they decide to fucking work! I'm here to play minecraft not debug code and figure out why your mod isn't working as it should!
@@ligma6992 you act as if things were not objectively worse before fabric and quilt came out. quilt came out due to the fabric owners being actively hateful towards specific groups of people. fabric was simply better than forge, and quilt has owners that are simply better people than fabric. the shake-ups needed to happen a long time ago, but its a good thing its happening now because things will actually start working when the developers of the modding platforms actually take interest in their playerbase. forge is inherently built on janky shit and hard to work with, fabric is substantially better, and quilt is better than fabric in terms of the product and the developers. from a technical standpoint, the transition off of forge was the single greatest thing to happen to minecraft modding. you simply cannot reasonably do all the things the transition to fabric allowed on forge. the depreciation of forge is inevitable. if minecraft continues to have a large modding community forge simply will cease to be a viable option for the general userbase in the next 5 years. there is little incentive to keep developing with forge unless you specifically want to play older minecraft versions, and the wealth of mods from newer versions only keeps growing. there was a LONG period before things made the jump from 1.12 but when they finally did they really picked up steam. fairly soon larger mods will stop supporting both forge and fabric, a lot of good mods already dont support forge, and most of the random mods dont support forge. its only really the bigger mods that have a large playerbase that have a reason to include both but that reason is shrinking as the months pass.
That's a funny range of versions for a so called golden age. Minecraft Beta was the golden age of mods. Titans like Twilight Forest, Mo Creatures, Pistons, Industrial Craft, and so much more.
Thank you thank you for this important video! I needed to know this, this is just so bad! Its so hard to see creative people be free on stuff like this...
Thank God that Vintage Story's mod scene is hosted DIRECTLY on their own website, and is fully integrated into the game by design. I'm not going to ever run the risk of destroying my PC trying to mod Minecraft. I don't even touch Minecraft anymore.
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greed ruins everything, sadly.
Yea
Yup, the love of money is the root of all evil
True 👍
@@MatthewDavidson03 ye
That's why we need people with good morals to lead companies
The newest virus thing most likely only struck Curseforge because it's bigger, however that doesn't excuse the rest
It spreads via jar files, its unlikely curseforge was the only target.
also bukkit
@@wo0zee533 and moderanth
@@LeroxYT modrinth could find no malicious mods with that virus on their platform, their staff ran a scan
Its most likely just targeted at the entire modding community in general.
As a reminder, curse forge has been bought and sold by lots of people. It’s had a bumpy road and by this point it’s only mostly the people in it for the money running curse forge not the original people who care
"The original people who care" doesn't really work considering if they cared they wouldn't have sold out in the first place.
@@IamMortuithe only problem with your statement is that if they desperately NEED money they’ll have to sell it, or become homeless with a lot of company buyouts.
@@frozenolafnick5813 They never desperately needed money though and that argument doesn't work. Because if they were homeless they would not be on a computer hosting a website that was VERY popular and made TONS of revenue from just ADS alone. Nice try.
@@IamMortui frozen said they'll have to sell it or BECOME homeless not that they were.
@@IamMortuiYou also fail to realize, most of the times when companies "sell out" they need it to maintain updates or to expand their team for better updates. Money doesn't just come out of nowhere especially when you become an employer.
I still remember when Twitch bought out Curse. That stupid launcher straight up broke on my PC, refused to load any Minecraft instance ever. And when I went to the forums to report this obviously horrific issue?
"Tough, get a new PC lol."
They lost my support long ago.
I hate "support" forums. ether you wait an eternity for a response, or get a useless one. I don't need help "later" i need it now!
Yeah I just recently got into mods as I just got a pc and I exclusively use modrinth it’s super simple and just awesome
the day twitch bought curse it was destined to go to ruins and shambles, i use to have a giant server(voice chat) in curse app and i hated every bit of the twitch changes
@@xyrongonzalez3833 you'll have some dipshit say the most basic support tips and then they'll act like some genius
i remember dowloading the linux client being so happy to finnally play mods , then finding out that they do not give two shits about linux lol
5:06 - Expansion: LGPL allows you to redistribute the code from the project. That *doesn't* allow you to use their name or branding, which relates to fraud, trademark (possibly), and computer misuse law. It's a separate portion of the law which relates to completely different aspect of the project.
The GPL family of licenses were made to prevent any entity from controlling the software licensed by it and any derivatives of it, this includes the author themselves. I don't know why the author would license it under the LGPL and then expect to have exclusive control, as the license is designed to prevent that. It ensures that software legally cannot be taken away from the community that wishes to use it or improve upon it. If someone takes the mod and improves, the original author should be glad of that, for it gives people better software.
@@fungaldroid The (L)GPL allows you to redistribute software but does not allow you to impersonate the original author. It actually forces you to credit the author, because they are still the legal copyright holder. More specifically, the GPL states that:
"4. Conveying Verbatim Copies.
You may convey verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice;"
The GPL never waives the original authors' copyright over the work, therefore if the work is published by someone else it must be explicitly marked as copyrighted by the original author.
@@andreimiga8101 I can't see my comment here, I guess RUclips hid it, which really sucks, because I have forgotten what I wrote. I noticed this reply by chance, and it looks like you are replying to nothing, but YT has informed me of the reply. Can you see my comment? I may have agreed with you if I knew what I said, but I have no idea, so can't have an opinion with that information missing. Also, can you still see what you replied to?
Edit: One thing I am sure about, is I never said anyone shouldn't attribute, I am for attribution, I know that. So it seems like you are to make it look like I was saying things I didn't. I know I would have said that LGPL does allow reuse code in their own project, the author explicitly gave them that right. If attribution is required then so be it, I am actually for that, you know. But if you do have the text to my comment, I'd love to see it.
@@fungaldroid I can see your reply but not mine :P
@@andreimiga8101 Now I can see my original post, but I can't see yours. Can still see your post through notification area. Thank you very much for replying. I downvoted your comment because it looked like it was implying that I supported not attributing original authors which is totally incorrect. I apologise for that, I should have looked upon your comment in an sympathetic, favourable way. A sympathetic way like you are just giving me information that these people are taking without attributing and that is a big issue. I managed to upvote your initial comment through the notification area, but now your comment disappeared again, it is weird. Again I apologise. If YT hid your comment because of one initial downvote, that's insane.
Man, hearing all this after joining a modded Minecraft server using CurseForge is crazy.
I just made a server using it hah, god damn it....
I am still going to use CurseForge for the server though as this is way easier for my use case and is already set up.
same lol
"modded minecraft server using curseforge"
please make the distinction between "Forge", the modloader, and "CurseForge", the mod distribution site, as they're 2 completely separate things
@@rosemary1541 why would you assume they meant forge? the players of the server could be using the cursed forge launcher to easily have a separate instance for the mod pack like many people do.
@@thephoenixking1086 i just worked on a mod pack with this…
This has been such a fascinating story to watch from a distance. I've been seeing a lot on twitter and such about this stuff.
Excellent job describing the issues and showing the full situation! Here's hoping this recent security problem will push Curseforge to make some changes.
Yooo Knarfy! I'm a huge fan. Glad to see we got someone like you on our side.
half of it isn't even true anymore lmao
Oh hey kool it's Knarfy
Nobody cares about origin realms sadly
@@sylv512 "anymore"? A lot of it just flat out isn't true to begin with. For instance the claim that viruses got spread through compromised curseforge accounts, which just isn't true. The virus was designed to spread to other .jar files on your system so mod developers, who tend to download and use a lot of .jar files, would get infected, and then the virus would copy itself into their in-development versions of the mods before upload.
It was phrased like it was an issue with curseforge and their security, but it wasn't even remotely related to that. It'd be like blaming walmart because you got the flu there from other customers.
I literally love modritnth for the simple fact that downloading anything is as straightforward as clicking the download button, on curseforge the download button is a launcher download and you have to click some smaller text off to the side to actually download what you want😭
Also Modrinth is way faster than CurseForge
Yes, but files and stuff, and I’m too lazy to do all dat (I will prob switch tho)
modrinth is also actually used for setting mod dependencies for mods developed on top of the fabric api
While not used by the average player, the API is top-notch as well. I only use ~20 mods, but get all of them from Modrinth, with the exception of Litematica and WorldEdit because they are not available there.
iv used both every now and again i use curseforge the most because of friends but prefer modrinth
It's important to note that the api changes are fully at the will of mod developers. They can choose whether their mods can be downloaded through third party launchers.
They still require all mods in a pack to be from Curseforge, though. No mixing in downloads from Modrinth are allowed.
@@benjaminmiddaugh2729wait that’s why, I’ve been having so many problems with this exact scenario and was so confused why it doesn’t work
@@Akhimed There are apparently a few approved exceptions (Sodium being the major one I know of). I don't know what's on the list or where to find it, though.
@@benjaminmiddaugh2729 yea cause sometimes I would try search mods in curseforge to try to mix with some modrinth ones and it never worked only showed me mod packs
glad to see modrinth getting this much attention, loved it's open source first approach since the start
I love when monopoly businesses reach their end. Why cant a business just be good and not ruin its self like this. Its really not hard to not squeeze every last penny out of people you are offering services to.
Late stage capitalism is structured to function this way. When greed is rewarded sadly people will do bad things
@@hadrian.2796late stage capitalism? We're not even in the middle stage. Greed has always been a human issue, and is hardly argue greed is good for a business. Curseforge/twitch/ every company with a monopoly eventually fails due to poor quality product and complacency until a competitor arrives to challenge them again, that's just capitalism
The sheer willpower needed to resist greed.
Most people dont have it
@@Jiub_SNActually, yeah, you're so right about this. I was about to argue that this was definitely the late stages of capitalism because the only way you can progress in it is to get so greedy you take over everything and destroy it, but they haven't even gotten there yet. All capitalism is guaranteed to become the story of Icarus; they fly too close to the sun, burn up, and then crash into the ocean below. But they haven't even succeeded in having a completely locked down monopoly yet. Somehow they're already burning up before they could even bleed the community dry, and idk if it's incompetence on their part or a surprising amount of awareness from the community. Maybe a combo of both? I'm kinda proud. Hopefully Modrynrh works out better.
1 we're in late stage capitalism, it's 2023 not 1950
2 no greed is directly beneficial for your business especially if there are no alternatives, people won't stop using Facebook because there is no alternative, they can do whatever they want and people would still use Facebook, it's the same here, the only difference is that curseforge isn't big enough
ive been putting off updating my mods for 1.20 because im lazy
turns out it worked out in my favor
Same i didnt update since 19.2 i had luck
We gotta wait till those exist my guy
Same
Careful about updating right now-there’s been a serious virus going around
shit i just updated
One thing about Modrinth I really like is their maven api.
A developer can easily make a mod interact with other mods by simply adding a dependency from Modrinth directly, I don't have to download the mod/hope the mod has uploaded their mod to a specific maven repository.
it took me a few hours last week to find a working maven repo for hwyla, I really hope modrinth gets this right
You can do this already with the curseforge launcher
@@CoreTestines I've always had issues with curseforge API lol, not had really anything go wrong with modrinth
what is maven?
@@tooru a software build automation tool
lol I already had enough of curseforge's "wait 5 sec to download" with a bunch of stupid ads, goodjob Modrinth.
I think I’m a little late
.. i just wanted to play skyblock
Same
Um Me Too
Amateurs... I'm playing on minecraft pe, the marketplace has no bugs no Trojans no glitches no bugs and no viruses... I need not care for such measly websites...
@@AfricanBoyWithFood there faces killing me why nobody gaf
Honestly, I hope modrinth gets more traction. I absolutely love the site.
Unlike CF, whose performance and ease of use in my experience has been terrible, I had no problem updating and editing my projects on modrinth.
Modrinth's design is sleek and easy on the eyes, while I still flashbang myself on CF.
For some reason, CF still uses their legacy site for alot of pages (sometimes I ask myself why they're calling it the legacy version if they're still using it).
CF always tries to push their launcher and makes me wait to start my download but modrinth just straight up lets me download what I want.
The only reason why I'm still using CF truth be told, is that CF projects get more visibility because of its bigger user base.
When I ran Better MC (Forge) BM3 with complementary shaders (yes I didn't get malware, this was a couple days ago.) I got 80/90 fps with freezing frames on Curseforge launcher. Then I did it with ATlauncher and I got 100-200 fps and no freezing. If that doesn't say something about Curseforge then idk what does.
The legacy version is here half of the time cuz it's still under rework and some pages were not replaced atm ...
@@wubsuf AT and any MultiMC fork are just way better honestly
@@wubsuf honestly thats not possible because after launching minecraft nothing seperates the launchers anymore. Minecraft doesnt care what its launched by, UNLESS you set a custom java version and/or custom JVM arguments in the launchers settings, which can be done on both (although changing java itself on curseforge is not easy to do)
@@commander3494 "I like your funny words, magic man." - JFK, Clone High.
No but seriously. The most likely reason for AT performing better than CF is because when launching Minecraft, CF makes some errors (learned this from Lunapixel.) AT supposedly makes less errors than CF so the performance is better.
My favourite CurseForge bug is that mods you can see on the webpage are not necessarily on the app. The "Falling Tree Mod" (mine a whole tree by breaking the lowest + faster leaf decay) for example. It just straight up, doesn't find it. Even when I click "open this mod in the app" on the webpage doesn't work...
A little late but it’s because of how the version works, it attempts to install the newest version of the mod to your curseforge, so if you have a 1.18.2 instance, it might attempt to download a 1.20 version to the modpack, not working. You need to go to the website and go to files and find the version you need
I know right? I hate curseforge website
The key takeaway here is that competition is good. Whether people want to stick with CF or try something new, the fact that there are viable options will always be better than putting your eggs all in one basket. I'm still waiting for a serious competitor to Nexus. ModDB is something, but it has its own wealth of problems.
And what is wrong with nexusmods?
@teratokomi8731 everything. Oh my god try modding fallout 4.
@@Slimpicken That doesnt answer the question at all.
@tearex8688 I don't understand I have like 400 mods and the game is actually stable.
@@Slimpicken thats just the game my guy, coming from a man who has been modding fallout 4 and skyrim since release.
Modrinth is nice, its extremely user friendly and offers a wide range of filters.
It also makes it clear what dependencies a mod needs and whether its loaded on forge, fabric or both
This isn't my usual kind of video, but I felt that it was an important one to make. Please support the Sodium, Iris and Mod Menu authors by downloading their mods from Modrinth: modrinth.com
Its imortant, that you informate us
HAHA MY COMMENT WAS BEFORE YOUR COMMENT
As a person who uses mods i think you did very well by spreading the word. Honestly it wont be bad to do this sort of informational videos about minecraft in general. This both alerts people of important news and gets you some much deserved views. Perhaps do it more often :)
ures still bluedragonnuke
sad
0:25 I have not left the website, I still actively upload my mods there.
Hi ModMuss I love your work. keep being awesome
LiNa Modrinth
Well you should
Modrinth is shit
Please consider otherwise
Saw the news on this, thanks for informing us more Purp!
2nd comment on Rasplins comment check
Third hi rasplin ◡̈⋆🅷🅸(●’◡’●)ﾉ😊
Rasplin!
Rasplin, when new video?
@@Fyreflyingg no one cares
Eventually Curseforge is gonna show ads for Jerkmate and sports gambling.
THANK YOU FOR POSTING HOLY SHIT- I was literally going through shaders to add while listening and saw one of the users who made a faulty iris shader pack after i had installed. i deleted it immediately before using the pack. thank you, you're a life saver.
I thought this was gonna be about the fracturiser virus thing
Same
same
After hearing this, I finally understand that not even the most trusted ones are clean
@@smokeys1254 fracturiser can spread between jar files, so yes, not all mods are safe and you should check
Same, even though I’m 1 month late.
This truly places the “Curse” in Curseforge.
Lol 😂
Hats off to everyone involved with Modrinth!
Modrinth is exactly what modded MC needs, and I'm excited to see their launcher progress until it's ready for a full release!
I've checked out the Modrinth page, and have not had luck finding anywhere to donate to the project. Is there a link I'm missing, or do they not have such a way to contribute financially?
It was already bad enough when mods were split between game versions, and it became worse when Fabric released, and mods started to become split between the 2 mod loaders. Now, while competition is good to prevent the mod distribution platforms from getting too scummy, like you said, it will make creating your dream modpack even harder now that mods will also become split between mod platforms.
Fabric was made because of some forge modloader issues or coding specifics that hindered some modders. Now there is also another mod loader called Quilt with some mods being Quilt only as well. Thankfully, this one has support for 99% of fabric mods so it isn't really an issue in terms of low mod author use.
I was also very very hesitant about moving from Forge, but Sodium + Iris mods has been such an upgrade for me. Many essential type mods and Fabric/Quilt equivalent versions of other favorite mods are out now that the switch is easier to try.
Another big plus was that MultiMC has support for all modloaders, making installation super easy.
Now Im back to waiting for some mods to update to newer MC versions like before lol
@@NitroStarmanI recommend supporting VulkanMod developers, their works are absolutely crazy good.
Basically VulkanMod is Sodium but crackhead edition which doubles or triples FPS of Sodium (unless you have an old ass GPU before 2016, then you're cooked)
Curseforge is basically Fandom but Minecraft mods instead of video game/movie wikis
Another example was the exodus of modders moving from forge to fabric; to be honest I think this all stinks, while I understand both sides rationale it doesn't change the fact that players are also getting screwed over by this mess and this spillover of this feud between developers and platforms does nothing but force people to take sides and (maybe it's me just being selfish and petty but) that is the last thing I want to deal with when I just want to enjoy a game with my favorite mods.
There isn't any real exodus. ONE person and a small clique split off, and they themselves were so toxic that fabric didn't last more than a few years before its entire community (such as it is) split again into quilt. Every serious content mod for minecraft is on Forge. The forge community is about minecraft, the fabric community is about how much it hates forge.
@@superslash7254 as small as it was it had some good mods that dropped support for forge. But yeah, modding community should be about the game.
For a user you're getting effectively double the Ads as a result. Before Modrinth eventually gets owned by someone it will be fine. Then we just have 2 Curseforges. Modrinth is less then a 1 piece of tissue paper on a serious wound.
There isn't anything wrong with standing up for yourself, but it is just going to make everything worse still unless society grows and stops going off the deep end.
I'll second that. There was a lot of backlash at the beginning (Forge is evil, go to Fabric!), but my experience with Fabric has been... disappointing to say the least. I personally never used Fabric because their lack of experience did not make me want to try it. Rightfully so. A couple weeks ago, I tried creating a Fabric profile to use MiniHUD (which discontinued support for Forge) and low and behold, Fabrig is plagued with compatibility issues between the loader, the API and to mods themselves. I play in 1.20.1 and the optifabric mod for 1.20.1 has compatibility issue with the latest available version of the loader and the API for 1.20.1 so I had to try older versions of them until I found a working version... Talk about user experience.
Result of it: went back to Forge and I use the fabric profile only when I need miniHUD, I mark what I need and switch back to the forge install.
@@superslash7254 the fabric modding community is very much alive. A lot of insanely good performance and content mods are only available for fabric (and via modrinth).
And forge is still a legal (and technical) minefield from a devs POV. Forge is IMO just... worse and they should have just discontinued it after Fabric gained traction.
as a minecraft launcher developer i can say that it is much easier to work with modrinth, cause their api is just very good documented and i dont need to get in contact with them to get fuckin api key. i just wanna get modpack list from your website!
This video is wonderfully put together and presents the information in a way that even I can understand, great job Purplers!
Much like any Purplers video
@@toniee98 fr
0:34 "It's basically Optifine, ON CRACK." Words 2023 - Purplers
im switching to modrinth
I already did lol,it's really faster when it comes to downloading.On CurseForge when you download a mod online,you have a 5 seconds timer.On Modrinth you just click download and that's it!
Yes
Good
Already switched
Dude I switched months ago
I'm planning to continue using Curseforge for a few months. Once they've significantly sabatoged themselves, all the mods I use should move to Modilith and I'll switch without losing any of them.
you could move the mods manually especially if any of those mods are no longer supported they won't be moved
How did they sabotage themself ?
@@teezy1234Have you watched video?
It's funny that you ask ppl to only send positively to mod authors and not harass curseforge while the video thumbnail is curseforge = evil
Lot of outdated / misinformation + explaining for 3 minutes why something is bad to end up in a sentence to explain why in fact it was logical for CF to do it, isn't the best way to prevent useless hate yeah
@@armin0427 I think you need to realize that logical doesn't mean good
@@LineOfThy i think you need to realise that you don't make money from not making a logical choice. Restricting their API wasn't especially ideal but between that and knowing all devs would have earned at least 30 to 50% less money as one myself, sometime you need to make a restrictive choice, and talking for 3 minutes of how bad this idea was before saying "oh btw i said that but yeah it's true that without that they would have lost a huge part of their main money making method, so they were kinda forced to do that" is only a way to antagonize CF for no reason. Saying modrinth don't do this kind of stuff is stupid since modrinth benefits way more of being able to use mods on CF than the other way around, and I doubt that CF love the idea of not only losing money but also giving free money to concurrent for no other reason than "some peoples will find that nice"
@@armin0427 exactly. So why are you suggesting that purples was contradicting himself?
@@LineOfThy because showing a logical choice under the prism of evilness only raise fee hate and misperception of this informations
thanks for making this video, i heard curseforge was bad but i didnt know how deep it went.
Curse forge isn’t bad it’s just the hacker using malware from it
The moderators are also kinda unfriendly. At least mine... I tried uploading a modpack, and they were not really friendly
As of right now, Sodium, Iris Shaders, and Mod Menu are both back on CurseForge with 1.21
Modrinth is simply better overall with better UI and filters. Seperating modloaders on Curseforge is a massive pain in the ass. Not on Modrinth.
Third Party downloads are such an easy and good way to download that it is simply unthinkable to use any other way. I want to be able to download my modpack and later edit mods or add new ones, not just download and play on a fixed instance that is hard to modify.
i hate to sound rude but could have possibly mentioned the new virus called "Fractureiser" or at least put it in the description so people know not to download mods for a while
I think it's already under control now so no need (Curseforge's words)
He did; he just didn't name it by name
Curseforge has nothing to do with it…. It’s an .jar virus so it can happen anywhere
Please take this video with a grain of salt, even the modrinth devs are critizising that some parts are incorrect/unfair
can you elaborate
@@distendedmist5840 look for ProspectorModrinth's comment in the comment section
@@distendedmist5840 Outdated information, and also the virus is not a fault of CF and they dealt with it
It's also got a very clickbait title; the video has absolutely nothing to do with its title.
@@Aphelia. You could have just linked the comment btw... I was interested in this, but I am not scrolling this ass long comment section to find this one comment you're talking about...
0:36 Amazing explanation 10/10
Frr
Some people and companies can be just so blindsided and greety.... it just saddens me to see that this is what the world is becoming...
One thing I'd be careful about, Modrinth's 100% ad revenue isn't how reality works.
Somehow the site needs to run and make money to support it. Seeing a 100% is often not trustworthy in the long term, it is too good to be true. It has the energy of someone trying to out compete so they can be the one screwing over others.
thank you, I’m new to Minecraft mods and this is really helpful
Wha
Yea, I’ve been aware of this too, hopefully this gets dealt with so I can download those mods
The methods used to do this were literally found by a mod developer SEVEN YEARS AGO
I recently started playing modded Minecraft for the first time, and I had no idea any of this was happening on Curseforge. Hopefully all my favorite mods find their way onto Modrinth.
Most of them are already there, and in any case, many launchers (such as Prism Launcher or Modrinth) let you download automatically from both sites.
Y'all dont know the struggle of pre curse forge minecraft modding
Its really weird because I did all the scans on that Curseforge support page and there was no malware even though I vividly remember downloading Better MC (FORGE) BM3 for a test and deleting it a couple days ago. Maybe it was before it got compromised. If that's so, then I dodged a bullet.
I had luck i only had better mc (forge) bm1
there were only 6000 downloads of the malware across the entire website
Glad that better mc got targeted since the modpack is mid and overrated
@@frankierodriguez866 I disagree but it's your opinion.
Apparently this virus laid dormant for a few weeks before getting discovered yesterday. I also can't explain why my Better MC isn't infested though.
As a Curseforge modpack developer the pay is crazy bad over, 130K downloads and 100$ in revenue....
As a mod developer with over 10 mil total downloads, that's a way better rate than I'm getting.
@@mcsmileycorp I know you. You developed LDoH and Dawncraft. I've spend hundreds of hours playing those, especially LDoH. Thank you for your hard work there!
modpack dev = slapping mods developed by others together and getting money for it, you should be fucking happy to get a hundred bucks for that
@@Bipbip2109 it's waaay more than that.
@@Swirluser1 mad noname
Modrinth seems like a really good platform to me. Been using it a lot recently
the ONLY reason i still use curseforge is the old mods that are essentially stuck there forever because theve been abandoned
As of right now modrinth launches minecraft with the same mods almost 3 times as faster, thank you for introducing me to modrinth
Still does nowadays. The same modpack (prominence 2) starts around 4.5x faster on modrinth than it does on curseforge.
This whole situation just really sucks for the players like myself, because everything has been on curseforge and modrinth will take a while to get up to the content level of curseforge, along with older mods and packs needing to be re-uploaded.
ye, I would prefer if everyone just stayed in one area so I don't need to hop around websites and launchers and shit just to play a fucking block game without getting bored.
@@ligma6992 The key takeaway here is that competition is good. Whether people want to stick with CF or try something new, the fact that there are viable options will always be better than putting your eggs all in one basket.
This is really sad to hear ... i am playing minecraft since 1.9 beta and was modding it with forge ... really sad, i really hope they will fix all their problems.
I’ve been using Modrinth almost since its beginning, and I love it
I’m only using CurseForge when there’s an exclusive mod on it
I have to use it for 1.12.2, because 1..12.2 versions of mods aren't on modrinth
One thing to note is downloading mods on modrinth is so much nicer because you get the download instantly, not 5 seconds
And everyone wondered why the KSP community REBELLED when the devs announced CurseForge as the official place to get mods.
NOW you see why we hated it.
No one should use curseforge for KSP mods. CKAN and Spacedock are objectively better.
4:15
LOL
they only encouraged players to move to Modrinth by removing it from CF, forcing them to go elsewhere.
This will definitely back fire
everyone should begin moving to prism launcher. It has its own built in mod downloader that u can choose mods from both modrinth and curseforge
Just realized how terrible of a cycle this is that I hope gets broken.
A Site becomes terrible, people leave to an upcoming competitor, that gets big and the game starts all over again.
It’s the natural tech cycle.
1. Be a pioneer.
2. Grow to monopolize the market first.
3. Pay off your debt.
3.1 Abuse of your monopoly position to extract as much money as possible of your userbase
4. Profit ?
5. Either you squeezed the lemon too much and die or people keep using the platform and you are now profitable and generating steady profits
Biggest reason why I am waiting till all mods are converted to modrinth.
Sodium has gone back to using CF, the notice is no longer on the page and their latest update was Feb 8 2024. Also none of this was Curseforge's doing its all Overwolf, no one wanted to use the CF app because it required Overwolf to run along side it and that app has a detrimental effect on peoples PC's so they launched a "stand alone" version that in fact just hid Overwolf from popping up and you can still see it running in the system tray.
correct, and ive been treating andthing overwolf made like malware.
Overwolf, the parent company of CurseForge, really is just becoming the next EA. They try to monopolize pretty much any community they see, any try to advertise slow-running, required software to boot, all for the user experience to be hurt and damage communities.
wdym "in danger" curse forge is bad yes, but modrinth is here to replace it
I have been using curseforge for years now just because "it was good enough". Even though I constantly was complaining how slow(more like clunky) and unresponsive it is, it did the job. I should clarify that I play on an older version(1.12.2), so some mod distributing services might not have mods for the version. Today I tried Modrinth and it is a blessing. So fast, responsive and the collection of mods isn't much less than CF's. Additionally, there's this stuff that was discussed in this video, so I think I will switch to Modrinth altogether
I believe in modrinth quilt supremacy.
CurseForge is forging curses at this point.
Reddit, Twitch, now I see this, feels like the Internet is on its way going to shit currently
It's cyclical, the current platforms die and new ones emerge in their ashes.
The Bedrock YT community is also in danger, but nobody talks about it
?
Java is the larger part of the youtube section of the game.
There are like 2 big bedrock youtubers in the community.
@@rexyjp1237 That doesn't really sound like danger, that just sounds like people making videos on the version they prefer
@@1unar_eclipse (I don't think they were responding to you)
@@GrantGryczan Ah
This is gonna cause another split first it was fabric and forage and now it’s curse forge and Modrith too……
Well, Modrinth is also more Fabric-heavy and encourages people to use Fabric, because it's more modern and most devs on there use it, while CurseForge literally has Forge in the name.
@@radstevee True hopefully it does cause a move to fabric though I wish all mod creators could get together and switch to fabric but I get that will never happen
@@radstevee fabric is heavily unstable
@@frankierodriguez866 me after spreading misinformation
@@baconiumo it really isn’t misinformation ive crashed a lot more with fabric than forge.
Modrinth is much better now than it was a year ago
Haven’t used curse forge since 2015, can’t remember when I started using modrinith but apparently I was supporting the good people.
I would totally go with Modrinth, the problem is that all the mods I want to play with are on...CurseForge. A lot of the mods I like are older or inactive mods like Railcraft aren't on Modrinth sadly, and in my opinion, that is the main reason why people were more reluctant to switch to Modrinth, until CurseForge got hacked. Now I'm hoping that more mods move to Modrinth so more people can access the mods they love.
@@NotRyken why not make a virus that spreads from actual proximity to other mods?
thank you for this video, i've been looking for months for a legit alternative to curseforge. Kudos to the Sodium authors for making the move to something new and hopefully better.
Tbh, Modrinth is better. When downloading, there's literally no 5 second countdown unlike CurseForge. Modrinth just straights up download your mod without any problems.
The law of marketing says: If there is no competition, there is no reason to keep quality
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain
I've only just found out with this video why the mods I use moved to Modrinth. Just whitelisted them on my AdBlocker because of it. After using the site its clear that its a million times better than Curseforge.
the only ad in modrinth is exaroton tbh
@@blrryfaceyes because they do not want to use the google Ad System and were unhappy with alternatives (lile ethical ads) they developed their own advertisement system Adrinth
bro has a adblocker lmfao.
@@robiagacitei5487 what's the issue with that? Why don't YOU have one?
@@Spatzleboy i know, but technically anyone could buy ads @ adrithn
Interesting video, but there is a flaw with the video that I think needs to be addressed.
You state at the end of your video that you do not want people to spread negativity regarding curseforge and instead spread positivity regarding the competition. However, if that is the goal, then your thumbnail directly goes against that by listing curseforge as evil. Yes, it is a attention grabbing thumbnail, but I'm sure there are ways to make good thumbnails without going against your own stated goal?
I have downloaded a few (very small amount, maybe 1 or 2) mods from curseforge recently. I feel like I have a virus now.
Modrinth goated, I'm not even being modernity blind, most people who still use curse (unless they need curse to get mods) and glaze it are just nostalgia blinded.
As someone who plays alot of modded games (mostly Skyrim) ive seen this kind of thing happen on the nexus website many times over the years (from both the platform itself and mod creators)
oh god nexusmods, basically the worst mod hoster in existence.
I never knew about these mods. My knowledge ended on Optifine some 6 yeas ago. Recently I tried playing again, but my old PC isn't good anymore. But there's hope :)
Yes, there is definetely hope. There have been many incredible optimization mods made recently (sodium, lithium, starlight, ferritecore, modernfix, to name a few) that greatly improve the games performance making it run with so much less resources
Sodium is utterly insane for optimization of modern versions, and if you want something to make older versions just a tinge better than they used to be, Ears, despite being primarily a Fabric mod that modifies skin rendering for extra features, also has Forge backports that let 1.9+ skins render in 1.8 and earlier. Both of these are entirely clientside, and don't effect gameplay outside of what the individual lone player sees, and thus could be used even on Vanilla servers without issue or tripping anticheat.
Quit using optifine. Its trash and not worth the download. Start using sodium with iris for example and youll see that even your old pc will hit enjoyable framerates.
Monrinth is quite literally a byproduct of the Minecraft GODS, It is as if Jesus himself were thy to be a Minecraft mod launcher. The epitome of the greatest beauty the human species has ever bestowed upon.
W Modrinth.
Happy to say majority of these problems have been resolved and sodium is back on curseforge incase anyone was wondering:))
(Curseforge still takes about 10% of ad revenue due to the use of subscription)
The FTB Team, who also did this with their API in conjuction with Curseforge, also protested Reddit doing the same thing and would ban anyone from their discord who called them out on it.
Gotta love subtitles: "Invasive advertisements!"
If I had money, I would get a gaming laptop and play Minecraft with shaders for the rest of my life😶🌫
This is why I miss the Minecraft Forums.
Back in the golden days, it was THE HUB for mods.
0:08 minecraft-inside is also pretty good (in my experience)
modrinth is so much better than curseforge
design , mods ,colors , easy to use , easy to install the mod , and choose ur version
Curseforge is merely a hosting platform for forge based mods and others, if it were taken down it would only mean having to manually install mods including the forge modloader like we did before Curseforge came on the scene
If you are looking for another curseforge alternative I suggest the technic launcher. They have been around since 2011 and have a great library of old school modpacks
Another reason why there will never be another golden era of well-developed modpacks, aka expert (1.7.10 - 1.12.2). The community continues to fragment. First it was the division between forge, fabric and then Quilt. Now this.
Division? More like competition. Forge is shit in terms of performance and it is a good thing we have Quilt and Fabric.
@@Lusc1nt good thing when they decide to fucking work! I'm here to play minecraft not debug code and figure out why your mod isn't working as it should!
@@ligma6992 you act as if things were not objectively worse before fabric and quilt came out. quilt came out due to the fabric owners being actively hateful towards specific groups of people. fabric was simply better than forge, and quilt has owners that are simply better people than fabric. the shake-ups needed to happen a long time ago, but its a good thing its happening now because things will actually start working when the developers of the modding platforms actually take interest in their playerbase.
forge is inherently built on janky shit and hard to work with, fabric is substantially better, and quilt is better than fabric in terms of the product and the developers. from a technical standpoint, the transition off of forge was the single greatest thing to happen to minecraft modding. you simply cannot reasonably do all the things the transition to fabric allowed on forge.
the depreciation of forge is inevitable. if minecraft continues to have a large modding community forge simply will cease to be a viable option for the general userbase in the next 5 years. there is little incentive to keep developing with forge unless you specifically want to play older minecraft versions, and the wealth of mods from newer versions only keeps growing. there was a LONG period before things made the jump from 1.12 but when they finally did they really picked up steam.
fairly soon larger mods will stop supporting both forge and fabric, a lot of good mods already dont support forge, and most of the random mods dont support forge. its only really the bigger mods that have a large playerbase that have a reason to include both but that reason is shrinking as the months pass.
@@TheShizzlemop I ain't reading allat
That's a funny range of versions for a so called golden age.
Minecraft Beta was the golden age of mods. Titans like Twilight Forest, Mo Creatures, Pistons, Industrial Craft, and so much more.
Thank you thank you for this important video! I needed to know this, this is just so bad! Its so hard to see creative people be free on stuff like this...
Yeah, but I like it when my game looks like a slideshow
Nostalgia from Xbox 360 Minecraft
It ran as a slideshow pretty much constantly
Thank God that Vintage Story's mod scene is hosted DIRECTLY on their own website, and is fully integrated into the game by design.
I'm not going to ever run the risk of destroying my PC trying to mod Minecraft. I don't even touch Minecraft anymore.