yeah for home recycling to be viable, a all in one machine is going to have to be under 300, even under 200 for non enthusiasts. assuming like 10-20% of your filament is waste or failed prints you would still need to have at least the waste of 20 rolls of filament (not counting printing recycled filament again and also re using that waste) to even get close to it paying for itself even at 300$@15/kilo (recycled at home with no additives is not going to be any better than bottom of the barrel pla, even the super cheap stuff like r3d at like 9$/kilo is probably better). ~100 spools used for ~20 spools of waste @20% thus saving you 300$ @15$/kg, thats a hell of a lot of filament to use to pay for itself, assuming nothing ever goes wrong and you get 100% recylability (you wont). the numbers are even worse at 10% and thats just my best guess, maybe some have even less waste, and of course thats assuming you keep ALL of your filament clean and sorted. I really hope there is a good home solution, but this isnt it, even if it worked flawlessly.
They are faking the “[Name] bought LOOP”. A Quick Look at the page source shows they all exist and the JavaScript just randomly shows one. This whole thing is a scam
One very obvious way to test that, even for "less technical people", simply enter the web page, and look at ordering information get updated even after you put your system offline :D
Thomas Sanladerer just released a video nearly the same time showing off 3devo's new $18K shredder and $17K filament maker. Those are real products, and they are large, and required to be as large as they are to do the job. This machine is a total scam. It's not a "potential scam", it is 100% guaranteed scam.
The main thing is,is not whether or not its possible,but whether or not it can actually do it consistently,as most 3d printers need specifically ~1.75mm width for the filament. That's the issue. Because working with PLA itself is not *that* difficult, but having 1.75mm width over hundreds of metres of filament can be extremely difficult.
I’m extremely skeptical, but hopeful it becomes an actual product. The fact they don’t even have prototype product pictures is throwing red flags though
Glad you made a video on this! I've also seen the ads, and while it's a nice idea I need to see a prototype before I'd cough up any money. I'm very skeptical of the blender as being a good solution for grinding filament, and the website just being a $100 deposit landing page is somewhat concerning. But I'm dying for a recycling solution like this.
People might believe this because of how unbelievable 3d printing has become in the past year or so. Its just amazing. Sad people are trying to take advantage of people like this
If this is real and there isn't a prototype made we are heading straight for a disaster. There will be so many different problems from the onset of production I don't think I would go near it until after a full year has passed, if the company survives. Let's see what happens next. Uncle Jessy thank you for taking the time to make a video on this and sharing your concerns.
Unless you are okay with just giving money away, pre-orders are never a good idea. Things go on sale, so if you're chasing savings, just wait until whatever it is that you want to get goes on normal sale. Pre-orders are risky and we see how folks get burned over and over by fake promises. I get that some companies need some funds to put something in production, but if you do end up helping with that, just know that you're taking on the risk of it not going through.
There's many red flags but the weird one is: why not set the retail price a lot lower? Why not make it a $700 device to entice more buyers & keep the deposit the same? If it's truly a scam then they put in a lot of effort only to then make dumb mistakes that limit the amount of people who would fall for it since that amount of money is insane. Even for $1400, you need to recover at least 100 kg of filament before it starts making sense and even then you'll have a lower quality brown-ish filament. Who would want that? Even print farms won't use brown that much in their prints and they'd be the only ones that have 100kg of waste!
The price makes it seem more plausible, though. The Artme3D kit that CNCKitchen looked at is 675 euros just for a kit. An actual assembled system isn't going to cost less than that! Not that I'm saying this is real, but 1400$ as a "just over cost to generate hype" price feels like what a working version might actually cost.
Maybe because the number of people willing to spend $700 and then get antsy about their $100 deposit is much higher and are not willing to wait as long. People putting down $100 on something they ultimately have to pay $1400 (or more) are probably going to be more patient and accept more "sorry guys, we didn't anticipate how long it would take.. " and "we want to make sure it's the highest quality, so we made some changes". They can even play the "We're not making something cheap, and quality takes time. You don't want some cheap, disposable product do you?" card. They'll even convince other backers to guilt those people asking for a refund ("It's just $100! Don't buy Starbucks for a week!"). We've seen it happen with other Kickstarter/Pre-Orders/etc. Get a few (gullible) true believers and they can kick the can down the road for YEARS. Every few months they just have to put out a "This is an email I never wanted to write but I have to be transparent with you guys. Our supplier didn't meet our high standards so we had to find another. Uh oh, it's Chinese New Year, so we have to wait another month to get a hold of someone new before we can start the whole process all over again." Occasionally add "We're actually losing money on the Early Bird order so please be patient" and maybe a "We've mortgaged our houses and have to do contracting work to make ends meet. Don't you feel bad for asking for your piddling $100 back?"
This 1000% looks like someone who is interested in 3d printing who’s learned what people want. But doesn’t understand how it works first hand and found a way to scam people for a few years by paying a render company to make a random model of their general description.
I saw this online, and I added it to my cart, and it said the cost was only 100 dollars, not 2k... seems very scammy to me, as they didn't say it was a deposit fee
I don't see how little tiny blender blades would adequately shred 3D prints or at least the majority of a 3D print. I could see the blades impacting the models and tossing them around more than actually shredding them. (Their goofy render even shows benchies just being tossed around.) There's a reason why some of the fancy setups shown by creators like Dr. D-Flo use grind-style mechanisms (like a paper shredder) for destroying the 3D prints.
im so glad you did a video on this. I just saw an ad today and my "too good to be true" alarms were going off so I didn't pre-order. I really hope its real but....yeah
100% scam. They can make all the promises they like but without a way of holding them accountable, their promises are worthless. Any company that wants my money had better be willing to pick up a phone.
Considering you can buy 1Kg spools of PLA for $9 if you shop around, that's over 160 home-recycled spools you're going to have to produce before you break even (and that's excluding the electricity cost). The whole rendered simulation just screams "scam!" A junk PLA recycler is one of those dream things that people would love to see, but just like care engines that run on tap water, they belong in fantasy land. We all want quality PLA, so expecting this thing to filter out impurities and other junk while producing a filament at a perfect diameter is too much to ask. Well done for posting a warning.
regarding the noise dampening, if you go to starbucks they have a shield they put over the blender which does cut the noise down a lot. it's not a little door thing tho, it's like a big bin thing that fits over top.
Pop ups of people "per-ordering" No details about the creator No details about who is working on this project No details and or indepth workings on how they got to where they are today No indication of any prototype and or previous prototypes. Only showing renders. This pretty much fits every box this is a scam. I hope people do not back this product..
2:36 In my experience, a majority of sites that have that sort of "X just bought Y!" are scam sites trying to entice you into buying their product with fake hype. Not all of them, but a very large portion of them...
another channel has a filament maker, they're reusing their spools this dropped literally an hour before your video *"Can you print (with) your spools?"*
Very suspect. No owner or contact information is wild. Sounds like they are seeing how much demand the product has before they start making it. Not sure if they can actually pull it off if it's not already a scam
I used to work with injection moulding machines. The only way I can think of to make this work is if you had a heated Archimedes screw with a hopper feeding in the pellets/chips of plastic. The screw would drive the melted plastic to an extruder and then a mechanism to cool and spool the extruded product. None of which would be cheap or I would imagine suitable for home use. But hey maybe someone will come up with a usable home version but I don't think this is going to be it
Even if it was real, that is a lot of money for a machine that the average hobbyist would never recoup. I print about 10 rolls per month, but have almost no waste. The other problem which you pointed out is the mixing of filament types, and then even within one type the colors. If one is a typical user all you would probably get is some muddy brown
In 5 years Bambu Labs will make this, but it will have automatic Material separation using super LiDar scanning. It will dehydrate the filament for you, package it, and take only 10 seconds to set up out of the box. But it will still cost $1500
Ive seen the respool filament machine before and its enormous, I assume this is some type of paper shredding machine but Im not too sure who this is gona work, still I will keep sending my fail prints to my recycling unit in my town.
As someone that works on the same building where industrial side molding machine work making plastic and fiberglass parts I can see this is one gimmick product.
There are a lot of parts that don't seem to fit well together, like the filter is gonna get clogged often requiring constant cleaning, where is the shredded plastic being moved and how is the already shredded plastic going to be moved around to get adequately heated and given how it comes out at the end you will have to cool it down drastically and manually insert the extruded filament through the sensors which look very small and may not work. I would need a whole tear down video of how this works and does it actually work well if it exists in the first place
They probably think they can solve the challenges with enough cash, or it's no loss to them either way. I doubt the final product is going to look anything like that if it ever exists. On the plus side, you could hook it up to your Kokoni Sota.
I still feel there must be a way of using a metal hopper with heaters attached and small holes in the bottom and some hydraulic pressure on the top to press melted filament through the holes, with a spinning blade that cuts the used filament in to pellets, so you can use them in a REAL filament making device without going through the tedious process of using a blender or what-ever to chop your failed prints in to bits.
Scam? Maybe. If you are preordering it’s a gamble. They obviously haven’t finished the functional engineering aspect of the device, which is why they are doing a preorder. To get funding, but there’s no certainty that it’s feasible. if you are preordering a product that’s isn’t fully developed, you are investing, and that has risk.
Legitimate Kickstarters usually have a working physical prototype. Even business investors would want to see a prototype before they fund full scale production.
I have not problem paying more, later, after the vetting process has finished by other, much more qualified users. Even if we stipulate that it's absolutely a real product soon to ship... there are a lot of products where it's mostly as advertised, but yet with enough disappointments that you wouldn't have actually bought it if you'd known everything. I'll wait. Thanks for the video.
Maybe it would be better if they removed the blending function and kept only the filament melting, since we all have a blender anyway, and that way they could lower the price.
Filament Keurig. Sounds like a job for Bambu. This would be great for single color or type. I use alot of Desert tan matte PLA by Bambu. I love the concept. UJ you are a Rockstar!!
The whole website screams scam. Every single thing about it is far too polished, the render is of something that is designed to look appealing not function, the buyers are fake. Everything screams scam.
The website use an AI generated image as backdrop for the product, and the little "ordered" popups that show up doesn't call the shopify API at all after load so that is 100000% not a legit company.
It is VERY common for websites to use whois privacy protection. This is because when you don't you open yourself up to a metric ton of letter mail from scammy companies stating that your website is about to expire and you need to renew it. Conveniently accepting card info. And calls. And emails. It's egregious. So I wouldn't say that using whois protection is a good indication of if a company is a scam.
That render of the machine sitting on the table is BS. Look at the size of the spool and then look at the pens and pencils in the cup. If that’s a 1kg spool then I’m a monkeys uncle. This tells me that they don’t even have an assembled machine to take a photo of. Yep, I’m out, not going to waste my money on this scam.
Ah, the group buy cancer seeping its way in to yet another hobby. As a custom mechanical keyboard enthusiast, all I can say is to be extremely cautious of stuff like this, especially if the project is being managed by an unknown creator, manufacturer, or vendor.
Incredibly hard to imagine this is anything other than a wild dream. However, if it ends up being real, and can actually produce something capable of being printed, they will have just obtained the holy grail of 3d printing! So many people would happily drop $2000 on such a device. Because the current state of small scale recycling is borderline worth the effort and cost for all but the most die hard.
Yeah. Once this thing is actually released, I'll consider buying it. Until then, I'll keep putting my scraps and failures in the Hefty Orange Bags and tossing them in the recycling.
Thanks for the video and the explanation of the individual „magic“ components. I didn’t see this on social media before, but that definitely looks fishy.
100% a scam, anyone of a minimal competence level would actually build a render (or contract someone else to build it) that at least roughly matches the provided dimensions. It looks like the size of a desktop PC tower compared to the spool but the stated dimensions are significantly larger. The Kokoni Sota was a more real product than this will ever be.
That product looks too small and compact for what I think you would need. That said, technically, all you should have to have is kitchen, garbage, disposal, motor, some type of hot plate, or other heating element and then something like a hot glue gun that would prove it to a roller
For that price I'd rather buy 100 spools of filament.
indeed. And that filament you buy (rather than make) will be more reliable.
yeah for home recycling to be viable, a all in one machine is going to have to be under 300, even under 200 for non enthusiasts. assuming like 10-20% of your filament is waste or failed prints you would still need to have at least the waste of 20 rolls of filament (not counting printing recycled filament again and also re using that waste) to even get close to it paying for itself even at 300$@15/kilo (recycled at home with no additives is not going to be any better than bottom of the barrel pla, even the super cheap stuff like r3d at like 9$/kilo is probably better).
~100 spools used for ~20 spools of waste @20% thus saving you 300$ @15$/kg, thats a hell of a lot of filament to use to pay for itself, assuming nothing ever goes wrong and you get 100% recylability (you wont). the numbers are even worse at 10% and thats just my best guess, maybe some have even less waste, and of course thats assuming you keep ALL of your filament clean and sorted.
I really hope there is a good home solution, but this isnt it, even if it worked flawlessly.
I'd pay the money to reduce the waste I'm putting into the environment. I assume it doesn't work as well as advertised unfortunately
They are faking the “[Name] bought LOOP”. A Quick Look at the page source shows they all exist and the JavaScript just randomly shows one. This whole thing is a scam
One very obvious way to test that, even for "less technical people", simply enter the web page, and look at ordering information get updated even after you put your system offline :D
The height is clearly taller than the depth in the render and not in the specs. Scam for sure.
fakeSalesPopOrders is in the javascript, they didn't even try to obfuscate it.
as someone who has recycled their filament, just throwing filament in a cheap blender is a quick way to destroy a cheap blender
Depends on how you modify it 😏
🤣👌
Bought a used food processor to try it. Ruined it in minutes.
Yes because you can't dump the heat. Try doing it submerged in water.
Which method do you use for recycling filament? It's something I'd really love to do one day.
I prefer to recycle my filament the old fashioned way: grumbling and sweeping it into a trash can 😂
🤣Is there another way?
hahah!!
@@UncleJessy well your molds is another way.. I saw someone use them to make roofing tiles for awning (for abs and petg not pla)
So landfill basically.
@@UncleJessy You can do it without the grumbling 🤣
My scam sense is screaming that this is nothing but vaporware. Too many inconsistencies between the specs, renders, and overall design.
Glad to see the big influencers start putting on their skeptic hats instead of pitching every product they can get an affiliate link for.
If this wasn't a scam it wouldn't be hidden behind 5 different info walls.
It's not.
Just enter your email.
Thomas Sanladerer just released a video nearly the same time showing off 3devo's new $18K shredder and $17K filament maker. Those are real products, and they are large, and required to be as large as they are to do the job.
This machine is a total scam. It's not a "potential scam", it is 100% guaranteed scam.
This is absolutely a scam. That's unfortunate, because we could really use such a product.
This product does not pass my "sniff" test. Thanks for making others aware of it.
I thought this might be too good to be true. This is the only video I found about this product. Thanks for looking out for the 3d printing community.
The main thing is,is not whether or not its possible,but whether or not it can actually do it consistently,as most 3d printers need specifically ~1.75mm width for the filament. That's the issue. Because working with PLA itself is not *that* difficult, but having 1.75mm width over hundreds of metres of filament can be extremely difficult.
They claim ".01mm accuracy" but show an image of filament measuring 2mm in the same info card... 🤣
🤔 with the dimensions in mind that extruded filament look more like 1/2” filament
I’m extremely skeptical, but hopeful it becomes an actual product. The fact they don’t even have prototype product pictures is throwing red flags though
If they only post 3d renders, its usually too good to be true
If they have a 3d model already just send me the stl and I'll print my own
But.. But.. they are coming to market soon they said.. for sure that is sincere.. right? RIGHT?
Glad you made a video on this! I've also seen the ads, and while it's a nice idea I need to see a prototype before I'd cough up any money. I'm very skeptical of the blender as being a good solution for grinding filament, and the website just being a $100 deposit landing page is somewhat concerning.
But I'm dying for a recycling solution like this.
I love how it magically feeds itself around a corner and through a series of holes.
Uncle Jessy, MY GOODNESS! I think you are absolutely right. If it doesn't show how it works inside, it is just SMOKE.
People might believe this because of how unbelievable 3d printing has become in the past year or so. Its just amazing. Sad people are trying to take advantage of people like this
i dont think many of those people would plonk down a grand and a half based on just a cg render though...
@@ge2719 Hopefully not..
If this is real and there isn't a prototype made we are heading straight for a disaster. There will be so many different problems from the onset of production I don't think I would go near it until after a full year has passed, if the company survives. Let's see what happens next. Uncle Jessy thank you for taking the time to make a video on this and sharing your concerns.
This video is really well put together. Your editing style is awesome. Definitely teaching us a bit lol
I'm suspicious that the proportions in the description is significantly different than the rendered picture.
Toms new video really shows just how hard it is to recycle filament.
Unless you are okay with just giving money away, pre-orders are never a good idea. Things go on sale, so if you're chasing savings, just wait until whatever it is that you want to get goes on normal sale. Pre-orders are risky and we see how folks get burned over and over by fake promises. I get that some companies need some funds to put something in production, but if you do end up helping with that, just know that you're taking on the risk of it not going through.
ChatGPT design a plastic recycling system to spool on to 1KG spools. Looks about right
While it fills the spool, just say, "Earl Grey, hot," and enjoy a nice cup of tea while you wait.
There's many red flags but the weird one is: why not set the retail price a lot lower? Why not make it a $700 device to entice more buyers & keep the deposit the same? If it's truly a scam then they put in a lot of effort only to then make dumb mistakes that limit the amount of people who would fall for it since that amount of money is insane.
Even for $1400, you need to recover at least 100 kg of filament before it starts making sense and even then you'll have a lower quality brown-ish filament. Who would want that? Even print farms won't use brown that much in their prints and they'd be the only ones that have 100kg of waste!
The price makes it seem more plausible, though. The Artme3D kit that CNCKitchen looked at is 675 euros just for a kit. An actual assembled system isn't going to cost less than that! Not that I'm saying this is real, but 1400$ as a "just over cost to generate hype" price feels like what a working version might actually cost.
Maybe because the number of people willing to spend $700 and then get antsy about their $100 deposit is much higher and are not willing to wait as long. People putting down $100 on something they ultimately have to pay $1400 (or more) are probably going to be more patient and accept more "sorry guys, we didn't anticipate how long it would take.. " and "we want to make sure it's the highest quality, so we made some changes". They can even play the "We're not making something cheap, and quality takes time. You don't want some cheap, disposable product do you?" card. They'll even convince other backers to guilt those people asking for a refund ("It's just $100! Don't buy Starbucks for a week!"). We've seen it happen with other Kickstarter/Pre-Orders/etc. Get a few (gullible) true believers and they can kick the can down the road for YEARS. Every few months they just have to put out a "This is an email I never wanted to write but I have to be transparent with you guys. Our supplier didn't meet our high standards so we had to find another. Uh oh, it's Chinese New Year, so we have to wait another month to get a hold of someone new before we can start the whole process all over again." Occasionally add "We're actually losing money on the Early Bird order so please be patient" and maybe a "We've mortgaged our houses and have to do contracting work to make ends meet. Don't you feel bad for asking for your piddling $100 back?"
This 1000% looks like someone who is interested in 3d printing who’s learned what people want. But doesn’t understand how it works first hand and found a way to scam people for a few years by paying a render company to make a random model of their general description.
I saw this online, and I added it to my cart, and it said the cost was only 100 dollars, not 2k... seems very scammy to me, as they didn't say it was a deposit fee
at its price i can buy 80 filaments live for years maybe this defice will broke and never give this number of filaments add awatts of electricity
I'm extremely skeptical too but we were all skeptical about the Bambu X1 campaign too.
Weird, I just saw an ad for this for the first time, like 5 mins ago....
I don't see how little tiny blender blades would adequately shred 3D prints or at least the majority of a 3D print. I could see the blades impacting the models and tossing them around more than actually shredding them. (Their goofy render even shows benchies just being tossed around.) There's a reason why some of the fancy setups shown by creators like Dr. D-Flo use grind-style mechanisms (like a paper shredder) for destroying the 3D prints.
Looks like they are re-writing physics......
im so glad you did a video on this. I just saw an ad today and my "too good to be true" alarms were going off so I didn't pre-order. I really hope its real but....yeah
Also could this just be viral marketing for the design studio? Seems competent and the product name itself is similar to that of the design company.
This definitely seems like a student project that's gotten out of hand...
yeah, like someone in uni learning 3d modelling designed this for class. and one of their friends had the genius idea "lets make ourselves a scam"....
100% scam.
They can make all the promises they like but without a way of holding them accountable, their promises are worthless. Any company that wants my money had better be willing to pick up a phone.
Considering you can buy 1Kg spools of PLA for $9 if you shop around, that's over 160 home-recycled spools you're going to have to produce before you break even (and that's excluding the electricity cost). The whole rendered simulation just screams "scam!" A junk PLA recycler is one of those dream things that people would love to see, but just like care engines that run on tap water, they belong in fantasy land. We all want quality PLA, so expecting this thing to filter out impurities and other junk while producing a filament at a perfect diameter is too much to ask. Well done for posting a warning.
I never buy anything from websites using those “Jane Doe just bought XYZ” popups, that’s a huge red flag for me.
i'm surprised it doesn't say retail price £2000.. "on sale for the next 16:54:14..." for £30...
regarding the noise dampening, if you go to starbucks they have a shield they put over the blender which does cut the noise down a lot. it's not a little door thing tho, it's like a big bin thing that fits over top.
Pop ups of people "per-ordering"
No details about the creator
No details about who is working on this project
No details and or indepth workings on how they got to where they are today
No indication of any prototype and or previous prototypes.
Only showing renders.
This pretty much fits every box this is a scam. I hope people do not back this product..
The spool is either very small or the filament is way bigger/thicker than we are used to 😂😂
*INHALES DEEPLY*
“SCAAAAAAMMMMM!”
if you did this type of recycling you would separate your waste
100%
2:36 In my experience, a majority of sites that have that sort of "X just bought Y!" are scam sites trying to entice you into buying their product with fake hype. Not all of them, but a very large portion of them...
Love the reviews and videos. I learn SOOOOO much for you! thank you
another channel has a filament maker, they're reusing their spools
this dropped literally an hour before your video
*"Can you print (with) your spools?"*
Oh that took me a long time to realize the title did not in fact say “3D Scan”
Very suspect. No owner or contact information is wild. Sounds like they are seeing how much demand the product has before they start making it. Not sure if they can actually pull it off if it's not already a scam
I used to work with injection moulding machines. The only way I can think of to make this work is if you had a heated Archimedes screw with a hopper feeding in the pellets/chips of plastic. The screw would drive the melted plastic to an extruder and then a mechanism to cool and spool the extruded product. None of which would be cheap or I would imagine suitable for home use. But hey maybe someone will come up with a usable home version but I don't think this is going to be it
Material separation and contamination will also be a huge issue!
Even if it was real, that is a lot of money for a machine that the average hobbyist would never recoup. I print about 10 rolls per month, but have almost no waste. The other problem which you pointed out is the mixing of filament types, and then even within one type the colors. If one is a typical user all you would probably get is some muddy brown
I'd like this to be real but my scamsense is tingling so hard I fell out of my chair.
In 5 years Bambu Labs will make this, but it will have automatic Material separation using super LiDar scanning. It will dehydrate the filament for you, package it, and take only 10 seconds to set up out of the box.
But it will still cost $1500
Ive seen the respool filament machine before and its enormous, I assume this is some type of paper shredding machine but Im not too sure who this is gona work, still I will keep sending my fail prints to my recycling unit in my town.
If they even send a product out, I guarantee it's just a blender with a regular extruder underneath it.
As someone that works on the same building where industrial side molding machine work making plastic and fiberglass parts I can see this is one gimmick product.
This smells like high quality snake oil!
There are a lot of parts that don't seem to fit well together, like the filter is gonna get clogged often requiring constant cleaning, where is the shredded plastic being moved and how is the already shredded plastic going to be moved around to get adequately heated and given how it comes out at the end you will have to cool it down drastically and manually insert the extruded filament through the sensors which look very small and may not work.
I would need a whole tear down video of how this works and does it actually work well if it exists in the first place
They probably think they can solve the challenges with enough cash, or it's no loss to them either way. I doubt the final product is going to look anything like that if it ever exists.
On the plus side, you could hook it up to your Kokoni Sota.
I still feel there must be a way of using a metal hopper with heaters attached and small holes in the bottom and some hydraulic pressure on the top to press melted filament through the holes, with a spinning blade that cuts the used filament in to pellets, so you can use them in a REAL filament making device without going through the tedious process of using a blender or what-ever to chop your failed prints in to bits.
You should reserve one.. for science 😂
This is a real PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!
Scam? Maybe. If you are preordering it’s a gamble. They obviously haven’t finished the functional engineering aspect of the device, which is why they are doing a preorder. To get funding, but there’s no certainty that it’s feasible. if you are preordering a product that’s isn’t fully developed, you are investing, and that has risk.
Legitimate Kickstarters usually have a working physical prototype. Even business investors would want to see a prototype before they fund full scale production.
I have not problem paying more, later, after the vetting process has finished by other, much more qualified users. Even if we stipulate that it's absolutely a real product soon to ship... there are a lot of products where it's mostly as advertised, but yet with enough disappointments that you wouldn't have actually bought it if you'd known everything. I'll wait. Thanks for the video.
A blind man could see this is a scam. IF somehow they are seriously trying to make a product, then LOL it will fail big time.
Maybe it would be better if they removed the blending function and kept only the filament melting, since we all have a blender anyway, and that way they could lower the price.
Filament Keurig. Sounds like a job for Bambu. This would be great for single color or type. I use alot of Desert tan matte PLA by Bambu. I love the concept.
UJ you are a Rockstar!!
If you get one of those machines you will need to build yourself a magnetic separator for all of your mixed materials.
The whole website screams scam. Every single thing about it is far too polished, the render is of something that is designed to look appealing not function, the buyers are fake. Everything screams scam.
I just posted about this on my IG too. I'm glad you make a video about it because I wasn't gonna do it! lol
The “Person bought LOOP” thing is fake, a ton of websites do the same thing
This is "The Day Before" game of 3d printing
The website use an AI generated image as backdrop for the product, and the little "ordered" popups that show up doesn't call the shopify API at all after load so that is 100000% not a legit company.
This pre order business model has to stop
If they cannot even be honest about the size of the machine, you can assume the rest is also bunk.
It is VERY common for websites to use whois privacy protection. This is because when you don't you open yourself up to a metric ton of letter mail from scammy companies stating that your website is about to expire and you need to renew it. Conveniently accepting card info. And calls. And emails. It's egregious. So I wouldn't say that using whois protection is a good indication of if a company is a scam.
That render of the machine sitting on the table is BS. Look at the size of the spool and then look at the pens and pencils in the cup. If that’s a 1kg spool then I’m a monkeys uncle. This tells me that they don’t even have an assembled machine to take a photo of. Yep, I’m out, not going to waste my money on this scam.
This screams *SCAM* from the get-go. But always appreciated the time and effort taken to explain the details as to why. 🔥
Ah, the group buy cancer seeping its way in to yet another hobby. As a custom mechanical keyboard enthusiast, all I can say is to be extremely cautious of stuff like this, especially if the project is being managed by an unknown creator, manufacturer, or vendor.
lol the animation of the machine spinning the teams couldn't even take the extra time to render it without sampling noise.
Incredibly hard to imagine this is anything other than a wild dream. However, if it ends up being real, and can actually produce something capable of being printed, they will have just obtained the holy grail of 3d printing! So many people would happily drop $2000 on such a device. Because the current state of small scale recycling is borderline worth the effort and cost for all but the most die hard.
I'm still excited about the tiny maker release
I might have a video update coming next week :) was backer #13 or something like that
Gotta be a scam. The "Bob from Cheyenne, WY just bought..." was the cincher for me. This will never be seen. Nor will your $100.
Thanks for the content!
Great work!
I think a lot of us would love to get a product like this. Would be awesome if LDO had a shredder kit.
Yeah. Once this thing is actually released, I'll consider buying it. Until then, I'll keep putting my scraps and failures in the Hefty Orange Bags and tossing them in the recycling.
AUTOMATIC LITTER BOXES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO COOK YOUR CATS TOO.
No links to the scam/filament recycler? Damn that's cold.
Thanks for the video and the explanation of the individual „magic“ components. I didn’t see this on social media before, but that definitely looks fishy.
I don't buy anything novel until the actual hardware has gone past reputable reviewers. No reviewers, no credibility.
All the images are 3D renders. No behind the scenes or actual mechanics, it's just questionable all around.
Not sure if next layer is a benchmark for things being more difficult than they actually are 😅
100% a scam, anyone of a minimal competence level would actually build a render (or contract someone else to build it) that at least roughly matches the provided dimensions. It looks like the size of a desktop PC tower compared to the spool but the stated dimensions are significantly larger. The Kokoni Sota was a more real product than this will ever be.
This is real. I sent them $100.00 and got thank you note. It said "Thank you for your donation".
The metal is vibranium it has sound deadening properties 😂
That product looks too small and compact for what I think you would need. That said, technically, all you should have to have is kitchen, garbage, disposal, motor, some type of hot plate, or other heating element and then something like a hot glue gun that would prove it to a roller
This dovetails nicely with Thomas Slam-Dancener's latest video
bottom section of the box that is open looks like a pure dust trap.. lol.. i am sure we seen something like this a few years ago..