If you need to be able to work with both a stand-alone digital multi-track recorder and a DAW, then the MODEL series is a great option. If you know the features you need upfront, selecting the right unit in this line is a no brainer. I wanted to share this information with anyone who is interested in the differences between the TASCAM MODEL series products. I had often wondered exactly what they were. I hope this presentation serves useful.
Speaking as a trainer, I feel that you clearly know how to do presentations, starting with the big picture, stating what you are going to deliver, and then delivering. Refreshing :-). And as a consumer of recording systems I say that what you provide is valuable. many thanks.
Yes, but now I understand there are 12 inputs on the 12, 16 on the 16, and 24 on the 24. I wonder how many there would be if they made a 48.....I guess we'll never know 😔 😟 🙁 😥
I keep looking at reviews of the 12, 14 and 16 but I find out that the 12 I got about 2 years ago was the perfect one for me. I also use Alesis powered monitors. I use a tube headphone amp thru the sub because I didn't like the way this handled the phones and felt it was too quiet also. Great informative video !
I just recently purchased model 12 connecting it to my protools but Im not receiving sound, though I see the sound meters moving there is no feedback from protools to model12... What could it be?
There could be an issue with your configuration and or drivers for the model 12 on your PC regarding your DAW. If you haven’t already, I strongly recommend you consult the Tascam Model 12 DAW Control Mode Manual for further assistance. You can download it from the Tascam website support section for the M12. If that doesn't help, call Tascam support directly. They're pretty cool. Let me know how that goes?
Thanks! Since the model 12 is a digital mixer the routing options are a bit more elaborate. For instance, it is possible to record signals without including compressors or EQ to the recorded signal. On the 16 and 24 model it seems that the routing prints compression but not EQ.
@Powercoad Music : Which is better for live multi-track recording? Zoom or Tascam? Please advise, what are the advantages and the disadvantages of Tascam over Zoom and vice versa.
The answer to your question comes down to your specific requirements. It may sound cliche, but it's the truth. If you know what you need, the answers become almost self evident, as the recording quality of both units are professional level. To understand the differences in features between top sellers from each brand, watch my presentation "ZOOM R20 vs Tascam MODEL 12", on this channel. I hope that helps, and thanks for watching.
@@PowercoatMusic I already heard this in your videos. Thanks. But I only intend to use this for live band recordings in the studio and nothing more. Which do you prefer based on your experience on both.
Here is another good setup scenario- if you have some outboard gear- in my case I do- hardware reverbs and other processing. Use fx out-Jack -mono send-disable internal effects- fx out Jack goes to your headphones distribution amp- I use a beringhear-and use a hardware reverb for it for talent-then I use Mon-1 and 2- sends to feed a stereo hardware effect chain in my case I run in series to a compressor-a saturation and widening unit and then into an aphex model 204-and return the stereo feed to channel 19/20-set to live input for a parallel type mix. For my hardware reverb send I use the ‘sub-out’ on a per channel need-engage it on any track you want hardware reverb-it sends to the stereo sub out fader and jacks-I use the Bluetooth channel as the reverb return. Any Mix of verb to dry can be done on the reverb unit itself. In my case I have 3 hardware reverbs- I run the stereo out to (2) passive splitters 2 in 4 out by galaxy audio-39 bucks each-then feed each hardware reverbs inputs separately-at the split- the re combine them to stereo for the return to Tascam using a Radial KeyLargo keyboard mixer-this way you have control of each reverbs volume- to create a dense exciting multiple reverb stereo return or turn any of them out of the mix. To taste, It only eats up 2 stereo returns leaving 18 open tracks 12 mono-3 stereo-which in a traditional situation w/ perhaps some ‘bouncing of tracks’ should be plenty. Hell most hit records pre 1980 were 16 to 24 tracks period-and 8 track in the early 70’s and backwards. Any outboard gear can be used-it’s the -routing- I have that makes the Tascam Model 24 in my case very usable and flexible as a standalone mix-record setup- In my case I have an RME BabyFace Pro FS-interface and an iPad Pro-I run my Mains Outs to the BabyFace as my two track master mix recorder so I do all final mastering inside an pad daw-I use Auria Pro with some plugins for sweetening as needed-if needed-and then export via audio share app to Postive Grids Final Touch App. Then save that mix in my desired format via that app.
Hi, can anyone tell that model 12 has 2 monitor out for live stage show and use effects at the same time ? I see model 16 & 24 has 2 monitor out & separate knob for effect…thx
Im looking primarily at the midi functionality as I want to play live audio out minimum 6 tracks for live gigs while syncing to relatively advanced dmx light show controlled by ableton live. Taking audio from non PC source like the tascam instead of the ableton live should mean lower risk. Recently, I had to cancel a gig when pops was randomly occuring from pc windows. This solution could be primary or backup. Best, an old-school electronic waw file music producer (plus pad, guitar, base, hardware synth). My question is if the smarter choice is to go with standard midi in out (model 12) or with usb midi (model 16 or 24). Need more channels than 6/10/12 if possible.
I have a question please. Since all the Tascam range can record ALL the individual tracks to an SD card in a live situation and not just a 2 track master, can a band do a virtual soundcheck, then leave the stage. That would enable the engineer playback the soundcheck through all of the respective channels and tweak them all with effects/eq ready for the bands return to the stage. Peter.
I talked to Tascam support some time ago to get confirmation on this. As per Tascam, your statement is correct. The MODEL 12 is a digital mixer and it's larger siblings are analog.
I've got the model 24. Still learning but love it for my songwriting style. Lol I just instructions of how to connect my mixer to my DAW FL Studio Signature please help?
Great video, though I’m extremely late watching it. This time last year I purchased the Model 16 and I’m just now getting around to using it. I’m kicking myself now because I had no idea that the iPad with camera connection kit connected very easily to the device. The possibilities with working with the iPad and the mixer by way of powered USB hub, synths and midi controllers are endless! 🤩
I've always believed that knowing your requirements and planning were very important. With this, you can sometimes get on to doing things that others don't even imagine. 😊 Thanks for watching, sharing, and wishing you the very best. 👍🏿
Do all 3 model series have SD card recording capabilities. I have the Tascam 24D Portastudio and am pleased with it, though I don’t see anyway it has 24 tracks. The so-called stereo tracks are not really stereo as I know it. As far as I can tell you can’t record 2 separate tracks on them and you can’t pan the tracks separately. If I am wrong I’d be grateful if you would tell me how to do these things. I know that I can record a pre existing stereo recording from the computer onto the Tascam “stereo” tracks and can export two tracks from the “stereo” tracks.
Yes, all 3 Model series products use SD cards. You are correct regarding the DP24 stereo tracks. That is why some folks select the DP32 because that unit does not have that specific limitation. I hope this information helps. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
I bought the 24 model. I returned it because both the shop and Tascam UK assured me that it was impossible to bounce tracks and also to assign an input to several tracks - stuff you can do easily on the dp24. Please reassure me that the people I talked to were correct. Such a beautiful machine. I cannot quantify my disappointment.
I just want Tascam to come out with a second generation 16-24-32 in my dreams with better AD conversion on at least two channels, selectable phantom power and SOLO buttons and and I had better stop there or the price becomes too Pro Grade 🤣. These are pretty cool but fell short of what I wanted them to be. There are some work arounds but I am really getting short on time to have anything impeding workflow. I’m shopping for multi channel interfaces and control surface in which I still consider the 12 for and as a backup tracker and portable rehearsal mixer if I ever get back into collaboration efforts. Really nice summery and presentation here, two thumbs up!!
Would I be able to use a Drum Machine with the Model 12 ? I just want to use the Boss DR880 after dusting it down !! To get a track laid down in Song Mode ! Thanks
Hi Mr Powercoat. OK, so I don’t Podcast, so I don’t need multiple xlr inputs. I voiceover my videos and narrate. I’d like to be able to add compression, de easing etc before I use a daw and have room to add sound effects from recorders and midi instalments later. I was thinking about a Tascam Mixcast 4 or Rodecaster Pro, but now I have seen these mixers, I want one lol. What would you go with in my situation? Cheers mate and greetings from the UK.
I believe any one of the MODEL series would work well in your situation, and allow you to integrate with DAWs if required. Not a bad investment. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
For the Model 16. I want to multitrack record my drums via USB into logic then mix down in logic. Is that possible? I do a lot of tracking to a click by myself so if I can set up tracks in logic hit record then process after that would be awesome.
If the software is compatible you should be good to go. Even if it's not, you should be able to export the drum tracks from your DAW, and import them into the MODEL 16 and go from there. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
It would be nice if u could compare the Mackie pro fx v3 ,Allen and Heath Zed 12 fx ,Soundcraft Signature 12 mkt , Tascam Model 12 and the Yamaha MG12XU
I have a question about the Tascam Model 16 mixer. Does this mixer record via USB into a DAW post or pre fader? I currently have a Presonus AR12 and it records pre fader, so I can't record any fader adjustments and if I use outboard reverb/delay through Aux/FX that is not recorded. I presume the onboard recording would record post fader, but would like to confirm also. Thank you!
That’s a good question. From my understanding this would need to be pre-fader from the MODEL 12 because the DAW software must first be configured to work with the unit. After DAW software configuration, the tracks that then can be controlled and the state and positions of the Model 12 buttons, knobs and faders may not always match. For absolute confirmation, I strongly suggest contacting Tascam support. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
If I'm understanding you question correctly, on the MODEL 12 you can sync with MIDI and use it as a MIDI Master or MIDI Slave unit. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
@@PowercoatMusic I think he was saying a larger band may do more instruments live at once and a smaller band may do more overdub and use more channels as doubling instruments.
Good question. The OM says you can connect to iOS devices with a lightning connector. Also says it's compatible with MAC and IOS Core Audio. For more details, I suggest contacting Tascam customer service. They are pretty cool. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Thanks 4 the video. I have a question. Does Model 16 or 24 have metronome features as the Model 12? (Sorry. Did not watch the whole video. You say this on 13:35)
No. As a standalone recorder I did not see any functionality for a metronome on the MODEL 16 or 24 like the 12. However, when the MODEL 16 and 24 are connected to a DAW you should have this feature. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Hi mate i just get an metronome app on my phone and Bluetooth it to the model 24 takes 2 seconds to do, then i clear that track ounce in no longer needing it, then same again when starting my next song, just have to be sure the tempo on the apps right before or you’ll end up back and forward till you get it right lol
thank you for clearly breaking down the actual differences... I'm actually quite baffled as to why Tascam chose to include/exclude the features that are particular to each model such as MIDI. I would have thought it would be quite important for syncing if designing a multitracking device that can sum & track audio from different instruments. I've been wondering how one would overdub, say drum machine parts in the model 16 or 24's multitrack if there's no midi. I suppose there's click and smpte like the old days haha
I hear you, don't know why TASCAM left MIDI out of the 16 and 24, would have been perfect. For me to use a 24 I'd have to use my other interface and pre-record the MIDI tracks, render to audio before switching to the 24 Interface for recording Audio. Not going to happen.
To my ear, yes it surely does. There is a “sweet spot” for inputs and the master channel. When you hit the right level balance, you know. They are cool pieces of gear.
I personally wish that Tascam had made a new and improved DP. I don’t think these Model Series units can make a complete production from start to finish. I’d love to see an even more powerful DP-24/32. DP-48 maybe?
It really depends on what process you use to be most productive in the studio as to how effective the MODEL series will be for you. Many recording artists don’t work the same way. What’s great for one may be bad for another. Plenty of folks love these units as they are powerful and flexible. I still love and use the DPs too. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
I don’t find myself needing more tracks than what’s available in these units, and I think there are many people who would agree with me. These are made for people who want to perform their music and not use a DAW. I could see myself making an entire album on this thing, seeing as I’ve already done that on my various cassette Portastudio units
Near all synths, drum machines, groove boxes, samplers & sequencers still include midi...yet none of the recorders do anymore. Simple selling point neglected for a large audience that would buy.
@@freefinancialadvice Of the series, the MODEL 12 only should be able to do what you are asking. It has MIDI IN and OUT Ports, and should be able to be controlled via a MIDI controller and work with a DAW.
Fantastic presentation..... So even with both my 1st gen DP•24 & DP•32 synced via midi, I can only record 16 tracks at the same time, whereas the Model 24 records 24 tracks simultaneously? That would be 8 more on 1 single machine? .... Or did I hear it wrong? .... Thank you for this and Thank you for your time.
Your heard it right. MODEL 24 has multitrack recording and playback with 24-track recording with 22 input channels and MAIN MIX L/R bus. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Yep. This is why I’m selling my DP32 as well as old mixer in order to buy a Model 24. I think Tascam sees it as the successor (although the DP does have some ‘portastudio’ features not available on the Model series.
@@PianoDanny .... 2 plus years went by so quickly .....😂🤣 So I couldn't get it out of my head. I bled for it because of the already overpriced CAD tag on it, & the usual & unlawful ( under Natural Law ) over•the•counter tax .... but I saved two grands and got the M24 new. I do keep both dp24 & dp32 to have different sessions going simultaneously. I don't think I could get much for them on ebay. I feel as if only nostalgic dudes would want them anyway by now .... but I might be off on that assumption.
You said on the Model 12, recording for tracks 11 and 12 are a "main mix L / R" while pointing to the 7/8 adn 9/10 "Right inputs", calling them "Main Mix L / R". That is not correct. Just look at the back label of the model 12. It's clearly L inputs (XLR) and R inputs (1/4") on the back for inputs 7/8 and 9/10. So where are the true track 11 and 12 inputs? It seems we can record just 10 tracks, because I don't see any inputs for tracks 11 and 12.
Great video thank you for your help, I believe you made a error when describing what each model is targeted for you said the model 12 is for large bands looking to record a live or in the studio 14.32 Not a big deal i think people know what their intended uses are. My question is do the model 12 and model 16 both have 60mm faders because i cannot find this information. Thank you for any help and keep up the great work.
On the screen during that section at 14:30, I have a statement at the bottom of the screen that reads “Correction: Model 24”. Yes, both the MODEL 12 and the MODEL 16 have 60mm faders. This fact is in both of their respective owner’s manuals. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
Nice review , so When you record to sd card your individual tracks won’t record with the fx applied ? When I playback the sd card it remembers the levels the faders were at or ? The only way to record the fx per channel is if you track them into your daw and record the tracks with the fx through the daw instead ?
Will tascam add the MIDI in and out functions to the 16 and 24 in the future? This is major to us who wants to start our synths and drum machines with this unit.
Great question. Currently, there's no indication that will happen. But it would be great if it did. We know that MIDI ports are one of the big reasons why the MODEL 12 is so popular. 👍🏿
The major difference is that the Model12 is a DAW controller whereas the 16 & 24 are not. This is significant ommission by Tascam considering the Model 24 is supposed to be the flagship model. As this facility is due to different onboard hardware, my understanding is that neither a software or firmware update will be able change this performance status. Pity as its clearly an opportunity missed.
Along with the Model 12, both the Model 16 and 24 can function as audio interfaces compatible with both MAC and Windows PC DAW applications. Tascam makes this clear not only in their owner’s manuals for both products, but also on their website: tascam.com/us/product/model_24/top . This is a major selling point for this product line. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Good video - thanks! Have you looked at latency of any of the models? I currently use a Steinberg Ur 44c and jam online. My latency is about 8 ms, which seems to be fine. I tried using a Zoom L12, but the latency is about 44 ms. Perhaps I could use one of the Tascam models for live stream jamming with some of my distant musician friends.
If you're referring to latency in regards to a DAW, I have not. However, latency should not be an issue if your using the unit as standalone recorder as there's no intermediate units to contend with. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
The technical specifications for the MODEL 12’s inputs and outputs are analog. Technically, the MODEL 12 is an analog mixer. The entire MODEL series are analog mixers. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
No Model 12 Compressor, EQ and mixing functions are all in the digital realm. It is a digital mixer. Model 16 and 24 are 100% analog, except the multitrack recorder.
@@jeffreyschmoyer4851 Actually that is not correct. The effects are digital but the preamp INS and OUTS are ANALOG on the MODEL 12. That makes it an analog mixer with digital effects. There’s a big difference there. This fact is documented in TASCAM Technical specifications for the MODEL 12.
@Jeffrey Schmoyer One more thing to add. The MODEL 12 uses the same INPUT and OUTPUT preamp HDDA hardware as the MODEL 16 and the MODEL 24, which is ANALOG. Again, this is as per TASCAM’s own Technical Specifications for each unit in the MODEL series. Effects are digital, mixer is analog. Thanks for watching.
I currently own both Model 16 and Model 12. The block diagrams in the manuals show very clearly the difference: the Model 12 is a digital mixer because the ADC precedes the compressors and EQ for all the channel strips. So the actual sound mixing is mixing digital summing . In the Model 16 and 24 those same circuits are all analog and the mixing is happening by summing analog voltage signals. Yes, pre amps are the same (and analog) in all 3, that’s true. But the Model 12 has very very different guys than the other 2 - and that digital difference cascades to a bunch of other very nice things in terms of features: - switchable feed of the Multitrack pre or post compressor - switchable solo modes pre or post fader And other good stuff. But at the expense of a small difference in mixed sound quality. Both are warm sounding, but the Model 16 is a tad warmer to my ears. And I do mean a tad. By the way, Love your videos. Keep ‘em coming .. and would be worth it to edit this to include some of these differences.
The model 12, 16, 24 all send midi time code via USB. The model 12 also sends midi clock/spp along with midi time code via 5 pin midi and USB. A work around (if you only have 5 pin midi) would be to lay a sync track with a korg volca fm 2 or any sonicware gear (for example liven xfm) oh and the novation circuits (not the circuit tracks or circuit rhythm). Just like laying smpte on a tape track. The main thing is none of the tascam model series sync to anything, everything has to sync to them. Hope this helped.
Features-wise these fall short of being a truly professional solution: Lack of channel inserts, lack of aux returns, no MIDI or DAW controller compatibility on the 16/24 (why?!), only global phantom power, etc. Unless you really need to record to an SD card, you’re better off getting a regular old analog mixer and a separate audio interface, imo. Of course it depends on what you need to accomplish in the studio.
Why....cost. If ypu want more feature get a 5000 one... At this price range nothing offer more. I have the 24 and im very happy. I have a 1 mototised fader for logic that i use in conjonction with this. There is nothing in that price range that come close.
The sd card is perfect a 32 gig cost 14$ My computer blew...i had all my client raw track on a sd card...i have one for each client. I use the daw to process track... Use the board for hands on mix... Best of both words. And i always have back up.
You know this makes me rethink the model 16 and 24 even if they irritate me for lack of certain features that I don’t mind paying for however they do seem a fair use bang for the buck at their points. The 12 is not big enough and I want top inserts, maybe a single or two faders for the DAW will work because I only fool one at a time anyhow. Good point thx
none of these new tascams have a bounce tool like the 32 track portastudios form tascam you 'can' bounce tracks but you have to manually patch up such a task.. it's a workaround and show that it's not really much like the postastudios from the 244 in the 80's onward in this regard. they are cool but they are clunky in some aspects.
Complete noob question here. When connecting guitar, can you run your amp directly into anyone of the units using the cable you would otherwise plug into your cabinet? If not, what do you have to do?
Even if the output from the amp doesn’t break the input, it’s only gonna sound like a speakerless amp. Better to put a microphone in front of the speaker for recording. For silent recording, you need an interface or a speaker simulator system.
Its funny i left your page becaus i didnt ser this just scrolling. And youre the first result! you go above and beyond comparing these units... Got me watching how tos on tech i dont even own. Great channel definitely subbing👍
It's the neighbor's dog. My dog's gone but she used to be really quiet (Alaskan Malamute). Yeah, I have to be very careful of when I record videos because sometimes you'll hear their dogs barking. You do what you can but it can be a real pain. 😒 Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
You say "they combine the warmth of analog with a digital workflow." This makes no sense because all the audio processing is done in between the converters. They provide tangible knobs and faders. Nice, yes, but nothing to do with "warmth."
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If you need to be able to work with both a stand-alone digital multi-track recorder and a DAW, then the MODEL series is a great option. If you know the features you need upfront, selecting the right unit in this line is a no brainer. I wanted to share this information with anyone who is interested in the differences between the TASCAM MODEL series products. I had often wondered exactly what they were. I hope this presentation serves useful.
It is, thank you.
Awesome thanks!
Speaking as a trainer, I feel that you clearly know how to do presentations, starting with the big picture, stating what you are going to deliver, and then delivering. Refreshing :-). And as a consumer of recording systems I say that what you provide is valuable. many thanks.
Afterthought: A contrastive (visual) chart on the pros and cons for each of the three models would be of further help .
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The Model 12 is a digital mixer, the Model 16 and the Model 24 are analogue mixers. Thanks for the presentation.
lol right, how is this not said? prob the most important difference
So which would sound better? Will analog actually sound warmer?
@@michaeldsternalways analog mixer for warmth. I use one called Onyx by Mackie. Onyx preamps are sooo ❤❤❤❤❤
Yes, but now I understand there are 12 inputs on the 12, 16 on the 16, and 24 on the 24. I wonder how many there would be if they made a 48.....I guess we'll never know 😔 😟 🙁 😥
You can mix in Model the tracks that are coming outs from DAW, with his soundcard?
is there daw control for the 16 and 24
Yes there is. Thanks for watching.
I keep looking at reviews of the 12, 14 and 16 but I find out that the 12 I got about 2 years ago was the perfect one for me. I also use Alesis powered monitors. I use a tube headphone amp thru the sub because I didn't like the way this handled the phones and felt it was too quiet also. Great informative video !
I just recently purchased model 12 connecting it to my protools but Im not receiving sound, though I see the sound meters moving there is no feedback from protools to model12... What could it be?
There could be an issue with your configuration and or drivers for the model 12 on your PC regarding your DAW. If you haven’t already, I strongly recommend you consult the Tascam Model 12 DAW Control Mode Manual for further assistance. You can download it from the Tascam website support section for the M12. If that doesn't help, call Tascam support directly. They're pretty cool. Let me know how that goes?
@@PowercoatMusic thx... highly appreciated & will do
Thanks! Since the model 12 is a digital mixer the routing options are a bit more elaborate. For instance, it is possible to record signals without including compressors or EQ to the recorded signal. On the 16 and 24 model it seems that the routing prints compression but not EQ.
Should should be able to record tracks on the 12 without EQ and compression as they can be disabled. Thanks for watching.
@Powercoad Music : Which is better for live multi-track recording? Zoom or Tascam? Please advise, what are the advantages and the disadvantages of Tascam over Zoom and vice versa.
The answer to your question comes down to your specific requirements. It may sound cliche, but it's the truth. If you know what you need, the answers become almost self evident, as the recording quality of both units are professional level. To understand the differences in features between top sellers from each brand, watch my presentation "ZOOM R20 vs Tascam MODEL 12", on this channel. I hope that helps, and thanks for watching.
@@PowercoatMusic I already heard this in your videos. Thanks. But I only intend to use this for live band recordings in the studio and nothing more. Which do you prefer based on your experience on both.
@@dreamrockstudio111 Based on my personal requirements and preferences, I would go with Tascam. Again, that's just me.
Here is another good setup scenario- if you have some outboard gear- in my case I do- hardware reverbs and other processing. Use fx out-Jack -mono send-disable internal effects- fx out Jack goes to your headphones distribution amp- I use a beringhear-and use a hardware reverb for it for talent-then I use Mon-1 and 2- sends to feed a stereo hardware effect chain in my case I run in series to a compressor-a saturation and widening unit and then into an aphex model 204-and return the stereo feed to channel 19/20-set to live input for a parallel type mix.
For my hardware reverb send I use the ‘sub-out’ on a per channel need-engage it on any track you want hardware reverb-it sends to the stereo sub out fader and jacks-I use the Bluetooth channel as the reverb return. Any Mix of verb to dry can be done on the reverb unit itself. In my case I have 3 hardware reverbs- I run the stereo out to (2) passive splitters 2 in 4 out by galaxy audio-39 bucks each-then feed each hardware reverbs inputs separately-at the split- the re combine them to stereo for the return to Tascam using a Radial KeyLargo keyboard mixer-this way you have control of each reverbs volume- to create a dense exciting multiple reverb stereo return or turn any of them out of the mix. To taste,
It only eats up 2 stereo returns leaving 18 open tracks 12 mono-3 stereo-which in a traditional situation w/ perhaps some ‘bouncing of tracks’ should be plenty. Hell most hit records pre 1980 were 16 to 24 tracks period-and 8 track in the early 70’s and backwards.
Any outboard gear can be used-it’s the -routing- I have that makes the Tascam Model 24 in my case very usable and flexible as a standalone mix-record setup- In my case I have an RME BabyFace Pro FS-interface and an iPad Pro-I run my Mains Outs to the BabyFace as my two track master mix recorder so I do all final mastering inside an pad daw-I use Auria Pro with some plugins for sweetening as needed-if needed-and then export via audio share app to Postive Grids Final Touch App. Then save that mix in my desired format via that app.
Hi, can anyone tell that model 12 has 2 monitor out for live stage show and use effects at the same time ? I see model 16 & 24 has 2 monitor out & separate knob for effect…thx
Im looking primarily at the midi functionality as I want to play live audio out minimum 6 tracks for live gigs while syncing to relatively advanced dmx light show controlled by ableton live. Taking audio from non PC source like the tascam instead of the ableton live should mean lower risk. Recently, I had to cancel a gig when pops was randomly occuring from pc windows. This solution could be primary or backup. Best, an old-school electronic waw file music producer (plus pad, guitar, base, hardware synth). My question is if the smarter choice is to go with standard midi in out (model 12) or with usb midi (model 16 or 24). Need more channels than 6/10/12 if possible.
I have a question please. Since all the Tascam range can record ALL the individual tracks to an SD card in a live situation and not just a 2 track master, can a band do a virtual soundcheck, then leave the stage. That would enable the engineer playback the soundcheck through all of the respective channels and tweak them all with effects/eq ready for the bands return to the stage. Peter.
If I'm understanding your question correctly, the answer is yes. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
@@PowercoatMusic Thank you for your answer. That helps me out greatly.
So the Model 12’s mixer is Digital, whereas the other models are Analog? Im trying to clear up any confusion
I talked to Tascam support some time ago to get confirmation on this. As per Tascam, your statement is correct. The MODEL 12 is a digital mixer and it's larger siblings are analog.
@@PowercoatMusic Great! Thank you for this wealth of info on these units. Awesome video!
All these models record PRE-EQ to the daw or POST?
I believe this is a setting you can change. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Analog summing only available on 16/24 right?
I believe that should be correct. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
The Model 12 does not have phono inputs like the 16 and 24, right?
Correct. Model 12 does not have phono inputs. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
I've got the model 24. Still learning but love it for my songwriting style.
Lol I just instructions of how to connect my mixer to my DAW FL Studio Signature please help?
Great video, though I’m extremely late watching it. This time last year I purchased the Model 16 and I’m just now getting around to using it. I’m kicking myself now because I had no idea that the iPad with camera connection kit connected very easily to the device. The possibilities with working with the iPad and the mixer by way of powered USB hub, synths and midi controllers are endless! 🤩
I've always believed that knowing your requirements and planning were very important. With this, you can sometimes get on to doing things that others don't even imagine. 😊 Thanks for watching, sharing, and wishing you the very best. 👍🏿
think i might upgrade to the model 16 . well done with presenting all the info !
Thanks for watching.
Do all 3 model series have SD card recording capabilities. I have the Tascam 24D Portastudio and am pleased with it, though I don’t see anyway it has 24 tracks. The so-called stereo tracks are not really stereo as I know it. As far as I can tell you can’t record 2 separate tracks on them and you can’t pan the tracks separately. If I am wrong I’d be grateful if you would tell me how to do these things. I know that I can record a pre existing stereo recording from the computer onto the Tascam “stereo” tracks and can export two tracks from the “stereo” tracks.
Yes, all 3 Model series products use SD cards. You are correct regarding the DP24 stereo tracks. That is why some folks select the DP32 because that unit does not have that specific limitation. I hope this information helps. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
I bought the 24 model. I returned it because both the shop and Tascam UK assured me that it was impossible to bounce tracks and also to assign an input to several tracks - stuff you can do easily on the dp24. Please reassure me that the people I talked to were correct. Such a beautiful machine. I cannot quantify my disappointment.
It's possible. Check out this video from Tascam that shows you how to do it. ruclips.net/video/d2ov4giWpVw/видео.html -Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
I just want Tascam to come out with a second generation 16-24-32 in my dreams with better AD conversion on at least two channels, selectable phantom power and SOLO buttons and and I had better stop there or the price becomes too Pro Grade 🤣.
These are pretty cool but fell short of what I wanted them to be. There are some work arounds but I am really getting short on time to have anything impeding workflow.
I’m shopping for multi channel interfaces and control surface in which I still consider the 12 for and as a backup tracker and portable rehearsal mixer if I ever get back into collaboration efforts. Really nice summery and presentation here, two thumbs up!!
Thanks so much for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
Would I be able to use a Drum Machine with the Model 12 ? I just want to use the Boss DR880 after dusting it down !! To get a track laid down in Song Mode ! Thanks
Yes. The MODEL 12 has built-In MIDI ports too, so you should be good to go. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
Does this unit pump out analog sound like a portastudio 424?
MODEL 16 and MODEL 24 are analog, and they blow the old 424 away. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Hi Mr Powercoat. OK, so I don’t Podcast, so I don’t need multiple xlr inputs. I voiceover my videos and narrate. I’d like to be able to add compression, de easing etc before I use a daw and have room to add sound effects from recorders and midi instalments later. I was thinking about a Tascam Mixcast 4 or Rodecaster Pro, but now I have seen these mixers, I want one lol. What would you go with in my situation? Cheers mate and greetings from the UK.
I believe any one of the MODEL series would work well in your situation, and allow you to integrate with DAWs if required. Not a bad investment. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
For the Model 16. I want to multitrack record my drums via USB into logic then mix down in logic. Is that possible? I do a lot of tracking to a click by myself so if I can set up tracks in logic hit record then process after that would be awesome.
If the software is compatible you should be good to go. Even if it's not, you should be able to export the drum tracks from your DAW, and import them into the MODEL 16 and go from there. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
It would be nice if u could compare the Mackie pro fx v3 ,Allen and Heath Zed 12 fx ,Soundcraft Signature 12 mkt , Tascam Model 12 and the Yamaha MG12XU
That would be a whole lot of trips to a few stores that accept returns 🤣
I have a question about the Tascam Model 16 mixer. Does this mixer record via USB into a DAW post or pre fader? I currently have a Presonus AR12 and it records pre fader, so I can't record any fader adjustments and if I use outboard reverb/delay through Aux/FX that is not recorded. I presume the onboard recording would record post fader, but would like to confirm also. Thank you!
That’s a good question. From my understanding this would need to be pre-fader from the MODEL 12 because the DAW software must first be configured to work with the unit. After DAW software configuration, the tracks that then can be controlled and the state and positions of the Model 12 buttons, knobs and faders may not always match. For absolute confirmation, I strongly suggest contacting Tascam support. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
Does the MIDI from the Model 12 make MIDI sync possible or turn the mixer into a master clock?
If I'm understanding you question correctly, on the MODEL 12 you can sync with MIDI and use it as a MIDI Master or MIDI Slave unit. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
Still trying to get my head around the difference. The 12 is for a larger band and the 24 is for a smaller band or solo artist?
Actually, it's the other way around. The 12 is for the smaller setup. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
@@PowercoatMusic I took it the other way from what he said.
@@PowercoatMusic I think he was saying a larger band may do more instruments live at once and a smaller band may do more overdub and use more channels as doubling instruments.
He just misspoke in the video...He meant Model 24, not Model 12, is for the more established band...
@@silvebackmgmt.8929 I was wondering. I am about 95% on getting this
Do they work with Apple M1 Chip?
Good question. The OM says you can connect to iOS devices with a lightning connector. Also says it's compatible with MAC and IOS Core Audio. For more details, I suggest contacting Tascam customer service. They are pretty cool. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
@@PowercoatMusic Already contacted them) They responded that it does work with M1 chips which is great! Thanks
Thanks 4 the video. I have a question. Does Model 16 or 24 have metronome features as the Model 12? (Sorry. Did not watch the whole video. You say this on 13:35)
No. As a standalone recorder I did not see any functionality for a metronome on the MODEL 16 or 24 like the 12. However, when the MODEL 16 and 24 are connected to a DAW you should have this feature. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Hi mate i just get an metronome app on my phone and Bluetooth it to the model 24 takes 2 seconds to do, then i clear that track ounce in no longer needing it, then same again when starting my next song, just have to be sure the tempo on the apps right before or you’ll end up back and forward till you get it right lol
@@craighughes-shug6694 Thanks watching and for sharing your solution with everyone. It's much appreciated. 👍🏿
thank you for clearly breaking down the actual differences... I'm actually quite baffled as to why Tascam chose to include/exclude the features that are particular to each model such as MIDI. I would have thought it would be quite important for syncing if designing a multitracking device that can sum & track audio from different instruments. I've been wondering how one would overdub, say drum machine parts in the model 16 or 24's multitrack if there's no midi. I suppose there's click and smpte like the old days haha
I hear you, don't know why TASCAM left MIDI out of the 16 and 24, would have been perfect. For me to use a 24 I'd have to use my other interface and pre-record the MIDI tracks, render to audio before switching to the 24 Interface for recording Audio. Not going to happen.
Does this add the analog console colour to the material ran through it?
To my ear, yes it surely does. There is a “sweet spot” for inputs and the master channel. When you hit the right level balance, you know. They are cool pieces of gear.
Does the 24 come with a meter bridge
No it does not. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
I personally wish that Tascam had made a new and improved DP. I don’t think these Model Series units can make a complete production from start to finish. I’d love to see an even more powerful DP-24/32. DP-48 maybe?
It really depends on what process you use to be most productive in the studio as to how effective the MODEL series will be for you. Many recording artists don’t work the same way. What’s great for one may be bad for another. Plenty of folks love these units as they are powerful and flexible. I still love and use the DPs too. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
I don’t find myself needing more tracks than what’s available in these units, and I think there are many people who would agree with me. These are made for people who want to perform their music and not use a DAW. I could see myself making an entire album on this thing, seeing as I’ve already done that on my various cassette Portastudio units
Your videos have been of great help to me. Comprehensive and concise. Many thanks!
You're most welcome. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Near all synths, drum machines, groove boxes, samplers & sequencers still include midi...yet none of the recorders do anymore. Simple selling point neglected for a large audience that would buy.
Great point and agreed. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Yeah but can these be controlled from midi controller > to Daw > to Mixer ?
I think the model 12 have midi support though
@@hailesam3567 Yes. The MODEL 12 does have a MIDI IN and OUT interface.
@@freefinancialadvice Of the series, the MODEL 12 only should be able to do what you are asking. It has MIDI IN and OUT Ports, and should be able to be controlled via a MIDI controller and work with a DAW.
Fantastic presentation..... So even with both my 1st gen DP•24 & DP•32 synced via midi, I can only record 16 tracks at the same time, whereas the Model 24 records 24 tracks simultaneously? That would be 8 more on 1 single machine?
.... Or did I hear it wrong? .... Thank you for this and Thank you for your time.
Your heard it right. MODEL 24 has multitrack recording and playback with 24-track recording with 22 input channels and MAIN MIX L/R bus. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Yep. This is why I’m selling my DP32 as well as old mixer in order to buy a Model 24. I think Tascam sees it as the successor (although the DP does have some ‘portastudio’ features not available on the Model series.
@@PianoDanny .... 2 plus years went by so quickly .....😂🤣
So I couldn't get it out of my head. I bled for it because of the already overpriced CAD tag on it, & the usual & unlawful ( under Natural Law ) over•the•counter tax .... but I saved two grands and got the M24 new.
I do keep both dp24 & dp32 to have different sessions going simultaneously.
I don't think I could get much for them on ebay. I feel as if only nostalgic dudes would want them anyway by now .... but I might be off on that assumption.
You said on the Model 12, recording for tracks 11 and 12 are a "main mix L / R" while pointing to the 7/8 adn 9/10 "Right inputs", calling them "Main Mix L / R". That is not correct. Just look at the back label of the model 12. It's clearly L inputs (XLR) and R inputs (1/4") on the back for inputs 7/8 and 9/10. So where are the true track 11 and 12 inputs? It seems we can record just 10 tracks, because I don't see any inputs for tracks 11 and 12.
Great video thank you for your help, I believe you made a error when describing what each model is targeted for you said the model 12 is for large bands looking to record a live or in the studio 14.32 Not a big deal i think people know what their intended uses are. My question is do the model 12 and model 16 both have 60mm faders because i cannot find this information. Thank you for any help and keep up the great work.
On the screen during that section at 14:30, I have a statement at the bottom of the screen that reads “Correction: Model 24”. Yes, both the MODEL 12 and the MODEL 16 have 60mm faders. This fact is in both of their respective owner’s manuals. Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
@@PowercoatMusic Sorry i must have missed that Thank you for the info on the faders.
@@bobby9727 No worries 😊 ...and you are most welcome.
Nice review , so When you record to sd card your individual tracks won’t record with the fx applied ? When I playback the sd card it remembers the levels the faders were at or ? The only way to record the fx per channel is if you track them into your daw and record the tracks with the fx through the daw instead ?
You can get creative with it to save the settings for each track.
does anyone know if the model 24 has been updated to match what the 12 can do? thanks.
If you're talking about DAW control, the answer is no! Models 24 and 16 are analogs and Model 12 is digital.
Thank you... I'm finally ready for 24, but I think I ust need 16. Thank you for the video.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
I’m also debating between the 16 and 24
Will the model 24 fit in a common mixer rack?
No but 16 will
@@xammai9679 yeah I ended up getting the 16 right after this post.
Will tascam add the MIDI in and out functions to the 16 and 24 in the future? This is major to us who wants to start our synths and drum machines with this unit.
Great question. Currently, there's no indication that will happen. But it would be great if it did. We know that MIDI ports are one of the big reasons why the MODEL 12 is so popular. 👍🏿
@Eden Dalls Correct.
The major difference is that the Model12 is a DAW controller whereas the 16 & 24 are not. This is significant ommission by Tascam considering the Model 24 is supposed to be the flagship model. As this facility is due to different onboard hardware, my understanding is that neither a software or firmware update will be able change this performance status. Pity as its clearly an opportunity missed.
Along with the Model 12, both the Model 16 and 24 can function as audio interfaces compatible with both MAC and Windows PC DAW applications. Tascam makes this clear not only in their owner’s manuals for both products, but also on their website: tascam.com/us/product/model_24/top . This is a major selling point for this product line. Thanks for watching and sharing.
@@PowercoatMusic Only the Model 12 can work as a control surface.
Correct and an important point as well. 😊
great work. wondering too…I’m now thinking of the retirement of my Podtrak…
Yes, it just might be time. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Good video - thanks! Have you looked at latency of any of the models? I currently use a Steinberg Ur 44c and jam online. My latency is about 8 ms, which seems to be fine. I tried using a Zoom L12, but the latency is about 44 ms. Perhaps I could use one of the Tascam models for live stream jamming with some of my distant musician friends.
If you're referring to latency in regards to a DAW, I have not. However, latency should not be an issue if your using the unit as standalone recorder as there's no intermediate units to contend with. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
The model 12 is technically a digital mixer correct ? The model 16 and model 24 are analog ?
The technical specifications for the MODEL 12’s inputs and outputs are analog. Technically, the MODEL 12 is an analog mixer. The entire MODEL series are analog mixers. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
No Model 12 Compressor, EQ and mixing functions are all in the digital realm. It is a digital mixer. Model 16 and 24 are 100% analog, except the multitrack recorder.
@@jeffreyschmoyer4851 Actually that is not correct. The effects are digital but the preamp INS and OUTS are ANALOG on the MODEL 12. That makes it an analog mixer with digital effects. There’s a big difference there. This fact is documented in TASCAM Technical specifications for the MODEL 12.
@Jeffrey Schmoyer One more thing to add. The MODEL 12 uses the same INPUT and OUTPUT preamp HDDA hardware as the MODEL 16 and the MODEL 24, which is ANALOG. Again, this is as per TASCAM’s own Technical Specifications for each unit in the MODEL series. Effects are digital, mixer is analog. Thanks for watching.
I currently own both Model 16 and Model 12. The block diagrams in the manuals show very clearly the difference: the Model 12 is a digital mixer because the ADC precedes the compressors and EQ for all the channel strips. So the actual sound mixing is mixing digital summing . In the Model 16 and 24 those same circuits are all analog and the mixing is happening by summing analog voltage signals.
Yes, pre amps are the same (and analog) in all 3, that’s true. But the Model 12 has very very different guys than the other 2 - and that digital difference cascades to a bunch of other very nice things in terms of features:
- switchable feed of the Multitrack pre or post compressor
- switchable solo modes pre or post fader
And other good stuff. But at the expense of a small difference in mixed sound quality. Both are warm sounding, but the Model 16 is a tad warmer to my ears. And I do mean a tad.
By the way, Love your videos. Keep ‘em coming .. and would be worth it to edit this to include some of these differences.
Awesome review! Great presentation. Many thanks.
You're most welcome. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Good presentation - thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much for watching. 👍🏿
Thanks so well explained
You're most welcome. Thanks for watching.
If Model 16 had MIDI, I'd buy two of them RIGHT NOW. I've HAVE to have MIDI interfacing. Sad that Tascam doesn't offer this.
The model 12, 16, 24 all send midi time code via USB. The model 12 also sends midi clock/spp along with midi time code via 5 pin midi and USB.
A work around (if you only have 5 pin midi) would be to lay a sync track with a korg volca fm 2 or any sonicware gear (for example liven xfm) oh and the novation circuits (not the circuit tracks or circuit rhythm). Just like laying smpte on a tape track. The main thing is none of the tascam model series sync to anything, everything has to sync to them. Hope this helped.
Why you need a midi in 16? 16 means you need it for group of instruments and with midi in that scenario is a bad idea.
Features-wise these fall short of being a truly professional solution: Lack of channel inserts, lack of aux returns, no MIDI or DAW controller compatibility on the 16/24 (why?!), only global phantom power, etc.
Unless you really need to record to an SD card, you’re better off getting a regular old analog mixer and a separate audio interface, imo. Of course it depends on what you need to accomplish in the studio.
Why....cost.
If ypu want more feature get a 5000 one...
At this price range nothing offer more.
I have the 24 and im very happy.
I have a 1 mototised fader for logic that i use in conjonction with this.
There is nothing in that price range that come close.
The sd card is perfect a 32 gig cost 14$
My computer blew...i had all my client raw track on a sd card...i have one for each client.
I use the daw to process track...
Use the board for hands on mix...
Best of both words.
And i always have back up.
You know this makes me rethink the model 16 and 24 even if they irritate me for lack of certain features that I don’t mind paying for however they do seem a fair use bang for the buck at their points. The 12 is not big enough and I want top inserts, maybe a single or two faders for the DAW will work because I only fool one at a time anyhow. Good point thx
I had one for a couple of days and noticed one fatal flaw. You can’t listen to the headphones unless the main faders are up.
Omg- that’s like really fatal
Hey chip I looked this up. I think you need to play with the PFL and AFL buttons along with PFL/AFL knob. Please report back.
FATALITY!
Nice job!
Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
none of these new tascams have a bounce tool like the 32 track portastudios form tascam
you 'can' bounce tracks but you have to manually patch up such a task.. it's a workaround
and show that it's not really much like the postastudios from the 244 in the 80's onward
in this regard.
they are cool but they are clunky in some aspects.
I quite like routing with patch cables to bounce.
Complete noob question here. When connecting guitar, can you run your amp directly into anyone of the units using the cable you would otherwise plug into your cabinet? If not, what do you have to do?
Even if the output from the amp doesn’t break the input, it’s only gonna sound like a speakerless amp. Better to put a microphone in front of the speaker for recording. For silent recording, you need an interface or a speaker simulator system.
Very good stuff.
I found the model 12 sounds better for drums than the 24 did. Anyone else experience this?
Great! Thanks! :)
You're most welcome. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
Useful.
Thanks for watching and sharing. 👍🏿
Its funny i left your page becaus i didnt ser this just scrolling. And youre the first result! you go above and beyond comparing these units... Got me watching how tos on tech i dont even own. Great channel definitely subbing👍
Thanks so much for watching and for your support. It is apprciated. 👍🏿
Outstanding review. God bless you man.
You're most welcome. Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
11:15 you need to let your dog out, lol
It's the neighbor's dog. My dog's gone but she used to be really quiet (Alaskan Malamute). Yeah, I have to be very careful of when I record videos because sometimes you'll hear their dogs barking. You do what you can but it can be a real pain. 😒 Thanks for watching. 👍🏿
You say "they combine the warmth of analog with a digital workflow." This makes no sense because all the audio processing is done in between the converters. They provide tangible knobs and faders. Nice, yes, but nothing to do with "warmth."
The resulting sound that I was referring to is of course is a matter of opinion. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Um, the model 12 isn't analog doh...
True. Thanks for watching.👍🏿
ninehundredandninetyniinedollarsninetyyyyniiiine !
I found this review long winded. You could home into the differences a lot more concisely.
And not a polarity switch in sight. Huge oversight by Tascam. *facepalm*
Model 12 is better, it has midi, & it looks better also, 16 & 24 look doofi
So hard to follow along with the fake voice inflection 😂and saying certain things when you don’t have to is called rambling 😢…review the info and understand it before you make a video sounding like a ai bot😅