Extreme Garage when using hands free it will usually be setup for function of Single Tap - tone change, Hold (while siren is active) - electronic air horn (siren horn), Double Tap - for deactivation of the siren regardless of which tone is currently active. Some may also have a function where the horn can be held to act as the manual use wail or the “manual siren” with the siren inactive.
Extreme Garage Also meant to include that the “rad” function stands for radio. When a radio is connected to the siren unit this function will allow for all radio traffic to be played over the sirens speaker outside of the vehicle. (they’re usually right next to each other in most ERV’s so it’s an easy connection to wire) It can be used in a variety of scenarios, officers will occasionally use it at large party’s to help make everyone aware of their presence and allow officers to make announcements to the crowd without returning to their vehicle simply by use of their portable radio.
Yep. We called it Radio Rebroadcast. I have installed many of these in police fire and ems vehicles with my old job. I also have one in my vehicle that I use for SAR. I don't use the siren for obvious reasons being volunteer. But the horn part and the PA do come in handy. My microphone started to not work today (why I'm looking at this video). But these are good units. However, I do prefer sound off brand, but they are so expensive.
I have a 2011 crown vic with one and the mic died today, I use it to play music while in traffic since I'm on the road all day... people get a real kick out of hearing music coming from a old cop car...lol
Great to see you getting the original equipment working again. It all adds to FUJ’s period appearance and provenance. That deep note you hit just after fixing the handset (that red button?) is the one that I used to hear Manchester fire crews using to clear traffic. I think its called a Bronx Bark or Bronx Honk - I’m sure some serving firefighters will put me right on that. The name comes from where the sound originated from - New Yorks fire engines. Keep up the great work! Looking forward to seeing FUJ improve with each video. BTW: Love the sound of that engine under hard acceleration - sounds magic! There is a fire station just around the corner from where I live, so if I am able to, I always stop and listen to it going out.
Looks like your siren is a Whelen 295HF100. RAD is for "RADIO" if you wire the radio (Or any audio output really) to the siren, it will rebroadcast the radio over the PA in that mode. There should be some wires (I don't know which one) that you can hook up to external momentary switch (Usually the horn switch) that then will function the same as the "MAN" button in "HF" mode.
Just found your channel & been watching the fire engine series, just a note to say I'm glad you sorted the audio as it was frustratingly quiet up to this point (how appropriate too that you fixed the engine's audio and your video audio in the same episode haha)
If you Put it on HF and if its connected to the Horn its activated when you press the horn if you push manual button or the horn twice it will turn off
When you have the block that goes into the back of the box there is a wire as far as i can rember off hand i think its blue and that goes to the horn relay. HF stands for Hands Free so the driver dont have to take there hands off the wheel. Hope this helps
Not sure what the model of the siren is, but a lot of fire services use the traditional Whelen Alpha. However some brigades such as: The West Midlands, Northamptonshire, Kent, Oxfordshire and Staffordshire (just to name a few) do use this particular siren. Nowadays the siren is wired to the steering wheel horn 🙂
Hey man. I have something like this installed on my truck. Every mode just sounds like a beep. It's been like that for months what do you think is the problem?
Hey man, I have a whelen siren as well and had the dumbest thing of a neg./pos. wire cross for about 2 seconds and assuming fried it. I'm wondering is that repairable if that happens or is it donezo ? All fuses are fine and can't see any blown capacitors, Thanks.
Take it to an Electronics Repair Shop, like a Stereo Shop. It will be repairable, but much more complicated then "a Fuse" Probably looking at a $30-40 cost to get it right, then have him (or her) connect a permanent non reversible Plug.
1:11 rad AKA radio is for the police radio so they can listen to It using the P.A systemyou have to plug a police radio in to itits for if there in a major crime so all the ROZZERS can hear the police radio
HF stands for Hands Free and is used when the amp is connected to the horn ring-main for on/off and noise change operation.
somersetcyder Many thanks for that it makes sense now.
Extreme Garage usually they have the box on HF and have a trigger underneath the horn, so it triggers when they press the horn
Extreme Garage when using hands free it will usually be setup for function of
Single Tap - tone change,
Hold (while siren is active) - electronic air horn (siren horn),
Double Tap - for deactivation of the siren regardless of which tone is currently active.
Some may also have a function where the horn can be held to act as the manual use wail or the “manual siren” with the siren inactive.
Extreme Garage Also meant to include that the “rad” function stands for radio. When a radio is connected to the siren unit this function will allow for all radio traffic to be played over the sirens speaker outside of the vehicle. (they’re usually right next to each other in most ERV’s so it’s an easy connection to wire)
It can be used in a variety of scenarios,
officers will occasionally use it at large party’s to help make everyone aware of their presence and allow officers to make announcements to the crowd without returning to their vehicle simply by use of their portable radio.
Siren is a Whelen Beta 112, RAD stands for RADIO when fire appliances are at a scene the often play the vehicles communications radio through it.
Triple_Nine _Photos thanks for the info on model and rad meaning. I thought it was for playing music. A bit of take that relight my fire.
Yep. We called it Radio Rebroadcast. I have installed many of these in police fire and ems vehicles with my old job. I also have one in my vehicle that I use for SAR. I don't use the siren for obvious reasons being volunteer. But the horn part and the PA do come in handy.
My microphone started to not work today (why I'm looking at this video). But these are good units. However, I do prefer sound off brand, but they are so expensive.
Great videos I'm a firefighter in new Zealand loved watching you working out how the pump worked
I have a 2011 crown vic with one and the mic died today, I use it to play music while in traffic since I'm on the road all day... people get a real kick out of hearing music coming from a old cop car...lol
Great to see you getting the original equipment working again. It all adds to FUJ’s period appearance and provenance.
That deep note you hit just after fixing the handset (that red button?) is the one that I used to hear Manchester fire crews using to clear traffic. I think its called a Bronx Bark or Bronx Honk - I’m sure some serving firefighters will put me right on that.
The name comes from where the sound originated from - New Yorks fire engines.
Keep up the great work!
Looking forward to seeing FUJ improve with each video.
BTW: Love the sound of that engine under hard acceleration - sounds magic!
There is a fire station just around the corner from where I live, so if I am able to, I always stop and listen to it going out.
The pops on power-up are just due to no speaker protection relay on the amplifier
Glad to see another video 👌🏻Nice job on that Lawrence
Looks like your siren is a Whelen 295HF100. RAD is for "RADIO" if you wire the radio (Or any audio output really) to the siren, it will rebroadcast the radio over the PA in that mode. There should be some wires (I don't know which one) that you can hook up to external momentary switch (Usually the horn switch) that then will function the same as the "MAN" button in "HF" mode.
I use whelan Amber strobes and code 3 too 👍, as they are the premier American companies for your lighting needs
we used this exact siren on the old engine 41 in ventura county, california
Just found your channel & been watching the fire engine series, just a note to say I'm glad you sorted the audio as it was frustratingly quiet up to this point (how appropriate too that you fixed the engine's audio and your video audio in the same episode haha)
HF is hands free in police cars it's used to toggle the siren with the horn button on the steering wheel
If you Put it on HF and if its connected to the Horn its activated when you press the horn if you push manual button or the horn twice it will turn off
The model number is usually on a tag at the back of the unit
HF is Hands Free. Usually activated using the horn
If you Put it on HF and if its connected to the Horn Ring it as soon as you beep the horn it will activate the Siren aswell
how would you connect it to the horn
When you have the block that goes into the back of the box there is a wire as far as i can rember off hand i think its blue and that goes to the horn relay. HF stands for Hands Free so the driver dont have to take there hands off the wheel. Hope this helps
Didnt know the red horn changes now i know thanks
Not sure what the model of the siren is, but a lot of fire services use the traditional Whelen Alpha. However some brigades such as: The West Midlands, Northamptonshire, Kent, Oxfordshire and Staffordshire (just to name a few) do use this particular siren. Nowadays the siren is wired to the steering wheel horn 🙂
This is a Whelen *Beta* apparently
Hey man. I have something like this installed on my truck. Every mode just sounds like a beep. It's been like that for months what do you think is the problem?
Hey man, I have a whelen siren as well and had the dumbest thing of a neg./pos. wire cross for about 2 seconds and assuming fried it. I'm wondering is that repairable if that happens or is it donezo ? All fuses are fine and can't see any blown capacitors, Thanks.
Take it to an Electronics Repair Shop, like a Stereo Shop. It will be repairable, but much more complicated then "a Fuse" Probably looking at a $30-40 cost to get it right, then have him (or her) connect a permanent non reversible Plug.
Great video
That noise is fine it’s the amp powering up
Rad is for redio it plays it out loud on the pa system
Could you not connect those too a floor trigger like the scania’s?
Hi i have the exact same problem with my siren....
Where can i find a 3 wire hand set microphone ..
Mine is broken !!!
Thank you for a great video!
Bro can you help me plzz i got wires connection problem i have no plug from the back
We’re did you get them fro
Hello I was just wondering where did you get the British whelen siren I need one thanks
Just a normal CB mic do the job 👍🏻
Wich wires should i choose to assamble?
RAD is for your radio
That mic is an 80's CB standard
Hi-lo sadly doesn't work
1:11 rad AKA radio is for the police radio so they can listen to It using the P.A systemyou have to plug a police radio in to itits for if there in a major crime so all the ROZZERS can hear the police radio
It's true
oh boy....You should change the title of the channel to "extreme nonsense" ........
This makes perfect sense!