I had a 2023 Platinum Sequoia on order for 6 months. I wouldn’t even look at anything else. Then I saw a 2023 Expedition Timberline on my local Ford lot. I pulled in for a test drive….I drove off the lot with a new Expedition Timberline!!! It’s an incredible vehicle. Looks great inside and out, luxury, performance and very off road equipped. Love this Expedition Timberline!!!
Timberline suspension is too harsh if you are also using it as a daily driver. I consider the Ford Expedition to be better in every way, except replacing physical buttons with onscreen ones. The Sequoia excels at having big tilted buttons.
Coming from the eco boost v6. When you hit 120k you’ll be buying turbos for both vehicles. With the Toyota now you get to deal with the twin turbos going out and replacing the battery in the future…. I just dropped 8k for two new turbos and replacing timing chain. Was $8k or buy a new truck for $80,000…. This was on a 2012 f150. These will cost you $12000 to repair batteries are about $15000-$20000 to replace. 10 year financing. You’ll hit 120k in 5 years or more, warranty will be up and you will still owe $40000 on the suvs plus have to pay $10,000-$20000 to keep it going. People will trade them then the next sucker will get stuck with it. Welcome to the future…
I can't speak to the cost of repair on a Ford, but Toyota doesn't plan obsolescence in to their vehicles. They build them to last! I CAN however speak to your estimate of $15,000 to $20,000 to replace a hybrid traction battery. The traction battery is warrantied by Toyota for 10 years or 150k miles, whichever comes first. From DIRECT experience with MULTIPLE failed traction batteries on the Toyota Prius I can tell you that a complete replacement battery can be had RIGHT NOW for less than $1,200 INSTALLED. Also, where do I find this 10-year financing of which you speak? LOL! That's the ticket!
@@prslincoln cool. 7 years is A-LOT better than 10. 🤣 It was an exaggeration as the prices continue to go up the only way a NORMAL person can get these vehicles is to get payments where they can afford it by spreading out the loan as far as it will go. I don’t rem 72 months loans when I was young… hey if toyota can replace that sequoia battery for $1200 preach brother that will be amazing. I know a girl had a few years old focus with a battery. Took it to Ford with 60,000 miles. They said battery was $14000 to replace. She bought the whole car used for $11000. It was a 2014 model. Guess no warranty after car left original owner or 7 years passed so Ford said pay us $14,000 so that was putting her $25000 deep in the car. But Ford stepped in said don’t worry about the $14000 battery cost. The car is now obsolete and we don’t make that battery anymore. So now off to the land fill and scrap yard while she’s still paying her $11,000 loan. Maybe she’ll get $500-$1000 at the scrap yard. Tesla runs a cooling system around their batteries. A guy hit something in the road broke off the cooling hose inlet. Tesla said whole battery has to be replaced and it’s outta warranty. Cost $25000…. Outta pocket. My story is a combination of TYPICAL scenarios that are going to come up along with my real world experiences. I know Toyotas are reliable the 4 runners with half the room of big SUVs are double the price for the years and having 200,000k on them in the used market. Caaarazyyyyy . Many people are just stuck in their old cars for as long as they will go cause they can’t replace them when cars are nearing prices of what some owe on their homes. The reality like home prices is we are all be shuttled into an area of LEASING or RENTING your cars for life cause the majority can’t afford to own anymore.
Have an 04 Expedition still kicking and just bought a 2023 Limited Stealth Edition. Very nice and love the 12-inch monitor vs the 20 inch in the 2024. Only complaint so far is a strange rattling noise in the rear. It comes and goes and I don't know if its in the lift gate, panoramic roof of under the third row seating. Had a service appointment this morning but cancelled last night because rattling sound has mysteriously disappeared over the last two days. Word of advice if you purchase either vehicle or any of the new SUVs with all of the new tech and packages, get extended warranties bumper to bumper. There is a lot of tech in these vehicles now and when or if they break, $$$$$.......
Drove both this week. Toyotas just seem overhyped. Reliable? Yes. Modern, no. Power deliver y much better and smoother on Expedition and engine noise far less. On road performance not even close, Expo much smoother and feels smaller than it is in a good way. (Does have that super light ford steering, so some disconnection from road) Prefer the smaller screen on expedition like in xlt for the additional hard buttons. More convenient and far safer (eyes on the road and all). Building them out MAY show better pricing for Sequoia, but dealer has a $20k mark up!!! (Toyota of North Charlotte) After lots of YouTubing I have gone to buy a land cruiser, a forerunner and drove a Sequoia b/c of all the online Toyota love. But always leave disappointed after I drive them. My $.02.
As of this week, N CLT Toyota still has $20K mark up on the grey Sequoia that I saw on the lot. Have a 4Runner now and was looking for something bigger. Will probably stay with the 4Runner. Disappointed in the rear configuration of the Sequoia due to the space that the batteries take up.
I own both. Expedition is by far the better overall vehicle. The Sequoia just looks awesome. Both are the top model : Capstone for Toyota and Platinum for Ford. Functionally and features are more usable and and functional in the Ford Expedition. Power is definitely better from the Ford Expedition. I love both each in its own way but for a family usage, the Expedition is the clear choice. Fuel economy is a lie with the Toyota but more true with the Ford. The only category that the Toyota wins is the tough looks .. if you got the money for both, buy both but if you want a good, reliable and friendly to use vehicle, the Ford Expedition wins hands down. Good luck !!!
The ford 365 days a year 24/7, way better ride quality, comfort, and now reliability that was Toyota’s prize and crown which is now down the poop chute. I know our eco boost motor is better than their copy and paste version of it because mine has 107k issue free, and my friend has 315k, also issue free besides a starter and a water pump. Styling is just an opinion so that’s up to you to decide. These are my thoughts
You said Sequoia has lower base price but at 7:25 of video you can clearly see the Ford Expedition is 5k lower base price than Toyota (53k versus 58k) also you were incorrect on upper end price too since you only used upper end trim price for Toyota but for Ford you used upper end trim price then added a package to Ford only (Toyota has a package too but you didn't include it in your pricing). Other than that pricing issue, very well made and presented comparison video.
Great vid! Very disappointed with the space/configuration of the Sequoia's rear. Reason for trading my 4Runner would be for space. I think the Hybrid only option was a bad move due to the space required by the batteries. Also feel that the center console feels cheap. Sequoia is off my list. Ford has the win so far......and, so does my 2018 4Runner.
There is no comparing. Toyota has shown that they do not care about Sequoia…why? The Grand Hylander has more cargo space than the sequoia. How? Makes no sense.
Having looked at Sequoias and owning an Expedition in the past, like the Expedition. Plushier and how many cup holders in front 🤭 USB ports as well. Haul stuff more than passengers. Which one will provide best pricing and financing? Like Expedition exterior. But looks like Expedition. I have owned several models of Toyotas. They were excellent in the old days 😊
Great video George! BTW, Toyota has listened to you. They've added two rear USB-C ports on every 2023 Corolla. You've complained about the lack of rear USB ports in past videos so they listened to you!
@angeleenasworld7194 Damn Right! I'm capitalistic. I buy what's good for my money. Gm, Ford builds cars is Mexico, Europe, China, Asia, Latin America, and Canada. They don't give F about American workers! 🇺🇸 Sequoia🇺🇸
I like the old Toyota Sequoia better that has a V8 engine something goes wrong with the twin turbo or even the battery you looking at at least $10,000 if not more in repair cost
Luv expedition better!!! We still drive the 2013 expedition limited, I just luv the spaciousness and comfortable to drive. We bought it second hand though but still running good. Once we can afford to buy the new Ford expedition, I would definitely buy it !
I have the sequoia. This generation has a major vibration issue. Toyota knows about it but is trying to play it off as road feed back. Toyota quality has gone to crap. It’s a beautiful vehicle but $80k should not be vibrating down the road. Disappointment dealing with Toyota customer service to get this resolved. Vibration is so bad for some customers that they just trade in and go upside down.
You shouldn't state that the Sequoia 'still' has the solid rear axle. As you know, the previous Sequoia had an independent rear suspension. Additionally, you missed a key item in the drivetrain, the Sequoia is not available with full-time 4wd/AWD. Also, your video showed that the starting price for the Sequoia was $58k and the Expedition was $53k, and then you went on to say the Toyota wins on cheaper base price. I think the Toyota is hands-down a winner in the resale category based on reputation alone, although I've been quite disappointed with their materials quality lately. I owned a 2012 Sequoia since new (for 10 years) and now own a 2022 Sequoia TRD Pro. Can't even compare the two in terms of interior plastic quality and fit and finish. The only Toyotas that have seemed to retain their interior quality are the made-in-Japan models (4Runner and certain hybrid models). This new Sequoia / Tundra will need to earn their way into the quality pedestal, as it seems that initial quality has dropped a bit for the US, Mexico, and Canada-made Toyota vehicles.
I agree with you, I was scratching my head on his choice of pricing, the Expedition is cheaper and if you want to spend a lot more you have that option as well… Reliability for a new gen vehicle is always up for debate
The Sequoia had an independent rear suspension but decided to ditch it for the new generation. Wonder if it was removed to create space for the battery?
It was. Too many silly decisions made to not only make space for the battery, but to also have the battery inside of the vehicle instead of being lower and outside
Im sorry but Toyota Sequoia fails against the Ford Expedition when it comes to the name, offroad performance, luxury, and price. The only reason to get it would be reliability, but I doubt these new Toyotas are like the older ones.
i wonder how this guy gave point to ford in interior category when toyota is on plus side he manages to prove that ford is having extra “cargo space” but comparison was related to interior am i right..??bruh..!! are you serious…!!
Hi handsome. My complaints are the following sound noise in cabin insulation, not having double panels glass in ALL glass, not having an extra large fuel tank for a coast to coast cannonball runs. Not offering satellite service for the life of the vehicle, the sequia lacks technology equivalent to audi A8L long wheelbase. This vehicle has a poor suspension and a poor monitor, I would like to have a Samsung note 23 plus ultra 12inch screen Toyota give us what we want.
Driven a 23 Ford Expedition Platinum for a test drive, and I was very impressed the smooth ride, handling, and performance! Road across a RR crossing didn't notice the tracks! Have not driven the new Sequoia yet! That 3rd seat is very disappointing! Just looking at it! I had a 2004 Eddie Bauer Expedition, and had a 6 foot 4 passenger in the back drove it from DC to Philly! Not one time the passenger complained bout leg or head room! That's my only concern about this redesign on a $75,000 truck with no flat floor for cargo spacing, too, as well! Toyota missed the mark on that one! BIG time! I may regret it later! Expedition! WINNER!
I had a 2023 Platinum Sequoia on order for 6 months. I wouldn’t even look at anything else. Then I saw a 2023 Expedition Timberline on my local Ford lot. I pulled in for a test drive….I drove off the lot with a new Expedition Timberline!!! It’s an incredible vehicle. Looks great inside and out, luxury, performance and very off road equipped. Love this Expedition Timberline!!!
Timberline suspension is too harsh if you are also using it as a daily driver.
I consider the Ford Expedition to be better in every way, except replacing physical buttons with onscreen ones.
The Sequoia excels at having big tilted buttons.
I'll take that expedition platinum and King ranch any day
I like expedition better
Both look awesome but my heart with the Toyota!!
Coming from the eco boost v6. When you hit 120k you’ll be buying turbos for both vehicles. With the Toyota now you get to deal with the twin turbos going out and replacing the battery in the future…. I just dropped 8k for two new turbos and replacing timing chain. Was $8k or buy a new truck for $80,000…. This was on a 2012 f150. These will cost you $12000 to repair batteries are about $15000-$20000 to replace.
10 year financing. You’ll hit 120k in 5 years or more, warranty will be up and you will still owe $40000 on the suvs plus have to pay $10,000-$20000 to keep it going. People will trade them then the next sucker will get stuck with it. Welcome to the future…
Good break down
No timing belt on a 3.5 ecoboost. it's a chain...
Maybe for the Toyota but the eco boost is a very reliable engine mine has 107k and my friend has 315k on his
I can't speak to the cost of repair on a Ford, but Toyota doesn't plan obsolescence in to their vehicles. They build them to last!
I CAN however speak to your estimate of $15,000 to $20,000 to replace a hybrid traction battery. The traction battery is warrantied by Toyota for 10 years or 150k miles, whichever comes first. From DIRECT experience with MULTIPLE failed traction batteries on the Toyota Prius I can tell you that a complete replacement battery can be had RIGHT NOW for less than $1,200 INSTALLED.
Also, where do I find this 10-year financing of which you speak? LOL! That's the ticket!
@@prslincoln cool. 7 years is A-LOT better than 10. 🤣 It was an exaggeration as the prices continue to go up the only way a NORMAL person can get these vehicles is to get payments where they can afford it by spreading out the loan as far as it will go. I don’t rem 72 months loans when I was young… hey if toyota can replace that sequoia battery for $1200 preach brother that will be amazing. I know a girl had a few years old focus with a battery. Took it to Ford with 60,000 miles. They said battery was $14000 to replace. She bought the whole car used for $11000. It was a 2014 model. Guess no warranty after car left original owner or 7 years passed so Ford said pay us $14,000 so that was putting her $25000 deep in the car. But Ford stepped in said don’t worry about the $14000 battery cost. The car is now obsolete and we don’t make that battery anymore. So now off to the land fill and scrap yard while she’s still paying her $11,000 loan. Maybe she’ll get $500-$1000 at the scrap yard. Tesla runs a cooling system around their batteries. A guy hit something in the road broke off the cooling hose inlet. Tesla said whole battery has to be replaced and it’s outta warranty. Cost $25000…. Outta pocket. My story is a combination of TYPICAL scenarios that are going to come up along with my real world experiences. I know Toyotas are reliable the 4 runners with half the room of big SUVs are double the price for the years and having 200,000k on them in the used market. Caaarazyyyyy . Many people are just stuck in their old cars for as long as they will go cause they can’t replace them when cars are nearing prices of what some owe on their homes. The reality like home prices is we are all be shuttled into an area of LEASING or RENTING your cars for life cause the majority can’t afford to own anymore.
as a tundra 2nd gen owner and 2021 expedition owner, comparing the new sequoia it looks 🔥 but I'll stick with ford
Have you had any issues with Ford expedition? I’m considering getting one.
Have an 04 Expedition still kicking and just bought a 2023 Limited Stealth Edition. Very nice and love the 12-inch monitor vs the 20 inch in the 2024. Only complaint so far is a strange rattling noise in the rear. It comes and goes and I don't know if its in the lift gate, panoramic roof of under the third row seating.
Had a service appointment this morning but cancelled last night because rattling sound has mysteriously disappeared over the last two days. Word of advice if you purchase either vehicle or any of the new SUVs with all of the new tech and packages, get extended warranties bumper to bumper. There is a lot of tech in these vehicles now and when or if they break, $$$$$.......
Drove both this week. Toyotas just seem overhyped. Reliable? Yes. Modern, no. Power deliver y much better and smoother on Expedition and engine noise far less. On road performance not even close, Expo much smoother and feels smaller than it is in a good way. (Does have that super light ford steering, so some disconnection from road) Prefer the smaller screen on expedition like in xlt for the additional hard buttons. More convenient and far safer (eyes on the road and all). Building them out MAY show better pricing for Sequoia, but dealer has a $20k mark up!!! (Toyota of North Charlotte) After lots of YouTubing I have gone to buy a land cruiser, a forerunner and drove a Sequoia b/c of all the online Toyota love. But always leave disappointed after I drive them. My $.02.
4runner!! 😂
As of this week, N CLT Toyota still has $20K mark up on the grey Sequoia that I saw on the lot. Have a 4Runner now and was looking for something bigger. Will probably stay with the 4Runner. Disappointed in the rear configuration of the Sequoia due to the space that the batteries take up.
I own both. Expedition is by far the better overall vehicle. The Sequoia just looks awesome. Both are the top model : Capstone for Toyota and Platinum for Ford. Functionally and features are more usable and and functional in the Ford Expedition. Power is definitely better from the Ford Expedition. I love both each in its own way but for a family usage, the Expedition is the clear choice. Fuel economy is a lie with the Toyota but more true with the Ford. The only category that the Toyota wins is the tough looks .. if you got the money for both, buy both but if you want a good, reliable and friendly to use vehicle, the Ford Expedition wins hands down. Good luck !!!
The ford 365 days a year 24/7, way better ride quality, comfort, and now reliability that was Toyota’s prize and crown which is now down the poop chute. I know our eco boost motor is better than their copy and paste version of it because mine has 107k issue free, and my friend has 315k, also issue free besides a starter and a water pump. Styling is just an opinion so that’s up to you to decide. These are my thoughts
You said Sequoia has lower base price but at 7:25 of video you can clearly see the Ford Expedition is 5k lower base price than Toyota (53k versus 58k) also you were incorrect on upper end price too since you only used upper end trim price for Toyota but for Ford you used upper end trim price then added a package to Ford only (Toyota has a package too but you didn't include it in your pricing). Other than that pricing issue, very well made and presented comparison video.
100% ford expedition
Still prefer ford expedition
Great vid! Very disappointed with the space/configuration of the Sequoia's rear. Reason for trading my 4Runner would be for space. I think the Hybrid only option was a bad move due to the space required by the batteries. Also feel that the center console feels cheap. Sequoia is off my list. Ford has the win so far......and, so does my 2018 4Runner.
There is no comparing. Toyota has shown that they do not care about Sequoia…why? The Grand Hylander has more cargo space than the sequoia. How? Makes no sense.
Love my new expedition, it’s fun to drive
These are both great full size SUV’s, but Ford is my style. Great update Toyota
Sequoia always wins 🏆
Needs a trunk refresh already. Strikeout. Interior is garbage.
Sequoia is a gelopy 🗑️
Having looked at Sequoias and owning an Expedition in the past, like the Expedition. Plushier and how many cup holders in front 🤭 USB ports as well. Haul stuff more than passengers. Which one will provide best pricing and financing? Like Expedition exterior. But looks like Expedition. I have owned several models of Toyotas. They were excellent in the old days 😊
Great video George! BTW, Toyota has listened to you. They've added two rear USB-C ports on every 2023 Corolla. You've complained about the lack of rear USB ports in past videos so they listened to you!
Lol nice
🇺🇸🇺🇸 I'd take the Sequoia.. wish it had a XXXL rear!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
US flag and sequoia?
@angeleenasworld7194 Damn Right! I'm capitalistic. I buy what's good for my money. Gm, Ford builds cars is Mexico, Europe, China, Asia, Latin America, and Canada. They don't give F about American workers! 🇺🇸 Sequoia🇺🇸
I have a large family and have high cargo needs. Ford Expedition Max for me.
I like the old Toyota Sequoia better that has a V8 engine something goes wrong with the twin turbo or even the battery you looking at at least $10,000 if not more in repair cost
Toyota Sqouia all the way.
I'm a Toyota guy but for this model year, I would pick the Ford.
Luv expedition better!!! We still drive the 2013 expedition limited, I just luv the spaciousness and comfortable to drive. We bought it second hand though but still running good. Once we can afford to buy the new Ford expedition, I would definitely buy it !
I have the sequoia. This generation has a major vibration issue. Toyota knows about it but is trying to play it off as road feed back. Toyota quality has gone to crap. It’s a beautiful vehicle but $80k should not be vibrating down the road. Disappointment dealing with Toyota customer service to get this resolved. Vibration is so bad for some customers that they just trade in and go upside down.
You shouldn't state that the Sequoia 'still' has the solid rear axle. As you know, the previous Sequoia had an independent rear suspension. Additionally, you missed a key item in the drivetrain, the Sequoia is not available with full-time 4wd/AWD. Also, your video showed that the starting price for the Sequoia was $58k and the Expedition was $53k, and then you went on to say the Toyota wins on cheaper base price.
I think the Toyota is hands-down a winner in the resale category based on reputation alone, although I've been quite disappointed with their materials quality lately. I owned a 2012 Sequoia since new (for 10 years) and now own a 2022 Sequoia TRD Pro. Can't even compare the two in terms of interior plastic quality and fit and finish.
The only Toyotas that have seemed to retain their interior quality are the made-in-Japan models (4Runner and certain hybrid models). This new Sequoia / Tundra will need to earn their way into the quality pedestal, as it seems that initial quality has dropped a bit for the US, Mexico, and Canada-made Toyota vehicles.
I agree with you, I was scratching my head on his choice of pricing, the Expedition is cheaper and if you want to spend a lot more you have that option as well… Reliability for a new gen vehicle is always up for debate
They about to lose a lot of reputation after this gelopy they produced 😂😂
Good video thanks 👏👏👏👏😍
The Sequoia had an independent rear suspension but decided to ditch it for the new generation. Wonder if it was removed to create space for the battery?
It was. Too many silly decisions made to not only make space for the battery, but to also have the battery inside of the vehicle instead of being lower and outside
Expedition 🦾
Great job!
bro this was my first video of your channel and trust me it is totally biased and definitely this was my first and the last video.
Im sorry but Toyota Sequoia fails against the Ford Expedition when it comes to the name, offroad performance, luxury, and price. The only reason to get it would be reliability, but I doubt these new Toyotas are like the older ones.
The engine bay of the Sequioa is much more clean look than the Expedition
Sound like I’ll have to wait on sequoia. They should only offer live axle for trd/trd pro
i wonder how this guy gave point to ford in interior category when toyota is on plus side he manages to prove that ford is having extra “cargo space” but comparison was related to interior am i right..??bruh..!! are you serious…!!
Reliability should too to the Ford.
I will take ford over the Toyota
Sequoia has a solid rear axle, not a live axle btw ,George. A live axle has no differential.
My bad thanks!
Expedition is massively superior
Just don't like new tech. With a hybrid, would have me on edge. But so does the auto stop and ten speed trans on the expedition.
which one r u going to be going to the mechanic every month and going back to the dealership for recalls !
Ford Expedition...
Toyota win👍
ford bc my family needs the extra space on the third row even tho it is a toyota still gotta go with ford and bigger trunk behind the third row
FORD TRUCKS AND SUV ALL DAY AMERICAN BUILD, but cars vans and hybrid Toyota all DAY!!!!
EXPEDITION ALL DAY
SeKoYa, SeKoYa
Don’t buy a vehicle that size and worry about fuel consumption. Just my thoughts. Want a fuel sipper? Buy a Corolla.
So Sequoia is more like BTC and Expedition is more like ETH? 🤣🤣
I’m not doing any hybrid nor electric
Two massive Units ……🎃
Ford Expedition for the 🏆 ✌️ 💪 Toyota sucks 👎
I would buy Toyota
Hi handsome. My complaints are the following sound noise in cabin insulation, not having double panels glass in ALL glass, not having an extra large fuel tank for a coast to coast cannonball runs. Not offering satellite service for the life of the vehicle, the sequia lacks technology equivalent to audi A8L long wheelbase. This vehicle has a poor suspension and a poor monitor, I would like to have a Samsung note 23 plus ultra 12inch screen Toyota give us what we want.
George!??
Fix
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Repair
Daily
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Toyota F'ed up big going v6 and turbos and electric. Guaranteed to break and suck just way too many moving parts and electronics. Sad
Hybrid? I’ll pass.
This sounds like crypto George.
The new Sequoia sucks!!! They messed it up in more than one way.
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Get more for your money from the Toyota? It doesn't offer half the features
The Toyota loses badly without even needing to watch the video
The domestics are winning left and right
U wish 😂😂the domestics haven’t been able to make a good car since the 50’s 😂😂😂
@@dynamicremakes5592 When you have to throw in a 😂 emoji to support your own wild claim, you might just be a 🤡
@@dynamicremakes5592 nah bro. Domestics have caught up.....and I love Yotas.
Driven a 23 Ford Expedition Platinum for a test drive, and I was very impressed the smooth ride, handling, and performance! Road across a RR crossing didn't notice the tracks! Have not driven the new Sequoia yet! That 3rd seat is very disappointing! Just looking at it! I had a 2004 Eddie Bauer Expedition, and had a 6 foot 4 passenger in the back drove it from DC to Philly! Not one time the passenger complained bout leg or head room! That's my only concern about this redesign on a $75,000 truck with no flat floor for cargo spacing, too, as well! Toyota missed the mark on that one! BIG time! I may regret it later! Expedition! WINNER!
Toyota VS Ford??? Lol, okay….
Toyato
Expedition for me.