“Internet is a consideration”. Dragons Den over time is a really interesting social history - showing how tech and consumerism and capitalism has changed.
You can tell how old this episode is when he listed his routes to market focussing on retail shop routes and ended with "Internet is also a consideration"!
Because it's a product you have to smell in order to like, I'd give him a slight pass there, because even if this is an old episode the internet only being a "consideration" was almost a red flag.
“I think that’s revolting” 😂 Duncan was the most outspoken bordering on belligerent dragon and one of my favourites 😂 His favourite words seem to be “ridiculous” and “ludicrous” too
Where are they now? According to Company House, the company was dissolved in September 2012. The last filed accounts in January 2012 showed a net worth of -£8,079 with £4,294 cash in the bank.
I don't understand why, on these old episodes, there isn't a simple summary of what happened to the company / product / entrepeneur after, and up to present day. Pretty sure that all who view these clips would want to know.........
Quick research - Closed in 2012. No way he could compete with something like Dior Sauvage or Acqua Di Gio. There are plenty of niche fragrances around though like Bentley for Men Intense or Parfums de Marly Pegasus. Dragons couldn't help him in the end.
Even though this is an r extreme old episode , Note wrinkles are non existent on Dragons 🐉 David Pybus is a legend in perfume. Dragons made an error on this . His first 3 fragrances are: Pyxis which is a recreation of a fragrance from Pompeii. A Mediterranean melange of citrus, fruity herbal head notes softened with a rose-jasmine accord embedded with powdery, sensual notes of incense varieties intermingling with a blend of woody notes. A combination of flowers and fruits from his garden. Nenufar, the sacred scent of Cleopatra. A transparent floral-green blue water lily bouquet, with the pungent aroma of nutmeg rounded by light powdery notes with angelica and almond. Ankh, Tutankhamen's aroma of intrigue and is based around the notes of sacred Kyphi. Ankh is a delicate composition of the original blended herbs and resins of Kyphi, with Citrus notes giving a semblance to original camel grass and calamus, spice notes truly reflecting the original formula, and resins, honey and woody notes blending perfectly to evoke that smoky aroma of burning incense. Truly a gift of the Gods and fitting tribute to the boy king Tutankhamen. He has further fragrances in the pipeline to be launched, but to my mind, the most exciting is Night Star which is a fragrance that was discovered in a case at the bottom of the sea in The Titanic. The Titanic fragrance was originally created by a German perfumer who was based in Manchester called Alfred Saalfeld
This episode is 17 years old. Why hasn't he launched the Titanic one when he was talking about it 17 years ago? Oh it's because he went out of business 10 years ago and you can't buy any of the fragrances anywhere.
The company suspended its internet sales in January 2012 and closed down at the end of April 2012, after donating all remaining stock to charitable organizations. It cited a weak worldwide economy and marketing competition from celebrity-endorsed fragrances (wikipedia)
I like how different young deborah is from current deborah... she used to be quite aggresive, all about the profits etc and now all about eco this and free range that, and fair trade and whatever... did 3 spirits visit her on a night some christmases ago?
Actually not a bad pitch. Valuation is not completely insane given the market, he mentions how huge the market is and what kind of money he could make if he could get a foot into the door, it‘s a nice idea that you can sell well with some nice stories about historical figures and events… Not surprised that there was some interest.
i've binged dragons' den for days, and this is the first product shown on here that i went out and looked up, interested in buying. David was an absolute sweetheart and the fact that stocks were donated to charity after they closed just confirms it.
@@kreatesse he wasn’t to-the-point. Theo literally had to run a hypothetical story through him just to understand the business relationship with the manufacturer.
Duncan says it smells revolting he says it gets better like a beethoven symthamy i thought its like one of my farts they smell revolting at first but smell better after ive listened to Beethoven
@@AdamOBrien29 ordinarily I'd probably agree with you. Unfortunately it was part of a meal deal so I couldn't choose something other than coke. It did the job anyway
i dont get it they come in we made hundreds of thousands, we have a deal pending with a major retail store , we sell in 15 different retails shops. Why do they all come in and talk like this. If they all have that why do they need to go on to dragons den. What happened to the person who made something in their shed, Its a a great product i dont know what to do with it
This idea is solid but sounds doomed. 1) Nobody cares about perfumes worn by ancient people other than history buffs or super eccentric people. It will not occupy even 1% of the market it's in 2) You have to fund exorbitant amounts of money for very little returns. Newer products mean you'll have to go tomb raiding or spend hours of reading to find the perfumes worn by other ancient people. If you lie about it anyway, then there was no point to it 3) Can't compete when every female celebrity out there also launch a perfume/makeup line every year.
@@colacubes1692 but you see Cola it was the first French word in the sentence however I’m sure you are absolutely 100% no doubts about it totally correct.
Scots...lol. The only smell they really appreciate is that of whisky! LOL, just kidding, no offense to anyone Scottish out there, I love your country! Just making a wisecrack.
Well, that's weird. Two weeks ago I visited Wallace's Monument in Stirling, Central Scotland. This was the place where William Wallace defeated the English at the Battle of Stirling Bridge (see Braveheart). Anyway, this old man came up to me and handed me a sachet. I asked what was in it. He replied that it contains the original aftershave lotion Wallace wore on that momentous day!😀😁😀😁😀!!!
Touka: Would you like to work in my sweatsh....i mean office. It's got a pc and everything. You can wear a shirt and tie to feel special and maybe if you behave yourself, you can send a fax.
If I wanted credibility in the 'aroma' field I would say I'm an 'aromologist,' not an 'aromancer.' Come on guy, this is simple stuff here, don't say you're Harry Potter, say you're a serious researcher. Even if it's all bullshit anyway.
@@johnshite4656 you do realise that ‘-ologist’ is generally modern and that Aromancer specifically refers to being a dealer of aromas. To say it makes him lose credibility is just inaccurate on your part.
Touker’s favourite perfume is Eau De London Office Space
Hahhahaha
😂
🤣🤣
Is Theo's favourite Eau De children inheritance then?
To be fair, London Office Space is a great perfume name
“Internet is a consideration”. Dragons Den over time is a really interesting social history - showing how tech and consumerism and capitalism has changed.
It was from March 2007
@@leehenry5764 Would be good to see all the series back to back to watch the change!
Even now I think people prefer to buy perfume offline. Especially if that’s a new and unknown.
Perfume needs to be smelt before purchasing. Unless you buying the same stuff all the time.
Peter: capital
Tej: Vitamins
Deborah: Patent
Duncan: Health
Jenny: Out
Touker: Office Space
Theo: Children’s Inheritance
🤣 dragons den comments on yt are one of my favourite places
Kelly: gluten
James: snake
Piers:
🤔🤣👌❣
Elliot~predictable
The new guy...
Stephen: Instagram
You can tell how old this episode is when he listed his routes to market focussing on retail shop routes and ended with "Internet is also a consideration"!
Even back then Amazon and Ebay will were used a lot.
yoo're the 6th person to make this comment
Because it's a product you have to smell in order to like, I'd give him a slight pass there, because even if this is an old episode the internet only being a "consideration" was almost a red flag.
I can tell how old episode is by Peter and Debra's appearance, Debra's hair is a straight bob and Peter looks a little more youthful lol
1998?
“I think that’s revolting” 😂 Duncan was the most outspoken bordering on belligerent dragon and one of my favourites 😂 His favourite words seem to be “ridiculous” and “ludicrous” too
cleopatra's perfume? ridiculous! ludicrous!
@@soilhands7853 😂😂
For a Glaswegian he's VERY understated. He didn't use the word "shyte" or throw a punch.
Love when he starts ranting. His Scottish accent comes out even stronger.
God I miss a moody Duncan. DD was so much better back then
"Aromancer" sounds like he's a wizard that specialises in smell magic. They should add Aromancy to the next Elder Scrolls game.
'Mmm... What perfume you wearing?'
'Theo's sock'
The narrator loves him. If he calls him charming once more I’ll scream 😂
Lolz. True. Its like he is in love. Too many charming.
That guy is the exec producer and co-creator of the show, that's why he's been around so long.
Where are they now?
According to Company House, the company was dissolved in September 2012. The last filed accounts in January 2012 showed a net worth of -£8,079 with £4,294 cash in the bank.
That's quite sad to hear.
"in an unexpected twist" Can I ask why it is always an "unexpected twist" to get an offer in a show about getting investments? 😂
Well done to DD for providing the brief interview after the event, which is always so interesting and doesn't often happen.
I don't understand why, on these old episodes, there isn't a simple summary of what happened to the company / product / entrepeneur after, and up to present day. Pretty sure that all who view these clips would want to know.........
This was a long time ago before Theo Pathitis shrivelled and morphed in to Touker Suleyman
Theo The Fetus
2007
@The Chronic Maths Debater Yet here you are 🤦♂️😂
Quick research - Closed in 2012. No way he could compete with something like Dior Sauvage or Acqua Di Gio. There are plenty of niche fragrances around though like Bentley for Men Intense or Parfums de Marly Pegasus. Dragons couldn't help him in the end.
The reason he closed in 2012 is because he tested positive for Covid-19.
@@ZuluTheBee the real reason for the decline and fall of the Roman Empire was lack of social distancing and lack of mask wearing.
oh, that's sad to hear.
@@Mogamishu we are all in this fish tank together
Even though this is an r extreme old episode , Note wrinkles are non existent on Dragons 🐉
David Pybus is a legend in perfume. Dragons made an error on this .
His first 3 fragrances are:
Pyxis which is a recreation of a fragrance from Pompeii. A Mediterranean melange of citrus, fruity herbal head notes softened with a rose-jasmine accord embedded with powdery, sensual notes of incense varieties intermingling with a blend of woody notes.
A combination of flowers and fruits from his garden.
Nenufar, the sacred scent of Cleopatra.
A transparent floral-green blue water lily bouquet, with the pungent aroma of nutmeg rounded by light powdery notes with angelica and almond.
Ankh, Tutankhamen's aroma of intrigue and is based around the notes of sacred Kyphi.
Ankh is a delicate composition of the original blended herbs and resins of Kyphi, with Citrus notes giving a semblance to original camel grass and calamus, spice notes truly reflecting the original formula, and resins, honey and woody notes blending perfectly to evoke that smoky aroma of burning incense. Truly a gift of the Gods and fitting tribute to the boy king Tutankhamen.
He has further fragrances in the pipeline to be launched, but to my mind, the most exciting is Night Star which is a fragrance that was discovered in a case at the bottom of the sea in The Titanic. The Titanic fragrance was originally created by a German perfumer who was based in Manchester called Alfred Saalfeld
You’re saying Peter & Theo made a mistake investing in 40% shares of the company? 🤔
Company went out of business in 2012
Strange self contradicting comment, what are you trying to say???
Very interesting information thank you
This episode is 17 years old. Why hasn't he launched the Titanic one when he was talking about it 17 years ago? Oh it's because he went out of business 10 years ago and you can't buy any of the fragrances anywhere.
He should’ve just lifted a canvas up on that easel & started painting a portrait of theo.
The company suspended its internet sales in January 2012 and closed down at the end of April 2012, after donating all remaining stock to charitable organizations. It cited a weak worldwide economy and marketing competition from celebrity-endorsed fragrances (wikipedia)
That means it operated for roughly 5 years (this episode is from 2007), any idea how well it did while the company was up and running?
What was the company's name?
I like how different young deborah is from current deborah... she used to be quite aggresive, all about the profits etc and now all about eco this and free range that, and fair trade and whatever... did 3 spirits visit her on a night some christmases ago?
In tribute to the Titanic Perfume, I am having an iceberg salad for lunch.
Dude... wow, dark, lol.
@@gaaraxnaru It could be worse, Cleopatra's eggs were off
In tribute to Pompeii I'm having pasta covered in hot sauce
@@andrewgurney6019 Lol, wow.
@@ooginator12 🤣
"Essence of the fetus sock" would be a useful crowd dispersant.
1:21 Did he just suggest smoking his perfume?
He did. And i want some
I bought Theo's old sock aftershave . . . . . It's good.
Old sock aftershave?!! 🤔😬😆😂😂
I want to "inhereit" that also
Aeromancer.... Divination by use of the Air. Dude called himself a wizard.
No. He said Aromancer, which is just another term for a fragrance specialist.
Not sure I'd want to come home to my wife smelling like she went down with the Titanic...
Oh how times change "Internet is a consideration". Can you imagine someone said that now 😂
It’s not enough to have uncommon scents if you don’t have common business sense. Luckily, this guy made it work.
Actually not a bad pitch.
Valuation is not completely insane given the market, he mentions how huge the market is and what kind of money he could make if he could get a foot into the door, it‘s a nice idea that you can sell well with some nice stories about historical figures and events…
Not surprised that there was some interest.
"Could"
But he did tho…..
this guy made some wonderful fragrances
So glad for him bless him such a nice man congrats 🎉
I am addicted to this show!
Burger van parked right outside work. New DD uploaded, what a time to be alive.
Noice
@@Vix2066 you know it 🍔
"Internet is a consideration" 🤯 Blows my mind how different things were in the 2000s
For sure.
lol - i've just stopped the video at this point just to comment the same !
You can't buy anything online these days.
This was filmed in 2007. I remember 2007 clearly and lots of people bought from the internet back then. I think this man is just old school.
@@smallie210 no need for vaccine passports in 2007.
Duncan lives in 1950 still though lol. He goes to the CHEMIST to buy his wife a present of perfume, he thinks all bikes still use DYNAMO lights lol
I honestly did not think he was going to get investment! Bravo to him! 👏🙂
Well it’s lunch time
I'm sitting in my van eating a boneless banquet from KFC 🍗 🤣
@@Denzle1989 nice. I had soup
i've binged dragons' den for days, and this is the first product shown on here that i went out and looked up, interested in buying. David was an absolute sweetheart and the fact that stocks were donated to charity after they closed just confirms it.
“All I can say dragons is that if you work with me, you really will come up smelling of roses.”
Well done you just made Evan Davies’ hit list
I'm genuinely shocked Davies didn't reference "the sweet smell of success" .
I remember reading around the time the Victoria Beckham launched a perfume that launch costs where around 3 million for a fragrance.
1k a bottle? I'm out.
I always wondered what ex-Scotaland manager' Craig Brown did after he left the Scotland match
I admire the man but Peter is right he needs to be locked in the lab, his communication skills are lacking to the point of frustration.
Haha yeah . It reminded me of breaking bad .
@@Dieterbe yeah lol
i actually thought he was pretty eloquent
@@kreatesse he wasn’t to-the-point. Theo literally had to run a hypothetical story through him just to understand the business relationship with the manufacturer.
@@TechGamesAU I get what you mean. maybe I was blinded by his charme haha
Well intentioned but goodbye to 80K 🤦♂️
So effectively, he's just an Avon representative...
What happened to this perfume? What's the brand? Did It do well?
@Joshua Langley that's sad , I thought they could sell a few even if low sacle just on the site
Is “perfumery” a particularly popular genre of books?
Man's incredibly well educated on a subject very few people are interested in.
Hey guys did you know Theo is a Retail Magnate?
Follow-up please.
Theo "In a minute when I say Start"...never actually says Start!
When titanic 2 comes out in 2028...this man will be rich beyond his dreams.
I am unbelievably into this. Is there anywhere I can get these scents????
You are his target market 😂😂
@@leeshanpillay1253 I literally am hahaha
Yes you can get them in 2012 by using your time machine
@@TechGamesAU I gotta be honest here, if I had a time machine I'd go back and get the originals rather than these made up versions lol
I seen his Perfume in SuperDrug next to the Britney Spears one
Jenny just called.... she's also out!
David: I'm the Indiana Jones of perfumery.
Duncan: I smell a rat.
Even the agreement between them was unclear 😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
His company 'Scents of Time' ceased operating in 2012.
thank you, been looking for the "where are they now" comment
20 years ago seems like yesterday
Jenny is missing out free samples of the perfume and for that reason she's out
The Indiana Jones of Perfume - The crystal Skull. Absolutely woeful.
He has got shades of Raymond Reddington's appearance
Can I point out that Duncan, Theo and Richard are not wearing a tie. Standards are dropping.
scandalous
Don't think Duncan wore a tie until season 5?
Dropping? This is a much, much older episode.
And this was filmed back in 1932
A tie doesn't make you a better investor
The Titanic one smells fishy to me
Definitely gives you that sinking feeling
I had a whale of a time with it
You guys 🤣🤣
That's what Dunkin said.
@@RockyDaveso? maybe was I quoting him
Duncan says it smells revolting he says it gets better like a beethoven symthamy i thought its like one of my farts they smell revolting at first but smell better after ive listened to Beethoven
Bless him congratulations sir
Chicken fillet roll, packet of crisps, and a coke zero for me today
Sorry has to be pepsi max
Bangers and mash, mineral water
@@AdamOBrien29 ordinarily I'd probably agree with you. Unfortunately it was part of a meal deal so I couldn't choose something other than coke. It did the job anyway
@@AdamOBrien29 Noway. Pepsi is trash lol Dr Pepper for me💪
Slice of cold Moussaka that I made for dinner last night, bloody delicious.
I love how he says the internet is also a consideration whereas Dragons Den these days is all online and e-commerce lol
‘Internet is an option’ ….this aged well. I bet that newspaper root to market worked out for him.
80%, then we start building brand, start internet then trade fair to make up trade & perfume, go to super markets and have stall in super market
i dont get it they come in we made hundreds of thousands, we have a deal pending with a major retail store , we sell in 15 different retails shops. Why do they all come in and talk like this. If they all have that why do they need to go on to dragons den. What happened to the person who made something in their shed, Its a a great product i dont know what to do with it
‘Twas a real Thugs Den back in the end, wasn’t it. A really serious business.
This idea is solid but sounds doomed.
1) Nobody cares about perfumes worn by ancient people other than history buffs or super eccentric people. It will not occupy even 1% of the market it's in
2) You have to fund exorbitant amounts of money for very little returns. Newer products mean you'll have to go tomb raiding or spend hours of reading to find the perfumes worn by other ancient people. If you lie about it anyway, then there was no point to it
3) Can't compete when every female celebrity out there also launch a perfume/makeup line every year.
While the company only lasted like 5 years, they sold in the British Museum, which is a great idea
i forgot how dark and dirty the older seasons looked.
He was a charmer in his naivete
naivety*
@@colacubes1692 Oh I spelt a French word correctly! I apologise for missing the accent I’m not usually so gauche
@@janewhite2331 when you speak in english for the rest of the sentence it’s odd to start typing french and miss the accent off🤷🏻♀️
@@colacubes1692 but you see Cola it was the first French word in the sentence however I’m sure you are absolutely 100% no doubts about it totally correct.
Anyone happen to know how successful he is today?
Folded in 2012
I bet some of peter business partners have been locked up in a lab ...
Settle petals. Duncan you're a fool, I would pay top dollar for genuine ancient aroma
Scots...lol. The only smell they really appreciate is that of whisky! LOL, just kidding, no offense to anyone Scottish out there, I love your country! Just making a wisecrack.
@@BozCobra yOuVe ObViOuSlY nEvEr WoRkEd WiTh scots
Dishonestly mostly. They put things in their olives
@@ThePrimeMinisterOfTheBlock No
'Internet is considered' ....How old is this !! lol
Well, that's weird. Two weeks ago I visited Wallace's Monument in Stirling, Central Scotland. This was the place where William Wallace defeated the English at the Battle of Stirling Bridge (see Braveheart). Anyway, this old man came up to me and handed me a sachet. I asked what was in it. He replied that it contains the original aftershave lotion Wallace wore on that momentous day!😀😁😀😁😀!!!
wallace wore Brut....fact
Lynx africa?
Touka: Would you like to work in my sweatsh....i mean office. It's got a pc and everything. You can wear a shirt and tie to feel special and maybe if you behave yourself, you can send a fax.
How did this business do ?
@Joshua Langley ok, thanx for letting me know, dragons we're right so not to invest
If I wanted credibility in the 'aroma' field I would say I'm an 'aromologist,' not an 'aromancer.' Come on guy, this is simple stuff here, don't say you're Harry Potter, say you're a serious researcher. Even if it's all bullshit anyway.
he was alluding to the marketing..
@@andipandi5641 It sounded ridiculous. Lost credibility immediately.
@@HelloHello33333 There's only one line of business where that's actually a profitable thing.
Aromancer is the name for magician of scent who were healers known in Ancient Egyptian culture
@@johnshite4656 you do realise that ‘-ologist’ is generally modern and that Aromancer specifically refers to being a dealer of aromas. To say it makes him lose credibility is just inaccurate on your part.
If big companies thought this ws a good idea they would have done it already
Duncan: Ahm oot!
Jenny :" I'm oud"
"Internet is a consideration" 😂 nah, don't sell on the internet bro. Doesn't work.
According to my calculation, David only spent 24 of the alloted 30 seconds, with which to have a think before speaking.
Jubbajubbajubba-titanic
Good Salesman but definitely could see him coming.... Steer clear
Let's go lunch crew!
Lol yes haha
Dragons or not you should respect your elders
Good grief! Deborah is wearing one of Theo's old suit jackets.
Why just didn't he get the billion dollar company he works for to invest
It's a good point haha why weren't they at least interested
This episode for me was spoiled by too many adverts… the entrepreneur only spoke two sentences and an advert flashed on
Hi I now pay to not have adverts , best money spent for a long while
@@christinebeames2311 You could have used an adblocking extension...
Adblock is your friend
@@RCLeahcar hi what is an ad blocker extension please ,
Just scroll to the end the hit the replay icon. It removes the ads.
Jenny's perfume will be called: Out.
Charming hehe
I wanna smell that cleopatra perfume please
God, the dragons are so rude & arrogant here to such a nice man, it's a disgrace to humanity.
The guy did not inspire any confidence at all. He could be a total quack for all they know.
they are all adults negotiating a deal..
He wasn't asking for much and had such a lovely passion for what he did. I really wish I could smell the Tutankhamen perfume he made.
@@esa1097 I'm sure it's some really great skunk juice. Very potent.
Man. These guys seem a lot more disagreeable than the Americans. Even when they strike a deal, they seem unhappy and bleak.
Well this is a British show.
Lasted 5 years
Probably smells like a Walgreens holiday special purfume mixed with a bit of rubbish
How frustrating is David?? 😬🙄😭