Please just ask if you've any questions? Don't forget the full categorised index of all my videos at www.northlight-images.co.uk/keith-cooper-photography-videos-index/ If you'd like to make a small donation towards my testing, I have a Kofi page: "Buy me a coffee" ko-fi.com/keithcooper. Buying stuff? I also have some affiliate links which earn me a small commission if used. US Amazon photo/print gear: amzn.to/3l9vJC6 B&H Photo: www.bhphotovideo.com/?BI=2008&KBID=2711&DFF=d10-v1-t8-x4 Adorama: www.adorama.com/?
Thanks - I'm considering this... It will initially be an article on BPC, since the topic is far too complex for one of my unscripted videos. Once I'm happy that it is complete and detailed enough and that I really understand all the aspects of it, I'll think about doing a summary on video. There are for example several different 'types' of BPC and historically the Canon PPL implementation didn't match what Adobe did, or what was done in some icc profiling packages. It is a book chapter of a subject ;-)
Another great presentation. Many of your observations can be applied to smaller printers as well. Thanks again Keith for your valuable time and contribution to the photography world.
Well, Keith, compared to our sRGB 3*8=24 RGB monitors doing JPEG, your review of this Can(n)on got delivered in ProPhoto and 3*32=96 - and I loved every "bit" of it.
Thanks for the video Keith. I have various 17x25 papers from Red River and what I like about that size for me is you can easily trim it to 16x24 and you have a borderless print and frames, glass etc. is readily available and you don't need to print it borderless. I have the Canon Pro 1000.
The Red River Duro Soft Gloss Rag is a wonderful paper. If the Big Bend Baryta is too glossy, Red River also sells Palo Duro Baryta Fiber 310 that is less glossy but retains the contrast and tones that makes Baryta papers wonderful.
Great!! I am just learning this (1100) new printer and am experimenting with various papers. I want to try and stick with a single manufacturer or two. RR Paper has done a really good job as far as I can tell this early into my time with this printer ... and them. GREAT packaging BTW!!
Oh that's interesting & significant! Different ICC profiles will have OR not have Black Point Compensation built-in so not to be re-applied when printing! I hadn't realised that, although it sounds like it's only ICC profiles that are built with a perceptual colour rendering? Will be interested in the BPC article once you've done it Keith :) thanks as ever!
The soft gloss looks fantastic, very much visible when you 1st held them up together before inserting the close ups. As for my printing i outsource to my local framing & printing company which costs me $20 aud for A3 and $30 aud for A2, and have found for my milkyway nightscapes and general floral images that the ilford smooth pearl Galerie paper they use is perfect but they were kind enough to tell me what model printer they use so i could download the icc for that paper/printer combination. Now i choose to go that path purely and simply because i don't sell a lot of prints(maybe 5 a yr) to warrant purchasing a printer, that in itself is a catch 22 though as the reason i possibly don't sell many per year could be due to my pricing which reflects the outsourcing and if i did have my own printer my pricing and overall outlay would be less
Depends on your circumstances - there is the issue of custom duties in some countries as well though. It's why I rarely track prices outside of the UK - things change a lot.
Are these Canon 1100's going to be available soon? They seem to be "sold out" every place I've looked, not sure if that is true or if they are still merely sending them out for user testing. Would have been an idea to have the lot available for Christmas. Very frustrating. Love the videos, I am learning a tremendous amount from your site, Keith. Thanks so much.
Thanks - as far as I know it is a shipping product. That said, I don't have any connection with selling them, so I'm not up to date on the supply side.
When we talk about "regular use", does the size of the print make a difference? Could I get by with regularly printing some smaller 4x6s or 5x7s when I don't have larger images to print? Since this is a side gig (or money pit, depends on when....) I'm not going always print very large, but I think can regularly have a stream of much smaller prints. I'm fine with a bit of "wastage", I mostly just want to keep things happy and clean. I'm strongly considering replacing my PRO-100 (~12 years old) with a PRO-1000 or PRO-1100. I haven't much as much of a regular printer as I'd have liked, but definitely getting back into it. I'm personally not excessively concerned about the cost differences between say the -300, -1000, and -1100 since there's some decent deals right now and I'm fairly certain I'd really like to be able to print 17x25s and pano prints. I'm just not the type of person to regularly go out have order prints... Costs be dammed, I just want to experiment and explore! ;) Many thanks for all the years of information, and what feels like an increasingly rapid stream of very useful videos! ;)
Regular use is just that - I use a nozzle check on plain paper if there's nothing 'needs' printing - a small print is just as good as a large one in this respect.
re: the the pace of videos? I've lots of stuff to look at at the moment, but the current few weeks are absolutely peak ad revenue times on YT - an extra few videos makes a hefty up-tick in earnings - enough to 'pay for' Christmas when the main business has been a bit slow ;-)
@@KeithCooper Awesome, thanks for the confirmation! It's a nice boost of confidence. :) And, absolutely nothing wrong with more videos. In fact, it's great, and they're all very informative. Whatever it takes to keep the business going! Been reading the web site off and on for quite a while, and I did recently pick up your Tilt Shift book, too.
Great video - thank you! You mention using the front panel to doubly confirm the paper size and media type settings. I"m having a problem with that and wonder if you've experienced the same thing. Using Hahnemuehle Fine Art Baryta Satin paper placed in the rear manual feed, icc profile set. Hahnemuehle recommends using the Baryta Paper media type so I put the paper in the manual feed slot (fully in past the roller), enter 17 x 25 for size and Baryta Paper on the front panel, then select "Register." The panel briefly indicates that it is setting the manual feed info, then reverts to the Select screen with Top Feed/Any size/Pro Luster as defaults before I can print from the computer. Have you seen this? It's not clear that the rear feed input values will actually be used when printing. I agree with you that the user interface is lacking in user friendliness, especially after such a long period since the release of the PRO-1000.
Thank you Keith! Made my morning when I saw this. I am having a bit of confusion when using Canon PPL. Can you point me to a specific video that may help, I have tried installing the RR Paper ICC AND their AM1X files and find it difficult to really understand the correct procedure. I have installed several of the Re River AM1X files into my 1100 (installed with the Canon Media Configutation Tool) expecting that to be reflected in the PPL interface as Media Type but... it's not, and I get a "Paper Mismatch" on the printer's LCD? No doubt I have something wrong but I'm left scratching my head...
Ah - why I'll not do AM1X files ;-) Don't forget that the printer driver on your machine has to be updated too - I'd just use the icc and the recommended media type for the profile/paper. If you're having difficulties with the particular AM1X files - see the RR info about them and maybe ask how they set them up?
Thank you Keith, This video brought up something I have been thinking about. How does one keep their 'photo system' in sync? What I mean is that one has a camera with a dynamic range and colour space. The image image then goes into editing software, and then to a printer which prints the image on a given paper. All which may have different dynamic ranges and treat colours differently. So, I guess what I am asking is : how does one insure the image taken in the camera ends up being the image on a print? Thank you !!
Thanks. That, for me, is one of the key benefits of colour management - it can help tie all those aspects together. Makes things more predictable, and when stuff goes 'wrong' it helps find out why. With printing though, a lot depends on seeing the print as the final result and accepting that screens, prints and 'what you see' are three very different things.
@@picturetaker607 Usually TPS [Focus as was] in Birmingham But that's moving to London next year, so I suspect not that one unless I'm being paid to speak ;-) :-)
Keith, could you print a few of the same images on the pro-1100 and the ET-8550 and compare them so that we get a better understanding of what the additional inks actually buy you. Perhaps you need to print an image with an extended gamut and/or images with subtle color variations. Thanks
Likely not [well, not in a technical manner ;-) ] It won't easily show, in any meaningful way, in a video I'm minded to suggest. There is a lot more to it than 'more inks' - which is always a simplification when comparing printers. I don't really ever like doing comparisons between two such dissimilar products - there are too many variables and dependencies. I'm not minded to supply what will easily be taken as simple answers to complex questions. Expertly produced prints on the right paper, with a good profile on the 8550 can 'beat' prints on the 1100 produced without skill and experience ;-) Much like cameras - it can take some effort to show where a more expensive one shines ;-)
Thanks for a great video. I’m thinking of buying this printer but how often would I have to use it to keep it happy and without having to clean it all the time?
Moving from Epson P800, the feature I like most about this printer is the ability to download AM1X file from Red River etc. to the printer and then select that on the panel when I load the paper. Then it will show up to the Canon driver and show up in software, even 3rd party like Qimage. The printer will then squawk at you if there is a mismatch. Saving WTF moments. The AM1X files do more than define color profile. They tweak ink and print head behavior. So I would only buy a paper that has a profile for this printer.
Glad it works for you. I have reservations, as outlined in the main written review. I would not personally use it - but then again I make my own profiles. I find the whole system somewhat clunky and user unfriendly
Which file format do you recommend for exporting from your editing package to the printing software? As I don’t use PS I can’t export directly - so choices would be JPEG (100% quality), TIFF, PNG etc.
I like to get 8x10 version of a bigger paper and print a section of a photo with 1" border (so 6x8) on the 8x10 at equivalent resolution to ensure I don't need to punch something up or screwed up settings.
How do you know what media setting to use? Does the software or the paper come with that information? I always used to get caught up with that when I was printing many years ago on an Epson 13x19 printer I don’t remember which model. I have memory and cognitive issues due to a medical condition…. Thanks for all your videos and detailed information.
Yes - the paper supplier will usually give this info. With RR papers there is an info sheet in the box of paper. I also write it on the box to remind me [just lots of papers here, after years of testing!]
A2+ size. Makes a lot more sense than A2. A 17" roll makes the most sense. Cheaper and more usable than A2+. Use this to make it flat: dkgroup print-de-rollers
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Please just ask if you've any questions? Don't forget the full categorised index of all my videos at www.northlight-images.co.uk/keith-cooper-photography-videos-index/ If you'd like to make a small donation towards my testing, I have a Kofi page: "Buy me a coffee" ko-fi.com/keithcooper.
Buying stuff? I also have some affiliate links which earn me a small commission if used.
US Amazon photo/print gear: amzn.to/3l9vJC6
B&H Photo: www.bhphotovideo.com/?BI=2008&KBID=2711&DFF=d10-v1-t8-x4
Adorama: www.adorama.com/?
How long will unused photo paper last?.
@@douglax2248 Stored in good conditions, decades
Great video Keith. Very interesting and lots of helpful tips. A detailed video on Black Point Compensation and Canon PPL would be appreciated.
Thanks - I'm considering this...
It will initially be an article on BPC, since the topic is far too complex for one of my unscripted videos.
Once I'm happy that it is complete and detailed enough and that I really understand all the aspects of it, I'll think about doing a summary on video.
There are for example several different 'types' of BPC and historically the Canon PPL implementation didn't match what Adobe did, or what was done in some icc profiling packages.
It is a book chapter of a subject ;-)
Another great presentation. Many of your observations can be applied to smaller printers as well.
Thanks again Keith for your valuable time and contribution to the photography world.
Thanks!
I do hope people see those parallels sometimes.
Well, Keith, compared to our sRGB 3*8=24 RGB monitors doing JPEG, your review of this Can(n)on got delivered in ProPhoto and 3*32=96 - and I loved every "bit" of it.
Thanks
Learned a lot again, esp Dynamic Range of papers. Thanks!
Thanks - glad it was of interest.
Thanks for the video Keith. I have various 17x25 papers from Red River and what I like about that size for me is you can easily trim it to 16x24 and you have a borderless print and frames, glass etc. is readily available and you don't need to print it borderless. I have the Canon Pro 1000.
Yes, a useful size and avoids the need for cropping for borderless.
Very impressive tutorial: chapeau!
Glad you liked it!
The Red River Duro Soft Gloss Rag is a wonderful paper. If the Big Bend Baryta is too glossy, Red River also sells Palo Duro Baryta Fiber 310 that is less glossy but retains the contrast and tones that makes Baryta papers wonderful.
Thanks - there was a limit to how much they could ship over the Atlantic ;-)
Great!! I am just learning this (1100) new printer and am experimenting with various papers. I want to try and stick with a single manufacturer or two. RR Paper has done a really good job as far as I can tell this early into my time with this printer ... and them. GREAT packaging BTW!!
Oh that's interesting & significant! Different ICC profiles will have OR not have Black Point Compensation built-in so not to be re-applied when printing! I hadn't realised that, although it sounds like it's only ICC profiles that are built with a perceptual colour rendering? Will be interested in the BPC article once you've done it Keith :) thanks as ever!
Yes it also depends on just which software developer's version/interpretation of BPC is in play at the time... ;-)
thanks for sharing
Thanks
The soft gloss looks fantastic, very much visible when you 1st held them up together before inserting the close ups. As for my printing i outsource to my local framing & printing company which costs me $20 aud for A3 and $30 aud for A2, and have found for my milkyway nightscapes and general floral images that the ilford smooth pearl Galerie paper they use is perfect but they were kind enough to tell me what model printer they use so i could download the icc for that paper/printer combination. Now i choose to go that path purely and simply because i don't sell a lot of prints(maybe 5 a yr) to warrant purchasing a printer, that in itself is a catch 22 though as the reason i possibly don't sell many per year could be due to my pricing which reflects the outsourcing and if i did have my own printer my pricing and overall outlay would be less
Thanks - I'm never sure how stuff will look once YT has compressed the video!
@@KeithCooper you're welcome, hopefully you'll catch that I edited my comment
@@robertleeimages Yes - good observations
@@KeithCoopermind you i honestly don't think $100 aud(A3) and $140 aud(A2) including shipping worldwide is expensive
Depends on your circumstances - there is the issue of custom duties in some countries as well though. It's why I rarely track prices outside of the UK - things change a lot.
Are these Canon 1100's going to be available soon? They seem to be "sold out" every place I've looked, not sure if that is true or if they are still merely sending them out for user testing. Would have been an idea to have the lot available for Christmas. Very frustrating. Love the videos, I am learning a tremendous amount from your site, Keith. Thanks so much.
Thanks - as far as I know it is a shipping product. That said, I don't have any connection with selling them, so I'm not up to date on the supply side.
When we talk about "regular use", does the size of the print make a difference? Could I get by with regularly printing some smaller 4x6s or 5x7s when I don't have larger images to print?
Since this is a side gig (or money pit, depends on when....) I'm not going always print very large, but I think can regularly have a stream of much smaller prints. I'm fine with a bit of "wastage", I mostly just want to keep things happy and clean.
I'm strongly considering replacing my PRO-100 (~12 years old) with a PRO-1000 or PRO-1100. I haven't much as much of a regular printer as I'd have liked, but definitely getting back into it.
I'm personally not excessively concerned about the cost differences between say the -300, -1000, and -1100 since there's some decent deals right now and I'm fairly certain I'd really like to be able to print 17x25s and pano prints. I'm just not the type of person to regularly go out have order prints... Costs be dammed, I just want to experiment and explore! ;)
Many thanks for all the years of information, and what feels like an increasingly rapid stream of very useful videos! ;)
Regular use is just that - I use a nozzle check on plain paper if there's nothing 'needs' printing - a small print is just as good as a large one in this respect.
re: the the pace of videos? I've lots of stuff to look at at the moment, but the current few weeks are absolutely peak ad revenue times on YT - an extra few videos makes a hefty up-tick in earnings - enough to 'pay for' Christmas when the main business has been a bit slow ;-)
@@KeithCooper Awesome, thanks for the confirmation! It's a nice boost of confidence. :)
And, absolutely nothing wrong with more videos. In fact, it's great, and they're all very informative. Whatever it takes to keep the business going! Been reading the web site off and on for quite a while, and I did recently pick up your Tilt Shift book, too.
@@_mball_ Excellent - have a new shift lens video tomorrow
@@KeithCoopergood to hear this is profitable for you. I watch a lot of your videos and you’re putting in loads of work.
Thanks a lot. Specially your comment that you avoided focus stacking. I think often it is overused. Take care, Göran in Latvia
Thanks - glad it made sense!
Great video - thank you! You mention using the front panel to doubly confirm the paper size and media type settings. I"m having a problem with that and wonder if you've experienced the same thing. Using Hahnemuehle Fine Art Baryta Satin paper placed in the rear manual feed, icc profile set. Hahnemuehle recommends using the Baryta Paper media type so I put the paper in the manual feed slot (fully in past the roller), enter 17 x 25 for size and Baryta Paper on the front panel, then select "Register." The panel briefly indicates that it is setting the manual feed info, then reverts to the Select screen with Top Feed/Any size/Pro Luster as defaults before I can print from the computer. Have you seen this? It's not clear that the rear feed input values will actually be used when printing. I agree with you that the user interface is lacking in user friendliness, especially after such a long period since the release of the PRO-1000.
Yes - the rear feed media interface is clunky.
I noticed this sometimes, but in general it worked
Thank you Keith! Made my morning when I saw this. I am having a bit of confusion when using Canon PPL. Can you point me to a specific video that may help, I have tried installing the RR Paper ICC AND their AM1X files and find it difficult to really understand the correct procedure. I have installed several of the Re River AM1X files into my 1100 (installed with the Canon Media Configutation Tool) expecting that to be reflected in the PPL interface as Media Type but... it's not, and I get a "Paper Mismatch" on the printer's LCD? No doubt I have something wrong but I'm left scratching my head...
Ah - why I'll not do AM1X files ;-)
Don't forget that the printer driver on your machine has to be updated too - I'd just use the icc and the recommended media type for the profile/paper.
If you're having difficulties with the particular AM1X files - see the RR info about them and maybe ask how they set them up?
Thank you Keith, This video brought up something I have been thinking about. How does one keep their 'photo system' in sync? What I mean is that one has a camera with a dynamic range and colour space. The image image then goes into editing software, and then to a printer which prints the image on a given paper. All which may have different dynamic ranges and treat colours differently. So, I guess what I am asking is : how does one insure the image taken in the camera ends up being the image on a print? Thank you !!
Thanks. That, for me, is one of the key benefits of colour management - it can help tie all those aspects together. Makes things more predictable, and when stuff goes 'wrong' it helps find out why.
With printing though, a lot depends on seeing the print as the final result and accepting that screens, prints and 'what you see' are three very different things.
@@KeithCooper Do you ever go to any photo shows? Would be nice to bump into you one day.
@@picturetaker607 Usually TPS [Focus as was] in Birmingham
But that's moving to London next year, so I suspect not that one unless I'm being paid to speak ;-) :-)
Keith, could you print a few of the same images on the pro-1100 and the ET-8550 and compare them so that we get a better understanding of what the additional inks actually buy you. Perhaps you need to print an image with an extended gamut and/or images with subtle color variations. Thanks
Likely not [well, not in a technical manner ;-) ]
It won't easily show, in any meaningful way, in a video I'm minded to suggest. There is a lot more to it than 'more inks' - which is always a simplification when comparing printers.
I don't really ever like doing comparisons between two such dissimilar products - there are too many variables and dependencies.
I'm not minded to supply what will easily be taken as simple answers to complex questions.
Expertly produced prints on the right paper, with a good profile on the 8550 can 'beat' prints on the 1100 produced without skill and experience ;-)
Much like cameras - it can take some effort to show where a more expensive one shines ;-)
Thanks for a great video. I’m thinking of buying this printer but how often would I have to use it to keep it happy and without having to clean it all the time?
I'd set a diary reminder [for a nozzle check on plain paper] for every 2-3 weeks, just in case I'd not printed something
@@KeithCooper so doing that will be enough even if i dont do any big prints for a few months?
@@martinm4712 More than enough - just don't switch it off and unplug it! [cleaning ink waste]
@@KeithCooper Thanks Keith! 🙂
Moving from Epson P800, the feature I like most about this printer is the ability to download AM1X file from Red River etc. to the printer and then select that on the panel when I load the paper. Then it will show up to the Canon driver and show up in software, even 3rd party like Qimage. The printer will then squawk at you if there is a mismatch. Saving WTF moments. The AM1X files do more than define color profile. They tweak ink and print head behavior. So I would only buy a paper that has a profile for this printer.
Glad it works for you.
I have reservations, as outlined in the main written review.
I would not personally use it - but then again I make my own profiles. I find the whole system somewhat clunky and user unfriendly
Will the Pro-1000 also print 17x25?
Yes, with the current firmware
Which file format do you recommend for exporting from your editing package to the printing software? As I don’t use PS I can’t export directly - so choices would be JPEG (100% quality), TIFF, PNG etc.
JPEG 100% is just fine.
I like to get 8x10 version of a bigger paper and print a section of a photo with 1" border (so 6x8) on the 8x10 at equivalent resolution to ensure I don't need to punch something up or screwed up settings.
Yes, lots of ways of approaching these requirements
How do you know what media setting to use? Does the software or the paper come with that information? I always used to get caught up with that when I was printing many years ago on an Epson 13x19 printer I don’t remember which model. I have memory and cognitive issues due to a medical condition…. Thanks for all your videos and detailed information.
Yes - the paper supplier will usually give this info. With RR papers there is an info sheet in the box of paper. I also write it on the box to remind me [just lots of papers here, after years of testing!]
Thanks.
A2+ size. Makes a lot more sense than A2. A 17" roll makes the most sense. Cheaper and more usable than A2+. Use this to make it flat: dkgroup print-de-rollers
I don't do enough prints at this size to bother with de-curling devices - a table and some very big books do the work ;-)