it's not that killer mike cannot be funny, he knows it's a time and place to be funny, and a time to get serious, and we as black people better start learning this !!!
I'm so glad Killer Mike said that in a lot of cases it was us as a community who encouraged policies like stop and frisk. If you came up in the 80s and 90s and had any kind of proximity to the hood you heard adults around you talking about that sort of thing and how cops needed to be harder on folks. People always want to act like that didn't happen in certain areas.
I love Killer Mike and Tara on the show it gives a great balance. Tara is like law is law and Killer Mike is like only when it applies to a certain group of people! We have to be accountable no excuses but it should be applied across the board. Lyrics vs literature.
alex jones just got a 1 billion dollar judgement from the parents of sandy hook, if I was a the relative of one of these rappers victims, i'd sue their record label and them, that's what they're really worried about , killer mike doesn't give a shit about rappers going to jail, he just doesn't want his overlords in the music industry to be held financially accountable
Killer Mike is making a "but" argument where I'd just say "and". Two things can be true: there is a practice of using artistic expression in a case where there is evidence AND it's practiced unequally. Don't get distracted.
FACTS. And I would add, it is the height of idealistic bafoonery to think that they are NOT going to use rap lyrics against Black artists who commit crimes and do it fairly. It is like, yall talmbout America right? U. S. OF A? I mean...come onnnnnn
That's the major problem with black Americans well now unfortunately America as a whole and that's nuanced conversation like you said two things can be true we use but too much in our conversation and that got me thinking I live in Miami so for the past 10 years I been cramping to learn Spanish they use pero = but minimally as for sino it's situational n American English we all the time but...but...but bbbbut
Dumb ass hell..talking out both sides his mouth how an community activist saying young thug and these gang bangers should be free to roam and hurt the same streets he so want to protect black ppl dont know whats good for themselves smh
@@skacymae6038 ooohh your cool mad cause I dont respect a stupid rapper trying to sound smart talking about black excellence sometimes then condoning nonsense at other times grow up
I can't believe we're trying to protect people that commit crimes and then tell on themselves. The easiest solution to this problem is to not rap about the crimes you commit. That's it. That's the answer. 😂
No, but that is too logical. You know these types of men don't use reason. The argument is literally to let a fool be a fool and face no consequences because others usually don't. It's all adolescent behavior and our job is to coddle them. Unbelievable!
@@EYE3_1979 if TRUE mobsters make them, yes! But, last time I checked, Stallone, DeNiro, etc ARE actors, not mobsters. You know, mobsters usually don't make songs and beautifully edited music videos of dirt they do or did at some point, do they? Rappers are soooooo incredibly dumb some times.
We gotta be accountable for our actions.... period. The content that's in our music matters, the frequency our music is tuned in matters. The days of "it's just entertainment", and "we're just trying to make a living" is over. Dr. Masaru Emoto has numerous videos where he reveals how thoughts, vibrations and words affect the molecular structure of water. Our bodies are made of 70% water. If you constantly listening to music with catchy hooks and violent lyrics, you are subconsciously programming your body. The same goes for movies, and books. We gotta do better.
Well stated. Unfortunately we have some black men, using their platforms acting as defenders of these detrimental lyrics, and others that just don’t get the easy to understand facts that you stated here ✌🏾
That sounds like it makes sense but I don't think it's that simple. If that were the case from the 50s to the 90s with all the love songs from doo wop to r&b pouring across the airwaves how do you explain all the broken homes, failed relationships, divorces etc.??? By your logic all that positive love music shouldve translated into real life and majority of our population back then should've had 2 parent NON CHEATING loving homes. We all know that wasn't the case though. That whole music frequency controlling the masses blah blah blah stuff is bogus. It's not that simple.
I love killer Mike and agree with most of his talking points but we have to be real about the situation at hand. If someone is detailing a crime with location, name, get away cars etc the police and the feds have every right to take them of the streets. I love rap like everyone else but we should demand more from our rappers. The people that’s getting harmed still has family on this earth and the last thing they want to hear about is someone detailing how they did it in a song.
saying you did something doesn't get you arrested for it. its gotta match some other evidence ie I shot lil joker on 12th street last October, if no one was killed on 12th street , it doesn't matter.
What's so hard to understand that SOME (not all) of these rappers are really committing crimes!! There's multiple pieces of real EVIDENCE that ties SOME of them to crimes (recorded calls, cell phone location data, camera footage, witnesses, DM/texts) They would get indicted with or without the lyrics. The music/self snitching Is just the icing on the cake.
@@benjamincrosby4350 correct. Our system doesn't work like that they arent getting arrested simply for words or playing a persona. The lyrics only matter when there's additional evidence tying them to said crime they made songs about.
Those guys aren’t in jail just because of their lyrics. I’m pretty sure there’s other evidence Used to prove the prosecution’s case. The lyrics almost likely one piece of a larger puzzle.
@@kungfu_kenny4135 they do..artist like JID Deaunte Hitchcock, Cordae, Earth Gang, Rapsody, Tobe Nwigwe, Ransom, coast contra, even YG...They just are not as visible for the masses.
Tara made the best argument. You have a right to free speech, you can say whatever you want, but we don’t have to encourage people to pass off ignorant messages as “the culture.” Plain and simple there’s other ways to create art.
To the point Mike made about the author of the book that ended up killing her husband, I wanted to know how she described the killing in the book and how she actually killed him. If she wrote about poisoning him and making him suffer for months in the book but actually shot and killed him in real life you can't use her book against her, the only reason they are using their lyrics against them is because the evidence matches their lyrics in their songs. I feel like this conversation should have been about what we should do as a community to stop these so called rappers from poisoning the young generation with their "lyrics". Defending and making them look like victims by bringing up first amendment rights and saying this could be you is a lot of BS.
None of them made any sense until Tara stated her points. The rest of them were talking straight foolishness. The 1st Amendment comes with consequences. And it SHOULD be that way.
yeah if matches an actual murder, yeah, and they have other evidence, its not like you can just confess any crime and the police "are like ok, let's arrest him for this murder" it has to match the physical evidence etc. police typically look for details only the person who did the crime would know, there have been countless crazy people confessing to stuff since the beginning of time.
I dont agree with Tara politically but I’m 100% in solidarity with what she said. These rap lyrics are getting out of control. We are so much better than this
@@kimberlynroberts7059 there are actually bodies on the street because of this beef it’s not just lyrics. To say free ysl when they have multiple murders on their hands is very strange to champion
@@rellfree6400 what happened to innocent until proven guilty? I'm not saying he did it or not but we have a legal system that has to play out. That's like holding a person for years until they plead out or the law figures it out, that in itself is against the law. Khalid Browder killed himself from situations like that.
"Rap Snitches, tellin' all they business/Sittin in the courtroom and be they own star witness/Do you see the perpetrator?/ Yea I'm right here!/ Fuck around and get the whole label sent up for years"
Y’all tripping!!! We need to stop these crazy murders and acts on the streets. If putting lyrics on trail to stop this generation of rappers then so be it because they ain’t going to listen to rappers that don’t make the money they are making especially when they ain’t listening to their parents. Let the judge babysit them all
We really need to stop. You can not rap about actual crimes and the cry when you get arrested. You can not kill someone the cry snitch when someone who saw you says something. We have to stop protecting the criminals and hold them accountable for what they are doing
I understand your prospective . But Freedom of speech . . . I don't listen to those artist and agree with much in that genre but we are in America . . .
@@Twixy-513 you can say whatever you want, its probably not a good idea to say you did a crime that then the police can go find you actually did through evidence.
This is disappointing that Killer Mike has this take. He’s intentionally omitted that there’s direct evidence and selectively using matters from that YSL case to conflate black rappers self-snitching as solely entertainment when some may possibly have committed crimes. It’s convenient for him to omit that there are CIs and proffers out on that case. Anyone with sense knows that if the government believes there’s a potential credible threat to society or danger to their case, they won’t jeopardize that by granting bail. Cmon
I think it was more to his point then that. I don't think he ever denied them of doing the crime he just said prove it some other way then my lyrics and until I'm found gulity they should be out of prison because he kept bringing up the other white ladie who talked about the crime she did and they wasnt allowed to use that against her.
@@RJDaSandman saying you did something on a rap lyric doesn't prove anything, you can say you killed twenty people last night, if the police go look and no one got shot, you don't go to jail for killing 20 people, but if you go "yeah I shot lil tyrone over by his mama's house " which these fools are doing, and they go look and in fact have a murder of tyrone at his mama's house then yeah they're going to start looking at you and investigating you as a suspect and building evidence on you, you can walk into the police station tomorrow and say you killed someone but if it doesn't match any physical crime scenes, they aren't going to charge you with shit.
Killer Mike needs to be careful what he defends. Actions have consequences, even in written form. Lyrics, articles, letters, text messages, etc. can be evidence of someone's criminal behavior if proven as such. It is exhausting hearing people using the 1st amendment to defend their foolishness. Ole school wisdom: Just because you can say something doesn't always mean you should!!!! I think he's wrong on this issue.
#sigh. It is not a constitutional right to commit a crime and speak about it publicly. Please have someone who understands the constitution on when Killer Mike is on. Freedom of Speech has nothing to do with being arrested because you publicly confessed to a crime. "Don't Snitch" is a HORRIBLE thing that we enforce in the black community and it allows children to stay molested.
these people's family these rappers rap about murdering should start suing their record labels, I bet you'll see positive rap lyrics in a month if that starts happening
This woman made the most sense. Killer mike and the other guy are defending the very same people who commit crimes and rap about it as bragging rights to our kids. This is why the black community never gets ahead, because we are always pandering to the worst things of the community and the culture.
I love Killer Mike, but I don't think anyone is taking away anyone's 1st Amendment rights... just using it against them if they choose to tell on themselves in a song.
Killer Mike is speaking irresponsibly. Dangerous immoral criminals with no regard for community agitated for more strict crime laws based on their recklessness. And no-snitching only benefits those same criminals. No one is 'working it out' for the better. While waiting for that to happen, mayhem continues.
I love Killer Mike. But I have to completely disagree with him here. We can not allow these dudes to commit actual crimes but then go out here and spit a hot 16 about it and say those words should not be used against them. This isnt about snitching. And this is not about a constitutional right.
SMH, they act like the Feds just 🎶 to the songs and saying o get em he said he murder someone. Clearly they have been doing some investigating on these rappers. Especially this new Generation, so no they not just listening to a song and building the case off a song. U have to have proof and if these rappers are putting details of criminal active that they or a crew member did in a song and the lyrics match the crimes, then hell yea locked they ass up
I wonder how they will feel if the victim is their relative and some guy is talking about the crime. The police leave out critical details about a crime and whoever is STUPID enough to rap about those details should definitely be brought up on charges
Stop with the BS excuses for murder lyrics . We know that music and moods go together… one influences the other. This has obviously led to negative actions. It’s at a crises level bruh, but here we are talking about constitutional rights.? Btw, not all speech is protected, however the system will definitely support your right to make all the Murder lyrics you want, that is until it really reaches their community!
Mike is trying to minimize what she is saying but he is contributing to the problem in this instance. He is trying to walk on 2 sides of a fence. Either you are for the community or against in regards to having progress
Killer Mike is wrong af. If you say in your song “I killed XYZ with certain gun and certain area”, and the body is where you said it was, bullet shells match the gun you spoke of and you even named the person, your suspect number 1. You can’t have it both ways. Other dude was right, the first amendment protects you from going to jail but it doesn’t protect you from being held accountable, if your lyrics matches the description of the crime. Gavin Newsom is pandering to win his seat again as mayor so he’s turning California into a lawless state where rappers get killed and the killers are set free the next day.
Cali did a thing for the historically violent Cartel music segment. These bands are performing music glorifying the business business aspect of an organization for profit, may include some exceptional activities. Sometimes or all the time, these musicians meet their end by the group they sang for. So I have been told about these unique musicians and their dedication to their craft.
and stagger lee isn't a real person, its like saying someone wrote a book about a murder that's fiction then saying its the same as OJ's "if did it book"
I like a lot of what Mike says about keeping with the constitution. I think Mike is one of the biggest champions for African Americans in todays society. I with he would approach the situation with Young thug and them with a little more of a common sense approach. Sure, you found the story about the white lady that wrote the article in the paper which is contradictory to what young thug and them are experiencing, but they did damage( allegedly) to the community that he so actively tried to champion. I get it. You from Atlanta too and they are legit gangsters but this is when the rubber meets the road. It’s when it’s difficult that we do the right thing. Much love.
If Stragalee murdered someone, he should be in prison. If he just wrote a song about it, he should not. Killer Mike's perspective is part (not all, but some) of why people think that black people have a predilection toward crime. It's not true. If someone committed a crime, we think they should be punished. The problem is that our people are over punished for crimes and assumed to be guilty when we are not guilty. This is different from actually committing a crime. That's not cool.
We’re congratulating Newsom on making it harder to crack down on gang violence when we just lost another rapper to what class? That’s right, gang violence. FOH. We’re lost.
Killer Mike really don’t know how to not be funny! He just casually gives you history lessons while doing stand up. That man is goated 🙏🏾✊🏾
I agree.
he had me rolling 😂
He a damn fool. These killers who are rappers.
it's not that killer mike cannot be funny, he knows it's a time and place to be funny, and a time to get serious, and we as black people better start learning this !!!
When u have the mic, be proud of what u say!
I'm so glad Killer Mike said that in a lot of cases it was us as a community who encouraged policies like stop and frisk. If you came up in the 80s and 90s and had any kind of proximity to the hood you heard adults around you talking about that sort of thing and how cops needed to be harder on folks. People always want to act like that didn't happen in certain areas.
I believe there are literature and journals that touches on that, which starts back in the seventies, one book "Locking Up Our Own" talks about that.
I love Killer Mike and Tara on the show it gives a great balance. Tara is like law is law and Killer Mike is like only when it applies to a certain group of people! We have to be accountable no excuses but it should be applied across the board. Lyrics vs literature.
alex jones just got a 1 billion dollar judgement from the parents of sandy hook, if I was a the relative of one of these rappers victims, i'd sue their record label and them, that's what they're really worried about , killer mike doesn't give a shit about rappers going to jail, he just doesn't want his overlords in the music industry to be held financially accountable
Tara brings legal facts. Killer mike brings great Rhetoric
Killer Mike is making a "but" argument where I'd just say "and". Two things can be true: there is a practice of using artistic expression in a case where there is evidence AND it's practiced unequally. Don't get distracted.
FACTS. And I would add, it is the height of idealistic bafoonery to think that they are NOT going to use rap lyrics against Black artists who commit crimes and do it fairly. It is like, yall talmbout America right? U. S. OF A? I mean...come onnnnnn
How can two things be true? Something either is or isn't...There is only one truth.
@@hellyoutalmbout8742 give you an example, he was great father but a horrible husband....to this group he's amazing, to this group he's terrible
That's the major problem with black Americans well now unfortunately America as a whole and that's nuanced conversation like you said two things can be true we use but too much in our conversation and that got me thinking I live in Miami so for the past 10 years I been cramping to learn Spanish they use pero = but minimally as for sino it's situational n American English we all the time but...but...but bbbbut
@@hellyoutalmbout8742 🤦🏾♂️ Damn they need to make classical philosophy an elective in High School
The mental gymnastics you have to do to defend it let's you know it's not for mass consumption.
Facts
Killer Mike is a different breed!
Absolutely agree
A Brilliant man.
Dumb ass hell..talking out both sides his mouth how an community activist saying young thug and these gang bangers should be free to roam and hurt the same streets he so want to protect black ppl dont know whats good for themselves smh
@@TruckinRoundTv you want attention? Need a hug? A bridge to jump off of? Asking for a friend!
@@skacymae6038 ooohh your cool mad cause I dont respect a stupid rapper trying to sound smart talking about black excellence sometimes then condoning nonsense at other times grow up
Best clip of this show so far. Educated guest, good debate/conversation, and CTG not reading jokes off a teleprompter
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I can't believe we're trying to protect people that commit crimes and then tell on themselves. The easiest solution to this problem is to not rap about the crimes you commit. That's it. That's the answer. 😂
Or you know... *don't commit the crime* ? Maybe *that's* the answer..
are we gonna take the same stance on mob movies?
No, but that is too logical. You know these types of men don't use reason. The argument is literally to let a fool be a fool and face no consequences because others usually don't. It's all adolescent behavior and our job is to coddle them. Unbelievable!
@@EYE3_1979 if TRUE mobsters make them, yes! But, last time I checked, Stallone, DeNiro, etc ARE actors, not mobsters. You know, mobsters usually don't make songs and beautifully edited music videos of dirt they do or did at some point, do they? Rappers are soooooo incredibly dumb some times.
@@Nedra812 those guys all have real ties to the mob
Killer Mike doing what he does with a mic & camera. That work. 💪🏾
We gotta be accountable for our actions.... period. The content that's in our music matters, the frequency our music is tuned in matters.
The days of "it's just entertainment", and "we're just trying to make a living" is over.
Dr. Masaru Emoto has numerous videos where he reveals how thoughts, vibrations and words affect the molecular structure of water.
Our bodies are made of 70% water. If you constantly listening to music with catchy hooks and violent lyrics, you are subconsciously programming your body. The same goes for movies, and books.
We gotta do better.
Well stated. Unfortunately we have some black men, using their platforms acting as defenders of these detrimental lyrics, and others that just don’t get the easy to understand facts that you stated here ✌🏾
That sounds like it makes sense but I don't think it's that simple. If that were the case from the 50s to the 90s with all the love songs from doo wop to r&b pouring across the airwaves how do you explain all the broken homes, failed relationships, divorces etc.??? By your logic all that positive love music shouldve translated into real life and majority of our population back then should've had 2 parent NON CHEATING loving homes. We all know that wasn't the case though.
That whole music frequency controlling the masses blah blah blah stuff is bogus. It's not that simple.
I love killer Mike and agree with most of his talking points but we have to be real about the situation at hand. If someone is detailing a crime with location, name, get away cars etc the police and the feds have every right to take them of the streets. I love rap like everyone else but we should demand more from our rappers. The people that’s getting harmed still has family on this earth and the last thing they want to hear about is someone detailing how they did it in a song.
saying you did something doesn't get you arrested for it. its gotta match some other evidence ie I shot lil joker on 12th street last October, if no one was killed on 12th street , it doesn't matter.
What's so hard to understand that SOME (not all) of these rappers are really committing crimes!! There's multiple pieces of real EVIDENCE that ties SOME of them to crimes (recorded calls, cell phone location data, camera footage, witnesses, DM/texts) They would get indicted with or without the lyrics. The music/self snitching Is just the icing on the cake.
Exactly!!! It shouldn’t even be an argument.
There's no rapper that has ever committed a crime if they needed to use his lyrics to help prove it.
@@benjamincrosby4350 correct. Our system doesn't work like that they arent getting arrested simply for words or playing a persona. The lyrics only matter when there's additional evidence tying them to said crime they made songs about.
seriously they're basically having a whole debate about a couple of rappers that made themselves look very stupid
@@datgal9663 I mean our system litterally doesnt work. Hunter Biden still free
Didn’t know how much I needed this show! Well done CTG!
Mike giving anecdotal responses excusing irresponsible behavior.
Awww u want people to think ur smart cause u were able to articulate what you observed Mike doing 🤣😂
@@macaronitony91 So we agree... 😂
Those guys aren’t in jail just because of their lyrics. I’m pretty sure there’s other evidence Used to prove the prosecution’s case. The lyrics almost likely one piece of a larger puzzle.
Ppl act like the lyrics are THE puzzle. That's just an addendum to the evidence they already have
They always forget about the victims behind the lyrics.
“Killer” Mike
Lyrics didn’t make them victims, the crimes did
They don't care about them
I can always count on Killer Mike to give excellent dialogue.
It’s self snitching if your lyrics can be tied to an actual crime.
It’s so uncomfortable when someone is trying to talk, but everyone keeps ignoring and talking over them.
Men. Amiright?!
the reason I love 90s hip hop is bc theyalso spoke about the consequences of the street life. The music was well rounded
The great rappers of this generation do the same thing.
Kendrick and J. Cole are shining examples.
@@kungfu_kenny4135 they do..artist like JID Deaunte Hitchcock, Cordae, Earth Gang, Rapsody, Tobe Nwigwe, Ransom, coast contra, even YG...They just are not as visible for the masses.
He explains how his momma taught him not to snitch while snitching on his momma 😂
tbf....its already public info
Tara made the best argument. You have a right to free speech, you can say whatever you want, but we don’t have to encourage people to pass off ignorant messages as “the culture.” Plain and simple there’s other ways to create art.
To the point Mike made about the author of the book that ended up killing her husband, I wanted to know how she described the killing in the book and how she actually killed him. If she wrote about poisoning him and making him suffer for months in the book but actually shot and killed him in real life you can't use her book against her, the only reason they are using their lyrics against them is because the evidence matches their lyrics in their songs.
I feel like this conversation should have been about what we should do as a community to stop these so called rappers from poisoning the young generation with their "lyrics". Defending and making them look like victims by bringing up first amendment rights and saying this could be you is a lot of BS.
Killer Mike is in a conflict - talking about helping people and defending the crazy shit said in rap music - the woman is making sense
I'm glad y'all uploaded the longer version
Thanks for watching!
That sister makes too much sense for this show.
If Killer Mike's on your show, he becomes the host. Ol' girl from Jersey trying to get Latifah comparisons.
She has some similarity ..
I could listen to Killer Mike all day! Endless gems!
Not really
None of them made any sense until Tara stated her points. The rest of them were talking straight foolishness. The 1st Amendment comes with consequences. And it SHOULD be that way.
Change ur name to Ho Ho Ho cause that's what you sound like
@@macaronitony91 You should change your name to Ha Ha Ha. That way, when you try to be funny you’ll have at least one laugh.
Once again for the people in the back anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law been that way forever
yeah if matches an actual murder, yeah, and they have other evidence, its not like you can just confess any crime and the police "are like ok, let's arrest him for this murder" it has to match the physical evidence etc. police typically look for details only the person who did the crime would know, there have been countless crazy people confessing to stuff since the beginning of time.
That's talking to the police. Rap lyrics fall under the 1st amendment.
@@kimberlynroberts7059 no it doesn't, you are ignorant of the law.
I dont agree with Tara politically but I’m 100% in solidarity with what she said. These rap lyrics are getting out of control. We are so much better than this
I wrote my last comment before I wrote #TaraSetmayer. Thank you for her on this panel.
I love Killer Mike 😂🤣😂
Killer mike lack of accountability is alarming
Welcome to the black community
Not a lack of accountability yet a keeping our Constitutional rights intact. Freedom of speech.
@@kimberlynroberts7059 there are actually bodies on the street because of this beef it’s not just lyrics. To say free ysl when they have multiple murders on their hands is very strange to champion
@@rellfree6400 what happened to innocent until proven guilty? I'm not saying he did it or not but we have a legal system that has to play out. That's like holding a person for years until they plead out or the law figures it out, that in itself is against the law. Khalid Browder killed himself from situations like that.
@@rellfree6400 there were bodies on the street from east coast west coast beef, did courts decide to lock up Biggie and Pac? No.
"Rap Snitches, tellin' all they business/Sittin in the courtroom and be they own star witness/Do you see the perpetrator?/ Yea I'm right here!/ Fuck around and get the whole label sent up for years"
Y’all tripping!!! We need to stop these crazy murders and acts on the streets. If putting lyrics on trail to stop this generation of rappers then so be it because they ain’t going to listen to rappers that don’t make the money they are making especially when they ain’t listening to their parents. Let the judge babysit them all
Killer mike has a point but he is also wrong. These rappers are actually doing the crimes.
I have heard a lot of whi music talk about all the drugs they did and even sold. where are their indictments.
True. But what he also says is that their rap lyrics cannot be used to convict them.
We really need to stop. You can not rap about actual crimes and the cry when you get arrested. You can not kill someone the cry snitch when someone who saw you says something. We have to stop protecting the criminals and hold them accountable for what they are doing
Big facts bruh
I understand your prospective
. But Freedom of speech . . . I don't listen to those artist and agree with much in that genre but we are in America . . .
That has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
@@Twixy-513 you can say whatever you want, its probably not a good idea to say you did a crime that then the police can go find you actually did through evidence.
This is disappointing that Killer Mike has this take. He’s intentionally omitted that there’s direct evidence and selectively using matters from that YSL case to conflate black rappers self-snitching as solely entertainment when some may possibly have committed crimes.
It’s convenient for him to omit that there are CIs and proffers out on that case. Anyone with sense knows that if the government believes there’s a potential credible threat to society or danger to their case, they won’t jeopardize that by granting bail. Cmon
Exactly! This right here is the bigger problem in our community. Lack of accountability!
Totally hypocrisy. They are in jail because of being terrorists to the community. And if they were out they probably murder witnesses.
I think it was more to his point then that. I don't think he ever denied them of doing the crime he just said prove it some other way then my lyrics and until I'm found gulity they should be out of prison because he kept bringing up the other white ladie who talked about the crime she did and they wasnt allowed to use that against her.
So you saying a nicca named “Killer” Mike is taking up for another nicca named Young “Thug”? Who woulda thought?
@@RJDaSandman saying you did something on a rap lyric doesn't prove anything, you can say you killed twenty people last night, if the police go look and no one got shot, you don't go to jail for killing 20 people, but if you go "yeah I shot lil tyrone over by his mama's house " which these fools are doing, and they go look and in fact have a murder of tyrone at his mama's house then yeah they're going to start looking at you and investigating you as a suspect and building evidence on you, you can walk into the police station tomorrow and say you killed someone but if it doesn't match any physical crime scenes, they aren't going to charge you with shit.
The like is for Mike bringing history, clarity, and class/power analysis, to the issue.
Killer Mike needs to be careful what he defends. Actions have consequences, even in written form. Lyrics, articles, letters, text messages, etc. can be evidence of someone's criminal behavior if proven as such. It is exhausting hearing people using the 1st amendment to defend their foolishness. Ole school wisdom: Just because you can say something doesn't always mean you should!!!! I think he's wrong on this issue.
That lady is right!! Lyrics and responsibility!
The lady wasn’t listened to. Why have her there if she doesn’t get heard?
#sigh. It is not a constitutional right to commit a crime and speak about it publicly. Please have someone who understands the constitution on when Killer Mike is on. Freedom of Speech has nothing to do with being arrested because you publicly confessed to a crime. "Don't Snitch" is a HORRIBLE thing that we enforce in the black community and it allows children to stay molested.
these people's family these rappers rap about murdering should start suing their record labels, I bet you'll see positive rap lyrics in a month if that starts happening
Good conversation is all I can say.
Lawwwd I love me some Killer Mike!! 👏😊💯
So the ppl that was the cause of murder and crime doubling in the city should be released. SMH
wow...killer mike is incredibly effective. Great communicator
Thank you Mike!!! Iykyfk
Mike's one example doesn't contradict her point. Louder doesn't mean correct.
Great discussion and panel
Killer Mike holding that grin when she said "I don't know what's going on today" wanting to say I actively make lyrical music today. Lol
This is such an amazing show. I gotta go get this on Paramount Plus! Great job 👏
Not really much else or that at tho.
This was a great dialogue between differing opinions. The woman held her own! We need more of this.
This woman made the most sense. Killer mike and the other guy are defending the very same people who commit crimes and rap about it as bragging rights to our kids. This is why the black community never gets ahead, because we are always pandering to the worst things of the community and the culture.
Ahhh love me some killer Mike on a panel, dude will stand by his shit
I love Killer Mike, but I don't think anyone is taking away anyone's 1st Amendment rights... just using it against them if they choose to tell on themselves in a song.
Killer Mike is speaking irresponsibly. Dangerous immoral criminals with no regard for community agitated for more strict crime laws based on their recklessness. And no-snitching only benefits those same criminals. No one is 'working it out' for the better. While waiting for that to happen, mayhem continues.
Exactly he's another articulate bullshit artist.
I love Killer Mike. But I have to completely disagree with him here.
We can not allow these dudes to commit actual crimes but then go out here and spit a hot 16 about it and say those words should not be used against them. This isnt about snitching. And this is not about a constitutional right.
North Charleston, South Carolina checking in! Big ups Killa Mike!
Shout-out killer mike. & I'm glad Charlemagne is on Comedy Central didn't know I needed this show
this was a great panel, of people
great debate, really enjoyed it
you'd love next week's episode
killer mike is awesome listening to his ideas and thought process is awesome
i dont wanna see killer mike on tv, he needs to be somewhere mailing my greenwood bank card, smh 1 year and i still aint got it
Momma KM is on the RUclipss.
Can you pop some popcorn real quick?
This show is unexpectedly good AF.
I could listen to Killer Mike speak all day. And Yes I remember the song Stagger Lee, used to dance to it in Jr. High school.
I wrote this song a long time ago
A real long time ago, feel me!
I wrote this song a long time ago
It was the dopest song I ever wrote... in '94
Underrated comment lol
This is way better than that other sbit charla your naturally funny u dont need no jokes off the teleprompter brotha
Our community never cares about the victim.
SMH, they act like the Feds just 🎶 to the songs and saying o get em he said he murder someone. Clearly they have been doing some investigating on these rappers. Especially this new Generation, so no they not just listening to a song and building the case off a song. U have to have proof and if these rappers are putting details of criminal active that they or a crew member did in a song and the lyrics match the crimes, then hell yea locked they ass up
I wonder how they will feel if the victim is their relative and some guy is talking about the crime. The police leave out critical details about a crime and whoever is STUPID enough to rap about those details should definitely be brought up on charges
You guys wild. Too funny!!
Stop with the BS excuses for murder lyrics . We know that music and moods go together… one influences the other. This has obviously led to negative actions.
It’s at a crises level bruh, but here we are talking about constitutional rights.? Btw, not all speech is protected, however the system will definitely support your right to make all the Murder lyrics you want, that is until it really reaches their community!
what music do you think Hitler was listening to lol boy y'all dumb as hell violence has always existed IN ABUNDANCE
Mike is trying to minimize what she is saying but he is contributing to the problem in this instance. He is trying to walk on 2 sides of a fence. Either you are for the community or against in regards to having progress
My brother killer Mike seem like the only person with some sense that I can relate to on that panel
Yeah that's because you have a ignorant mindset
Killer Mike for president
Love to these these panel of intellects.
Gotta go with killer Mike on this 1
This message on Comedy Central....... I see what they doin!!
This was an awesome segment to watch! Thank you!! And I forgot to add Charlemagne, your skin is flawless. 😉
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 great episode ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
Thanks for tuning in
Killer Mike is wrong af. If you say in your song “I killed XYZ with certain gun and certain area”, and the body is where you said it was, bullet shells match the gun you spoke of and you even named the person, your suspect number 1. You can’t have it both ways. Other dude was right, the first amendment protects you from going to jail but it doesn’t protect you from being held accountable, if your lyrics matches the description of the crime. Gavin Newsom is pandering to win his seat again as mayor so he’s turning California into a lawless state where rappers get killed and the killers are set free the next day.
Cali did a thing for the historically violent Cartel music segment. These bands are performing music glorifying the business business aspect of an organization for profit, may include some exceptional activities. Sometimes or all the time, these musicians meet their end by the group they sang for. So I have been told about these unique musicians and their dedication to their craft.
Killer Mike just lied stagger Lee is about a man killing another man because he took Stagger Lee’s girl
and stagger lee isn't a real person, its like saying someone wrote a book about a murder that's fiction then saying its the same as OJ's "if did it book"
I like a lot of what Mike says about keeping with the constitution. I think Mike is one of the biggest champions for African Americans in todays society. I with he would approach the situation with Young thug and them with a little more of a common sense approach. Sure, you found the story about the white lady that wrote the article in the paper which is contradictory to what young thug and them are experiencing, but they did damage( allegedly) to the community that he so actively tried to champion. I get it. You from Atlanta too and they are legit gangsters but this is when the rubber meets the road. It’s when it’s difficult that we do the right thing. Much love.
Tara is fine, she quoted Jay, I got chills! Killa Mike needs to run for governor of Ga. I would move there!
In the beginning of this video, I low-key thought the lady next to Mike was Queen Latifah👀🤣
If Stragalee murdered someone, he should be in prison. If he just wrote a song about it, he should not. Killer Mike's perspective is part (not all, but some) of why people think that black people have a predilection toward crime. It's not true. If someone committed a crime, we think they should be punished. The problem is that our people are over punished for crimes and assumed to be guilty when we are not guilty. This is different from actually committing a crime. That's not cool.
CTG needs Charleston White on this show!!
Great panel!
Great topic, but buddy on the right couldn't contribute to the conversation.
lyrics should not be used unless they have a witness confirming the validity of each line
Lmaooo ...Its funny cuz Tara Setmayer use to be candace owens b4 Candace owens... this rebrand is Crazzzzzzy
I dont fuck with the "highlighted words in the title" but I do fuck with the sentiment of this platform.
We’re congratulating Newsom on making it harder to crack down on gang violence when we just lost another rapper to what class? That’s right, gang violence. FOH. We’re lost.
Agree its sad. Our ppl are lost
Mike took this show over lol
Love Killer Mike!! 👏🏾🙌🏾
LOVE Tara. hands down had the BEST comments. Black Girl Magic.....(even if she is a conservative)
Agreed!
She's been on the View. Love her
Tara brought that energy.
"Listeners discretion is advised"
lol killer mike reeeeally trying to justify the chi drill kill cycle of tik-tok to rap video to gettin' caught slackin'