It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
@@noelsushilismile7206 Yours is a cut and paste reply everywhere. It’s obvious you are a 2 rupees wala having no clue about history, except parroting what your dons ask you to. Better read history of Indian Independence before typing another alphabet.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
This interview clarifies everything and Karan has interviewed the right person to do it rather than read and call for interview any Tom, Dick & Harry on the matter who have sprung up here and there.. love Karan Thapars interviews since it's being done with lot of research and questions asked are of great relevance.
Always enjoy your interviews & other informations from Karan. No BS but simply informatiove & intelegent discussions only. No time wasted, No screaming or misbehavioral manners. Congratulations Karan. Im joining this channel for thie honest news.
Absolutely ABSURD.Rajnath Singhs claim.!!!Shamelessly RAJNATH SINGH says.Savarkar petitioned mercy and release as advised by GANDHIJI.!!! WHAT A SHAMEFUL STATEMENT.!!!
Thanks Karan for this interesting interview with The grandson of Mahatma he is such a gem of a person, we get to understand what a upright honest interview is all about 🙏🙏
@@SRINI_VAS1 He propounded two nation theory. He was involved in employment of Indians in Britain Indian Army to fight against Netaji's INA. He was on the payroll of British....
Sandeep Singh Savarkar was a deshbhakt. A tactical and practical nationalist who offered actual, concrete solutions for equality like a uniform civil code. Not an impractical idealist like Gandhi who simply propagated and set unattainable, utopian yardsticks of equality not rooted in or disconsiderate of the ground realities and factual circumstances. Only to extend his own personality cult. And at the cost of the majority way of life. How was that equality? Besides, Gandhi wanted to give dominion status to the British. Hence, he never got Kalapani while Savarkar did. Savarkar spent more years in imprisonment than the combined number of Gandhi and Nehru.
@@GSS77712 Sawarkar was a maafinama bhakt. Sawarkar was not the only one who got KALAPANI. Many revolutionaries from Punjab were also given Kalapani sazaa. Only Sawakar grovelled at the feet of British and said sorry many times. He was later given pension by British for being loyal to them. He was first to State " Two Nation theory"
@@SandeepSingh-ey4ih Strangely, all those who claim he "apologized" or "begged" are never able to point out the same. 'Coz petitioning doesn't amount to "grovelling". By that logic Shivaji Maharaj, Ram Prasad Bismil, Jawaharlal Nehru, S.A. Dange all grovelled in front of the British. Point me out a single passage in any of his petitions where he said "sorry". If you like others are selectively quoting words like "I beg" or "your obedient servant" and taking those words literally, I pity your ill-education. 'Coz that is not begging. That is simply common, legal lexicon that lawyers use in their legal capacity and Savarkar being a lawyer did the same. When you use terms like "I beg your pardon", or "I beg your attention", "I beg your assistance", "I beg your help", or "Yours obediently", in your formal correspondence, are you actually begging in that case? Savarkar never begged. His sentence itself was arbitrary and whimsical. He was the only freedom fighter who got 50 years at Kalapani, the harshest prison of the land. None before him, after him or with him got such a long sentence, that too at Kalapani. So Savarkar like Shivaji Maharaj merely took a tactical retreat. Upon coming out, he continued fighting discreetly against the British as the British had restricted his political activities. He continued writing a lot of literature against the British, invoking Bharat's ancient Dharmik glory, history and heroes. A lot of his literature got banned too. He was the one who gave the idea of INA to Netaji Bose. He even contributed from his personal funds to INA, also recruiting youth for INA. He got another British officer assassinated after he came out of prison. He was given the harshest ever sentence at Kalapani for a reason. The British were scared of him. While Nehru actually begged for mercy while being lodged at Nabha prison, despite getting all the 5 star facilities there. Savarkar was entitled to pension legally as his entire youth was lost in imprisonment and opportunities of earning a living were lost with age. As were other political prisoners. He earned mostly from the royalties of his books and in any case, the pension he received was from all the wealth the British had looted from India as it is. So it was a ghar wapsi of a kind. And Savarkar donated from the same to Netaji Bose's INA. It was Gandhi and Nehru who wanted to give dominion status to the British and at their behest, publicly denounced Netaji Bose as a war criminal. While Savarkarji supported him throughout. And no, he never advocated the two nation theory. In his speeches, Savarkar clearly stated that even though Hindus and Muslims are two different nations unto themselves, both can co-exist under a common, uniform civil code, scrapping all personal laws and law boards for different religious communities, without any appeasement to any community. He actually advocated true equality through legitimate frameworks while Gandhi and Nehru kept up a sham of secularism without really providing any concrete, long term solutions for the same. And pseduo-secularists continue the same legacy to this day. Savarkar is far too complex to comprehend for people who've been brainwashed in leftist laterines.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
Down to Earth conversation for the audience. I am sure citizens of India stand corrected and informed now as contrast to the blatant ill-informed Rajnath Singh ji.
Thanks for this interview. It would be interesting to have Vikram Sampath on your platform who despite his scholarship and claimed objectivity seems to be out to reduce Gandhi and lionise Savarkar. I have heard at least three of his interviews - one along with Shashi Tharoor in India Today Conclave , one along with Aditya Mukherjee on Lallantop and one on Satya Hindi platform with Ashutosh. It was painful to see how in all cases the other side could not contest well the perception Sampath is trying to create about Savarkar. Mr. Rajmohan Gandhi has brought out that difference very well. I would be more than pleases to see you interviewing Sampath after this one. It's impotant that he be exposed in his insinuations in the garb of scholarship. Gandhi's greatness lies in his ability to own mistakes genuinely and ability to grow in thoughts throughout life correcting himself at every step , acknowledging his opponents. Despite differences between Ambedkar and Gandhi people like me cannot help but respect both the contemporaries because one can see the difference as a result of where they came from but what made them come together at the end was a genuine concern for empowerment for all including the most marginalised. I am mentioning Ambedkar because Sampath uses differences between Ambedkar and Gandhi throughout to justify Savarkar.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
Thank you for this comment Sujata. Exactly my thoughts on the subject. The problem as I see is not too many out there can see through Sampath's chicanery.
@@noelsushilismile7206 Can you stop pasting the same moronic comment under a fictitious name when the whole world and her uncle can tell just which side of the divide you are on.
Sujata. I think Karan was one of the first journos to have interviewed sampath in the past 2 months after he wrote his book. Do see it. .of course till then these stupid blatant lies of the likes of rajnath singh hadn't been uttered !! And werent in circulation as another diversionary issue. !!
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
@@noelsushilismile7206 Besides, the very party was created by a British A.O. Hume. This is for all those andhachamchas who accuse other freedom fighters and nationalist as British bootlickers and give all the credit for Independence to Gandhi and Nehru.
What a contrast! Gopalkrishna Gandhi cannot stop talking and Rajmohan Gandhi does not start to speak before he ends. What is more.. as Rajgopalachari's grandson, he has turned out to be far more like Gandhi than his other grandparent... thank goodness.. A pragmatic and generous man.. kind, indeed.. wonderful. Thanks for this interview.. (Oh, do stop saying.. "you have said something important.." Karan)...
Between Gandhi& Rajaji the latter was not only more brilliant, but also a visionary . Had Gandhi listened to Rajaji in1941 in regard to partition , there would not have been animosity and bloodbath between two communities which was also being fueled by the RSS , Hindu Sabha as much as Muslim League
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
The RSS & its members from the BJP have proved, if proof were needed , that the level of their education and culture are below accepted levels. In fact , these people had formed provincial governments in Sind, NWFP & Bengal in alliance with Jinnah's Muslim League
The last statement by Mr. Gandhi, to those who paid close attention, is crystal clear as to what instance of violence he was alluding to. Gandhi's assassination. Very well put!
Tremendous.What an insight.Least expected a man of Shri Rajnath Singh's stature to come out with his concocted version of the mercy petition filed by Mr. Savarkar to the British. Thank God we had the father of the nation fighting for independence on our side. Shudder to think what would have happened if people like Mr. savarkar & Mr. Jinnah were at the helm of affairs during our struggle for freedom. WOW.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
What is the todays value of Rs.70.00 monthly pension British Government paid Savarkar, value of which is 5 grams gold at that point of time. For what services of Savarkar this huge pension was paid ?
Very insightful. Thank you. Those in power think they can rewrite history. That is their folly. History has been experienced, witnessed, written about. But then why are we expecting anything better from political class?
Fine, many wrote mercy petitions. Well then how many ppl took pension of Rs. 60 from British after the release n even wrote letters to increase the pension?
Karan ji, Tanashah may have insisted from minister to speak in favour of Savarkar. Hence, minister has no option but to speak, if he wants to continue in ministry. Because he's in cabinet on Mercy of Tanashah and not on his merits...!!
the sheer depth of fact and rigorous historic research is the finest, inarguable disinfectant. rajnath singh's lies and all of his useless IT cell bots and trolls disintegrate in the face of this brilliant interview with Mr Rajmohan Gandhi.
Savarkar was undoubtedly a charismatic person and a revolutionary in his own might and he had contributed immensely to the freedom struggle through his unparalleled literature during the first half of his life. However, after he got released from the cellular jail, his entire approach towards the freedom struggle changed and he disgracefully sided with the Britishers in the subsequent years. He also received a pension from the Britishers and even pleaded for an increement. This ultimately makes him a controversial figure at the best and a traitor at worst!!!!!
I can't believe a seasoned politician like Mr.Rajnath Sing could make such an irresponsible and unbecoming statement of the sort. And still intriguing is that whether he did so out his conviction or to Please someone for his own political survival. I am ashamed that the Indian politics has reached at the nadir of its decency. Mr.Rajnath Sing is the one among the few bjp politicians whom I respect and consider standing tall in the politics of today, but with this he has fallen to the level of his metor. Well, let it be as it is; I am so happy I could hear and see Mr Rajmohan Gandhi live and could get to know his views - an authoritative and convincing one. As Mr Thapar said, Mr Sing may be listening, and pondering upon too - I hope, in the interest of the nation.
History shouldn't be "fictionalised" to satisfy the narratives of selected few. It is an injustice to the community at large and we as a citizens has duty to ask questions and corroborating facts.
For some with less than honourable motive, history must be palatable as well as presentable. With a cherry on the top, tied in pink ribbon, if you see what I mean. What is the point of history, at the end of the day, if it does not garner few bigoted votes?
Karan Thapar should also have a conversation with Saideepak and Vikram Sampath that will make things clear. Wire is always having conversation with people with same Ideology.
@@sanjaygadhalay It's just a suggestion to bring on opposite views on the board as well. If wire is media it has to be impartial and should be neutral. As far as lies or truth is considered everyone hear have thier own narrative.🙂
It is foolish to believe that people like Sampath don't know the truth. Fact is their conviction to their cause, and faith in the political ideology of their choice is beyond these truths.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
Any historian worth his salt has to be laser sharp objective. There is no room for sentimentality or otherwise instead of history it he would be writing hagiography. Thank god our progeny Gandhi as a historian is maintaining some degree of decency and neutrality. Yes I love that too.
All these controversies are deliberately brought up just to shift focus from main issues, don't follow on such issues. Stick to main issues of the day.
DPSP (Directive Principles of State Policies) "राज्य के नीति निर्देशक तत्व" ही भारत की जनता का चुनावी प्रतिज्ञा/घोषणा पत्र है और भारत की हर केंद्र व राज्य सरकार इस प्रतिज्ञा पत्र को लागू करने के लिए कर्तव्य बद्ध है !
The more I come to learn of him the more I am awe-struck to realize what a colossal social reformer Gandhiji was. Probably the greatest since Raja Ram Mohan Roy and Swami Vivekananda. It also saddens me to reflect on how much more of his good work remains unfinished to this day. Nay, yet even sadder witnessing it demolished brick by brick for a handful of crummy bigoted votes.
Sir As a Indian we have read the history our freedom struggle. The crucial question is why Rajnath Singh said what he said and timing of that. Today we have understood the strategy of Modi Govt since 2014. When ever Modi is targeted for his incompetency some minister suddenly come out and gives very absurd statement knowing that it is a lie. Whole indian intellectuals and historians start debating on the topic and public focus is diverted from govt incompetency. The question is will this strategy working today for modi. I doubt it.
Sometime I think it's good when these type of claims come from some ministers people like me are more curious to know what is truth and it helps to know more about Gandhi or Nehru or Bhaghat Singh and their relationship and their struggle for freedom. Truth never die. It always comes forward one way or another.
Every few days BJP floats a point for the godi media and the RUclipsrs to discuss and divert attention from the burning issues before the Nation. Different kinds of media should stick to the issues affecting the public in general.🌹🌷
Why we are ignoring early Telugu Revolutionery legendary patriot Alluri Seetharama Raju who led massive armed rebellion agaist the Britishraj between 1897 to 1924?
Rajnath only said what he did because that was what Amit desired. BJP have achieved their objective of diverting attention. Shah is laughing while eating Dhokla. he does not care what debate the chattering classes do. he is happy to keep throwing feed to the birds.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
The Wire must then also expose Mallikarjun Kharge's totally false claim that Dr. Ambedkar wished to add the words 'Secular' and 'Socialist' to the Preamble of the Indian Constitution, and to further the muddy claim that he was unable to do so as the 'conditions' were not conducive. This is entirely at odds with the transcript of the constituent assembly proceedings ! In fact, the suggestion to include these two words came from one Prof. K. T. Shah (representing Bihar) where he opined that 'India should be a Secular, Federal, Socialist Union of States'. Dr. Ambedkar turned down the proposal by explaining as follows ; "What should be the policy of the State, how the Society should be organised in it's social and economic side are matters which must be decided by the people themselves according to time and circumstances. It cannot be laid down in the Constitution itself, because that is destroying democracy altogether." Open challenge to Karan Thapar to speak with similar loudness of the false claim made by the then Leader of the Opposition. Let him also throw light for posterity as to how surreptitiously these words were inserted into the Preamble of the Indian Constitution. Dr. Ambedkar suggested that 'it must be decided by people according to time and circumstances.....'. What a wonderful time was selected, and the most opportune circumstance created to insert these words - right in midst of the bloody Emergency when all of the Opposition was jailed ! The darling Congress was yet again under foreign influence viz. the Soviets in getting these two satanic words in the Constitution which was a complete misfit to the inherent culture of India viz. Spirituality. The subsequent governments too lacked the spine in the face of the over bearing influence of the Soviets then. The main purpose of inserted these misfit terms was to cause a cultural fracture in India. Going by the dictionary meaning of the word Secular, it means 'disconnected from religion and spirituality'. Does this sync with the inherent culture of India where the rivers of so many religions flow through since ages ?? This was outright mischievous, which formalised vote bank politics, which the Nation saw in full bloom through the overturning of the Shah Bano judgement in Parliament by none other than the 'Darling Congress'. Before this event, the word Hindutva was an unknown. The Hindus were in a state of complete 'Secular Slumber' till the 'Darling Congress' woke up the sleeping giant of Hindutva. Will Karan Thapar ever speak all of this and try to get it between his two ears that Hindutva is only a 'counter' and will remain as one as long as the Secularists whom he loves to cling by, continue with their vote bank politics. It maybe that the BJP is now doing the same thing. But, if the truth is not accepted by the 'intellectuals' there cannot be any reconciliation, which intellectuals like him should work towards. But, unfortunately the intellectuals and the Media have made the choice, been openly partisan and are just another breed of dogs barking in the streets of the Nation. Betterment can only come about when intellectuals think and act as intellectuals. Vande Mataram, Jai Hind !
Well , debate. Karnji please one more debate on today's our ground report for our Grate Nation with Rajmohanji.Wich our nation facing, so we follow Rastrapita vision with in principle of SAWIDHAN.
The discussion is crystal clear which is now being twisted to their favour by the present dispensation to strengthen their hindu rashtra movement now that article 370 and mandir issue is done and dusted
For the first time, a phrase by phrase factual rebuttal of the statement of Rajnath Singh. Without screaming and high voltage denunciations. This is how the insidious propaganda is RSS shld be countered.
What a nice conversation. Nice to hear truth from Gandhiji's grandson.
The usage of words by Gandhiji grandson is subtle and apt
Remember in 2014 when bjp campaign was all about corruption and development and how things changed since then..
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
@@noelsushilismile7206 At least they did not side with the British like the RSS, BJP(Hindu Mahasabha ) did
@@noelsushilismile7206 Yours is a cut and paste reply everywhere. It’s obvious you are a 2 rupees wala having no clue about history, except parroting what your dons ask you to. Better read history of Indian Independence before typing another alphabet.
When there is so much information available about Savarkar's betrayal on some occasions, how can he ba called VEER and glorified.
He himself used the word "veer" in a book Barrister Savarkar written using a pseudo name of Chitragupta.
@@kribh he tried his best to behave like a true VEER 😂
" Modi hai tu mumkin hai". 🤣🤣🤣
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
Wonder how Savarkar is called Veer Savarkar.!!!!!!!!!! What is his greatness other than a Hindu Fundamentalist who was rival of Muslims.???????
Shameful how people in high offices of the present dispensation lie at the drop of a hat to further their own nefarious(divide India) agenda.
Shameful for hiding facts since 70 years. Bringing same historians who distored all these years
This interview clarifies everything and Karan has interviewed the right person to do it rather than read and call for interview any Tom, Dick & Harry on the matter who have sprung up here and there.. love Karan Thapars interviews since it's being done with lot of research and questions asked are of great relevance.
We can expect outcome of interview. I keep watching all karan interviews though the out come interview
@@SRINI_VAS1 pls correct yr English
@@SRINI_VAS1 what do you want to say?
Always enjoy your interviews & other informations from Karan. No BS but simply informatiove & intelegent discussions only. No time wasted, No screaming or misbehavioral manners. Congratulations Karan. Im joining this channel for thie honest news.
I almost heard Gandhiji speak . Thank you Rajmohan Gandhi.
Absolutely ABSURD.Rajnath Singhs claim.!!!Shamelessly RAJNATH SINGH says.Savarkar petitioned mercy and release as advised by GANDHIJI.!!! WHAT A SHAMEFUL STATEMENT.!!!
Excellent 👍 One of the best interview in this country.
Thanks Karan for this interesting interview with The grandson of Mahatma he is such a gem of a person, we get to understand what a upright honest interview is all about 🙏🙏
Thank God for Rajmohan Gandhi's scholarship, otherwise these days we have been made to believe that Sawarkar was a deshbhakt
Definately not pakistani supporter i believe. Lot of pakistani supporters are deshbhats to us.
@@SRINI_VAS1
He propounded two nation theory.
He was involved in employment of Indians in Britain Indian Army to fight against Netaji's INA.
He was on the payroll of British....
Sandeep Singh Savarkar was a deshbhakt. A tactical and practical nationalist who offered actual, concrete solutions for equality like a uniform civil code. Not an impractical idealist like Gandhi who simply propagated and set unattainable, utopian yardsticks of equality not rooted in or disconsiderate of the ground realities and factual circumstances. Only to extend his own personality cult. And at the cost of the majority way of life. How was that equality? Besides, Gandhi wanted to give dominion status to the British. Hence, he never got Kalapani while Savarkar did. Savarkar spent more years in imprisonment than the combined number of Gandhi and Nehru.
@@GSS77712 Sawarkar was a maafinama bhakt. Sawarkar was not the only one who got KALAPANI. Many revolutionaries from Punjab were also given Kalapani sazaa. Only Sawakar grovelled at the feet of British and said sorry many times. He was later given pension by British for being loyal to them. He was first to State " Two Nation theory"
@@SandeepSingh-ey4ih Strangely, all those who claim he "apologized" or "begged" are never able to point out the same. 'Coz petitioning doesn't amount to "grovelling". By that logic Shivaji Maharaj, Ram Prasad Bismil, Jawaharlal Nehru, S.A. Dange all grovelled in front of the British. Point me out a single passage in any of his petitions where he said "sorry". If you like others are selectively quoting words like "I beg" or "your obedient servant" and taking those words literally, I pity your ill-education. 'Coz that is not begging. That is simply common, legal lexicon that lawyers use in their legal capacity and Savarkar being a lawyer did the same. When you use terms like "I beg your pardon", or "I beg your attention", "I beg your assistance", "I beg your help", or "Yours obediently", in your formal correspondence, are you actually begging in that case? Savarkar never begged. His sentence itself was arbitrary and whimsical. He was the only freedom fighter who got 50 years at Kalapani, the harshest prison of the land. None before him, after him or with him got such a long sentence, that too at Kalapani. So Savarkar like Shivaji Maharaj merely took a tactical retreat. Upon coming out, he continued fighting discreetly against the British as the British had restricted his political activities.
He continued writing a lot of literature against the British, invoking Bharat's ancient Dharmik glory, history and heroes. A lot of his literature got banned too. He was the one who gave the idea of INA to Netaji Bose. He even contributed from his personal funds to INA, also recruiting youth for INA. He got another British officer assassinated after he came out of prison. He was given the harshest ever sentence at Kalapani for a reason. The British were scared of him. While Nehru actually begged for mercy while being lodged at Nabha prison, despite getting all the 5 star facilities there. Savarkar was entitled to pension legally as his entire youth was lost in imprisonment and opportunities of earning a living were lost with age. As were other political prisoners. He earned mostly from the royalties of his books and in any case, the pension he received was from all the wealth the British had looted from India as it is. So it was a ghar wapsi of a kind. And Savarkar donated from the same to Netaji Bose's INA. It was Gandhi and Nehru who wanted to give dominion status to the British and at their behest, publicly denounced Netaji Bose as a war criminal. While Savarkarji supported him throughout. And no, he never advocated the two nation theory. In his speeches, Savarkar clearly stated that even though Hindus and Muslims are two different nations unto themselves, both can co-exist under a common, uniform civil code, scrapping all personal laws and law boards for different religious communities, without any appeasement to any community. He actually advocated true equality through legitimate frameworks while Gandhi and Nehru kept up a sham of secularism without really providing any concrete, long term solutions for the same. And pseduo-secularists continue the same legacy to this day. Savarkar is far too complex to comprehend for people who've been brainwashed in leftist laterines.
Thank you Mr. Gandhi for a very informative discussion
Rajmohan Gandhi is a true gem.Simple and effective.
What about Modi? He is a bigger gem
@@nishaverma4173 can't figure out if you are being sarcastic or genuinely mean it
Thank you for keeping #Journalism alive, some journalists can't afford this. Live long... ❤️❤️
Thank You Karan.... And Shri Rajmohan Gandhi it will be interesting to watch ❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
Trajectory of Vishvaguru New India:
From
Sab Nehru ki Galati thi
To
Gandhiji was responsible.
When will current regime learn to own up own deeds?
Down to Earth conversation for the audience.
I am sure citizens of India stand corrected and informed now as contrast to the blatant ill-informed Rajnath Singh ji.
Karan Ji is one of the best interviewers !!!!!!!!!!!!!
A brilliant conversation- for its historical references, clarity and relevance to today’s struggle to find ourselves as a nation
Hopefully your Dr is not awarded khans gang.
One of my favorite among many other of your interviews
Thank you sir for yet another insightful conversation
Thank you Karan and The Wire fire this interview! This should clear any doubts people might have.
Thanks for this interview. It would be interesting to have Vikram Sampath on your platform who despite his scholarship and claimed objectivity seems to be out to reduce Gandhi and lionise Savarkar. I have heard at least three of his interviews - one along with Shashi Tharoor in India Today Conclave , one along with Aditya Mukherjee on Lallantop and one on Satya Hindi platform with Ashutosh. It was painful to see how in all cases the other side could not contest well the perception Sampath is trying to create about Savarkar. Mr. Rajmohan Gandhi has brought out that difference very well. I would be more than pleases to see you interviewing Sampath after this one. It's impotant that he be exposed in his insinuations in the garb of scholarship. Gandhi's greatness lies in his ability to own mistakes genuinely and ability to grow in thoughts throughout life correcting himself at every step , acknowledging his opponents. Despite differences between Ambedkar and Gandhi people like me cannot help but respect both the contemporaries because one can see the difference as a result of where they came from but what made them come together at the end was a genuine concern for empowerment for all including the most marginalised. I am mentioning Ambedkar because Sampath uses differences between Ambedkar and Gandhi throughout to justify Savarkar.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
Thank you for this comment Sujata. Exactly my thoughts on the subject. The problem as I see is not too many out there can see through Sampath's chicanery.
@@noelsushilismile7206 Can you stop pasting the same moronic comment under a fictitious name when the whole world and her uncle can tell just which side of the divide you are on.
Beautifully. Presented in fact a ber very apt. Observation
Sujata. I think Karan was one of the first journos to have interviewed sampath in the past 2 months after he wrote his book. Do see it. .of course till then these stupid blatant lies of the likes of rajnath singh hadn't been uttered !! And werent in circulation as another diversionary issue. !!
If you have to be Raj, be a Rajmohan not a Rajnath.
I like Mr. Karan Thapar's Interview topics
Savarkar was a British loyal. 6 times he pleads for release from jail
Madarsa chhaap logic as usual.
@@GSS77712 they have no logic ever.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
@@noelsushilismile7206 you are right gomuthra half knicker wallas got freedom for us
@@noelsushilismile7206 Besides, the very party was created by a British A.O. Hume. This is for all those andhachamchas who accuse other freedom fighters and nationalist as British bootlickers and give all the credit for Independence to Gandhi and Nehru.
Rajmohan Gandhi, so immaculate in his reply. Thank you!
Thank.you Karan.!! Thanks Rajmohan Gandhi very much.!!!It is crystal clear .!!
What a contrast! Gopalkrishna Gandhi cannot stop talking and Rajmohan Gandhi does not start to speak before he ends. What is more.. as Rajgopalachari's grandson, he has turned out to be far more like Gandhi than his other grandparent... thank goodness.. A pragmatic and generous man.. kind, indeed.. wonderful. Thanks for this interview..
(Oh, do stop saying.. "you have said something important.." Karan)...
Between Gandhi& Rajaji the latter was not only more brilliant, but also a visionary . Had Gandhi listened to Rajaji in1941 in regard to partition , there would not have been animosity and bloodbath between two communities which was also being fueled by the RSS , Hindu Sabha as much as Muslim League
Very intersting observation on rajgopal ...rajmohan behavioural and response and behavioural aspects
What Rajnath Singh said is equivalent to his government's claim that not an inch of India is occupied by China😂
And he has acceeded to . It by not challenging it and agreeing to it fully. By his consent through silence .
In all these years BJP ,RSS never accept that Savarkar filed mercy petition to British for his release , now they accept but put blame on Gandhi.
Called movement from denial to deflection and denouncement. ....a cowards chracter trait visible throughout .... In this man
Now at least sanghis accepted that Sawarkar wrote Mercy petition, Earlier they didn't accept after many proofs. 😄
Cpi founder also wrote these petition . many fighters wrote so that they could achieve their targets. Read vikram sampth book.
@@Luckybhai9315 But the real heroes were and are Mahatma Gandhi and Bhagatsingh for the history.
They didn't compromise self respect
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Gandhi used to sleep naked with two of his guardians/take cares
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
@@vimaladeshmukh4017 What were you doing beside them..?
An excellent interview with authentic facts. Shri Rajmohan Gandhi was as clear and unbiased as Gandhiji on various issues discussed. Thanks.
So enlightening. It strongly clears all the lies that are floating around.
The RSS & its members from the BJP have proved, if proof were needed , that the level of their education and culture are below accepted levels. In fact , these people had formed provincial governments in Sind, NWFP & Bengal in alliance with Jinnah's Muslim League
Senior Journalist Karan Thapar Jee aur Grand Son of Rashtrapita , Rajmohan Gandhi Jee ko Bahut Dhanyawad aur Shubhkamnayen .--- Aam Jan Adhikar Manch, Buxar, Bihar .
When a politician starts dabbling in history, I smell a rat. It is a thin end of the wedge. You know instinctively it is a sign of danger upstream.
When you write history, criticism is good but also justify the reason for antagonism................ Thank you RAJMOHAN SIR.
Karan asks for a brief answer and goes on to ask a lengthy question. A very good interview in any case..
Problem is mercy petions are in english, they do not understand what it means! LOL
Sir,do interview our telugu leader DR JAYA PRAKASH NARAYAN.Though he is a Telugu his view are very essential for the whole of India
Karan salute you for interviewing so nicely historian Rajmohan Gandhi
The last statement by Mr. Gandhi, to those who paid close attention, is crystal clear as to what instance of violence he was alluding to.
Gandhi's assassination.
Very well put!
Dear Karan Appreciate your deep research leading to your excellent interviews
Lovely interview ! More power to you thewire
Indians have to know their true history. Thanks for the candid interview from who else but Gandhiji’s Historian grandson.
nice to know there are still bright people around 😊 he is absolutly amazingly clear reminder how gandhiji must be in real life
Tremendous.What an insight.Least expected a man of Shri Rajnath Singh's stature to come out with his concocted version of the mercy petition filed by Mr. Savarkar to the British. Thank God we had the father of the nation fighting for independence on our side. Shudder to think what would have happened if people like Mr. savarkar & Mr. Jinnah were at the helm of affairs during our struggle for freedom. WOW.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
Thank you Sir, for making us clear understanding
What is the todays value of Rs.70.00 monthly pension British Government paid Savarkar, value of which is 5 grams gold at that point of time. For what services of Savarkar this huge pension was paid ?
Very insightful. Thank you.
Those in power think they can rewrite history. That is their folly. History has been experienced, witnessed, written about. But then why are we expecting anything better from political class?
Fine, many wrote mercy petitions.
Well then how many ppl took pension of Rs. 60 from British after the release n even wrote letters to increase the pension?
I thank God Very educated Mr. Rajmohan Gandhi is present in this world to talk about his grand father Gandhi, to the masses of India and the world.
Karan ji, Tanashah may have insisted from minister to speak in favour of Savarkar. Hence, minister has no option but to speak, if he wants to continue in ministry. Because he's in cabinet on Mercy of Tanashah and not on his merits...!!
Gomuthra guys will change history and will also tell half knicker wallas only got freedom for India
the sheer depth of fact and rigorous historic research is the finest, inarguable disinfectant. rajnath singh's lies and all of his useless IT cell bots and trolls disintegrate in the face of this brilliant interview with Mr Rajmohan Gandhi.
Savarkar was undoubtedly a charismatic person and a revolutionary in his own might and he had contributed immensely to the freedom struggle through his unparalleled literature during the first half of his life. However, after he got released from the cellular jail, his entire approach towards the freedom struggle changed and he disgracefully sided with the Britishers in the subsequent years. He also received a pension from the Britishers and even pleaded for an increement. This ultimately makes him a controversial figure at the best and a traitor at worst!!!!!
Sawarkar and Ambedkar both had their loyalties anchored to the British.
I can't believe a seasoned politician like Mr.Rajnath Sing could make such an irresponsible and unbecoming statement of the sort. And still intriguing is that whether he did so out his conviction or to Please someone for his own political survival. I am ashamed that the Indian politics has reached at the nadir of its decency. Mr.Rajnath Sing is the one among the few bjp politicians whom I respect and consider standing tall in the politics of today, but with this he has fallen to the level of his metor. Well, let it be as it is; I am so happy I could hear and see Mr Rajmohan Gandhi live and could get to know his views - an authoritative and convincing one. As Mr Thapar said, Mr Sing may be listening, and pondering upon too - I hope, in the interest of the nation.
Bring Vikram Sampath and grill him with facts
History shouldn't be "fictionalised" to satisfy the narratives of selected few. It is an injustice to the community at large and we as a citizens has duty to ask questions and corroborating facts.
For some with less than honourable motive, history must be palatable as well as presentable. With a cherry on the top, tied in pink ribbon, if you see what I mean. What is the point of history, at the end of the day, if it does not garner few bigoted votes?
Karan Thapar should also have a conversation with Saideepak and Vikram Sampath that will make things clear. Wire is always having conversation with people with same Ideology.
Stupid observation oncommwnting in idealogy when's more fundamental. Error of integrity and lies is on. Call here ..
@@sanjaygadhalay It's just a suggestion to bring on opposite views on the board as well. If wire is media it has to be impartial and should be neutral. As far as lies or truth is considered everyone hear have thier own narrative.🙂
Gandhi is basically saying that Savarkar encouraged Ghodse to kill Gandhi but ensured he was never convicted of that crime
Evident all manipulative xowards expected to behave so.
Hope BJP's new poster boy Vikram Sampath is watching this video to educate himself ????
It is foolish to believe that people like Sampath don't know the truth. Fact is their conviction to their cause, and faith in the political ideology of their choice is beyond these truths.
Wow! Poster boy. Truly, flavor of the season.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
@@noelsushilismile7206 I am not a Congress supporter.
@@SudeeptaChakraborty Sampath knows all. He is in the business now that’s why he needs to present selective narration.
I love how he refers to his grandfather as "Gandhi". No Bapu, no gandhiji or any other honorific.
Any historian worth his salt has to be laser sharp objective. There is no room for sentimentality or otherwise instead of history it he would be writing hagiography. Thank god our progeny Gandhi as a historian is maintaining some degree of decency and neutrality. Yes I love that too.
Half knowledge politicians should not be taken seriously it's humiliation of Historian
They are writing new history for their so called new India
All these controversies are deliberately brought up just to shift focus from main issues, don't follow on such issues. Stick to main issues of the day.
You are right.
Thanks Karan ji.
Waoh! Rajmohan Gandhi is 86 and active as hell!
DPSP (Directive Principles of State Policies) "राज्य के नीति निर्देशक तत्व" ही भारत की जनता का चुनावी प्रतिज्ञा/घोषणा पत्र है और भारत की हर केंद्र व राज्य सरकार इस प्रतिज्ञा पत्र को लागू करने के लिए कर्तव्य बद्ध है !
Both are not living now .Say anything as you like . Freedom of speech .
The more I come to learn of him the more I am awe-struck to realize what a colossal social reformer Gandhiji was. Probably the greatest since Raja Ram Mohan Roy and Swami Vivekananda. It also saddens me to reflect on how much more of his good work remains unfinished to this day. Nay, yet even sadder witnessing it demolished brick by brick for a handful of crummy bigoted votes.
The wire👏❤
History should be treated as an interim report and multiple versions .it's not an absolute and static ..
Sir
As a Indian we have read the history our freedom struggle.
The crucial question is why Rajnath Singh said what he said and timing of that.
Today we have understood the strategy of Modi Govt since 2014.
When ever Modi is targeted for his incompetency some minister suddenly come out and gives very absurd statement knowing that it is a lie.
Whole indian intellectuals and historians start debating on the topic and public focus is diverted from govt incompetency.
The question is will this strategy working today for modi.
I doubt it.
Sometime I think it's good when these type of claims come from some ministers people like me are more curious to know what is truth and it helps to know more about Gandhi or Nehru or Bhaghat Singh and their relationship and their struggle for freedom. Truth never die. It always comes forward one way or another.
This interview shall be made part of curriculum for students.
Thank you for this interview 👍
Rakmohan Gandhi is highly learned and direct descendant of Mahatma Gandhi.
His statement must be more reliable.
Every few days BJP floats a point for the godi media and the RUclipsrs to discuss and divert attention from the burning issues before the Nation. Different kinds of media should stick to the issues affecting the public in general.🌹🌷
Absolutely right....concentrate on so many burning issues that are being swept under the huge BJP carpet.....
Why we are ignoring early Telugu Revolutionery legendary patriot Alluri Seetharama Raju who led massive armed rebellion agaist the Britishraj between 1897 to 1924?
Very informative. Great to find more information about Gandhiji by his grandson 🙏
One thought all along was that Rajnath Singh was the only dove in this right wing BJP/RSS extremist party in govt., well how wrong can we be.
Don't call him Veer......he has done nothing to be called so
Thanks!
Great interview.sir
Thanks Mr. Gandhi for details of Sarvakar
Rajnath only said what he did because that was what Amit desired.
BJP have achieved their objective of diverting attention.
Shah is laughing while eating Dhokla. he does not care what debate the chattering classes do.
he is happy to keep throwing feed to the birds.
You are absolutely right. Raj Nath Singh would be singing “ Mera Naam Joker “ and AS must be nodding in appreciation.
It is even absurd to claim credit for 'azadi' by congress. Congress leaders never fought for azadi. They were only interested in to grab power when british wished to go. Congress got chance of azadi by Lal, Bal , Pal's movement but deliberately let it go. Congress did not support these leaders in favour of british. Another chance they got in 1921 during non cooperation movement but Gandhi stopped it in between in favour of british. 1942 Quit India was failure. I don't know how they take credit for 'azadi'. Only those faugh against british were hanged, shot dead or sent miles away from home land. No congressi or ML leader has such credit. Name one if u know?
Why press dont ask Mr Rajnath Singh the source of his comment.
The Wire must then also expose Mallikarjun Kharge's totally false claim that Dr. Ambedkar wished to add the words 'Secular' and 'Socialist' to the Preamble of the Indian Constitution, and to further the muddy claim that he was unable to do so as the 'conditions' were not conducive. This is entirely at odds with the transcript of the constituent assembly proceedings !
In fact, the suggestion to include these two words came from one Prof. K. T. Shah (representing Bihar) where he opined that 'India should be a Secular, Federal, Socialist Union of States'. Dr. Ambedkar turned down the proposal by explaining as follows ;
"What should be the policy of the State, how the Society should be organised in it's social and economic side are matters which must be decided by the people themselves according to time and circumstances. It cannot be laid down in the Constitution itself, because that is destroying democracy altogether."
Open challenge to Karan Thapar to speak with similar loudness of the false claim made by the then Leader of the Opposition. Let him also throw light for posterity as to how surreptitiously these words were inserted into the Preamble of the Indian Constitution. Dr. Ambedkar suggested that 'it must be decided by people according to time and circumstances.....'. What a wonderful time was selected, and the most opportune circumstance created to insert these words - right in midst of the bloody Emergency when all of the Opposition was jailed ! The darling Congress was yet again under foreign influence viz. the Soviets in getting these two satanic words in the Constitution which was a complete misfit to the inherent culture of India viz. Spirituality. The subsequent governments too lacked the spine in the face of the over bearing influence of the Soviets then.
The main purpose of inserted these misfit terms was to cause a cultural fracture in India. Going by the dictionary meaning of the word Secular, it means 'disconnected from religion and spirituality'. Does this sync with the inherent culture of India where the rivers of so many religions flow through since ages ?? This was outright mischievous, which formalised vote bank politics, which the Nation saw in full bloom through the overturning of the Shah Bano judgement in Parliament by none other than the 'Darling Congress'. Before this event, the word Hindutva was an unknown. The Hindus were in a state of complete 'Secular Slumber' till the 'Darling Congress' woke up the sleeping giant of Hindutva. Will Karan Thapar ever speak all of this and try to get it between his two ears that Hindutva is only a 'counter' and will remain as one as long as the Secularists whom he loves to cling by, continue with their vote bank politics. It maybe that the BJP is now doing the same thing. But, if the truth is not accepted by the 'intellectuals' there cannot be any reconciliation, which intellectuals like him should work towards. But, unfortunately the intellectuals and the Media have made the choice, been openly partisan and are just another breed of dogs barking in the streets of the Nation. Betterment can only come about when intellectuals think and act as intellectuals. Vande Mataram, Jai Hind !
Well , debate. Karnji please one more debate on today's our ground report for our Grate Nation with Rajmohanji.Wich our nation facing, so we follow Rastrapita vision with in principle of SAWIDHAN.
BJP Twisting history.
The discussion is crystal clear which is now being twisted to their favour by the present dispensation to strengthen their hindu rashtra movement now that article 370 and mandir issue is done and dusted
Ghaddar Savarkar urged the then hindu youth to fight against INA of S C Base and siding with British Army.
Le de k ek hi veer banaya uss ney bhi maafi mang lee..pension.bhi le li...kaam bhi unn k kahney par kiya...Oh yaaro kuch toh in k dard ko samjo..???
Veer Savarkar, Veer Rajnath, Veer Modi, Veer Shah and Veer RSS.
For the first time, a phrase by phrase factual rebuttal of the statement of Rajnath Singh. Without screaming and high voltage denunciations. This is how the insidious propaganda is RSS shld be countered.
Actually Rajnath Singh was trying to bring Congress and BJP together by claiming Gandhi was supportive of sarvarkar.
Also, a very fair assessment of V D S, by Mr Raj Mohan Gandhi
23.49.....is absurd savarkar worked for upliftment and eradication of caste made Patitpavan Temple where all people from all castes can visit.
Again marvellous