Is the Behringer Flow 8 the Most Versatile Compact Mixer on the Market?
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- You see ... I use the Behringer Flow 8 about as often as I eat jam donuts ... which is less than you might think ... especially given I really like them both. A lot. Let me explain.
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I abuse and use this little mixer at least 3 days a week for solo shows and have started using it for 3 and 4 piece groups. Had it for just over 2 years still going strong with no issues. Love it!
Have you had noise issues? Mine is quite noisy
If you hold the Menu button down for several seconds, it will power down the mixer, kind of. That’s the make shift power button. Didn’t know if you knew that. ☺️😉
I did not know! And I’ve just followed your instructions … yeah … that might do. Much appreciated :)
Awesome review, thanks! Had some doubts first but after seeing this I’m gonna get some donuts.
Very informative. Answered close to every question I had about this little thing. Great video
Thanks for the review. I like your style and humour 👍
Thank you too!
9:32 It can also be controlled via MIDI sent over this USB-B connection. So if you need it for some purpose, you can use some MIDI host device and assign some faders to the MIDI controller for quick control, panning or fx-sends for example.
Brilliant!
Can you offer a clue as to how I might get my Korg midi controller to work?
I did see some details in the manual, but I've not yet made the connection.
Cheers!
any idea about connection for any external fader/button controller midi device ?
Thank you for the concise and informative review
Awesome review. You are very talented.
I’ve used it a lot for coffeehouse gigs from solo to routinely 3 or 4 person acts. Makes all kinds of instruments and SM58s sound great. So many usable features. Particularly for the money.
The micro usb power is cheap. My input broke. No doubt helped by traveling with the power adapter left in.
The computer repairman said the only thing holding the input jack in place was being soldered into a circuit board.
I ordered mine from Amazon January 2021 at a very good discount even though I waited about 5 months for it! So, like you, I think it is great value and really handy. I utilize a battery bank to run it as there is no power outlet near where I use it most. I've never had the noise when I've turned it on. I think it's a great piece of kit. A fair review!
I own it and use it in live gigging and for me it is the best digital mixer in its price.
Hello, thank you for this review!
8:15 I don't have any problems with it, even after using the mixer almost every day for 2 years. I think it could be a power problem or a manufacturing defect. I've almost always used the complete power supply, sometimes plugged into a power bank, but I've never seen such noises.
Thanks for the info!
Sir can u plz tell me ! where is stereo pingpong feedback settings in flow 8 ?
Great review from a practical application point of view. Currently at the end of August 2024, the Flow 8 in the US is on backorder. Most likely because the price has been lowered under $180, making it a great buy. Sweetwater says they anticipate restocking in September. Insert "No affiliate, employment, or reimbursement" disclaimer here.
I have this mixer. I like the eq for the mains and each channel and being in front to hear the sound and make adjustments. Awesome mixer.
Enabling Bluetooth will allow the app to be location aware (based on other Bluetooth devices it sees). Therefore, Location Awareness needs to be enabled for all apps that use Bluetooth.
It's irritating an non-intuitive, but I think it was named this way in Android because, if it was just called "Bluetooth awareness", many people would not understand the side effect that this provides (some) location awareness to the app.
That was a fantastic review, not holding back from detailed cons and pros. You are rare! That USB-B power-source thing has probably put me off buying it tbh... what a shame because almost everything else about it sounds great. And the labels wearing off so quickly (!). How depressing - surely that can't be hard for a manufacturer to get right. Thank you.
Thanks for your kind words. Hey the USB B thing is just for data ... It's the micro USB used for power that those on FB forums are saying can give problems (gee I hope I said that in the vid!) some people have been missing their units and replace it with a barrel connector - something I am very tempted to do.
The menu switch becomes the power if you long press it to turn it off, and short press to power it on.
Yeah ... A few have mentioned this. But that's standby, not power off.
Very good and honest review. I feel very tempted to buy it. How do you see if phantom power is on? Usually mixers have an LED that shines yellow.
Yup. You can see them at the 42 second mark ... Below the Delay display ... Below the solo ... Above the clip.
Good review, thanks 🤙🏽 At this price point, it’s hard to get too upset over the cons. I need something for small sessions and this might be it?
Thanks for this
thank you for video.
pls guide me that how can we can EQ without smartphone app ?
I own one of these and I think it’s main selling point was that it had two monitors outputs which I struggled to find on any other mixers of that size. The digital aspect is brilliant especially as you mix your audio from FOH. My main two uses are smaller acoustic sets and as a back up mixer for my X Air as it’s compact so easily to bring along. I have run my whole band throughout when it was needed and it handled it no problems. I bought it on its initial release so got it at the earlier price. I always use the app to set up up although generally it does recall the previous mix and then just use the faders for small adjustments throughout the gig if needed. As an X Air user having the faders on hand if you needs them if very reassuring.
How is FX of Flow 8 compared to XR12. I am using XR12 for home karaoke. I wonder if Flow8 FX can have better FX for home karaoke.
- FX1 has a variety of reverb effects.
- FX2 has a variety of echo and other time based effects.
- TAP button lets you set the tempo of FX2 effects by tapping three or four times.
- When you select FX2 or FX2, the sliders and the main volume knob change meaning to control the effect on each channel, and the total amount of effects.
- You can also control FX with the cellphone app.
- I think the flow 8 would be great for home karaoke because it's easy to use.
- Aside from the graphic equalizers on each channel and on the main output, another bonus is you can set an output delay to eliminate most feedback. I keep mine at 25ms.
@@microdesigns2000Are both FX1 and FX2 built in the units?
@@seemovielove3597 Yes FX1 and FX2 are on a Flow 8. You press the FX1 button and adjust the slider to get the amount of reverb you want. Then you press FX2 and use the same slider to adjust the amount of echo you want. Then you press MAIN and use the same slider to adjust the microphone level like normal.
Easy peasey.
If you hold the menu button it will turn off the power
I had one for a month and returned it. The bluetooth didn't work well with an older Ipad and not at all with a new Pixel Phone. When I switched back to a Soundcraft, the difference in the preamps was very noticeable. The Flow preamps are thin sounding. It's a cool idea for a mixer but they didn't quite get it right in my opinion.
Really helpfull video 😮. Thanks! I wanna buy One for My work. That is performing in weddings, reunions, etc. Do you think the flow 8 is the right mixer for that?
what alternatives are there at the price point?
I hope Behringer will make successor models, maybe with AA battery operation capabilities, oh and a power switch. I bought a used one for 15,000JPY (about $100 USD, about 75 donuts) before the world wide inflation, and now its price is doubled or tripled here in Japan.
Yes, please to the AutoGain demo!
I have one and love it. Also works well for a some multitrack recording. Its a little limiting because only 2 inputs have phantom power but ive recorded an acoustic drum kit with it using 4 mics
May I ask a question? (hopefully yes)
I have to do multitrack recording, and for that I use reaper and I'm confident that it works as expected.
(In1 to in8 as input channels on daw) but also..
I need to do some recordigs live on the go using a software like "voice note" so that when I hit stop I get an mp3 file named by datehour.
My question is: can I use Main out 1 & 2 as input for windows? Is this kind of usage what is intended by streaming mode? Is difficoult to switch from one to another mode?
Thank you for this.
great video! I am looking at this mixer but I can't find any info if it can multitrack using an iphone... can you confirm if it can record multitrack using iphone and garageband app?
I'm about to do a video on this ... Keep an eye out!
Many critics over the low build quality, microusb, etc, but the question is: do we have a digital mixer at a cheaper or same price? My worry focuses on what about to effects/noise/AD/latency quality, and how it can bear when all inputs are used at the same time !?!
power switch is in the menu button long press will turn off or on
More like a ‘standby’ mode, but it’s better than nothing..
Yeah someone else pointed this out to me also ... but thanks anyway because it is useful information
This is my go too mixer for Karaoke gigs. I have an old samsung tablet i use for mixing, I can be out in the crowd hearing what they hear and mixing away in merriness. My only gripe is the effects, I'm sure there's a good one for my purpose, but I can't find it.
How you can hock up Behringer Composer Pro-XL MDX2600 to this unit!
i use micro usb magnetic adapter so I never need to plug and unplug micro usb from mixer
That's an amazing idea
was thinking about getting a flow 8, does this have standalone? so i can still hear an input if the daw isnt loaded
Thanks for sharing this! I’m curious about which situations you use this? Have you tested distance?
10:00 "...there's no "off" switch... how much does that save...": Actually, there is. Hold MENU down for about three seconds and it powers off. MENU button dims. Tap it and it powers back on. I found that by seeing a comment complaining about that suggesting it was a bug. Go figure. BTW: Behringer has the worst documentation I think I have ever experienced. It may be just because of the COIK. What is COIK you ask? Clear Only If Known. But that doesn't cover "never mentioned". And it would be helpful to know what they were thinking when they implement things... like SOLO and MUTE.
Yeah a few people have pointed this out ... And I am glad because I really didn't know. But it's not quite an off switch ... It's a standby mode ... Not quite the same thing. Still I appreciate you taking the time ... I'm just being pedantic :)
@@psmusic_handle Always room to still be right.
Sir can u plz tell me ! where is stereo pingpong feedback settings in flow 8 ?
@note8prozone121 : Ping pong is #10 on FX2. On hardware, press FX2 (it lights purple). Turn "Select adjust" until displays #10 Ping Pong. Press "Select adjust" to set the selection. Adjust level while FX2 selected. Mon 1& 2 will display FX1 & FX2. Can also make these setting through App.
@toddmarshall7573 sir but how to increase feedback repeat level pingpong! When I select #10 Ping pong didn't show feedback option plz help me sir
Cool video so i wanted to get a digital mixer have u tried the yamaha ag mk2 i think these both are similar but idk which would be better
The on/off button is press and hold the 'Ready' button.
Can you imagine a unit where the fader part detaches and becomes hardware Bluetooth controlled.
Thanks for this overview helped me get over my impulsive feelinge to buy this… the power supply on micro usb major red flag for me especially woth my other small behringer mixer which powersupply problems already thank u
The upside of the micro-usb power connection is that it can be powered by a sufficiently beefy micro-usb equipped battery.
just fyi, the location thing is not their fault. in android, location access grants bluetooth scanning to the app (because bluetooth can be used to pinpoint your location based on surrounding devices) so they lumped it in that specific privilege. long story short, if the app wants to scan bluetooth devices, it must request this privilege.
Awesome. Thanks. Can you tell me, how is the Latency (RTL) if it's used as an audio interface to a DAW PC,.. say, at 64 buffer sample? Thanks
Can you set channel EQs without the app?
You have to hold "menu" for 3 seconds to turn the unit off
when you hold down MENU buton, It will sleep the device.
Mine has never done the start up noice.......
Thanks for the video. Can you explain the difference between the 'Library Snapshots" vs "Mixer Snapshots"? Thanks
Mine isn’t set up just now but I want to say the ‘library’ snapshots are stored in the app and more or less unlimited in number while the ‘mixer snapshots’ are stored in the mixer, limited to 12-15-ish but recallable from the menu without the app.
6 faders though, good video
Oh did I misspeak? Thanks for the correction :)
hi
well I don't understand is this just a sound card and you need to put a headphone studio to hear the sound ? or when you plug the mic to the mixer all the sound comes from the mixer like we were on live and it's audible for everyone ?
One correction- around 1:40 you state that there are eight sliders. Count again.
Whoops!
Hi can you help. To connect the flow 8 mixer to passive speakers do you need an amplifier. Thank you for your help.
Yes, any time you are running powered speakers, you are going to need a power amp, either internal with a powered mixer, or a stand alone rack mount unit.
Can I put in-ear monitors and assign which channels I want to hear in them ?
Yes, you can use the 2 aux output as 2 mono for 2 mono in ear or 1 stereo in ear. Then you can make your own mix for each of them, without changing what goes to the FOH.
Would just get the zoom l8 cuz it’s battery powered and it can also be usb b powered
Actually... Have you seen the new Zoom L6? That looks really interesting ...
@psmusic_handle I've seen it .... I bought the zoom l8 for $350 usd ... the zoom l6 cost $300 usd ....not worth it for the price
It's annoying it hasn't had a firmware update since 2021. There's been some glitches reported and the effects could be improved so it deffo could use it. Micro USB is horrible. Other then that it's great for what it is. I always carry mine as a spare
There is now
Can i add sm58 with xvive u3 on channel 1? Does the phantom power turn on automatically?
Not unless you are using the autogain function.
so the EQ is only accessable through phone, if u have set it, and close the app. will it save the presets you've set it to or ?
I mean you should have a hands on to check for yourself ... Don't take my word for it :) The app is only an interface to the main unit so all changes are received on the main unit, not left on the phone
@@psmusic_handle ah thanks alot for the response man! already bought the tascam model 12 after alot of research. appreciate the help tho! love your video's
10:02 - hold down the 'MENU' button
Yes, but i need more channel tbh. Behringer make the darn flow 16 already
Agreed. Though I’d settle for a 12. Even a 10. And 4 sends would be very nice!
Honestly, I used an xr18 for a long time and they are fantasic. A little more involved and complicated if you really dive in. But you can use it on a pretty basic format as well. The x18 has the traditional console layout so you don't have to be AS app dependant. But sound quality is excellent, and as long as you don't wander the routers are ok. You don't lose your setting if the phone disconnects from the board, and my dad just threw an external modem on his to make it more powerful.
We have problems with out flow 8. First it switched of all audio for a few seconds if my headphone was to loud.
Now it switches of the audio even without having headphones plugged in.
Shuts of all signals for a few seconds. Can't use it that way. Then it opens the audio again. Anyone any ideas?
I'm not sure if this will be useful, but join the Facebook group and ask there. Or search that group for an answer - I find FB groups for products super useful.
always use the original power supply that come with it, lesser power supply can lead to this
@@philiptong4978 thank you, hope it works. Performing on the streets I will try different power banks to see if it makes a difference with the mixer.
Maybe the limiter on main is triggered?
Is the usb sending and receiving ? Can I use it to record from mics to Logic Pro?
Micro USB was a stupid choice. What were they thinking?!
You know the product is intended to be cheap and no good when the power connector is a micro USB.
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