Will AI Kill Music?
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024
- Will AI Kill Music? After the release of songs such as "Heart on my Sleeve” by “Drake and The Weeknd” and other viral AI tracks, people are worried about what the future may hold. In this episode we spoke about how artists and fans are responding to the use of AI in music & whether or not we believe this new trend can kill off real music.
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I think it might be used to almost scare/pressure artists into dropping projects
You think that the AI versions will be popular enough for them to have an effect?
@@NFRPodcast maybe as the technology advances, they already sound pretty realistic so who knows how real they could become. Also just from comments I’ve seen on tiktok about the Travis Scott AI, people saying things like “we don’t even need Travis to drop the album, we can just make it ourselves”, especially considering the impact that drake x The Weeknd song has already had, who knows 🤷♂️ but I agree with the point about how people need that human connection to the song and how people buy into the persona of the artist, which the AI is unable to replicate
An even worse version of shelving it’s like we don’t need u we already have you now. Shelf ur record and put out ur ai album
Honestly, thats what I hope for... Get these lazy artist off their butts and finally make good music or drop something
@@NFRPodcast honestlysearch n rescue sounds AI to me
Honestly AI music really could kill a lot of original music if it truly blows up in its use
Both producing and writting
@@jaimes5716 you still need to make the lyrics yourself, AI isn’t writing the lyrics itself
@@jaimes5716 it won’t kill of production, have you heard ai prod? It’s fucking atrocious. People HAVE to step in to make songs actually sound like songs. Like maybe in 10 years it would, but problem is another trend will come along and because everything is NOW NOW NOW in this generation, I feel like it just won’t last in this context, could be wrong but feels like more advanced and less good trump sings atm.
@@theboy1625 It can easily. Chat gpt writtes incredible poems about whatever you want
@@theboy1625 probably the easiest part to be honest
To be fair, Heart On My Sleeve was written, produced and performed by a human, then put through an AI to make their voice sound like Drake and Weeknd
My point is, if appropriate beats are chosen and a performer who is great at imitating voices runs their vocals through AI, it's gonna be pretty impossible to tell the difference
AI can also write an original work as well if you don't know that
Just give the technology time, computing power and machine learning capabilities have been improving exponentially. Who knows what is in the works.
@@stephenokoduwa If they were good then that would have blown up and not this
@@Spectre0799 Like Sam said earlier give it time and eventually it will perform better than most writers we have right now.
i love ur mashup videos
Scary that it's really just getting started too... progressing crazy fast
Yes it is
This is a super interesting topic. I think, in a world where it's allowed and not totally shut down by legislation, AI music will slap, people will enjoy listening to it, but eventually it will make music feel hollow as it's lacking that humanity in music that makes you form an emotional attachment to it. That will either snap people out of the trend and back towards music that is made by humans, or people just won't care as long as it sounds good and it will go on to become the norm. Kids will grow up with AI music, and they won't even know what it's like to listen to music the way we do now. Of course this won't apply to everyone, but it could be the majority.
Their point about performing live is interesting. In the same way you could never have an AI perform live and enjoy that, you couldn't do it with the crowd you're jumping in either. I actually think people crave festivals and live events more as a repercussion of all our social interactions being on screens and not substantial. In the same vein, if all the music is robotic and synthetic, I think there will be even more attention drawn to the real, human art. And when AI can replicate humans the same, I don't think it should matter, because it will do what humans do and have a voice of it's own, and at that point I think we should just see it as music and enjoy it. Because it will basically be mirroring us, if the robot is so much like a human then it won't be a robotic experience, it will be a human one, just like it is today
@Sepia the AI would never perform live, but it could write and produce music for already established artists. Then that music could be performed live by said artists. As for the experience feeling human because the AI is advanced to mimic humans, people will see right through it because it's artificial, it won't feel the same. I could definitely be wrong though.
Holy shit that's scary
Already happens with AI visual art. Used to be that people were more enthusiastic about creative processes and illustration steps behind the art, while nowadays it's just "cool, nice art" on everything.
I remember few years ago i was talking with someone about AI danger and potentially replacing alot of jobs, and I remember telling him that there will always be some jobs and industries that will never work with AI because it requires a human touch and human feelings like music and acting and painting etc.
and DAMN how fucking wrong i was xD.
Drake AI's cover of Kanye's Monster: ruclips.net/video/judBymQeWhU/видео.html
AI could potientially kill mainstream music because it provide labels less hassle with disgruntled artists, etc but it wont do a damn thing to indie artists that dont depend on big budget labels and mainstream platforms
Exactly
imagine telling your label that your album isn't done and they're just like yes it is..
it was done already on a episode of big time rush for James
Xxx producer John Cunningham mentioned like a year ago that X old label (Empire) was pushing to use ai to create more x songs but John shut it down.
more artists need to speak out
There’s Pros in AI but a lot of Cons as well. I enjoyed the technology and some of the AI tracks but I’m still worried about the use of the technology. It’s super dangerous. It can give people a hard time feeling if an artist is making a new track or it’s all made up. To me it will negatively affect music no matter how good it is. People will still enjoy the tracks because of how powerful the technology is. But I just can’t support it. Also There’s been a lot of Kanye and Drake AI’s recently. Great video and take though.
Another surprising thing is the subtle or not so subtle contempt people have for artists who may lose their livelihoods to AI, and not just in music but drawing/animation/illustration etc. Despite enjoying and consuming so much artists have made, there seems to be little to no care for the creators whatsoever.
I'd like to think that AI could never produce the same type of music that humans do when they really put their soul in it
"AI could never..."
I can see where this might be going.
As a producer i think it can make like trap beats and mainstream music in the future maybe like 4 or 5 years but maybe impossible for Ai to make music like tyler the creator or jpegmafia
Y’all we’d like to believe this but it really can. We’ve seen it create such incredible visual art which we never expected.
I agree AI will never make music as good as a soul but when u look at the top ten music chart it’s all formula npc music already. A lot of mainstream music is boring and has no passion in it and are just made for tiktok hits. AI could make millions of songs like that. I hope on the bright side of it all live music will make a huge comeback
Rip computerized music...
Music in itself is still well and alive....
Musicians are going to come back to the forefront.....🎉💯 Real music is back.
Agree 100% Was about time
mannn now im gonna grow old and be one of those "bAcK iN mY dAy aRtIsTs sAnG tHeIr oWn sOnGs"
Ai cant replace an artist bro
The only thing am afraid is that some labels use AI to publish supposed unreleased songs from a death artist
That’s blasphemy
I pray they don’t do that.
They alredy do that with juice wrld unreleased music. Some leakers say that an AI song is just an unreleased one and that's fucking scary for a juice wrld fan like me.
If these labels were smart, they’d start charging monthly subscription fees to access artist’s reference vocals. This tech is only going to get more impressive, trying to fight it feels pointless. With “voice packs”, artists could charge exponentially more for live performances on top of making “passive income” by allowing up and coming artists to have access to quality vocals. On top of that, success of AI songs with someone else’s voice serves as positive marketing for the original artist after all. Idk, from my perspective it feels like everyone is panicking without seeing how this could end up being a good thing
Maybe songs would have to be greenlit, though. I wouldn't feel good about someone using my voice to sing a message I don't believe in.
I think it’ll replace pop music eventually put concept albums or experimental will not be replaced (and AI might even be used to help experiment)
I don’t know if y’all got to hear the utopia ai album but there are some tracks on it that are lowkey insane. I’ve had it on repeat for three days and it’s legit like he dropped the album
It was so good. They need to react to it!
how do i find it. think its been taken off of SoundCloud?
@@davidsoarespinto1123 it’s on band camp now, and there is a megalink file somewhere I’ll look for it
Its do damn demoralizing for artists. Could u imagine working hard on a song for months, maybe paying big bucks for a feature or a music video, all for it 2 b appreciated less than a AI generated one that took 5 mins 2 make. U could say im being over dramatic but i hav literally seen ppl say "better than the real thing".
For example imagine being A boogie wit da hoodie(not a fan of him jus a example), u hav been grinding for years and drowning was the song that blew u up & ppl admire u for....all of that immediately shadowed by a Travis Scott AI Cover of drowning which truly(im a travis stan so mite b biased) is better than the original & majority who hav listened to it r echoing that. I would retire.
The hey there Delilah juice WRLD AI had me blown away honestly. It sounds just like him like if I didn’t know it was AI I would’ve been convinced he actually made it. It’s insane how advanced things are going.
Bro the AI drake song sounded less AI than search and rescue tbh
Weren’t a fan of search and rescue?
@@NFRPodcast no don’t want drake to tell me about him American expressing his love
@@NFRPodcast still love Drake tho
Also people should be worried when the labels start using this AI about posthumous albums being created out of nothing it could get that out of hand
maybe it can begin to effect mainstream music but I know for sure people who care about music as an art form and not just a business will detest the use of AI. because at the end of the day, it is an art form and the music produced by humans has passion and intent that ai can't replicate. even down to artists themselves, the story behind artists draws people in (artists like panchiko) and ai won't draw fans into the artists to begin with
how do you know MC Ride isnt an AI
Labels might actually buy ai and find ai music because it’s more money for them. Many labels are money hungry and a ai blowing up will give them 100% of their royalties
Big Tech just found a way to use software and algorithms to steal bits of music and art, and then "mash" them together..
That stops a copyright issue - which also stops the creation and sales for legitimate artists..
I dont really care about the artists behind the music, I just want a good song. Why would I care about what they wear or how they act, just give me a good song period.
Sounds like ur describing a teenager who got their room full of posters of their favorite artists, someone who gets really obsessive with their music and really identifies with it. As an adult I left those years behind because I got other issues
I think you're right we will probably have to "adapt" to the fact that artist are going to be using this but I don't think we have to or should "embrace" it because of what it takes away from organic creative process that is fueled by the human experience. However this being said, to play devils advocate, the same argument can be made against something like sampling since you are using elements that are not original. Therefore, I think it depends on how extensively the AI is used in the song writing process for whether or not it should be "embraced"
I loved you guys for talking about this topic !! It’s a major issue in music and really kind of scary because it’s continuing to grow and many variations and it kinda ruins the originality of the music and a major plagiarism and using likeness of and artist could cause lawsuits
I think the covers are a fun novelty rn, I think just about everyone has clicked on one out of curiosity when it's recommended on YT, but I'm sure that fascination will pass, so I'm not really worried about that aspect. To me, the covers are all fun and games, it's when you get to the original songs in others' voices that it gets serious. And also, at what point do you think songwriting/producing in that way will become an "art form," much like AI art has? I agree tho, for songwriters this could be an important and revolutionary tool, for potentially the positive, it's just a slippery slope
I think it's easy to replicate a lot of rappers not just Drake because anyone can rap. Now I will be impressed if AI can do a good R&B singer song.
One argument i have against the labels is: if a real person sounds like drake/abel, should labels allowed to remove those songs? Not totally the same as AI (which is chopping up copyrighted vocals) just an interesting comparison imo
In my opinion its just like usual products. You can buy a chocolate straight from the fabric line but that handmade one just has more quality, soul and hits different. I mean it just tastes better automatically
How do yall constantly come up with fire ideas!!
I feel like there are lots of artists who it would be impossible to replicate in the most authentic way. People like Kendrick, Tyler, Denzel, Carti where a big part of their identity is their vision and ability innovate in ways that no one else could predict. But those big vision artists aren't really the biggest cultural forces compared to mega pop artists that have a less experimental style like Drake, Taylor Swift, Harry Styles, etc. If the biggest artists are easier to replicate, it could have an inadvertent effect on the rest of the industry even if lots of artists will always be distinct.
Lil uzi ai cover of codeine crazy is fucking scary and fire at the same time, like it sounds like 2016 uzi wtf.
Greetings from Greece! I am so worried about all the points stressed here. The new generations probably won't even care much like they don't care if most of the music that is popular goes through an auto tune process.
Definitely has been a hot topic within the music industry seeing big titans like UMG trying to have streaming service's like Spotify and Apple Music from AI developer's having access artist catalogue's. I think this is the 2020s version of when Napster and Limewire were poplar and it shook the music industry. But personally I think the biggest statement that has been saying is that AI is only good at replicating and not creating, yes there is Chat GPT creating stuff but the AI is only going to go off of per existing material that you are providing it. But the only area I can see that will effect the fan's is when a artist unfortunately passes away and those same record label's use it to create new song's to try to profit off the death of the artist. NFR always love the content and the discussions around the music. #NFR4Life
True, but what I am worried is if it will go out of the database and connect the dots from other sources. What I mean is, let's say I want to create a very personal and story telling type rap song from kendrick. the ai then goes and finds a podcast where kdot is talking about his dad and top dawg and ends up creating a track like Duckworth. To put it accurately, here are some words that a person remarked when they used GPT 4 "It's going to find multidisciplinary solutions to things that people just don't realize. It can grab two disparate concepts from two different fields and understand how they might glue together. In seconds."
I think that in the future people who arent big artist will sell their voice for artist who aren't as confident with their own voice and you'd just feed the ai a reference track too which could be a good use for it I think certain aspects of the ai stuff is a novelty but I can definitely see it being used in some of the ways yall said
Agree, along with other factors the voice is a Instrument. Wont be long until we get some cool vocal synth/neural net samplers out of this. With consenting artists that it is trained on getting a royalty, blend modes and timbre controls. As someone who can write but doesn't like the timbre of their voice this could open up interesting creative possibilities. While not as authentic as the artist original voice alot of the emotion is kept. What makes all these ai covers good is that elements of the original performance like phrasing and musicality is kept from the original accapella.
Guillermo is gonna take over music
😂😂
I think in terms of ai, the covers are cool to see what certain people would sound like on certain tracks, or even just for the meme. But using ai to make original music that the artist didn't consent to is wack and shady
I weirdly am not against AI music. AI music has yet to recreate the most creative of artists without it sounding bad. meanwhile, they can automate new Drake songs every week because his recent music has been objectively boring. notice how AI cant automates the old drake but can with the new drake sound. because old drake was new and refreshing and creative.
Interesting take!
you must not have heard the Utop-AI travis album then
Shit vocalids are huge in Japan so I wouldn't be surprised it AI music became huge
One problem that this has is it doesn't have any consent from the real voices. It used the fame of the real artists and created a song in their name. AI just ruined music for me, it will be hard now to know if it's AI or not. Images from generative AIs like Bluewillow are also now hard to know especially if you're not that much aware of AI inconsistencies.
Most mainstream music might as well already be AI generated.
Nothing you hear on any Spotify charts or whatever has any soul or actual artistic expression. It's all cynically calculated boardroom sludge. Marketing exercises to maximize returns on investments. It's a formulaic, "solved" product that is designed for mass consumption. The human faces that get stuck on it are completely interchangeable. So ... how exactly would AI make that any worse?
I Agree, most MFs sound the same anyway
Uzis cover of Codeine Crazy was way too good, AI might just takeover the industry.
What ppl don't realize is that the actual music is only a small portion of the music industry. The mass majority of profits comes from concert performances, endorsements, merchandise. Things an AI can't do.
Love the videos lads!
Normally, i would be all for new technology and new strides in music making. But unfortunately, i just cant trust the music industry, label execs and artist managers to do the right thing. In our digital age, being able to authenticate real vs fake is already a problem. Imagine how much more of a problem that will be when any random person can make any type of song, let alone a powerful, rich person. We already know how cut throat the music industry is with contracts, giving credit and paying fairly. Unless serious rules are put in place, i dont see how any of this can solve any of those problems, let alone not create new ones.
That Sounded like the most enthusiastic Drake I’ve heard in a while 😂😂😂
i think it might let real artist experiment a lot of more stuff and let the ai make some like popular type music and bangers. It could be actually cool and something that will really create an evolution in music
I’ll never stream AI music and I hope others are in the same camp. I can’t be listening to original music written by someone being performed by AI artists, it’s exploitative in the extreme although I do like the funny covers on RUclips like Kanye and Drake doing WAP or something
Do you think there will be a big demand for ai music?
@@NFRPodcast can’t really see it tbh unless it gets to a stage where it sounds like the real thing and good writers and producers start making the songs but tbh it could do numbers still as it is right now because some people just have terrible taste, that’s why NBA Youngboy or on the other end of the spectrum Ed Sheeran are as big as they are making terrible music
I hope not tbh
Honestly since I can’t wait to see this take to court this shouldn’t be a thing
The answer is No
Drake AI - Winters Cold
I know that AI is mimicking real artists, but a lot of songs are heavily auto-tuned. Or music also just created on computers without any real instrument. I guess you could say that this is also a progression in the technology and automated. But the bad thing other than 'stealing' an artist's identity using their voice, is the loss of the organic material. Be it in art with creatives using image generators like Bluewillow AI, etc. or in music, or any art.
Artificial intelligence cannot replace Larry Graham, Stanley Clarke, Jaco Pasterius...
All it can do is sample music and mash things together to create "its" version of a song.
It's the end of an Era. Ai artist will start popping up everywhere
Songs will need verification check marks to be able to identify which ones are released by the real artist
I don’t think it’s a real threat to creativity, if you think about it there’s been a formulaic approach to pop songs for years without AI that doesn’t involve a lot of creativity and while those generic recycled pop songs get played on the radio, they never replaced talented musicians. So I think ai is impressive but it’s not going to produce something better than the talented artists themselves
It’s cool thing but think it’s ruining real music especially for artists who are in the studio grinding and putting together amazing music and now people can just got online and put together stuff that isn’t real
But right now, what AI is lacking is originality and i pray that it's gonna stay that way
What did Bob Marley say, “It’s the the feelin mahn. They don’t have the feeling”
Listened to Utop-AI and it’s actually incredible icl
Yooo guys I made winters cold. Been a fan from the beginning
AI Music will blow up for a while but we'll very quickly get bored of generic AI songs- Just like we got hyped about VR but then realised real life is better and no technology can replace real life.
We creating something that can eventually simulate everything that we do, even live performances and human interaction as mentioned in this video.
The audience is human( for now.)
The real question is does pre knowledge of weather the source was human or AI effect how we consume the art?
let him talk dude, also it’s not a robot rapping, think of it like this, some random person raps the words, then the ai mask there voice like a voice changer.
Will I Am spoke about using AI in 2013… pretty sure most artist ( mainstream ) using AI. Most songs sound the same
Everyone would like to think that AI won’t take over music but I genuinely feel like it will even if you raise the point about actual human connections you could literally give the AI a shell of a body such as these robots snd give the robot no purpose other than to make the AI generated songs
I hope live music makes a comeback
I don't believe AI could replace real artists ( atleast for now) because AI covers for now suck and they feel fake and you can tell its not the real person singing. If AI will improve maybe it could happen, but for now its unlikely to happen
It is improving almost exponentialy… In a year you will not be able to tell the difference
no.
pls can you guys do a top 10 future songs video 🙏
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I'm just finding out about the AI drake and weeknd song. I legit thought it was them
I think the real concern may come with these snippets having shots towards other artists. People could literally fabricate beefs through these AI tracks if they sound convincing enough, or even do straight up malicious things outside of music like making artists say things they never said but claim they said it. That’s just how I feel though, who knows if this will ever became a real problem.
I was just thinking this, especially since anything you say now is offensive nowadays, especially like you said if it sounds convincing enough
2pac was so frustrated when he heard "Who shot ya?" imagine nowadays disses with Al
the thumbnail of this video is unreal 💀
People feel to realize that all of this lies in their hands we all have control if we don't want it to take over it won't if we still support regular normal music
AI will kill the Lils and the other trash rappers that just make cliche materialistic music w/ a strong beat. US will have to/need to implement legislation to copyright your voice.
rap more like crap, music was better when john lennon was beating his wife
aw man this sort of a loaded question, just because AI was raised in the hood..🎼
idc how real it gets i'll never listen to ai unless I am completely unaware
Former Google X, Mr. Gawdat says that soon, Ai will see us as bugs. Ai will be looking at us as though we are scummy ants, LoL. I believe that.
ANthony need a hiarcut ASAP
AI might ruin the future a bit, but idk. We’ll see what happens
I'm more scared about A.I. taking over music production😅
If they could use all the data on spotify, im sure its possible, just like they did with image generation. But HOLY SHIT that would cause SO MANY lawsuits.
Scary thing will be ai making music videos. For the music it makes.
Now I have to wonder if a leak is a leak, or ai
It's sad fr
Artists will just have to make music so good an AI can't replicate it 🤷♂️
this is gonna be a problem
The people in the comments on that Get Lucky Michael Jackson video are tweaking. That shit sounded horrible
Heart on my leave is fire tho
They baked every video 💀
AI music can replace anyone nowadays
Plot twist: this is actually Drake and the weekend. They labelled it as 'Ai' so that the label doesn't eat off their work.
Actually I believe AI voices can be used as another musical instrument for people who can't sing. Like Autotune but now we'll be able to create a whole full singer in the studio. Could that put people out of a job? Yeah. But the amount of jobs in this world doesn't have to decrease unless people in government are dumb.
Nah AI ain't nothing bro most of our original artist are trash these days so for AI to emulate trash shouldn't be considered a threat, and if your understand the procedure behind an AI song you'll understand it ain't a big deal
Ain't no way this shit won't become illegal
The single greatest thing humanity has ever made is AI Jarmiroquai singing "dancing, walking, rearranging furniture"