Why Mumbai Local Trains Never Upgraded ! मुंबई लोकल ट्रेनों को कभी अपग्रेड क्यों नहीं किया गया!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- #indianrailways #mumbai #infrastructure
The Mumbai local trains, often referred to as the lifeline of the city, face various challenges when it comes to upgrading. Several factors contribute to the slow pace of upgrades:
1. **Overcrowding**: Mumbai locals are infamous for their overcrowding, especially during peak hours. Upgrading infrastructure or introducing new technology while maintaining operations is a significant challenge.
2. **Legacy Infrastructure**: The local train system in Mumbai has been in place for decades, and much of its infrastructure is old and in need of modernization. Upgrading such legacy systems without disrupting services is a complex task.
3. **Financial Constraints**: Upgrading a massive public transportation system like Mumbai locals requires substantial investment. Financial constraints often delay or limit the scope of upgrades.
4. **Political and Bureaucratic Hurdles**: Introducing changes to such a critical aspect of Mumbai's infrastructure involves navigating through bureaucratic processes and sometimes political considerations, which can slow down the pace of upgrades.
5. **Coordination Challenges**: Upgrading the Mumbai local trains involves coordination between various stakeholders, including government bodies, railway authorities, and civic agencies. Achieving consensus and coordination among these entities can be difficult.
6. **Maintenance**: With the trains running almost round the clock, finding suitable windows for maintenance and upgrades without disrupting services is a significant challenge.
7. **Safety Concerns**: Any upgrades must prioritize safety, which can sometimes slow down the process as thorough testing and evaluation are necessary to ensure the safety of passengers.
Despite these challenges, there have been some efforts to upgrade the Mumbai local trains, such as the introduction of new rolling stock, signaling systems, and station infrastructure. However, the pace of upgrades is often slower than desired due to the complexity of the task and the various challenges involved.
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The environmentalists driving Lamborghini can answer this question.
"ye car nahi, ye rath hai meri"🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
0:41 motivation ki demotivation😂😂
Motives bolna chata tha
See basically even if the Railway comitee observes one simple fact, then they can find real solution;
"Monitoring incoming passengers entering into station & outgoing passenger leaving the station".
The problem now is incoming passengers >> outgoing passengers at any point during peak hours.
This is the real issue for all.
Sab kuch fat fat upgrade hoga...shift railway officers quarters from Badhwar Park to Karjat
Bas bhai best advice! 🤣
Inka comfort cheen lo! Ekdum line pe aajayenge buddhe 😂
Jab hamare jaise up-down karenge tab samjhega inhe humara dard
Ab vande metro aayega
Mumbai local should give individual coaches to privete operators to make them attractive and charge according to the facilitie they would offer ?
Ac trains are beat option bcz 0% death case of fallin from train
Central line and harbour line train service is very poor service no time table fixed very bad service 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔
Jo mumbai main bane thaik
Bhai AC train peak hours me kaam nahi karte bohot garmi hoti hai bc 115 rp waste ho jate hai
Aaja jitna bhi infrastructure mumabi me he vo maharashtra government ne banya he central government ne mumbai ke liye kuch nahi kiya khali tax lete he , hope 4 june ke badd se kuch badla jaye..😢
Vande metro soon❤
the tender for vande metro in Mumbai has been CANCELLED.
@@Rising._.Thunderthat's great, no more aerodynamic metro design
Ab kyu nhi lgaya papa ki photo thumbnail me?😂😂😂 Isme b lga le agle saal award mil jayega chatneka 😂😂😂
Tum sirf tier banao aur bhokko kuch karo nahi 4 baje karne ke alawa
Kuch na hona Mumbai ka
Mumbai local se log gir ke mar rahe hai? Vo sab chhod ye dekh 1 aur route pe nayi vande bharat aa gayi yayyyy
Indian Railway🤬🤬🤬🤬🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
People in our country need to understand that travelling like this is NOT normal. Even if our population is big, it doesn't have to come with a caveat of traveling like cattle. Our government after independence did nothing to improve railways, no new capacity or tracks or trains or research and development. If they had done what they needed to. We would be looking at a very different India right now, perhaps with high speed trains all over India and enough capacity to carry every traveller with DIGNITY and HYGIENE.
At least this government is trying to upgrade railway capacity and introduction high speed railways. Painfully slow compared to China, but it's better than nothing.
You need money to upgrade everything. We have high population but for most part of last 75 years, we were abjectly poor and tax collection was minimal. We were almost bankrupt in 1991. It was only after that we started growing our economy and now we have enough means to work on our railways.
Secondly, slow pace is because of our system. Even with Modi at the top, our system is inefficient. Most of the time goes in land acquisition which involves lot of litigation. There are so many land parcels which have multiple and conflicting ownership and that too under litigation. Actual construction time is not that long.
China has an authoritarian government and people are tuned to listen to them no matter what. There is no practical democracy there and no vested interests. Do you want such system in India ? That’s the difference.
Even in the US, construction these days take long time similar to India.
Democracy is biggest problem for India's growth
@@anuragsarnaik sir ye sab Hume bhi pata he :) More than money or no money, attitude matters, mindset matters.
I'm working in a private company (one of the best in the world) and I can clearly say that working on impossible projects with impossible timelines, it's the attitude that makes a difference. Technically people are more or less the same. I've learned that typically what a normal person sees as a blocker task or a deal breaker. People in the best organisation see opportunities and ways to go around that blocker task.
In government, it's opposite, government employees can tell you 10 reasons why a task cannot be done. But great employees can tell you 10 opportunities or workaround to proceed forward. This has opened up my perspective on how projects should be done.
Our babus always point to reasons something cannot be done. But sometimes technocrats like sreedharan of Delhi metro, will point to reasons why something CAN be done and should be done.
Use me as Sarkari babu ko gali dene ka button😐
I worked very hard for few years to pass the civil exam so that i could get tons of side illegal money easily.
~probably an indian bureaucrat ( specially from that one state which is poorest as people dont care about their state , wont create entrepreneur environment but would flaunt their late 20s passed out candidates)
@@pikachuthunderbolt3919 Bihar
Dada no any job vacancy announcement and that why worker overtime and full issue health issues
Railway is in loss & people travel without tickets
Only privatization can save railway
Devendra fadanvis ko koi kuch nahi bolega 😅
I left Mumbai and moved to Pune just because of the local train
Pune local trains are better?
I just watched China's maglev planning video.
Our poverty of aspirations and our politicians+babus have failed our country on an unprecedented level. It's depressing.
It's so sad to see us just completing 1 bullet train line and china targeting 80k km of HSR lines AND 8k km of maglev lines by 2030.
Chinese understand the importance of great infra before anyone else in the world. They have subsidised their HSR rail to let go of profit in lieu of economy's development and prosperity, which is a far better return than earning on ticket prices.
@@pritishpatil7659 the most sensible comment I have read so far. Nice
Mumbai locals ko upgrade karne ki jarurat hai like RRTS fast and on time
Uske liye ticket price badhega, or protest chalu ho jayega
jo protest karenge woh khabhi train me travel nehi karte, agar subhidai baregi toh paisa toh dena parega😅@@jaysiddhapura
RRTS ka dedicated track, ticketing aur signalling system h
Yes RRTS is badly needed
@@jaysiddhapura Protest ke wajah se koi project rukta nahi h, political will nahi hone ke kaaran rukta h. Protest happen all over the world.
Jo train ka timinigs sudhar dega use jarur vote dungi. Paka 100% garantee.
Par hai kaun wo insaan 😭
theen vote BJP
Khatron ke Khiladi
👇
Mumbaiker's using daily Local ✅
Dont romanticise suffering
@@VKP-i5i exactly! as a Delhite, these Mumbai trains look just too chapri to me!
@@yuvu8115delhi trains looking chappri😂
The only reason is that Govt focusing on Road infrastructure more than Public Infrastructure as most of the Govt officials and Politicians use their own vehicles rather than Public Transport.
Railway officials are most curuppet and unionised, they think job milgae ab 60 yrs maje karo. Iska's solution is that a special purpose team should be made like DMRC and all local networks should be handover then only we can see something or else no hope, I have been traveling in local from last 18 yrs and it's se as it used to be.
Very nice,
What u said about "babus" is 100% right,
सरकार कुछ प्लान करती है
काम स्टार्ट करती है इससे पहले प्रोजेक्ट के खिलाफ इलिट वर्ग के लोग झंडे लेके खड़े हो जाते है ।
और इनकी बातो के आके आम मुंबईकर भी प्रोजेक्ट का विरोध करने लगता है।
और इलिट वर्ग के लोग फिर अपनी लैक्सुरी कार में बैठ के घर चले जाते है
Meanwhile our railway minister is busy tweeting videos of new vande bharat trains
State govt decision leti hai implement karne ka within cities, central govt bas amount sanction karti hai. Gaali dena hai to BMC aur state govt ko do jo project sanction hone ke baad bhi kaam karwake nahi lete in officers se! Everyone knows that corruption is other name of BMC!
@@The-Celestial Mumbai locals fall under indian railways , they have to lead any upgradation project
@@redrevolver11 Did you even take out a minute to understand my comment?
Say what you about British, they knew town planning much better. For ever 1 km of development, they planned infrastructure around it. The suburban train is what makes Mumbai an actual third world city. If the main trunk of railway is not improved, how can you improve quality of life for most of the people ?
मुंबई की लोकल ट्रेन, में मुफ्त ट्रैवल करनेवाले, लोकल वेंडर, जेबकतरे से लगाकर कई प्रकार के गुंडे जो हर समय ट्रेन या प्लेटफार्म में रहते हैं
Mumbai local train infrastructure (and for that matter any Indian Infra) is under designed and under engineered. Some of our Rail infra like new Bangalore station is over engineered and poor designed. There is no concept of USER Journey, or Design first approach considering and brainstorming what kind of experience we are going to provide users. The reason is lackluster attitude of researcher, designer, architect and govt employee. Continuous innovation and continuous improvement is the mantra for all over the world but in India people wants Govt job for lazy work condition, no accountability and safety. Sarkar is our Naukar! But the servants are ruling over us after the British raj! And general people also, who are busy managing day to day activities are tired or lethargic and don't demand any improvements.
Vande Metro must replace all local.
Do you really think ?
@@currently-unavailableVande Metro Suburban ke liye nahi mainline section mein use hogi almost like intercity services
@@jaybheda96 yeah but he is talking about mumbai local ig
Central gov reject lar degi😅
As u said people travel in ac local.. bhai passenger travelling ticketless even they are fined are 250 ... 😅😅😅 Ulta ghata railways ko.. Mumbai tickets is cheap traveling in pan India ... Station are improving , we can elevator , escalator at the surburban statons. Yes decades centre hi t ignored Mumbai progress and infrastructure including surburban trains.... Best option is metro , sea ferries ....
सारी समस्या का समाधान बिहार में फैक्ट्री लगाओ सारे बिहारी शिफ्ट कर तो समस्या जड़ से खत्म हो जाएगी जितनी local अभी चल रही है उन्हें भी कम करना पड़ेगा सच है ये😊😊
There are couple of steps govt should strictly impose:
1. Development of economic centres in northern suburbs like dombivli, badlapur etc.
2. Compulsory Work from home / alternate days office for every possible job that can do this for eg people in IT or designs etc.
3. Staggered work timings (which is partially implemented but very less response from companies)
4. (This is extreme) Limit entry of people in Mumbai metropolitan area. There's a limit to which city can sustain X amt of people and Mumbai is already overflowing out of capacity..
Even today as much as 10 people are lost on each line. 2 from my housing society were gone last month.
And please stop romanticism of rush in local trains in the name of spirit of Mumbai. It's just shows how ignorant we are which we are not actually.
So yes dearest Modi kaka vande Bharat par hame garv hai no doubt lekin humko iss gardi se bhi chutti dijiye manyvar 🙏🏻
Mumbai local train's minimum ticket should be upgraded to Rs 10/- from Rs 05/-
agree
Hoping vande metro will replace mumbai local completely
PRIVATISE THE rolling stock and see how it makes quantum progress, its the same story as state transport, sarkari approach ?
Mumbai Local Ka Western Railways, Central Railway Ke Haathon Me Hona Yani Mumbai Ki Barabadi Hona Hain, Mumbai Local Ko Independent Karna Aur Puri Tarah Maharashtra Sarkar Ke Under Karna Jaruri Hain....
Western & Central Railway Ke Aapas Me Matbhed Hone Ke Karan Mumbai Ko Iska Khamiyaza Bhugatana Padta Hain
"Jab tak projects poore hote hai, tab tak demand aur badh jaati hai" - galat...sahi kehna yeh hoga ki "Jab tak projects poore hote hai, tab tak travel karne wala insaan retire hoke mar jata hai". yahi reality hai!!!
15 दिन पहले मुंबई आया था... लोकल मैं इतने L लगे की फिर कभी जाऊ नहीं यही कामना 😂😂 साला बॅग तोड दी इधर से उधर से भिड हि भिड....woh life nahi nahi hai....aisi life nhi jini meko mai idhr hi sahi hu yavatmal मैं 😢
All we have done all these years is to over-romanticise the local trains by saying things like it is the lifeline of Mumbai. Yes, it is a lifeline, because there are no other alternatives for the common man. In reality, it is the most deadly mode of transportation. Nearly 2 and a half thousand people lose their lives every year due to over-crowding as per official records. The numbers that are not reported could be much higher. The primary reason for overcrowding according to me is ticketless travelling. None of the authorities seem to be bothered about resolving this issue. Conducting a few checks here and there doesnt solve the problem as TCs too are overloaded. Its high time our local train network gets an upgrade and that upgrade should stay relevant for the next 40-50 years. How long are people to suffer in crowded local trains. It is high time that the officials act on this before it becomes too late. We should aim for 100% AC locals so that no person loses his life and travels safely.
Main issue here is these local service is not cash cow for Indian (Central/Western) Railways. Bureaucracy actually is the biggest reason for this, as no one is answerable. Also you will find no Local MP is raising voice & highlighting this issue in Loksabha/Rajyasabha regarding such delays & that's why Govt Babu don't care.
Problem is they are not able to monetise the railway stations and land. Just doing these 2 things will improve the annual revenues
It's fine..it is doing It's intended job smoothly..once metro come crowd pressure will reduce
The root cause of the whole problem is the population which is explosive. No matter how many local trains you run, no matter how much you upgrade, nothing will happen to the trains.
how many local passengers travel legally? Do they all buy tickets? If not then how they can expect better facilities? Every service has a cost dude.
Mumbai revenue is given to bimaru states like up/bihar😢
कुछ लोग न खाते है न खाने देते है
उनको हम गरीब है तो पूरी दुनिया गरीब है
Simple hai government ko railways private karne ki jagaa railway manufacturing private karni chaiye fir train jaldi jaldi banegi
cost bhi utna hi jaldi badega 😂
@@ruchi8394sab kuch sastene chate hoto development ki manghi mat karo
Come to Chennai you will know how updated Mumbai local trains are.
What do you mean?
@@thefreemonk6938 I meant compare the EMU trains of Mumbai and Chennai and Chennai no match for it whether its the comfort, frequency, speed also the routes seems like it has hardly been built further where the Britishers left.
Bro please talk about recent Mumbai local train accident on harbour line that happened twice 😅
Main reason: Don’t care
we are taking our life on risk whenever traveling from local train
Population problem hai ... Second thing there is improve u can't say there is problem .. every 3 minutes there is train..
Ya but 3 minutes ka jo time he vo agar sahi se follow Kiya Jaye tho control kar sakte he
All locals trains should be of 15 coaches
Shift ke timings badal dene chahiye.
Bhai, you need to go actual root cause still you explaining sytumps why not sarkar introduce RRTS
because RRTS is not local train service and our local network has stations placed very closely as opposed to those on Delhi-Ghaziabad RRTS
Mumbai Suburban should be replaced with vandhe bharat
If you think that decision making and execution is slow in Mumbai then al habibi come to Kolkata. Bigger network than Mumbai and still in long distance routes, you'll get trains once in 1.5hrs. you'll also see trains from 90s which should have been in the museum already. The Sealdah South section is still operating with a double line and the authorities might think about quadrupling it in 2070. And yes no fast trains so you can imagine how pathetic it is for people to travel 60km+ distances. 🤣🤣
Whoever says they were never upgraded has never travelled in local trains. Most of the Local trains have upgraded to new ICF memu but crowd is only increasing.
ICF memu trains are outdated as per new technology suburban trains & metros are concerned. The more we get comfortable with this notion that it is enough that is upgraded and not immediately needed the more we give sarkari babus to neglect our innate needs & requirements. That should be stopped anyhow!
Curb ticketless travel, the overcrowding will reduce drastically. Ensure that every person HAS to book a ticket before boarding the train.
@@ojayadev kya hi hota hai ticket saare job wale ticket se he jaate hain
@@vikrantmahadik556 Sir job wale pass nikalte hain, but a very big chunk of travellers dont bother to take tickets.
Hey, I don’t want to be rude but you need to talk slowly n very clearly n raise your tone I have never fully understand your any videos. So please….
Thank you!
Raj Shah
Atlanta
Kitne dukh ki baat h ki mumbai financial capital h or iska public infrastructure itna kharab h
Mumbai is becoming a FAILED Metropolis! All due to corruption and "chalta hai" attitude!
Pluse Mumbai land is expensive, young educated are leaving the country setting in abroad.
80 lakh log saafar karte hau ya suffer karte hai?
suffer bhai suffer
KHANGRESS Founded by British Funded by Chinese Run by ltalians Tolerated by Bhartiyas
I think timmings kabhi nahi sudharenge kyuki agar 1 train late hogi uske vajahase 10 train late hoti hai quadropling hone ke bavajud
so many muslims in mumbai🥺🥺😰
To Jammu Kashmir, Lakshadweep kyu add Kiya Bharat main? Vaha per bhi jyada Muslims Hain. Itna jyada Hindu Muslim ho Raha Hain 😭 kya Muslim ko hate karne se Hindu ka fayada hota Hain ya Hindu ko hate karne se muslim ko fayda hota Hain? Ye nafrat ki politics band Karo.. Insaan Bano ✔️
@@जय_महा-राष्ट्रtell that to the congress that has started more and more buslim appeasement
@@AJ-zg5xw Chulu bar Paani Mai dub ke mar ja 😀
@@जय_महा-राष्ट्र no i was saying that they will not vote for bjp
@@Xyzambd234 haa to mere gav aur shaher Wale bhi BJP ko vote nhi Dene Wale 😀
We need new type of metro train in mumbai replace local and migration control law
When will India's population reach 50 crores?
Why not doble decker train, question from my childhood
Mumbai Local mei har roz 80 lakh log "Suffer" krte hain
Ye Sadi hi rhegi 50 saal se jaisi hai or Sadi hi rhegi..sala ghatiya railway
Vande metro should replace Mumbai local
Political will n budget allocation n little push by politician can only solve the issue
The Thane - Borivali route must need to start earlier
Yaar ye sab toh chalta rahega....pahile Vande bharaat shuru kro wo zayada imp hai 🙂 aur station ka redevelopment kro wo bhi imp hai baki Log mar gaye toh bhi chaleg
😂😂
Thenos bhayya population control ka act banao plzzz 😂😂😂
Brother Mumbai locals were using British era trians for decades under UPA gov. It's only after 2014, under NDA gov that the new trains replaced British trains. Now there are plans to replace current trains with Vande metro trains
british used 3 bogie trains and until 2013 we were upto 15 bogie trains also the timing between 2 trains was reduced upto 4 minutes. Also we were getting new generation trains made by Siemens and assembled in India
Yeh kya bheed dikha rahe ho? Bheed dekhna hai to kolkata rail me safar karo
kandiwali side jo naya line ban raha hai uske bare me ek video
Bro Do u stay in Ambernath??
Arey bhai aap Andheri market me kya kr rhe ho 😂
Ek option hai mumbai local ko double decker coach dedo (kaise hoga pata nahi par karna padega) nahi to parallel metro dedo. Aur dono line pe chahiye hoga Central aur Western
Ranjit kochar raju mawani bikramjit kanwarpal bhi acter hai
Public ko bhi chalna nahi aata 😂😂😂😂
There have many upgrades, like three phase motor coach, forced ventilation system for comfort, air springs in secondary suspension for better ride. Lightning and fans have been incresed, public address system installed, even Air-Conditioner EMU is in operation. Catering to massive population is not easy task. Keeping the trains running daily itself is a tough task, as won't get sufficient time for maintenance works for tracks and trains. Earlier it was 1500V DC, now 25000V AC. It is easy to blame. Complete change over will take very long time.
Yeaahh, verry dirty 😒
are par mandir toh banayaa na
ye sab kyu maang rahe ho
Don't worry vande metro replace the Mumbai local
First comment 😁
Nope
Should increase AC local frequency especially in peak hours....
Private kar do
There should be Separate Body for whole Mumbai Local
kolkata suburban railway network ek video chahiye ❤
Local trains have to replace as Vandey Metro ❤❤❤
Well said. Whatever facts are 100% right.
Question for your for next video - why are bicycles not allowed on Bandra Worli Sea Link, Coast Road, Eastern Freeway and Atal Setu? And what happens if someone rides on them?
What if Porsche ne teko uda diya😂
My sister lived in ambernath thane
I related to this
Naigaon bhayndar bridge banega toh bus badhegi and train pe load kam hoga
Really sad to accept the reality!