What Is The STRONGEST Class In GBA Fire Emblem?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2023
  • I used FE Builder to make a massive tournament to test which class in the gba fire emblem games is the best fighter. I will be using the information collected in this video in a new series on the channel soon, so keep your eyes peeled for that :)
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  • @BadAtFireEmblem
    @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +162

    I have no idea why this video has done so well, but thanks everyone for supporting the channel!
    I'm very new to this but I'm exciting to create a little community of gba fe lovers :)

    • @notZabami
      @notZabami 5 месяцев назад +13

      The thumbnail

    • @notZabami
      @notZabami 5 месяцев назад +9

      I would definitely click on that

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +10

      It took about 2 hours so I'm glad it was worth the extra effort 😅 cheers Zabami

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +4

      @@Ismael_Espinola well I'm happy it reached you :)

    • @CatsLilaSalem
      @CatsLilaSalem 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, RUclips does put some videos from smaller creators with low views into recommendations, which is an great way to discover the smaller creators

  • @carmonix1143
    @carmonix1143 5 месяцев назад +468

    I would love to see the same but with promoted classes

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +127

      a few people have said the same so I guess I'll have to do it at some point! :P

    • @mockinghyena960
      @mockinghyena960 5 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@BadAtFireEmblem Yesss please

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +21

      @@mockinghyena960 stay tuned I guess 😅

    • @iLegault
      @iLegault 5 месяцев назад +4

      Swordmaster/Berserker sweep

    • @darkjackl999
      @darkjackl999 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@iLegaultnah man assassin just gonna hit every silencer (trust)

  • @GODHAND42
    @GODHAND42 5 месяцев назад +240

    Next let’s see which class can most effectively dispatch villager children

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +40

      Now THIS is a video idea 🤣

    • @raymoo8504
      @raymoo8504 5 месяцев назад +53

      the answer is a giant poisonous spider

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +20

      @@raymoo8504 fe8 chapter 6 wants its gameplay mechanics back

    • @AzumarillConGafasBv
      @AzumarillConGafasBv 4 месяца назад

      That'll be amazing

    • @seams4186
      @seams4186 4 месяца назад

      ​@@raymoo8504that chapter is the worst thing that ever happened to me

  • @AllBeganwithBBS
    @AllBeganwithBBS 5 месяцев назад +112

    Gut feeling tells me at capped stats with promoted classes things would get quite interesting, but then we'd have to take weapon triangle into consideration every time which would be a chore. I respect the effort.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +21

      Thanks a lot, I'm gonna have to do it all again for a promoted class follow up video now 😅 yeah it'll be an interesting one, I have no idea how it'll work out

    • @rainingrotom
      @rainingrotom 5 месяцев назад +7

      giving all of the units capped stats messes up the results pretty bad since everyone gets so much def res and speed

    • @SageOfLegaia
      @SageOfLegaia 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@rainingrotom There would also be issues around Pierce, Great Shield, and Silencer skewing the results, but you could, I think, remove those using GBABuilder if you wanted it to just be based on stats alone.
      I don't think the +15% Crit that Swordmasters and Berserkers get would need to be removed, and the only other skill I can think of that might matter is Sure Shot on Snipers, which is probably fine to stay as well, since Snipers have a Skill cap of 30 and a Speed cap of 29.

    • @astracrits4633
      @astracrits4633 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@SageOfLegaia Alternatively, while it'd definitely be more time-consuming (and probably more annoying to make), you could do multiple rounds to hopefully reduce skew while still staying true to the intent of the class.

    • @FireBirdTheEpic
      @FireBirdTheEpic 4 месяца назад

      ​@@BadAtFireEmblemif I were to do this test with promoted classes, I'd give them all capped stats and when testing them I think I'd always give them the weapon triangle advantage where possible, since a player would presumably opt for the weapon triangle advantage in a scenario if given the choice (ie falcon knights can use lance and sword, so when testing against a berserker they would use a sword and testing against a swordmaster they would use a lance). This way it would also factor in the inherit benefits a class has when they arent locked to a single weapon type.

  • @crab6686
    @crab6686 5 месяцев назад +63

    General may do pretty well due to most classes haveing lowish strength growths, pavise having a 20% chance to prock, and mastery of the weapon triangle, though magic units would all most likely destroy them.
    Also (not meant as an insult) your content is great for starting of bot so long ago.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +7

      I'm gonna have to do a follow up with promoted units at some point I think!
      Thanks a lot crab, that's very kind of you to say ❤️ hopefully I'll see you in the comments in future!

    • @Tenhys
      @Tenhys 5 месяцев назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem
      Huh... which GBA standards you are going to follow, then ? If it's the Blazing Sword, Generals do not have access to swords but in Sacred Stones, they do ; same thing for Paladins but in reverse (if i recall.)

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      @@Tenhys I wasn't even planning on doing promoted units until so many people asked, so I'm not sure. since I'm running the testing on fe8 I'll probably use the classes as they are without changing anything? The results will just have to be taken with a pinch of sal when applying them to fe6 and 7, since they aren't really the same classes when the class skills come into play in fe8

    • @Ahappysandwich
      @Ahappysandwich 5 месяцев назад

      Can't you drink some item that significantly raises resistance?
      That's what I did in FE7 gave my general the shoes for +2 movement and the res potion.

    • @Tenhys
      @Tenhys 5 месяцев назад

      @@Ahappysandwich I don't think stat boosters can be counted upon ; only natural growth stats can be taken into account to give a fairer results. If you start tempering with items you falsify the results because it can drastically change an unit over an entire playthrough.
      For example, back when i played FE7, i used to select one unit that i decided in advance i would use all of my boosting items upon as to reinforce replayability. In one of said playthrough i selected Florina, the shy pegasus knight, to fill with every boosters available and she became a flying weapon of mass destruction. The same can be done with everyone else. So i assume that stats boosters are out of the question.

  • @mackowens7234
    @mackowens7234 5 месяцев назад +14

    Yooo lmao I love that you offered up a child as a sacrificial reward to him
    You get a sub for that

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +5

      Thanks, I appreciate the validation, child had it coming 😅

  • @jerry3115
    @jerry3115 5 месяцев назад +24

    definitely a neat little video, only thing I would suggest is perhaps running multiple trials of each matchup to deal with the rng variability a little, but from the sounds of it this already took a while to make and I wouldn't want to do that myself, and it looks like the results are pretty consistent anyway.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks man, appreciate that. Yeah it took ages even without repeats

  • @RatedB1
    @RatedB1 5 месяцев назад +7

    Axes performed much better than I was expecting

  • @ryanprjgamingchannel9437
    @ryanprjgamingchannel9437 5 месяцев назад +14

    The fact one of Archer Ws is against Wyvern Rider is actually an absolute win for them, because FE8's 3x weapon effectiveness. (if this was FE7 with 2x mt instead of 3x mt, they would be the lowest ranked class)

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +9

      Absolutely, big win for the shootyboi. Though he might have still beat the peg with double effectiveness, he won't that fight quite convincingly

  • @Era2Sunrise
    @Era2Sunrise 5 месяцев назад +6

    Interesting fire emblem videos always find their way into my recommendations.
    Looking forward to more interesting stuff 🎉

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +2

      GBA fire emblem is the gift that keeps on giving 😅
      Thanks man, hopefully I'll see you in the comments again

  • @thattimestampguy
    @thattimestampguy 5 месяцев назад +12

    1:42
    Last Place:
    Thief
    0-14 Record
    - he’s weak, does little damage
    2:10 2nd to Last:
    The Soldier
    2-14 Record
    Beat the Myrmidon and The Thief
    2:35 3rd to last: The Archer🏹 3-13
    2:58 Tie-11 Spot: Monk and Pegasus Knight
    3:48
    #10 The Armor Knight
    7-7 Record, sounds respectable
    - He needs to strike first or he loses
    4:08 Pirate and Brigand
    9-5 Record
    High Damage output
    Beaten by sword 🗡️ units
    + Beat the mage
    - Lost to the thief
    4:45 Fighter and Myrmidon
    10-4 record
    + Fighter defeats Cavalier
    5:13 The Top 5
    5. Cavalier
    11-3
    - Lost to the mage
    - Lost to the Armor Knight
    - Lost to the Wyvern
    5:35 Mercenary
    12-2 Record
    5:55 Mage and Shaman
    13-1 record
    6:39 Wyvern Rider 🥇
    15. Thief
    14. Soldier
    13. Archer
    11. Pegasus and Monk
    10. Armored Knight
    8. Pirate and Brigand
    6. Fighter and Myrmidon
    5. Cavalier
    4. Mercenary
    2. Mage and Shaman
    1. Wyvern Rider

    • @A_Person_64
      @A_Person_64 5 месяцев назад +1

      The archer's score being 3-13 is killing me

    • @dizzyheads
      @dizzyheads 5 месяцев назад +1

      Wow Wyvern knights always seem to be consistently great in FE games

    • @astracrits4633
      @astracrits4633 5 месяцев назад

      @@dizzyheads Well, "very tanky flying unit with decent con and lances" is kind of a concept that's hard to go wrong with. They're basically just Pegasus Knights without any of the weaknesses (save for gaining a weakness to dragonslaying weapons, but how often is the player *realistically* running into those?)

  • @ElectricLegend14
    @ElectricLegend14 5 месяцев назад +8

    Damn, that merc was so close to beating the armor knight...

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +5

      He tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it didn't even matter ...

    • @Jadanbr
      @Jadanbr 3 месяца назад

      ​@@BadAtFireEmblem nice linkin park reference right there

  • @yamatanoorochi3149
    @yamatanoorochi3149 5 месяцев назад +5

    Great to have a gba food chain now

  • @yvendous
    @yvendous 5 месяцев назад +2

    Very cool! I didn't know I needed this haha
    (P.S. Your audio is very quiet compared to the majority of videos out there. Pay attention to the audio level during your editing process and raise it to get close to 0db at the peaks of the audio. Other things like a good compression filter can help, easy to search up tips and tricks for better audio. No offense meant.)

  • @Scotts_GamingWorld
    @Scotts_GamingWorld 5 месяцев назад +3

    Never though to text out all the units! It's great to watch

  • @iNastyJerk
    @iNastyJerk 5 месяцев назад +4

    Very Informative, I don’t know where I will use this knowledge but glad I have it nonetheless 😅

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      I'll be using the info to make a future series, but apart from that I dont think it's useful in any way 😅

  • @KiwiiPuma
    @KiwiiPuma 5 месяцев назад

    This is interesting, you should do more consistent content like this one on GBA games, like weapons, characters exploit that.

  • @dragonray2850
    @dragonray2850 4 месяца назад

    I liked the idea behind it but will admit weapons themselves would change things up probably. Myrmidon I feel would kill more if they had a killing edge even if opponent had a killing weapon as well due to them naturally having higher crit then other classes (so should crit more often) but I do like the straight up stats version you posted. keep up the good work.

  • @SkyRaiders
    @SkyRaiders 2 месяца назад

    I want you to know I subscribed purely because the joke at the very end was too good. You monster! 🤣👍

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  2 месяца назад +1

      hopefully you enjoy your time here on the channel! :)

  • @min-min3160
    @min-min3160 5 месяцев назад +22

    Curious what this data will be used for, pretty cool regardless. Glad the Monk could prove its worth kinda (or ig the worth of 1-2 range magic but still lol)

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +6

      Watch this space haha
      The main worth is still promoting for C rank staves, but they're not 100% useless in combat 😅

    • @jonathann.5754
      @jonathann.5754 5 месяцев назад +2

      Now i wonder how the promoted classes stack up
      I'd like to think sniper does better than archer did against it's peers

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@jonathann.5754 I'm gonna have to do a follow up video 😅 I hope they would do better, love my archer bros!

  • @randaljr.8581
    @randaljr.8581 Месяц назад

    amazing! u should do this again, but with Everyone! including all of the promoted and special classes.

  • @datbreadman7125
    @datbreadman7125 5 месяцев назад

    Bro spent genuine effort. Respected and subbed

  • @iamthehobo
    @iamthehobo 5 месяцев назад +8

    Fun idea, subbed to see what you do in the future. Do classes with multiple weapons get both weapon types?

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +8

      Thanks so much hobo! (feels weird calling someone a hobo), hope to see you in the comments on future vids :)
      Cav was the only one with multiple ranks and they did have a sword and a lance in their inventory. If I do a sequel with promoted units then most of them would get multiple weapons too

    • @hajoeijgenraam295
      @hajoeijgenraam295 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@BadAtFireEmblem wait the cavalier is the only unpromoted class with several weapon types?

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@hajoeijgenraam295 unless I'm being dumb?

    • @JC_Stone
      @JC_Stone 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@BadAtFireEmblemAs far as I’m aware, in vanilla GBA FE yes. I don’t think there are any other unpromoted units who can use multiple weapon types aside from the Cavalier.

    • @hajoeijgenraam295
      @hajoeijgenraam295 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@JC_Stone cavalier just has it all I guess

  • @CEOofCunnySlurper
    @CEOofCunnySlurper 5 месяцев назад +2

    The civilian child sprite is so cute 🥰🤤

  • @mysterroniouscherry326
    @mysterroniouscherry326 4 месяца назад

    This is a treat video for us fans, thank youuu❤

  • @leargamma4912
    @leargamma4912 5 месяцев назад +6

    I would say that for base classes, your pegesus knight and cavalier are your best in GBA fire emblem. Not due to stats or weapon advantages. But due to 2 things that this video did not test as much: canto/movement.
    With canto (being able to move after certain actions with the rest of the units movement) and high move, these units can not only contribute to combat, but also preform utility and side objectives with rescue chains, visiting villages, and generally getting to different places on the map faster than other units. This is on top of variable combat and decent stats accross the board.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +5

      100% agree. This was purely a combat test, but movement is the best stat in the game, and that paired with canto is stupidly good. Obviously Wyverns still have those benefits alongside the great combat, but I'd definitely rate cav and peg very highly

  • @ZygonCannar
    @ZygonCannar 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don't even remember when the last Fire Emblem video I watched was and this was recommended to me. It was Kratos' Amelia only run though, so I guess maybe his viewers are getting this in their feed? lol

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      Well I'm happy it reached you :)
      I do enjoy Kratos videos, I only found him relatively recently but he's very good

  • @khan6690
    @khan6690 5 месяцев назад +15

    now this is content. I have a few questions:
    1. What are the stats? I'm assuming its the expected value at level 20 based off the base + level up percentages.
    2. Do you think crit chance should have played a role in this trial?
    3. Did the Archer lose to the thief?

    • @Not_Alanius
      @Not_Alanius 5 месяцев назад +2

      While I'm not the creator of the video (infact I'm very much watching this video as the 1st time I've heard of this specific creator), but I think I can answer these.
      1. We can assume the stats are rounded up to be somewhat close atleast to the average stats they should have at Lv. 20.
      2. The crit chance (with the footage displayed) is comically enough only relavant with Monks, due to them being the only ones with a base weapon with a crit rate, that allows them to even think of critting enemies.
      3. That was a guranteed L for the Thief, assuming the Archer had a hit rate.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +15

      Thank you very much for the glowing review 😅
      1. FE Builder has an auto level feature, so every unit was level 20 with the average stats they would have gotten after 19 level ups with the class' inherent growth rates.
      2. The monk, Merc and myrmidon were the only classes that really had any crit rate, and the critd they got in the testing only made them win harder, it didn't let them win any battles they would have otherwise lost .
      3. The thief did 0 damage to the archer, so he got stomped on

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +7

      3. Updated: sorry, I just realised why you asked. Yeah I think I messed up, it should be 4 wins. That's my bad 😅

    • @khan6690
      @khan6690 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@BadAtFireEmblem I'm surprised the thief does that little damage

    • @SageOfLegaia
      @SageOfLegaia 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@khan6690 The Thief class has a base strength of 3 and a 5% growth rate, so in this testing method he only has 4 Strength at level 20; with an Iron Sword, that means he only hits for 9 damage, so any class with 9 or more Defense takes 0 damage from him and he's guaranteed to lose. Doing a quick check through the video, most of the physical classes have 8 defense or more (Archers have 9), and the mages hover around 6 or 7, so he's generally doing 1-2 damage per hit, if he can even deal any damage at all.
      Shoutout to the Soldier class being the only one with only 5 Defense, graciously letting the Thief deal 4 damage to him before hitting back for 14.

  • @chy03001
    @chy03001 4 месяца назад

    Interesting video. Doesn't really mean much since it doesn't account for weapon options, promoted classes, class acquisition timing, or movement abilities, but still a fun watch :-) I think my top 3 classes that I always play are:
    1. Cavalier - Great mobility, controls weapon triangle, always one of your earliest units
    2. Thief - Opens doors and steals gear
    3. Shaman - amazing spell options

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  4 месяца назад +1

      Oh yeah, it's not meant to mean a lot, it's just for fun. And it only really covers raw combat ability. Cavalier is a fantastic class and you always have good options for Cavs even from the start of a campaign. Thieves are pure utility but no other class can do what they do, so they're invaluable. And shaman is the best magic class, with higher might magic, and access to Nosferatu and Luna

  • @thestaubmob6877
    @thestaubmob6877 Месяц назад

    My love for the Mercs and Mages sprites really paying off

  • @perr0263
    @perr0263 5 месяцев назад +6

    I never liked Wyvern Riders because I always saw them as very slow units, but my opinion changed in the last years

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +4

      Speed is the one thing they aren't amazing at, but they're still busted 😅 and the speed base isn't even that bad, it's still respectable. Friendly wyvern characters can almost always get to a point where they start doubling

  • @excylis3599
    @excylis3599 5 месяцев назад +5

    Didn't expect this channel to be so new after watching

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +3

      Yah I'm a newb 😅
      It's great to see so much support on the channel though!

  • @RestoSexual
    @RestoSexual 4 месяца назад

    Great video.

  • @RajamQED
    @RajamQED 5 месяцев назад +1

    Cool video; it would be interesting to do this same thing with FE7 (FE6 & FE8) main characters with their 20/20 average stats

    • @min-min3160
      @min-min3160 5 месяцев назад +1

      A tournament to prove who's the strongest* (*After 500 turns of grinding) in each game does sound pretty neat ngl

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +2

      I may or may not have planned to this is the future 👀

  • @Designated_loser
    @Designated_loser 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thieves may have come up short but honorable mention to chad in fe6 with his fatty growths and advantage against axe users

    • @Designated_loser
      @Designated_loser 5 месяцев назад

      If assassin was a promotion in that game it'd be joever for bern

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Designated_loser it always upset me that thieves don't promote in that game

  • @jaimereupert4247
    @jaimereupert4247 5 месяцев назад +2

    7:20-7:30 "won't somebody think of the children?!" 😂

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +2

      I thought of the children. I thought to involve them in the tournament 😅

    • @jaimereupert4247
      @jaimereupert4247 5 месяцев назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem 😂😥

  • @tuvillo
    @tuvillo 5 месяцев назад +1

    As other people have said I think spending some time on what your parameters were would've been great. Slightly changing your starting parameters can change a lot- Like what if everyone had Steel weapons instead? Etc, etc. Did you run every fight once? Because evasion seems pretty interesting as well.
    Wyvern winning seems obvious to me, I remember playing Fire Emblem By Web back in the day and Wyverns were unfair with their ridiculous bases.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      That's fair, I didn't want to have the start of video too bogged down but it could have a little clearer for sure.
      Yeah I only reach each fight one time to keep things simple, it already took me hours to do this simple testing, but there's scope for a lot of fine tuning with multiple tests, different weapons etc

  • @yamatanoorochi3149
    @yamatanoorochi3149 5 месяцев назад +1

    "Friendship and adventure" playing... Kickass Hector sprite... You there are a true man of culture
    All hail Marquess Ostia!!

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, Hector is ma boi!
      "culture" indeed

  • @fullmetal929
    @fullmetal929 3 месяца назад

    How did you do growth rates for stats? Because I have a lvl 15 colm in the playthrough I'm doing right now that has 11 str. I'm not sure how far outside of the norm that is, but 4 seems incredibly low

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  3 месяца назад

      It's the growth rates attached to the class which enemies use for calculating stats, not the person growth rates that a character like Colm had which override his class growths. It's all built into the game

    • @fullmetal929
      @fullmetal929 2 месяца назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem Oh, gotcha, that makes sense. I didn't realize there were growth rates attached to classes rather than characters. I'm a pretty casual player, tbh. Thanks for the answer!

  • @phillipjones2924
    @phillipjones2924 5 месяцев назад

    Idk if this is possible but I would love to see it: All final bosses in the series going at it

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      I may or may not have plans to do just this 👀

    • @phillipjones2924
      @phillipjones2924 5 месяцев назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem you've peaked my interest enough to subscribe

  • @bob4960
    @bob4960 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is a really cool concept. Question about the Archer - if Thief has 0 wins, and you said Archer (2:30) beat the Soldier/Peg/Wyvern, shouldn't Archer be at 4 wins since it defeated the Thief as well? From the thief section you showed, Thief can't even damage Archer, so Archer would have to win that encounter.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks :) yes I made a mistake, archer had 4 wins not 3!

    • @ryanprjgamingchannel9437
      @ryanprjgamingchannel9437 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, though the standings didn't get changed anyway, to be frank

  • @thevillagetroublemaker
    @thevillagetroublemaker 5 месяцев назад

    Sacred Stones video on Dec 2023? Man this is some great stuff!

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      It's the gift that keeps on giving

    • @thevillagetroublemaker
      @thevillagetroublemaker 5 месяцев назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem the last of sprite based Fire Emblem, man I miss those animations!

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      @@thevillagetroublemaker all of my content on this channel will be gba exclusively because they're the best game and the easiest to alter

    • @thevillagetroublemaker
      @thevillagetroublemaker 5 месяцев назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem based af, keeping the era alive🤝
      Here's hoping they somehow make a new one in the future lol

  • @milandeepak4895
    @milandeepak4895 5 месяцев назад

    Your video made me feel like playing fe sacred swords again

  • @fullmetal929
    @fullmetal929 3 месяца назад

    I know this is probably a colassal amount of work, but I'd be curious to see it with larger sample size with some sort of standardization for who attacks first. Like, each match up ran 50 times with each side attacking first 25 times or something.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  3 месяца назад

      Yeah that'd be more comprehensive, but I'll leave it for someone else to do that, it took a silly amount of time just to do it once 😅

  • @lestade682
    @lestade682 5 месяцев назад

    Promoted next, great video.

  • @aprinnyonbreak1290
    @aprinnyonbreak1290 5 месяцев назад +1

    They're a bit outside the norm for classes... but I assume manaketes are just built different from most units.
    Maybe also some of the other monster classes from FE8, since a lot of them have pretty high stats. Cyclopses, Gorgons, and Dracozombies especially, but I suspect Baels, the centaurs, and gargoyles might do decently as well.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah manaketes are kinda cracked 😅 I think monster classes are different enough to be kept separate from the main classes, but maybe they could a video if their own

  • @BoltTheEmolga
    @BoltTheEmolga 5 месяцев назад

    For next time, something I’d suggest is making the fights into pairs - one as a green unit and one as a red, then they switch. This is kinda based on chess bot battles, where to test who is actually better they each are given an opening to play once as each color, to account for the difference in going first.
    In this way, counting them as pairs, you’d have win-loss-draws, which could help significantly by helping to isolate the advantage of going first.
    I know you said that you did have each of them as red units and green units, but you counted the wins as red units, while this would be counting both, which may do something.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      That's a pretty solid suggestion. It might makes things more complicated but I'll see if I can take that on board, cheers :)

  • @johnnyfulton4755
    @johnnyfulton4755 5 месяцев назад

    It'd be interesting to have sort of online chess game based off of these classes.

  • @TheScribeScribe
    @TheScribeScribe 5 месяцев назад +1

    This just emphasizes the importance of positioning and movement options. The best defense is a good offense in these games.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Completely agree. In the actual game, movement is the best stat, and 1-2 range weapons is the best thing you can have for combat

  • @thunderknight4149
    @thunderknight4149 5 месяцев назад

    7:27 a delicious snack for the wyvern

  • @ninjaexperto7217
    @ninjaexperto7217 5 месяцев назад

    Im sorry to ask this here because it´s irrelevant to the video, but i couldn´t find it in any other place. Do you know how to change a character class when it appears in the middle of a chapter? I tried to change their classes with FE Builder but i couldn´t. I don´t know how to explain it, but in FE8 in chapter 2 join Moulder and Vanessa, and i want to change their classes but i have no idea where is the "script" that spawns them in your party, because they don´t appear in the middle (or at the start) of a chapter they aren´t on the chapter 2 events. Thanks a lot in advance!

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +2

      Hey ninja, I'm not very good with Fe builder beyond the basics but I've asked people that same question before and had it explained to me so I do know how to fix the issue.
      What happens is moulder and Vanessa actually join your party in between chapters, so changing their class in ch2 won't override what's already been coded for their joining event. If you scroll down the chapter list on the left side of febuilder until you get '38 Castle Frelia', it's just a blank map, but that's where the joining event is stored. So if you click on unit placer for chapter 38 then you'll be able to change their class and stuff 😊

    • @ninjaexperto7217
      @ninjaexperto7217 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@BadAtFireEmblem OMG thank you so much!

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +2

      you're welcome, if you haven't already then you should join the FEUniverse discord server, you can just ask any febuilder questions you have there and people are super helpful :)@@ninjaexperto7217

  • @enigmatic3194
    @enigmatic3194 Месяц назад

    Why did the wyvern rider not get doubled by the mage as a red unit? Are the stats random each round? I know I'm 4 months late, but still. That really bugs me. Wouldn't setting their stats to be the average (round up or round down, up to you) at lv 20 be much more fair?

  • @haruhisuzumiya6650
    @haruhisuzumiya6650 5 месяцев назад +4

    Wyvern riders are infamously hard to kill in FE 6 the Binding Blade
    Just ask mangs

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +3

      Fe6 Wyverns are indeed cracked.
      They slightly less dominant in 7 and 8 but they're still mad good

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 5 месяцев назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem while in the city level you are flanked by lots of wyvern riders mangs called it the "chapter from hell"

  • @CidAghast
    @CidAghast 5 месяцев назад +3

    This was pretty cool. Maybe do the promoted classes or fe8 next time

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      A lot of people seem to want the promoted classes testing so I guess I'm making a follow up video :P

  • @skatersirian
    @skatersirian 4 месяца назад

    That villager sacrifice at the end was so out of pocket. 😂

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  4 месяца назад

      You gotta give him a nice reward!
      The child might be getting their revenge in future though 👀

  • @RockPasta
    @RockPasta 4 месяца назад

    The answer to "what is the best unit" is always a wyvern. But its nice to have a ladder.

  • @jrguzzgg7294
    @jrguzzgg7294 5 месяцев назад

    You know, child sacrifice wasnt the first thing that came to mind when i first thought about strongest class in fire emblem GBA

  • @Trades46
    @Trades46 5 месяцев назад +1

    Reminded me why I hated Hector hard mode - infinite spawning red Wyverns at you.

  • @cedricdavis1670
    @cedricdavis1670 5 месяцев назад +1

    Would someone please think of the children 😢

  • @hagbardceline7118
    @hagbardceline7118 5 месяцев назад

    The best class is cavalier because the most important Stat is movement, moving again after doing non attack actions is huge as well. The arena doesn't really indicate the best class for the majority of the game. I just dump every non mounted unit that I can replace with a mounted unit at this point. Just paladins, flyers, troubadour, magic guys if needed or useful and lords. Balanced teams are for suckers

  • @renegaderaven3777
    @renegaderaven3777 5 месяцев назад +3

    Get bodied, kid. But yeah, kind of expected that. Wyvern riders are just some of the best classes in the game. If you ever do a promoted unit version of this I’m sure wyvern lord will also perform admirably.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      Kid deserved it :P
      Yeah I'll definitely do a preomoted sequel video, and I'm sure they'll do well in that too, but I feel like they might get the top spot taken from them?

  • @frog_muncher
    @frog_muncher 5 месяцев назад

    Actually, it would be really fun to simulate this in @RISK or a similar simulation tool.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Oh dear god, that's an insane idea! 🤣
      ....... maybe it's something I could do at some point 👀

  • @heiss9971
    @heiss9971 5 месяцев назад +3

    Subbed. Merlinus clears

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks heiss 😊
      Haha hell yes, merlinus best unit ❤️

  • @ShadowdaHedgie11
    @ShadowdaHedgie11 Месяц назад

    My prediction before watching: Mercenary.
    Edit: shit i forgot Wyvern Riders exist
    Not surprised that the thief ended up the lowest. Thief is more of a utility class and whenever there are enemy thieves, they're just there to steal stuff from the chests and will avoid combat when they can.
    Not surprised that the Pirate and the Brigand tied. They are so similar, and they even serve the same general purpose in the game, simply being a bandit class that destroys villages. The only different is that the Brigand can cross mountains, and the pirate can cross water.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  Месяц назад

      Yeah I feel like the rankings for the unprompted classes were fairly predictable

  • @CSDragon
    @CSDragon 5 месяцев назад +1

    wait how did the archer have 3 wins (Soldier, Pegasus, Wyvern)? What happened to thief?

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      ....
      Er...
      Ah, yeah. I think I effed up 🤣

    • @catman9222
      @catman9222 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thief out here literally stealing wins

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Thief's gotta do what a thief's gotta do!@@catman9222

  • @Ytinasniiable
    @Ytinasniiable 4 месяца назад

    It's interesting information But I feel like the data pool is far too small when considering RNG, eatch matchup should be at least the best of 7, to help with ensuring a win doesn't end up being fully decided by extreme RNG rolls
    Otherwise this could be used as a "target priority" guide to kind of give you a rough idea of which units are the biggest threat in any given chapter without taking any time to inspect their stats

  • @FeeshieBoi
    @FeeshieBoi 5 месяцев назад +1

    I assume you intentionally skipped the nomad class? You said you wanted to test the vanilla base classes in all the GBA games, but the nomad wasn't there.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +2

      I remembered nomad after the videos. They're not present in fe8 at all so I could have imprted their class into the game but didn't. Would have been interesting to see if they were much better than the archer

  • @michaelleue7594
    @michaelleue7594 5 месяцев назад

    You should extend this by turning it into an actual tournament format. You say it's too complicated for 1 video, but you could honestly make this into a ten-episode series and people would watch it just because people like tournaments.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Everyone loves a tournament arc
      Yeah it's something I might end up doing in the future :)

  • @indecentthinking
    @indecentthinking 4 месяца назад

    I knew mages would be top 5. Every single game theyre one of my best performing units just due to them usually having high damage and how they usually double most units. A tie for second place is more than i had anticipated though, which is nice.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  4 месяца назад

      They're very strong for combat, and the fact they can get staves on promotion just makes them even more used

  • @lsrrr3857
    @lsrrr3857 5 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe you should have tallied both going first and second together, and then have a win-draw-loss tally instead of just win

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Interesting idea. It's really hard to work out the best set up but that's a fair idea

  • @PoliTamer
    @PoliTamer 5 месяцев назад +1

    I said to myself before this video that Wyvern Riders are the best class in the game due to their good damage + high defense + high mobility, but I didn’t think that they would win in a strictly combat scenario. Nevermind I guess! What is balance anyways?

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      Balance is a lie, it never existed and it never will 😅

  • @zekdom
    @zekdom 5 месяцев назад +1

    Heh, I guessed it was Sage. I was close enough :;) But yeah, I forget how tanky Wyverns can be.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +2

      Wyverns are hella scary, they're terrifying 😅

    • @tylerryandaughtry
      @tylerryandaughtry 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@BadAtFireEmblemwhy do they get even a decent speed base in addition to ridiculous defense strength and hp to pair with great move and flying Like dang even in game a bunch of those guys around means you are playing very carefully

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@tylerryandaughtry I think when they made fe6 they wanted Wyverns to be a hella scary enemy class and didn't care if they were balanced 😅 they just wanted Bern to be strong, and who cares if they're OP

  • @DepressedMicaiahASMR
    @DepressedMicaiahASMR 5 месяцев назад

    Ephiram, because he takes castles and gives them back just for fun

  • @argolds
    @argolds 5 месяцев назад

    Once I made the strongest Rebecca ever. She was able to clean the battlefield by herself. Lucky RNG on level ups. She IK'd a General Boss near the end of the game, with 4 Crits and perfect dodges in one go.

  • @fe7general837
    @fe7general837 5 месяцев назад

    So now youre gonna do the promoted classes and add monsters to milk out content right?
    Right???

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      I may have a couple ideas along those lines 👀

    • @fe7general837
      @fe7general837 5 месяцев назад

      Erm, subscribed???

  • @Redkoinzell
    @Redkoinzell 5 месяцев назад

    like and subcribe for more content like this, i need to see this tipe of tournament with every class single class!

  • @marthsinclair3796
    @marthsinclair3796 5 месяцев назад

    If Pegasus Knight beat Monk then shouldn't that count as a tiebreaker for 11th?

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      You can think about it that way if you want to split hairs, yeah :)

  • @TwoHeadedMeerkat
    @TwoHeadedMeerkat 5 месяцев назад +1

    Would the Thief at least potentially get a win against a Priest?

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like a fairly even fight 😅

  • @emred4653
    @emred4653 2 месяца назад +1

    the ending lol

  • @dimitrivanderschaaf4233
    @dimitrivanderschaaf4233 5 месяцев назад

    With iron zword some of them are usless but nmr 4 deserves the win the fire emblem version back i remmember that raven was awsome

  • @Excellsion
    @Excellsion 5 месяцев назад

    7:10 Oh no! run child!

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      They can't outrun a flying unit with 7 move 😈

  • @john98765333
    @john98765333 5 месяцев назад +1

    2:34 Wouldn't archer have 4 wins? You said he beat both fliers, and the soldier, but he also bea tthe thief because the thief had 0 wins.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Yes I made a mistake, it should be 4 wins

  • @reubenbailey7491
    @reubenbailey7491 5 месяцев назад +3

    Placing my bets on hero
    Or I suppose if we are including archsage, then that.
    Okay, well that was quick, I did not think this was going to just be unpromoted classes.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      I think I'm going to have to do a follow up video for promoted classes now, which should be interesting, I feel a lot less confident in my ability to accurately predict the results for that one :P

    • @min-min3160
      @min-min3160 5 месяцев назад

      Could definitely see Hero being a solid contender in the promoted tournament.The FE6 ones at least can be rough.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      @@min-min3160 they're definitely a powerful class, but I feel like they might make the top 5 but not any higher? It's so hard to predict 😅

  • @raputha1148
    @raputha1148 5 месяцев назад +1

    Changing lances and swords on the cavalier but not giving the pegasus a slim lance to double, smh unfair

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Fair comment honestly, I did them dirty 😅 would be interesting to see how much of a difference the slim lance would make

  • @Smuggers.
    @Smuggers. 5 месяцев назад

    promoted units when?

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      I've got a couple videos in the works but I'll probably make it within the next month :)

  • @criscros95
    @criscros95 5 месяцев назад

    Promoted class!!

  • @iamr.o.b.therobot
    @iamr.o.b.therobot 4 месяца назад

    How has the archer 3 wins? Pegasus, Wyvern and Soldier were mentioned, but the thief has 0 wins and did 0 dmg, so surely the archer has to have 4 wins?

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  4 месяца назад

      Yeah it's 4 wins, I misrecorded the result

  • @velvetbutterfly
    @velvetbutterfly 5 месяцев назад +1

    Shouldn't Archer have 4 wins, not 3?
    Thief, Soldier, Pegasus, Wyvern?

    • @lsrrr3857
      @lsrrr3857 5 месяцев назад

      the wins only tallies the particular class going first.
      Thief lost everything going first, but manage lucky wins going second sometimes

    • @min-min3160
      @min-min3160 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@lsrrr3857 This is true for the Thief vs some of the Axefighters, but the Archer did beat the Thief (since the thief can't even do damage). So yeah, it would be 4 wins for the Archer.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      I did miscount for the archer, he did beat the thief as well so he should have 4 wins

  • @Exbeon
    @Exbeon 3 месяца назад

    Thief mains represent 🫱🏼‍🫲🏽🙌🏻

  • @user-pp5qg6ip5x
    @user-pp5qg6ip5x 5 месяцев назад

    hey you forgot the celric and athe dances i wood have like them to shou up but it dosent mater vbeocse thay cant atank

  • @datbreadman7125
    @datbreadman7125 5 месяцев назад

    Wait, then why did you use the monk class? Its not in fe6

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Well I learned something today! I haven't played much fe6 compared to 7 and 8, and I never realised they aren't in fe6 😅

    • @datbreadman7125
      @datbreadman7125 5 месяцев назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem yea, I was surprised to, light magic Is so underused in that game

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      @@datbreadman7125 light magic in general has a tough time, it just doesn't do much damage and monk class bases suck

    • @datbreadman7125
      @datbreadman7125 5 месяцев назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem thank God for slayer and fe8 Luna being garbage

  • @jakenbakery3540
    @jakenbakery3540 5 месяцев назад

    why not give the peg a slim lance? i'd think you'd outfit each unit with the best weapon for that uni as long as it's in rank. very cool breakdown nonetheless!

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      Cheers man, yeah I thought keeping everyone to iron weapons would be most fair, but it did screw over the peg a bit

  • @Sambrostar
    @Sambrostar 5 месяцев назад

    Didn't the wyvern rider lose to the archer? So wouldn't that mean that the Shaman, Mage and Wyvern Rider all tie for 1st place at 13 wins?

    • @magicsword49
      @magicsword49 5 месяцев назад +5

      He's only counting the win/loss when they're the red unit. Red archer beat green wyvern, but red wyvern beat everything.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      yeah exactly:)

  • @alexandersutherland798
    @alexandersutherland798 5 месяцев назад

    I would give it to cavalier and paladin classes being the strongest their kind of op classes and over ruling in the world GBA fire emblem. Cavaliers and Paladins have great speed, balance stats and mobility on their side. Even cavaliers base stats without any boost is pretty decent. But I do know cavaliers and paladins are not unbeatable. The perfect counter classes for the cavaliers and paladins. Probably would be knights and generals due to their high physical def stat and decent attack stat maybe their skill stats. But the major problems with knights and generals would be their lack of speed and mobility and a lot of other problems etc. Also not being properly developed a perfect counter for the cavaliers and paladins.🙂

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      Cavs are fantastic units, their movement and canto utility are super useful, and their weapon triangle usage gives them great combat utility as well

    • @alexandersutherland798
      @alexandersutherland798 5 месяцев назад

      @@BadAtFireEmblem Thx u! Do you think cavaliers and paladins are kind of op and over ruling in fire emblem GBA?

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@alexandersutherland798 yeah definitely. Wyverns are better but the games normally limit how many you get and only give you access later in the game, but Cavs are given out like candy in the early game and theyre better than practically every other option you have. I would say in the late game they're way less op, units like loeen and Franz do fall off eventually, but early game they're a bit too good

  • @trey9313
    @trey9313 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just from a damage standpoint, Assassin. Rng provides, you kill everything in one hit, regardless of what damage you'd normally do.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      ooh that's actually a really cool element, I hadn't thought of lethality. The sequel video with prepromotes is gonna be an interesting one

  • @jacksonhorrocks4281
    @jacksonhorrocks4281 3 месяца назад

    Thus we see why you sadly only get 1 wyvren rider :(

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  3 месяца назад

      Yeahhh, they're too op to let you have 4 of them :P

  • @hank2815
    @hank2815 5 месяцев назад

    2 speed and 5 defence at level 20, 6 constitution, and no promotion.
    You can see why rom hackers (like myself) treat soldier classes with such love. They deserve it after what they’ve been through.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah one of the first jobs for any hacker is to buff soldier bases and give them halberdier promotion

  • @quinnlee-miller9792
    @quinnlee-miller9792 5 месяцев назад

    Is anyone surprised at #1? Like, c'mon.

  • @peejae082004
    @peejae082004 5 месяцев назад

    If you included advanced classes, assassins rock as long as they crit lol

  • @milandeepak4895
    @milandeepak4895 5 месяцев назад

    Perhaps you could review all the fire emblem gba rom hacks.

    • @BadAtFireEmblem
      @BadAtFireEmblem  5 месяцев назад

      That's definitely something I'd like to do in the future, but probably not anytime soon