My Main Issue With Calvinism | feat. John Piper & John MacArthur
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- Jordan Hatfield explains what he thinks is one of the... if not THE... main issue in Calvinist theology. Featuring clips from pastor John Piper ( @desiringGod ) and John MacArthur (@gracetoyou).
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It’s amazing how many traditional teachers there are out in the world. It is such a refreshing new world once I traveled out of reformed (Calvinism) teaching. Praise God!
Thank you for your much needed ministry.
I’m new to the specifics of Calvinist doctrine. I can not believe I am 70 years old and have not known this. It certainly clears up some serious confusion I have experienced listening to some of the well known preachers.
The main problem I have with Calvinist theology is their objection to free will. If God is responsible for all the evil in the world He is not good. On the other hand,,, if God created this universe and established laws that govern his creation then we as part of His Creation can experience His Justice. He would not break laws He has established (that would not be good) This Creator of ALL makes more sense. Because God IS Justice he keeps these laws and holds them together by His Power.
I’m shocked that seemingly educated intelligent men actually believe the Calvinist Doctrine. From all evidence we have of God and from all experience we have of God and from all written inspired text we have of God we find He is Loving, Merciful, Gracious,Kind and Good etc etc etc.
The Calvinist God is frighteningly similar to the god of Islam.
Agree. It has a lot of similarities with Islam because both originate from the father of lies
True. We have free will, but defending free will should not take the place of simply arguing that free will with scripture. They will argue with similes not scripture. Calvinists superimpose their doctrine onto scripture even to the point of saying, That's what it says, but that's not what it means.
@@bstein9500 it must be frustrating trying to talk theology with a Calvinist and seem like a stalemate. It also feels like they cop out when presented with scripture that differs from what they believe. I have never discussed anything with a Calvinist in my life. I have been a Christian since January 18 1970. I feel like I have been living under a rock or something. How have I not known about this???
I have been more interested in Islam since 9:11 so my energy has been in that arena.
It seems to me that most of scripture is screaming free will. Old and New Testament. It seems as though Calvinist cherry pick verses and screw the text around to fit their ideology. This is so interesting to me and helps me understand why I sometimes doubt that I got “saved right” when I have listened to these preachers. It has actually paralyzed me at times in my spiritual life. I would try to work up sorrow but when you have overwhelming fear you can feel nothing else. I’m so happy that my salvation is not based on some feeling I can muster up.
I actually called MacArthur during a dark time of doubt. I left a message asking for someone to call me back about salvation. I’m still waiting.
Thanks ti channels like this I am free of that overwhelming fear. I’m so thankful for these ministries. I was raised IFB so I’ve already been beat up spiritually lol. It isn’t Jesus fault. I love Him and I just keep pushing in to Him.
I have been binge watching EVERYTHING about Calvinist.
I don’t know you but thank you for being on the frontline in this battle. ✝️🇺🇸
@@drittenberry1 Love you brother. I'll see you there when the time comes. Keep learning. I'm insatiable with the word right now. So much chaos in the world I think we're close to his return for us.
@@bstein9500 I’m praying for you too. No matter what happens in your life just keep pushing into Jesus. Even if the stars fall from the sky choose to trust Him. Love free will. I use it every single day and with my will I choose Him no matter how dark the night.
Your logical approach to the gospel is refreshing and it upholds the centrality ofJesus Christ. which fundamentally is the good news of thr gospel.
"He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together" 🙏
God chose us "in Him."
Not "to be in Him."
There's a big difference.
That's one thing Calvinism doesn't get.
The other is that Sovereignty does not mean "Determinism." It means the Kingly Authority and power to do as you please.
"Chose" is past tense. When did God choose? Before the foundation of the world.
"Us" is the direct object.
To or for what did God choose us? That we should be holy and without blame before Him in love.
How are we holy and without blame? In Him.
God chose us to be holy and blameless. At a minimum, this sounds like justification.
To be in Christ is to be justified.
When did God choose us to be justified? Before the foundation of the world.
When are we justified in Christ? When we believe in Jesus (Romans 4 & 5; John 3:16).
But we must recognize that God chose us before the foundation of the world.
When did God choose Paul to be holy and blameless? Before the foundation of the world.
When was Paul holy and blameless? When he believed in Jesus.
When did God choose the saints at Ephesus to be holy and blameless? Before the foundation of the world.
When were the saints at Ephesus holy and blameless? When they believed in Jesus.
When did God choose the faithful in Christ to be holy and blameless? Before the foundation of the world.
When were the faithful in Christ holy and blameless? When they believed in Jesus.
When did God choose me to be holy and blameless? Before the foundation of the world.
When was I holy and blameless? When I believed in Jesus.
God's plan for Paul was made before the foundation of the world when God chose Paul to be holy and blameless. It's not saying that Paul has been holy and blameless since the foundation of the world, but before the foundation of the world, God chose Paul, and God chose the saints at Ephesus, and God chose the faithful in Christ, and God chose me, and God chose you, if you believe in Christ.
@@TheMaineSurveyorfalse. It's nit "us" in an unqualified state. It's us "in him".
You're directly ignoring the repeated vital detail of wgat this qualification entails. We weren't in him before the foundation of the world. The only eternal pre-incarnate party here is Christ. All of the benefits and traits discussed in the chapter aren't arbitrary rewards for belief, they're naturally aspects of CHRIST because of his divinity. When we're "in him" we obtain these because we're in him. It's a causal relationship that's perfectly logical.
X has Y benefits. I get in X, now I hsve Y benefits.
X has these from before creation... I'm new to X, but by way of my being in X I too have these from before the foundation because X did... and in in X, so I do too.
It's not I (unqualified) that have them. It's I IN HIM (qualified) that has had them just as long as X did. Unqualified I have nothing and never had it, and never will.
Read how "in Abraham" is used of Aaron in Hebrews. It's there too. Aaron is credited with tithing to Melchizedek... not personally. He wasn't around then, but "in Abraham" he was. This is an invalid method of establishing guilt, but it's a perfectly valid way to establish corporate identity and benefits on those who voluntarily identify with that which they're in.
@@ravissary79 I didn’t ignore “in Him”. Read my response again.
They also don't know what All, Every, World and Whosoever mean
@@naturematt4340 If we find the phrase "all the world" in Scripture, should we conclude that it literally means every part of the world, without exception? Or, should we look at the context that "all" has been used in?
For example, Luke 2:1 (NKJV)
_And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered._
It says "all the world", so should we conclude that the people living in Australia, South America, Hawaii, and Japan were included? Should we conclude that all humpback whales were included? All lobsters? All poplar trees? Was every rock registered?
None of us would conclude that Luke is telling us that all individuals and all things in all parts of the world were included in Caesar Augustus' decree. We know there is a context, that "all the world" is limited to the regions under Roman control. The context is given in the same sentence by the name Caesar Augustus. "All" and "world" are limited by the confines of the context of Luke 2:1.
Jordan, this really resonated with me. I had studied and rejected Calvinism years ago, but was 'persuaded' that Reformed Theology, or Compatibilism was something different, and became an active participant in a newly formed Reformed Presbyterian church, remaining for over a decade.
The pastor studiously avoided using any of the Calvinist buzzwords for that entire time, and it was only after having been there for 13 years that I began to hear Calvinistic concepts presented from the pulpit. That, along with a long list of red flags, started my journey out the door - not easy, as my husband was an elder and had become fully indoctrinated (I would say brainwashed).
One Sunday after church people were having a discussion with the pastor, and eventually only he and I were left. He said a lot of things that really surprised me, but suddenly, out of the blue, my spirit was impressed with the thought that 'If Calvinism were true, Christ and His great work became insignificant at best, and likely even unnecessary.' I can only say that this was an impression from the Spirit of God, as it was not at all related to anything that was said. It was just as if all of the things that had been troubling me came to a head, and I realized the central issue was Christological. I have many other concerns as well, but your presentation reminded me of this decisive moment.
What was the pastor’s response to that? And/Or your husband’s? Do you still go there?
Calvinism in a nutshell.
Satan wants everyone, But God doesn't.
Fee will = ignorance
Well said Dronelocations
@@aletheia8054who mentioned free will ?
What’s wrong with you ?
Did you not understand the post ?
Where was free will mentioned ?
Reprobate.
@@brendaleehayter8464 I mentioned it
You don’t believe in free will?
@user-ik4nd4zd5h no
Yup! Calvanists seem to say that someone needs to be “pre-saved” before they get saved. Regeneration proceeding faith makes no sense. They seem to completely reject that these key verses in the Gospel of John:
“In him was life; and the life was the light of men... That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.” (John 1:4 & 9)
It's more absurd than even that.
The Calvinist doesn't believe that Salvation is even a thing.
If God Predetermined in eternity past that someone would become a believer were they ever in any danger of damnation?
How does one one get saved if there was never a threat to be saved from?
@@ericfisher1360 Right. Belief or faith is a mere formality in Calvinism. Heck, Christ seems to be a mere formality really.
Yeah Jesus is not really necessary in Calvinism. Bizarre and quite harmful theology that Calvinists have.
Good points. If calvinism were true, in what sense is an elect person ever ‘without hope’? They have nothing but hope.
An elect person is not without hope. They come to recognize that they are without hope… EXCEPT IN CHRIST… who they recognize is their hope.
@brentonstanfield5198 Paul is writing to believers in Ephesians 2:12-13 “remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.” It plainly says believers are without hope before they are in Christ.
Yes exactly. The elect have never been without hope or without God and separated from Christ in any meaningful sense.
@@MoBorbonyea because they were Gentiles and because of Christ He brought both Jew and Gentile to share an inheritance. This is not what is understood Paul talks about the mystery of the gospel should probably read the rest of Ephesians to understand the whole letter.
@@MoBorbon - This isn't that complicated:
(1) IN ETERNITY, before creation, God has a plan to save a people in Christ Jesus. He knows who He is going to save. This knowledge doesn't change.
(2) IN TIME, when we are yet separated from Christ, we have no hope APART FROM HIM.
(3) IN TIME, when we are connected to Christ, we come to see Christ as our hope and recognize that this was God's plan from before the ages IN ETERNITY.
Note this, (1) is true so long as you believe God knew EXACTLY who would save from before He created. It is not a distinctive feature of Calvinism or dependent on how one is going to get into Christ. Even if we get into Christ by OUR FAITH that God foresees, He has known from ALL ETERNITY that we would be saved and thus always had hope. The only way around it is to assume that God didn't know from eternity.
Your content is well researched and presented ,
Be encouraged and keep up the good work, it’s certainly a blessing.
Wow!! This was amazing! Thank you, brother. Your work is not in vain! It is helping so many in the Body of Christ and proclaims the beautiful Gospel, which is the power of God unto salvation!
Please don’t get discouraged in what you’re doing!! I appreciate and can tell that you put time and sweat into all your videos. It definitely shows! It helps so much and allows me to feel confident when sharing well done videos with friends who are struggling with Calvinism right now!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!
He chose us before the foundation of the to be in him then sin entered the world just something to think about
@@nathanbratton5613 Hi Nathan! thanks for your comment and the kind attitude in which you posted.
I think you might be referring to Ephesians chapter 1? I do apologize and please let me know if I am assuming incorrectly.
You're saying the verse says God chose us TO BE in Him. No, the verse does not say that. The verse tells us who is chosen and for what. The verse says, rather, that God chose us in Christ TO BE holy and blameless... it tells us a group of people (us in Christ) who were chosen FOR something (a list of wonderful spiritual blessing listed here in the chapter)
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, THAT we would be holy and blameless before Him.
Ephesians 1:3-4
Blessings, brother. In love, your sister in Christ.
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1 Timothy 2:3-4 NKJV - For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
He desires that all are saves, so it doesn't make sense that He chose some for salvation and not others, it contradicts what God has clearly stated about His desires and plan of salvation. We'll, that's how I see it anyway.
@@Apollos2.2the Calvinist think "all" means both Jew and Gentile...who are among God's elect. They don't believe it really means ALL
In fact they don't believe the plain meaning of any scripture, but impose TULIP over all scripture
Very good insight of Soteriology ,brother! Keep doing the good work!
Absolutely excellent and the same conclusion I have come to after years of study. In an effort to give God the glory for absolutely everything Calvinists have moved away from a Christ-centered theology. Everything we have is given in Him and we have nothing while outside of Him (not even being chosen).
Amen we need more and more people speaking the truth of salvation against the twisting of scriptures through Calvinism. Calvinism has seeped into our culture for far to long.
I just want to say thank you brother. Your ministry has been used by the Lord to equip me for my ministry. You do excellent work. To Jesus Christ be the glory. God bless yall
That’s great to hear. Thank you for the encouragement!
He literally taught zero doctrine here. How in the world can that prepare you for any ministry whatsoever?
@@ManassehJones I didn't say this video. If you watch some of his other longer ones you'll understand. God bless
@@GreatLightStudios Read the recent book "The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism" by Ken Wilson, if you want to understand the original source of the doctrine.
Good job noting the "in Him" passages, and how many there are! Also note well "you" is often plural! That suggests this in Christ status with all its blessings and divine (unmerited) favor is corporate, for the Church. So the bride of Christ is holy and blameless, and yes even the individual can claim that positional status, but none of us can claim it in any meaningfully personal way outside the realm of the corporate body.
So a sound ecclesiology and pneumatology precedes a sound soteriology, just as Acts precedes Romans.
Blessings of continued revelation, joy, peace, mercy, good fruits and power in the Gospel to you and your sphere of godly influence:
"Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved, you and your house."
Hi. New subscriber from Canada. Just came across you video. So good. My brother stands on Ephesians 1 : 4 . As a Calvinistic thing. So I said . Then its regeneration first then faith ? He gets frustrated when I bring up John Calvin. I’ve asked him to read Ephesians 1 : 13. No comment as yet. Again thank you. You nailed it.
For a short time listening to you, I am encourage all the more of the word of truth. Praise God for you! God bless you more!
Wow!
This info was so eye opening!
It makes so much sense!
I’ve never thought of these concepts in the ways that you articulated them.
Thank you so much!
God bless you brother!
I really appreciate your respectful tone and genuineness in your criticism. I think people from all views could benefit from this
Good job Sir
Thank you from Denver NC
My thoughts and sentinents as well.
It appears some Calvinists are making predestination, and not jesus, the primary and only reason we can have salvation.
And then they limit the atonement of jesus christ, saying it's only for the predestination elect chosn few, not the grace through faith in jesus available to all whosoever of john 3:16 which becomes...
So whosoever all anyone of the gospel actually becomes a disclaimer of you must be a predestined elect to have salvation, Jesus is no where there, until later and that belief in jesus is not your responsibility it will ve automatic, and we have no way to know or tell this is good news or bad news.
basically they say you will automatcally believe and be saved and continue to the end.
If you fall away detransition deconvert than instead of trying to restore you pray for you before you die, they just say you were never elect or saved...as a fact of the matter.
Something only jesus can and will know and judge is,our belief in him and the heart for salvation on that final day
The real good news is so much more clear and simply stated in scripture.
Jihn 3:16 and elsewhere throughout the holy scriptures.
No need to overthink or even create a systematic or ir doctrine for it as it is the good news for all sinners not just predestined elect sinners which would make God a respecter of persons in regards to to salvation..
Thank you for all your helpful videos. I’m getting a better understanding about the errors in Calvinism.
Such a great video! They really need to come up with something other than appeal to mystery. Still looking forward to your future videos on what it means to be in Christ; in union with Christ.
This is something I've never understood about Calvinism. If one is regenerated (born again) prior to believing, then why do they even need Jesus? Jesus says, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3) So, if one is born again prior to belief in Christ then he can see the kingdom of God. "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again'. (John 3:5,6). Regeneration means new birth or born again. According to what Jesus says, if you have in fact been born again then you can enter and see the kingdom of God. So, if Calvinism states that regeneration precedes "faith" or "belief", then why do they need to believe in order to enter or see the kingdom of God? All one needs to do is be born again and they will enter the kingdom of heaven if Calvinism is true.
I was in a calvinist church when I moved to a different state, not knowing what they believed. I was looking for a good church. But one thing I heard was very disturbing one of the leaders said " receive was a cheap word"😯
Wow, amazing points! I think a documentary is a great idea. I was saved while watching the american gospel (by hearing the gosoel preached in the documentry) naturally i started following the reformed teachers in the documentry and just took on the calvanist teachings because i saw them more in scripture, then the prosperity gospel crap i came out of.
Seeing now that i might have been decieved not once but twice is honestly super stressful. A documentry would be so helpful. I dont even know where to start.
The number one reason I'm not calvinist, is because it is not biblical, there is not a single calvinist distinctive in all of scripture.
@@HaroldZwingley exactly why I am not one, because I have read it and studied it
@daviddriedger3244 Of course it is biblical. You have to be blind not to see that.
@@TheBereanVoice there is not a single calvinist distinctive in Scripture
@@daviddriedger3244 I would be happy to discuss any passage or passages you would like to discuss.
@@TheBereanVoice give me your number one verse that proves Calvinism.
And then explain why
Even human beings do not convict a person if they are found to be incapable of understanding what they have done. To have a holy God convict humans who He cursed with "total inability" of not doing something they couldn't possibly do (repent), makes no sense when you read about His character throughout the Bible. And for the Calvinists who immediately think "You are putting your sense of fairness on God" we can read up on Abraham's discussion with God about the people in Sodom. Abraham knew it wasn't "fair" to wipe out righteous with unrighteous. God agreed and promised not to. I think humans do have a sense of right and wrong. God didn't reply "Be quiet, Abraham, you have no idea what fair is!" but He patiently replied He would not unfairly wipe out righteous people in the wicked city.
R. C. Sproul "explained" that the writers of that passage about Abraham were merely relating how God would speak if He were human. In other words, he was only pretending to listen to Abraham's arguments.
This is good and much needed
Thank you so much for these videos.
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!
Amen and Amen.
AWESOME!
Calvinists confuse antitheticals with mystery.
You mean WE get to choose how WE are conformed? Or we get to choose our salvation? Sanctification?
Justification?
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I'm sorry but I have having difficulty finding the verse or verses that state that regeneration is a blessing we receive because we have been united to Christ. I see that Christ has been made to us the wisdom of God, righteousness, sanctification and redemption, but I don't see anything about regeneration being the result of union with Christ.
He loves word salad...just tossing words around...
FANTASTIC video!!!
100% agree and I say something similar in my masters thesis. I can tell you more over email.
Suggestion: I would break these two related issues apart for argument's sake. It would be too easy for someone like a Dr. White to confuse matters greatly if he was to deal with these issues. I think the stronger argument is the one about being regenerated before you have life (i.e., Christ). Just my humble opinion. The first half of the video was a bit confusing, but the issue of life before salvation/Christ was easier to conceptualize and latch on to. Thanks for the great video!
You are right. They don't know what they are saying. And, the weirdest thing to me is that they seem prideful that they don't know what they are saying! It's like ignorance is their proof they are "chosen." It's like, "oh, I must be chosen because I don't have the answers and I don't question them." Ignorance is bliss to Calvinism.
What irritates me is how many Calvinists will basically assume or presume that if you're not a calvinist, then you may not even be saved. You may not even know Jesus and you may have had a false conversion. 😑 I'm tired of calvanists constantly trying to push their point of view i really am. How about, "Jesus loves you". ??
I have come to conclusion that God doesnt choose some people to be saved then decide to stop others from coming. If God's desire is that no one should perish then how can he go ahead and choose some and then reject others? And then how would he be good and just if he goes ahead and condemns to hell those he didnt enable or elect to be his children? The problem is people have made Romans to be the central gospel instead of looking at the bible as a whole. God is all knowing which means he knows who who will make it to the end but God doesnt delight in some people coming to him and others being condemned and he shows no partiality
Is the “life” you are asking about the same as “being Born from above”? Could it be the opposite of being “dead in your sin”? God still does all the work. He allows us to pass from untrusting Him to trusting Him the same way one might go from being dead (unable) to being alive (able). God gets to do whatever he wants! He’s God! 🥰
Christ is totally still at the center for the Calvinist! 🥰
Glorifying Him and enjoying Him forever is an awesome way to live!
I love to see what’s on my “page” each day knowing He is The perfect author! Such an adventure!
In Ephesians 1 Paul speaks first about himself as one of the apostles chosen by Christ before the foundation of the world to be the ones who would first believe in Christ (the US). He doesn't get to the YOU until v13. It is to the apostles that Christ revealed the mystery of His will. It was the apostles to whom He abounded in wisdom and prudence by whom He would gather together the things in heaven and earth thru the preaching of the gospel. If you consider that many of the saints were questioning Paul's credentials, it might make more sense as to what his initial introduction was about.
It’s a Jesus might have died for you gospel 😂😂😂
Calvinism destroyed 23 years of my life.
The lie of free will took up 40 years of mine.
How long have you been deceived by "another gospel?" @@aletheia8054
@@aletheia8054😂 and God determined for you to be confused.
Then God must have determined for you to be deceived. Your doctrine will not save you. @@DelicueMusic
@@DelicueMusic funny
10:23 Getting reconciled to God outside of christ? Hmmmmm idk about that 1.
Calvinists are sent by God, to command the majority of mankind to do the very thing they themselves could not do without God's 'gift of faith', to "Repent & believe the gospel".
Without God's "gift of faith", ALL Calvinists stand condemend.
In other words, the majority of mankind are condemned NOT for unbelief, but for not having God's "gift of faith" assigned to them.
The Word is and Gospel is given by God, so we may know that the way to salvation is narrow and that Few will find it. Matthew 7:13-14 NKJV
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. It is the very thing mankind command to do they themselves could not do without God's 'gift of faith', to "Repent & believe the gospel". Without God's "gift of faith", ALL mankind stand condemned.
In other words, the majority of mankind are condemned for unbelief, not having God's faith given to them, but all are still held responsible.
Other than the result of men’s refusal. Calvin as you can see and put the responsibility by men.
THIS IS HOW CALVIN PREACHED THE GOSPEL (Calvin's Wisdom p119-120)
He calls all men to himself, without a single exception, and gives Christ to all, that we may be illumined by him. When we pray, we ought, according to the rule of charity, to include all. God invites all indiscriminately to salvation through the Gospel, BUT THE INGRATITUDE OF THE WORLD IS THE REASON why this grace, which is equally offered to all, is enjoyed by few.
Ephesians 1:3-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will.
Ephesians 1:11-12 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory.
@MariusVanWoerden
In Calvinism, God purposely creates the majority of mankind, involuntarily dead & totally depraved in their mothers womb.
This is your doctrine of Total Depravity. Calvinists Loraine Boettner writes, "....man “is utterly indisposed, disabled, and MADE opposite to all good, and WHOLLY inclined to ALL EVIL.”
And who "MADE" man "WHOLLY inclined to ALL EVIL" from the womb? GOD.
Or does man voluntarily gnit himself together dead in his mothers womb? No, this is the work of God.
John Calvin: “First, the eternal predestination of God, by which before the fall of Adam He decreed what should take place concerning the whole human race and every individual, was fixed and determined.” (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.121)
The majority of mankind are purposely created dead in the womb, "for the good pleasure of His will to glorify Himself..."
John Calvin: “For Paul teaches that the race of Abraham consisted of both elect and reprobate. Further, he declares in general that there come from the human race vessels of wrath and vessels of mercy for the manifestation of the glory of God.” (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.160)
John Calvin: “God had no doubt decreed before the foundation of the world what He would do with every one of us and had assigned to everyone by His secret counsel his part in life.” (Calvin’s New Testament Commentaries: Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians, p.20)
The majority of mankind are condemned from the womb for rejecting a gospel that was NEVER intended for their salvation to begin with (Limited Atonement), since most NEVER had propitiation for sin.
Everyone burning in hell right now, rejected a gospel that was NEVER intended for their salvation. God didn't fail in saving them, because God NEVER had any intention of saving them with any gospel.
Calvinists Jonathan Gibson writes, "...the death of Christ was INTENDED to win the salvation of God’s people ALONE."
(Monergism.com. Limited Atonement article. April 2020)
This is not an emotional rejection of Calvinism, but a rational, logical & most importantly of them all, Biblical.
Before anyone even comes into existence, God has ALREADY pre-determined their eternal destination "outside any human will or exertion".
John Calvin: “…the reason why God elects some and rejects others is to be found in His purpose alone. … BEFORE MEN ARE BORN their lot is assigned to each of them by the secret will of God. … the salvation or the destruction of men depends on His free election.” (Calvin’s New Testament Commentaries: Romans and Thessalonians, p.203.)
The God of truth, does not command sinners to believe a lie.
In Calvinism, God most certainly does.
To get "in Christ" we are "baptized into Christ" - I realize that is controversial for some, but how we get in Christ is important.
If God is determining everything, no one understands His character unless He has determined them to. This leads to a host of theological problems not the least of which is why God determined that the majority of His own children believe lies about Himself. Determinism is a very problematic philosophy.
Good explanation. The choosing and blessings are in Christ. Also, the "and you also" verses are emphasizing that the gentiles are included. Its stated over and over. Additionally, Rom. 5:8 states "if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of His." They are not His elect, not His chosen, not His child. Nothing. No one is until they are in Christ.
My main issue with Calvinism is it makes God out to be an evil monster which is most certainly is NOT
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And how do you imagine that Calvinism makes God out to be an evil monster?
Here is the problem with the Calvinistic picture of being " Chosen before the foundation of the world".
Ephesians 2 says we are BORN SEPARATED FROM CHRIST!. So...he had us, lost us and then gets us again?
Calvinist should answer me first that if God knew that Cain is of the evil one, then why God is asking Cain to rule over sin.
If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary to you, but you must rule over it.”
- Genesis 4:7
Jordan, the "in him" in Ephesians 1:4 does not mean that we are already united with Christ before we are predestined to be with God(meaning to be saved)
What is the point of being predestined if you are already united with Christ? If you are in Christ or United with Christ you have already reached your predestiny because you are already saved..
The "in him" in Ephesians 4 should be "through him" which means that we are predestined to be with God through Christ.. Did not Jesus said: "No man can come to the Father but through me." ? Other bible translation said: "through him" like God's Word Trsnslation and Lamsa bible...
I think he misunderstands the difference between what God decrees and eternity and what he reveals within temporal existence. He creates a false dichotomy between God choosing the elect to be in Christ and the elect being blessed in Christ.
Using your lamp analogy on at about 19:00, why isn’t the proper analogy this:
A man (God) plugs the lamp (us) into the outlet (Christ). The lamp doesn’t do that. Once plugged into the outlet (Christ), electricity (Spirit) flows into the lamp (us). The lamp now has electricity (Spirit producing faith within). To prove electricity (Spirit) is now in the lamp (us), the man (God) then flips the switch of the lamp so that the light comes on (good works seen by men confirming the Spirit within, eg profession of faith, baptism, loving neighbor, etc…) confirming that the lamp (us) is now connected to the outlet (Christ).
My main issue with Calvinism, is an issue I apparently have with most every major "brand" of Christianity. The failure to realize God is free.
Which is to say He is not bound by some magic-crystal-ball sort of visions by means of which He knows everything that will ever happen, as if He was a master magician, sorcerer or oracle etc., and not an actual God who does as He pleases at all times, period. Such that there cannot be a "fixed" future independent of what He decides to do at any given moment.
In short, you can't have it both ways. Either He is truly free, which means there is no set future (beyond what He is personally determined to make come to pass), or He is bound by what He can "see" is going to happen whether He wants it to or not.
The evidence that He is not bound by a cast in stone, so to speak, "future", is blatantly obvious to me, in various parts of the Book. Not just in a multitude of "If you do this, I will do that" sort of statements He makes throughout, but in some cases, He actually gives an account of Him "changing the future" forever. The most obvious, I feel, is when He decided to wipe out virtually all humans (and other land critters), and literally said "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."
(If stoning was still in fashion, I figure I'd soon be put about six feet under (stones ; ) about now, for daring to take Him as HIs word ; )
Another, is when He us gives a "blow by blow" account of Him changing the future forever, in 2nd Kings 20;
"In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And the prophet Isaiah the son of Amoz came to him, and said unto him, Thus saith the Lord, Set thine house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live.
Then he turned his face to the wall, and prayed unto the Lord, saying,
I beseech thee, O Lord, remember now how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore.
And it came to pass, afore Isaiah was gone out into the middle court, that the word of the Lord came to him, saying,
Turn again, and tell Hezekiah the captain of my people, Thus saith the Lord, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee: on the third day thou shalt go up unto the house of the Lord.
And I will add unto thy days fifteen years; and I will deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria; and I will defend this city for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake."
That's a King, not some hermit, and he was obviously going to be interacting with all sorts of people during those fifteen years. All their futures would be affected, and the futures of all they had meaningful interactions with, and so on . . till this very comment you're reading, and beyond. (And, this "futures changing" event was recounted a second time in Isaiah 38.) I don't "get" how otherwise intelligent people fail to grasp the significance of such accounts being in the Book, in terms of the whole magic-crystal-ball He sees THE FUTURE in, concept. I suggest that BECAUSE He is God, there is no such THE FUTURE to see.
Every time He acts, things really change, in the real world, which is to say His world. We can dream up all sorts of imaginary "fixed" worlds, but that one simply can't be, if that Book is Legit, it seems to me.
(And there's more where that came from, 'cause I read the whole Book ; )
You don't seem to understand that when Jesus and John speak or write about believing that one might have eternal life, they are referring to life as over against condemnation or perishing. Consider John 3:16 and 5:24 as examples. It was not their intention to provide an ordo salutis. Additionally, you seem to ignore the fact that calling, regeneration, union with Christ occur simultaneously. Consequently, no one is spiritually alive apart from existential union with Christ, but all of that occurs as a result of divine activity, not as a result of human activity or decision.
What you seem to ignore is that believers are united to Christ, not by their own doing but because God has called them into the fellowship [union] of His Son [1 Cor 1:9]. It is OF HIM [God] that believers are in union with Christ [1 Cor. 1:30].
But I thought the Calvinists believe regeneration is when the Holy Spirit enters you. So don't they believe regeneration is when you are unconditionally taken over by the Holy Spirit and then because of this, you believe and are united with Christ? I think the Holy Spirit is the agent of regeneration to Calvinists, right?
Thanks for diving deep into this critical issue. It was informative and provides another core issue (inconsistency) with the Calvinistic belief system.
However, is this really the “main issue” that compels you to contend with Calvinism? For me, it’s more of the overall distortion of the nature and character of God. I am appalled by how Calvinist’s portrait God. You mentioned in your video “Calvinism is Harmful” (which needs a part 2 with more specific examples of how it is harmful) that their view paints God “as a bit of a monster” referencing your discussion of a prominent Calvinist who said God is the author of evil. If God is the author of evil, He is the monster.
I want to cite another way in which Calvinism impugns the goodness of God. To steal terminology from Leighton Flowers, God is not “recognizably good” if you believe God is the author of evil and He is creating men and women (reprobates) for destruction with no chance of heaven.
Yes, Calvinism is harmful and needs to be vigorously exposed as it is causing damage to believers and non-believers. Borrowing from Kevin of BTF, “If you Don’t Vehemently Oppose Calvinism, then You Don’t Understand the Gospel.” It’s not Good News to everyone according to Calvinists. What tragic blasphemy, please please keep proclaiming the truth…
Thanks for this. I agree that this isn’t necessarily the “main issue” with Calvinism. This is really quite subjective for each person I think, and it certainly is for me. I call it my main issue because these issues with Christology in Calvinism were initially what drove me to have such a passion to talk about it. And so that’s why I call it MY main issue. I understand that other non-Calvinists are more concerned with other issues, but this particular one has really grabbed my attention.
I like your idea of doing a part 2 to the Why Calvinism Is Harmful video I made. I’ll keep that in mind!
I would really like to see you thoughts and specific examples of how Calvinism is harmful. There is so much indifference and ignorance about the negative impact of their preaching...thanks @@GreatLightStudios
Thanks for a good analysis, and for beginning the discussion were all truth begins, namely, with the Lord Jesus Christ. The first direct Biblical mention of the word "elect" is found in Isaiah 42:1, which refers not to us, but to the Lord Jesus Himself. He is THE Elect, chosen by the Father because of the perfection of His merits as the Son of God, and by His perfect earthly lifetime. All who believe enter into His election by freely receiving God's grace by faith - "chosen in Him." As you suggest, we are elect because and only because we are in THE Elect. All doctrine begins with Lord Jesus including the doctrine of election. We will never know the truth about any doctrine if you do not begin with Him. Thanks again for an excellent affirmation of this.
My whole problem with the Calvinist philosophy is determinism.
I'm not against Calvinist but MacArthur and Piper really do the tribe no favors. SMH
Regeneration to the best of my understanding is an ongoing process producing diffrent results in the elects life through time.
It is the same Holy Spirit working in us leading us and drawing us to salvific faith being a function opposite to the spirit that is at work withn the children of disobedience referred to at least in part as the "mystery of iniquity."
Regeneration begins before faith and leads to faith. The Holy Spirit convict the world of sin, and there is a general distribution of that conviction that keeps men from being as evil as they truly are until the Hly Spirit be taken away and then there is a specific conviction that awakens an unbeliever unto salvific faith.
You must be born again. Does a believer simply come forth in an instant? Is there not a type of utero of sowing into watering on until Gd gives the increase? And as laborers and colaborers with God do these things not work in tandem until Christ is finally believed in?
Regeneration includes the aha moment whe the bulb flickers on as well as everything thatthe spirit orchestrates before the aha moment as well as after the aha moment even up until the regeneration of all things being at least the new heavens and earth wherein dwells righteousness.
Reeneration is seperate from the Holy Spirit only in that regeneration is the work of the Holy Spirit, but truth be told regeneation and the Holy Spirit are one and he same because apart from the Hly Spirit there is NO regeneration.
NO ONE can say that JESUS is LORD BUT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. So how does one say that Jesus is Lord? By the Spirit that enables them to do so. So it seems only logical to conclude then that the Holy Spirit must have been present BEFORE the confession of faith because the Holy Spirit is required to make a confession of faith in the first place. Herein regeneration BEGINS and is evidently NOT complete bfore faith because regeneration by the Spirit leads on to say Jesus is Lord by that same Spirit
When does a calvinist know if they're saved?
It's the same for everyone. When you believe in Christ, you have eternal life. See John 3:16
@@TheMaineSurveyor the calvinist has to persevere to the end to know correct?
@@thomasharp3246 Those who God justifies, He sanctifies and will glorify. We don't sanctify ourselves. God sanctifies us.
"He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ." Philippians 1:6
@@TheMaineSurveyor are you a calvinist?
@@thomasharp3246 It's more accurate to say that I agree with what the writers of the Canons of Dort wrote about redemption in that document.
John 17:3 says it means everlasting life to come to know God and Christ. That means you don't have everlasting life until after you come to know them. However, Calvinism teaches that the chosen have everlasting life from the founding of the world which is before they heard anything about God or Christ. This teaching is clearly contrary to that scripture.
Calvinism relegates Christ to a frivolous redundancy…..that seems to make it patently false to me.
You need to consider 2 Tim. 1:9 where Paul writes about God giving US [believers] grace before the world began. It should be clear that He did not give Grace to the Son before the world began since grace [the unmerited favor of God shown to those who merited His wrath] was unnecessary for Him. It was to believers that He gave grace as He contemplated us in union with Christ according to His predestined purpose. Election was an act of His grace.
It’s interesting that you left out the part where it specifies that God gave us Christ IN CHRIST before time began. If you try to discern texts like this without an appropriate understanding of what Union with Christ is, then you will miss the point.
It says grace, not election. If you're going to presume and assume grace means election you have to prove it because you're inserting concepts into a word that aren't there.
@@LoftOfTheUniverse What do you think the eternal purpose of God refers to according to which has saved and called His people?
@@LoftOfTheUniverse God did not give His Son grace in eternity past. Election was by grace. Read the first part of Romans 11
@@GreatLightStudios We do have an appropriate understanding of what Union with Christ is. Read the text I mentioned and try not to import your mistaken idea of libertarian free will into it.
The Bible nowhere says that God determines for people to sin. But it does say that God does not tempt anyone with sin but provides a way out of the sin whenever we are tempted. How could God determine sin (meaning you can't do otherwise) and then also not tempt you and provide a way out of sin? Calvinism is dizzying.
@dver89
You do know that both God intended the actions of Joseph's brothers (Gen. 50:20) and the actions of Herod, Pilate, Judas, the Gentiles and the people of Israel in the crucifixion of Jesus, right? There actions were clearly sinful and God had predetermined them. That, of course, doesn't mean that He caused any of those actions. They could have acted otherwise if they had desired to do so. They problem is that they had no such desire.
Just saw a video where doreen virtue attacked the demon slayers for calling calvanism evil, well it is. It puts the blame on God when God is perfect.
Go after someone's theology see how they scramble and get defensive. If you're a calvanist Youd be saying God is unjust and calling him a monster. Thats what atheists do. They use the scripture to speak truth but then they start adding their beliefs, wich are twists and manipulations.
Id rather someone be unsure of their salvation then to follow a false belief.
I do not know how non-Calvinist escape this argument as well. Sounds like you have the same issue.
If God foreknows people choosing Him, then aren't those people out of Christ until they choose Him, and then become "in Christ?"
@@victorbennett5414 What's the difference?
@@victorbennett5414 I do not disagree with that. The question is, where does faith come from? Is it a gift from God?
@@victorbennett5414 expected???
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I think you are confusing yourself.
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James 1:17 ESV - Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.
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God gifts us with his choice, with his election. He gifts us his son.
Election happens before the foundations of the world. There fore we are saved from the very beginning.
Jesus says john 10: 30
"I and the Father are one.”
Did you know that Spurgeon taught that predestination and free will are both true?
John 6:37 both
John the Baptist, predestination, elect
John 3:16-18 free will
Both are true, this is what I believe also.
@HaroldZwingley John 3:16-18 are definitely salvation scriptures. God also says to repent and believe. That's also a salvation scripture. I could go on and on. The problem with Calvinisim is that it's a lie from the pits of hell. And you don't see that truth because you're so happy that you're a Christian and to hell with everyone that's not predestined. You're blind!! Predestination and free will or if you can understand that God Almighty allows humans to make choices. They are both in scripture. God offers salvation to all humans regardless of what Calvin teaches. God bless you
Paul is speaking about who GOD has chosen to receive the blessings of salvation through being in CHRIST and goes on to say that only those who have heard and believed the word of truth and have been sealed by THE SPIRIT of promise receive the those blessings that come from salvation, being in HIM , in CHRIST.
Collossians 2 : 12 tells us plainly that we are raised to new life through faith. It does not say given new life to have faith . Calvinism is full of mysterious contradictions with scripture or is it contradictions that are mysterious in scripture ? There ae no contradictions within scripture until calvinism or arminianism or catholicism, etc.. are injected into them.
Thanks jordan .
GOD bless you brother.
Why do you misquote Col 2:12? Because it goes against your presuppositions of having an autonomous free will, which you don't. Man is not autonomous. Only God is.
Colossians 2:12 KJVS
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him 👉through the faith of the operation of God👈, who hath raised him from the dead.
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You wrongly assume that the Faith of the operation of God is God irresistibly infusing Faith in individuals. Could it be that the operation of God is the revelation of his Word that he has given specifically the gospel through which Faith comes when one understands (hears) it ?
Romans 10:14, 17 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Faith is believing something or someone. Must God irresistibly cause individuals to believe the gospel or has he chosen to persuade them through reasoning with them to get them to trust in him ?
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
@@robertmwangi1452 I don't "assume." Why? Assumptions are for unregenerates.
Those of us with the Spirit "know" Truth, as elect sons of God who hear and understand our Fathers voice in His Word. The "Spirit IS Truth."
You said that "the operation of God "could be" the revelation of His Word, specifically the gospel through which "faith comes" when "one understands (hears) it?" No, it's not "could be," it "IS." But, "understanding that ONLY happens AFTER one has been born again and in that new birth now "has eyes that see, and ears to hear." No unregenerate has "eyes that see, and ears that hear," as the natural mans carnal logic is at enmity with God and can "understsnd" nothing.
@@robertmwangi1452 You said "faith (masculine noun) is believing (verb) someone or something ie "trust." Do you trust your daughter to be babysat by a man you've never met, but he tells you he is not a pervert? No man "trusts" someone at their word alone, and he is a fool if he does. You ONLY trust some One your know intimately, as a groom that knows his wife.
Regeneration IS the "operation of God" imputing the "righteousness of God," which IS the faith OF Jesus Christ, to the elect sons of God.
@@ManassehJones
" No unregenerate has eyes that see and ears that hear"
If unregenerate cannot see the light because of the unchangeable decree of God,do you think it is just to condemn them for hating the light and loving the darkness if they cannot see the light in the first place because of the unchangeable decree of God ?
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
If unregenerate men cannot see or hear,why did the Lord Jesus use Parables to hide the truth from unbelievers , isn't that equal to putting blindfolds on people who are already blind or putting earmuffs on people who are already deaf ?
Matthew 13:10-11
[10]The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”
[11]He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.
Calvinist/Reformed churches have always impressed me as cold, impersonal, aloof, apathetic. Nothing there. Evangelism would seem like a moot point. I understand that the Calvinist doesn't know WHO the electare . But the fruit of the Calvinist vine is the aforementioned. Cold and dead. And as a side note, how do they reconcile the fact that their favorite child may not be elect. I know that is an oversimplification but I am not a very smart person. :)
This guy does not believe. Jesus when he says, "the flesh profits nothing" and "no man can come to me unless my. Father draws him". Paul said, "we were dead in sins" which is spiritually dead but. God made us alive, made us born again. We have freewill in carnal things but in spiritual things we have to born of God to come to Christ
That is why God gives us His grace so we can exercise free will. Can't do anything without grace.
What is grace? Grace is God working in us.
Philippians 2;12-13
you're nitpicking the language not the doctrine, which doesn't prove or disprove anything. chosen to be in Christ vs chosen in Christ. we believe both. you can't pretend you fully understand these eternal things. no one does. this language is the best we can do.
Your ansewer is simple, God Initiates everything, please look at Galatians 1:15.
Calvinism teaches the triune God, father, son and Holy Spirit (1 Cor 2 ) God revealed wisdom through the Holy Spirit. (1Cor2:14) the natural person does not accept the things of God.
Please interpret (Titus 3: 5-7) and you will have a better understanding of Gods work.
Ephesians 1:4-6 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.
What’s your point?
Perhaps more simply put, when he says, "Apart from Christ we have NO SPIRITUAL blessing," he destroys the Arminian soteriology starting with the spiritual blessing of atonement, then prevenient grace. In short, this case proves too much. So dispense with this line of argumentation, it's not well thought through.
Those are good points to bring up to this argument, but ones that I have thought through and I don't find to be challenging to what I'm arguing for.
1. To be more clear, the specific "spiritual blessings" that I'm arguing we do not have are those that are directly referred to in Ephesians 1. Of course this doesn't mean that humanity apart from Christ does not receive ANY favor, blessing, grace, etc. Of course we do. God even gives rain and sunshine to the evil and ungrateful. The point is that those benefits that concern our reconciliation with God are not things that we receive or possess until we are first united to Christ. This fits with a non-Calvinist view of the atonement, being that the atonement is surely provided for all, but one does not become individually impacted by it... one does not receive the atonement until or unless they receive Christ.
2. I'm not an arminian and do not know what the full entailments are of "prevenient grace," and so I feel this is a bit of a strawman argument against what I have said, being that it is assuming things about my position that are simply not accurate... i.e. --- I am not an arminian and therefore complications that might arise from arminian theology do not necessarily complicate my argument.
3. If prevenient grace is simply understood as the general work of grace and drawing God does in every person's life in some form or fashion (as I believe that he does) then again, this brings no complication to what I am saying. God drawing and working in lives by giving the evidence of creation, the conviction of the conscious the general blessings of gladness and joy of heart that the scriptures say God gives to mankind... these are meant to draw us toward Christ and into the place where we receive every spiritual blessing. However, this general grace and blessing from God of drawing and working in our lives is not itself in the same category as the spiritual blessings in Ephesians 1. I don't feel like this is a very difficult thing to see or understand. Ephesians 1 deals with ACTUALIZED reconciliation with God and the resulting benefits of being brought into living union with him. Whatever "prevenient grace" is in my understanding, it is not in the same category of blessing.
In all of my decades on this planet let alone as a Christian, I've never heard a more self-serving deliberate misinterpretation of God's word than that of Calvanism.
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Does the father not give us to the son?
25Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me,
26but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep.
27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
28I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
29My Father, who has given them to me,fn is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
30I and the Father are one.”
You are doing the Lord's work. I also struggled with the "in Christ" formulation and verbiage...especially the incoherence of the Calvinist/Reformed view of it. However, after reading DeSilva's, "Honor, Patronage, Kinship & Purity" followed by "Misreading Scripture with Individualist Eyes" by E. Randolph Richards and Richard James (along with much NT Wright!) a different and more beautiful picture emerges; that of being in a new family and family order, filled with purpose, love and all that would be expected by a household (kingdom) headed by Christ himself.
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My main issue with Calvinism is the same as my main issue with lying! Its not TRUE!
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Jesus wrote it.
You get a new heart then you get the spirit.
Ezekiel 11:19 - And I will give them one heart, and a new spirit I will put within them. I will remove the heart of stone from their flesh and give them a heart of flesh,
Ezekiel 36:26 ESV - And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
This does not teach calvinism, or regeneration before faith, in any way.
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If we are dead in our trespasses and sins. DEAD! because our heart is hard as rock and hardened by sin.
Versus...
God giving us a heart that "desires" to follow and seek him repenting of our hardened ways (sins) first then trusting God's sacrifice of his son Jesus christ.
Regeneration happens before faith.
: an act or the process of regenerating : the state of being regenerated
2: spiritual renewal or revival
3: renewal or restoration of a body, bodily part, or biological system (such as a forest) after injury or as a normal process
4: utilization by special devices of heat or other products that would ordinarily be lost
@@bryankeithr16 We are counted as dead when we walk in sin, even when we aren't actually dead, and it is by BELIEVING that we may have life in His name. There is absolutely no reason biblically that you should think otherwise.
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What does that mean...even when we aren't actually dead?
@@bryankeithr16 You're trying to use Ephesians 2 to say that we are dead, when it's obviously talking about people that are not ACTUALLY dead. It's because when we walk in sin, we are counted as being dead (our end is the second death). And when we believe, we are given eternal life, and counted as being alive in Christ.
You can't use Ephesians 2 to say we're actually dead, because it's obviously not saying that. And if we're not actually dead, then we can obviously make moral choices, and choose between life or death, as God has laid out before us to choose.
Jordan, you are looking for a verse that God has given benefits to some kind of people who are not yet in union with Christ, There are some verse that I can give you..
1. Romans 8:30 which says: "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified." You cannot find any "in him" here..
2. Romans 9:11-13, "(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."
These two children were not born yet and have not done anything good or bad but that according to election might be established...
Way to convoluted. Titus 3:5 and Romans 8:23. The Sledgehammers of truth against Calvinism. Love your channel, but this is too complicated. It might be what brought you out. But it is much simpler to use these Romans & Titus passages. Blessings friend.
Titus 2 : 11 by itself proves calvinism to be false . In my opinion there aren't any scriptures that explicitly support calvinism.
"all people" only means "ALL" if John McArthur says so. @@cecilspurlockjr.9421
I’m still fairly new to these topics. But what about hell? If Jesus died for the sins of the entire world than his death was in vain for all those who reject him and justly end up in hell. That’s unthinkable in my opinion.
@chiphawver How do you think HIS death and resurrection was in vain, my friend ? CHRIST came and died and resurrected for the sins of the whole world and that's what HE intended to do, so how could it be in vain ? HE came to give all of us the opportunity to come to HIM through HIS sacrifice and that's what HE accomplished so how could one possibly think HE died and resurrected in vain simply because some reject HIS love and mercy . True love, as CHRIST describes it isn't to do something for someone only because you think you'll get something in return , it's done for the good of that person out of charitable love , CHRIST like love . Without charity, love is hollow. 1 John 2 : 2 says CHRIST IS the propitiation for our sins and not only ours but for the sins of the whole world. Hebrews 2 : 9 says that CHRIST tasted death for every man. John 12 : 32 CHRIST says if HE is lifted up HE will draw ALL men unto HIMSELF. Also, here's a really teling one my friend, Mark 16 : 15 says that CHRIST has offered salvation to every creature in the whole world . CHRIST doesn't make offers HE doesn't intend to honor . Would CHRIST tell HIS apostles to go and deceive people that have no chance of believing, because HE created them with no ability to believe? CHRIST didn't tell HIS apostles to go and deceive people in HIS HOLY NAME by offering them a gospel that they can't receive.
Some calvinists need this level of explanation. I’m thankful for him.
2 Corinthians 13:5 - King James Version
5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
John 14:6 - King James Version
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
1 Timothy 2:4-6 - King James Version
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Romans 1:16 - King James Version
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. (The Letter of Paul to the Romans)
Romans 5:18 - King James Version
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (offence of one - Adam's one trespass, one sin, led to the condemnation of all men - the righteousness act of one was Jesus' death on the cross to pay for human sin)
We are all sinners and fall short in God his glory - how to be saved - this is the gospel of salvation - 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4 by trusting and believing the gospel of salvation you are saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise till the day of redemption and nothing can pluck you out of the Father his hand - (In whom we have redemption through his blood , even the forgiveness of sins: (Colossians 1:14 - King James Version) - eternal security is a free gift - it's a promise and God Almighty cannot lie!!! Have a blessed day!
This is the gospel of salvation - 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4
Witnesses of Christ's resurrection. 1) Moreover,brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2) ''By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
Ephesians 2:8-9 - King James Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
IT IS FINISHED... Paid in Full !!! But, You Must BELIEVE IT - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV.
2 Timothy 2:15 - King James Version
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Romans 2:16 - King James Version
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. (Paul's Gospel - 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4).
Galatians 1:8-9 - King James Version
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
KJV - Bible verses about Jesus is God
John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 10:30 - I and my Father are one.
Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
G - GRACE
R - RIGHTLY
A - APPLIED
C - CHANGES
E - EVERYTHING
Religion is always dealing with you and what you're doing and what you're not doing,
anytime you're sitting around thinking what should I be doing you're under religion,
the grace of God is dealing what Christ did.
Under religion man always says look what I'm doing for you God and under grace Christ says look what I did for you man.
Under religion man says look how I went to church and under the grace of God Jesus said look how I went to Calvary.
Under religion man says look at how I was raised in my denomination and under grace Christ says look how I was raised from the dead.
Under religion man says look at how I gave my money and under grace Jesus says look at how I gave my life.
Under religion man says look God at how I confessed my sins and under grace Jesus says look man how I took away your sins.
Under religion man says look God at how I stood up against sin and under the grace of God Jesus says look man at how I died for your sins.
Under religion man says look God at how I judged the lost world and under grace Jesus says look man at how I saved the lost world.
Under religion man says look God at how I got up and marched against these evildoers and under grace Jesus says look man how I suffered and died for evildoers.
Under religion man says look God at how I bow down to you and under grace Jesus says look man and how I became one of you.
Under religion man says look God at how I healed the sick and under grace Jesus says look man how I raised the dead.
Under religion man says look God at how I spoke in tongues and under grace Jesus says look man at how I spoke in life.
Under religion man says look God at how successful my life was and under grace Jesus says looked me at how successful my death was.
Religions my friends is always man trying to reach up to God with self effort to be accepted by God.
Through classic Christianity was God reaching down to man through Jesus with love and acceptance and that's why Paul said we preach Christ and Christ crucified a stumbling block to the Jews foolishness to the Gentiles but to those whom God has called both Jews and Gentile Christ the power of God and wisdom.
Source ''Truth Time Radio''.
Like many "Christians" today, Satan believes Jesus died on the cross, but not for HIS sins. He believes Jesus has risen, but not for HIS eternal life.
Satan believes the event of the cross but never put his trust in Christ's finished work for salvation.
Salvation is not: Believing there is a God. (Satan believes that)
Salvation is not: Believing Christ was the Messiah. (Satan believes that)
Salvation is not even... Believing Christ died, was buried and rose the third day. (Satan believes that also)
Salvation is: Believing Christ died for YOUR EVERY SIN and trusting that He rose to give you eternal life IN HIM!
Something Satan and most Christians want no part of because of their PRIDE!
If denominationalists truly believed Christ forgave their sins, they wouldn't spend so much time trying to GET them forgiven.
One tells you to pray for forgiveness.
One tells you to confess for forgiveness.
One tells you to believe for forgiveness.
One tells you to repent for forgiveness.
One tells you to be baptized for forgiveness.
And keep in mind, all of these folk with a straight face will tell you Christ DIED for your sins. Welcome to Nutsville!!! I think Dorothy got lost on the yellow brick road.
Today I unapologetically proclaim that there is only one way to be saved, and it has nothing to do with getting your sins forgiven. Salvations through FAITH. (Ephesians 2:8-9) Without faith it is impossible to please God.
Salvation comes to those who are ready to give up on THEIR performance and rest their faith in JESUS' performance.
The path to salvation is narrow. SO narrow that nothing you do will fit.
Satan will never be saved for the same reason he was kicked out of heaven. P-R-I-D-E. (Isaiah 14:12-14)
Read carefully and count how many times he says "I".
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Satan is obviously a Narcissist!
Like a vain person in front of the mirror, five times in only three verses he boasts of himself. Pride keeps Satan from being saved as it does most of the world. They have fallen victim to SELFIANITY and are incapable of letting go and letting God. Incapable of taking their filthy hands off their salvation and allowing God to save them by HIS finished work!
If you say --- "I said a prayer for forgiveness." "I confessed for forgiveness." "I believed for forgiveness." "I repented for forgiveness." "I was baptized for forgiveness."
Then sadly you have fallen for the five I's just like Satan.
Salvation is not getting your sins forgiven, it's believing they already ARE!
To be saved, you must first get "I" out of the way.
You only get two educations, the one you're given and the one you give yourself!
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Wow... the spiritual gymnastics to get to your position! God's Word is not complicated but you make it so.
If you perceive what I’ve said as spiritual gymnastics then I’d recommend you may need to do some studying of the concept of Union with Christ. This is quite a simple concept actually.
John 3:16. Who’s the one doing the gymnastics, here? Calvinists reject the plain meaning of this verse, and contort it into something needlessly complicated, so that it no longer means what it says.
Calvinist saying “spiritual gymnastics “ lol 😂 what a joke
A Calvinist with their inflated ego's will always look down on anyone who aposes their views as they all believe they have been saved since before the World was created and they believe you are going to Hell so they dont care what you have to say.
Calvinists don't believe we have been saved since before the world was created and we don't believe you are going to hell if you have trusted God's promise to pardon and justify you based on the redemptive work of Christ.
My main issue with Provisionism is that it denies salvation by grace alone.
A complete wrong assessment, grace comes 100% from God, but any sinner must we willing to receive His Grace. Main issue: Is salvation conditional, according to scripture it is (for instance Acts 2:36-41) otherwise it would be an insidious proposition.
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Is a desire to be saved a work of God or man?
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 The Spirit convicts, at that point you have an autonomous choice to either reject or accept the invitation. Acts 2:41
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 the desire to be saved is not a work at all. It is a desire.
“Heavenly places” is the kingdom of God. Jesus says you cannot enter the kingdom of God, and thus be blessed, without being born from above.
Because of him ye are in Christ
For though her sons had not been born yet or done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to election might stand - not from works but from the one who calls - she was told, The older will serve the younger.
Romans 9:11-12 CSB
At about the minute 30:00 you claim that the Bible doesn’t argue that men are “made alive” first and then they hear. But that is exactly what the Scriptures say. In Ezekiel 36, God explains clearly that Israel will not hear, will not listen, will not obey so He will change them (ie give them a new heart and Spirit) and cause them to obey ALL OF HIS COMMANDS.
In 1 Corinthians 1 & 2, Paul distinguishes the NATURAL man from the SPIRITUAL by how they respond to the gospel. The natural man thinks it is FOLLY. The Spiritual man can hear it and understand.
In Romans 8, Paul makes the same distinction between those whose minds are fleshly and those who are Spiritual and then he says:
Romans 8:9: You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, IF IN FACT THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELLS IN YOU. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
So yes, all men have “physical ears” and “physical eyes” to see what is being said and done. But only those who ARE SPIRITUAL can see it with SPIRITUAL eyes. Only those with the Spirit can understand.
But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”
1 Corinthians 1:27-31 ESV
God chose the nothings of the world and its because of this choice that you are in Christ so that no man may boast. Sure sounds like He is saying here that He chose us the nothings of the world to be in christ and that because my being in Christ is based in my nothingness and His choice that I have no room for any boasting in self.
How come you guys dont want to give God the glory for this?
Because of Him you are in Christ Jesus and He makes that statement right after saying God chose the foolish. So what He is saying is because of this choice you are in Christ Jesus. And He definitely didnt say God chose the foolish in Him. Just that He chose the foolish.
You said “chosen because they are in Christ”
The Bible says “because of him you are in Christ”. “God has chosen things that are not, in order *to be* of no effect”
And it says he has chosen you in Christ before the foundation of the world
Yes, He chose you who are in Christ to have the Spiritual blessings listed in Ephesians 1. He made this plan before the creation of the world. He didn't choose who is to be in Christ, but He chose whoever is in Christ to be Holy and blameless, etc.
@@jcthomas3408 “out of him you are in Christ” 1 cor 1:30
He chose the things that are not in order that they won’t be not. 1 cor 1:28
@@jcthomas3408Ephesians 1:4 in context: "us" is Paul and the saints who are at Ephesus. "Us" is the direct object of "chose". When was it that God chose Paul and the saints who are at Ephesus? Before the foundation of the world. What is that result of that choice? In Him, Paul and the saints who are at Ephesus are holy and without blame before Him in love.
@@TheMaineSurveyor When did God choose us in him?
@@aletheia8054 Before the foundation of the world.
Brother where did you study? Are you just self taught? There are assumptions you have about Calvinism that are misunderstandings about what reformed christians believe. If you had a seminary degree, and knew how to evaluate different theological systems, then I think you would be more charitable to Calvinism
I hope you don’t read my comment and just dismiss it as an arrogant Calvinist putting you down. Have the humility brother to truly think about how you characterize other brothers theology
@@victortorres7314 Please specify the misunderstandings. What did I say about Calvinism that is incorrect?
In other words, “yOu doNt understand CalvinisM”.
He nailed it!
You don't need a seminary degree to understand Calvanism! Why would you think that?
Simply put, God condems and says we should avoid evil. How can one condem anything that God has predetermined to occur?
Am I understanding this correctly? You think ALL BENEFITS are found in Christ but yet God has given ALL MEN EVERYWHERE this incredible gospel and ability to come to him? How is the gospel itself, or about ability to come to it, which goes to ALL MEN not a benefit?
For example, at about minute 12 you use language like “if we have Christ we have everything else” and “we receive nothing apart from Union with Christ”. So God has not given ANY BENEFITS to men whatsoever UNTIL he places us in union with Christ? Even the “being placed in union with Christ” isn’t a benefit?
This view doesn’t make sense to me at all.
Of course all men everywhere get blessings from God… I think I clarify this in this conversation. Maybe to keep it simple I’d put it this way… all of the benefits listed whether in Ephesians, Colossians or elsewhere that are said be be “in Christ” are not things we get until we are in Christ.
@@GreatLightStudios. Why don’t you just say plainly how do you think you “get” in Christ?
You put the verse on the screen and then you ignored it
@@GreatLightStudios - Ok, so life, breath, family, daily bread, free will, the ability to hear the gospel are all BENEFITS that we receive apart from Christ in your view?
Is being PLACED IN CHRIST a benefit? If it is, then how can we receive it on your view apart from Christ? It seems you are saying that OUR FAITH places us in Christ. But you don't deny that it is God who actually connects us to Christ do you?
@@brentonstanfield5198 Yes, to your first question. These are good questions btw and a good reminder to be more clear in specifying what I am and am not saying. One concern I have as I teach this view is that it will be taken to mean that God’s grace and kindness is extremely exclusive and limited… which I don’t think it is. As a non-Calvinist I believe he is working and moving in each life and has compassion and mercy for all. And so of course I don’t intend to say that God’s love and blessings are shut off from us entirely.
Is being placed in Christ a benefit? Again, good and valid question Brenton. First I’d just say that when I talk about the exclusive blessings that we only get IN CHRIST, I’m referring to those blessings that are explicitly said to be IN CHRIST. “Chosen to be holy and blameless btfote” is indeed one of those blessings that is explicitly said to be apprehended and experienced only by those who are in Christ. Which is why when it comes to Calvinism, I emphasize this point that election isn’t ever applied to someone who isn’t “outside” of Christ.
I do not know of a verse that says that “being placed in Christ” is a blessing only for those “in Christ.” So of course, I wouldn’t put it (whatever it is and however it happens) as being the same category of the spiritual blessings that ARE said to be in Christ… such as forgiveness, redemption, inheritance and of course being chosen to be holy and blameless. Again, none of these things are ever applied to those “outside” of Christ.
The thing about our being placed in Christ… this is analogous to a marriage union in which to partners come into agreement with one another. And so I don’t think that our being placed in Christ is something that should necessarily be understood as an exclusive act of God in the sense that this is about two parties joining together as one, where both are freely giving themselves to the other. I don’t claim to understand the full extent of how this works as if I could draw out an exact schematic of how this works or to what extent either party is involved. Just to say that… I think that act of us being forgiven and redeemed and made alive is entirely a work of God. We don’t cause ourselves to be forgiven and redeemed or chosen. These are things God bestows on us as a result of our Union to him. But, I’m not so sure that the union itself should be thought of as being in the same “category” as these other things.
These are just some initial thoughts that I’d need more time to think through to fully develop. I sincerely appreciate these questions though, because these are in line with some of the primary pushback I myself have had come to mind as I’ve thought about this view.
I’ll be thinking about all of this and will let you know if I have any further thoughts.
@@GreatLightStudios - You say: *"One concern I have as I teach this view is that it will be taken to mean that God’s grace and kindness is extremely exclusive and limited… which I don’t think it is. As a non-Calvinist I believe he is working and moving in each life and has compassion and mercy for all."*
Amen! As a Calvinist I affirm most of that, to say that God is GRACIOUS to all and His mercy is to all men. Indeed, ALL is of grace.
You say: *"Which is why when it comes to Calvinism, I emphasize this point that election isn’t ever applied to someone who isn’t “outside” of Christ."*
But here we have a problem. Because "election" simply means "chosen", and you do not seem to deny that God CHOOSES/ELECTS some people TO BE IN CHRIST and rejects others. So you are not denying that men are CHOSEN to be in Christ... and that because of God's foreknowledge you cannot really deny that God has CHOSEN those who will be in Christ from the foundation of the world. You might deny that Ephesians 1:4 is teaching that specific doctrine. But you believe it by implication. Our two positions seem to play out like this:
Mine: God chooses in eternity to put you in Christ IN TIME based on His own purposes and not foreseen faith --> In time, He puts you in Christ at t1 --> As a result of being in Christ as of t1, you have FAITH because FAITH is a Spiritual blessing --> As a result of being in Christ you also perform other good works and are ultimately perfected by God/made Holy and blameless (i.e. glorified) because this also is a spiritual blessing.
Yours: God chooses in eternity to put you in Christ IN TIME based on foreseen faith --> In time, you believe at t1 just as God foresaw you would (faith is NOT a spiritual blessing) --> God puts you in Christ --> As a result of being in Christ you also perform other good works and are ultimately perfected by God/made Holy and blameless (i.e. glorified) because this also is a spiritual blessing.
So the only real difference between our two positions is the basis of God's choice in eternity... not whether He made such a choice about us... and whether or not faith is one of the spiritual blessings in Christ. Is that accurate? What am I missing.
23:56 your rambling.
Do not calvinists believe this?
God is the cause and the source.
And the lamp and cord, electricity analogy doesn't work because that isn't what calvinists believe.
25:30
You said you were gonna let the calvinists speak for themselves and yet you are saying John MacArthur is calling the primary blessing is being chosen?
Never has he said that nor any calvinist.
I've never heard him say that.
You sir are bearing false witness.
@@bryankeithr16 he literally showed the video of JMac directly quoting exactly that 🤣🤣
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Right but jmac didn't say that because of God's choosing us. Electing us. That now every spiritual blessing is inferior after that.
The life you are asking about at minute 21:00 is the RESULT of God “plugging you” into Christ, putting you into Him. The moment that happens, the Spirit flows through you. It is the working out IN TIME of what God has purposed before creation.
So God plugs us into Christ before we come to Christ or believe in him?
Do we FIRST get life and THEN eat and drink his flesh and blood?
@@GreatLightStudios - Yes, God plugs us into Christ and THEN we believe. Faith is the RESULT of God's Spirit working in us, of being plugged into Christ. I have illustrated this with your lamp analogy:
A man (God) plugs the lamp (us) into the outlet (Christ). The lamp doesn’t do that. Once plugged into the outlet (Christ), electricity (Spirit) flows into the lamp (us). The lamp now has electricity (Spirit producing faith within). To prove electricity (Spirit) is now in the lamp (us), the man (God) then flips the switch of the lamp so that the light comes on (good works seen by men confirming the Spirit within, eg profession of faith, baptism, loving neighbor, etc…) confirming that the lamp (us) is now connected to the outlet (Christ).
@@GreatLightStudios - Yes, as I explained in a previous post about John 6:53, when someone can DISCERN the body and blood of Christ in the elements (i.e. see the Spiritual reality of what Christ is saying) then it PROVES they have life in them... it doesn't CAUSE them to have life. This is why Paul teaches in 1 Corinthians 11:29:
For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself.
If you take communion, and cannot discern the Spiritual body and blood of Christ in the sacrament... i.e. you do not believe what Christ said in the words of institution, then you are eating and drinking judgment upon your Spiritual condition. You are PROVING that you are not Spiritually reborn.
Again, this is John's normal way of using language in his Gospel in and in his Epistles. He uses the form:
Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
Eating and drinking the flesh PROVES you have life in you. Notice how John phrases it the same way in 1 John:
1 John 2:29 - If you know that he is righteous, you may be sure that everyone who practices righteousness has been born of him.
1 John 5:1 - Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.
Note the way these passages are structured. The action PROVES the condition. He is not teaching that IN ORDER TO BE BORN OF GOD, we must:
(1) Practice righteousness (1 John 2:29);
(2) Love the Father (1 John 5:1); and
(3) Believe Jesus is the Christ.
He is saying that those who (a) practice righteousness, (b) love God, and (c) believe in Christ PROVE that they have been born again.
I feel sorry for you that you understand so little about what Calvinists actually beleive but yet are so willing to display your prodigious ignorance for all to see.