I installed this a week and a half ago on my Jupiter SE and I am noticing a drastic difference in adhesion and drop in exposure time. My printer sits right beside an air vent and it stays pretty chill. Turning the heater on about 30 minutes before printing give it time to get ambient temps up as well as start with the resin and it works like a charm.
I'm using a brewing belt on my Saturn 4 ultra, doesn't get in the way of the tilt. 3d printed a cable pass through on the exhaust port to keep it all nice and tidy
@@Babyfacemcgill oh trust me the brewing belt radiates heat through out the chamber. I have a thermostat mounted towards the upper portion of the chamber and it gets to around 37-40c inside between the heat from the exposures and the heat of the brewing belt. Works perfectly.
You can buy the Chitu heater for less than the Elegoo heater and it has an external temperature control so it can go higher than 25°. It installs much more easily, doesn't block the usb port the filter plugs into (you may have to remove the filter to use the Elegoo heater unless you're willing to drill holes into the cover), it's easily removable, and it's been out for a long time so it's been tested by many people. I'm honestly confused why Elegoo even bothered to make this heater when it's so inferior to things that already exist. 🤷♂️
G'day all.....i made the Vogman heating unit last year, differance is i have full control over temps up to 110c and can program my exact tempts needed here in Australia. As all countrys have varying temps especially where snow is a slightly higher tempt by 2+ degrees is needed to combat the freezing conditions. For intance if in Alaska in winter and temps are in the negative... a 30c+ temp is needed to maintain a 24c temp consistant in the whole chamber. i also add my bottles in the chamber if it fits so when topping up vat its at the same temp and wont hurt your prints, the elegoo heater is great but needs to allow user modification of values. Cheers from a noob here Downunder.
Currently haven't figured out a heating solution for my mars 5 ultra. As much as I know that having a consistent temperature is necessary, I still think that heating should be optional. From a company standpoint it's more you have to put into the price of a unit. I'm not sure on the Margin something like the Mars 5 has, but a company has to make the most of that. Plus not everywhere in the world NEEDS heating. I'd love to see a vat that has a built in brew belt that seems to be the most common solution I've seen for printing in could climates. This would make a great optional add-on for a company, and something that can be avoided for cost conscious.
i have been running the heater in my mars 4 max and have noticed that i am now getting a lot of layer lines in my prints that i was not getting before. a little research shows im not the only one. i have just got a saturn 4 ultra so i will test to see if i get the same issue
I have the elegoo 5 Ultra its a great machine in my cool basement . I built ba cabinet for it and heat it with heater similar to the elegoo heater. The cabinet has a sealed door with plixiglas window , the heater is not in the printer but in the open space beside it, with printer cover off. I have not had a failed print yet which more than I can say from the Anycubic machines I have had. Thanks for your video
I'm sorry to say this but this test or rather demonstration of this product makes absolutely no sense if you don't make the same prints without using this heater. It is not clear from the material that the heater was a factor in the success since we did not see how the prints turn out without using this heater with the same file settings.
Thanks so much! You can find it on our website, link is in the video description :) It takes a little dialing in but with a heater or warm space it's much easier to print with.
I'm honestly about to put my Saturn Ultra 4 outside in my workshop, which unfortunately still doesn't have insulation. Good to know the heater is this effective so I don't have to worry about my prints.
A few years ago, after a lot of failed prints in my very chilly basement I built a heater using a hair curler and an arduino with a relais and temperature sensor. It did work, but ironically, the print of the mount I needed for it failed as well and at that point I just gave up. My "printstation" enclosure with heater and filter is supposed to be delivered soon and until then I fear my printer will have to gather dust...
Here's a tip for you Jesse when you remove your build plate from the machine Put something under it to catch any dripping resin so it doesn't drip on your machine and you have to clean it up. I use plastic picnic plates Or you could use a piece of scrap cardboard.
How about throw all that other stuff away. Put your bottle in a Bambulab and tell the printer to "dry" for 2 hrs at 35C. Then pour it in. The curing of layers will keep it nice and toasty. Works great.
The curing of layers isn't going to keep the resin at a reliable temperature, especially if its cold. Resin manufacturers give an explicit temperature range for a reason.
Why doesn't elegoo simply have a plug in resin reservoir with a heating element similar to a block heater, but one that goes around the whole vat? I ended up rigging up my own, but I'm tempted to break out the welder and do a more permanent and more controlled method. My printer was left in Canada, and everyone in Canada needs heat. It's that simple.
One thing you can do for winter printing it just run some hot water over your build plate (and dry it) right before you start. It really only needs to be warm for the first few layers.
Nope, the whole vat needs to be the same temperature to keep thermal expension consistent through larger prints, which means only air chamber heaters can do that, had prints fail because room tempatures changed by 40F.
@@miguellopez3392 Exactly. The temperature also affects the viscosity of the resin - when it's colder, the resin doesn't flow back under the build plate as quickly. The resin needs to be warm the entire time.
So you get a heater and its either heat or vent, one or the otherr, depending on the machine. I have an aftermarket air heater with my saturn 3 ultra, works well. I would like to see a heated vat - have a vat with vatband components inside the vat walls with some magnetic/electricity contact points - heated vat! Sure it would cost more but I would be willing to pay for that.
Well that beats what I've been doing with a mini desk heater mounted on the printers linear rail and heating pad thermostat on the wall behind it. I may have to get one of these, it'll be a much more tidy solution.
Why doesn’t the waste heat from the electronics go into the chamber or a heat exchanger? That wouldn’t completely solve heat issues, but would certainly help. Have you tried running 40 degrees Celsius in the chamber and seeing if you can get faster print speeds?
my Mars5ultra is reaching working temps of over 60ºc. thats without any heater, and I´m only printing small things that take only a few hours to do, i can´t touch the vat for more than 3 seconds without burning myself. Elegoo say it´s normal and just deal with it. looking on forums, i´m not the only one with this problem. I live in the south of Spain and the ambient temp is around 30-35ºc. The printer shoots up from 30ºc to 60ºc just in the bottom exposure layers and because the printer is working way above the recommended temps from the resin manufacturers, getting perfect prints is imposible. For reference it sits next to a Saturn 4 ultra and that one only reaches 40ºc when working. Sorry but i can´t recomend this printer for anyone living in a warm environment. I have the Saturn 2, Saturn 3ultra, Saturn4 ultra and the mars5 ultra and I can safely say that the Saturn 2 is giving the best results out of all of them!
My girlfriend and I just picked up one of these heaters last week!... And a Saturn 4 Ultra .... And the Mercury XS Bundle. Looks like we're gonna be aaaaaallllll set once it's set up.
@UncleJessy that filter is really handy for the resin smell in a garage. The best solution I can think of would be vat heating or some way for the air to flow through the heater to keep the warmer air while still feeding into the external filter.
Do you have a solution to heat inside the cover and vent the fumes? I'm preparing to purchase the Saturn 4 Ultra, and I have zero experience with resin printing.
I’m still new to resin printing and I haven’t been heating my resin. My prints come out fine on my Mono2 a lot of time. Granted I live in southern Arizona but I still have two fans going in my room along with ac. Does heating really make that much of a difference?
Never messed with 3D printed resin yet only casting Resin Parts with silicone molds. Uv Resin,ect. I would like to get a mesh lense i printed for costume in resin compared to on FDM printer. Even though the FDM is amazing as well.
Can you make a video about the longevity of the lcd screen? The resin printers always says on the instructions that the screen last about 1000 hours. And it's hard to find replacements here where I live. Also on amazon there aren't many choices. That's one of the reasons why I didn't get a resin printer😭
Hi Uncle Jessy and hi to all... I hope you guys can help me. I saw a cool miniature and now i don't find it anymore (I think it was on your Chanel). It looked like an spartan living armor (or Ghost) with huge gaps between helmet, round shield, sword and armor and was just connected with a thin cape which just looked like a long scarf. As far as i remeber the figure stood upright and had his sword raised. Does anyone has an idear where i can find and purchase it? Thx a lot in advance
Chitu makes a much higher performing mini resin heater. Available in Amazon, but I've used them a lot. You can direct that heater however you want. I usually have it pointed directly at the resin in the vat to warm it up, but then move the heaters to the side of the vat to keep the resin warm, without letting the airflow disturb the resin.
Never needed to think about that with the GKTwo, it heats up the resin by itself. Also it heats the resin itself and no external bricks with one single power cable smh
I can not believe they are trying to steal 50$ from users for this when it doesn't have adjustable settings and also has that huge brick. A homemade version is 1/3, the cost or less and much more flexible. This is a good example of a company failing to understand users' needs and instead just trying to fluff sales. At a huge markup. I don't understand why these companies don't just make headed vats. They would be so much cheaper.
Man I can't get over how silly the design of that heater is. It blows the hot air upwards. WHY? So it can heat the resin (where it matters) as the absolute last thing it heats in the chamber. It should at least be directed towards the resin. The chitu one seems like a WAY better option.
@@JohnJones-oy3md 👍 👍 I agree for anything mechanical or needing to be precise but for something like this it doesn’t seem to have made any impact on the overall look of the print
I installed this a week and a half ago on my Jupiter SE and I am noticing a drastic difference in adhesion and drop in exposure time. My printer sits right beside an air vent and it stays pretty chill. Turning the heater on about 30 minutes before printing give it time to get ambient temps up as well as start with the resin and it works like a charm.
Yep biggest thing I noticed as well is exposure times.
I'm using a brewing belt on my Saturn 4 ultra, doesn't get in the way of the tilt. 3d printed a cable pass through on the exhaust port to keep it all nice and tidy
Can you link your belt? I've got a S4U and would like to set it up with a belt
Im concerned about ambient as well not just the vat. As the plate rises the print can shrink as it cools from huge temp gaps.
@@Babyfacemcgill oh trust me the brewing belt radiates heat through out the chamber. I have a thermostat mounted towards the upper portion of the chamber and it gets to around 37-40c inside between the heat from the exposures and the heat of the brewing belt. Works perfectly.
@@MilitantWildcat07 I got mine off of Amazon for like $20
@@DanielChaves1984 can you link it?
It's somewhat weird to block the fume extraction opening with a heater that could be all-internal.
You can buy the Chitu heater for less than the Elegoo heater and it has an external temperature control so it can go higher than 25°. It installs much more easily, doesn't block the usb port the filter plugs into (you may have to remove the filter to use the Elegoo heater unless you're willing to drill holes into the cover), it's easily removable, and it's been out for a long time so it's been tested by many people. I'm honestly confused why Elegoo even bothered to make this heater when it's so inferior to things that already exist. 🤷♂️
G'day all.....i made the Vogman heating unit last year, differance is i have full control over temps up to 110c and can program my exact tempts needed here in Australia. As all countrys have varying temps especially where snow is a slightly higher tempt by 2+ degrees is needed to combat the freezing conditions. For intance if in Alaska in winter and temps are in the negative... a 30c+ temp is needed to maintain a 24c temp consistant in the whole chamber. i also add my bottles in the chamber if it fits so when topping up vat its at the same temp and wont hurt your prints, the elegoo heater is great but needs to allow user modification of values. Cheers from a noob here Downunder.
Currently haven't figured out a heating solution for my mars 5 ultra. As much as I know that having a consistent temperature is necessary, I still think that heating should be optional. From a company standpoint it's more you have to put into the price of a unit. I'm not sure on the Margin something like the Mars 5 has, but a company has to make the most of that. Plus not everywhere in the world NEEDS heating. I'd love to see a vat that has a built in brew belt that seems to be the most common solution I've seen for printing in could climates. This would make a great optional add-on for a company, and something that can be avoided for cost conscious.
i have been running the heater in my mars 4 max and have noticed that i am now getting a lot of layer lines in my prints that i was not getting before. a little research shows im not the only one.
i have just got a saturn 4 ultra so i will test to see if i get the same issue
I've seen a vid (and read some reports) where this heater may be the cause of major layer lines appearing on the models (probably due to its fan).
@J3DTech just posted a video about how the heater causes really bad layer lines. The heater's fan blows downward onto the resin.
I have the elegoo 5 Ultra its a great machine in my cool basement . I built ba cabinet for it and heat it with heater similar to the elegoo heater. The cabinet has a sealed door with plixiglas window , the heater is not in the printer but in the open space beside it, with printer cover off. I have not had a failed print yet which more than I can say from the Anycubic machines I have had. Thanks for your video
I’ve been using a seedling heat pad and a ink bird temp controller makes a world of difference
I was thinking about trying this too
I'm sorry to say this but this test or rather demonstration of this product makes absolutely no sense if you don't make the same prints without using this heater.
It is not clear from the material that the heater was a factor in the success since we did not see how the prints turn out without using this heater with the same file settings.
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@@pd_taka5036 Thanks for the link... But it's not the same resin...
he did says at the end he tested without the heater and it failled.
That deep red resin looks amazing! 😮
That is Lethal Shadows Resin - not the easiest to work with but prints look amazing in it once you get it dialed in
Thanks so much! You can find it on our website, link is in the video description :) It takes a little dialing in but with a heater or warm space it's much easier to print with.
@@lethalshadowsgaming It’s beautiful! I’ll have to check it out!
@UncleJessy what was the layer height when exposure was 1.6?
I always used a space heater printing in the winter kept the room warm enough for resin to flow like it's summer
I'm honestly about to put my Saturn Ultra 4 outside in my workshop, which unfortunately still doesn't have insulation. Good to know the heater is this effective so I don't have to worry about my prints.
A few years ago, after a lot of failed prints in my very chilly basement I built a heater using a hair curler and an arduino with a relais and temperature sensor. It did work, but ironically, the print of the mount I needed for it failed as well and at that point I just gave up. My "printstation" enclosure with heater and filter is supposed to be delivered soon and until then I fear my printer will have to gather dust...
Here's a tip for you Jesse when you remove your build plate from the machine Put something under it to catch any dripping resin so it doesn't drip on your machine and you have to clean it up. I use plastic picnic plates Or you could use a piece of scrap cardboard.
Should have a built in vat heater. If they did Elegoo would be the only choice.
How about throw all that other stuff away. Put your bottle in a Bambulab and tell the printer to "dry" for 2 hrs at 35C. Then pour it in. The curing of layers will keep it nice and toasty. Works great.
Oh that’s a pretty good idea as well!
The curing of layers isn't going to keep the resin at a reliable temperature, especially if its cold. Resin manufacturers give an explicit temperature range for a reason.
Why doesn't elegoo simply have a plug in resin reservoir with a heating element similar to a block heater, but one that goes around the whole vat? I ended up rigging up my own, but I'm tempted to break out the welder and do a more permanent and more controlled method. My printer was left in Canada, and everyone in Canada needs heat. It's that simple.
One thing you can do for winter printing it just run some hot water over your build plate (and dry it) right before you start. It really only needs to be warm for the first few layers.
Nope, the whole vat needs to be the same temperature to keep thermal expension consistent through larger prints, which means only air chamber heaters can do that, had prints fail because room tempatures changed by 40F.
@@miguellopez3392 Exactly. The temperature also affects the viscosity of the resin - when it's colder, the resin doesn't flow back under the build plate as quickly. The resin needs to be warm the entire time.
So you get a heater and its either heat or vent, one or the otherr, depending on the machine. I have an aftermarket air heater with my saturn 3 ultra, works well. I would like to see a heated vat - have a vat with vatband components inside the vat walls with some magnetic/electricity contact points - heated vat! Sure it would cost more but I would be willing to pay for that.
Well that beats what I've been doing with a mini desk heater mounted on the printers linear rail and heating pad thermostat on the wall behind it. I may have to get one of these, it'll be a much more tidy solution.
Awesome vid! What layer height/size did you use for that dr.doom print? Cheers
Why doesn’t the waste heat from the electronics go into the chamber or a heat exchanger? That wouldn’t completely solve heat issues, but would certainly help. Have you tried running 40 degrees Celsius in the chamber and seeing if you can get faster print speeds?
my Mars5ultra is reaching working temps of over 60ºc. thats without any heater, and I´m only printing small things that take only a few hours to do, i can´t touch the vat for more than 3 seconds without burning myself. Elegoo say it´s normal and just deal with it. looking on forums, i´m not the only one with this problem. I live in the south of Spain and the ambient temp is around 30-35ºc. The printer shoots up from 30ºc to 60ºc just in the bottom exposure layers and because the printer is working way above the recommended temps from the resin manufacturers, getting perfect prints is imposible. For reference it sits next to a Saturn 4 ultra and that one only reaches 40ºc when working. Sorry but i can´t recomend this printer for anyone living in a warm environment. I have the Saturn 2, Saturn 3ultra, Saturn4 ultra and the mars5 ultra and I can safely say that the Saturn 2 is giving the best results out of all of them!
My girlfriend and I just picked up one of these heaters last week!... And a Saturn 4 Ultra .... And the Mercury XS Bundle. Looks like we're gonna be aaaaaallllll set once it's set up.
I suppose I'll have to wait for vat heating, since I wouldn't be able to use the Elegoo air filter in conjunction with the heater.
Oh! That’s a really good callout that I didn’t think of.
@UncleJessy that filter is really handy for the resin smell in a garage. The best solution I can think of would be vat heating or some way for the air to flow through the heater to keep the warmer air while still feeding into the external filter.
@@ultra_phantomaj8300 I'm using a brewing belt around my vat
Do you have a solution to heat inside the cover and vent the fumes? I'm preparing to purchase the Saturn 4 Ultra, and I have zero experience with resin printing.
I’m still new to resin printing and I haven’t been heating my resin. My prints come out fine on my Mono2 a lot of time. Granted I live in southern Arizona but I still have two fans going in my room along with ac. Does heating really make that much of a difference?
Never messed with 3D printed resin yet only casting Resin Parts with silicone molds. Uv Resin,ect. I would like to get a mesh lense i printed for costume in resin compared to on FDM printer. Even though the FDM is amazing as well.
Yosh HellBat Mesh Lense Improves my near sightedness enough that I can wear mask without glasses or contacts.
Actually… I have questions about this. I live in Florida and the temperature is in the 90s my garage lately. Everything I print fails.
Can you make a video about the longevity of the lcd screen? The resin printers always says on the instructions that the screen last about 1000 hours. And it's hard to find replacements here where I live. Also on amazon there aren't many choices. That's one of the reasons why I didn't get a resin printer😭
So... are they loud? The idea is great
hahaha I need better speakers to edit with i think
I regularly print at 15C without any heater, but I think I'm on the lower limit.
Oh wow! That is pretty cold
What would you say if I told you I know how to solve burn in layer adhesion issues?
I haven't received my system yet. I'm completely new to printing. What is burn in layer adhesion?
Hi Uncle Jessy and hi to all...
I hope you guys can help me. I saw a cool miniature and now i don't find it anymore (I think it was on your Chanel). It looked like an spartan living armor (or Ghost) with huge gaps between helmet, round shield, sword and armor and was just connected with a thin cape which just looked like a long scarf. As far as i remeber the figure stood upright and had his sword raised. Does anyone has an idear where i can find and purchase it? Thx a lot in advance
I'm curious how long the fan motors will last. I replaced my current internal heater 2 or 3 times a year. It appears the fumes gum up the motor.
Oh wow really? Okay will keep folks updated as I will be running this with the machines from now on
@@UncleJessy to be clear I'm using a different heater than this one. I'm hopeful the filter on this one will extend the motor life.
What's this "too cold to print" thing you speak of? Sincerely, Chris from Florida.
Fir my resin jobs, I just turn off the ac in my workshop and its easily gets to 90F+. The only real perks of living in the desert.
Finally! Now I can use my resin printer when it’s snowing outside! 🤣
I mean.... why not right!?! 🤣🤦♂️
Chitu makes a much higher performing mini resin heater. Available in Amazon, but I've used them a lot. You can direct that heater however you want. I usually have it pointed directly at the resin in the vat to warm it up, but then move the heaters to the side of the vat to keep the resin warm, without letting the airflow disturb the resin.
No joke man! When you post a vid you make my day!
Is there a solution if I use the Mars mate air purifier that uses the same port are on the back?
Never needed to think about that with the GKTwo, it heats up the resin by itself. Also it heats the resin itself and no external bricks with one single power cable smh
@@firelion98 yeah! Now that’s what I’m talking about. Fully built into the printer is the best option
I can not believe they are trying to steal 50$ from users for this when it doesn't have adjustable settings and also has that huge brick. A homemade version is 1/3, the cost or less and much more flexible. This is a good example of a company failing to understand users' needs and instead just trying to fluff sales. At a huge markup. I don't understand why these companies don't just make headed vats. They would be so much cheaper.
I hope they don’t put heaters in the machines until gen 7/8… I just got the Saturn 4 bruh 😂😂😂
Were these busts printed solid or hollow?
Hollowed
I was expecting that you were going to stick the printer in your fridge to test it at lower temps.
been watching you since middle school
Thanks unc!
Man I can't get over how silly the design of that heater is. It blows the hot air upwards. WHY? So it can heat the resin (where it matters) as the absolute last thing it heats in the chamber. It should at least be directed towards the resin. The chitu one seems like a WAY better option.
Paint me skeptical.
Find your local ice carver or ice decor shop. When I was working in the industry we would have totally let you test in our walk-in freezer 😂
7:17 - The lifting is a deal-breaker. Every subsequent layer is corrupted.
@@JohnJones-oy3md 👍 👍 I agree for anything mechanical or needing to be precise but for something like this it doesn’t seem to have made any impact on the overall look of the print
@@UncleJessy True, can get away with a lot more on organic shapes. Gears or interlocking parts, not so much.
Yes, winter is coming but economically! 2008 will be a birthday party against it!
Anyone have a file to make the heater compatible with mars 2/3?
It looks like you can't ventilate the printer if you use the heater... Sadly that's a huge no for me
Do you know of a duel solution that exists?
I love his vids
*elegoo commercials
Wow now i can use my resin filter outside like a hobo😂
should try this again when its 32 outside. would like to see some hardcore testing =P
🤣😂🤘 check back in a few months
$20 space heater also works.
it's a stupid solution. you can use this heater or your airfilter. bozh use the same hole.
um NO TO REMOVING EXHAST PORT this is not an option.
give me a real solution and not shill nonsense.
waste of time