I would've most likely considered this tablet, but I just got the Kamvas 22 plus back in April, and for the few months that I've had it, I absolutely love it. Almost bought a Pro 24 Cintiq. I can live with 1080p a little while longer. Great review as always, Teoh.
I have the 16" version, and my laptop specs are not great at all. Intel IRIS+ GPU with 12GB RAM, 512GM SSD, and a 1080p display. It works perfectly with no lag or delay. If that can run it, then any modern laptop, and especially PC, can.
Finally, the day has come! A cheap 24inch 4k drawing tablet! 🤩 But I will wait for them to fix the wobbling line problem before buying. That is really a deal-breaker right now.
I use a cintiq which has no native pressure problems but I still add Lazy Nezumi because i can extra fine tune the lines beyond the already good quality. Lazy Nezumi should also fix any issues with this device. hopefully somebody will do a test and report back!
i had a cintiq 13hd i bought in early 2014 that had horrible jitter in everything, used lazy nazumi as a necessity. Sometime around april 2016 wacom released a driver that fully fixed it, have no idea how it took them so long, but it is possible. Hopefully Huion will be in a big hurry since this is a Halo product.
It doesn't have a wobbling problem, he's using a blotchy brush that's extremely sensitive to pressure, that's the stuff that put me off from buying the 2020 model, I got the Cintiq Pro 24 to avoid this issue then found out that the Wacom did the same thing depending on the brush and speed.
Finally 4k 24 inch. Then others will follow but I'll wait a few months and wait for other brands as getting 1st batch of a production might have issues
YESSSS thank you for reviewing it so early! I have been waiting and saving up for YEARS for a 4K wacom alternative and now that it's out I JUST CAN'T WAITTTTT
But giiirl, it's a broken device, right out of the box 😳🥺 Wacom is too expensive, but I would have to be crazy to spend almost €1.5k on something that doesn't work as intended.
@@katarina2069 I didn't say I'm gonna buy it on day one lol. I have a perfectly functioning GT-191 I'm using right now, I'll buy it when some time has passed and I've seen more reviews of people I trust such as Teoh. The issues I see are completely fixable in the next batches, it's not "broken", but definitely needs some adjustments
You can always just downscale the resolution if smoothness is a priority and your pc can't handle 4k60Hz. Would you mind testing it at 1080p or 2k with you 2015 Mac to see if it behaves properly? It still means someone might need to upgrade his PC but at least you don't have to wait on buying it or return it right away just because of it, just that you're less in a rush for upgrading than you might think, at least to wait for a good deal on a GPU which are obviously a bad choice to buy first right now and it is probably better to leave it for later, but you still would like to use it for work and to check for any factory defects within the guaranty period instead of just waiting for the upgrade and find out something doesn't work properly.
Me and my buddy already got ours! Both have been amazing. Deff glad I got this instead of the wacom pro 24 I was about to buy this month. Only bad thing so far is the annoying cable positioning
Great review, this screen tablet looks pretty good! A suggestion.... Maybe you could do a little template for your reviews so at the end of the video you can show your veredicts, the Teoh Stars System (AKA TST 😂) . Examples... build quality... Drawing experience.... Drivers.... Etc etc. The stars would be your profile picture actually. Would be fun stuff and you would double your suscribers in days with the new TST!!!
In the full review.. Could you show the parallax with different tilt angles? And especially at the beginning and end of the strokes? On huion kamvas 13 PRO tablet when I make long strokes the parallax at the beginning is correct, but at the end of the stroke it is horrible. Thanks for your time!
One thing to watch out for when switching to a pen display from a pen tablet is your monitor refresh rate. If you happen to have 144Hz or more, the pen display will feel very sluggish at first. The resolution will also feel very low unless you have one of these 4K models. All in all both types of tablets have their pros and cons!
Brushes with different pressure curves will massively help to reduce wobbly lines at low pressure. As for clip studio paint, I for instance prefer to use the mapping pen instead of the regular g pen since it has a much better pressure curve that allows me to maintain thin lines without wobble even when the brush size is relatively large.
I JUST picked up a kamvas 22plus for $450. I really wanted the 24 pro 4k but it's $1300. I'm going to save up for the pro 24 but for now the 22 plus is a huge upgrade from my 13" Wacom One that ive been using for 2 years. I was a wacom fanboy until I felt just how great the huion 3.0 pen feels on this 22 plus. so much better.
I’m surprised that they didn’t include an actual stand! I supposed that would make everything more pricey but that's really was one of the selling points for Wacom alternatives. I have a kamvas 22 plus so I’m good where I am but it’s nice to know they’re putting more work in to make better professional tablets. Thank you for the review!
Please review the Kamvas 24 plus if you get your hands on it. I’ve been considering the 22 plus but it’s 1080p in comparison to the 24 plus which is 1440p. Having your take comparing the two would really help :)
How it continue working after One year?, i will be really greatful if you could answer me, i’m thinking in buy a grafic tablet for Work, but i’m not sure in buy a huion tablet cause i had sow some reviews with a bad opinion about them, for glitches that it start appearing after a time using them
thank you for this review! I've been waiting for huion to come out with a high res 20 or 22 version with a higher res (mostly just hoping for QHD and not really the 4k/UHD) because I sort of worry that the 24 might be just a tad too large for my workspace. And feeling like the wacom 22 isnt really worth it because I'm looking for pro features, which isn't something wacom offers currently either. I don't know if huion will eventually make that size with a nice res, but this is def exciting to see them come out with something like this! Currently have an older huion model as a bg artist (gt-156), so been waiting to upgrade. Thanks for taking the time to review this so in-depth :)
I'm pushing to get either this tablet or the Kamvas Pro 16 Plus 4K model, would you say that there is no difference between the two other than the size? Does HDR matter on this graphic tablet?
There's one difference though. With the 24-inch, you can choose to have 150-175% scaling to get the UI to look like 1440P in which case this is allow you to place more windows, palettes on the display. This improves productivity. With 16-inch, most comfortable scaling is 200% which is 1080P scaling. Any other lower scaling will make the UI too small on this smaller pen display. HDR does not matter because it's all fake HDR with these pen displays. True HDR is noticeable with 400 nits (measured not marketed) and above. The marketed brightness for this pen display is just 220 nits. Actual brightness is less. It can play HDR movies but not with HDR effects. Colours will be good though because it's 10-bit display.
Compared to the 2020 Kamvas Pro 24, this one looks to have a more tactile glass surface, as well as improved parallax. Would you say that's an accurate statement? At any rate, I'm glad Huion is finally adding Felt nibs to the stylus accessories! Looking forward to your full review.
The drawing surface actually feels similar. If there's any difference, it's only something you can feel with a side by side comparison. Anyway, it's a nice surface to draw on. Main thing is it's not too slippery and has some tactile experience.
@@teohyc I see, well that's good to know. This one is shaping up as a direct competitor to the Cintiq Pro 24, which I was about to pull the trigger on. Gonna hold off for now and see how this one turns out.
Thx for the review. Finally Huion has a 10-bit display but the price also come closer to Wacom. I am used to draw on the 16" FHD model. But I would like to have more details on the pen display on 600dpi canvas. For example, I have to zoom in to check the line smoothness and extra pixels on the canvas. Would the larger ppi 4K display help these situation without zoom in and out? What is the different experience drawing on 24" display beside the UI enlargement? How to choose 4K 15.6" = 283ppi and 4K 23.8" = 185ppi for drawing?
You may have to zoom in. With 1080P resolution, everything will appear pixelated regardless of zoom. 4K just makes everything look more detailed regardless of zoom.
Well looks like its not true 10-bit display at least not if you want to use it at 4k 60hz. I was about to buy it until I knew about this, now Im seriously considering getting the cintiq 24 pro.
I hope so. But it's not that bad in the sense that I didn't feel like I have to draw any faster to make the lines smoother or have more consistent width.
What im worried if its the glass touches the screen when you add pressure of the pen? If it does....is a big NO NO for me. I still have nightmares of cintiq 16 pro dead pixels problems. You will need a quadro card or an rtx to get 10 bit feature.
I recommend Kamvas 22 Plus instead which is a newer model, but it doesn't have shortcut buttons. www.parkablogs.com/content/review-huion-kamvas-22-plus-pen-display
Test strategies for painting with a flat brush, without using the pen barrel roll detection which is only available in Wacom 6D Art Pens. If I switch to Huion, will I miss my 6D?
Can you compare this to the Wacom Centiq Pro 24? I’m interested in how they compare in terms of brightness. And what about the HDR feature? I thought HDR is only effective with very bright displays in the 600+ nit range. This display is less than 200 nits. Is this just marketing hype by Huion?
Did you notice any difference with the screen texture in different areas of the screen? I just picked up a Kamvas 16 pro 4k plus recently and am thinking about returning it due to the screen feeling different to use depending on where the pen is.
@@teohyc Yeah. I'm about to send mine back this morning. Most of the left side of the screen has intermittent bumps that I feel as I'm running the stylus along it. The right side felt uniform and normal. I'm giving Huion another shot. Decided to try the 24 pro 4k out as a replacement. If it has an issue like that then idk what I'm up to. Don't really want to spend for a Wacom system right now.
Would it be possible to get a review of some stylus pens that use AES? I just got a Lenovo x12 and didn't realize that it uses a Wacom AES digitizer, whereas the surface (and most) laptops use MPP/ntrig. I have the included pen and the precision pen, and HATE them both. I literally can't find any alternatives other than the Wacom bamboo, which is also a stupid 10mm thick. Really suffering drawing on that tablet because the pens lenovo offers suck so much.
Precision Pen is actually not bad. What do you don't like about it? Because the alternative would be the Surface Pen which has a nice tip but the drawing performance is not as good.
they will respond with lowering the price, for wacom tablet cycles, a new version usually comes out every 5-8 years wacom needs a competitor in all segment so they cant overcharging price
@@77dris wacom has high quality on its old products, for current products it doesn't especially cintiq line up, there are many product defects ranging from dead pixels, bleeding screen and others, and they are lazy to improve, imagine 2019 and they are still using "click wheel ipad" on the express remote, what a joke
Which model are you talking about? Anyway, in terms of value for money, the 24-inch 1440P displays are good. But if you have limited budget, then go with the Kamvas 22 Plus. www.parkablogs.com/content/review-huion-kamvas-22-plus-pen-display
@@teohyc Dunno if I should go with a used Cintiq 27QHD or the best Huion offers, I´m talking pure pen performance, maybe Huion has caught up with the older wacom models. The used cintiq would be about the same price as the 24 4k Huion. Thank you for replying btw it means a lot!
Does this display has speaker for audio? I just got this and connect to my laptop. When I play RUclips there’s no sound. I check that my laptop sound is showing the Huion display being selected with 50% volume.
Hi. I’m going to get a new kamvas 24 4K. Am I able to buy another stand for it? Like the ones they use on the other two 24 inch? I love those stands. Thank you.
If you're getting one to use as your main monitor, then 24 is nice. The 24 Plus also has 2560 x 1440 resolution which is great for productivity. But if you don't have table space, 16 is better.
Kamvas Pro 22? I recommend the Kamvas 22 Plus instead which is a newer model, but it doesn't have shortcut buttons. If it's between 22 vs 24 (4K), main difference is the resolution. Actually, in terms of value for money, currently it's better to get the models with 2560 x 1440 resolution. If you're low on budget, then the Kamvas 22 Plus is good.
I'm glad I got the 16" version. While a larger surface would be a bit nicer for pen strokes, I would be without it if I did get the larger one in times like now, where I'm outside my apt/ on vacation. And I can't bring the 24" to a nice part with a portable power bank and draw in nature, although inside my apt, it'd be much better. So there's tradeoffs to be had.
So no mantion of the fact that it cant do 4K 60Hz with 10-bit color depth? or is it just mine? but what it can do is 4K 12-Bit color depth but at 30Hz... and that it isnt technically true 10-bit color depth but instead 8-bit+FRC/ 8-Bit with dithering... over all it is great but...its not True 10-Bit.
they finally decide to use normal individual ports thats nice, but man the placement of them is really awkward & exposed, also Tech, i think you forgot/missed/skip to test the hdr display feature, felt nibs, & how its perform using the keypads?
I'll talk about those you mentioned in the full review. The HDR is just for marketing. You can't see true HDR with the marketed 220 nits (which is usually lower in real life).
Wacom will probably be upset that there are basically no reason to buy one of their products now... Only thing that I wish Huion starts doing differently is developing a unified driver so everything is updated... maybe release less models and improve the driver reliability across the board, I want to get an m1 laptop but I'm scared that with the new processor and constant MacOS releases the Huion driver for my Kamvas 22 Plus will start giving problems.. anyway I must say I never really had any problems on Windows and since is stationary it won't be a real issue for now.
I just bought a new IMac M1 (the best version, 16gb, etc) and I can tell you that my Kamvas 22 Plus is giving me some trouble. It works fine most of the time and the computer detects the monitor in a second without problem BUT... sometimes, ( a bit random event ) it does not give me fullscreen even when mirroring the Imac. Most of the times i get a smaller screen with black borders and i have to recalibrate the pen once again. Then sometime goes by and then i get fullscreen again...and yet again i have to recalibrate the pen. On the positive side the pen calibration has never been more accurate. Before with my classic imac the pen calibration was good but not exactly accurate...but with the new IMac M1 somehow, the pen calibration is 100% perfect...too bad i have to keep recalibrating every time the monitor resolution display changes randomly. And worst of all , the huion monitor twice has cause some major IMac crashes making me loose all my work. It works fine, then suddenly the screen goes totally crazy and colorful and the computer crashes. If i try to reconnect the huion right away at reboot the computer keeps having graphic glitches. I need to wait at least 5 minutes before i reconnect the huion 22 ...and then all seems fine once again.... but we never know how the M1 chip will react to the "old" kamvas 22 because this "glitch" happens all the time. I started writing this text right now, with my display with a border and then at this point the screen is now full screen once again mirroring the imac as it was suposed to be... but i bet it wont take long before the kamvas 22 will make the computer crash again.... So i hope the Huion Kamvas Pro 24 does not have this problem anymore... because buying the new Imac M1 was the best thing i ever did. It takes less than 3 seconds to open photoshop and it works fantastic with heavy software. Too bad my Kamvas 22 causes it to crash randomly or has those constant screen display size scale variations.... Ive been using Huion for my professional work since 2015 (www.icreateworlds.net) and im totally happy with it, except right now because of the way my kanvas 22 crashes my m1 Imac... at random.
i would like to know which one is better, Huion kanvas pro 24 or XP pen artist pro 24..? if someone already have knowledge and experience using it,pls reply my comment,appreciate it..tq
I don't care about this 4k version. I've bought the Huion Kamvas 24 pro, just one year ago, and I can't even make it work properly. Pen jumps and clicks each time I lift the pen from the screen completely. I did all the support recommendations, tried in another computer, did a windows fresh start, got a full tablet replacement from Huion after waiting for 4 entire months, and I'm still having this issue. Huion it's not for professional usage. I'd get a cheaper wacom instead of the best of the Huion ones. My old Wacom Cintiq 13 HD is still kicking for almost 7 years
Do you get the same problem with other drawing apps? Test Medibang Paint and Krita, both free. It's strange to have the 2nd unit behave the same too. Did you get the pen replaced?
@@teohyc Thanks for replying, it's not app-related, it's happening on desktop. Tried literally everything, I've spent half year and huion is still not giving me any insight. I got full replacement of unit and pen, but I do not trust the replacement so much, because it took literally 4 months to come in, I suspect it's another faulty unit.
I have a 600 dollars budget I going to purchase one next year or December Anyone know which one to buy Kamvas 22 pro, Wacom 16 Cintiq, kamvas 24 pro etc Any suggestions
Should I buy huion kamvas 24 plus or this pro 4K? The price is a huge difference between these two and I don’t know which one should I consider buying it
@@teohyc So they start to play the same trick just like Wacom... That's not a good sign imo ：/ (But at least this stand is ten times cheaper than Wacom, for now.)
I've been curious about this tablet from when I first saw its launch. Having a 4k tablet, especially for an 'affordable' price, seems like there's gonna be some catch of some sort, especially since 4k is a resolution that I find very 'picky and sensitive' 😂. Thank you for this review!
I’ve been using the 22 Kamvas plus which is basically all the same tech in this display just lower resolution and that has been pretty flawless the past year using it daily as a art director. Just got this 4k as a upgrade and it’s been as good as the 22 plus so far. Only downside I’ve come across is the cable positioning makes it a bit more annoying
LOL, Windows scaling is brutal. That is one of many reasons I prefer macOS. In Photoshop on a mac, the UI elements are nice and large but the workspace stays a perfect 1:1 with no loss of real estate, even on a 5K monitor (which is 2x the resolution of a 4K monitor). This monitor is $2000 vs $2300 for the Wacom (in Canada). The price is so close now I'd go with Wacom for that bit more because of potential long term reliability issues with Huion. One advantage of the Huion is that it has no fans. The Wacom 24 and 32 both have annoying fans. I would like to see more follow up reviews after a year using Huion and XP Pen. That's where I question buying one as I hear horror stories about support (especially Huion). Products like these should last at least 5 years.
200% is too much, i think he is blind af... and when you go for the cintiq and see all that noise like a noise filter at 5% opacity (rainbow effect)in the screen(that no one talks about btw), you will remember this comment! sry but wacom will have to learn the hard way...
Their HDR is just for marketing. It just means you can play HDR videos but whether you can see actual HDR effects is a different story (no you can't with their advertised 220 nits brightness which is actually lower in real world).
@@Miii_Houp For this you don't even need to test because the Huion brightness is marketed at 220 nits. Displays with 200 nits have been around for more than 20 years and back then, they don't even call these HDR-capable.
This looks TERRIBLY faulty. One is forced to draw really fast, to create the lines they want. Completely unacceptable for 1400 €. I will have to buy the bloody expensive Wacom after all. At least you get all that you pay for right? ..riiight?!? 😅😅😅 Or wait if maybe XP Pen will deliver. Anyone knows if they have something similar in the making?
If you draw really slowly then it’s going to be a problem. Not really a deal breaker here at least for me because when I was drawing, I was just drawing at my usual speed, and didn’t feel the need to draw faster. Unfortunately the XP Pen 24 4K that I am currently testing is not as good as the Huion.
@@teohyc not sure if this is top secret since I havent seen any XP Pen post talking about a 4K 24 inches monitor, so you might have leaked it haha. Might want to edit the comment if it could bring you problems in the future. on a side note , were you able to test the 1440p version ?
@@teohyc nice save ;) just kidding. Usually xp pen releases a similar offering shortly after Huion so I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a xp pen 24 4K soon. I can see how the wobble will be an issue for the artists that ink their work since they need slow precise lines, or even when painting fine details. There will most likely be a driver fix for this though, I don’t see huion leaving their flagship pen display with such a dramatic flaw.
Hello, Teoh I want to know what you think about Huawei's newest tablet, the Matepad 11 and 2nd gen M-Pencil. According to Huawei the 2nd gen M-Pencil latency is around 2ms. This is better than the latency of the Apple Pencil and Samsung S Pen which is around 9ms. It looks impressive, but I want to know a real review of an artist. And I want to know from your perspective. Thank you.
That latency will depend on the app you use. Not all apps will have 2ms. Even with Apple Pencil and Samsung S Pen, their latency will also depend on the apps used. Anyway, currently I'm testing Huawei MatePad Pro 10.8 (2021) and it's essentially the same as the 2019 model. So you can see my review for that using the link below. Main thing about the Huawei tablet is it does not have Google Play Store and the drawing apps variety is hence even more limited unless you want to use Chinese drawing apps. As for the MatePad 11. Even if it has excellent drawing performance, there's no Google Play Store. www.parkablogs.com/content/artist-review-huawei-matepad-pro-5g-m-pencil
Great video, but one important question ： Does this model contains both 100% sRGB and ARGB emulation mode other than user mode？ and if so, can these modes tweak the color temperatures or even the separate rgb value ？ I'm asking this because those are crucial functions for colour calibration, and I found over 90% of these pen display videos are lacking this type of information.
Hi, calling from the future. Did you ever find this out? Color accuracy is extremely important to me, and I generally use ARGB displays. Debating between getting this Huion model or a cintiq 24 pro.
@@Sam-ve4tx Yes it has. But the panel of this model have some fundamental issues with the blue accuracy. Although it can be tempered by using color calibration instrument, but if you are not very tight on budget, go for Wacom.
@@rockchen9026 Thanks for the speedy reply. That seems to be the consensus I'm reading, that if you have the budget for it the cintiq pros are still somewhat superior.
Huion’s killing it with their new products! Im loving it 😍
I would've most likely considered this tablet, but I just got the Kamvas 22 plus back in April, and for the few months that I've had it, I absolutely love it. Almost bought a Pro 24 Cintiq. I can live with 1080p a little while longer. Great review as always, Teoh.
I was curious if there's any reviews already and bang! Teoh delivers as always :D
Looking forward to watching the 16 4k vs 24 4k!
Yup, i would really like a video explaining the different specs a laptop/desktop should have to be able to run Photoshop with the 24" inch 4k Huion.
I have the 16" version, and my laptop specs are not great at all. Intel IRIS+ GPU with 12GB RAM, 512GM SSD, and a 1080p display. It works perfectly with no lag or delay. If that can run it, then any modern laptop, and especially PC, can.
Finally, the day has come! A cheap 24inch 4k drawing tablet! 🤩
But I will wait for them to fix the wobbling line problem before buying. That is really a deal-breaker right now.
I use a cintiq which has no native pressure problems but I still add Lazy Nezumi because i can extra fine tune the lines beyond the already good quality. Lazy Nezumi should also fix any issues with this device. hopefully somebody will do a test and report back!
i had a cintiq 13hd i bought in early 2014 that had horrible jitter in everything, used lazy nazumi as a necessity.
Sometime around april 2016 wacom released a driver that fully fixed it, have no idea how it took them so long, but it is possible.
Hopefully Huion will be in a big hurry since this is a Halo product.
@Jacklyn Brown pen smoothing program
It doesn't have a wobbling problem, he's using a blotchy brush that's extremely sensitive to pressure, that's the stuff that put me off from buying the 2020 model, I got the Cintiq Pro 24 to avoid this issue then found out that the Wacom did the same thing depending on the brush and speed.
It's $2000 cdn. That's not cheap. The Wacom is only $300 more. Might as well just get the Wacom (though it has fans)
Nice haircut Teoh
Hopefully this will be good once it's released.
Finally 4k 24 inch. Then others will follow but I'll wait a few months and wait for other brands as getting 1st batch of a production might have issues
Finallyyyy. This’ll be the one I finally upgrade to from my pro 20.
I knew Teoh would have a review on this! There is also a 2k version which might be worth the savings for some people.
In terms of value for money, the cheaper one is more worth the money.
Thank you for your review! It answered all my questions and some I didn't know I needed to ask!
YESSSS thank you for reviewing it so early! I have been waiting and saving up for YEARS for a 4K wacom alternative and now that it's out I JUST CAN'T WAITTTTT
But giiirl, it's a broken device, right out of the box 😳🥺 Wacom is too expensive, but I would have to be crazy to spend almost €1.5k on something that doesn't work as intended.
@@katarina2069 I didn't say I'm gonna buy it on day one lol. I have a perfectly functioning GT-191 I'm using right now, I'll buy it when some time has passed and I've seen more reviews of people I trust such as Teoh. The issues I see are completely fixable in the next batches, it's not "broken", but definitely needs some adjustments
This is only a deal if you are in the us, otherwise Wacom isn't too much more expensive. I would for sure buy a Cintiq 24 over this for 300 more.
You can always just downscale the resolution if smoothness is a priority and your pc can't handle 4k60Hz. Would you mind testing it at 1080p or 2k with you 2015 Mac to see if it behaves properly? It still means someone might need to upgrade his PC but at least you don't have to wait on buying it or return it right away just because of it, just that you're less in a rush for upgrading than you might think, at least to wait for a good deal on a GPU which are obviously a bad choice to buy first right now and it is probably better to leave it for later, but you still would like to use it for work and to check for any factory defects within the guaranty period instead of just waiting for the upgrade and find out something doesn't work properly.
Me and my buddy already got ours! Both have been amazing. Deff glad I got this instead of the wacom pro 24 I was about to buy this month. Only bad thing so far is the annoying cable positioning
Hello! How has it been these last months of use?
Hello! How has it been this last year of use?
'I like this model a lot. Plus, the key diel is separate. Now if they could just come out with a touchscreen version.
Great review, this screen tablet looks pretty good! A suggestion.... Maybe you could do a little template for your reviews so at the end of the video you can show your veredicts, the Teoh Stars System (AKA TST 😂) . Examples... build quality... Drawing experience.... Drivers.... Etc etc. The stars would be your profile picture actually. Would be fun stuff and you would double your suscribers in days with the new TST!!!
In the full review.. Could you show the parallax with different tilt angles? And especially at the beginning and end of the strokes?
On huion kamvas 13 PRO tablet when I make long strokes the parallax at the beginning is correct, but at the end of the stroke it is horrible.
Thanks for your time!
I’m also interested !! :o
Guaauu, this is fantastic!! I loved this tablet, Huion is perfect!! ❤️😍❤️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thank you for this tutorial!!!
One thing to watch out for when switching to a pen display from a pen tablet is your monitor refresh rate. If you happen to have 144Hz or more, the pen display will feel very sluggish at first. The resolution will also feel very low unless you have one of these 4K models. All in all both types of tablets have their pros and cons!
Brushes with different pressure curves will massively help to reduce wobbly lines at low pressure. As for clip studio paint, I for instance prefer to use the mapping pen instead of the regular g pen since it has a much better pressure curve that allows me to maintain thin lines without wobble even when the brush size is relatively large.
I JUST picked up a kamvas 22plus for $450. I really wanted the 24 pro 4k but it's $1300. I'm going to save up for the pro 24 but for now the 22 plus is a huge upgrade from my 13" Wacom One that ive been using for 2 years. I was a wacom fanboy until I felt just how great the huion 3.0 pen feels on this 22 plus. so much better.
I’m surprised that they didn’t include an actual stand! I supposed that would make everything more pricey but that's really was one of the selling points for Wacom alternatives. I have a kamvas 22 plus so I’m good where I am but it’s nice to know they’re putting more work in to make better professional tablets. Thank you for the review!
go look at the Wacom cintiq offerings, they are 100% copying without regard for actuall usability. The old stand was for sure more usable.
Sadly my 1080P 22 plus will inevitably serve as a productive tool for at least 10years. Maybe I will get a 4k equipment after it retire.
My G*d I'm in love with this one😍❤️😊💕... Very good review as always👍
Please review the Kamvas 24 plus if you get your hands on it. I’ve been considering the 22 plus but it’s 1080p in comparison to the 24 plus which is 1440p. Having your take comparing the two would really help :)
As always, i love your video! I jjsgot my hands on a rtx3070 32gb ram and I need this now!!! 😆😁🔥🤙
I've been waiting so long for this
Hello, then I would like to ask Wacom's pen pressure good or Huion's good pressure feeling?
How it continue working after One year?, i will be really greatful if you could answer me, i’m thinking in buy a grafic tablet for Work, but i’m not sure in buy a huion tablet cause i had sow some reviews with a bad opinion about them, for glitches that it start appearing after a time using them
thank you for this review! I've been waiting for huion to come out with a high res 20 or 22 version with a higher res (mostly just hoping for QHD and not really the 4k/UHD) because I sort of worry that the 24 might be just a tad too large for my workspace. And feeling like the wacom 22 isnt really worth it because I'm looking for pro features, which isn't something wacom offers currently either. I don't know if huion will eventually make that size with a nice res, but this is def exciting to see them come out with something like this! Currently have an older huion model as a bg artist (gt-156), so been waiting to upgrade.
Thanks for taking the time to review this so in-depth :)
24 is large. The other smaller 4K is the 15.6-inch which I think is a good size too since it's not too big or small.
Looking forward to the upgrade from my 1080p Huron 24 inch 👀. Will be much nicer to connect with my Mac mini as well.
Is there a way to remove the blotching when he pushes down because that seems really inconvenient!
I'm pushing to get either this tablet or the Kamvas Pro 16 Plus 4K model, would you say that there is no difference between the two other than the size? Does HDR matter on this graphic tablet?
There's one difference though.
With the 24-inch, you can choose to have 150-175% scaling to get the UI to look like 1440P in which case this is allow you to place more windows, palettes on the display. This improves productivity.
With 16-inch, most comfortable scaling is 200% which is 1080P scaling. Any other lower scaling will make the UI too small on this smaller pen display.
HDR does not matter because it's all fake HDR with these pen displays. True HDR is noticeable with 400 nits (measured not marketed) and above.
The marketed brightness for this pen display is just 220 nits. Actual brightness is less. It can play HDR movies but not with HDR effects. Colours will be good though because it's 10-bit display.
Compared to the 2020 Kamvas Pro 24, this one looks to have a more tactile glass surface, as well as improved parallax. Would you say that's an accurate statement? At any rate, I'm glad Huion is finally adding Felt nibs to the stylus accessories! Looking forward to your full review.
The drawing surface actually feels similar. If there's any difference, it's only something you can feel with a side by side comparison. Anyway, it's a nice surface to draw on. Main thing is it's not too slippery and has some tactile experience.
@@teohyc I see, well that's good to know. This one is shaping up as a direct competitor to the Cintiq Pro 24, which I was about to pull the trigger on. Gonna hold off for now and see how this one turns out.
@@KoolHandMike I just tested the felt nibs. It's like you're drawing with felt tip pens on paper except there's no wet ink.
Thx for the review. Finally Huion has a 10-bit display but the price also come closer to Wacom.
I am used to draw on the 16" FHD model. But I would like to have more details on the pen display on 600dpi canvas. For example, I have to zoom in to check the line smoothness and extra pixels on the canvas. Would the larger ppi 4K display help these situation without zoom in and out? What is the different experience drawing on 24" display beside the UI enlargement? How to choose 4K 15.6" = 283ppi and 4K 23.8" = 185ppi for drawing?
You may have to zoom in.
With 1080P resolution, everything will appear pixelated regardless of zoom. 4K just makes everything look more detailed regardless of zoom.
Well looks like its not true 10-bit display at least not if you want to use it at 4k 60hz. I was about to buy it until I knew about this, now Im seriously considering getting the cintiq 24 pro.
The issues with the lines could, in theory, be fixed by an update, right?
I hope so. But it's not that bad in the sense that I didn't feel like I have to draw any faster to make the lines smoother or have more consistent width.
@@teohyc also i think if you use high resolution canvas it is not that noticeable...
Can you please show your laptop specifications, i really wonder if my laptop could handle 4k pen display
What im worried if its the glass touches the screen when you add pressure of the pen? If it does....is a big NO NO for me. I still have nightmares of cintiq 16 pro dead pixels problems. You will need a quadro card or an rtx to get 10 bit feature.
Amd cards also support 10bit feature (though don't know about integrated graphics such as those on the 2200G/3200G/3400G).
The glass surface is hard. There's no flex at all.
Huion Kamvas Pro 22 or wait for this one to come out to Australia?
I recommend Kamvas 22 Plus instead which is a newer model, but it doesn't have shortcut buttons. www.parkablogs.com/content/review-huion-kamvas-22-plus-pen-display
Test strategies for painting with a flat brush, without using the pen barrel roll detection which is only available in Wacom 6D Art Pens. If I switch to Huion, will I miss my 6D?
yes yes you will. especially if your already acustomed to it.
WOW, I want to get one now!
WOOOOOOOOOOOW! Cool haircut and product.
Like the new cut G
Can you compare this to the Wacom Centiq Pro 24? I’m interested in how they compare in terms of brightness. And what about the HDR feature? I thought HDR is only effective with very bright displays in the 600+ nit range. This display is less than 200 nits. Is this just marketing hype by Huion?
It’s not real HDR if they can’t even get it to HDR400
Did you notice any difference with the screen texture in different areas of the screen? I just picked up a Kamvas 16 pro 4k plus recently and am thinking about returning it due to the screen feeling different to use depending on where the pen is.
Surface seems the same at all areas. You mean texture is different at some areas?
@@teohyc Yeah. I'm about to send mine back this morning. Most of the left side of the screen has intermittent bumps that I feel as I'm running the stylus along it. The right side felt uniform and normal. I'm giving Huion another shot. Decided to try the 24 pro 4k out as a replacement. If it has an issue like that then idk what I'm up to. Don't really want to spend for a Wacom system right now.
I have thier QHD version of this which I love but, the lack of an adjustable stand for this means I will skip upgrading until one is offered.
They sell the ST100 stand separately
@@teohyc good to know
Does this display use cooling fans?
And if so, what is the noise levels like.
There are no fans
@@teohyc Thank god, the fans on the wacom devices drive me insane.
Would it be possible to get a review of some stylus pens that use AES? I just got a Lenovo x12 and didn't realize that it uses a Wacom AES digitizer, whereas the surface (and most) laptops use MPP/ntrig.
I have the included pen and the precision pen, and HATE them both. I literally can't find any alternatives other than the Wacom bamboo, which is also a stupid 10mm thick.
Really suffering drawing on that tablet because the pens lenovo offers suck so much.
Precision Pen is actually not bad. What do you don't like about it?
Because the alternative would be the Surface Pen which has a nice tip but the drawing performance is not as good.
they actually catching up with wacom, even in certain aspects huion is superior
I don't know about superior, but if Wacom don't respond it's going to be AMD dominating Intel situation all over again.
they will respond with lowering the price, for wacom tablet cycles, a new version usually comes out every 5-8 years
wacom needs a competitor in all segment so they cant overcharging price
Wacom is higher quality and not much more $$$ (only 10% more where I live). But the Wacom has larger bezels and has fans which is SUPER annoying.
@@77dris wacom has high quality on its old products, for current products it doesn't especially cintiq line up, there are many product defects ranging from dead pixels, bleeding screen and others, and they are lazy to improve, imagine 2019 and they are still using "click wheel ipad" on the express remote, what a joke
Im in the market for a tablet, should I get a used 27QHD or this one?
Which model are you talking about?
Anyway, in terms of value for money, the 24-inch 1440P displays are good. But if you have limited budget, then go with the Kamvas 22 Plus.
www.parkablogs.com/content/review-huion-kamvas-22-plus-pen-display
@@teohyc Dunno if I should go with a used Cintiq 27QHD or the best Huion offers, I´m talking pure pen performance, maybe Huion has caught up with the older wacom models. The used cintiq would be about the same price as the 24 4k Huion. Thank you for replying btw it means a lot!
Does this display has speaker for audio?
I just got this and connect to my laptop.
When I play RUclips there’s no sound.
I check that my laptop sound is showing the Huion display being selected with 50% volume.
There's no audio/speakers
Hi. I’m going to get a new kamvas 24 4K. Am I able to buy another stand for it? Like the ones they use on the other two 24 inch? I love those stands. Thank you.
You can use those stands
@@teohyc Thank you.
Sir ,please make a video on how it feels to write on one note and ppt ,it will be helpful for teachers ♥️
You can write but the writing performance is not as good compared to portable tablets and pens
I wonder if it would be reasonable to choose the Kamvas 24 plus over the Kamvas pro 16 (plus or regular) hmm
If you're getting one to use as your main monitor, then 24 is nice.
The 24 Plus also has 2560 x 1440 resolution which is great for productivity.
But if you don't have table space, 16 is better.
Teoh thanks. Is there another screen coming out which is touch sensitive I also thought there were felt nibs too?
It comes with Felt nibs as well.
Thank you for the review. Do you think this is better then the Huion Canvas Pro 22? Not sure if the slightly larger screen is worth it?
Kamvas Pro 22? I recommend the Kamvas 22 Plus instead which is a newer model, but it doesn't have shortcut buttons.
If it's between 22 vs 24 (4K), main difference is the resolution. Actually, in terms of value for money, currently it's better to get the models with 2560 x 1440 resolution. If you're low on budget, then the Kamvas 22 Plus is good.
Your wallpaper is nice
You can find it here goo.gl/photos/HjY1hmo6p3jfFz8a7
Love the haircut
I thought I was balding and then realise, after the hair cut, that it's not that bad. lol
is there a setting to remove cursor display in huion kamvas ?
Can you review intuos 3 and compare it with more modern options? I hear so many stories about how ppl still love intuos 3. I'm wondering why?
Is it possible to use that pen display in a portrait mode? Like the opposite you’d use for drawing landscapes
You can. Just change the orientation in the OS settings.
The difficult part is getting the display to vertical physically.
@@teohyc Thanks for the respond, good to know :) and a happy new year
Please do a review on Huion latest Inspiroy pen tablet (RTE-100, RTS-300, RTM-500 & RTP-700). Appreciate that. Thanks
Thank you!
Is huion kamvas 22 plus less better in colours then new huion kamvas pro 24 4K in more colors or are they the same ?
The same. the pro 24 is a 10 bit panel so gradients should be smoother, but i double dare you to notice this in the real world.
They have almost similar colour accuracy.
@@teohyc alright thank you 😉
i just got this and now i want to protect the screen, any screen protection film you recommend please?
This is using matte glass so it's not going to scratch
Is bigger screen size better? 16 4K plus vs this?
I'm glad I got the 16" version. While a larger surface would be a bit nicer for pen strokes, I would be without it if I did get the larger one in times like now, where I'm outside my apt/ on vacation. And I can't bring the 24" to a nice part with a portable power bank and draw in nature, although inside my apt, it'd be much better. So there's tradeoffs to be had.
SO, no glove dance?
So no mantion of the fact that it cant do 4K 60Hz with 10-bit color depth?
or is it just mine?
but what it can do is 4K 12-Bit color depth but at 30Hz...
and that it isnt technically true 10-bit color depth but instead 8-bit+FRC/ 8-Bit with dithering...
over all it is great but...its not True 10-Bit.
It can reach 95% AdobeRGB so yeah, it's 10-bit. Even the best 8-bit FRC displays can't go beyond 90% AdobeRGB.
they finally decide to use normal individual ports thats nice, but man the placement of them is really awkward & exposed,
also Tech, i think you forgot/missed/skip to test the hdr display feature, felt nibs, & how its perform using the keypads?
I'll talk about those you mentioned in the full review. The HDR is just for marketing. You can't see true HDR with the marketed 220 nits (which is usually lower in real life).
What are the specs of your laptop for reference? the black one, not the mac.
It's LG Gram 16 (2021). Intel 11th gen process with 16GB RAM. My full review's here www.parkablogs.com/content/artist-review-lg-gram-17-2021
Wacom will probably be upset that there are basically no reason to buy one of their products now...
Only thing that I wish Huion starts doing differently is developing a unified driver so everything is updated... maybe release less models and improve the driver reliability across the board, I want to get an m1 laptop but I'm scared that with the new processor and constant MacOS releases the Huion driver for my Kamvas 22 Plus will start giving problems.. anyway I must say I never really had any problems on Windows and since is stationary it won't be a real issue for now.
I just bought a new IMac M1 (the best version, 16gb, etc) and I can tell you that my Kamvas 22 Plus is giving me some trouble. It works fine most of the time and the computer detects the monitor in a second without problem BUT... sometimes, ( a bit random event ) it does not give me fullscreen even when mirroring the Imac. Most of the times i get a smaller screen with black borders and i have to recalibrate the pen once again. Then sometime goes by and then i get fullscreen again...and yet again i have to recalibrate the pen. On the positive side the pen calibration has never been more accurate. Before with my classic imac the pen calibration was good but not exactly accurate...but with the new IMac M1 somehow, the pen calibration is 100% perfect...too bad i have to keep recalibrating every time the monitor resolution display changes randomly. And worst of all , the huion monitor twice has cause some major IMac crashes making me loose all my work. It works fine, then suddenly the screen goes totally crazy and colorful and the computer crashes. If i try to reconnect the huion right away at reboot the computer keeps having graphic glitches. I need to wait at least 5 minutes before i reconnect the huion 22 ...and then all seems fine once again.... but we never know how the M1 chip will react to the "old" kamvas 22 because this "glitch" happens all the time.
I started writing this text right now, with my display with a border and then at this point the screen is now full screen once again mirroring the imac as it was suposed to be... but i bet it wont take long before the kamvas 22 will make the computer crash again....
So i hope the Huion Kamvas Pro 24 does not have this problem anymore... because buying the new Imac M1 was the best thing i ever did. It takes less than 3 seconds to open photoshop and it works fantastic with heavy software. Too bad my Kamvas 22 causes it to crash randomly or has those constant screen display size scale variations....
Ive been using Huion for my professional work since 2015 (www.icreateworlds.net) and im totally happy with it, except right now because of the way my kanvas 22 crashes my m1 Imac... at random.
i would like to know which one is better, Huion kanvas pro 24 or XP pen artist pro 24..? if someone already have knowledge and experience using it,pls reply my comment,appreciate it..tq
See this comparison www.parkablogs.com/picture/xp-pen-artist-24-pro-vs-huion-kamvas-pro-24
I don't care about this 4k version. I've bought the Huion Kamvas 24 pro, just one year ago, and I can't even make it work properly. Pen jumps and clicks each time I lift the pen from the screen completely. I did all the support recommendations, tried in another computer, did a windows fresh start, got a full tablet replacement from Huion after waiting for 4 entire months, and I'm still having this issue. Huion it's not for professional usage. I'd get a cheaper wacom instead of the best of the Huion ones. My old Wacom Cintiq 13 HD is still kicking for almost 7 years
Do you get the same problem with other drawing apps? Test Medibang Paint and Krita, both free.
It's strange to have the 2nd unit behave the same too. Did you get the pen replaced?
@@teohyc Thanks for replying, it's not app-related, it's happening on desktop. Tried literally everything, I've spent half year and huion is still not giving me any insight. I got full replacement of unit and pen, but I do not trust the replacement so much, because it took literally 4 months to come in, I suspect it's another faulty unit.
I have a 600 dollars budget I going to purchase one next year or December
Anyone know which one to buy
Kamvas 22 pro, Wacom 16 Cintiq, kamvas 24 pro etc
Any suggestions
If you have the budget, Kamvas 24 Pro for the 1440P resolution
I have Wacom Cintiq 16, the pen is great but the screen feels too small. I would go for a 24" model.
wait did the drop a trailer for this ??
They were promoting the pen displays on Twitter and Facebook.
Can you pinch scale the screen or move the canvas with hand gestures etc?
No. It's not a touch screen.
@@teohyc ok ty
They don’t ship to Sweden… 😔
So this one is a straight duel with Cintiq 24 Pro, and only less than half price, interesting.
No. I know in Canada the Huion 24 4k is $2000. The Wacom 24 Pro is on sale $2299. So they are REALLY close in price.
@@77dris I see, in Taiwan the Cintiq 24 Pro is 2800$, not sure how much the Kamvas 24 Pro will be tho, it's not on the market yet.
Hi, what about the volume of the fan can you say something about that?
There's no fan, so no fan noise.
@@teohyc that's good news, thx
what best cheap mutli touch tablet drawing?
Should I buy huion kamvas 24 plus or this pro 4K? The price is a huge difference between these two and I don’t know which one should I consider buying it
24 Plus is more worth the money simply because it's significantly cheaper.
so fast 😯👍
Can u use procreate if u connect it with mac os
No, because MacOS does not have Procreate
This product requires a stand that can adjust the angle
Just realised Huion sells a ST100 stand that can be used with this pen display. store.huion.com/products/adjustable-stand-st100
@@teohyc So they start to play the same trick just like Wacom... That's not a good sign imo ：/
(But at least this stand is ten times cheaper than Wacom, for now.)
@@rockchen9026 The Wacom stand is $500. The Huion is only $50. So that's not remotely the same thing. Plus the monitor already has popout legs.
cant you flip vertically and use it upright
You need to get a VESA monitor arm to do that
Today i got xp pen artist 15.6 sir very
From india🇮🇳
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I've been curious about this tablet from when I first saw its launch. Having a 4k tablet, especially for an 'affordable' price, seems like there's gonna be some catch of some sort, especially since 4k is a resolution that I find very 'picky and sensitive' 😂. Thank you for this review!
I’ve been using the 22 Kamvas plus which is basically all the same tech in this display just lower resolution and that has been pretty flawless the past year using it daily as a art director. Just got this 4k as a upgrade and it’s been as good as the 22 plus so far. Only downside I’ve come across is the cable positioning makes it a bit more annoying
I need one but i cant pay for one
LOL, Windows scaling is brutal. That is one of many reasons I prefer macOS. In Photoshop on a mac, the UI elements are nice and large but the workspace stays a perfect 1:1 with no loss of real estate, even on a 5K monitor (which is 2x the resolution of a 4K monitor).
This monitor is $2000 vs $2300 for the Wacom (in Canada). The price is so close now I'd go with Wacom for that bit more because of potential long term reliability issues with Huion.
One advantage of the Huion is that it has no fans. The Wacom 24 and 32 both have annoying fans.
I would like to see more follow up reviews after a year using Huion and XP Pen. That's where I question buying one as I hear horror stories about support (especially Huion). Products like these should last at least 5 years.
200% is too much, i think he is blind af... and when you go for the cintiq and see all that noise like a noise filter at 5% opacity (rainbow effect)in the screen(that no one talks about btw), you will remember this comment! sry but wacom will have to learn the hard way...
@@c0sm1cb0y Don't all tablets with etched glass have this? I think even the new Huion 4K have this.
Linux with a second non-mirrored monitor?
I don't think this supports Linux
@@teohyc Linux supports it ... But maybe no calibration app. Maybe tricky. All unofficial. Try it if you have a Linux install! Thanks for the review 🙌
Is it HDR? Is HDR important?
No it doesn't matter, it's BS HDR as it does not have the required brightness to match the spec.
Their HDR is just for marketing. It just means you can play HDR videos but whether you can see actual HDR effects is a different story (no you can't with their advertised 220 nits brightness which is actually lower in real world).
@@teohyc Hmmm but you are on laptop how would you know? Is your laptop HDR?
@@Miii_Houp For this you don't even need to test because the Huion brightness is marketed at 220 nits. Displays with 200 nits have been around for more than 20 years and back then, they don't even call these HDR-capable.
nice
This looks TERRIBLY faulty. One is forced to draw really fast, to create the lines they want. Completely unacceptable for 1400 €.
I will have to buy the bloody expensive Wacom after all. At least you get all that you pay for right? ..riiight?!? 😅😅😅
Or wait if maybe XP Pen will deliver. Anyone knows if they have something similar in the making?
If you draw really slowly then it’s going to be a problem. Not really a deal breaker here at least for me because when I was drawing, I was just drawing at my usual speed, and didn’t feel the need to draw faster.
Unfortunately the XP Pen 24 4K that I am currently testing is not as good as the Huion.
@@teohyc not sure if this is top secret since I havent seen any XP Pen post talking about a 4K 24 inches monitor, so you might have leaked it haha. Might want to edit the comment if it could bring you problems in the future.
on a side note , were you able to test the 1440p version ?
Oh, it's not the XP Pen 24 4K, I got mixed up. It's the XP Pen 16TP 4K. Actually if you want value for money, the 1440P models are good.
Why not just use line stabilization?
@@teohyc nice save ;) just kidding. Usually xp pen releases a similar offering shortly after Huion so I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a xp pen 24 4K soon. I can see how the wobble will be an issue for the artists that ink their work since they need slow precise lines, or even when painting fine details. There will most likely be a driver fix for this though, I don’t see huion leaving their flagship pen display with such a dramatic flaw.
Weird bobble, especially at this point. I think it might just be a driver issue.
Hello, Teoh
I want to know what you think about Huawei's newest tablet, the Matepad 11 and 2nd gen M-Pencil. According to Huawei the 2nd gen M-Pencil latency is around 2ms. This is better than the latency of the Apple Pencil and Samsung S Pen which is around 9ms. It looks impressive, but I want to know a real review of an artist. And I want to know from your perspective. Thank you.
That latency will depend on the app you use. Not all apps will have 2ms. Even with Apple Pencil and Samsung S Pen, their latency will also depend on the apps used.
Anyway, currently I'm testing Huawei MatePad Pro 10.8 (2021) and it's essentially the same as the 2019 model. So you can see my review for that using the link below.
Main thing about the Huawei tablet is it does not have Google Play Store and the drawing apps variety is hence even more limited unless you want to use Chinese drawing apps.
As for the MatePad 11. Even if it has excellent drawing performance, there's no Google Play Store.
www.parkablogs.com/content/artist-review-huawei-matepad-pro-5g-m-pencil
Those are just numbers. There is 0 lag on the Apple Pencil. None. So the numbers in ms are basically just meaningless marketing ploys.
Someone have this wallpaper at the tumb of that vídeo ?
Find it here goo.gl/photos/HjY1hmo6p3jfFz8a7
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Great video, but one important question ： Does this model contains both 100% sRGB and ARGB emulation mode other than user mode？ and if so, can these modes tweak the color temperatures or even the separate rgb value ？ I'm asking this because those are crucial functions for colour calibration, and I found over 90% of these pen display videos are lacking this type of information.
Hi, calling from the future. Did you ever find this out? Color accuracy is extremely important to me, and I generally use ARGB displays. Debating between getting this Huion model or a cintiq 24 pro.
@@Sam-ve4tx Yes it has. But the panel of this model have some fundamental issues with the blue accuracy. Although it can be tempered by using color calibration instrument, but if you are not very tight on budget, go for Wacom.
@@rockchen9026 Thanks for the speedy reply. That seems to be the consensus I'm reading, that if you have the budget for it the cintiq pros are still somewhat superior.