How To: Use Battery Preconditioning on 2022+ Hyundai Ioniq 5/Kia EV6
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2023
- In this video I show you how to use the battery preconditioning system in your 2022 or newer Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Kia EV6 to preheat the battery before DC fast charging. These methods works for 2022MY cars updated by the dealer or 2022/2023 models which came from the factory with this installed. You must use POI categories to access and find charging destinations for the system to activate. Let us know how this system has been working in your Ioniq 5 if you have experience or any other tips and tricks!
Check out @TheIoniqGuy for a more detailed video covering preconditioning in the IONIQ 5!
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Really great, thanks
Very nice. Thanks.
Excellent thanks
Was directed here frim the Kia Hyundai channel. Definitely a clunky implementation. Thanks for the breakdown
They have a great channel! Thanks for coming on over and watching!
Great Video
Decent video this. Very helpful. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Good Stuff thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
great! big help👌 is it recommend to do this to avoid battery degradation??🤔 i drive 20km daily
I have a Model 3 and the Ioniq 5 and Tesla definitely made it easier! You almost need a PHD to work Hyundai's features, smh! Still love my Ioniq 5 though.
Haha thanks for watching!
is the option available on all ioniq 5 models premium version or only ultimate?
I have owned a model Y and 3. Tesla's system still requires you to think and make corrections. It often plans dumb routes that you need to correct.
Very helpful video. How about home L-2 charging? Can you pre-condition the battery before charging the I-5 at home? Thanks.
Level 1 and Level 2 charging will not benefit from preconditioning because the speeds are so slow. The battery can accept the speeds at any (most?) temperatures.
Merci, très bonnes explications. Aucune vidéo Française ne parle du préconditionnement pour le moment. C'est une honte surtout a propos du seuil des 20%.
So I just got my battery preconditioning update. And I have one of the original ionic five's rear wheel drives. Am I screwed out of battery preconditioning? because it doesn't seem to be working
The 2022MY RWD vehicles in the US do not have the hardware for battery preconditioning. Every 2023+ Ioniq vehicle does.
How would you know the battery temperature to know we need to use the preconditioning? Is the battery generally the same temperature as ambient?
Use the in-car nav on roadtrip. It will know the best temperature to be in to optimize the charging stops.
That is a fair question. I would say it is not always close to ambient depending on a few variables. I do not believe all vehicles tell you the battery temperature in detail but I know several do. Worst case is that you add the POI in the car, and it does not need to precondition because the battery is already at temps high enough.
It is hard to tell, but I heard using recuperation increases warms up the battery. So for example, if you're driving in the city, and it's 10 deg C, perhaps no preconditioning will be needed to get max speed)
@@Lascarnn Yes, regen along with aggressive driving can help to warm the battery as a large amount of energy is flowing in and out from the pack. Depending on the conditions, this may be enough to overcome the ambient temps however in most cases preconditioning will be more effective.
I have a question. How can the car adjust the temperature before charging? It can only be done with the map that comes with the car or google maps or the wave app. It can be done as well. Thank you.
It can only be done with the built in navigation at this time.
If you don't precondition how long does it take to warm up the battery at the charger?
That depends on the ambient temps and the starting temperature of the battery pack. I can't provide an exact number but it could take just 5-10 minutes or it could be slow the entire charge time.
Depending on Temperature 30-45 minutes.
Nice vidéo but please make the difference between kWh and kW
kWh is the total amount of electricity used and kW is the rate of usage.
do we have to pay for the update ? for Kia EV6 Battery Pre-Conditioning Update
Nope! It should be a dealer TSB that they can perform free of charge.
Is it possible for you to show 2 actual recording sessions in cold weather, one with it off and another after the battery has pre-conditioned. People react better when they can see it happening.
Are you talking about showing the charging speeds with and without preconditioning?
@@CarsMadeSimple Yes, That's correct. If you ever have time to record them, it would really show the viewers the actual difference so the anti-EV crowd can see that with battery preconditioning the charging speeds are way higher. They always try to bash EVs by saying the charging speeds in cold weather make EVs unusable. The more proof that battery preconditioning solves that the better. Especially if everyone out there can see the huge difference between battery preconditioning and without.
@@Paul-cj1wb 50 vs 220kw is the difference if the battery is below 10C
What is the TSB update number because I just went to the dealership and they said it was done but I think they did not do it!!! Please help me I just would like to know if there a TSB OR update number ?
There is a TSB number but I am not quite sure what it is. There are posts within the Facebook and Forums that have that information.
Should You use the battery preconditioning mode for Level 2 Charging?
There is no need as charging speeds are not quick enough to be affected.
@@CarsMadeSimple Thank You!
Will It cool the battery if it gets very hot?
I have a local charging station that has been up and running for almost 2 years and is still not a POI I can choose
POI's are added every time a software/navigation update is done. Sometimes it takes an update or two but if it hasn't been added, you can reach out to them and see if they can get it added in the next update.
Can't the battery pre-condition when you plug into a charger? It might take a slightly longer, but it would make sense that it would optimize the battery while at the charger also.
This takes time and time saving is the point of "pre-conditioning". If you wait until charging to optimize the battery temperature then you will spend much longer charging. It's better to waste a couple percent of battery then to wait another 5,10, 15+ minutes charging at low speeds depending on how cold the battery is.
@@CarsMadeSimple Yes, I said it might take slightly longer, but my assumption is that it still tries to warm the battery. My car will only pre-condition above 20% charge. So if I am below that % my hope would be that the battery is still optimized while charging rather than just charging a cold battery the entire time.
@@ShadLife Yes, it will prevent damage to the battery by charging at a slower rate until the temperature reaches a certain threshold.
Don't you have to check the preconditioning box in the menu, first, before setting the poi???
The process shown does activate pre-conditioning. I am not sure if anything has changed.
How do I set a charging station that is 100 miles away? Why would I want to charge 15 miles from home when I leave with 90%?
Exactly. The system limits how you can search for stations using the preconditioning mode. If you need to find a stop that is between your current location and destination (and doesn't show up with either filter selection on the menu) I have seen you should be able to use the map to scroll to that exact spot, zoom in very close, and click on the charging station and add it as a stop that way. Kyle from Out Of Spec showed this method in his recent video.
@@CarsMadeSimple The navigation system can't plot a route with all the inbetween charging stops on its own and precondition accordingly?
Frankly, 20% could mean as much as 50 miles of range (tested, not EPA/WLTP) on highway, and considering on road trips (when you're more likely to use this) you get only about 190 miles charging at around 80%, then that gives you about 140 miles??? is that what this mean? (I suppoose you do get extra miles, but how much do you loose? I"m used to coming into chargers with very low state of rage, down to 1% at times). Second, Why can't hyunda/Kia do a proper route planer like many other cars have, and have the pre-conditioning as a "yes/no" option? many cars can do that. As far as range, this car isn' terrible, and charges fairly fast compare to others to 95% (even to 100%) unlike cars like Mach-E that can take two and a half hours from 0 to 100 percent... Think Kia will do it (in optimal conditions) under 50 minutes, and I've seen it even faster, however, under cold condition (when you need this for sure) times over an hour wouldn't be uncommon, so this feature IS needed, just wish it wasn't just implemented as it was. with so many restrictions.
Just type in your target and then you can set the remaining % and how much you want to charge in the menue (80% is recommended for optimal travel speed). How is it hard to use?
You missed the first step of “having bought your Ioniq 5 in literally any country but Canada”
HyundaiCanada 👀
I thought Canada has released the update too?
@@CarsMadeSimple
Not yet. Supposedly sometime in Q1 but they won’t really commit to anything other than “working on it”. Not like it’s cold here or anything. 🤦♀️
@@ah3968 I received the official notice from Hyundai Canada yesterday (April 4th) and have my update scheduled for, exactly, one week from today. If it doesn't work, bye bye Hyundai, hello GM (Ultium EVs have preconditioning).
@@ScubaSteveCanada I would still make an official complaint about slow charging. Multiple of us have struggled to get the update because Hyundai Canada (unless they’ve changed their tune) is not automatically giving the update - only if there is an individual complaint. Ensure you get both the VCU update which is an automatic update AND the BMS update which requires the complaint. Also if you haven’t updated the navigation you will have to do that yourself. It has to be updated to at least the May 2022 version. Most recent is October. Hope it works out for you. It’s a relief to finally have it but it was an unnecessary journey Hyundai Canada sent me on. Hope your experience is more straightforward.
It all looks way too complicated. Nice to see this on my computer, but when I get in the car to do this, I've forgotten it all. Old man brain. Can you give us something more straight forward just to go directly to the charging station?
He did. That's the simplest Hyundai software engineers could come up with ... better than no preconditioning.