My SIM World will never be the same with the Qubic System QS-210 motion platform!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- This is the most simple, with the fastest response time and the best sim motion experience I ever had in any simulation I have ever tested.
Qubic System have done something I believed for years is NOT possible so the QS-210 motion platform and is made for home use! The sim racing world will never be the same for me in all of my favorite titles like iRacing, Assetto Corsa Competizione, rFactor 2 and all other racing or flight simulators !
Find about the Qubic System- qubicsystem.com/
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It takes me only 5 years to save the money for this, looks like i'm iracing with motion before my 40 year birthday 🎉🎉😢
Hands down best sim channel on you tube!!!!! I love the way your mind works in such a left of centre and inquisitively creative way.
Much love brother 🍻
Thanks for the kind words 🤗
The fact, that your real safetynetis synced to the ingame one, hits me. Amazing!
It is mind blowing how the movements match 😮
Can you make a test with VR? Especially abouy their vr compensation and how the real "violent" movement can effect the headsets panels postion compared to your head. My varjo aero weights less than 500g but if i move in my seat up and down rather fast like in your setup, it moves about which breaks immersion.
I will try to get Varjo and I have the Valve Index here to see how the software manages those movements!
It promises a lot but must test to see how it really works and feels
@@chepilevski i came from a valve index and i didnt expect much from my 3090 rtx but it can run the Aero at its max in AC, thats 4000x3500 res true to life pixel density! In race(10 cars) i have to turn it down to "normal" which is still good. It takes a week to get used to the smaller Hov. The really small Vov is not an issue in sim racing. Their software is really well optimized. At that high native res there is no need for AA or any prossesioning so its more effcient. I would love to step up to Qubic's system but it need to be bullet proof for VR as i am a die hard VR sim racer.
Excellent review as always! This is way out of my price range, though it seems awesome, I thought the Pokornyi LMP wheel was over the top overpriced, but now I'v almost talked myself into one?! Thanks again
I really wish one day that tech will be affordable enough for more of us the mortals man 🤗
It really brings the experience to different level 😃
If you go for the Pokornyi, you will love it 💪
I have been building motion systems for over 10 years and agree that speed and accurate tracking is very important. After trying many designs including a stewart platform, finished up building a system which is a hybrid (3 x actuators/G systems) with high powered (1.8KW) 500mmsec actuators that are designed to be stationary/dyno bolted to my garage floor. Therefore only the cockpit moves for minimum inertia. For vision: fixed 3 x 4K 50 inch monitors - also have VR with motion cancellation (wit sensor). If I turn the actuators up they can rattle my teeth and re-adjust my spine 🙂. For long sway and surge, I use a active Harness and seat back driven by quiet DC motors. The whole cockpits roll center can also be adjusted. Good to see that you have lowered your seat for a better roll center, as many get this wrong. All the best and for people who can not build their own the cubic system looks the business👍.
Owning a full 3DOF VR rig myself i totally agree with everything you say... its another world . I have ordered a Full motion rig meaning 6DOF where you can feel the power of G-force in all dimensions. Its a self build so it will take me a few months. However if you are interested a full build video will be out there soon. ;-)
Oh definitely brother 😃
I would love to see your work 💪
Interested to hear your opinion switching from 3dof to 6dof. I heard a significant amount of people saying that 6dof doesn't really add anything valuable to the driving feeling and they gone back to 3dof. Cheers.
@nclabs5957 and right you are....I think that 3dof is more then enough for racing. However I will be using the 6dof for flightsims and specifically for helicopter. That said yep of course I will be racing with it and tell you all about it. I think racing a dune buggy will be awesome in it. But just racing on a flat surface will add noting more. 👍 sub so find out..😉
What if I told you I have all you are talking about but even better in my motion platform? Beside perfectly simulating fast moving forces I am also able to simulate forces that last longer, like acceleration and deceleration. Feel free to come to Croatia to test it.
Sounds exciting buddy 💪
I ingnore all of these fantasy 30k Sim-Racing Hardware channels.
No normal person who has a family and sim-races can even consider spending 2k for a pedal, 3k for a steering wheel, 10k for motion sim parts and all the monitor amd PC up grades to make it all work.
GTFO
That’s absolutely fine buddy!
Just make sure to chase your personal priorities and stay away from people like us 🤛
Everyone is free to decide what drives he’s motivation 🍻
I honestly can't take this guy seriously.
The very cryptic music and weird Art-house production and very slow talking just kills anything he may be knowledgeable about on-topic.
The beauty of life those days is we can choose out of so many options out there buddy 💪
Hope you never cross again this channel and find what drives you up and gives you joy 🍻
I’m not offended at all as I totally understand how different we all are and enjoy and value different things !
Have a wonderful day and keep chasing the important things for you 💪
Amazing videos - is it possible to make a complete Google Excel list of all the parts and your Rig? ...and you can update that for us from time to time
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Hey, that is wonderful idea buddy! I must do that for sure 🍻
I am usually not the guy that comments on a lot of YT Videos, but this one definitely deserves a comment. I am thinking of getting a platform motion system for the past 3-4y (owner of a 2dof seat mover right now) and this system and your concept sounds so interessting. You are actually the first guy I am hearing to say that even though your body is fixed with the seatbelts in a real car, that there is still movement going on, what makes a complete stable system also not 100% accurate and this is also why I kind of like my seat mover system. I am really excited for your build videos and your DIY ideas. Brilliant content as always. Keep up the great work and I really hope to meet you one day on the simexpo, but I couldn't make it this year unfortunately :(
Thanks for the supportive words buddy!
Honestly, the way I set this I personally first time felt totally connected to what is happening and actually understanding the feedback coming from it!
I’ve tested on the expo again many rigs and some with the same actuators and felt disconnected again!
I wish it was simple to be tested but as you have the seat mover you understand what I’m talking about!
@@chepilevskiHi , I would love to test your settings for iracing and RFactor2. There is now a way to share your profile to the qubic community,directly from qubic manager. Thanks in advance!
Damn you clickbaited me! Lol great video still but i expected to see that spaceship lookimg thing.
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Sorry bro 🫢🤗
Such an amazing video; thank you for the great content. Is 3DOF enough for Simaracing? Does it simulate traction loss? Would a 6DOF provide a noticeable difference?
I still can't believe motion platform with detached monitors - can make it more immersive. For me it can only distract and 'steal' feeling from FFB.
Anyway your review makes me want this platform for a test )
Ah noo, ideally will be to attach everything but that is way too hard to be achieved with triple screen setup!
For me the way i did it is the second best as I hate to see motion moves with the base , wheel and gears but the monitors stay in fixed position 🙈
It distracts my vision a lot
Someone, please develop technology to simulate G forces directly in your brain, so I can cut this crap.
Wow, imagine if that happens man 😃
I will be the first to plug my brain in the matrix 😁
You are the only one of the more gear centric channels that does not simply go for the latest hardware because it exists but you actually ask the question of "what am I trying to achieve here".
After your FOV video from a while ago this one is another out of the box thing that sounds wrong at first, but after giving it some thought it makes complete sense!
Never would have thought to move the seat only and leave the rest fixed, but in a normal car, the movement of the car is kinda secondary to your own movement in relation to your car.
I know many people will cancel that before even test it but man, I feel first time fully connected to motion sim rig without my brain telling me something is off and try to figure out what the problem is!
When I was explaining to my friends here what my idea is everyone was telling me it doesn’t sound right but when they seat and actually drive the rig I was hearing only WOW expression 🤣
I spend like a month exploring what happens to my body in the real car and make so much sense to build it that way , but when I tested it for first time and work a bit with the pitch and roll movements to not throw me around unrealistically like in a boat going trough storm even I surprised myself with the result 🤣
@@chepilevski The boat analogy fits well 😂
Are the pedals connected to the motion rig or the wheel?
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Yes buddy, the pedals and the seat are the parts connected to the motion !
You make a good point on explaining how we all differently react to motion cues and personally my sfx100 with traction loss and belt tensioner works best when wheel and pedals are on the same frame. But i also have to say, this is overpriced for 3dof, especially if you consider getting completed sfx150 sets now with sim racing studio for a fraction.
First great vídeo it's amazing this smi rig with DOF but i new in this ionly have the Mony for one wheel base what your recomend idk what wheel base You use
the humain brain can absolutely not perceive just a maximum of 60 frames per second, what? we dont see in frames per second and you can absolutely tell the difference between higher framerate monitors very easily
Holy shit! may I be your friend? hahaha Incredible setup, greetings from Spain!
The shot with the safety nets at 3:44? to demonstrate how the system keeps up with the virtual world was amazing!
It’s crazy man🙈 wen I saw that first time blown my mind 😮
I felt connected from the firs try but didn’t know this can be even possible for the actuators to keep up with all those movements 😃
Congratulations, I find your choice of keeping the wheelbase fixed very interesting. As you mention, it provides your brain with the information of the relative position between your body and the wheel. A couple of questions:
1. Why did you choose to keep the pedal base on the motion instead of fixed like the wheel ?
2. What solution did you adopt to ensure that the frame that holds the wheel doesn’t flex and move ?
Hey man🤛
The logic told me must be good choice but the results where really even better then I expected and everyone who tested it was surprised how natural feels!
One hidden advantage with the new belt tensioner was that now in hard braking, my elbow angle doesn’t changes at all 😃
I never thought to set the pedals static as in the real car our feet are touching down the chassis of the car as support point but the torso of the body is moving trough the forces against the seat and belts.
The wheel base it doesn’t move because is attached together with monitor stand, passenger area and goes around the moving rig which seems to be enough to keep it absolutely stable 🤛
Man I can’t stop watching your vids they’re so good man
Thx buddy 🍻😃
Now that your safety nets move, it's even harder to tell you're not in an actual car! Amazing!
Thx buddy 🍻
congratulations I really like your channel and your way of being, I wish you much more success, greetings from Mexico
Big hug from Europe brother 🍻
Muchas Gracias 😃
Another top class video. Great to hear you embracing motion and I like the way you are disconnecting the wheelbase from the motion to get the best view, which always looks stunning in your videos.
Thanks man 🍻
Cool stuff. Only a matter of time they will get the price down on motion rigs.
Absolutely man💪
The tech is there now fully sync and I believe soon will we see some better prices😃
One of the best Chanels 🔥🔥
Thanks for the support brother 🍻🤗
you deserve so much more credits for all your content! really really appreciate it! you‘re inspiring mate!!
Thanks for the kind words and support buddy 🍻
I feel great gratitude for how far this channel has gone even now 🤗
100k subscribers easy. Keep this content up. 🎉. Always love the videos
Thanks buddy 🍻😁
Fantastic! How much faster did your best lap times get. Sounds like a lot faster. Can you give us a sense of what you achieved time-improvement wise. Perhaps run some tests with the system on and off.
I have in mind to do some testing turning off the wheel FFB and try to drive only on motion feedback to see how it goes and then compare only on wheel FFB and all together as I’m interested to see the results 😃
My time’s improved with few tenths but that comes also from the pedals feedback which helps enormously too and I must test that all one bay one and compare!
The biggest improvement comes in helping me do those laps constantly now which was always a problem on that specific track !
Should be super interesting. Don't forget to test at various levels (for example 1. an immersion level that values fun and immersion over raw speed: 2. a speed level that just includes that set-up you believe is most likely to make you faster; and 3. no motion). My personal research tended to show that no motion or minimal bass shaker haptics (for slip in iRacing) results in the lowest lap-times. However the sheer response time of the system you tested and very importantly, your feeling that you were faster/more consistent, may well bear out. Either way we will learn a lot. By the way I also did some research with experts and what appears to be the factor that makes us slower is brain overload from too many overlapping (pardon the pun) sensory inputs. Exactly what you said was your problem with previous motion systems you tried. If that is not a problem with your new system, and lap-times are indeed verifiably faster (or even more consistent), that would be HUGE!
@@JonFestinger realize great points man !
I’m excited to test all that and see what results will bring to the table 😃
Hi legend, are you still using the QS-210? Any problems or you recommend it. I’m a decent driver but I suck at building and tweaking stuff. Thank you always
Hi buddy and yes, absolutely recommend this kit.
I must do long term review at some point after learning few things trough use but indeed this is amazing kit 💪
Thank you
Where are you from bro? I hear a balkan sound in your english hehe
Love your videos btw keep up the good work
Yes brother, I’m Bulgarian 😃🍻
Thank you for this awesome in depth review. I must move out of my house for almost 1.5 years, so I need to take my rig apart, rebuild it, and when we move to our new house with they will build in the 1.5 years time, I can finally build my rig the way you did. Ofcourse with a little touch of my self.
But I will definitely buy this motion setup.
So glad to hear that brother 😃
It is such a blast to be home and able to enjoy the hobby on daily basis 💪🍻
Nice vid Steliyan!!! This thing is a beast!
It is monster bro 😃
How did you integrate your steering wheel when you drive with Motion. Since the rig goes up and down
Hi buddy
I build second aluminum profile frame for the wheel and passenger place with the gears and connect that to the triple monitor stand to make sure is rigid 🤛
Thank U from Southern France, I wish to see more videos about the Qubic System QS-210 (Set up, …)
More are coming for sure man , next step is to explore this in VR 😃
Thanks for the supportive words buddy 🤛
Please, test it with rally sims and tell us if the system is up to par with what you feel on circuit. As owner of a seat mover (next level v3) and buttkicker pro/plus I will like to know it the QS-210 worth the upgrade!! Thanks in advance.
I must do that indeed man ! Will test that and see how it works and feels 🤛
Rally matters!!
Do you think this level of motion sim isn't achievable in DIY?
Great content as always!
I’m sure is possible as the hardware is there and the main thing will be a proper software to tell what exactly to do.
This here have some advanced filters which I haven’t fully understood yet how they work exactly to blend all the movements but ones I do will make full video about it!
@@chepilevski Thanks for your evaluation!
Great video,
What monitors are those ? whats the size ?
Thank you,
Thx buddy 🤛
I use 32 inch monitors
Thanks for your amazing video as always 🙂
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Hey, RBM. Your logo reminds me of the hexagram of the Freemasons. Are you a Lodge Brother? Honestly, with a mind like yours it totally makes sense to me 😅
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Now you said that , I will always see the Masonic emblem in it 🙈🤣🤣🤣
@@chepilevski I am so relieved you're not a Freemason. Phew! A BigBrain I can trust! ❤️
Great Video as usual! So better than dbox systems?
I have used this. It’s fantastic but way overpriced
Yeh man, I don’t know if is overrated but is definitely expensive gear and drooping the price with this model and the QS-220 is good sign 😃
Thank you for another Video, I appreciate all that you do for the Sim community. I can tell you put so much Passion into your reviews. So thank you. Have a great day.
Much love buddy 🤗
Thanks for the supportive words 🍻
Brother ..im rn choosing between qubic or dbox gen 5 ..in terms of reaction speeds and also haptics feedback like concrete to asphalt or grass ..shifts ..braking with ubdersteer or oversteer ..pitch heave ..would you recommend this over dbox ? Can you please tell me your honest opinion if money are not limited…pricetag for q220 is similar to dbox ..
Hey buddy, I drove the D-Box on the expo and wasn’t really happy in the way was setup particularly from the haptics feedback but will not be fair to really compare them as I haven’t chance to fully tweak the settings!
I’ve spoke to company which works with both Qubic and D-Box and they said with the Qubics they are happier!
One thing I can say for sure is the QS-210 shakes me like crazy and I can’t see how I personally can get any advantage of the QS-220 except for flights sims where the vertical movements can be exaggerated with the 100mm velocity!
I’m really impressed with those I have here man 🙈
@@chepilevski Thank you very much brother …i did not do my homework so i was expecting that 220 will be a lil quicker but i already saw ur explanation how perfectly quick is 210 with delivering those amount of informations ..i was only afraid that its ability to describe and bring those very thin rumbles Slides drifts and feeling of speed to break on corners if its really so precise how dbox were trying to convince their system is ..i petsonally never drove any other than seat mover which i didnt like so much .i will go more deep in checking qubic and after ur video and rn after answer im more then sarisfied i will pick qubic for this christmas :) along with ultimate price thats more than 3 k difference its flawless …Thank you brother
@@marsinko9714 check the videos of Simracing garage and BustedMedia as they both know well the D-box and was both surprised from the speed of the Qubic.
The velocity speed is greater in QS-220 but I don’t know if you will ever want to use it 😁
Sure is better on paper but is mostly beneficial for different settings and as a 3dof you n sim rig , the 210 will save you lot of money with the same result in my opinion!
Of course if money are not a problem 220 is better on paper!
Something like Simucube Pro and Ultimate 😃
I can feel one is stronger but in normal use they feel absolutely the same to me 😁
Looks like fun, but damn that pricetag!! Thank you for an amazing review!
Yes man , those are crazy investments but at least for first time I can see the full potential of the tech and hopefully will become more affordable in the future 😃
Thanks for the kind words mate 🍻
Nice wondering why you were so quite lately. Did you get a chance to use the new rfactor2 Online system?
I haven’t man 🙈
I’m so busy lately and want badly to give it a go 😃
I used it twice so far. Amazing the change it has done for the sim..... Hope it grows. Already love rf2 but an experience like iRacing or ACC for comps would be next level.@@chepilevski
When the settings are right, and you get use to the sensation, you can't go back to no motion. The experience is weird when i forget to activate for couple of laps. My simrig sr2 is not as fast, and already punches me hard, so i can't imagine yours. But still, I'm not sure i would like the wheel to moving with the rig. I get your point, what you want to replicate. But still, the movement of the body compare to the wheel looks too intense to be realistic in my opinion. The idea i have (not tested yet) to get sustained g force effect, is to attache the rear of the harness to a fix point in the room.Therefore, when the rig moves forward under braking, it will do the same thing as a belt tensioner
Also, try in vr, you will have a better immersion and combo of motion and visual that will trick your mind
I know it sounds weird buddy and I wish it was easy to be tested but is bit complicated to be set like that 🙈
And you are so right, ones you get used to motion, without it feels so empty experience .
I haven’t yet tested it in VR and I keep it back as that will be another WOW and want to capture those emotions 😃
VR is probably my all time favorite tech for racing and gaming overall 💪
Just have to set my Valve Index and jump on Nordschleife 😃
Best sim channel ever! How much I enjoy watching your videos, you deserve this upgrade, thank you for sharing with us! ❤️
Much love buddy, thanks for the kind words 🍻🤗
@@chepilevski Taking advantage of your answer, I would like to ask you a question regarding with your old Simucube if possible 😊 I am thinking to use also an extension of the wheelbase in order to make bigger the space I have on my legs, Could you recommend me please a extension accessory for this base? Thank you in advance mate!! I really appreciate it
@@jaco_DC_ here is the best for the money and size you can get buddy, anything above 15cm will create way too much flex!
www.simracingbay.com/product/extension-for-simucube-2/
Бро. Я так рад за тебя. Помню ты говорил, что эти движущиеся платформы тебе не особо нравятся, из-за несинхронности действий происходящих на экране и в реальности ( примерно так). И вот наконец ты приобрёл действительно профессиональный комплект. Я много смотрел видео с сим выставок, и система Кубиков почему то запоминается и внушает доверие, в отличие от многих других. Я из России, и у нас к сожалению не проходят такие мероприятия, лишь в мечтах остаётся прокатиться на такой системе. Я завидую тебе по доброму,цена конечно большая,но это оправдывает все, что получаешь от неё, ведь не хватает именно понимания развесовки автомобиля, а уж ездить можно и на более дешёвых базах. Красавчик, спасибо тебе за контент. Я тебе писал как то, что я себе поставил басс шейкер под сиденье, теперь я купил и поставил под педали) ощущения прибавилось ещё больше). Может когда нибудь ты сделаешь видео по настройке их в simhub.
С такой системой наверное отпадает необходимость в басс шейкерах, ты сказал, что актуаторы делают до 100 герц колебаний. Остаётся только через твои видео, ощущать как это здорово 🙏🤝
спасибо за поддержку, как всегда, брат Я до сих пор не мог поверить, насколько быстрая эта платформа😁 Я скоро добавлю бас-шейкеры и скоро сделаю видео!
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Awesome video, like always. Can’t wait to see how you setup everything.
Thanks buddy🤗
😳 Oh yes…. Finally! You sneaky SOB! 😂 👏 will watch this now. Damn… 🥳 …can’t wait!
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wow...this is soo amazing cool stuff ..i got a very long way to ...a nice futre for simracers with this hardware ....no doubt you have a greater exprience than you already had ....good vid ..💪✌
Beautiful review! Had me sold when you drove Sebring (A very fun but annoyingly bumpy track) Made me want to buy one ... just one € too much.😅
I hate this track man 🙈
It is fun I spent mostly on this track the last few weeks to fully understand what is going on with the equipment 😁
So you finally running a motion sim?!? About time buddy! Nice. 3+ years here with mine and I could never imagine taking without it. Total immersion!
I really would like to read the research about "the brain can perceive nothing more than 60hz/fps" considering that's totally wrong. I can perceive myself the difference between 60 and 120 fps, and some people can even perceive the step from 120 to 240. There is a ton of video on youtube doing double blind tests and the results are very clear. If you want to watch one video with summarize all the important point you can look for Linus's video (LTT). Cheers.
Have you tried the systems that only do drift ( back end stepping out) and acceleration/braking as I was thinking that might be cheaper, less likely for me to end up divorced than a full system?
Your brain can totally perceive faster than 60fps. All competitive fps is played at 240fps or greater. If you played at 60fps would be totally uncompetitive.
Living the dream for sure!
That’s so true man 😃
I’m really getting closer and closer to my real life racing experience and sometimes I feel I’m totally lost in this world and forget I’m in my room 😃
It is crazy how far this sim world have gone 💪
Fantastic video and collaboration with Qubic. I have had their QS 220 system for a year now and am still blown away by it, very glad they worked with you on the QS 210 to bring this motion platform to even more people. I use it for flight sim and sim racing and the combination of the very refined software and hardware specifications on the actuators is what sold me over d box which has more setup involved on the software side, less range of travel and less responsiveness on the actuator speed.
Hey Patrick, I realize try hard to not sound overexcited in that video and I don’t think I’m even expressing the half of the excitement I have with this platform!
Because you have the 220 monster you will totally understand why this thing totally changed my view for motion platforms !
For years I was thinking is impossible to make this work properly because of latency I felt all the time !
This really blows my mind and I still try to test and find if I’m not some how confused but watching those nets of my rig and the virtual one’s really blowing my mind 🙈
Wenn ich mal im Lotto gewinne 🤪
I was expecting this since the last teaser video about a month ago.
Thanks for this great video!👏
Nice clip as always mate. Is that the Turn GT3R wheel?
Thx buddy 🍻
That is the VP-GT
@@chepilevski Awesome, what a beaut!
Could you compare this QS with eRacing lab? Would you go for eRacing lab for half money of QS or save for one/two years more for QS? 😂
Fantastic ! Great ! Can't wait the part 2 !
Incredible content, underrated channel!
As long as I read posts like your feels very well rated brother 🤗
Thanks for the support buddy 🍻
2 weeks has passed and I'm still trying to figure out how did you manage that keep wheel deck, with monitors isolated from the rest of the rig, totally rigid and with zero flex 😅... Pretty sure you will show us sooner than later... I'm looking forward to it 😊
Yeh man I will for sure 🤛
I’m just trying to finish some other video and the full build is coming soon 🙈
a dedicated seat mover would be good from this company, i always felt that just a seat mover would give best impression of g forces, like you have it just working on your seat and not the wheel or screen
Man, I have it as idea and believed will work but the result surprised me 😃
I never felt more connected in motivation rig 😁
I’ve tested quite a bit on the expo last week and nothing feels like this one here in the way I attached it .
Excellent work, really pleased for you and looking forward to part 2.
Welcome to the wonderful world of motion. I have mine for almost a year now and can't go back. It's good to see that these things are getting more affordable for everyone. I got the e-racing lab rs mega+. It's absolutely mind blowing what it can do for the price. ACC telemetry is not that good. Car feels like a boat. Ams2 has the best I have felt so far.
It is indeed different world man 😃
Love the channel and love to tinker and build myself. Having my DIY G seat makes a huge difference for sustained Gs!
It is awesome add our own ideas and make it bit more personal, isn’t it 😃
Just need glasses free 3d monitors to complete this.... oh how I wish they'd bring them to market.
That will be absolutely awesome indeed man 😃
Hiya Bro, i have the qs-210 and i have set up my system with vr in the same isolated fashion as you. I also have the active pedal and i have had to mount the pedals to the motion part of the frame as my braking would cause the qs-210 system to move backwards on its cups. How did you get around this issue, or do you also run the pedals fixed to the moving frame?
Hi buddy 🤛
The pedals are in the moving frame but I don’t think if the actuators move in the cup is a problem!
Is bit of headache to center all for for beginning but then is fine🤛
Great Video, thanks mate. Loved to watch it😊. I had the same bad experiences with motion rigs cause the confusing of the different feedbacks of wheel and body movements 😅. But this sounds awesome. Unfortunately still not affordable for me 🥲😝
With the years I was thinking it wouldn’t be possible to fix that problem I personally had with those motions actuators but is finally possible 😯
Now ones they prove that is time to become more mainstream and find the way to build even smaller models 💪
What a beautiful share ! Thanks. Great job. I want it ! (but I must save money...).
Thx for the kind words buddy🤛
Have a great Sunday 🍻
Hi!
Beautiful content, well produced, with passion for sim racing and for telling a good story.
Been a subscriber for a while now.
You always inspire and inform.
Kind regards
Thanks for the supportive post Rick 🤗
It means a lot buddy 🍻
looks like separating the seat movement from the wheel is the best immersion if you have a physical dash, I like the way you presented how your body moves in the seat.
Would you say for most people who have a virtual dash on screen beyond their wheelbase, it would make more sense to have the wheel and screens fixed to the motion system?
All you see is with the virtual dash in those videos buddy but one important thing is I lock the picture from the screens to the horizon and nothing moves there !
I wish people can try this and decide how they feel !
For me it makes huge difference 😃
Have you had the chance to compare it with the QS-220? Thinking about getting one, don't know if 220 is overkill for racing sim and the extra travel is mostly useful for flight sims
I believe the QS-220 actuators are beneficial for other build like the crazy rig they send to Boosted Media but in normal 3DOF systems maybe only is flight simulators.
I found myself using the 210 at 20-25% strength to take the details I need without overwriting the FFB from the wheel!
I must make soon video what I have learned after this extensive use!
Just to give you an idea, ones at 100% strength of the QS-210 over some bumps my heals detached from the pedals plate! It is so violent!
I can do few laps like this for fun but no way I can use it like that for serious driving!
However, I haven’t tested the 220 in 3 DOF but have tested them in other system configurations like in the one ImSim have and they barely used the available power!
I personally believe all the power and length movements goes waisted in normal Simracing use 🤛
You my friend are the Oracle of Sim racing who everyone should seek out. My dream is to one day have a motion system, for me i like the immersion of Sim racing and although i am able to achieve respectable lap times i think the experience and enjoyment of driving is far more important.
Much love brother 🤗
I wish you get your dream rig soon buddy!
I totally agree with your statement with the immersion and experience!
I’m mostly competitive mind but is so important to have things just right and relax from time to time and fully enjoy the experience 😃
Chassis mover with static steeringwheel sounds pretty wild.. had that idea in my head too haha. It should combine the benefits of a chassis mover and a seatmover 🔥
Man, it is so natural you wouldn’t believe it 😃🤛
Man your sim content is on another level. I just started the hobby and your videos I feel helped immensely in helping me get the right gear for me. Now I'm wondering if I should get this motion setup even though I'm still practicing to consistently stay on track and not hit other drivers 😂
It is such a beautiful hobby man 🤗 glad to know the content is helping your journey brother 🍻
If you have the funds go for it!
However, A VERY budget option if you want to add more feedback is shaker pucks (meant for home studios to make bass more intense in furniture) for your road feedback, and Arduino controlled rumble motors on your pedals.
Pucks are great help for VR imerssion. I'm currently only using 4, on each corner of my rig but they're getting the job done
The rumble motors are more immersion, but the best feedback I have now is traction loss under breaking if I hit my brakes too hard. It was my biggest problem before I grabbed those
@bTabard I got the P1000 peddals and the haptic motors which have been great for feeling abs. When you say pucks is that something like the buttkickers or is it something else?
@@Landril That is what a sim a particular company calls them (and they sell it with mounting equipment and the electronics to run it which is nice). The audio industry calls them "Bass Shakers" or "Shaker Pucks". You drive them with normal A/V equipment, and hook that up to a soundcard on your PC.
Then you have a program "SimHub" which translates the telemetry data from the game to the shakers. A 5.1 sound card could drive 6 shakers, since the shakers take the place of speakers in the install.
With my setup, it ran $170 for the audio driver, 4 pucks, and some cables to connect everything.
Amazing stuff, but 6 grand is a bit outside my budget. :D
This looks outstanding!! Great channel mate 👍🏻 how noisy is something like this?
This model specifically is really silent and you can hear it at the last 30 seconds of the video! Way silent then my shifters on the wheel 😃
Does this work in all the "big" sims? And does it work just as well in all of them?
Yes, it works with every title even with the new Forza !
I have tested ACC, AMS2, RF2 and iRacing and it works perfectly in those !
Oh what a system that is! 💪 I really like the quality here but it’s not my price league. What is my cup of tea though, is your honest smile! 😍 I could literally eat the joy off your face with a spoon! 😂🤗 I see you at the Expo… have a good day and thanks for the amazing video, Chepi! Cant wait for the detailed report! 👏 …and will bring a spoon this weekend! 😂
2 days to go brother 😃
I’m excited for the Expo 🍻
@@chepilevski me too! not too long now… 🥳
Nice review! You mentioned that you are on second floor in the video, giving the motion system gonna do all sorts of vibrations and movements, how do you prevent all these from transferring to the floor below? As I am living in an apartment, my main concern is complaints from my neighbours below with all these vibrations. It will be nice if you can share more information about that.
The only thing I use is those rubber panels for fitness studios 2.5cm thick!
In the evenings I put a bit down the FX effects and the other movements of the chassis are very quiet!
Till now zero complaints from neighbors buddy!
As long as you keep the FX effects in reasonable gain is more silent then my magnetic shifters 🤛😃
That sounds fantastic! Thanks for the info!
Damn nice vid again ! If money wasn’t the issue, definitely motion was my way 💪
Crazy stuff bro 🙈
Next step is the cable connection to the Matrix 😁
You said below that you are trying to finish video with full attached gear to platform. What the results? My plan is to replace the rig with one where the monitors are attached to the main frame, but I'm not sure if that will work. For example track racer. What do you think?
Hey Chris, I will post video tonight how I build my rig and why I’ve got those decisions!
For maximum performance of the actuators you must go as light as possible and there are 2 mods with different load specs!
If you attach the monitors to the platform will work for sure but you will really need strong support for the screens as things can get violent for them !
Don't mind me asking but how to you attached the wheel seperately from the main rig with motion? And make it stable enough it wouldn't move?
I'm exploring this set up myself. Haha. Gonna mount the monitor together with the wheel stand.
Hey buddy, it is totally separate frame for the wheel which is connected to the monitors stand as well and the passenger side!
All together is heavy enough and doesn’t move at all !
After having a brain tumor removed and now I have two more growing I am going to be getting into sim racing because I don’t have it in me anymore to race go-karts and I still love the feeling of getting better lap after lap
Hey man, sorry to hear that and I hope you will get your health sorted.
Happy racing buddy, you will love the sim world I’m sure 💪
wow that is seriously impressive, those safety nets! and the noise of it too, something to consider.....
Wen I saw that first time blown my mind buddy 😮
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what type of lens is that on your gopro? man oh man im curious how this compares to the eracing motion sim
I use the wide angle on the GoPro buddy, the super wide angle makes the picture too unnatural with that barrel view for me 🙈
I've been running eracing mega+ motion for 2 years and very happy with it. I don't feel any disconnect whatsoever between the motion and what I see from the screen or feel from the wheelbase and I find the feedback helps as long as you don't turn it up too much, less is more, and dialing it in correctly is really crucial. According to the specs the Qubic system is quicker, 400mm/s is extremely quick and 800mm/s for the higher priced version is insane. But the mega+ is half the price of the cheaper Qubic so still represents great value.
@@epsomjames8806 I’m sure most of my bad motion experiences comes from bad settings as in those exhibitions , companies try to impress the users in the wrong way 🙈
Really glad to hear you feel connected to your as that experience is really next level 💪😃
@@epsomjames8806
Thank you thank you thank you for your input! Been searching for more info on eracing motion setup on the tube. But it’s the usual few videos that have been up for quite awhile.
This would be awesome with rallycross!! Be cool to have one! ♡♡♡
Yes man 😃
I’m starting to build my rig, and am just absolutely blown away with yours! What size monitors do you use?
I use 32 inch screens buddy.
It is awesome journey building your rig, isn’t it 😃
@@chepilevski definitely. I am working on switching from Xbox to PC, so definitely a journey for me
I saw this system first time on pictures in my "daily" comminity. Its so great that you have reviewed it - really amazing piece of technology.
Explained from you in a perfect way - Thanks a lot.
But I am a little bit disappointed --> wheare are the P1000 Pedals?? :)
Ah, the P1000 are shaking with the motivation brother 😁💪
Thx for the kind words buddy 🍻
@@chepilevski the motors should push your motiviation to a higher level - but i can fully understand - with the Qubic System the Haptic motors have a lower prio :). But still will give you more speed with the feedback as the motion system :).
But are you still using it? Or replaced already?
@@TNero1981 the P1000 are may main pedal set for sure !
I test other pedals for reviews and come back afterward immediately!
Can you show or explain how your fan setup is controlled? I’m trying to figure out a way to have my stream deck control a fan or two
Hey buddy, I just bring switch on my cocpit for the fan and turn it ON/OFF when I need 🤛
Given that most people turn these systems down substantially, is there not a market for a less extreme version at a reduced costs?
I woud buy it straight away if one did exist. Something like 1500e and take my manii 😅😅
finally u go motion! i have always wonder why u didnt do motion, even if you tune down the motion effect, its still fun even just for rough road, or bumps.
Yes man , that’s so true 😃
@@chepilevski i like how you detach the shifters, wheel apart from the rig. it does make sense to me. like the seat mover always make sense to me, but the pedal is inconsistent with just the seat moving. now if just the wheel is detach, it makes alot of sense.
@@rickylah69 man, I expected to be good but I surprised myself 😁