Tales Series RANKED from EASIEST to HARDEST
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2021
- This is my personal ranking of all the main Tales of games from easiest to hardest. I believe most Tales (if not all) are somewhat challenging to a degree, but some are definitely harder than others.
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This video came out a couple of months before Tales of Arise. I've played that game and it's HARD. I think it would definitely be in the first five places of my list, but definitely not the first. I still feel at least Xillia 2 and Graces are harder, but that's just me.
Yeah, they just push you to buy some dlc with double xp or +5lvl or sorta. Just add 5 lvls, and game'll become normal, not hard.
Have you tried Tales of Destiny on the ps2 yet ? I think it's the hardest tales game I've ever played .
Attacking according to weaknesses can make ot break your battles , enemies can exploite the game just as much as you do , and most spells are devastating . Also , enemies have revenge values , if you kept landing continuous combos , they eventually break from them and counter with a powerful attack .
Odd. Arise was the first Tales game I finished and I found it to be really easy. The easiest of the ones I have played so far.
Combat system of Arise is not so hard. Easier then Zestiria and even Berseria. All u need is all the characters and some skills. Or, u can obuse Alfen fire attacks and kill all in game. (and yeah u can get ultra weapon in post game. And then even Chaos becomes easy mode)
arise is definitely harder than zestiria or berseria, but xillia 2 imo is easier. the bosses barely have any hp there they die quickly.
Graces was hard, but it was so satisfying! I remember being panicked that they dropped TP for CC, but fell in love.
i hear you on that! but once you worked it out, you could just string endless combos with ease and flair! by far my favourite tales game in terms of the combat system
@@nathannowicki5336 agreed 100%. Definitely the hardest I've played, but definitely the most rewarding and satisfying.
Came here to post just this!
Its hard, but its rewarding, somehow it makes more sense to me than the newer games. Zestiria and Berseria I have a hard time grasping, halfhearted Buttonmashing works, but in Graces all my moves feel deliberate and rewarding.
@@jonasstenbergkarlsson6061 I actually (in my first playthrough) found Zestiria to be extremely difficult! I think I was really reluctant to utilize the Armatization feature through the entire game lol 😂 Berseria was just button mashing for me. Magilou “LOOK, A SHOOTING STAR!” Over and over and over the whole game.
I have a playthrough(s), where all I'm doing now is running around to get the Eleth to pop me out herbs so I can max the stats. I've maxed all the titles and I know the exact word paths I take with gear. Honestly the easiest was to abuse combat in that game was to make gear with dodge/evade on it and eventually you couldn't be hit even on the highest difficulty. One of the only things I disliked was that you have to use the joystick so much in combat for your combos. Berseria had a great idea when it came to being able to customize your combos.
I guess I just loved Grace’s battle system so much I didn’t notice the difficulty lol
Felt the same way, but it really wasn't that hard, just different, once it clicked, I had so much fun.
I love Grace and doesn't feel the difficulty at all, probably because it was my 2nd Tales games and wasn't so fixed into the previous systems yet XD
My first was Vesperia but I didn't get the chance to finish it because I played it in one of my friend's shop's console, it broke down before I finish the game :(
I’m currently playing it on moderate challenge or whatever it is. I didn’t notice it being hard so it’s why I moved it up from normal, my first tales games. I played it many years ago but never finished,
I also play lots of souls games and other games in hard difficulties so maybe that’s why
Literally same here.
@@jonathantkyong8157 EYYYY literally me too man. First was Vesperia for me, then I played graces. Those two made me look into the other tales games of the series and man... We def played the best ones when we were younger. Vesperia and Graces are the best Tales when it comes to gameplay and mechanics.
Symphonia actually has one of the hardest early game experience iirc
I didn't play any other after Abyss but Symphonia is very easy. Maybe what you say apply to the later ones... but I'm an early Tales Of player, who started in the 2d games, and they are harder at first time than Symphonia.
@@carlosaugusto9821c hi you ttytt
Zestiria was like trying to understand old books like Shakespeare or Dante's Inferno while doing a handstand and juggling 3 watermelons in the air. Why they tried to make it so convoluded is beyond me. It wasnt hard to beat but trying the harder difficulties was painful.
Berseria on the other hand was like a where-is-waldo book, once you found him everything became easy.
Zestiria isn't hard and people who struggle with it just need to get good imo because it is far better than the simplistic systems of the older games and its a skill issue imo. They dont do dumb things like fake difficulty aka hp sponges. However its not without issues. Some things can be annoying like this...
1) The battle camera
2) Bosses gain a god mode of sorts when at low health
3) Petrification. It can't be cured with panacea bottles so if you get hit by it there's literally nothing you can do but let the character die
Graces F and Xillia 2 aren't difficult either. If you learn their systems they are fantastic and reward you unlike Arise
Zestiria's system lacked satisfaction. Lousy tutorials and uninteresting equipment didn't help either. Other than that the game isn't very hard besides the occasional garbage solo fight (and you can just overlevel and come back). Bosses getting long periods of i-frames during certain attacks is just dumb.
Ludger is still my favourite character ever to play, he's the only one I could ever hit 200+ hit combos with no problems especially with his weapon swapping which makes him technically Dante in Tales of universe, not to mention having Devil Trigger transformation too. He kinda make it hard to play other characters though which is why in Xillia 1 I actually used everyone equally but in 2 it's just too good not to use Ludger coz he can manipulate any enemy weakness with just weapon switching and choosing the right elemental artes.
Tales of Destiny Director's Cut got an english fan translation a couple weeks ago.
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Is it completely finished ? Iknow the game was finished but it was like beta version people were still testing bugs and whatnot like a month or 2 ago.
It's not finished, but it's fully playable. I'm about halfway through.
@@Kennosuke88 the translation pretty much at 100%. I think there's only a minigame and the sinopsis left to translate and it seems they're already working on Destiny 2.
I might have to check it out then.
I remember in Xillia 2 I was playing on the hardest difficulty available for a first playthrough, you have that 1st fight against Chronos, he oblitered me in 10 seconds, I was like "Oh this is one of those 'you cannot win this fight it is too hard but you'll win later in the game' but no, you have to beat him right now, I was shocked.
Still winnable tho, I did it and it helped me get a better understanding of the game mechanics.
Tales of Grace was the first Tales of game I completed. Man that was such a ride! The game can be really ruthless at times, especially the after story. But it's game mechanics are the reasons I got hooked. So damn satisfying
Love all these Games, Graces combat was Genius, also super rewarding on Choas mode. Also love the diverse character personalities in all the games.
Agreed completely about Graces. I don't know why everyone likes that style so much. I gave up on the game even though I loved the story.
You'll hate Arise then. Its combat is supposed to be similar to the dodge counter mechanics that Graces worked off of.
guess it clicks with people more into technical combat (like good fighting games) since it's my favourite Tales battle system by a landslide. I can imagine it being too hard if you're not really into that. In my case I really disliked the clunky Vesperia combat system only getting fun when using some kind of cancels hidden in the game to make it a bit more fluid
Playing Tales of Arise currently on hard mode for my first playthrough and sheeeeeesh. Easily the toughest time ive had with a tales game, gives me hard mode star ocean vibes. Im looooving the game though, working its way up to being my favorite tales game
I played the SNES Tales of Phantasia, the encounter rate of Tales of Destiny has NOTHING on it. Every 2-3 steps there was a battle in ToP.
Yeah the GBA release did make it slightly less with the encounter rates lol
yeah its amazing how modern emulators with fast forward are enabling me to enjoy these games. if all you have to do is hold down the attack button to beat a fight, it's not a fight worth fighting.
You can just use Holy Bottles for fewer encounters
Graces huh. That was my first Tales game. But I never really noticed the difficulty, mainly probably because I had so much fun with it.
Speaking of, where is my Graces F remaster, along with Xillia and its sequel. Bring those to Steam and I’ll be happy
I've beaten every official tales but berseria.
Been a major fan of the series for over 20yrs when my uncle gave me his old computer with tons of snes games on it with tales of phantasia.
Oh man, you gotta finish Berseria. As with most Tales, that end dungeon is a bit of a slog, but it wraps up so well. Easily one of my favorite jrpg stories on the modern era.
@@War624 And overall, it probably has the best team of characters!
I didn't finish Berseria aswell. At some point Velvet just started to annoy me to no end. The battles weren't thaat much fun either. BUT i aknowledge that it's a popular entry in the series, just not for me. I think, i just don't like revenge plots, i can't get behind the concept of revenge
@@Ultimabuster92 yeah she's hard to get into as the main character.
She starts out great until the prison escape she gets super dark and almost evil which makes her hard to get into.
Though I recommend either tales of grace f which isn't as hard as this video made it seem with such an amazing story and tales of hearts r which is also super amazing.
Those 2 are my favorites out of them all
@@noname72390 Oh Tales of Graces f was my first ever Tales game. I knew of Symphonia and Phantasia before playing Graces f though. Tales of Hearts R... i think, i have to pass. If only it was available on more systems, because i'd be interested, but as things are now, i'll probably won't play it
Tales of Xillia : Have Milla and Jude linked, Milla cant be knocked down in air, and you finish comboing in air without nearly never touching ground . Tales of Xillia 2 is nearly the same system abuse and milla is just overpowered. I dont remember having any dificulties to finish caos mode , all cameos and ex dungeons.
Yep. Milla is one of the most broken and easiet characters I ever played in gaming
I just used Gaius in Xillia 2
And if you wanna reverse it, Jude's snap pivot is crazy good and Milla's bind can affect even the final boss to make them your punching bag. You can just Palm Strike spam and Milla will bind every time they stun.
Also put Elize in the party, set her strats to "Use Spirit Artes only", and deactivate the offensive Artes and bam. You get Nurse and and Dispel galore.
I had so much trouble on Zesty's final boss but then I turned off the Half and Half skill and despite having to heal constantly, it was kind of a cakewalk
From my experience, from easiest to hardest:
1) xillia 1
2) symphonia 2
3) xillia 2
4) berseria
5) zesteria
6) vesperia
7) abyss
8) graces f
9) symphonia 1
My list is the exact same as you.
I've only played Symphonia and it was the easiest rpg I've ever played... I did however do an auto grind early on (easy to do with rubber bands strapped across the gamecube controller) but I did that because I really hated the battle system with all the kiddie scream sounds
@@tommj4365 I don't know which RPGs you played, but Tales is generaly easy and forgiving franchise to begin with, so thats probably Syhmphonia was the easiest RPG you played.
Good video.
I think Abyss was the hardest for me (I always put Tales games on Hard difficulty). Maybe Zestiria but more because of camera angles.
I disagree with Grace I found it easy and played on Chaos difficulty. You just have to guard until you get a red aura and then you can shatter enemy's guards no problem.
Agreed, and even then if you somehow still struggle in Graces, just dualize some equipment a few times, the stat boosts should be more than enough to help people out.
A bit surprised you ranked Graces f the hardest, until I checked my trophies. Apparently, only 39,7% of players completed chapter 8. I really enjoyed Legendia as well, and I think it has the best soundtrack, by far. Go Shiina=)
Literally I was looking for this last week hahaha thanks for the videos
Can you do this again but for the best stories?
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Imo the best story (out of those I played) is a tie between Berseria and Vesperia.
@@DaakkuuYRS Nah Vesperia had the best character writing* but the story/plot itself wouldn't stand on its own
@@tedphantasia4387 Berseria had excellent character development if you put in context that Velvet knew right at the end of the prologue that she wasn't ever going to be the good guy. She knew her methods and motivations weren't right and the fact she was saving the world was secondary to her desire for revenge.
@@Kmmlc Can't deny that, but I was just mentioning how good the character writing in Vesperia is
It's simple. If I see a new Erick Landon Tales video, I immediately click.
Same
"Tales of Graces is the hardest one to play"
That may explained why I had so much fun. The system is so well done it doesn't really feel hard at all to me. The progression makes you understand it quite well and it's almost weaved into the difficulty curve imo. Of course some monsters and bosses will still hand over your ass to you but that's great.
PS: Pascal is best Tales Of girl.
Tales of the Abyss is actually quite hard at the start, especially when it comes to the economy, weapons and gels are expensive as HECK
combat wise its the easiest... but I have to agree... weapons there are like 6 digits... I used a cheat for gald... lol....
This is true! I'm playing this game right now :)
Combat wise Graces is still the best in the series, and got the platinum for both the N/A and E/U versions. Loved this game.
Phantasia was the first tales game I played on the gba fell in love right away after that was symphonia on gcube those two together made me play everyone up to date I think if I didn’t play those two first I might not have the love for the series that I do
I'm about 70 hours into Zestiria now after spending like 200 on Berseria, and I gotta say, knowing what little I do about the history of these games, I'm really glad they took such extreme risks with Graces! Berseria's combat is definitely my favorite, and I can see how they looked at the combat in Zestiria and went "okay, this isn't great but we CAN polish it into something great," but based on the way people talk about Graces I'm shocked that they iterated on it at all again ever.
Berseria's system just felt like a really excellent puzzle to me; the game taught me just enough to practice and experiment on my own, & for the whole game I was gradually learning new things and improving. The progression felt just right, & they fixed some things about Zestiria (ESPECIALLY re: combos, both your own and the ones enemies can throw at you) that really made it work for me.
I haven't played Abyss in years, but I remember it being reasonably easy to get by in, but difficult to master (& not really in a fun way? but that could have just been me). Whenever I end up revisiting it I'm gonna crank the difficulty up & test it out!
The amount of tech outs bosses do in Vespseria DE is kind of nutty, not to mention they have void attack, which randomly allows them to get out of hit stun in the middle of your combo's. I swear the amount of BS the bosses have sometimes makes me want to throw my controller lol.
Yay! Tales of Destiny Remake has a fan translation completed!!!!!
Out of all Tales games, Xillia 2 always sticks out because of its gameplay and main battle theme. That shit goes so hard that it became my permanent battle theme for Tales of Arise 😅
Interesting! I haven't played many of the Tales games yet, but I played Destiny earlier this year and I found it quite easy actually. I don't think I got wiped out once now that I think about it. I was expecting it to be lower on the list, so that really surprised me!
Crap, I thought this was for the "Trails" series. A video for that series would be awesome in whatever context you like. The world needed a dedicated JRPG channel and you've answered the call! I salute you sir
I'm currently playing Berseria at the moment, my first Tales game. I set the difficulty to hard but it still feels easy after 20 hours of playing, just wish party members were more clever giving strategy more options. One thing that annoyed me was when the AI was controlling Velvet and activated break soul and let her health drop to 1hp, so I stopped the AI from doing break soul in strategy menu. Might get harder later on, story is great though.
Velvet🥰
The story is very rewarding in Berseria. And I loved controlling Velvet in battle because you could customize the combos to the enemies. It took me a year to realize that to get the double combo (the chain) you had to hold down the button after the first one.
The game's pretty fun to play amd the story is pretty good though it has inconsistent writing imo. Some scenes are great, some are cringe, but mostly they're good.
Also, try using Eizen if you want the game to be harder
Tales of Berseria was pretty easy to me overall, but there was one boss fight where I had to just run Velvet around to keep her alive and let my party kill the boss. That took more than half an hour.
I actually found dawn of the new world is really enjoyable to catch monster to add to your party right now I already have bear as team member
True and Tenebrae is pure delight. for his skits alone this game deserves more Recognition, wish he would make a cameo in a more modern tales game.
Oh hell yeah. That bear is AWESOME when you evolve it a couple of times and level it up. Combat was easy for me late game. I also had a spider, and it was okay, but in retrospect, if I ever play through the game again, I think I'll try to get two bears because the bear was so good. =p
@@Mr._Matt really i was trying to catch spider to add to my team
@@TheNawaf258 Small world! It's pretty good.
My only real issue is that we didn't get to see the other Centurion's in their awaken forms. Other than that I did enjoy it, hated the controls for the Wii but now that it's been remastered for Chronicles I'm sure it's better (I've yet to play it again, i just bought the two when it came out lol)
Very surprised to see Graces and Xillia 2 considered to be so hard. I definitely lost more battles in the Symphonia games than I did in either of those 2 games. Graces had my favorite combat system and was also the only one I bumped the difficulty up on (because iirc, you also got significantly more drops or exp or something for winning on higher difficulty which really helped make Graces go smoothly). And Symphonia I definitely remember having to grind up a lot just to get past that first fire seal boss, though Symphonia gets easier in mid-late game. But Symphonia has the honor of being the only Tales game that I've taken time specially dedicated to grinding levels.
If I had to rank the ones I've played so far from easiest to hardest I'd probably go:
Xillia
Abyss
Xillia 2
Graces
Vesperia
Zestiria
Symphonia DotNW
Symphonia
Phantasia (GBA version - controls are garbage)
What really made me ragequit Tales of Vesperia is the fact that Enemies don't stagger and tank your combos, while they easily can smack you...
The TP usage on that game is horrendous... a single arte cost like 30 ish... (KAROL) TP regeneration on that is BAD TOO.. lol... I dont know if I can continue... its worning me out...
@@erickreyes7902 yeah... Gotta admit that I prefer to gain tp also when attacking blocking enemies, not just for me liking it but for overall gameplay balance
I would love to see you rank the tales optional boss battles
Tales of Symphonia as completionist like me is the hardest one especially when trying to get all achievements ingame, it took me 200+ hours gameplay and require 4 different playtrough for different endings, and the easiest one is Tales of Berseria because basically it's a button mashing for easy combo and healing arte become useless in that game.
Only Velvet is button mash
I love Tales of Legendia so much, and it makes me kind of sad that its sort of the black sheep in the US(at least according to most interactions I've had with people about the game).
By the end of berseria I find that is one of the easiest to abuse the combat system, velvet is basically immortal when you transform since any thing that could kill you leaves you at 1 HP BUT you can heal back up by absorbing damage with the skill that actually transforms you!. It becomes a loop that even restores your souls so until the boss gets out of the way you can solo any boss in the game with velvet. I remember several times I finished a fight with everyone dead but velvet just because she is literally unkillable if you keep your combo
I didn't finish all of Tails games, but i DID beat Graces quite recently. Now knowing it's the hardest one, i'm glad it's out of the way lol :D
Some people would definitely disagree that Graces is the hardest one. This is just in his opinion. I think Graces is one of the easiest games actually.
@@ThundagaT2 i agree, for me it was easy as well, never understood why people consider it as difficult
@@ChronoTerranigma maybe I'm to stupid for the battle system. I died alot and it frustrated me alot, that i thought asbel was so damn slow in attacking, compared to other Tales of Protagonist characters. Everyone has other things they are better in even in such games. just thought every other tales of game was much easier for me. xD
@@SteffiAkira Asbel has special mechanics regarding when he unsheathes his sword, and the system is really based around hitting weaknesses, dodging and countering, and using guard breaks. The easy exploit (time consuming as all hell though) was to Dualize your gear in a way that would maximize dodge and evasion stats. I got the the point that in one playthrough on the hardest difficulty the last boss was lucky to even hit me. It was just as bad for them in the post game dungeon.
Always love watching your vids mate 😁 👍🏻 and i agree with you Tales of Graces f definitely deserves top spot for being the hardest Tales of games. To me my easiest Tales of game I've played and completed a few times has to be Zesteria i just found it too easy for my liking and that's on Normal mode. 😁👍🏻
“Tales games are know for being pretty challenging”
As a major fans since Tales of Vesperia (who also played older games) I never knew that. Guess I enjoyed them all so much I over leveled too much.
Tales of the tempest definitely needs a remake
Berseria was the easiest for me mainly because of how overpowered Velvet is
100% agreed, but I really enjoyed it anyway
Velvet is powerful but I forget the samurai guy's name now. If you learnt how to use him was unstoppable, rokurou was it? I can't remember now. His counter ability was lethal.
I'm currently playing tales of hearts r and eternia on vita. I would definitely say eternia has by far been the hardest out of all tales games. Iv played every tales game and this one is tricky. If you get hit your stunned or flying up the air like a rag doll and it's clunky as hell...Still so fun to grind though !
Berseria is my fave❤❤❤
thank you so much you earned my subscription for saying that you like tales of symphonia: DotNW i love this game so much its my favorite game in the tales series and idk why but besides tales of Xillia 1 it was the only game in the series that pushed me to finish it
Yaaas, it's my favorite game, too. I've played the first one and Vesperia, so I might not have much of a history with Tales, it's still my fave. Definitely not the worst
I don't know...I loved Graces F and didn't find it overwhelming or anything, though my completionist/grindy tendencies probably paid off, as I made it a goal of mine to obtain and master every title for every character. This naturally resulted in me grinding arts-usage sometimes, and after playing the battle system enough you learn to do just incredible things with it. I played through it again with my mom some years later (on easy, of course, since she doesn't play action rpgs), and she didn't really have much trouble.
Zestiria is the only Tales game I've played where I remember having intense frustration and cursing, and I mostly remember it in an optional dungeon that has a lot of really mean harpy enemies. I hated the skill system but grinded until I eventually had more or less ideal equipment for everyone using it. I also remember running around popping herbs for Sorey until he had max stats. Started on Lailah too, but ran out of patience before I ever saw a fusion with all 19998 stat values (did get strength there though). Even then you're still far from invincible on the highest difficulty.
Oh I started with Graces f and got the platinum, it's been a while but it had me hooked for 130+ hours iirc. Guess I should get back to ToX2 at some point.
I remember how I loved to just use Collette as my lead character in Symphonia and spam Para Ball. I even beat the final boss using it. XD
Is Collette the one that use dual wield weapon?
Actually I found (maybe by luck) Legendia to be one of the easiest.
My favorite character Jay, I found one of his skills so broken since it always gets you on the other side of enemies and thanks to that they pretty much become useless to him.
REMINDER PEOPLE that the Lumina Project is in the works to fan translate the ToD director's cut and ToD2 on PS2.
Another team called Life Bottle Productions actually already has a working build of ToD DC up and running! It is already 98% done with the last few parts needed just being the synopsis so if you don't care about that, you can already start playing!
Gonna have to disagree with you about Symphonia 2 being more responsive and less clunky than Symphonia 1. Emil's basic attacks pushed enemies so far away I actually observed him having to take a step or two closer to perform the arte follow-up (which would still frequently straight-up miss because semi-auto didn't bring him close enough to land them). The physics in general felt floatier and more awkward, like they hadn't quite programmed momentum correctly and characters sometimes just felt like they were translating/sliding through the air instead of leaping or falling under the proper effects of gravity.
That part with Arche and the switch in Dhaos Castle is the hardest challenge in any Tales game
Playing Zestiria right now and I'm pretty used to the combat system. When you're armatized and attacking an enemys weakness, you can do some serious damage. The thing thats most confusing about the game is the strange skill/equipment system but I just ignore it and put on whatever boosts my stats the most. Definitely not looking forward to the final boss after what you said though lol
I hope you do more of these easiest to hardest for more series
Tales of Graces F was the best battle system, making combos and side stepping out of attacs was so satisfactory, maybe that is why i liked zestiria so much, and did'nt quite like berseria
Tales of Arise is supposed to follow a more Graces like combat system.
@@Kmmlc That'd be awesome. I love Graces. Not my favourite Tales game, but definetly up there
I have HUGE sentiment to Tales of Destiny - as 6 years old kid, non-english native player, with no itnernet I had Love-hate relationship with game. Sometimes I played few weeks and stuck at 15% of game, then I had long break and after few months I played again from beginning doing 25% of game, then 33% then again more and more but I never finished it xD Sometimes I was walking for hours on map from location to location, from NPC to NPC trying to find anything that I can interact with to go further, because I wasn't able to understand what they talk about :D
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World was actually the first Tales game I played, because my sisters bought it without knowing it was a sequel. Everyone craps on it , but it was actually really fun. Monster recruiting was unique and interesting, especially since each one came with their own name, and I really treasured the ones that stayed on my team. My favorite thing to do in combat was sky combo the crap out of enemies and end with a mid-air Arte. A lot of the time, I’d get a straight, uninterrupted 12-hit combo or more just doing that.
Tales of Graces F combat system is the deepest one and I found the one I felt most pulled to master because of how challenging it was. Once I got good at it I found the challenge dropped...sort of....slipping up could still be quite unforgiving. It was the Tales game I pushed myself most to master the combat system for as others I could kind of sleep walk through non-boss encounters.
I also loved the combat in Xillia 2.
Arise I like for the same reason, because it forces me to play well.
I always try to make my own challenges in games if I like the combat system. For example, no overgrinding and no (over)using a broken mechanic. That's what I did in Vesperia on hardmode and made the game much more difficult, but also more fun to beat.
Abyss has some of the hardest optional boss's in the entire series, Nebilim being unquestionably the most difficult boss In the game and probably one of if not the hardest boss of the entire series, it also has the most difficult cameo fight of the entire series.
Tales of Eternia was the first Tales game I ever played. I LOVED that game, I would repeatedly play it again and again. I loved the story, and even the voice acting. I remember fighting Nerid.. or was Nered, either way, the God of Darkness. The first time I fought her, she opened a hole in the sky and a sword appeared out of it and crashed into the ground. Everyone who was caught in the blast had their hp reduced to 1. I loved every single minute of that boss fight. It's the most memorable boss I have ever had in a game. I replayed it a while back. The first fight in the game against her, she pulled the sword from the sky and all of my party had their hp dropped to 1. Next thing I knew, she killed everyone but Reid and I had to restore his health and get everyone backup. I did, and I "defeated" her. It's still my most favorite Tales game along with Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Vesperia. I love Vesperia's opening music though, it's awesome.
Good timing, i just finished berseria
I remember Vesperia actually being really hard early because there was some advanced technique that you had to do that the game didn't teach you to beat the first boss (on hard anyways). You had to start free running after a combo or something to cancel the immense after-lag. I definitely tried that boss a good amount of times until I was like all right hold up and had to look up info and found that technique out, lol.
I thought I was the only one! First encounter Zagi is such a menace that I ended up learning that purely by accident. I'm still not 100% sure it's intentional, but the other characters seem to have similar equivalents to the run attack free run cancel.
glad to hear im not the only one who enjoys DOTNW I love that game so much IE Symphonia 2. There is so much hate from other people for that game and ive never understood it. Its a challenge its unique and different and i love it for that. I have fond memories of that game.
Tales of Grace F is the most difficult one so far.
But, it is also the only title of Tales that I fondly remember as if I was playing Tri-ace game.
In terms of the 2D ones, all of them can be easily broken when you acquire manual control and can just jump and downslash pretty much every enemy lmao. I try not to do it, but when you're in a jam it makes for a cheap escape.
I recently beat Graces F. I feel like a lot of people have trouble with the battle system (myself included) because Tales trains us to understand the mechanics of creating combos, and requires a skillset similar to a fighting game. Graces F is much more methodical and does most of the combo work for you but the tradeoff is that it expects you to concentrate MUCH more on choosing the right at the right time.
Honestly? It's neat but I prefer older Tales. My favourite system is probably either Symphonia or Abyss. The series has been trending in a bit more restrictive of a direction. The 2D games were broken AF but it ended up feeling really fun by the end when you'd created your perfect combo chain to stunlock enemies. Newer games force you to play by their rules and don't allow you to break things as much - which is half the fun of any jrpg for me!
Came here to see where Tales of Graces was ranked...I expected MAYBE halfway through or towards the beginning, but the most difficult? pfft!
Sorry Erick, but Tempest is an Escort (aka spin-off) game, not a Mothership (aka mainline) one.
It used to be a mainline until Namco-Bandai degraded it to spin-off and made the next one on the DS, Innocence, as the next mainline game.
They made that up just because of the game's reception. It was developed as a mainline game.
@@almightycinder no, it was never a mainline to begin with
it was mostly a test to see if Tales' combat system could run on the DS without too much compromises
@@almightycinder it was the Japanese media that classified it as 'mainline' but the devs themselves always envisioned it as a spin-off
Now Tales of Arise is just within pissing distance, I wonder how hard will it be. I'm excited to play it.
I've started a few Tales games but the only one I finished was Tales of Destiny I for ps1.
the ranking makes sense.
have you played scarlet nexus (full game)?
I played Graces the most, because it's extremely fun on top of being challenging. I never platinumed it, but I did beat the EX Boss in Chaos, that was grueling.
Call me strange, but I found Bersperia a ton easier to control than Vesperia. On Vesperia; this idiot couldn't get past the first training fight after multiple attempts. In Berseria, I breezed through with only the last dungeon giving me enough trouble that I would avoid normal enemy fights. There was one boss battle which took me more than half an hour to complete, though, because of that action gauge exhausting.
I never got used to the controls of those Tales Games but, I do know that Abyss is probably the longest one because, you have to do a lot of backtracking.
Hardest so far without considering Graces F that I'm missing? Zestiria on anything higher than normal. The equipment system makes it so tedious and difficult to play it at higher difficulties.
At normal you do not have to worry about the equipment system, just get the best and finish the game.
And no, I have never ever replayed a Tales of game...
yay, that the thing...Zestiria only comes up as the hardest for some people(me included) cause of its shortcomings and ,in part, really bad fighting system. if a game is hard cause of the flaws it has than that is not a good thing or a medal it should wear proudly.
@@mermidion7552 I had to play it on Normal.
Unless you abused the Dualizing in Graces (pushing for as much dodge/evade as possible), the hardest difficulty would smash you flat if you weren't ready for it. Especially the optional from menu battles.
I couldn't form a list like this without replaying all of the Tales games as I don't remember having a particularly difficult or an especially mind-numbing time with any of them. I did get lost in the older entries with no idea where to go next but that's partly because my English understanding sucked and playing games in a language you don't understand can be quite challenging lol.
I did actually attempt to replay Berseria some weeks back on the second hadest difficulty, actually not even that bad tbh. Though yeah, it's a whole different beast on Chaos (not a highest difficulty player when it comes to the series tbh).
Hardest though, probably Legendia. Played most of the main entries and I still hate Legendia's final boss...
Graces f would be a close second for me tbh, and Zestiria in third.
Your AI teammates die all the time in harder difficulties tho. How do you keep them all alive?
@@Walamonga1313 Only really played the first chapter of the story for Berseria for the "replay" (up until Logres or whatever it was), so wasn't really a problem.
Graces is use healing items I think and for Legendia heal spells are your friend (Will, Norma and Shirley).
I hated Eternia the most. Enemies don't stagger, they break you out of combos, and then use attacks that knock you down or fling you across the screen. Add in overpowered spells that can wipe out the party in seconds, and crappy AI that doesn't help cancel them, and it just became an exercise in frustration.
You don't like hearing the party making the same noises when they take damage multiple times and at the same time? Haha!
I totally agree about Tales of Destiny and Tales of Innocence. But I like them both... Such nostalgia, I'm gonna replay it again. Luckily I have emulators. 😁😁😁
I really wish I was better at combos in Tales games. I usually find a character I can play well with and it's usually the main character. Grace's battle system is probably my favorite out of all the Tales games but holy heck does that difficulty sneak up on you.
I might have just forgotten, but I don't have any particular memories of Innocence giving me any difficulty when I went through it. That said I didn't use the main character, I used the guy in the hat because he felt just like Lloyd and was a lot faster and harder hitting.
actually just, finally, finished Tales of Vesperia Sunday night. Had started it on 360 many years ago but I didn't put a lot of time into it. Then, about a year later I sold my 360. Though, I have to admit, I did skip the end game content because I wanted to get into Monster Hunter Stories 2 after finally getting a copy last week. Depending on how long Stories 2 takes I might go back and finish Vesperias end game content before Tales of Arise drops...
so glad I watched this video. I'd been meaning to replace the copy of Tales of Symphonia I sold on Gamecube years ago when it was going for like $90. I kept putting off picking it up on PS3 when it re-released and then just forgot about. literally just ordered the PS3 version.
Why does Theme of Battle play during the Eternia section? Did you get the Destiny 2s mixed up?
Can anyone tell me what the second game was in the intro? Right after Xillia 2 clip. Also newcomer to the channel and love the list.
I agree 100% with Tales of Graces being the most difficult,
Even after beating the game I didn't understand why for example if the enemy has 10,000 HP and I hit him with a combo of 5,000+5,000+5,000 he is still not dead yet 😭
The number that shows up is a tally of the total damage your whole combo was doing. It shows 5000, then 5500, that means you did 500 damage. Yeah, it confused me at first, too, especially with how the numbers pop up.
Graces wasn't that difficult once you learned how to abuse the gear enhancing system. All you have to do is put dodge/evade on all the gear up to max and even on the hardest difficulty bosses would miss more often than not.
Top 3 hardest for me were
1. Tales of Graces f
2. Tales of Phantasia (psx)
3. Tales of Destiny DC (PS2)
In phantasia Dhaos Is the Only diffuclt one
He is a badass
@@Louardi9000 The fire and ice towers had tough enemies. Magic opponents were very tough given how they can wipe your whole party.
3:59 I think when I first got to the final boss in this game (I played on hardest mode if I remember correctly) I fought it for about 7+ hours getting beat over and over before I finally beat them.
I've finished all of these except the two fan translations. I gotta get on it
Ah yes, a fellow man of culture who appreciates the greatness of Tales of Legendia. I highly doubt Bamco will ever approach it's greatness again. What an absolute gem of a game.
The postgame was a little rage inducing with no real way to quick leave dungeons. I still enjoyed the ride, though!
Yeah I completely agree with you on this one.
Graces was the only game to give me consistent game overs and punished the living hell out of me every time I made a tiny mistake. But I loved it!
Legendia, Zestiria, and Graces F have been the most punishing Tales games Ive played but damn they are fun.
I’ll never forget the first time I played Vesperia got the fell arms and proceeded to get the shit kicked out of me by Duke’s 3rd form.
When a tierl list of all NDS RPG games for ?
Xillia 1 was the most difficult to me. The final boss will wreck you if you don't figure out how to stop the healing. Took me almost a half hour back then to do so. Turned out to be a 36 minute fight... Lol. But I was victorious in the end!
I'd probably switch places between Symphonia and Berseria, Symphonia can be pretty brutal and its combat system is a mess, having your characters move in 2D while the enemies can move freely. I love this game but it's definitely not that easy 🙈
Yeh symphonia was definitely hard I've completed the game thousands of times and still never killed abyssion haha
@@Kennosuke88 Same here lmao, it can be very very hard 💀