Why Local Train Don't Have Automatic Doors || लोकल ट्रेन में स्वचालित दरवाज़े क्यों नहीं होते?
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2024
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Mumbai's local trains, the city's lifeline, form one of the world's busiest suburban rail networks. Comprising the Western, Central, Harbour, Trans-Harbour, and Vasai Road-Diva-Panvel lines, they connect vast urban and suburban areas. Trains, running every 3-5 minutes during peak hours, handle immense passenger volumes, with both fast and slow services available. Ticketing includes single journey options and season passes, with smart cards and mobile apps for convenience. Despite issues like overcrowding and safety concerns, developments such as air-conditioned trains and station upgrades are underway. Key stations like Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Terminus, Dadar, Thane, and Andheri serve as major hubs. The trains are integral to daily life, offering an economical, quick transport mode and fostering a unique commuter community. They symbolize Mumbai's vibrancy and resilience, playing a crucial role in its socio-economic fabric.
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4:00 incorrect logic, even if delays happen during initial implementations, that's how people will learn. They have to learn that they cannot just endlessly pile up on the doors.
Also, it's our nation's collective shame that we didn't modernize or scale railways for capacity after British left. This is so shameful that we are 1.4 billion population and still foreign companies are providing us advanced technology and bullet trains, when we should've been the one to develop all this. (Thanks socialism and Congress)
At this point of time, we shouldn't have any non AC trains in the entire network of Indian railways. This is so depressing that we still use LHB and antique ICF coaches in trains.
Auto close doors are just one part of the solution puzzle and should not be looked in isolation. Holistic high quality solutions should be developed to tackle this issue. 2,500 people are dying and still our conscience is sleeping. It's not only safety issue but dignity and quality of life issue as well.
Arey Bhai kabhi Mumbai local train ko use Kiya hai?
Ek baar Mumbai jao. Poore hafte daily ek ek baar churchgate to boriwali and back travel Karo. Fir daily ek ek baar CST se Kalyan and back travel Karo.
Aate daal ka bhav pata chal jayega
@@neerajwatoh iska matab automatic door na lagae. Pagal ho gaya tu.
Mai delhi mai rheta hoon and aisi crowding Delhi Metro mai bi hai but log manage kar lete hai. Dikat logo mai hai, trains ki nahi
@@immortalwarrior2695 arey Bhai baat Maan. 10 din ke liye mumbai ja. Ek week Tak Mumbai local me travel kar.
I have lived in all the metro cities of India for more than 1 year continuously in each of them except kolkata. I know what I am talking about.
Right, another person blaming the Congress and misunderstanding socialism.
Remind me...what has BJP done to improve the situation? 10 years is more than enough to restructure railways in beneficial ways.
@@abiofficial-ws7pn Mumbai mei kuch improve karna is next to impossible hai. That's why NCR has developed by leaps and bounds in last 10 years than mumbai
We can learn from tokyo's yamanote line. Even though it is a metro line, it sees crowd density similar to mumbai local. Transverse seating can increase the capacity by a bit, and 5 doors instead of 4 can be implemented. Air conditioning can still be avoided if the automated doors have reinforced mesh openings since cost seems to bother railways more than safety
Haa bhai har cheez sasti chahiye Indians ko chahe usme Jaan ki jokhim hi kyun na ho
Transverse seating option was implemented by railways but it was rejected. The travelling time for a 10km journey in Mumbai is around 20-25 mins avg in city & 15 mins as we move away from city (due to less stations). Many people travel 100km daily in one direction and can't afford to stand for 2 or 2.5 hrs. Hence it is rejected. Even for shorter journeys like 30 kms, the travel time is approx 50 mins to 1 hr. People won't accept standing 1 hr daily after a tiresome day in the office.
Waha pe railway staff hote hain jo logo ko dakha deke anadar pack karte Hain.
Another day of thanking god for not being born in Mumbai
*born poor in Mumbai
@@river. yes 😅😅
Mumbai is filthy rich. Take a round of South Bombay once
@@azherkhan5677 majority of people are still poor or middle class.. on the top i will never live in such an overpopulated city
Exactly bro @@Rahulsharma80558.. Even if I become highly rich smday I will never intend to spend my life in the so called developed metro but unorganised cities like Mumbai, Kolkata, Delhi, Gurugram. Rather I wl prefer living in small but planned & organised cities or in some rural peaceful area..
I find it hard to believe that time is a reason for the railway to not install doors. We see so many trains running so late (sometimes late by hours) in India. If time was really a concern, they would've done something about all those delays in so many trains. So, if you're saying that the lack of doors is so that they can save a few seconds per station, i find that hard to believe.
Me As a true Mumbaikar... And as a daily local train traveller, we're used to it now... We've to board and deboard the train while it's running otherwise it's difficult to survice in this city. Still it's आमची मुंबई ❤
Imo railways should totally scrap out the normal local trains in mumbai and should introduce the vande metro as replacement of Mumbai local trains
50% coaches of every train must be general category and if local train category (less sitting more standing)
@@azherkhan5677 nobody's gonna accept standing for 1+ hrs in one way journey. Neither will I.
Mumbai, Kolkata jaise cities mein Automated Doors abhi implement karna bahut mushkil hain 😐
Niyat ho tho sab kuch ho jata ha niyat ni ha krne ki government ki😡
@@user-zg4kr8iq5u niyat se to public ko to tukna bhi nahi chahiye lekin niyat to govt ki achhi nahi hai...
None of the issues you raised make an excuse for not implementing the automatic door system in the railways
There's one way to reduce crowd in local trains. Employ a system which checks tickets of daily passengers compulsorily. You will see the crowd get reduced to 20% of its capacity and the railways will be on profits and they can complete the projects. Jitna railways ki galti hai usse zyada galti public ki hai jo ticket ke 20 rupay nahi dete lekin 100 chize demand karte hai.
Trains ko ek public service ki tarah treatment dena bandh karna hoga aise hi public ko akal aayegi aur hamare llocal train system mein sudhar aayegi
Iss baat se agree karta hoon ki logo ki sabse badi galti hai
As per Sudhanshu Mani, to convert 1 normal express compartment's doors (4 approx) into Auto-closing doors, we need ~20 Lakh Rs. I assume ~30lakhs for Local trains.
The solution is converting all local trains into AC Locals with reduced seating (3x2 or 2x2) to accomodate more ppl standing!
so what?
Exactly
50% coaches of every train must be general category and if local train category (less sitting more standing)
@@azherkhan5677 Correct - makes a lot of sense!
The reduced seating option was tested by railways and people have rejected it. Mainly becoz people don't want to stand 1 or 2 hrs after their day finishes. This trains get jam packed at the origin station. I travel daily on local. And during my 30km journey if I am lucky then hardly 1 or 2 passenger gets up from his seat. A 2x2 or 3x2 seating arrangement will reduce this probability drastically. Hence people has rejected this option.
Sir japan me vi to crouded tran hote hay.per waha par to train time pe chalta hay.
Udar tracks jyda bhi toh hai 🙂
@@shining7287 vai duniya me sabse jayda platform wala station india me he hi he usse vijayda trak hay kay?
@@shining7287 dakho prob dono ka hi he.sarkar ka or hamara.sarkar ka bujet.bujet aye to cut money.and hamara,aacha train dakha nahi ki pattar baji chalu.gutka khake thukna.kuch vi khao khacra train me fek do.infact kahi na kahi hum e vi sudharna hoga.
Japan ek chota Desh hai and wahan pe super fast metro chalti hai
bullet train and suburban train train mai diff sikho pahla .
Government and officers treats citizens as insects. They will priorities low cost bidders or their relative contractors for projects.
They will safty as the last priority and cost and corruption as first priority. Thats why you will see more employees in BSNL than Airtel and more employees in SBI than HDFC bank. But you know which one is more reliable
Midoriya
As a mumbaikar i feel open doors more convenient and comfortable ❤❤
Pls inform about development of Northeast😢😢
Of comments comparing Mumbai's rail network to Tokyo's forget that it is spread over a wider area and has multiple rail lines serving it.....whereas Mumbai is bounded by geographical constraints and most of the working population has to travel through specific corridors to get to the city.
I travel daily by Mumbai local. It's better without doors.
Indian railways has to compulsory ac train need all trains and automatic doors need security first
I hope coastal road and metros may reduce some load from local trains. But after that growth should be directed towards Navi Mumbai.
It wont help until constant migration still take place.Migrants increase weaker these all infrastructure becomes
Mumbai mese illegal slums hatado Suburban Railway ka crowd kam hojayega.
Mumbai Suburban association separate association bana chahiye tabhi Mumbai Suburban network me Development hogi.
Mmr local train association bolo sirf locals handle hongi udr usse kya hi central railways ko ye sab nahi karna padega aur jald se jaldi sari locals nayi se replace bhi karne chaiye new locals with new tech with closed doors and full ac
@askpt why is mumbais central line almost always late as compared to western railway?
More passengers trains and more freight trains compared to wr
3 Major reasons -
1. 6 lines only from Vidyavihar to Kalyan. So express trains use 4 lines instead of 2, leaving less tracks for local trains. We all will be long gone before 5th and 6th lines are added from Kurla to CSMT.
2. Not enough platforms at Kalyan Jn. Kasara line and Karjat/Khopoli line converge at Kalyan.
3. Probably the biggest reason - Diva Jn railway crossing. Diva Jn is THE place for projects done in a half assed manner. Want to build a Road Overbridge to close the crossing? Don't worry. We have an ROB with a ramp only on the east side, and no ramp on its west side, giving an opportunity for all the vehicles to do action movie level stunts. Want to reduce overcrowding at platforms 1 and 2? Don't worry. We have built a cement platform with no tiles or yellow marker tiles for blind people on the west side of the station, only for around 7 bogies of a 12 bogie train.
@@shanesunil and also ig old signalling systems all fast locals terminating at csmt
😢 mere bade bhai ki mumbai local train se gir ke death ho gayi thi (college jate samay train overcrowded thi ) and har saal 2000 to 3000 death hoti he sirf mumbai local se and railway ka accidental death ka claim kiya to railway ke lowyer ne case ko sucide case declare karke case close kiya (isame motor man ka bhi fake state ment liya and 90 % rail accident ko railway court sucide case declare karke close karta he ) because railway ka paisa waste na ho claim pe
Governmet ko vande metro and bullet train jaise fancy dikhave se jada mumbai local train ke safety pe pehale jada focus karna chahiye 😢
@@nileshmahajan4926 10 rupaye ki to ticket lete nahi mumbaikars, aur quality chahiye next level. 15 saal se Mumbai Locals ke fare nahi badhne diye tumne. Kahan se ayega paisa?
Because they have the spirit of Mumbai
Stop abusing Mumbai moron
Apke videos me pata nahi kyu voice over ka sound bahut low rehta hai, dusre channels ke comparison me.
Ya fir mere phone me hi kuch problem hai.
In Japan , they have deployed passenger pusher for crowd
Simple answer is government failure nothing else
3:00 Lekin agar darwaje bandh hotte hain... toh train ke speed bhi badha sakte hain... toh wahin chadne utarne ka jo samay hain woh fast train se cover ho jayegi!
Implement automatic doors, if there are problems with doors closing due to crowd, employ pushers( like oshiyas in Japan). Upgrade signaling system, and to compensate costs, increase fair by ₹5.
Make a video on cbdc signalling system
Bhai aapke ek bhi reason justifiable nhi h
He is mumbaikar
Usko local trains ke dhakke nostalgia feel karata hai.
50% coaches of every train must be general category and if local train category (less sitting more standing)
Petition to make 5 pm Ambarnath non ac..
@AskPT The principal problem is of over-demand and under-capacity. Mumbai really needs RRTS or something along those lines. It would provide fast-paced connectivity throughout the Mumbai with fewer stations. The RRTS stations should be near a metro station to ensure last-mile connectivity. RRTS alone is not suitable but with metro, it seems to solve the problem of local trains. The problem is, a large part of middle class in Mumbai travels via Mumbai local even though it doesn't want to. The reason is that travelling by car is prohibitively expensive for everyday use, costing in around thousand rupees per ride (if it is far) and is also time-taking. Whereas Mumbai local is dirt cheap, thus, a huge crowd travels by it. The RRTS, in tandem with Mumbai metro would fill in the gap between dirt cheap local and expensive and time-taking cabs. A huge part of crowd will use that option. The effect would be the decongestion of both Mumbai local and also the roads. RRTS+Metro project may need billions of dollars, but it is crucial for the unhindered growth of Mumbai in decades to come. Please give your take on this?
At the end point is we are not rich enough to bear the cost of this and we are not efficient and active enough to solve this
Stop defending dangerous activities like boarding in running train
In metro there also rush
I think we need more cities because our cities are overcrowded. Overcrowding is not just railway's fault it's cities fault as well
Automatic door is important for passengers safety and security & also for stopping ticketless passengers from getting in
Local need automatic door 😢 people jada nahi chadege japan ke tarah pusher man chahiye local train me automatic door chahiye
What mumbai needs is VERY HIGH frequency underground metro system, similar to magenta in dmrc.
Do u think after complete implementation of metros in Mumbai will the local trains crowd be reduced?
@@falcon1086 by the time all those lines finish(not before 2040), it won't be enough. We will be having similar crowd even then.
@@falcon1086 it will reduce if we startthe service now, but that's impossible. By the time we increase metro lines, population would also increase. We need to rapidly develop new systems.
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Safety zyada important hai ya time? Safety should not be compromised
Bhai ye jo video hai ye mostly faltu k bahane hai. Metro bhi chal rhi hai Mumbai m automatic doors k sath and vaha bhi local jaisi hi crowding hai. Abhi Mumbai thoda infra m upgrade karne laga hai but abhi bhi current infra tatti hai city ka population dekhte hue.
Do multi-tracking, build 8 lines, 4 lines up and 4 lines down. Each city should have 2 cities instead of 1. Don't give excuses. Mumbai is richest city in India and still can't solve these trivial things.
the richest city whose 52% of population lives in slums. Lol
Bhai tum apna mic badal lo aur thoda loud bola karo kuch samajh mein nahi aata hai tumhare bolne par.😢
why all of your videos have such low voice quality?
Pic hour wale train k under se Sare seat nikal dene se bohat croud handel kar sakte he.
But anyways trains are delayed thoda aur delay hojaye kya farak padta hai.
And why trains and platforms height are no at par. It's one of the major reasons for deaths.
5th largest economy with infrastructure worse than 100th economy in the world, this quality can be seen only in india.
Don't know man. Even much smaller countries like veitnam have Much better infrastructure than us.
Power train guy is doing rr for local trains just like bongs does this for trams
In next video cover local tain may Toilet kaha hai, uske baad first aid kit kaha hai
ye h suburban trains ki halat aur kuch gadhe isko metro/RRTS se compare krte h mumbai needed metro more than delhi but lost out on petty politics and stupid nostalgia Mumbai needs RRTS now and will again lose out on petty politics and stupid nostalgia they don't want improvement anyhow and anyway they don't deserve any sympathy
Agree that mumbai needs multi modal transport but delhi needed metro as well. Delhi's population is probably over 3 cr now and including NCR might be around 5 cr+. Whatever delhi has in transportation and road networks its very much required.
Aaj first class me travel kar rha tha aur ek lady thi vo phone pe baat karhi rahi kisi se aur jagda kar rhi thi bol rhai me train se kud jau kya karke. Kya hi bole
Why can't we make bigger train? Like dubble size.
Take Huge money through taxes from MUMBAI and Maharashtra, we have no problem.
Take credit of Big infra project of maharshtra and use in election campaign( samrudhhi mahamarg, atal setu , coastal road ) we have no problem.
But in returns what mumbai n maharshtra gets COMPARE to its contribution? 2500+ people dies annually ,let them die , mumbaikars has very cheap life!
Delhi has 390+ km metro(first line started in 2002) network with additional world class RRTS system, But for mumbai cancel approved tenders and let people suffer. Recently started to build metro not to mention RRTS like system even for next 15 years.
THE SOLE PROBLEM HERE IS NOT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES OR COST OR FUNDING BUT WILL TO CARRY OUT WORK.WELL MENTIONED POWERTRAIN NOR BABUS ARE INTERESTED NEITHER THE CENTER RAILWAY BOARD , BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TRAVEL IN LOCALS EVEN ONCE IN THEIR LIFETIME
It REALLY HURTS!
Konsa tender cancel hua tha MH main ?
Non-ac local train ban hona chahiye Mumbai mein, sirf ac local train chalegi with automatic open-close door.
Bhai amir baap ke aulad kam hi hote hai..
@@shiva9575 aisa kya?
@@piyushtekade3915 haa na bhai majority log AC ko afford hi nhi kar sakte aur dusri baat open doors >> automatic doors.. bahar ki hawa >> AC
I mean Japanese suburbs
Mumbai faces geographic limitations...reaching the suburbs from Mumbai can often mean covering considerable distances from the city center.
Incorrect logic. The real reason is govt doesn’t want to upgrade local trains because they want people to shift to Metro. The current government is friends with the people who owns Mumbai metro. If they upgrade the train which is very much possible as now they have vande metro people won’t shift to metro as local is more convenient and the whole ecosystem is built around locals.
The local train is a 70 year old technology. It is high time this outdated technology is replaced.
Log Mumbai jaate hi kyon hai pehle hi waha capacity se jyada population hai use dusri city me shift karna chahiye Mumbai ka vajan dusri City ko lena chahiye 😊
Baar baar ek hi topic! Ho gaya bhai ispe multiple time discussion.
Mumbai Suburban rail deaths are downright criminal. How do these babus justify loss of life vis-a-vis investments required make suburban travel safer. Secondly the premium charged for AC locals are also ridiculous. When AC metros can cheaper per km why does suburban AC trains have to be many times more expensive ?
I feel blessed not born in Mumbai 🤣🤣
Hah no excuse, indian train waise v late hi hota hay.
Japan me v aise hi veed hota hay, fir v train late nahi hota.
आप इतने वीडियो बनातें हों तो आप ट्रेन कि पटरियां बनानें के लिएं लोहा क्यों नहीं बनाते हों
Only way is creating jobs in other parts of Maharashtra and also small cities in other states , so that population burst will be less .
there is no value for human life in India and more so in Indian railways.. that's the real reason
Logo ko Mumbai Delhi nahi chahiye
Local train is a now shame for growing India
Log keede mkode ki tarah travel kar rahe par minister sahab ko vande bharat ke niche kuch dikhta hi nahi. 1 baar peak hours me travel kiye humare minister sahab to fatt ke 4 ho jayegi
Uakkaal
We need ac local train with automatic doors and strict rules and laws so our gutka eater brothers don't ruin this
I disagree with you logic at 4:00 You have undermined mumbaikars ability to change for better technology.
The same mumbaikars who change at Ghatkopar Andher stations and take metro manage the automatic closed door situation properly. The crowd situation there are nothing different than this.
I also disagree with you at 5:55 about high cost of operations, maintenance etc
Bullet trains will serve hardly 1 lakh upper middle class people on daily basis. For that they spend INR 180,000 Crore. Here average 80 Lakh commuters travel putting their life on edge just to earn their daily bread everyday.
These 80 Lakh commuters may not be upper middle class but collectively they drive the financial capital of this country. 2500 lives lost every year is nothing less precious than of those for whom they build bullet trains.
Therefore, every mumbaikar should learn how much of the tax is contributed by Mumbai alone. And how these tax payers money are being utilized. (Bhai ab koi ye mat bolna ki me gareeb hu aur income tax nai bharta. GST is desh me har koi bhar ta he.)
If train stops for more time, they shall increase train speeds and cover the time wasted there
Should make Bombay a Union Territory. Else politicians will use it as a cash cow and not give anything back.
50% coaches of every train must be general category and if local train category (less sitting more standing)