VKB T-Rudder MK.IV Unboxing and Initial Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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Rig specs:
Intel i9 12900K
ASUS PRIME Motherboard
32GB DDR 4 3600 RAM
2x 1TB M.2 NVME SSD
1TB SATA SSD
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GeForce RTX 3080
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VKB Gunfighter Mk.III with Kosmosima Right Premium and MCGU
VKB Gladiator NXT Left Premium (Omni)
Xbox Controller (for TEDAC)
Winwing Orion Throttle
Logitech PRO Pedals
Foxx Mounts x2
MonsterTech long mount
Love these rudder pedals. They are absolutely bomber. I swapped the spring to the stiffer slot and they are perfect for fixed wing.
I have also moved to the harder spring location!
Nice, just pulled the trigger on these. Can't wait for them to get here.
I always say good gear won't make you better, but it will allow you to be the best that you can be.
Yup absolutely, it removes roadblocks, sometimes those you didn't even realize were as bad as they are.
@@BurntPlaydoh twist was better than the Logitech pedals.
That said, I agree that pedals are easy better than twist for helos
Yeah baby! As promised, VKB rudders! Great idea to do a comparison flight with the Logitech unit. Gives us an idea of the level quality of the VKB unit, even if the comparison is to that of a crummy unit. Looking forward to the full review! Happy holidays.
The Logitech units are more comfortable than the cheap thrustmaster ones or the Ch pedals, but the quality of the other two may be better. . I have pictures of the interior of the Logitech pedals and I'll likely show them as comparison to the VKB. The VKB rudders are less than $100 more than the Logitech!
@@FalconsLedge Amazing how VKB has made their products so reasonably priced.
@@simcoe8157 I really do think thats their MO: bang for the buck, and honestly its what I recommend that everyone getting into combat sims go for. I have purchased many a cheap product in my life, and I always find myself disappointed wishing I had gone for more value for my dollars. So thats what I really try to do nowadays. Going even better is fine, but you'll pay for it!
Nice review. These are my favorite pedals. So elegant and precise :)!
Thank you for the review. I'm debating a set of these come tax return time.
thank you for the quality video, happy birthday!
Thank you!
happy birthday (even if it's late)
Personally I have the "cheap" thrusmaster pedal and I love that you can brake with them
Brakes really aren't a priority for me, especially since you only do it occasionally
Thank you, I didn't like the thrustmaster ones because they were very narrow and were very uncomfortable to use. The CH have the same problem. I had s pair of ch products pedals but they had problems where the axis would move suddenly without warning or input. Pretty bad problem to have.
Happy B-day and (as always): Nice job!
Logitechs/Saiteks are utter garbage IMHO and it seems they haven't changed one thing about them since they first introduced them under the Saitek name way back when. I have a very early set and what you describe about your more recent one sounds *exactly* like how I would describe the one I have. Imprecise, "ratchet-y", clunky and borderline unpleasant to use. As I've stated countless times: I tried them for a week or so, then went running back to my ancient, gameport CH Pros and never touched the Saiteks again after that.
Re the VKBs: At their price, they always seemed like a bit of a bargain to me, but I've never used them. Only reasons why I never considered them are that they were constantly sold out in the EU-store when I was shopping for pedals and, more importantly, their lack of toe-brakes.
Thank you! Ultimately at that price point I'd rather have a great set of all metal petals than less great ones with toe brakes. I'm mulling a toe brakes mod for them using 3D printed materials and a couple potentiometers
@@FalconsLedge Oh, absolutely... if you can live with the lack of toe brakes, getting these over plastic models is a bit of a no-brainer - even now that VKB have raised their price a bit over here in the EU-store, they're still not that much more expensive than those dreadful Saiteks/Logitechs. Used to be €199 plus shipping, now they're €215 - but the Logitechs are ~ €160 for a rather old design that wasn't very good even when it was new, so ...
And I suppose the logic behind their lack of toe brakes is the Russian approach to this sort of thing... meaning if you have a VKB MCG or any other grip with a brake-lever/brake-axis, you wouldn't really need toe brakes on your pedals. Personally, I just use that lever for other things and employ the toe-brakes on my Crosswinds. :)
Interesting idea about the toe-brake mod. I'm not sure I would know how to incorporate that mechanical feature on the VKB design, but I'm sure you'll come up with something.
Great video!! You need to say, "Let me know, in the comments, if I got that right." Drives up engagement stats. 😉😉
But that might be bad for my ego! Just kidding, great advise.
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I don't have the apache myself, is the heavy pixellation in the reflection on the eyeglasses' projection screen (bottom right of screen at 12:30) noticable in sim or is it something you tune out?
On a single screen that is very faint and in VR it's only in one eye and at the extremeties your vision is not acute, so it is not noticable. You can also remove it
These seem like a great choice for helicopters. I fly enough planes with toe brakes that they didn’t make sense for me, though. Good stuff!
At this price point I'd rather have great pedals with no toe brakes than sup par pedals with toe brakes
VKB software can emulate the toe brakes. So you can work around the lack of the proper brakes in these pedals.
@@BartAnt84 not really. It can do differential braking but not standard braking
@@FalconsLedge Yes, but as I've said. It just emulate the toe brakes. Still, in order to have as good quality and precision rudder pedals, as those VKBs, but with the proper brakes, you have to a lot more money. ATM I just can't justyfy upgrading them to something better.
@@BartAnt84 I'm in the same boat, but right now, I'd much rather have these then the alternative!
Hello.Can u compare them with the Thrustmaster TPR ?
These are hardly in the same category. The TPR is twice as expensive. They operate totally differently. It depends on what you want: of you want realistic movement and simulation of realistic pedal function, then the TPR is better.
If you want pedals that work best at a desk chair, that have incredible bang for for buck, then the T-Rudders are better.
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Nice job! Did you get them shipped to the U.S.? Did you order from the VKB website and how long did it take? I read that delivery times can be long..thanks.
Ordered from VKB site took about a week to get here.
@@FalconsLedge Oh, cool. It looks like there are a couple of VKB websites. One of them is Australia and is more expensive. The other I'm not sure which country but was cheaper, I think like $215.00 compared to like $390.00? Which did you do, and is one better for U.S deliveries?..thank you
@@Plydrms I only do the us store. It's always going to be best to just go with your local one
@@FalconsLedge Ok, I see that now, thank you, nice review.
What I don't like about any of the rudder pedal options, is that to me, they all seem too narrow.
These have a decent width. I hated the Ch products pedals and Thrustmaster cheap pedals because they are so narrow they are very uncomfortable. The Logitech were fine on with but they are garbage. The VKB are similar width to the Logitech.
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Thanks!
I own the MKIII version. I feel like, there is something that a lot of people don't understand about these pedals. And that is, they weren't made to simulate the helicopter. They were designed for the sim pilots, who use them under their desk and don't want them to move around ;)
IMO, the lack of toe brakes, is the consequence of that approach ;)
I never thought they were made for them, in fact the use of them under the desk (aka up and down movement instead of forward back) is definitely nice if you don't have a full cockpit and it's one of the reasons I bought it.