Oof felt this- once befriended two boys who sat next to me in class in high school. They both thought I was Japanese or Korean. When they found out I was Filipina, they stopped talking to me. But they were Southeast Asian, too. 🤡
As a Filipino living in the Philippines, there IS a lot of pressure to adapt to not only Western beauty standards, but also East Asian beauty standards. The hierarchy is real.
Everyone in PH is lowkey pressuring you to be fair skinned af when we get temperatures as high as 41 degrees in the summer. And also the glorification of glow up culture ugh
Remember guys Asia starts in Istanbul and goes all the way to Indonesia, there are so many stories that we miss out. Maybe we should just watch more foreign films. What's your favourite film from your country?
Hong Kong - the first McDull animation (ik we have so much to offer in the film department from kung fu flicks to chinese vampires to cop films to stephen chow comedies to wong kar-wai but my answer remains unchanged)
India but Kerala specifically( bc every state has its own traditions, language, entertainment) I would recommend Bangalore days because it has comedy, love, drama and is a movie I come back to time and time again. You should definitely give it a watch!!
Yesss! I felt this! As a Southeast Asian (with no home affiliated country - I’m Hmong), I love the Asian support but always feel super sad because most stories don’t represent my communities or our stories are pushed down because they’re associated with poor, refugee stories and not the glamorous model minority stories
So glad to hear your perspective. Asians of lesser number like Cambodian Burmese Thai often group together because there's safety in numbers and often don't get supported by larger standalone Asian groups like Chinese Japanese and Korean who have more established communities. This is because countries in around the golden triangle were more impoverished and had fewer immigrants in the 1950s to set up the foundation. The Chinese Japanese and Korean groups each had similar problems of their own but as there's always a language and culture barrier it's understandable that these groups didn't bond. Filipinos blended more naturally with Hispanic and Mexicans due to spanish and shared last names. Hopefully more people from central Asia will share their stories.
I didn’t even know what Hmong was until I fell in love with the first love of my life. She was amazing and I miss her even though we are having a catch up dinner next month 😂😅. Explanation: she broke up with me but still bothers me to see her for dinner from time to time. And I do it because I’m secretly still in love with her.
A friend of mine is Hmong, but I've stopped asking her about her culture, due to a miscommunication... She said that she was about to get married & could not be friends with me anymore because of it (still unsure of what she might mean, did it mean because I'm not Hmong? Because I'm male? Because I'm a bad influence? Because she thought I'd disrupt her marriage in some way? I've absolutely no clue... Fast forward a few years, & she contacted me out of the blue, as apparently something happened, & she didn't marry that guy... I'll likely never ask her anything about her culture, but it's more due to me potentially not liking the answers, but, you just made me want to contact her to see how she's doing...😄
Ahh haha, I also never knew the foot thing was a common Filipino thing! I always just thought it was something my family did 😂 And my dad would always point at stuff with his mouth too 😅
My professor (Indian) went to Georgetown for her PhD. She was encouraged to speak to people from other countries so she signed up to the Asian club. She was immediately told that it was for “Asians” and she was like ??!! India is in Asia? So yeah 😂
@@sanjeevpaul Meanwhile, as a mostly white high school kid I went and joined the local University "International Student Club"- for reference, I was born, raised and lived within 3 miles of the Uni, which I was not attending (yet)- I'll give you exactly three guesses as to how many zero problems I encountered joining the club.
@Phantom it’s literally in Asia my dude. In the exact middle. Next to Pakistan which is also in Asia. Indian Subcontinent is the most important part of Asia for trade.
@Phantom Yeah but North East Indians are pretty similar to South East Asians. Parts of south east Asia are culturally very very similar to India too. I guess “Asian” is mostly a racial tag than a location one.
I'm Vietnamese. I learned at 10 years old that we were exploited in every way by richer (sometimes Asian) countries. Sex tourism happened here, cheap labor happened here, human trafficking happened here, poverty tourism LARPing happened here. It was especially hard when we were looked down upon by other North Asians who came to OUR country because most of us were just a commodity to them. My resentment against other Asians really stemmed from this experience of growing up in Saigon during the early 2000s. Recognizing and resolving this prejudice was only easier than integrating into US society coming from a monoethnic culture.
@@olandir My guess is she's talking about rich people sending their kids to a poor place to "experience being poor", in hopes of growing empathy within them. They would then make it PR move on news media about how they are "in touch" with the normal people. Most often times, this kind of experience would give the exact opposite effects to the kids, in that the stereotyping of poor people, the discrimination, and protectionism of their own wealth, would all grow.
Hi I'm born from the heritage of one of those northern fancy Asians but raised Canadian so am not one of your oppressors but am related to them. My family has never taken part in marginalizing others or taking advantage of the weak or poor, but I know that my culture was rich and self sustaining before the opium wars taught lessons of addictive exploitative capitalism. The British brought whiskey and small pox to the Native (first nations) Indians of North America very much the same way as they did opium to China. These "drugs" debilitated the first settlers to make it easier to defeat them. After the opium wars Hong Kong became a British (slave) colony where those who have white skin would be in an elite privileged class. You can watch Ip Man 4 to see some references. A number of films depict this history and the older generations of Chinese don't hold on to the bitterness but do remember. The hierarchy of capitalism and corporations have been modeled and so North Asians (because Asians are smart survivors) took that business model to other countries that they could exploit in the same way. I would say from my observation through the years Indonesian, Filipina and Thai maids were the most common in Hong Kong while Vietnamese refugees were refused entry. Keep in mind who was in charge of Hong Kong in those days. North Asians who arrived to Malaysia Thailand etc were often fugitives or were looking for a new opportunity for their lives. Being industrious and hard working shouldn't be a crime. Currently the Chinese are being viewed as exploiters of Africa, but without the Chinese giving Africa the chance in the early 2000s, Africa would look like Africa of 1980 which is pretty much what it looked like for the previous 100 yrs. In a nutshell I blame colonialism for setting the example. Hurt people hurt people and all we can do is try not to perpetuate the cycle. 🙏
it is true what Anna said, The higher class Asians are considered to be the ones living up in the North such as China, Korea and Japan. I'm Malaysian and other countries around me in South East Asia like Indonesia, Philippines, Brunei etc.. don't get that much spotlight when it comes to the outside world. It always has to do with the colour of our skin too; "are you the light coloured Asian or the dark coloured Asian?"
I don’t think it’s about the color of the skin, it’s more depending on how wealthy that country and the size of the economy. What comes to your mind when think about North Korea?
It's always been kinda weird for me to even identify as asian, since I'm Indian, and I've felt so much othering from the Asian community, and so much aversion to East Asian features like monolids from my Indian community. We're all always between a rock and a hard place :(
Do you, as an Indian person, even feel the need to identify as Asian? I always got the impression that India was one of those entities that don't really associate themselves too much with the continents they're located on, like Russia, the Uk, Egypt, some other middle eastern countries, etc.
I don't have too much of an opinion on this. But I do think its interesting how both east and southeast asia have been heavily influenced by Buddhism, which is indeed from India. Buddhism is a large part of what makes up the asian "spirit" so to speak. Even as a Filipino, we lost our Hindu-Buddhist heritage, and yet it still persists in subtle ways.
oh i FELT this one. i never felt “asian” enough growing up even though i lived in a primarily filipino city because most of the representation we had in the states were east asians, and i specifically remember a time in sixth grade where i was told filos weren’t asian, which confused the hell out of me because that’s how i identified myself at that point (and how i identify to this day, but that’s besides the point)
It means they like you and didn't think of you as THEM - the target northern fancy Asian nerds who work too hard. Also Filipinos blended with Latinos because of language and last name. Also similar attitudes toward enjoying life. It's understandable but doesn't make it right.
I think it’s come down to mostly how you look. If you look “Asian” people will see and treat you as such and if you look white or Hispanic people will treat you that way regardless if you say you’re Asian. Every Filipino I know look Asian so to me you all are my Asian peeps
@@slightlyopinionated8107 this is an excellent point. I once knew a mixed girl who looked full native (First Nations) and no one would believe that she was half Chinese. Obviously she knew what she was but people were intentionally mean and picked on her.
Filipino here (born and raised in the Philippines) and bruh the way you spoke Tagalog without actually saying any Tagalog words messed with my brain a lot 😂
Haha I know! Same here! I replayed that part so many times to try and catch some Filipino words, but there were none 😂 Also though, her Filipino accent is on point!
@Leandro Aude Yeah, it totally was. Which at first I found frustrating, but then I realized, "Duh. The whole point of that skit is that Anna honestly can't know how to speak Tagalog because her mom didn't teach her. So how could she say anything?" Like, I feel like the fact that she just spoke gibberish was the main punchline of the skit 😂
totally and if we want to really go in depth into this there is probably a lot to unpack like I'm from Hong Kong where the British colonists brought over Indians to be policemen (because they don't want Cantonese Chinese to let Cantonese people who commit petty crimes go) and Gurkha soldiers from Nepal, and to this date there is still institutional racism and racism from the chinese majority, other than postcolonial issues, there is also the fact that racism is always treated as a white PC thing to talk about in HK (and other Asian countries) as if Asians could only be the victims, as if Asians aren't hella racist against black and brown people. Class is also a complicating factor, though far from the whole story. You'll definitely have it much much easier if you're a rich Indian but that doesn't make you immune from racism.
I wrote a response to someone from Vietnam and hope you can read that and reach out to me if what I shared makes sense. I would love to connect with others who want to unpack and unite the world in peaceful coexistence. Hopefully you can find it (or care to find it).
@@nonename7869 hi I read it I feel like colonialism is only part of the problem, while it certainly established a racial hierarchy, that hierarchy is also complicated by class. (richer people look down on poorer people, and usually the whites are richer than the chinese who are richer than the indians, and the rich would obviously like to continue to be rich; if we bring the filipino/indonesian domestic workers and vietnamese refugees into this equation that will be a whole another thing involving the economies and politics of those countries and the lack of childcare/elderly care facilities and resources in HK and the whole vietnamese bride thing no I need to stop with this tangent oh but one last thing HK exploits foreign domestic workers so that its economy can prosper, complicated feminist issue at hand ok I'll stop) I believe with or without the colonialists, people are racist and classist. Look at Mainland China, they have not been colonized (most of them anyway) they are just as racist, if not more racist. An interesting point I've noted about the racism in Mainland China vs that of Hong Kong is that in Mainland China, there are state-affiliated media who support and propagate racism against countries they are fighting a war with e.g. India. Also I feel like the lack of diversity is part of what makes (East) Asia so racist, e.g. in Hong Kong, a relatively "diverse international city", only 8% of the population are non-Chinese. In somewhere like say, London, the percentage is 40%. Exposure usually lead to more accepting attitudes towards different cultures. (/rambling)
@@300blackcats Hong Kong people obtained a higher status over the mainland Chinese while profiting from the rule of colonialism. They inherited financial and cultural superiority which poisoned the relationship with ML China. Mainland Chinese only learned to retaliate when HK treated them just as badly as they treated all other Asians. We all originated from a similar poor background. Less than 100 yrs ago our great grandparents were mostly farmers.
"I'm Asian too guys" "Nah, you're just Sri-Lankan, you're not a real Asian like us" - Filipino girl in my group who liked to pretend she was Korean like her friend...
Firstly, tell her to learn some geography (I assume she was raised in the US). Secondly, tell her that I want to have a special meeting with her in my basement.
I’m Sri Lankan too and maybe it’s cus of online experiences other countries but now whenever I’m interacting with people from other races i still have that internal feeling of inferiority. But i don’t even really approach anyone anymore cus i feel like they’ll look at me yknow “different”. (Ik my thinking is toxic)
Relatable I am Sri Lankan American and I was often excluded in an Asian American org I was in, to the point that I just stopped associating with pan-Asian orgs
I’m Chinese-Indonesian, but I grew up in Singapore, so it’s kinda weird and I often have difficulty expressing where I’m from. Asian is a super broad term. And there is certainly truth to the notion of racial and/or national hierarchy in Asia. Racism is super complicated in Asia and your privilege depends on race, skin color, culture, and location, because different people have privilege in different circumstances. It’s not as simple as “white people on top versus the world.”
when you mentioned Singapore....I can imagine the comparison between folx living in Newton Orchard vs the Seng Kang, Hougang, and Little India. And of course the never ending squibble between Singapore and Malaysia.
I know an Aussie woman who is ethnic Chinese. She is Chinese Indonesian born and raised but migrated to the Netherlands and then to Australia. I always feel fascinated about that.
As a mixed person myself being half Nicaraguan quarter Thai and Filipino. I realized when I began making more Asian friends that places like Thailand the Philippines were really looked down on. Like I had “friends” that would invalidate my Asian heritage. Saying things like oh but Jaz you’re not really Asian you’re jungle Asian. Or you don’t really look Asian because you’re more dark sinned. And I totally understand the parents not wanting to teach their native language because they don’t feel like it would help me succeed. Like what ? Or even being Nicaraguan and not more prominent Latinx cultures like Mexico. It’s really frustrating when others do that because there’s not active representation of just how large and culturally even ethnically diverse Asia is.
Ya I'm sorry about that. Everything you just said sounds legit. The upside to your mix is that you're good looking and have a unique and non cookie cutter identity.
@@ayykayy_ when I was a teen the first gal I fell madly in love with was Japanese and my family didn't support it because they were still holding the bitterness about Nanking and the war. I didn't care and continued to be friends with that girl till now. My best friend in those days was madly in love with a super cute Filipina and my friends parents were not supportive. That Filipina gal is still very cute and we all remain friends. It's up to us to bridge those divides through mutual love respect and forgiveness.
@@ayykayy_ also my first major crush Japanese gal told me back then that even though she's full Japanese, since she isn't born in Japan she wouldn't be viewed / treated as Japanese in Japan because that's just how exclusive Japanese people in Japan are.
Yes! I was going to comment about how it’s the same with Latin-American cultures, but you beat me to it. As a Nicaraguan myself, I’m happy that films like Coco and Encanto have released in the U.S., but I seriously doubt I’ll ever see myself fully represented in film/television because Nicaragua is one of the “lesser” Latin-American countries and not one of the bigger ones like Mexico smh
Growing up Filipino I’ve seen aunts of mine not teach our language to my cousins because it could “dilute” their English (like what?) My fluency in all three (English, Filipino, Cebuano) only made me a better speaker and I once had this conversation with a coworker of mine told me Filipino’s are not Asian. I was about to lose it and then it mf clicked. I was too Westernized for a 1st gen immigrant and because I blended too well I didn’t fit the category 😩
I do not know if your aunts are first gen immigrant to a western country, but maybe their intention was to reduce the suffering their children may have due to limited assimilation and potential isolation to the local community.
It's a common misconception that raising kids bilingually will cause them to not learn the local language as well or have an accent, which isn't true at all. If anything, there are lots of benefits to being bilingual.
@@thomasonlu1720 I can see this. A common slur amongst Filipino-Americans where I lived was “FOB” to hate on people who couldn’t speak the language fluently. This was back in the early 2000s where I imagine flippant bullying for having an accent was a bit more widespread than today. Oddly enough, the Filipinos who called other Flips “FOBs” could only speak English. Haha
@@voodoolilium Yes knowing and being able to speak multiple languages do help with coordination of complex information, but often these kinds of information are not presented to those without an academic background / suffer from a lack of information, which unfortunately is very true among a proportion of first gen immigrants
Yup. I'm Taiwanese-American, teaching English in Japan, and I have a Filippino coworker who told me a lot about how badly Filippinos are treated in Japan (a cab driver even straight up asked her if she worked in a bath house... I'm assuming he meant as sex or cleaning work). Even this year, I saw a job posting on an English tutoring site based in Japan that explicitly pointed out giving LESS of an already-low salary to Filippinos that apply, compared to Japanese English-speakers or English-speakers that aren't Filippino. Not only was it racist, it made no sense to me since English is MUCH more widely used in the Philippines than in Japan, so it's more likely that a Filippino would be fluent in English than a Japanese English-speaker. Asians against Asians is honestly so ridiculous... and it really is akin to high school hierarchical structures: petty, toxic, wholly unnecessary.
I think he was assuming she was a sex worker which is disgusting. Talking about boundaries... I'm sure he was interested in her that way. 🤢 It's insane but Kabukicho is full of those 'bat houses' and 'massage saloons'. Everyone is so busy idolizing Japan but then these kind of things and even worse things exist there like 'childhood friend' frangnances and stuff. W. T. F. Japan is so charming but then at the same time equally fucked up as well.
@@Ailiys Oh for sure. If there's anything I've learned about Japan, it's that they're great at advertising themselves as this super awesome country to the rest of the world. And while it's true that the country is relatively much safer than a lot of places, and the people are generally polite/keep to themselves... Japan is definitely very effed up in many ways. And I've seen a lot of like... The ignorant type of racism (moreso in older folks than in kids, but still). Anti-foreigner protests aren't uncommon either.
@@azaeum6012 @Christina Loo I actually heard some of those protests, it's crazy. Sounding just like the Chinese gov. I don't get the country romanticisers. I assume they just don't wanna see the reality and thinking just like folks in bad realitionships. Thinking it would be different for them. And then people gets angry when reality not connects to their fantasies. Or maybe getting a breakdown like Paris Syndrome's victims. 😂
As sad as it sounds, Filipinos (like me) do put a lot of East Asian and Western countries on a pedestal without realizing that none of those countries will ever see the Philippines in the same kind of light except maybe when they need a lot of viewers to support them (pinoybaiting) in videos and media because it gives us this illusion of 'positive representation' and being validated by others. (Excluding the other people/figures who genuinely love the Philippines/Filipinos) We LOVE being included in people's content because we've always been told that we're at the very bottom of the spectrum. At the end of the day, we still get mocked for our accents in spite being so fluent in English, we still get called a 'slave country' by some, people only highlight the 'dangerous' parts of the Philippines and we continuously turn a blind eye to it because everyone wants to be something else rather than just being a Filipino. Everyone's biggest flaw right now is ignorance and It's a sad reality I don't think a lot of us have realized yet. I just hope that it changes someday.
It's got a lot to do with the wealth of the country, and not the culture. People measure other people's worth by how much they think other people might value them.
I never put any culture race on a pedestal, why? If we all are here in the US , all i do is try to outperform them at school or at work. Now if I put anybody on a pedestal its not because of race it’s because they are smarter or have better skills than me.
Even within Indian representation, it’s people of the Dominant Caste in the Hindi Belt who are represented the most because they had the resources to move but the fact that we’re treated as a monolith works for the privileged Indian. (Also, before anyone gets their pitchforks ready, privilege in terms of ascribed caste location aka Social Capital and not merely wealth)
So true, cannot agree more, I have never seen a dalit in foreign media, it's either Tam bramin or north Indian Brahmin or Sikh, there are lot malayslis too but I don't know much about them. Kapoor's and shirvasthavas everywhere. And the generalization of hindi, don't even let me start on it.
@@Floral_chronicles24 true, only north indians get media representation. when it comes to north east indians, east indians, west and south indians they have this harmful stereotype and they keep reinforcing it
and i didnt know this until recently, there's a lot of colorism incorporated into that caste system, with wealthy indian women buying skin bleaching products and i rarely see indian models with truly darker skin. sad, because both are beautiful.
@@youreboichips3872 it *is* in the middle east. But middle east is not a continent. It's just a word used for a part of the world that US (and previously UK) really love to invade. Half of middle eastern countries are in Asia and the other half are in Africa.
As a Filipino, I just wanna hug all the other Filipinos in the comments that had to hear "Filipinos aren't Asian" or "Filipinos are the ___s of Asia." I definitely internalized at one point that "I'm not Asian. I'm Pacific Islander" in high school until a girl in my class who is also Filipino remind me that Japan is also an island and they're considered Asia.
Zero clue she was part Filipina until now. At the 2 minute mark with the "no teach tagalog" is something I connect with. For me though it was expressed more jokingly with my parents saying something in tagalog, asking if I understood what they said, then laugh about it. Definitely grew up more Americanized in regards to language.
I'm Indian-American and grew up on the West coast - I remember there was a time when I envied how both NE and SE Asians fit into American society more than South Asians. Just some examples: Most of my Korean, Vietnamese and Filipino classmates had "Anglo" or some type of Western European-origin first names.A lot of them were Christian or of blended Christian/Buddhist background. There were plenty of multiracial kids like Anna herself, too (full Asian parent or grandparent had intermarried with White or Black Americans, some from military families while others not.) I realize now why these differences exist ( immigrantion patterns, colonial history, political events etc plus US military influence varies depending on what part of Asia is in question) and don't feel the same anymore.
Even in India, the representation is so warped: Chinese and Japanese are treated like synonyms, cultures in the North-East region are conflated with China and racism is rampant, like everywhere.
Well yeah I noticed that the Chinese and Indians being very racist toward each other. But I’m glad India isn’t communist. As an American of Chinese descent I’m appreciate the Indian cultural influences on China. Such the spread of Buddhism.
You know, it's times like these that I really envy people who know their heritage that precisely. As an African-American I have absolutely no idea what my heritage is other than "slave brought over to this coutnry from somewhere in Africa" and then at somepoint someone in my ancestory was r*ped by a white man. But then again, I guess my hope is that one day it won't really matter. As Anna pointed out, we're "rapidly attempting globalization"... but sometimes I think the amount of hate that we have in this world really means that this "attempt" will end up leading to World War III... so... fingers crossed?
I felt this comment so much. I have a great great grandmother who was a slave. I’m the lightest person in my family- from the face down I could pass for white (so I’ve been told ) the only exception being my hair which is 4c. I figure the closest I could come to finding my heritage is maybe those 23 and me things. Idk, it would be a start 🤷🏽♀️.
@asdf jkl; while this may be true it still doesn’t negate the fact that African-Americans rarely know their heritage like basically everyone else in America because we had it taken. It’s sad that everyone else can trace their origins back to a specific country while we can only wonder what country in Africa our ancestors may have come from. And even if you happen to get lucky and find out, trying to connect with that culture may not be easy.
@asdf jkl; Not assuming anything. It sounds like you're assuming. I was told this by my grandfather, so unless you're saying he's a liar, then let's "assume" it is the truth. Also, as the commentor above pointed out. I had (multiple) ancestors who were slaves, calling it anything else (building a country??) is romanticizing. You literally know less about my past than I do. I'm not sure why you're trying to turn it into a romantic adventure.
This is similar to the case in the Arab world. Arab countries have a lot of tension between them, there's a hierarchy, a lot if stereotypes... it's always awkward talking to an "Arab" from a country different than yours, when we share a lot of similarities
I don’t get there’s rivalry with the Turkish and Persians with Arabs. Because the Turks and Persians converted to Islam and also use arab script (ottoman Turks used arab script current Turkey doesn’t) Even though it was forced on them.
3:26 love your main point, but hate Starbucks and McDonald’s and the idea that globalisation means americanisation through big corporate chains… we definitely don’t want this. I am proud that Australians made Starbucks fail in Australia because we know that the coffee is so bad. Unfortunately there are still some stores, but everyone we can follow that example and resist the corporate capital monopoly during globalisation if we don’t eat and drink from such places every day.
Hm, ignoring a american company won't stop cultural imperialism, mainly because is not about capital is about culture and america is not the only imperialist country
And most chains aren't entirely monolithic around the world. McDonald's in New Zealand periodically does the Kiwi burger, KFC in China had chicken stew on rice. Things you don't get in the USA.
I never really understood why there was so much infighting in the Asian communities until I had a chance to sit and talk with a coworker some years ago about it. He's Cambodian and was trying to teach me some basic Khmer and we got into some of the history behind his country and it was really eye opening for me. I know most Americans like to think ourselves as very open to the experiences outside of our own country, but in reality we only focus on *our* relevant history. I would love to hear more stories from under-represented groups, even if they aren't all sunshine and roses. Take some time, talk to a neighbor who has a different background than yourself, and spend some time learning the stories that oft go overlooked in history.
Yeah, what a hard topic for an Asian girl making her living portraying herself as a victim in every episode…either her generation or her ethnicity while not acknowledging that the only reason she has this many subscribers is that she is attractive…yarf
Being mixed Indonesian and Croatian, I struggle with that aspect of how to describe my ethnicity and background. I struggled with the comments over the years of "Being too white to be local," or "Too local to be a foreigner". It stung bad, as I was raised with my culture surrounding me and tried my best to adopt it. I also was taught to prioritize my English first and foremost growing up. It costed me not being able to speak Balinese and my Indonesian being rougher than sandpaper. Overtime I just gave up trying to connect to my local culture at all. As I just felt burnt out from all the passive aggressive comments and discriminations due to me being mixed.. I love my family and home, and I respect my culture and ethnicities, no matter how mixed I am. I'd just rather be myself and not engage with any hierarchy bullshit. Speaking of Indonesian representation, I was really happy to see actors like Iko Uwais and Joe Taslim, make it internationally. Especially artists like Niki and Rich Brian making in the states and internationally. Here's hoping more diverse Asian representation makes it!
My understanding is that Indonesians keep their locals as priority. I'm sorry you faced racism as a result but if you moved to USA or to a western country you might face the same. The world is quite cruel this way and each group likes to reward their own
@@nonename7869 It's alright, I'm still here in Indonesian. Although I count myself as lucky to have supportive friends and family who can look past all that stuff. Discrimination exists everywhere, and it's a harsh reality. Although I still believe there are people all around the world who can look past those things and accept people for who they are.
@@derche4005 Sure, the long story short is that my father basically came here for work and met with my mother. Since he stayed and worked with Indonesia for a long time he decide to settle down and marry my mom. Rest is basically history lol.
Let me just say how I've always felt discriminated by the word asian. South Asians are never considered Asian but Brown or just "indian" or even Arab. I grew up hearing guys say i like Asians. As soon as I mention I'm asian, they go like no Asians like Chinese, Japanese, Filipino or Korean. What they mean to say is east Asian or bluntly I have a yellow fever. Even with this new asian fishing term circulating, it's about EAST Asians.
I feel that as a Balkan girl, Bulgarian, more specifically. Our turbulent Eastern European history makes it so that not only does the division happen within Bulgaria but also between many other Balkan countries, resulting in staggering hate. Hatred between Bulgarians especially abroad is kinda the standard at this point instead of creating helpful communities to hold together.
I am Sri Lankan American; I was left out by an Asian American org in uni to the point that I stopped atending "pan-Asian" events and orgs halfway thru uni.
Its funny I actually brought this up with some trendy, woke Asian friend's who preach "stop asian hate" yet talk crap about "other" Asian's and Asian guy's. They didn't like that I pointed out their hypocrisy. Glad I'm not the only one who sees this in the Asian community.
@@gumdeo one of my major gripes with the left, excusing black racism against everyone else is hypocritical, excusing east Asian racism against everyone else is hypocritical, why can't the message just be "don't be racist period"
@@newtonia-uo4889 because there is a thing called "Righteous Indignation" which means if someone slaps you FIRST in the mouth, you have every right to dislike them.
Wow, I thought this only happened with BlackAmericans. African blacks versus American Blacks, Latino Blacks vs American , Skin tone prejudice etc. It's sad. I understand now but never thought of it. It is fucked up enough those conflicts happens with anybody
It’s thrice as real with Latin countries. You get it from which country you are from, and then there’s the second tier of skin tone, and a third tier of how much Indigenous blood you have. Sometimes I have to laugh at my family who think that Americans can tell the different ancestries apart. “If you’d leave Miami, you’d see that most people will think you’re Mexican.”
Can you expand more about the African blacks versus American Blacks bit? I am African in America and all the black ppl around me immigrated from Africa so I've never thought about it.
This may sound harsh. Simply put , we should realize that our elders hold ideas best left in the past. Not everything grandma says is wise. Sometimes our own parents don't know what they're talking about. It doesn't matter how much they love you or the sacrifices they made for you. They can still be wrong. As a black man if I wanted to blame people for what their ancestors did I'd hate everyone. People are individuals and should be treated as such.
Nailed it. The far left adopting the belief of "blood guilt" (blaming the living for the actions of the dead) and the need for racial segregation and government to treat people differently by race is idiotic irony. Additionally they're shitting on the legacies and progress of so many that gave so much during the civil rights movement in the US.
@@layloo5244 racism is a problem and it exists in a segment of all cultures; It's a form of tribalism, one the most ancient and primal human social behaviors; "othering." The way to minimize it is to focus on our commonalities, not our differences.
This got me thinking about Lisa Manoban from Blackpink (kpop group). She receives a lot of hate just for being thai, despite being one of the most dedicate, hard working and charismatic idols of all time and just the sweetest person ever
oh yes. big fan of Lisa here. it really frustrates me how people (kpop fans pretty much) just casually bring up the race card as a way to mock or insult her...like u can critique or comment anything else while not being racist? and they can't even drag her talent so they use her race instead to degrade her...? also funny that lots of those racist remarks comes from other Asians especially...just cause a non-korean SEA woman is at the top of that specific industry. weird fellas
Growing up I was told from my mother that Korean, Japanese and Chinese were of higher tier than hmong. This made me have low self-esteem about myself as well as ignoring the similarities I shared with my one of my closest friends who is Chinese.
1 of 2. We Europeans hated each other: Slav (is where the word slave comes from), the Irish, Italians, Catholics Europeans, (a lot hate if your European and a different religion). 2 of 2. I asked someone from England her Christian demination. And she was shocked: she said, they don't talk about that in the U.K.
Yeah thing is those differences in the U.S. have largely faded over generations of assimilation into white " generic" American culture & intermarriage. And the history of many Asian cultures it way longer then most Eutopean ones. So intra Eutopean wars & conflicts seem pretty short by comparison!
White people also have a similar discrimination hierarchy... Scandinavians are envied, then you have the West Europeans and the Americans, then you have the Eastern Europeans and South Americans. It's just that, while White people can tell the difference amongst themselves, they simply see all "Asians" as one group, just like we Asians see them White people as one group.
It's kind of weird to think about really. Europeans have the same sort of "hierarchy" as Asians do. Scandinavians and Eastern Europeans are indeed envied. Are very tall, fair skinned. Mediterranean and Western Europeans have more of a olive skin tone and have a slightly different culture. Middle eastern and the North African coast host a lot of Caucasians too and are seen as more "primitive." Then you have the Americas where there is a rich diversity of various caucasians. When it comes to the US, most people just see white people as white. Same with Asians in the US, they are just seen as Asians. Most don't see the differences in the people and cultures. I have been to some Asian countries and it was an eye opener for me. North Korean and northern Chinese were taller and more fair skinned. Japanese seemed to be slightly smaller version of that. South China, Vietnamese, Cambodia, the Philippines and other countries in that region... you get into a more olive skinned people. Philipinnes had a Spanish influence for about 300 or so years. Where Thailand had a French influence. Indonesia and southeast India you get really dark skinned people in a lot of places. But you go to northwest India they become more Caucasian-like with the facial features and more olive skinned because there were vast migrations from Eastern Europe into India about 6000 years ago. I think it's neat to see such a rich variety of Asian people. Just like Caucasians.
@@OzAsbjorn India was a British colony. Many Indians have British surnames. Guess why. It's totally not about the migration 6000 years ago. And thing about skin colour, it has more about to do with the difference in climate, specifically temperature and sunshine. Also, Thailand does not have French influence. It was never colonized. Remember the movie "The King and I"? That was the Thai king. You don't have a local king in a colony. What you were thinking of is Vietnam, which was a French colony.
@@niccolom look up Indo-Aryan migrations into the India subcontinent. Some of those characteristics were indeed influenced from those migrations. You are right, India was a British colony at one point. So were many other countries throughout the world. The British and French had a big influence throughout the world. I was talking about the Vietnamese, not Thailand. Thailand was one of the only countries in that region not too deeply affected by European influence. I made an error there. Yes, the type of climate does factor in skin color. Hence when I was talking about northern and southern Europeans and Asian people and their skin color. Warm places with a lot of sun, expect people of a darker skin tone. With the opposite being true in places with not so much sunlight. My point was that it's neat to see the variety of people around the world.
There is a hiearchy of different Hispanic countries as well. Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Mexico, and then the Central America countries and the Caribbean countries. The hiearchy changes depending on who you talk to.
I rarely comment but gotta say, I grew up part Okinawan-Filipino in the Philippines myself but almost always have been treated differently or in a "superior" way cause of the Japanese side. Every minor mention you'd do about being Filipino would always make me feel a little more seen in the global/internet world. It may not be a big deal to you but I always did think that maybe you didn't think it was as cool ----now it makes sense with how you clarified how you were raised. Not that it's your responsibility to bear our flag, but this definitely does help people like me feel more empowered and seen ❤️ thank you for shedding such important light to these nuances, and to never be afraid of our "Jungle Asian-ness" ( as Ali Wong puts it) to be more out there It's not too late to get to know your Filipino side now and to embrace it! ❤️ Supporting you from the Philippines always.
let's also talk about how being mixed Asian (especially if mixed with a 'cooler' Asian type like Japanese/Korean OR, even better, mixed with White) is often perceived as more cool, beautiful, etc. - like damn what's so wrong with being 100% South or Southeast Asian?
My Vietnamese high school friend liked a Korean girl but her family wouldn't accept him. He married a Laotian girl and her family was cool with it. I guess her Dad liked him dating his daughter.
I'm Puerto Rican and my girlfriend is Korean and I can definitely relate to your Vietnamese friend. Her parents weren't crazy about me at first, I had to slowly win them over.
In school, I resented the fact that other kids were definitely excited about my 5-year stay in Japan versus my occasional visits to the Philippines (I'm Filipino). It was telling that the country that's not of my origin was the superior topic of breaking the ice. Also, I'm late in learning that Anna is part-Filipino, so that was a nice surprise.
Human hatred hierarchy: 1) Members in your own household, who as a group can hate 2) Surrounding neighbors where you live, who as a group can hate 3) Neighboring cities in your country, who as a group can hate 4) Neighboring countries, and people from them, who as a group can hate 5) Distant countries and people from them. And we wonder why no Aliens from another world have made contact- who would???
First of all, This comment section is pretty impressive. Most of these comments are stories that are well articulated and heartfelt, spawning constructive discussions. Good on all of you! Speaking of being one of the cool kids, I am half Hawaiian/Everything Else. Whenever I'm asked about heritage, it's always" that's so cool" I didn't do anything to deserve that, it's just the perception that is. I feel for people that don't get a fair shake at this. Wish I could expand, but gotta run. Love your content!
I shunned my Korean heritage for many years because I hated how my family lived in isolation going to Korean church, only having Korean acquaintances, and sticking within our community. Then they tried to be tiger parents with some liberalism and my stepdad who was also Korean provided an example of toxic masculinity on an abusive level which really made me hate my roots. When I finally left my family, I began a cultural purge within myself to eradicate anything Korean about me. I avoided eating Korean food, stopped speaking Korean altogether, and removed myself from the Korean community completely. But then being an only Korean among my circle of friends, class, and my synagogue made me realize how much I missed being Korean. My attempt at complete assimilation has made me feel as if I was missing something. It made me feel ashamed of denying who I was and I began a personal project to restore my lost ancient heritage. I realized you don't have to live in one world. You can be the best of both worlds where you reconcile both of your roots to form a unified identity.
Smh at the top comment. Toxic masculinity is harmful to men and women. And Children. Its emotionally and physically abusive. And the repercussions last years. Im glad you finally found your way, this is a common experience among Asian Americans and POCs in general
@@layloo5244 Toxic masculinity is deeply entrenched within deeply patriarchal Asian societies. Though South Korea has gotten somewhat better at progressing women's rights, it would be a while before feminism becomes mainstream within its conservative society.
Are you a dude or a chick. I’ve met Korean guy named Jun and and a Korean girl named Jun. I feel bad if you are a guy. East Asian girls are sometimes race traitors.
Hawaiians are NOT Asian, they're Pacific Islander and Polynesian. Claiming that they are perpetuates the erasure of Polynesian communities that are deemed invisible because they are inadvertently grouped with Asian communities.
I spent a month in Taiwan and was really welcomed by the Philippine community there. They were so kind. It was hard to see them and the Indigenous peoples be so mistreated a times, and I wonder if that was why they were so welcoming to me when I needed it.
I had no idea that Filipinos aren’t considered Asians. I live in Montreal Canada. We never thought that you didn’t apply to being Asian. If you were from other “poorer” nations. Than again it might have been just the bubble I lived in. That being said I’m married to a Filipina. My daughter is half Filipina and Pakistani. I’m gonna make sure she’s proud of being Canadian, Pakistani and Filipino. As everyone should be about their heritage.
I remember reading a comment how someone was told they were fulfilling their Asian bingo card for dating, felt that was pretty fucked up regardless which race it could've been lol
I've seen this among many East Asians, especially when it comes to class and status, and what I have noticed is that although these prejudices can be hard to eliminate, once the person who hold them interacts with the discriminated one, they slowly fade away. I try to be optimistic.
It's quite sad that it happens within the Asian community. I'm half Japanese and it's so annoying when people refer to the Japanese as being somehow superior than other Asians - sometimes I hear that from non-Asians, but more often from the nikkei community itself, with some people even justifying some injustices that happen in Japan (for example, quite a lot of factories here hire foreigners, pay them differently and give less benefits, based on nationality - and for the same job). And considering that, historically, the Japanese were the oppressors, not the oppressed, this is even more infuriating.
Anna, you did it again! I feel so called out :D When I meet other Asians and we get to know our backgrounds our like first small talk type of conversation is badmouthing Chinese people :D And yeah, I do get always excited about an asian-cast movie but get slightly upset when the protagonist is not openly Vietnamese. My father's family has real resentment toward some Asian types due to historical reasons, but in my case it's just jealousy that my kind is not represented as much in media :D
You got to remember though there are so many countries and cultures in the world that it's difficult to give representation to everyone especially in the USA where everything is framed from either white or black perspective. Even the term Hispanic representation doesn't mean much when you realize that falls to like every single country south of the USA who are all different from each other.
I used to work with a woman who was Thai, but ethnically Chinese. Like, her Chinese Grandparents went to Thailand, and their children and grandchildren only married other ethnically Chinese Thai people because they looked down on ethnically Thai people.... even though they MOVED to that country, learned the language, and adopted the culture... so weird.
I am a British Middle Eastern (mostly Middle Eastern), we live in the Middle East and my parents always talk about how the place is falling apart and going back to Britain because “they are more respectful”.
I'm also Indonesian, and growing up overseas, I realized that a lot of people (even in Asia) don't even know we exist, even though we have the 4th biggest population in the world. Even really nice people that mean no harm often forget my nationality and misidentify me as Malaysian. I guess it's partly because we're a developing country and not many Indonesians go overseas until maybe more recently. A lot of people don't even know that Bali is in Indonesia. That last one really angers me.
This is spot on! 👏👏👏 It’s sometimes hard to acknowledge and discuss a difficult topic like this but Anna spoke so eloquently and brilliantly (as always) ❤️
Living in Hawaii this was seen all the time and even extended into the Polynesian and islander groups. The hierarchy philosophy does seam to present itself in many different cultures but in a melting pot like you see in Hawaii, you see several different hierarchies at the same time from Asain to Polynesian to plantation workers to even white people. It is very interesting to see how and where some of these biases come from and how people react to each of them.
yes! When people say "asian" they typically mean East Asian, and I always ask in a polite but also call-out way "So do you mean actually all of Asia or just East Asia?" Sometimes people like to counter me with "You know what I mean. Everyone means korean/japanese/chinese when they say 'Asian'. You don't call Russians Asian do you?"
Well, being a bit pedantic here but most connotations people have with russia are the white people with viking ancestors from the age when the then viking Sweden went east. Like most people will think white when one say American... why cuz asian-american, Afro-American and such distinctions exist as words. But there absolutely exist tons of asian ancestry russians that are always from Russia.
And what's wrong with that? It seems silly to me that people are trying to jam every (very ethnically and culturally distinct) part of Asia into the well-established colloquial meaning of 'Asian' as specifically 'East Asian'. Especially while at the same time pushing against perceptions of cultural and ethnic monoliths. It would make the word 'Asian' so vague as to be meaningless, like 'North Hemispheran'. The boundaries of the 'continent' are completely arbitrary to begin with. I could maybe be persuaded that this is how the word is used in British English as opposed to North American, or how it makes sense to have that solidarity of similar immigrant experiences in America. But overall it seems like pedantry or a misfire at inclusivity.
@@Visocacas I suppose you don't understand the cultural similarities and overlapping history of different Asian countries, including East Asia. Is that right? I've noticed that people of non-Asian background always say things like "Asian" is meaningless but that's because they are unaware of the shared cultural heritage across the region. Just because the region is made up of different races and people who look different from each other, does not mean people in Asia don't share cultural similarities with each other. There is a common underlying heritage across most of the continent which is tied to the cultural influence of China and India just like how most of Europe is culturally tied by Greco-Roman heritage.
@@user-jt3dw6vv4x You can broaden or narrow your viewpoint to see the commonalities or differences between any groups of people. I don't doubt that South and East Asia have cultural and historical overlap (Buddhism comes to mind). Let me make it clearer for you: 1. All words are made up and meaning is determined by consensus. In North America, when people say 'Asian' most of the time what they mean is East Asian specifically. Meaning _can_ change, such as to include South Asia too. But when a lot of people say 'Asian' they _are_ just talking about East Asian, and it's pedantic prescriptivist and willfully ignoring the speaker's intended meaning to say that their use of the word is incorrect or exclusionary. 2. The concept of 'Asia' is fundamentally arbitrary to begin with. Russia, the Middle East, and even Europe are contiguous parts of the same landmass; why try to make the word 'Asian' include 'South Asian' and not other regions? 3. European and South Asian languages have common ancestry: Proto-Indo-European. Why not group South Asia with Europe instead? I'd argue because, same as South and East Asia, they're so different that it's not meaningful or useful to group them as the same region. I'm open to changing my opinion if there are good arguments to the contrary. Do you have any better arguments than "You're white so you must be wrong"?
I think this was when Raya & the last dragon first came out. It ended up making the SEA’s (south east asian) argue each other on what does it represent the most. That movie was made to MILKSHAKE all of that because its not going directly to 1 culture/country alone. Apparently due to the hats & the statues, people mostly assume it was all about Vietnam/Indonesia/Thai as it gets more complex to explain the details thoroughly because there’s 11 SEA countries. - a Filipino
I'm a 50ish white guy in Canada who's worked in the IT industry. I've seen things like this for decades with my coworkers. We all got along well enough but I could always see underlying levels of disrespect. It was sad. To end this on a more positive note, I hung out with them all after hours and have to thank them ALL for the best food tours in Toronto. I've eaten in places I never new existed thanks to their great cultures.
There you go. You're linking the Asian culture with "eating" and being foodies. On the other hand, I know it's difficult to avoid accidentally making racial stereotypes.
@Leandro Aude I'm not offended. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy here. "Closet racism" is a real thing. Look it up. And you, do you make a living out of being offended by people who are offended or something? What compelled you to make your comment?
It feels very similar to the hierarchy that exists in Latino cultures - between the countries themselves and then ethnic groups in the countries, the relationship to the US, and of course, class disparity. All of which is unique to each country
I met a Mexican girl at work that said Cuban and Puerto Rican food was werid and gross. I love Mexican food and have been exposed to a little bit of Puerto Rican food, lookinfg forward to Cuban cuisine the next time I’m in florida. Me (Taiwanese American) and boss (Indonesian Chinese) we’re in Florida years ago at a trade show in Orlando couldn’t locate any Cuban restaurants only found Mexican ones. Damn tourist area.
@@derche4005 thats really too bad to hear, but a good example of what i was talking about. Weird rivalry and tiny put downs that i dont really understand I’m Puerto Rican and i obviously love our food. Cuban food is similar but has its own dishes and uses certain ingredients more than others (when our dishes do overlap the Cuban ones tend to be less meat heavy and higher in tomato content, for instance) Mexican food is good but a lot of it I can’t eat because I’m allergic to beans. It’s much higher in corn and different types of chilis. Fuckin love tacos tho Puerto Rican spices are mild and more focused on flavor variety, we mostly use bell peppers or aji dulce if we do use peppers. Our veggies are more about roots and starches - batata, yuca, plátanos, guineos, etc we distinguish them as viandas vs verduras (green leafy or non-root veggies). Whereas other dialects dont necessarily
Laughing in Central-Eastern European :"D The decade or centuries old disputes between everything you just listed, yes very much so. The sad part is while the common folk is preoccupied with all this, the globalized politics and economics will just wipe out everyone's actually meaningful, unique and positive heritage, too :/
Def feel this - I think it's really important to build pan-Asian solidarity, especially within the diaspora! We know that our communities don't have equal access to opportunities even within the API community - and I think that's more of a reason to work together! We need to fight for everything from data disaggregation (because aggregating all of our data together hides inequalities within our communities) to voting access & language access to our public services.
im so sad thinking about how most korean parents are often concerned about their children loosing their lqnguage but ive noticed a lot of my filipina friend, their parents never teach them tagalog so they can "assimilate" better. I realize that may be a decision influenced by the "in asian predjudice" we see everydah
I feel your Indonesian friend so much. a lot of "Asian media representation" in the Americas don't properly reflect Southeast Asians and our diversity in culture. They also barely recognize north + central Asians e.g. the Asian Russians, the Uyghurs, Kyrgyz nomads, Kazaks, etc. Having grown up in Indonesia though, I think in Indonesian media, Indonesians also tend to represent the Americas as only people from the US or Mexico instead of acknowledging the diversity of the countries...so maybe it's a distance thing? Either way, there should be no "lesser" Asian. I believe everyone should be heard and represented equally.
I am not Asian myself, but after having lived and taught in China and Japan I hope for more unity within the Asian community. As a side note, Anna is looking absolutely amazing.
To be honest, it would be nice for them to lay down their weapons and go over and just talk over the more finite things that make it where they don't see each other as enemies but like neighbors. For example I live in Texas and I see Louisiana and Oklahoma for instance like my neighbors from the other side of the state and not only give them all the amenities of what Texas provides, but do try to learn on what makes things like in Louisiana great and after being there a few times I saw what they meant. If they did actually try to do that even if they still hated each other, it would be more like the equivalent of the snarky name calling a next door neighbor could do, but they don't really hate them. Honestly I think that's the closest anyone is going to get. I mean I have some Scottish in my ancestry and my girlfriend is Irish and the stereotypes says that we should hate each other, but so far we've been together for 2 years.
@@m3tr0id86 unfortunately the propagandist governments control the narrative and therefore the minds of the people. The best way for people to understand each other is for them to see things from the other side. But very few are willing to do that
it’s not as simple as you think. you have to look into why there’s discourse between these two countries. holding hands and singing kumbaya isn’t possible when Japan refuses to acknowledge their history. people, especially the more western parts of the world forget that the Japan as we see today is a rebranded version, and with that it comes with them refusing to acknowledge the horrors that they inflicted upon the other Asian countries during the world war. I’m from Malaysia and during their time here in WW2, and one of the things they did was they basically performed ethnic cleansing by hunting down and killing as many Chinese Malayan they could find bc the Japanese army thought that they were spies from China. I’m not going to pretend to know why China and Japan aren’t on friendly terms but I can at least understand that it’s not easily fixed and it’s not a matter of “laying down their weapons”. basically they’re going on with their lives refusing to teach their younger generation what they did to us. which is not okay. we aren’t problems they could bury, we’re people who suffered badly in their hands.
Sandra Oh was in an Independent Film where she goes to an audition and is told she is the wrong kind of Chinese: if she's Mandarin, the role is for a Cantonese character; but if she's Cantonese, the role is for a Mandarin character.
To be frank, the term "Asian" in the American context composes the majority of the world population. Bundling all these people together by whatever ambiguous factors is really just the incompetence of racism. For instance, the hierarchy referred to in this clip is not a consensus by "Asians" in anyway. If you talk to any Japanese, Korean or Chinese, they will likely give you different hierarchy rankings on so-called Asian tiers. I'd also say all "Asians" should get alone because "Asians" also sound very much like colonialism, but I sympathize with this comes from second generations and above. The concept of Asian is baked in, and so is the lack of understanding. I regard the sentiment as purely well-intentioned.
What do you mean "American context"? Asians actually ARE the majority of the world population (roughly 60%), it's a fact. "Asian" describes anyone with a permanent residence on the Asian continent. I don't know what exactly you are trying to say in your comment, but the term is in fact NOT (or at least not primarily) some kind of racial profiling or whatever else you are trying to make it out to be. I do however agree with what you say about the different hierarchies among Asians themselves, that they shift depending on who you ask.
My experiences with Asian communities have usually been very toxic, competitive, entitled, and narcissistic, collective mentality growing up. Being raised by south Asian parents felt like now looking back like I was a form of cult.
My daughter is dealing with her mom not wanting to teach her Tagalog (daughter is Mexican/Filipino)......her excuse is so "my daughter don't undermine me in the future" It's why my kid is learning Spanish and wife is hating it 😂
As a child, I was taught by my asian stepmom there were three tiers of asians. On top, were the city asians (Japan and Korea) in the middle were the jungle asians (Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam) and at the bottom were the Chinese. She left out the Indians since she didn't see them as "Asian". As an adult and having lived in two cities in America with very large asian populations and travelled to the far east I have observed this first hand and was blown away at how blatant and overt the racism is/was. Oh and this is also applies to black and brown people which all the tiers agree are lower on the scale than they are.
There was a similar tier system that was created in Southeast Asia during the late 20th century and propagated by Asian leaders like Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia and Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore in which East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans) were at the top, South Asians (Indians, Sri Lankans etc.) were in the middle and Southeast Asians (Malays, Thai, Filipinos etc) were at the bottom. The racial hierarchy was born out of the fact that East Asia was the most developed part of Asia and thus East Asians were seen as the most successful Asian group. Ethnic Chinese in Southeast Asia were also the economically dominant group in the region so they were seen as superior. South Asians came in second place in part because India (like China) was one of the main cultural powers in Asia during the ancient time. Most high culture traditions in East, South and Southeast Asia trace back to India and China. Ethnic Indians in Singapore and Malaysia were also well off compared to the native Malays and Singapore's rapid ascent to first world status saw living standards for ethnic Chinese and Indian Singaporeans rise far higher than those of the Malays. So the Indians were seen as better than the native Southeast Asians but not as good as the Chinese/East Asians. The native Southeast Asians were at the bottom because the idea was that due to the warm climate, people were more relaxed and did not face the realities of harsh environments like the cold that the northern East Asians face. Additionally, the economic and social dominance of the ethnic Chinese and Indians in Southeast Asia created this idea that the native Southeast Asians were no match to the East and South Asians. Casually racist remarks were made regularly during this time period and this racial hierarchy also played a role in creating stereotypes associated with particular groups in Southeast Asia that continue to persist today.
@@user-jt3dw6vv4x Mahathir Mohamad? So you mean Malays have a concept of some kind of social hierarchy and racial hierarchy like East Asians? I doubt your statement, I'm not Malay but my ethnicity is still related to Malay, my culture is egalitarian, we don't have social hierarchy, let alone racial hierarchy, I think Malay is the same
@@anomalianomali5080 Yes it was Mahathir Mohamad but this isn't a concept that exists in Malay culture/society. It's just an archaic racial hierarchy that was propagated in modern Malaysia through discussions during the late 20th century to explain the reason for why Malaysians of Chinese and Indian (particularly Chinese) descent were outperforming Malays (the same thing was discussed in Singapore, where Chinese and Indians also outperformed the Malays at a higher rate). It's a racist concept and I'm not surprised that Mahathir supported such a belief. The man seemed to grapple with self hatred at times.
I'm Indonesian but I mostly grew up watching american shows/movies and everytime they just even mention the word "Indonesia" or something I would be so shocked and surprised idk why
First time I’ve heard about you. I’m Filipino, Spanish, Micronesian, German, Irish, Portuguese, French Canadian. 5’5” Male (Filipino height) w/ Caucasian skin tone. I’m Mestiso that grew up with Filipino culture living most of my life on mainland USA. 1st generation Filipino/ American. Many people don’t understand the differences of other Asian cultures unfortunately but I tried to educate as much as possible. A lot of discrimination and racism at times but I tried educating friends so they can understand different Asian differences. We aren’t all the same as many people think. I’ve been living in Oahu, HI for the past 8 years and it’s been the best thing I’ve ever done. Primarily because I’m just like everyone else where many people are Asian/ Pacific Islander mixed. Just another Hapa or Mestiso boy where all the cultures meld together. Point of my story is: Beautiful Hawai’i nei is the best place to be if your Asian or Pacific Islander and/or mixed in anyway
When did the term "Asian" start becoming commonly used? How did it start? 30-40 years ago, it was Oriental, South Asian, middle eastern etc. Generic term "Asian" was rarely used.
Actually, I knew about this hierarchy within the Asian community---we have the same thing among Afro-Americans, Afro-Carribean-Americans, and Africans.
The common Asians I've seen in media are Chinese, Japanese, S Koreans, and Indians. There's really not that much representation for other races but perhaps this is just the start since I can see them paving the wave for others. One can hope right! Also, I did not know you have Filipino in you, very cool!
Naw the world really needs to understand that “Asian” isn’t just China, Japan and Korea. There are brown skinned Asians and dark skinned Asians. We are not all the same and we are not all represented. When people think of any sort of Asian representation they just think about East Asians, and that’s harmful to everyone else because it reinforces the narrative that we’re all the same when really Asia is a massive continent filled with so many diverse countries, cultures and ethnic groups. Even East Asian people are ignorant to this, because they think that any sort of representation should revolve around them. It’s a lot of classism, racism and colorism at work.
Isn't it the same about white people and blacks and latinx? Most people talking in terms of race or skin colour, really only think about one specific group
Nice! People should be aware that there are 5 regions in Asia, also America is not just U.S.A. People in NA and SA are also Americans but not all of them are US Citizens, of course.
@@ecophile yes, definitely with latinx people as well. but right now we're talking about the culture and perspectives within the asian community specifically, in first world predominantly white countries where asian people are minorities as well as respective asian countries.
@@kevinroyceho It comes with being the minority, and is not a US thing only. Is human nature to do those things. Also, as a latino, don’t you use latinx again, is a made up word that is actually offensive to our culture.
Oof felt this- once befriended two boys who sat next to me in class in high school. They both thought I was Japanese or Korean. When they found out I was Filipina, they stopped talking to me. But they were Southeast Asian, too. 🤡
damn
What clowns! =-= I hate how we’re all basically racist to each other, even though we all have so much in common.
Beh pag ganyan, sapakin mo lang HAHAHAHAHA
@@oncefighting 😂
WOW
As a Filipino living in the Philippines, there IS a lot of pressure to adapt to not only Western beauty standards, but also East Asian beauty standards. The hierarchy is real.
Reject western degenarate
Then make your own beauty standard
Same as an indonesian
@@user-ka3qui8lo7e starting to. But not that easy.
Everyone in PH is lowkey pressuring you to be fair skinned af when we get temperatures as high as 41 degrees in the summer. And also the glorification of glow up culture ugh
Remember guys Asia starts in Istanbul and goes all the way to Indonesia, there are so many stories that we miss out. Maybe we should just watch more foreign films. What's your favourite film from your country?
Hong Kong - the first McDull animation
(ik we have so much to offer in the film department from kung fu flicks to chinese vampires to cop films to stephen chow comedies to wong kar-wai but my answer remains unchanged)
India but Kerala specifically( bc every state has its own traditions, language, entertainment) I would recommend Bangalore days because it has comedy, love, drama and is a movie I come back to time and time again. You should definitely give it a watch!!
Isnt istanbul part of middle east? So we consider Lebanese asian or not?
@@suisui7481 Istanbul straddles the Bosporus which is the geological border between Europe and Asia, so yes one side of Istanbul is in Asia.
I don't watch films from shithole countries
Yesss! I felt this! As a Southeast Asian (with no home affiliated country - I’m Hmong), I love the Asian support but always feel super sad because most stories don’t represent my communities or our stories are pushed down because they’re associated with poor, refugee stories and not the glamorous model minority stories
There is a great hero from your community now. Sunisa Lee. You must be proud!
So glad to hear your perspective. Asians of lesser number like Cambodian Burmese Thai often group together because there's safety in numbers and often don't get supported by larger standalone Asian groups like Chinese Japanese and Korean who have more established communities. This is because countries in around the golden triangle were more impoverished and had fewer immigrants in the 1950s to set up the foundation. The Chinese Japanese and Korean groups each had similar problems of their own but as there's always a language and culture barrier it's understandable that these groups didn't bond. Filipinos blended more naturally with Hispanic and Mexicans due to spanish and shared last names. Hopefully more people from central Asia will share their stories.
I didn’t even know what Hmong was until I fell in love with the first love of my life. She was amazing and I miss her even though we are having a catch up dinner next month 😂😅. Explanation: she broke up with me but still bothers me to see her for dinner from time to time. And I do it because I’m secretly still in love with her.
Hmong community is strong and got each other backs in the areas they live in, I seen it a lot in social media, it’s very cool
A friend of mine is Hmong, but I've stopped asking her about her culture, due to a miscommunication... She said that she was about to get married & could not be friends with me anymore because of it (still unsure of what she might mean, did it mean because I'm not Hmong? Because I'm male? Because I'm a bad influence? Because she thought I'd disrupt her marriage in some way? I've absolutely no clue... Fast forward a few years, & she contacted me out of the blue, as apparently something happened, & she didn't marry that guy... I'll likely never ask her anything about her culture, but it's more due to me potentially not liking the answers, but, you just made me want to contact her to see how she's doing...😄
This is how I found out Anna is Filipina, and also that the foot thing I do is apparently a common Filipino thing.
Also pointing at things with your mouth. 🤣 My british colleagues and ex-bf got weirded out by it sometimes.
Ahh haha, I also never knew the foot thing was a common Filipino thing! I always just thought it was something my family did 😂 And my dad would always point at stuff with his mouth too 😅
Yooooo i was straight up like, "ANNA'S FILIPINA?!"
Yes lol
Her mother is. In one of her earlier videos Anna's parents are in it and they are REALLY attractive! Anna's HOT Mom!
My professor (Indian) went to Georgetown for her PhD. She was encouraged to speak to people from other countries so she signed up to the Asian club. She was immediately told that it was for “Asians” and she was like ??!! India is in Asia? So yeah 😂
same thing happened to me. i was told as an Indian man, I am NOT Asian. Sad.
@@sanjeevpaul Meanwhile, as a mostly white high school kid I went and joined the local University "International Student Club"- for reference, I was born, raised and lived within 3 miles of the Uni, which I was not attending (yet)- I'll give you exactly three guesses as to how many zero problems I encountered joining the club.
@Phantom it’s literally in Asia my dude. In the exact middle. Next to Pakistan which is also in Asia. Indian Subcontinent is the most important part of Asia for trade.
@Phantom Yeah but North East Indians are pretty similar to South East Asians. Parts of south east Asia are culturally very very similar to India too. I guess “Asian” is mostly a racial tag than a location one.
@Phantom are you saying Indians are white?
I'm Vietnamese. I learned at 10 years old that we were exploited in every way by richer (sometimes Asian) countries. Sex tourism happened here, cheap labor happened here, human trafficking happened here, poverty tourism LARPing happened here. It was especially hard when we were looked down upon by other North Asians who came to OUR country because most of us were just a commodity to them. My resentment against other Asians really stemmed from this experience of growing up in Saigon during the early 2000s. Recognizing and resolving this prejudice was only easier than integrating into US society coming from a monoethnic culture.
Can you explain poverty tourism LARPing? I know what LARP is but I've never heard it used in this context.
@@olandir My guess is she's talking about rich people sending their kids to a poor place to "experience being poor", in hopes of growing empathy within them. They would then make it PR move on news media about how they are "in touch" with the normal people.
Most often times, this kind of experience would give the exact opposite effects to the kids, in that the stereotyping of poor people, the discrimination, and protectionism of their own wealth, would all grow.
i learned a lot from reading your comment. thank you for sharing
I came here to understand the LARP part... I feel like I do now and am more saddened by reality than I was a minute ago.
Hi I'm born from the heritage of one of those northern fancy Asians but raised Canadian so am not one of your oppressors but am related to them. My family has never taken part in marginalizing others or taking advantage of the weak or poor, but I know that my culture was rich and self sustaining before the opium wars taught lessons of addictive exploitative capitalism. The British brought whiskey and small pox to the Native (first nations) Indians of North America very much the same way as they did opium to China. These "drugs" debilitated the first settlers to make it easier to defeat them.
After the opium wars Hong Kong became a British (slave) colony where those who have white skin would be in an elite privileged class. You can watch Ip Man 4 to see some references. A number of films depict this history and the older generations of Chinese don't hold on to the bitterness but do remember.
The hierarchy of capitalism and corporations have been modeled and so North Asians (because Asians are smart survivors) took that business model to other countries that they could exploit in the same way. I would say from my observation through the years Indonesian, Filipina and Thai maids were the most common in Hong Kong while Vietnamese refugees were refused entry. Keep in mind who was in charge of Hong Kong in those days.
North Asians who arrived to Malaysia Thailand etc were often fugitives or were looking for a new opportunity for their lives. Being industrious and hard working shouldn't be a crime. Currently the Chinese are being viewed as exploiters of Africa, but without the Chinese giving Africa the chance in the early 2000s, Africa would look like Africa of 1980 which is pretty much what it looked like for the previous 100 yrs.
In a nutshell I blame colonialism for setting the example. Hurt people hurt people and all we can do is try not to perpetuate the cycle. 🙏
it is true what Anna said, The higher class Asians are considered to be the ones living up in the North such as China, Korea and Japan. I'm Malaysian and other countries around me in South East Asia like Indonesia, Philippines, Brunei etc.. don't get that much spotlight when it comes to the outside world. It always has to do with the colour of our skin too; "are you the light coloured Asian or the dark coloured Asian?"
I don’t think it’s about the color of the skin, it’s more depending on how wealthy that country and the size of the economy. What comes to your mind when think about North Korea?
@@windsorhamilton8012 PRISON
It doesn’t matter 😉
It's always been kinda weird for me to even identify as asian, since I'm Indian, and I've felt so much othering from the Asian community, and so much aversion to East Asian features like monolids from my Indian community. We're all always between a rock and a hard place :(
Indians are South Asians, so..
same
Do you, as an Indian person, even feel the need to identify as Asian? I always got the impression that India was one of those entities that don't really associate themselves too much with the continents they're located on, like Russia, the Uk, Egypt, some other middle eastern countries, etc.
I don't have too much of an opinion on this. But I do think its interesting how both east and southeast asia have been heavily influenced by Buddhism, which is indeed from India. Buddhism is a large part of what makes up the asian "spirit" so to speak. Even as a Filipino, we lost our Hindu-Buddhist heritage, and yet it still persists in subtle ways.
@@coin5207 true, i often see people do not associate india with asia. but im not sure if i like it this way. sounds racist to me.
oh i FELT this one. i never felt “asian” enough growing up even though i lived in a primarily filipino city because most of the representation we had in the states were east asians, and i specifically remember a time in sixth grade where i was told filos weren’t asian, which confused the hell out of me because that’s how i identified myself at that point (and how i identify to this day, but that’s besides the point)
It means they like you and didn't think of you as THEM - the target northern fancy Asian nerds who work too hard. Also Filipinos blended with Latinos because of language and last name. Also similar attitudes toward enjoying life. It's understandable but doesn't make it right.
I think it’s come down to mostly how you look. If you look “Asian” people will see and treat you as such and if you look white or Hispanic people will treat you that way regardless if you say you’re Asian. Every Filipino I know look Asian so to me you all are my Asian peeps
@@slightlyopinionated8107 this is an excellent point. I once knew a mixed girl who looked full native (First Nations) and no one would believe that she was half Chinese. Obviously she knew what she was but people were intentionally mean and picked on her.
Filipino here (born and raised in the Philippines) and bruh the way you spoke Tagalog without actually saying any Tagalog words messed with my brain a lot 😂
Haha I know! Same here! I replayed that part so many times to try and catch some Filipino words, but there were none 😂 Also though, her Filipino accent is on point!
Bruh I kept replaying it to the point I just gave up and thought she spoke some kinda dialect. 🤣
My mom and lola speak taglog around me and never teach me it. So I mock them and say "bok bok" like a chicken 😡😡 they laugh.
@Leandro Aude
Yeah, it totally was. Which at first I found frustrating, but then I realized, "Duh. The whole point of that skit is that Anna honestly can't know how to speak Tagalog because her mom didn't teach her. So how could she say anything?" Like, I feel like the fact that she just spoke gibberish was the main punchline of the skit 😂
Hahahahahahahah
I'm half-Filipino and half-Japanese and when I was younger I was so obsessed with figuring out your ethnicity to see if you were like me!!!
Halfu
Is she half-filipino & half-Japanese?! 🤔
I think she more Hawaiian and Filipino. But she's mixed, like so many people
Your ethnicity does not define you
@@blume0121 facts
totally and if we want to really go in depth into this there is probably a lot to unpack like I'm from Hong Kong where the British colonists brought over Indians to be policemen (because they don't want Cantonese Chinese to let Cantonese people who commit petty crimes go) and Gurkha soldiers from Nepal, and to this date there is still institutional racism and racism from the chinese majority, other than postcolonial issues, there is also the fact that racism is always treated as a white PC thing to talk about in HK (and other Asian countries) as if Asians could only be the victims, as if Asians aren't hella racist against black and brown people. Class is also a complicating factor, though far from the whole story. You'll definitely have it much much easier if you're a rich Indian but that doesn't make you immune from racism.
I wrote a response to someone from Vietnam and hope you can read that and reach out to me if what I shared makes sense. I would love to connect with others who want to unpack and unite the world in peaceful coexistence. Hopefully you can find it (or care to find it).
@@nonename7869 hi I read it I feel like colonialism is only part of the problem, while it certainly established a racial hierarchy, that hierarchy is also complicated by class. (richer people look down on poorer people, and usually the whites are richer than the chinese who are richer than the indians, and the rich would obviously like to continue to be rich; if we bring the filipino/indonesian domestic workers and vietnamese refugees into this equation that will be a whole another thing involving the economies and politics of those countries and the lack of childcare/elderly care facilities and resources in HK and the whole vietnamese bride thing no I need to stop with this tangent oh but one last thing HK exploits foreign domestic workers so that its economy can prosper, complicated feminist issue at hand ok I'll stop) I believe with or without the colonialists, people are racist and classist. Look at Mainland China, they have not been colonized (most of them anyway) they are just as racist, if not more racist. An interesting point I've noted about the racism in Mainland China vs that of Hong Kong is that in Mainland China, there are state-affiliated media who support and propagate racism against countries they are fighting a war with e.g. India. Also I feel like the lack of diversity is part of what makes (East) Asia so racist, e.g. in Hong Kong, a relatively "diverse international city", only 8% of the population are non-Chinese. In somewhere like say, London, the percentage is 40%. Exposure usually lead to more accepting attitudes towards different cultures. (/rambling)
Hong Kong people regularly discriminate against Chinese
@@300blackcats Hong Kong people obtained a higher status over the mainland Chinese while profiting from the rule of colonialism. They inherited financial and cultural superiority which poisoned the relationship with ML China. Mainland Chinese only learned to retaliate when HK treated them just as badly as they treated all other Asians. We all originated from a similar poor background. Less than 100 yrs ago our great grandparents were mostly farmers.
Thank you for bringing up Gurkha soldiers too. I am from Nepal but I know alot of Nepalese soldiers facing these types of racism
"I'm Asian too guys"
"Nah, you're just Sri-Lankan, you're not a real Asian like us" - Filipino girl in my group who liked to pretend she was Korean like her friend...
Firstly, tell her to learn some geography (I assume she was raised in the US). Secondly, tell her that I want to have a special meeting with her in my basement.
OMG!!! Really?!
I’m Sri Lankan too and maybe it’s cus of online experiences other countries but now whenever I’m interacting with people from other races i still have that internal feeling of inferiority. But i don’t even really approach anyone anymore cus i feel like they’ll look at me yknow “different”. (Ik my thinking is toxic)
Relatable
I am Sri Lankan American and I was often excluded in an Asian American org I was in, to the point that I just stopped associating with pan-Asian orgs
I’m Chinese-Indonesian, but I grew up in Singapore, so it’s kinda weird and I often have difficulty expressing where I’m from. Asian is a super broad term. And there is certainly truth to the notion of racial and/or national hierarchy in Asia. Racism is super complicated in Asia and your privilege depends on race, skin color, culture, and location, because different people have privilege in different circumstances. It’s not as simple as “white people on top versus the world.”
True. Im Chinese - Indonesian Malay living in Brunei Darussalam. You feel like you do not fit in due to purity race, xenophobia and etc.
"white people on top vs the world" -- some truly believe this in places like North America.
Asians' privilege system first depends on social economy status though.
when you mentioned Singapore....I can imagine the comparison between folx living in Newton Orchard vs the Seng Kang, Hougang, and Little India. And of course the never ending squibble between Singapore and Malaysia.
I know an Aussie woman who is ethnic Chinese. She is Chinese Indonesian born and raised but migrated to the Netherlands and then to Australia. I always feel fascinated about that.
As a mixed person myself being half Nicaraguan quarter Thai and Filipino. I realized when I began making more Asian friends that places like Thailand the Philippines were really looked down on. Like I had “friends” that would invalidate my Asian heritage. Saying things like oh but Jaz you’re not really Asian you’re jungle Asian. Or you don’t really look Asian because you’re more dark sinned. And I totally understand the parents not wanting to teach their native language because they don’t feel like it would help me succeed. Like what ? Or even being Nicaraguan and not more prominent Latinx cultures like Mexico. It’s really frustrating when others do that because there’s not active representation of just how large and culturally even ethnically diverse Asia is.
Ya I'm sorry about that. Everything you just said sounds legit. The upside to your mix is that you're good looking and have a unique and non cookie cutter identity.
@@ayykayy_ damn you nailed it! And I'm sorry for the trials in your life... Looks like you handle it with grace and education.❤️🙏👍
@@ayykayy_ when I was a teen the first gal I fell madly in love with was Japanese and my family didn't support it because they were still holding the bitterness about Nanking and the war. I didn't care and continued to be friends with that girl till now. My best friend in those days was madly in love with a super cute Filipina and my friends parents were not supportive. That Filipina gal is still very cute and we all remain friends. It's up to us to bridge those divides through mutual love respect and forgiveness.
@@ayykayy_ also my first major crush Japanese gal told me back then that even though she's full Japanese, since she isn't born in Japan she wouldn't be viewed / treated as Japanese in Japan because that's just how exclusive Japanese people in Japan are.
Yes! I was going to comment about how it’s the same with Latin-American cultures, but you beat me to it. As a Nicaraguan myself, I’m happy that films like Coco and Encanto have released in the U.S., but I seriously doubt I’ll ever see myself fully represented in film/television because Nicaragua is one of the “lesser” Latin-American countries and not one of the bigger ones like Mexico smh
Growing up Filipino I’ve seen aunts of mine not teach our language to my cousins because it could “dilute” their English (like what?) My fluency in all three (English, Filipino, Cebuano) only made me a better speaker and I once had this conversation with a coworker of mine told me Filipino’s are not Asian. I was about to lose it and then it mf clicked. I was too Westernized for a 1st gen immigrant and because I blended too well I didn’t fit the category 😩
I do not know if your aunts are first gen immigrant to a western country, but maybe their intention was to reduce the suffering their children may have due to limited assimilation and potential isolation to the local community.
It's a common misconception that raising kids bilingually will cause them to not learn the local language as well or have an accent, which isn't true at all. If anything, there are lots of benefits to being bilingual.
@@thomasonlu1720 I can see this. A common slur amongst Filipino-Americans where I lived was “FOB” to hate on people who couldn’t speak the language fluently. This was back in the early 2000s where I imagine flippant bullying for having an accent was a bit more widespread than today.
Oddly enough, the Filipinos who called other Flips “FOBs” could only speak English. Haha
@@voodoolilium Yes knowing and being able to speak multiple languages do help with coordination of complex information, but often these kinds of information are not presented to those without an academic background / suffer from a lack of information, which unfortunately is very true among a proportion of first gen immigrants
@Leandro Aude fresh off the boat.
Yup. I'm Taiwanese-American, teaching English in Japan, and I have a Filippino coworker who told me a lot about how badly Filippinos are treated in Japan (a cab driver even straight up asked her if she worked in a bath house... I'm assuming he meant as sex or cleaning work). Even this year, I saw a job posting on an English tutoring site based in Japan that explicitly pointed out giving LESS of an already-low salary to Filippinos that apply, compared to Japanese English-speakers or English-speakers that aren't Filippino. Not only was it racist, it made no sense to me since English is MUCH more widely used in the Philippines than in Japan, so it's more likely that a Filippino would be fluent in English than a Japanese English-speaker.
Asians against Asians is honestly so ridiculous... and it really is akin to high school hierarchical structures: petty, toxic, wholly unnecessary.
I think he was assuming she was a sex worker which is disgusting. Talking about boundaries... I'm sure he was interested in her that way. 🤢 It's insane but Kabukicho is full of those 'bat houses' and 'massage saloons'. Everyone is so busy idolizing Japan but then these kind of things and even worse things exist there like 'childhood friend' frangnances and stuff. W. T. F. Japan is so charming but then at the same time equally fucked up as well.
@@Ailiys Oh for sure. If there's anything I've learned about Japan, it's that they're great at advertising themselves as this super awesome country to the rest of the world. And while it's true that the country is relatively much safer than a lot of places, and the people are generally polite/keep to themselves... Japan is definitely very effed up in many ways. And I've seen a lot of like... The ignorant type of racism (moreso in older folks than in kids, but still). Anti-foreigner protests aren't uncommon either.
@@azaeum6012 @Christina Loo I actually heard some of those protests, it's crazy. Sounding just like the Chinese gov.
I don't get the country romanticisers. I assume they just don't wanna see the reality and thinking just like folks in bad realitionships. Thinking it would be different for them. And then people gets angry when reality not connects to their fantasies. Or maybe getting a breakdown like Paris Syndrome's victims. 😂
I LOLED AT YOUR JAPANESE ACCENT HAHAHAHAHH I almost spit out my coffee, I was not expecting that hahah
Very cringe comment
I was in the bus and was laughing so much I almost do a circus act.
@@-phantom-8207 nah but yours is
@@re_negado I literally didn’t even smile bruh
@@-phantom-8207 Congrats I guess.
As sad as it sounds, Filipinos (like me) do put a lot of East Asian and Western countries on a pedestal without realizing that none of those countries will ever see the Philippines in the same kind of light except maybe when they need a lot of viewers to support them (pinoybaiting) in videos and media because it gives us this illusion of 'positive representation' and being validated by others. (Excluding the other people/figures who genuinely love the Philippines/Filipinos) We LOVE being included in people's content because we've always been told that we're at the very bottom of the spectrum. At the end of the day, we still get mocked for our accents in spite being so fluent in English, we still get called a 'slave country' by some, people only highlight the 'dangerous' parts of the Philippines and we continuously turn a blind eye to it because everyone wants to be something else rather than just being a Filipino. Everyone's biggest flaw right now is ignorance and It's a sad reality I don't think a lot of us have realized yet. I just hope that it changes someday.
It's got a lot to do with the wealth of the country, and not the culture.
People measure other people's worth by how much they think other people might value them.
The mere fact that people are already talking about is a big progress, since people finally recognised it as a problem.
I never put any culture race on a pedestal, why? If we all are here in the US , all i do is try to outperform them at school or at work. Now if I put anybody on a pedestal its not because of race it’s because they are smarter or have better skills than me.
Even within Indian representation, it’s people of the Dominant Caste in the Hindi Belt who are represented the most because they had the resources to move but the fact that we’re treated as a monolith works for the privileged Indian. (Also, before anyone gets their pitchforks ready, privilege in terms of ascribed caste location aka Social Capital and not merely wealth)
So true, cannot agree more, I have never seen a dalit in foreign media, it's either Tam bramin or north Indian Brahmin or Sikh, there are lot malayslis too but I don't know much about them. Kapoor's and shirvasthavas everywhere. And the generalization of hindi, don't even let me start on it.
@@Floral_chronicles24 true, only north indians get media representation. when it comes to north east indians, east indians, west and south indians they have this harmful stereotype and they keep reinforcing it
@@cosmicstargirI facts
@@cosmicstargirI yessss correct 💯 true
and i didnt know this until recently, there's a lot of colorism incorporated into that caste system, with wealthy indian women buying skin bleaching products and i rarely see indian models with truly darker skin. sad, because both are beautiful.
I'm Iranian, and when I first told my Chinese close friend that I'm also geographically Asian, her mind was blown.
Wow. Just wow. *SMH*
Trust me Asians think iran is in the middle East.
@@youreboichips3872 it *is* in the middle east. But middle east is not a continent. It's just a word used for a part of the world that US (and previously UK) really love to invade. Half of middle eastern countries are in Asia and the other half are in Africa.
@@youreboichips3872 they are. But yeah Middle East is in Asia too.
@@SolinoOruki North Africa the Arab non black part lol
Anna’s new hair looks so good!!
As a Filipino, I just wanna hug all the other Filipinos in the comments that had to hear "Filipinos aren't Asian" or "Filipinos are the ___s of Asia." I definitely internalized at one point that "I'm not Asian. I'm Pacific Islander" in high school until a girl in my class who is also Filipino remind me that Japan is also an island and they're considered Asia.
it's so ridiculous considering the fact that the Philippines has a large population in SE Asia
The moment with her mom was TOO real 😭😂
Zero clue she was part Filipina until now. At the 2 minute mark with the "no teach tagalog" is something I connect with. For me though it was expressed more jokingly with my parents saying something in tagalog, asking if I understood what they said, then laugh about it. Definitely grew up more Americanized in regards to language.
That is a shame, if there's one thing that needs to be passed down, it's the language.
@@newtonia-uo4889, the language issue never disappears.
I wonder how many cultural barriers Anna could break with her unique ability to magically appear in anyone's house at any time.
LMAO
She could magically appear in my house anytime! 😜🤪😍
I'm Indian-American and grew up on the West coast - I remember there was a time when I envied how both NE and SE Asians fit into American society more than South Asians.
Just some examples: Most of my Korean, Vietnamese and Filipino classmates had "Anglo" or some type of Western European-origin first names.A lot of them were Christian or of blended Christian/Buddhist background. There were plenty of multiracial kids like Anna herself, too (full Asian parent or grandparent had intermarried with White or Black Americans, some from military families while others not.)
I realize now why these differences exist ( immigrantion patterns, colonial history, political events etc plus US military influence varies depending on what part of Asia is in question) and don't feel the same anymore.
Even in India, the representation is so warped: Chinese and Japanese are treated like synonyms, cultures in the North-East region are conflated with China and racism is rampant, like everywhere.
Well yeah I noticed that the Chinese and Indians being very racist toward each other. But I’m glad India isn’t communist. As an American of Chinese descent I’m appreciate the Indian cultural influences on China. Such the spread of Buddhism.
@@derche4005 We tried Communism, it didn’t work. We were one of the hubs of Buddhism, and we failed to uphold it lol
@@chetan8026 Yeah, after years of neglect. More work has to be done.
I feel this in my heart as a half Laotian girl. I actually had a Vietnamese classmate ask me, “aren’t you guys poor?”
You know, it's times like these that I really envy people who know their heritage that precisely. As an African-American I have absolutely no idea what my heritage is other than "slave brought over to this coutnry from somewhere in Africa" and then at somepoint someone in my ancestory was r*ped by a white man. But then again, I guess my hope is that one day it won't really matter. As Anna pointed out, we're "rapidly attempting globalization"... but sometimes I think the amount of hate that we have in this world really means that this "attempt" will end up leading to World War III... so... fingers crossed?
I felt this comment so much. I have a great great grandmother who was a slave. I’m the lightest person in my family- from the face down I could pass for white (so I’ve been told ) the only exception being my hair which is 4c. I figure the closest I could come to finding my heritage is maybe those 23 and me things. Idk, it would be a start 🤷🏽♀️.
@asdf jkl; while this may be true it still doesn’t negate the fact that African-Americans rarely know their heritage like basically everyone else in America because we had it taken. It’s sad that everyone else can trace their origins back to a specific country while we can only wonder what country in Africa our ancestors may have come from. And even if you happen to get lucky and find out, trying to connect with that culture may not be easy.
get a DNA test
Did you literally romanticize slavery? “They helped build this country “ This has to be some AI bs or some troll account…FOH with that nonsense
@asdf jkl; Not assuming anything. It sounds like you're assuming. I was told this by my grandfather, so unless you're saying he's a liar, then let's "assume" it is the truth. Also, as the commentor above pointed out. I had (multiple) ancestors who were slaves, calling it anything else (building a country??) is romanticizing. You literally know less about my past than I do. I'm not sure why you're trying to turn it into a romantic adventure.
This is similar to the case in the Arab world. Arab countries have a lot of tension between them, there's a hierarchy, a lot if stereotypes... it's always awkward talking to an "Arab" from a country different than yours, when we share a lot of similarities
I don’t get there’s rivalry with the Turkish and Persians with Arabs. Because the Turks and Persians converted to Islam and also use arab script (ottoman Turks used arab script current Turkey doesn’t) Even though it was forced on them.
3:26 love your main point, but hate Starbucks and McDonald’s and the idea that globalisation means americanisation through big corporate chains… we definitely don’t want this. I am proud that Australians made Starbucks fail in Australia because we know that the coffee is so bad. Unfortunately there are still some stores, but everyone we can follow that example and resist the corporate capital monopoly during globalisation if we don’t eat and drink from such places every day.
Hm, ignoring a american company won't stop cultural imperialism, mainly because is not about capital is about culture and america is not the only imperialist country
@@Faboostic of course, but but america is one if not the worst.
@Leandro Aude hahaha no
And most chains aren't entirely monolithic around the world. McDonald's in New Zealand periodically does the Kiwi burger, KFC in China had chicken stew on rice. Things you don't get in the USA.
I hate Starbucks and McDonald's products too, but if others want to consume them who are we to dictate to them what personal choices they should make?
I never really understood why there was so much infighting in the Asian communities until I had a chance to sit and talk with a coworker some years ago about it. He's Cambodian and was trying to teach me some basic Khmer and we got into some of the history behind his country and it was really eye opening for me. I know most Americans like to think ourselves as very open to the experiences outside of our own country, but in reality we only focus on *our* relevant history. I would love to hear more stories from under-represented groups, even if they aren't all sunshine and roses.
Take some time, talk to a neighbor who has a different background than yourself, and spend some time learning the stories that oft go overlooked in history.
Anna, you're so beautiful!!!!!!! Also I love your videos. Thank you for talking about tough topics and making them funny and easy to understand
HI Holly
Yeah, what a hard topic for an Asian girl making her living portraying herself as a victim in every episode…either her generation or her ethnicity while not acknowledging that the only reason she has this many subscribers is that she is attractive…yarf
Being mixed Indonesian and Croatian, I struggle with that aspect of how to describe my ethnicity and background. I struggled with the comments over the years of "Being too white to be local," or "Too local to be a foreigner". It stung bad, as I was raised with my culture surrounding me and tried my best to adopt it. I also was taught to prioritize my English first and foremost growing up. It costed me not being able to speak Balinese and my Indonesian being rougher than sandpaper.
Overtime I just gave up trying to connect to my local culture at all. As I just felt burnt out from all the passive aggressive comments and discriminations due to me being mixed.. I love my family and home, and I respect my culture and ethnicities, no matter how mixed I am. I'd just rather be myself and not engage with any hierarchy bullshit.
Speaking of Indonesian representation, I was really happy to see actors like Iko Uwais and Joe Taslim, make it internationally. Especially artists like Niki and Rich Brian making in the states and internationally. Here's hoping more diverse Asian representation makes it!
My understanding is that Indonesians keep their locals as priority. I'm sorry you faced racism as a result but if you moved to USA or to a western country you might face the same. The world is quite cruel this way and each group likes to reward their own
@@nonename7869 It's alright, I'm still here in Indonesian. Although I count myself as lucky to have supportive friends and family who can look past all that stuff.
Discrimination exists everywhere, and it's a harsh reality. Although I still believe there are people all around the world who can look past those things and accept people for who they are.
Interesting to hear how your parents met?
@@IndoCroatPerson by niki..do you mean nikki howard? The woman who does the comedy sketches?! 🤔
@@derche4005 Sure, the long story short is that my father basically came here for work and met with my mother. Since he stayed and worked with Indonesia for a long time he decide to settle down and marry my mom. Rest is basically history lol.
Let me just say how I've always felt discriminated by the word asian. South Asians are never considered Asian but Brown or just "indian" or even Arab.
I grew up hearing guys say i like Asians. As soon as I mention I'm asian, they go like no Asians like Chinese, Japanese, Filipino or Korean. What they mean to say is east Asian or bluntly I have a yellow fever.
Even with this new asian fishing term circulating, it's about EAST Asians.
I feel that as a Balkan girl, Bulgarian, more specifically. Our turbulent Eastern European history makes it so that not only does the division happen within Bulgaria but also between many other Balkan countries, resulting in staggering hate.
Hatred between Bulgarians especially abroad is kinda the standard at this point instead of creating helpful communities to hold together.
I am Sri Lankan American; I was left out by an Asian American org in uni to the point that I stopped atending "pan-Asian" events and orgs halfway thru uni.
Its funny I actually brought this up with some trendy, woke Asian friend's who preach "stop asian hate" yet talk crap about "other" Asian's and Asian guy's. They didn't like that I pointed out their hypocrisy. Glad I'm not the only one who sees this in the Asian community.
Hypocrisy is so widespread. Bashing others behind their backs.
@@gumdeo one of my major gripes with the left, excusing black racism against everyone else is hypocritical, excusing east Asian racism against everyone else is hypocritical, why can't the message just be "don't be racist period"
@@newtonia-uo4889 because there is a thing called "Righteous Indignation" which means if someone slaps you FIRST in the mouth, you have every right to dislike them.
Wow, I thought this only happened with BlackAmericans. African blacks versus American Blacks, Latino Blacks vs American , Skin tone prejudice etc. It's sad. I understand now but never thought of it. It is fucked up enough those conflicts happens with anybody
It’s thrice as real with Latin countries. You get it from which country you are from, and then there’s the second tier of skin tone, and a third tier of how much Indigenous blood you have. Sometimes I have to laugh at my family who think that Americans can tell the different ancestries apart. “If you’d leave Miami, you’d see that most people will think you’re Mexican.”
Lol Hispanics/Latin Americans are constantly in a pissing war too. I guess we're all fucked.
Can you expand more about the African blacks versus American Blacks bit? I am African in America and all the black ppl around me immigrated from Africa so I've never thought about it.
And Black Caribbeans vs Black Americans too. Another that I see a bit less of would be Africans vs Black Latin Americans
This may sound harsh. Simply put , we should realize that our elders hold ideas best left in the past. Not everything grandma says is wise. Sometimes our own parents don't know what they're talking about. It doesn't matter how much they love you or the sacrifices they made for you. They can still be wrong. As a black man if I wanted to blame people for what their ancestors did I'd hate everyone. People are individuals and should be treated as such.
@Leandro Aude North Carolina 🇺🇸
@Leandro Aude yes
Nailed it.
The far left adopting the belief of "blood guilt" (blaming the living for the actions of the dead) and the need for racial segregation and government to treat people differently by race is idiotic irony. Additionally they're shitting on the legacies and progress of so many that gave so much during the civil rights movement in the US.
Nonetheless white people still holding onto racist ideologies from their grandmas are a problem
@@layloo5244 racism is a problem and it exists in a segment of all cultures; It's a form of tribalism, one the most ancient and primal human social behaviors; "othering."
The way to minimize it is to focus on our commonalities, not our differences.
This got me thinking about Lisa Manoban from Blackpink (kpop group). She receives a lot of hate just for being thai, despite being one of the most dedicate, hard working and charismatic idols of all time and just the sweetest person ever
oh yes. big fan of Lisa here. it really frustrates me how people (kpop fans pretty much) just casually bring up the race card as a way to mock or insult her...like u can critique or comment anything else while not being racist? and they can't even drag her talent so they use her race instead to degrade her...? also funny that lots of those racist remarks comes from other Asians especially...just cause a non-korean SEA woman is at the top of that specific industry. weird fellas
@@FataLity1200 Some Koreans consider South-East Asians as inferior.
Growing up I was told from my mother that Korean, Japanese and Chinese were of higher tier than hmong. This made me have low self-esteem about myself as well as ignoring the similarities I shared with my one of my closest friends who is Chinese.
are hmong people part of the confucius/sinosphere culture too? because AFAIK, values like social hierarchy are just a sinosphere culture.
@Anomali Anomali looking up what sinosphere means...in technicality, yes. We are SEA who were affected by China thousands of years ago.
@Anomali Anomali I would like to clarify that I'm not sure about Confucius influence. Never learned about it from my parents.
I'm from Bangladesh and people literally never talk about us ever lol
Good.
1 of 2. We Europeans hated each other: Slav (is where the word slave comes from), the Irish, Italians, Catholics Europeans, (a lot hate if your European and a different religion).
2 of 2. I asked someone from England her Christian demination. And she was shocked: she said, they don't talk about that in the U.K.
Yeah thing is those differences in the U.S. have largely faded over generations of assimilation into white " generic" American culture & intermarriage. And the history of many Asian cultures it way longer then most Eutopean ones. So intra Eutopean wars & conflicts seem pretty short by comparison!
White people also have a similar discrimination hierarchy... Scandinavians are envied, then you have the West Europeans and the Americans, then you have the Eastern Europeans and South Americans.
It's just that, while White people can tell the difference amongst themselves, they simply see all "Asians" as one group, just like we Asians see them White people as one group.
It's kind of weird to think about really. Europeans have the same sort of "hierarchy" as Asians do. Scandinavians and Eastern Europeans are indeed envied. Are very tall, fair skinned. Mediterranean and Western Europeans have more of a olive skin tone and have a slightly different culture. Middle eastern and the North African coast host a lot of Caucasians too and are seen as more "primitive." Then you have the Americas where there is a rich diversity of various caucasians. When it comes to the US, most people just see white people as white. Same with Asians in the US, they are just seen as Asians. Most don't see the differences in the people and cultures. I have been to some Asian countries and it was an eye opener for me. North Korean and northern Chinese were taller and more fair skinned. Japanese seemed to be slightly smaller version of that. South China, Vietnamese, Cambodia, the Philippines and other countries in that region... you get into a more olive skinned people. Philipinnes had a Spanish influence for about 300 or so years. Where Thailand had a French influence. Indonesia and southeast India you get really dark skinned people in a lot of places. But you go to northwest India they become more Caucasian-like with the facial features and more olive skinned because there were vast migrations from Eastern Europe into India about 6000 years ago. I think it's neat to see such a rich variety of Asian people. Just like Caucasians.
@@OzAsbjorn India was a British colony. Many Indians have British surnames. Guess why.
It's totally not about the migration 6000 years ago.
And thing about skin colour, it has more about to do with the difference in climate, specifically temperature and sunshine.
Also, Thailand does not have French influence. It was never colonized. Remember the movie "The King and I"? That was the Thai king. You don't have a local king in a colony. What you were thinking of is Vietnam, which was a French colony.
@@niccolom look up Indo-Aryan migrations into the India subcontinent. Some of those characteristics were indeed influenced from those migrations. You are right, India was a British colony at one point. So were many other countries throughout the world. The British and French had a big influence throughout the world. I was talking about the Vietnamese, not Thailand. Thailand was one of the only countries in that region not too deeply affected by European influence. I made an error there. Yes, the type of climate does factor in skin color. Hence when I was talking about northern and southern Europeans and Asian people and their skin color. Warm places with a lot of sun, expect people of a darker skin tone. With the opposite being true in places with not so much sunlight. My point was that it's neat to see the variety of people around the world.
There is a hiearchy of different Hispanic countries as well. Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Mexico, and then the Central America countries and the Caribbean countries. The hiearchy changes depending on who you talk to.
You forgot South America.
@@sebastienzarate9408 Yes South America too. Its sad that some people see some Latin counties as inferior to others but they do.
The fast skits and editing are so on point. I can’t drink coffee while watching her without risking multiple spit-takes.
This is interesting would you mind telling more about your perspective?
I rarely comment but gotta say, I grew up part Okinawan-Filipino in the Philippines myself but almost always have been treated differently or in a "superior" way cause of the Japanese side. Every minor mention you'd do about being Filipino would always make me feel a little more seen in the global/internet world. It may not be a big deal to you but I always did think that maybe you didn't think it was as cool ----now it makes sense with how you clarified how you were raised. Not that it's your responsibility to bear our flag, but this definitely does help people like me feel more empowered and seen ❤️ thank you for shedding such important light to these nuances, and to never be afraid of our "Jungle Asian-ness" ( as Ali Wong puts it) to be more out there
It's not too late to get to know your Filipino side now and to embrace it! ❤️ Supporting you from the Philippines always.
I'm Chindian and felt this in my half-breed soul.
let's also talk about how being mixed Asian (especially if mixed with a 'cooler' Asian type like Japanese/Korean OR, even better, mixed with White) is often perceived as more cool, beautiful, etc. - like damn what's so wrong with being 100% South or Southeast Asian?
Brown. If you're South or Southeast Asian, what's wrong is that you're brown
My Vietnamese high school friend liked a Korean girl but her family wouldn't accept him. He married a Laotian girl and her family was cool with it. I guess her Dad liked him dating his daughter.
I'm Puerto Rican and my girlfriend is Korean and I can definitely relate to your Vietnamese friend. Her parents weren't crazy about me at first, I had to slowly win them over.
In school, I resented the fact that other kids were definitely excited about my 5-year stay in Japan versus my occasional visits to the Philippines (I'm Filipino). It was telling that the country that's not of my origin was the superior topic of breaking the ice. Also, I'm late in learning that Anna is part-Filipino, so that was a nice surprise.
Human hatred hierarchy:
1) Members in your own household, who as a group can hate
2) Surrounding neighbors where you live, who as a group can hate
3) Neighboring cities in your country, who as a group can hate
4) Neighboring countries, and people from them, who as a group can hate
5) Distant countries and people from them.
And we wonder why no Aliens from another world have made contact- who would???
Damn you put it perfectly. Humans are messed up
First of all, This comment section is pretty impressive. Most of these comments are stories that are well articulated and heartfelt, spawning constructive discussions. Good on all of you!
Speaking of being one of the cool kids, I am half Hawaiian/Everything Else. Whenever I'm asked about heritage, it's always" that's so cool" I didn't do anything to deserve that, it's just the perception that is. I feel for people that don't get a fair shake at this. Wish I could expand, but gotta run. Love your content!
I shunned my Korean heritage for many years because I hated how my family lived in isolation going to Korean church, only having Korean acquaintances, and sticking within our community. Then they tried to be tiger parents with some liberalism and my stepdad who was also Korean provided an example of toxic masculinity on an abusive level which really made me hate my roots. When I finally left my family, I began a cultural purge within myself to eradicate anything Korean about me. I avoided eating Korean food, stopped speaking Korean altogether, and removed myself from the Korean community completely. But then being an only Korean among my circle of friends, class, and my synagogue made me realize how much I missed being Korean. My attempt at complete assimilation has made me feel as if I was missing something. It made me feel ashamed of denying who I was and I began a personal project to restore my lost ancient heritage. I realized you don't have to live in one world. You can be the best of both worlds where you reconcile both of your roots to form a unified identity.
@Leandro Aude I am not going to respond to some repressed male who is temperamental, potentially abusive, and aggressive.
Smh at the top comment. Toxic masculinity is harmful to men and women. And Children. Its emotionally and physically abusive. And the repercussions last years. Im glad you finally found your way, this is a common experience among Asian Americans and POCs in general
@@layloo5244 Toxic masculinity is deeply entrenched within deeply patriarchal Asian societies. Though South Korea has gotten somewhat better at progressing women's rights, it would be a while before feminism becomes mainstream within its conservative society.
Are you a dude or a chick. I’ve met Korean guy named Jun and and a Korean girl named Jun. I feel bad if you are a guy. East Asian girls are sometimes race traitors.
@@layloo5244 Geghis Khan was one of the greatest Asian men in history
Hawaiians are NOT Asian, they're Pacific Islander and Polynesian. Claiming that they are perpetuates the erasure of Polynesian communities that are deemed invisible because they are inadvertently grouped with Asian communities.
You said this perfectlyyy 💯
I spent a month in Taiwan and was really welcomed by the Philippine community there. They were so kind. It was hard to see them and the Indigenous peoples be so mistreated a times, and I wonder if that was why they were so welcoming to me when I needed it.
I had no idea that Filipinos aren’t considered Asians. I live in Montreal Canada. We never thought that you didn’t apply to being Asian. If you were from other “poorer” nations. Than again it might have been just the bubble I lived in.
That being said I’m married to a Filipina. My daughter is half Filipina and Pakistani. I’m gonna make sure she’s proud of being Canadian, Pakistani and Filipino. As everyone should be about their heritage.
But Filipinos are Asian and they are considered Asians. It's some of the Filipino kids who grew up in the USA having an identity crisis.
I remember reading a comment how someone was told they were fulfilling their Asian bingo card for dating, felt that was pretty fucked up regardless which race it could've been lol
I am Asian and I love all my Asian brothers and sisters.
I am whatever I am and I don't love everybody who is is made up the same way or not. I love some of the people whom I know exist.
@@egcerritos We're not even the same. Asian is group as geography rather than culture or genetics.
Which country? Thailand, China, Sri Lanka, Japan, Bangladesh... Don't get me started with India and Pakistan and how many racial groups exist there.
@@잡았다요놈-y9w True that. I'm North American.
Anna, you look SPLENDID in bangs omg
🙄 She looks splendid in anything, let’s be real.
@@jpoeng Trrruuuuu
I've seen this among many East Asians, especially when it comes to class and status, and what I have noticed is that although these prejudices can be hard to eliminate, once the person who hold them interacts with the discriminated one, they slowly fade away. I try to be optimistic.
It's quite sad that it happens within the Asian community. I'm half Japanese and it's so annoying when people refer to the Japanese as being somehow superior than other Asians - sometimes I hear that from non-Asians, but more often from the nikkei community itself, with some people even justifying some injustices that happen in Japan (for example, quite a lot of factories here hire foreigners, pay them differently and give less benefits, based on nationality - and for the same job).
And considering that, historically, the Japanese were the oppressors, not the oppressed, this is even more infuriating.
It's not rare, it happens with Celtics, blacks and my culture (not as much nowadays though)
Anna, you did it again! I feel so called out :D When I meet other Asians and we get to know our backgrounds our like first small talk type of conversation is badmouthing Chinese people :D And yeah, I do get always excited about an asian-cast movie but get slightly upset when the protagonist is not openly Vietnamese. My father's family has real resentment toward some Asian types due to historical reasons, but in my case it's just jealousy that my kind is not represented as much in media :D
Your surname sounds like it's Czech, interesting
You got to remember though there are so many countries and cultures in the world that it's difficult to give representation to everyone especially in the USA where everything is framed from either white or black perspective. Even the term Hispanic representation doesn't mean much when you realize that falls to like every single country south of the USA who are all different from each other.
I used to work with a woman who was Thai, but ethnically Chinese. Like, her Chinese Grandparents went to Thailand, and their children and grandchildren only married other ethnically Chinese Thai people because they looked down on ethnically Thai people.... even though they MOVED to that country, learned the language, and adopted the culture... so weird.
I am a British Middle Eastern (mostly Middle Eastern), we live in the Middle East and my parents always talk about how the place is falling apart and going back to Britain because “they are more respectful”.
I'm Hmong, I forget a lot of people don't remember us since I live in a state where a lot of us reside.
I'm also Indonesian, and growing up overseas, I realized that a lot of people (even in Asia) don't even know we exist, even though we have the 4th biggest population in the world. Even really nice people that mean no harm often forget my nationality and misidentify me as Malaysian. I guess it's partly because we're a developing country and not many Indonesians go overseas until maybe more recently. A lot of people don't even know that Bali is in Indonesia. That last one really angers me.
Malays, Filipinos, and Indonesians are a part of the Malay race this is excluding the ethnic Indians and Chinese.
The first time I met Malaysians and Indonesians I thought they are both Filipinos.
This is spot on! 👏👏👏 It’s sometimes hard to acknowledge and discuss a difficult topic like this but Anna spoke so eloquently and brilliantly (as always) ❤️
Living in Hawaii this was seen all the time and even extended into the Polynesian and islander groups. The hierarchy philosophy does seam to present itself in many different cultures but in a melting pot like you see in Hawaii, you see several different hierarchies at the same time from Asain to Polynesian to plantation workers to even white people. It is very interesting to see how and where some of these biases come from and how people react to each of them.
yes! When people say "asian" they typically mean East Asian, and I always ask in a polite but also call-out way "So do you mean actually all of Asia or just East Asia?" Sometimes people like to counter me with "You know what I mean. Everyone means korean/japanese/chinese when they say 'Asian'. You don't call Russians Asian do you?"
Well, being a bit pedantic here but most connotations people have with russia are the white people with viking ancestors from the age when the then viking Sweden went east.
Like most people will think white when one say American... why cuz asian-american, Afro-American and such distinctions exist as words.
But there absolutely exist tons of asian ancestry russians that are always from Russia.
And what's wrong with that? It seems silly to me that people are trying to jam every (very ethnically and culturally distinct) part of Asia into the well-established colloquial meaning of 'Asian' as specifically 'East Asian'. Especially while at the same time pushing against perceptions of cultural and ethnic monoliths. It would make the word 'Asian' so vague as to be meaningless, like 'North Hemispheran'. The boundaries of the 'continent' are completely arbitrary to begin with.
I could maybe be persuaded that this is how the word is used in British English as opposed to North American, or how it makes sense to have that solidarity of similar immigrant experiences in America. But overall it seems like pedantry or a misfire at inclusivity.
But funny enough we all do know what they mean. 🤣
@@Visocacas I suppose you don't understand the cultural similarities and overlapping history of different Asian countries, including East Asia. Is that right? I've noticed that people of non-Asian background always say things like "Asian" is meaningless but that's because they are unaware of the shared cultural heritage across the region. Just because the region is made up of different races and people who look different from each other, does not mean people in Asia don't share cultural similarities with each other. There is a common underlying heritage across most of the continent which is tied to the cultural influence of China and India just like how most of Europe is culturally tied by Greco-Roman heritage.
@@user-jt3dw6vv4x You can broaden or narrow your viewpoint to see the commonalities or differences between any groups of people. I don't doubt that South and East Asia have cultural and historical overlap (Buddhism comes to mind). Let me make it clearer for you:
1. All words are made up and meaning is determined by consensus. In North America, when people say 'Asian' most of the time what they mean is East Asian specifically. Meaning _can_ change, such as to include South Asia too. But when a lot of people say 'Asian' they _are_ just talking about East Asian, and it's pedantic prescriptivist and willfully ignoring the speaker's intended meaning to say that their use of the word is incorrect or exclusionary.
2. The concept of 'Asia' is fundamentally arbitrary to begin with. Russia, the Middle East, and even Europe are contiguous parts of the same landmass; why try to make the word 'Asian' include 'South Asian' and not other regions?
3. European and South Asian languages have common ancestry: Proto-Indo-European. Why not group South Asia with Europe instead? I'd argue because, same as South and East Asia, they're so different that it's not meaningful or useful to group them as the same region.
I'm open to changing my opinion if there are good arguments to the contrary. Do you have any better arguments than "You're white so you must be wrong"?
I think this was when Raya & the last dragon first came out. It ended up making the SEA’s (south east asian) argue each other on what does it represent the most. That movie was made to MILKSHAKE all of that because its not going directly to 1 culture/country alone.
Apparently due to the hats & the statues, people mostly assume it was all about Vietnam/Indonesia/Thai as it gets more complex to explain the details thoroughly because there’s 11 SEA countries. - a Filipino
I'm a 50ish white guy in Canada who's worked in the IT industry. I've seen things like this for decades with my coworkers. We all got along well enough but I could always see underlying levels of disrespect. It was sad.
To end this on a more positive note, I hung out with them all after hours and have to thank them ALL for the best food tours in Toronto. I've eaten in places I never new existed thanks to their great cultures.
There you go. You're linking the Asian culture with "eating" and being foodies.
On the other hand, I know it's difficult to avoid accidentally making racial stereotypes.
@@niccolom he never said they were foodies.. plus, why is it wrong to link a race with their food which is part of their culture?
@Leandro Aude lol you're trolling this whole comment section... I've seen you reply on several people already 🤣
@Leandro Aude I'm not offended. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy here. "Closet racism" is a real thing. Look it up.
And you, do you make a living out of being offended by people who are offended or something? What compelled you to make your comment?
It feels very similar to the hierarchy that exists in Latino cultures - between the countries themselves and then ethnic groups in the countries, the relationship to the US, and of course, class disparity. All of which is unique to each country
I met a Mexican girl at work that said Cuban and Puerto Rican food was werid and gross. I love Mexican food and have been exposed to a little bit of Puerto Rican food, lookinfg forward to Cuban cuisine the next time I’m in florida. Me (Taiwanese American) and boss (Indonesian Chinese) we’re in Florida years ago at a trade show in Orlando couldn’t locate any Cuban restaurants only found Mexican ones. Damn tourist area.
@@derche4005 thats really too bad to hear, but a good example of what i was talking about. Weird rivalry and tiny put downs that i dont really understand
I’m Puerto Rican and i obviously love our food. Cuban food is similar but has its own dishes and uses certain ingredients more than others (when our dishes do overlap the Cuban ones tend to be less meat heavy and higher in tomato content, for instance)
Mexican food is good but a lot of it I can’t eat because I’m allergic to beans. It’s much higher in corn and different types of chilis. Fuckin love tacos tho
Puerto Rican spices are mild and more focused on flavor variety, we mostly use bell peppers or aji dulce if we do use peppers. Our veggies are more about roots and starches - batata, yuca, plátanos, guineos, etc we distinguish them as viandas vs verduras (green leafy or non-root veggies). Whereas other dialects dont necessarily
Laughing in Central-Eastern European :"D
The decade or centuries old disputes between everything you just listed, yes very much so. The sad part is while the common folk is preoccupied with all this, the globalized politics and economics will just wipe out everyone's actually meaningful, unique and positive heritage, too :/
I was gonna say, "I bet people from Poland or Croatia are going, 'tell me about it...'."
The Japanese-CHinese-Korean tier to asians is just as the same as American-British-Australian tier whites.
Def feel this - I think it's really important to build pan-Asian solidarity, especially within the diaspora! We know that our communities don't have equal access to opportunities even within the API community - and I think that's more of a reason to work together! We need to fight for everything from data disaggregation (because aggregating all of our data together hides inequalities within our communities) to voting access & language access to our public services.
I love learning about this stuff. Keep up the good work, Anna!
im so sad thinking about how most korean parents are often concerned about their children loosing their lqnguage but ive noticed a lot of my filipina friend, their parents never teach them tagalog so they can "assimilate" better.
I realize that may be a decision influenced by the "in asian predjudice" we see everydah
You're amazing ❤️ tackle all the unspoken subjects. Your parents did something really right in raising you and your gifted self. So talented you are!
I feel your Indonesian friend so much. a lot of "Asian media representation" in the Americas don't properly reflect Southeast Asians and our diversity in culture. They also barely recognize north + central Asians e.g. the Asian Russians, the Uyghurs, Kyrgyz nomads, Kazaks, etc. Having grown up in Indonesia though, I think in Indonesian media, Indonesians also tend to represent the Americas as only people from the US or Mexico instead of acknowledging the diversity of the countries...so maybe it's a distance thing?
Either way, there should be no "lesser" Asian. I believe everyone should be heard and represented equally.
I am not Asian myself, but after having lived and taught in China and Japan I hope for more unity within the Asian community. As a side note, Anna is looking absolutely amazing.
To be honest, it would be nice for them to lay down their weapons and go over and just talk over the more finite things that make it where they don't see each other as enemies but like neighbors. For example I live in Texas and I see Louisiana and Oklahoma for instance like my neighbors from the other side of the state and not only give them all the amenities of what Texas provides, but do try to learn on what makes things like in Louisiana great and after being there a few times I saw what they meant.
If they did actually try to do that even if they still hated each other, it would be more like the equivalent of the snarky name calling a next door neighbor could do, but they don't really hate them. Honestly I think that's the closest anyone is going to get. I mean I have some Scottish in my ancestry and my girlfriend is Irish and the stereotypes says that we should hate each other, but so far we've been together for 2 years.
@@m3tr0id86 unfortunately the propagandist governments control the narrative and therefore the minds of the people. The best way for people to understand each other is for them to see things from the other side. But very few are willing to do that
@@FF2Guy With that dude I wish that wasn't so painfully true
it’s not as simple as you think. you have to look into why there’s discourse between these two countries. holding hands and singing kumbaya isn’t possible when Japan refuses to acknowledge their history. people, especially the more western parts of the world forget that the Japan as we see today is a rebranded version, and with that it comes with them refusing to acknowledge the horrors that they inflicted upon the other Asian countries during the world war. I’m from Malaysia and during their time here in WW2, and one of the things they did was they basically performed ethnic cleansing by hunting down and killing as many Chinese Malayan they could find bc the Japanese army thought that they were spies from China.
I’m not going to pretend to know why China and Japan aren’t on friendly terms but I can at least understand that it’s not easily fixed and it’s not a matter of “laying down their weapons”.
basically they’re going on with their lives refusing to teach their younger generation what they did to us. which is not okay. we aren’t problems they could bury, we’re people who suffered badly in their hands.
Sandra Oh was in an Independent Film where she goes to an audition and is told she is the wrong kind of Chinese: if she's Mandarin, the role is for a Cantonese character; but if she's Cantonese, the role is for a Mandarin character.
Not even remotely asian but that special by Ali Wong had me dying. By far one of the funniest things I've ever seen on Netflix
Indonesia...damn, "The Raid" was such a good movie. Times are changing and I can't wait to see more talented individuals from around the world.
To be frank, the term "Asian" in the American context composes the majority of the world population. Bundling all these people together by whatever ambiguous factors is really just the incompetence of racism. For instance, the hierarchy referred to in this clip is not a consensus by "Asians" in anyway. If you talk to any Japanese, Korean or Chinese, they will likely give you different hierarchy rankings on so-called Asian tiers.
I'd also say all "Asians" should get alone because "Asians" also sound very much like colonialism, but I sympathize with this comes from second generations and above. The concept of Asian is baked in, and so is the lack of understanding. I regard the sentiment as purely well-intentioned.
What do you mean "American context"? Asians actually ARE the majority of the world population (roughly 60%), it's a fact. "Asian" describes anyone with a permanent residence on the Asian continent. I don't know what exactly you are trying to say in your comment, but the term is in fact NOT (or at least not primarily) some kind of racial profiling or whatever else you are trying to make it out to be.
I do however agree with what you say about the different hierarchies among Asians themselves, that they shift depending on who you ask.
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Parents yelling at me in tagalog and not teaching me got me 😂
My experiences with Asian communities have usually been very toxic, competitive, entitled, and narcissistic, collective mentality growing up. Being raised by south Asian parents felt like now looking back like I was a form of cult.
My daughter is dealing with her mom not wanting to teach her Tagalog (daughter is Mexican/Filipino)......her excuse is so "my daughter don't undermine me in the future"
It's why my kid is learning Spanish and wife is hating it 😂
What? Your wife doesn't want to teach them Tagalog, and she also hates them learning Spanish? What does she want?
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As a child, I was taught by my asian stepmom there were three tiers of asians. On top, were the city asians (Japan and Korea) in the middle were the jungle asians (Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam) and at the bottom were the Chinese. She left out the Indians since she didn't see them as "Asian".
As an adult and having lived in two cities in America with very large asian populations and travelled to the far east I have observed this first hand and was blown away at how blatant and overt the racism is/was. Oh and this is also applies to black and brown people which all the tiers agree are lower on the scale than they are.
There was a similar tier system that was created in Southeast Asia during the late 20th century and propagated by Asian leaders like Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia and Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore in which East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans) were at the top, South Asians (Indians, Sri Lankans etc.) were in the middle and Southeast Asians (Malays, Thai, Filipinos etc) were at the bottom.
The racial hierarchy was born out of the fact that East Asia was the most developed part of Asia and thus East Asians were seen as the most successful Asian group. Ethnic Chinese in Southeast Asia were also the economically dominant group in the region so they were seen as superior. South Asians came in second place in part because India (like China) was one of the main cultural powers in Asia during the ancient time. Most high culture traditions in East, South and Southeast Asia trace back to India and China. Ethnic Indians in Singapore and Malaysia were also well off compared to the native Malays and Singapore's rapid ascent to first world status saw living standards for ethnic Chinese and Indian Singaporeans rise far higher than those of the Malays. So the Indians were seen as better than the native Southeast Asians but not as good as the Chinese/East Asians. The native Southeast Asians were at the bottom because the idea was that due to the warm climate, people were more relaxed and did not face the realities of harsh environments like the cold that the northern East Asians face. Additionally, the economic and social dominance of the ethnic Chinese and Indians in Southeast Asia created this idea that the native Southeast Asians were no match to the East and South Asians. Casually racist remarks were made regularly during this time period and this racial hierarchy also played a role in creating stereotypes associated with particular groups in Southeast Asia that continue to persist today.
@@user-jt3dw6vv4x get more money bro = higher status
@@bunnystrasse Yep you're right, that's basically what it is
@@user-jt3dw6vv4x Mahathir Mohamad? So you mean Malays have a concept of some kind of social hierarchy and racial hierarchy like East Asians? I doubt your statement, I'm not Malay but my ethnicity is still related to Malay, my culture is egalitarian, we don't have social hierarchy, let alone racial hierarchy, I think Malay is the same
@@anomalianomali5080 Yes it was Mahathir Mohamad but this isn't a concept that exists in Malay culture/society. It's just an archaic racial hierarchy that was propagated in modern Malaysia through discussions during the late 20th century to explain the reason for why Malaysians of Chinese and Indian (particularly Chinese) descent were outperforming Malays (the same thing was discussed in Singapore, where Chinese and Indians also outperformed the Malays at a higher rate). It's a racist concept and I'm not surprised that Mahathir supported such a belief. The man seemed to grapple with self hatred at times.
I'm Indonesian but I mostly grew up watching american shows/movies and everytime they just even mention the word "Indonesia" or something I would be so shocked and surprised idk why
I had a Vietnamese gf and her parents were the most racists Asians ive ever encountered xD
First time I’ve heard about you. I’m Filipino, Spanish, Micronesian, German, Irish, Portuguese, French Canadian. 5’5” Male (Filipino height) w/ Caucasian skin tone. I’m Mestiso that grew up with Filipino culture living most of my life on mainland USA. 1st generation Filipino/ American.
Many people don’t understand the differences of other Asian cultures unfortunately but I tried to educate as much as possible. A lot of discrimination and racism at times but I tried educating friends so they can understand different Asian differences. We aren’t all the same as many people think.
I’ve been living in Oahu, HI for the past 8 years and it’s been the best thing I’ve ever done. Primarily because I’m just like everyone else where many people are Asian/ Pacific Islander mixed. Just another Hapa or Mestiso boy where all the cultures meld together. Point of my story is: Beautiful Hawai’i nei is the best place to be if your Asian or Pacific Islander and/or mixed in anyway
This was very educational and enlightening all at the same time.
When did the term "Asian" start becoming commonly used? How did it start? 30-40 years ago, it was Oriental, South Asian, middle eastern etc. Generic term "Asian" was rarely used.
Blame the yanks.
Actually, I knew about this hierarchy within the Asian community---we have the same thing among Afro-Americans, Afro-Carribean-Americans, and Africans.
The common Asians I've seen in media are Chinese, Japanese, S Koreans, and Indians. There's really not that much representation for other races but perhaps this is just the start since I can see them paving the wave for others. One can hope right! Also, I did not know you have Filipino in you, very cool!
Naw the world really needs to understand that “Asian” isn’t just China, Japan and Korea. There are brown skinned Asians and dark skinned Asians. We are not all the same and we are not all represented.
When people think of any sort of Asian representation they just think about East Asians, and that’s harmful to everyone else because it reinforces the narrative that we’re all the same when really Asia is a massive continent filled with so many diverse countries, cultures and ethnic groups. Even East Asian people are ignorant to this, because they think that any sort of representation should revolve around them.
It’s a lot of classism, racism and colorism at work.
Isn't it the same about white people and blacks and latinx? Most people talking in terms of race or skin colour, really only think about one specific group
Nice! People should be aware that there are 5 regions in Asia, also America is not just U.S.A. People in NA and SA are also Americans but not all of them are US Citizens, of course.
@@ecophile yes, definitely with latinx people as well. but right now we're talking about the culture and perspectives within the asian community specifically, in first world predominantly white countries where asian people are minorities as well as respective asian countries.
@@ecophile If you are going to defend latinos, don’t use a word that offends us, latinx doesn’t exist.
@@kevinroyceho It comes with being the minority, and is not a US thing only. Is human nature to do those things.
Also, as a latino, don’t you use latinx again, is a made up word that is actually offensive to our culture.
I was just as confused at 2:53 with my non-verbal reaction...of "what?" too LOL