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You've kind of become a Disney review channel. We get it. Disney is stupid. Can we move on to more interesting cinema now? Maybe talk about Bone Tomahawk. Or discuss Midnight Express. Or how about The Big Hit? Biloxi Blues? The Fan? Freddy Got Fingered? Training Day? A nightmare on elm street? Sniper? Blair Witch 2? Anything is better than hearing you whine about Disney video after video.
In the live action Toy Story reimagining, Sid develops a thirst for revenge against toys after his dad is killed by a box of toys falling onto his head at his factory job.
Between “there was no plan for the Star Wars sequel trilogy” and “Cruella’s tragic backstory is that Dalmatians killed her mother”, I hope every indie creator who has ever experienced self-doubt over their storytelling skills and/or professional competency is feeling very reassured.
I really am. I have kept a lot of books a secret not even allowing my husband to read them much to his frustration, but there seems to be a plague of terrible story making that leaves me feeling perhaps I am wrong for keeping an "ok" story from even my husband until I feel like it is at least good.
Literally why I started writing and publishing my own sci-fi novels. That and the cynicism of "if we can't take care of earth, we shouldn't go anywhere else" which totally ignored how environmental technology boomed after the space-race. I figure I can't do worse than Lightyear.
You know they had a committee of writers who sat for hours around a conference table eating Panera Bread trying to figure out what made Cruella so evil. I mean she wants to kill puppies for their fur, does it really need a backstory?
@@tankerd1847 No, it didn't. And their reasoning for Cruella wanting the dogs's fur for the sake of revenge is some of the cringiest, bottom-of-the-barrel storytelling which is so prevalent in the writer's rooms these days. It's actually another story that Once Upon a Time did much better; and Cruella's reason for doing what she did was the simplest and vest explanation you could give to a character like her: she's just a bad person. What other reason do you need than that? Short, sweet, and to the point.
Disney made the mistake of trying to make it an antihero movie, when what they really should've done is to make it a "villain's journey" movie where young and idealistic girl eventually turns into an irredeemable monster. Thats why people praise Breaking Bad and Joker, they become genuinely bad people in the end, it doesn't get sugarcoated nor does the stories give any excuses for the protagonists.
It's because Cruella is a woman and the protagonists of Joker amd Breaking Bad are men. People, including the audiences who watch these movies and the people who make them, are uncomfortable with a movie or other piece of media taking a woman to rock bottom the way Joker does, only to have her rise as the villain. Authors and movie makers flinch at the prospect of tearing a female character down until she has nothing left, so they almost always pull a few of the worst punches. Even when those same authors and movie makers wouldn't flinch at doing the same to a male character.
@@5h0rgunn45 interesting I don’t think I’d be uncomfortable with that, everyone starts somewhere and if that means starting at the lowest of lows a few times then so be it. Everyone has been there. And she kind of did hit “rock bottom” in the movie but obviously that didn’t make her evil. It made her love the dogs that killed her fake mom 😂😂
Will they now also make a prequel about the Baroness and how she really wasn’t evil, but had a tragic childhood that made her that way? Why can’t we just have normal villains? Cruella, daughter of some upper class douches, who always lived a privileged life and wants more and more power as she grows up. And she won’t stop even if it means killing puppies.
@@thingfish000 It can work like in the case of Joker. But they wrote him in a tragedy where he embraces being a clown and villain to society, not as some antihero like Cruella.
- Is named "Maleficent" - turns out to have been misblamed and tortured and actually cares for the heroine. - Is named "Cruella" - turns out to have been mistreated and had her mother killed by dalmatians. Can't wait for the Snow White adaptation, where the villain literally named "Evil Queen" will turn out to be a misunderstood mirror maker whose mother was killed by a snow avalanche or some bullshit like that.
“Her mother was killed by evil Dalmatians” That’s so stupid I can’t even process it. Edit: having watched the movie, I actually kinda enjoyed it but this plot point is still stupid
This movie was SO obvious in its intent. After the crazy success of Joker, this was Disney's attempt to cash in by doing basically the same thing with a female villain.
@@Mr.Ekshin You see the key difference that Disney missed is that by the end of joker you are supposed to understand joker, you are not supposed to like joker.
The evil dalmations thing killed me. The worst writing of all time. "How do we make the dogs the villains so it is okay she wants to turn them into fur coats later?". Disney has some hacks for sure.
In one of my writing books, it said to never kill off the pets, people will hate you. They leveraged that in John Wick to make the audience hate the villain. But I think there should be a corollary: Never make the dogs the villains.
@Macky Mark Same here. She seems like an at least alright person irl but she seems stuck doing these male hating projects lately. Her upcoming Yorgos Lanthimos film is the same man hating BS her last two films were. I guess go where the money is but still. She's better than that.
She's certainly is a good looking 32. The women I know who are almost the same age, my own girlfriend include, (34) are looking the age they have. Maybe because it's very cold and dark here and it's not exactly florida or california and it wear people before their time but she's good looking and have more charisma than the bland actresses that Disney usually choose (ginger plank of wood)
This movie confuses the hell out of me. Knowing the character's history I'm not sure how the writers expected to create a tragically flawed, yet sympathetic character that people could "relate" to when said character has a history of murdering puppies, for fun. Makes me wonder if the writer's have a history of murdering puppies themselves.
"Because in this world fashion designers are so powerful they can orchestrate murders, manipulate police and local officials, and act like political officials in their own right" Ah, so this takes place in the Zoolander cinematic universe
To this day, one of my favorite parts is David Duchovny as the World's Greatest Hand Model. "A finger jockey. We don't think the the same as the face and body boys; we're a whole different breed."
Joker is a tragic film about a man going mad and becoming a monster. Through basically the whole third act you are hoping to see some kind of better ending, or at least someone stopping Arthur before he hurts any more people. Cruella is a power fantasy about how a woman carves out a place of power in the world by becoming the very monster she fought against.
It’s amazing how Disney forgot in the original she was not even a fashion designer. Just a wealthy woman who dressed nicely. Even in 101 Dalmatians 2 she refers to herself as “as over-financed heiress”
They didn't forget, it's just that the tragic backstory cannot work with loads of wealth. They cannot have a hero who's rich and evil, so they changed it all.
I just have to say that I hate that they turn Cruella into some kind of outcast. She is pretty clearly a queen bee type in the original -- the leader of the pack that no one should question. In fact, it seems like Anita was only her friend because it was much easier than being against her.
They try *so hard* to make her confident and smart, but she comes off arrogant and immature. It’s so annoying to see someone justify bad actions as “it’s not my fault, other people say mean things to me🥺”
Unpopular Opinion: The whole “misunderstood antihero” trope is getting annoying and overused. Not every antagonist needs a sad backstory. Some people are just evil. Plain and simple.
And at the very least, if a writer is going to try adding a sad backstory for an iconic villain, one should keep these in mind: 1.) Understand how much the audience should reasonably sympathize with the character, at each individual moment. 2.) Provide a backstory that could logically lead to someone becoming that type of villain. And do not undermine the villain’s sense of agency, by only having the character’s circumstances heavily factor in and not also the character’s own decisions/flaws. 3.) Make the sure the backstory adds to a character’s complexity, rather than consuming the character to the point of “Flanderization”. 4.) When the character becomes that iconic villain, be sure to maintain some of that same appeal, charisma, menace, etc. which made the villain great in the first place. 5.) In general, actually tell an interesting story in the process.
Do what I do, don't buy into anything Disney directly/indirectly. Stop giving them money and they might just loose enough market share to fire some people.
That is exactly the idea you would get for cruellas backstory if an extremely out of touch idiot put exactly 5 seconds of thought into it and slapped it into a move for money. And look it exists! AND PEOPLE WILL WATCH IT AND GO HUH THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD CAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING STUPID FHJKASDFHJKLHJKLASDFHJKLDFADSF queue 1000 more of these garbage films i hate all of you film is dead
@@JosephArata Yes I am the same. I am lucky in a way because my kids were never that interested in Disney movies and I am not that interested in any Disney properties. I liked Star Wars back in 1977 but the Prequels made it somewhat lame and I just decided I didn't need more of that universe.
Disney Executive: Which one of our classic villains should we give a sympathetic POV? Disney employee 1: How about someone who wasn't that evil in the source material like Hades? Disney Executive: No Disney employee 2: How about someone who was arguably worse in the source material? Disney Executive: GENIUS! The moral of the story is don't use the cocaine before a board meeting
you know, i once watched this thing called Twisted, the Untold Story of a royal vizzier. it was a play that told the supposed real story of Jafar from Aladdin. and it was perfect. it had excellent comedy and excellent tearjerking moments and in one of the song, a bunch of other disney villains appeared, all telling how the true story was wrong and how they were actually tragic, like Ursula wanting for equality for everyone but being usurped from the throne by the king guy (dont remmeber the name), Gaston actually loving Belle for who she was and wanting to rescue her because he thought she was in actual danger, Captain Hook just wanting to teach peter pan responsability so that he wouldnt end up like him, Scar wanting equality for both the lions and the hyenas and when cruella went, she said that she just wanted a coat full of puppies and everyone boo her out and disney literally thought they could made her a sympathetic character
It's ironic. The original film was kind of a critique of the fashion industry and these shallow, fashion-worshipping fashionistas. But the remake wallows in the fashion industry.
You can't really expect modern screenwriters and studios to actually understand the themes and messages of the much better stories they attempt to cannibalize. That would require actual effort and intelligence.
So...having Cruella tumble out the back of a garbage truck wearing a dress made of trash is supposed to be part of a triumphant montage displaying her super-totes-amazing fashion design skills? Because back in 2001 when _Zoolander_ showed us 'Derelicte,' we were supposed to be _laughing_ at the idea of literal garbage being glamorized as high fashion.
Didnt Cindy Lauper do this in the 80s with garbage, like literal garbage clothes? I only found it memorable because of a skirt made from shredded newspapers. And yeah...rain...or just...I mean..shredded anything. Maybe I was watching to much pr1n at the time. Seemed like a plot device for some...never mind. But still...trash.
That's because Zoolander is actually a legitimately brilliant comedy, a genuine high water mark for a lot of reasons, that had the great misfortune to come out right around September 11 2001 and not really get the recognition it deserved.
@@snowyrabbitofinle1764 Would you care to explain why using animal skin for clothing is considered pure evil now? It's wrong for sure. But this doesn't deter people who still insist on eating meat every single day. Even as a vegan myself, I don't see a reason to abhor the idea. Not to mention, there isn't a single dog being harmed in this movie.
@@debott4538 Why should I have to explain it? I should be 100% obvious. And even without, the implications of dog-killing, there's still nothing to like about the movie because it fails on every aspect possible.
I have feelings that people are just gonna look past the fact that cruella is a horrible person who threatened a couple and then kidnapped their puppies to skin them and turn them into coats, but it's fine she's an ambitious strong female character she can do whatever she wants.
One thing I didn’t get about this movie is the timeline. The original story, both movie and the book takes place in the 1950’s. Meaning Cruella at age twenty, would have been around the 1920’s if not earlier. The whole this takes place in 1970’s angle felt more like a nostalgia grab at retro 70’s rock, rather than continuity.
What about the live action 101 Dalmatians? Much as I didn't like that film, it's the universe Cruella probably belongs to. Seems like it was more modern than the original animated movie, but I can't be sure because I remember so little of it.
@@Zara-Bari A majority of all incarcerations of Cruella is based from the original. I know what you’re saying, but this day of age is just nostalgia grabs.
@@Brody400 No denying that, just I don't remember when the live action film was set because I don't remember anything about it. Offhand, I'd assume it was set in the then modern time of the 90s. The timeline maybe still doesn't fit, but the 70s would at least have occurred before the movie. But I don't know, because I don't remember it.
There is a clearer way to describe the difference between Cruella and Joker: Joker didn't try to make him a hero. He is simply the protagonist in a tragedy.
One could also think of Magneto and X-Men First Class, and how he basically became the man that killed his mother at the end. The thing is Erik Lehnsherr has never been a full out villain, but a social leader who will do anything, by any means necessary, to protect his kind. Just like Malcolm X.
Cruella wasnt shown to be the hero either tho. She thought of skinning dogs coz she thought their fur would make a good coat , she is evil , just like the original , she just didn't start killing puppies in this one, this is before that happened
At this point, Disney may make a movie on how the Evil Queen from Snow White hates fair people because a fair person killed her mom. So now the only the Evil Queen is allowed to be the fairest person of all.
I hope they make a prequel to the lion king showing mufasa physically and mentaly abusing scar throughout their childhood and getting away with it. Fuck simba and his father. It'll show em. But sadly scar is a male lion so we'll might have to wait a couple of decades for this storyline to get made into a movie.
Everyone that works with me keeps going on about how awesome a movie Cruella is, and I keep explaining to them that a puppy killer is not a good female role model. Then I tell them to watch Alita Battle Angel instead. Then they call me an idiot.
@@jellyfishi_ Yeah I liked Joker, but as you said Joker is really just the title. I hardly consider it a comicbook character movie, the movie could have been titled anything tbh.
I'm waiting for a disney movie called "Adolf" which is the backstory of a german child in 1900s who has been bullied in highschool and is facing depression and learns to empower his flaws and becomes the leader of Germany.
Imagine if cruela ended up losing all of her friends and having nothing left but a bunch of yes men encouraging her behavior. That would've been cooler than what we got
Fittingly, the 1996 remake shows something similar at the beginning of the movie. A bunch of employees afraid of her and afraid to question her decisions.
@@MariusWales yeah but Cruella didn't hate the dogs that murdered her "mother". She let them live with her. They went to her funeral, and moved in with her into the mansion. They even hung around long enough to have puppies
Ah, yes, the pop punk movement, when people vapidly searched for the "right brand of safety pins" to stick in their clothing because those who were originally - and derisively - labled punks did it to hold their clothes together because they couldn't afford a new jacket. Actually appropriate for this film.
Cruella hating Dalmatians because they throw her mom off a cliff is one of the funniest things I’ve heard in my life, Disney really puts no effort on their products now.
I didn't watch a movie yet. But I had hearded even stranger thing's. Or to put it better, that even tho she supousydly "hated" dalmation's. She gived two of them to Anita, and Roger. And those Dalmation's where sibling's. And if this film is somehow an "prequel" to the original story, you known what that mean's.
Goodiesfeats Remember that it’s the same company that made Fantasia, the original Dalmatians movie, Alice in Wonderland, Snow White, Bambi, the Lion King, etc.
Yet apparently her hatred of dalmatians never comes up again... meaning this absolutely bonkers attempt at a sympathetic motivation was created for nothing
The beginning of the video made me think about the Loki series and how my expectations were so low and how I knew with every fiber of my being this show was going to be subpar just like the rest of the Marvel series. But ended up proving me wrong. It’s been so long since I’ve felt absolute bliss watching a show. ESPECIALLY something made by Disney.
I didn’t watch the Loki show because of the weird romance between him and his female version and the fact they made him gender-fluid because he can transform into any person and manipulate people.
We all know why Disney made this movie: they needed a Harley Quinn, so they tried to make Cruella a Harley Quinn like character, but it just doen't work like that.
You're right, as a few others have also glommed. They even went as far as getting the nearest thing to Margot Robbie they could find, in the form of Emma Stone, and managing to completely blind-side themselves to the stunningly bad casting choice in the process. What utter morons must be running the show in show biz now.
It's like unnecessary prequel movies are cursed to overexplain every little character quirk we've seen in the original movie. Bonus points if the explanation doesn't actually make sense (Cartoon Cruella only wanted to kill the puppies because they'd make for a nice coat; that's it, really).
She doesn't even blame the dalmatians though (blames herself for provoking & leading them to her mother). Not to mention later on it's revealed that it was actually the Baroness character who set the dalmatians on her mom with a dog whistle. Y'all just blindly hating for the sake of it.
As usual you nailed it. I dont know how youre able to sit thru all these shitshows but we appreciate ya takin one for the team. 99% of studio films are the same crap. I want to be entertained not lectured to.
And it is a very dumb reason like if she died by Dalmatians bite then it would make much sense but still a dumb reason mainly for she used them as a f*cking coat like wtf
This movie could have worked if it weren't a cruella movie. Cruella is an interesting character, but what was shown in this movie wasn't the cruella we knew and loved, it just uses it's name and clothes to make it marketable. If they didn't try so hard to make cruella the main character, this could have worked alright. Also, no fur plotline? How could you take out one of the most defining pieces of a character and expect people to not feel alienated?
When I heard that Cruella’s mom was pushed off a cliff by Dalmatians I thought it was a parody. I’m still trying to pick my jaw up off the floor after that clip.
Worst part about it is that she only pretends to make a coat out of the 3 adult dalmatians. So adult dogs kill her mom, not enough for her to use them to make a coat. Yet she has no problem using a hundred puppies to make one. That doesn't make any sense. In the original she clearly just was a heartless fur coat lover, didn't needed more than that to make it a good movie with a good villain.
The part where Cruella jokes about turning the Dalmatian into a coat made the audience of my function clapp like wtf should I feel good about animal abuse?
This whole film and idea behind it is like a sarcastic idea that has gone too far... like in that one South Park episode Mother killed by dalmatians = Grows up to kill & skin dalmatians Hollywood has broken through the bottom of the barrel and hit bedrock
@@margarethmichelina5146 Joker isn't the same at all. He's never touted as being a hero in the movie, he just cracks under the weight of everything and lashes back at society for the way it is. There's nothing heroic about it. Nor does he "get ahead in life", his life spirals into madness. You don't "get ahead in life" by murdering people on public television because you've lost your sanity.
@@margarethmichelina5146 Yeah. Because nothing says "I made it!" quite like being locked up in a mental institution and killing your mother, your idol, and your psychiatrist at the end of the movie.....
It wasn’t just Dalmatians that made her crazy for fur. She was obsessed with skinning rare or endangered species. Hence the white tiger in the first live action. And one design lead her to wanting to skin puppies for a fur coat. She moved from endangered exotic animals to domestic animals which became a scarier twist to her personality. This film shows non of that…
An OBVIOUS attempt at a cash grab. After the crazy success of 'Joker', this was Disney's attempt to cash in by doing basically the same thing, but with a female villain.
3:38 okay, but _Project Runway_ with extra murder sounds like a really fun premise, _if_ that's what the story's about, _and_ you can take the gloves off and actually have people killed and not be a prequel to a Disney movie
At least you weren't disappointed with this movie. You went in with low expectations and came out with all those expectations met. That's the nicest thing I've heard you say about a "disney remake"... Does this count as a disney remake? It's more of a prequel to a 1996 live-action remake (which undoubtedly, Disney had forgotten about and will soon remake again).
Next up: Disney's 'Lil' Adolph!' - the delightful tale of the adorable baby Hitler, misunderstood, fiercely fabulous and ready to turn up the burners of justice!
(For the love of God read this as sarcastic) Don't forget the Jewish man who makes fun of his artwork and probably kills his parents to justify Adolf's actions
That's not even her mom. Cruella's mom is the Baroness. So, the whole point the Critical Drinker made about us trying to cheer on Cruella became moot upon the plot twist. She was born evil. The movie is a mix between Maleficent, Bird of Prey, and Joker. In the end, it's Disney mining another IP. The writers realized how stupid Cruella is, hence the plot twist. You're trying to get the audience to care about a woman, whose sole obssession was to kill Dalmations to make coats out of them. They know it's stupid, we know it's stupid. I could rant on, but I'm not.
Speaking of the original version of Disney’s 101 Dalmatians; the backgrounds of that movie have this really endearing quirkiness to them. Something about the color palette and quality reminds me of the illustrations Quentin Blake did for Roald Dahl’s books. I remember seeing somewhere that the artists on Disney’s Big Hero 6 used the backgrounds of 101 Dalmatians as inspiration for the aesthetic of Big Hero 6, and I think it was to BH6’s benefit that they did, as that movie also has beautiful scenery and design. Kinda makes me wish we got another BH6 honestly.
Some quotes from The Atlantic article "The Cowardice of Cruella ." "The new Disney film could have embraced villainy, in all its complications. Instead, it opts for a cheaper sort of sympathy." "The whole thing can read... as a game of corporate-feminist Mad Libs" "Disney has given us an allegedly punk antihero whose defining goal is to be respected within the establishment." "The film embraces the glib condescension of the idea that every villain must be, somehow, misunderstood-that a woman can’t be purely evil, that she must have a softer side, that her currency is her beguiling relatability." "I longed for the classic Cruella: vain, vapid, willing to kill puppies, and never feeling the need to explain herself."
The Atlantic? The Atlantic is worth the paper it's printed on. (I'm hoping it doesn't have a print version. Meaning it would be worth nothing, since it doesn't use paper.)
Why can’t people just enjoy a movie and move the fuck on. This movie doesn’t embrace the idea every villain must be misunderstood. The baroness is one of the most ruthless and heartless villain I’ve seen in awhile from Disney. Some people just want to trash everything
The other day I watched the 1950s Disney movie Third Man On The Mountain where it's celebrated European history and was wholesome and nice and even though that was long before my time on this planet, it made me wish that I lived back then. Walt Disney must be rolling in his grave at what has become of his baby.
@@cindyl2444 Why, of course not; I just have an extreme prejudice against those that, while human, do not deserve to be counted as people and woud best be descrbed as subpeople - such as yourself.
What is with this Disney obsession with justifying or redeeming their female villains? They’re bad people, period. End of story. Their being women has nothing to do with their villainy, their choices as people do.
But women are always the victim.. at least that's what the media have been force feeding everyone for years now... I'm surprised it wasn't a white male in a dalmatian costume that was the real villain.
Because a white woman (the most empowered being in the history of earth) can't be shown as wholly evil. There must be a "reason" It's society's fault. It's her parents fault. Never her own decision.
The Disney Villains are popular. They have merchandise and their own branding. People are legit fans of them. Hell, *I* like them. I'm not rooting for the villain to win, but they're always the most fun character in their movies. Disney wants to mine that for IP, but they can't bring themselves to do a movie from the villain's point of view. They could never do a Joker. So they try to switch it up so the villain is actually the misunderstood hero... However, NOBODY LIKES THE VILLAINS BECAUSE THEY'RE MISUNDERSTOOD HEROES. They like the villains BECAUSE THEY'RE VILLAINS. Nobody wanted the story of Sleeping Beauty to be "opposite day" where Maleficent was actually the hero. Maleficent is cool BECAUSE she's evil. We wanted the story of why she's so evil, not why really she's the good guy.
Cruella could’ve been an amazing negative story arc character. Started like a villain and ended as a villain, with a small chance of redemption midway through the film but threw it all away to become a monster instead. Joker it is not, but it could’ve been.
I'm not a Disney fan to begin with, and I've had less than zero interest in whatever this movie was, but the hype had me curious about what it was even about. So my hero The Drinker has once again saved me from wasting time on trying to watch it, while simultaneously breaking down the gist of it. Once again I raise a toast to The Drinker for taking one for the team.
"Sir, Cruella is literally a villain that wants to kill puppies. How can we make that sympathetic?" "Easy. We show a scene where evil puppies murder her helpless mother." Just when you think Disney's potential for absurdity has been reached, they take it further.
You talk about this story element as if it wasn't meant to be an absurd, tongue-in-cheek joke... It's funny and it's a great reminder that the movie is not to be taken seriously, it is just an excuse to let Emma Stone go glam-punk rock crazy. People are watching and enjoying this movie for her performance and the outrageous fashion. The experience is working for basically everyone who isn't a nerdy fanboy crying about woke culture
@@allenallen9879 What the fuck are you talking about? In the movie she never hurt the dogs, once again, she saved two puppies from the one dalmatian that was pregnant.
Lost my shit when the dalmatians knocked her mother off a cliff XD No level of farce is off limits when it comes to rescuing our Hollywood wahmen from society’s judgement apparently. The laziest of lazy antihero justifications, with a little classism mixed in for good measure
I remember having nightmares about cruella as a child. She was a brilliant and timeless villain. Now she is a little woman that likes dresses. Thanks disney for making a movie that makes me fall asleep.
“Because apparently in this world fashion designers are so powerful they can orchestrate murders and manipulate police and local officials” Zoolander prequel confirmed?
Fuck they could have done that with Ursula. Whole big family conflict between her and triton that leads to her banishment and subsequent revenge. Would have worked way better than the villain who just likes furs.
That's what I was thinking the whole time a women who is pushed around and hates her boss has a big personality change and makeover and goes on a crime spree. I was like this feels like joker months ago.
@@whitemoonwolf13 An Ursula movie would also have the added benefit of being prime material for a black female lead. You have a good story there, on top of the diversity quota lol
The thing is, they have such poor understanding as to WHY the Joker is a villain, not by what he does, but the reason behind it, in that he's trying to get Batman to break his rule by embodying Chaos, while Bats embodies Order. But no, they see a man wearing makeup, killing people, and laughing, and their single digit IQs go "Huh, man kill man make good movie character."
"I mean, that's not what happened here, but I imagine it's nice when it happens." I started laughing at the exact same time as the clip from 5th Element. This made me laugh even harder.
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You made the plot sound F*cking amazing mate....🤣 I might watch this piece of Sh*t
@Ethan Xander YEAH! DR PEPPER!!!
See? This is why I don't bother watching shit like this movie. But I have a ball watching audience reviews of those who made that God awful mistake. 😜
You've kind of become a Disney review channel.
We get it. Disney is stupid.
Can we move on to more interesting cinema now?
Maybe talk about Bone Tomahawk.
Or discuss Midnight Express.
Or how about The Big Hit?
Biloxi Blues?
The Fan?
Freddy Got Fingered?
Training Day?
A nightmare on elm street?
Sniper?
Blair Witch 2?
Anything is better than hearing you whine about Disney video after video.
Cruella’s mom being killed by Dalmatians is like having a Gaston movie where his parents are killed by furries.
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Fucking
Make
That
Movie
Why are we not funding this?!?
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic he's a male lol. Disney would never make a movie that paints men as actual human beings
Don't say that so loud, Disney might hear you!
Why does Cruella hate Dalmatians?
“A Dalmatian drop kicked her mom off a cliff.” - Highly paid Disney writer.
THEY
ACTUALLY
WROTE THAT
*AND LEFT IT IN* !!!
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@@Ramsey276one to be fair they probably just thought they were making a parody and not a real movie
To be fair, that sounds like a valid reason. That is, if they actually drop kicked her WWE style
jesus, i thought it was a joke until i saw it
It's like reverse John Wick
In the live action Toy Story reimagining, Sid develops a thirst for revenge against toys after his dad is killed by a box of toys falling onto his head at his factory job.
His dad was alive in the movie. He was also an abusive drunkard.
@@austinreed7343 it’s Disney, so obviously ithe toys killed his mother in a tragic shopping accident
@@jasonhenry8067
She was alive too.
@@austinreed7343 obviously, that’s the evil stepmother
;P
@@jasonhenry8067 so the mom the dad and the evil stepmother live together?
Between “there was no plan for the Star Wars sequel trilogy” and “Cruella’s tragic backstory is that Dalmatians killed her mother”, I hope every indie creator who has ever experienced self-doubt over their storytelling skills and/or professional competency is feeling very reassured.
I really am. I have kept a lot of books a secret not even allowing my husband to read them much to his frustration, but there seems to be a plague of terrible story making that leaves me feeling perhaps I am wrong for keeping an "ok" story from even my husband until I feel like it is at least good.
Literally why I started writing and publishing my own sci-fi novels. That and the cynicism of "if we can't take care of earth, we shouldn't go anywhere else" which totally ignored how environmental technology boomed after the space-race. I figure I can't do worse than Lightyear.
The writers of these films make my writing look like it was written by a genius.
You know they had a committee of writers who sat for hours around a conference table eating Panera Bread trying to figure out what made Cruella so evil. I mean she wants to kill puppies for their fur, does it really need a backstory?
@@tankerd1847 No, it didn't. And their reasoning for Cruella wanting the dogs's fur for the sake of revenge is some of the cringiest, bottom-of-the-barrel storytelling which is so prevalent in the writer's rooms these days. It's actually another story that Once Upon a Time did much better; and Cruella's reason for doing what she did was the simplest and vest explanation you could give to a character like her: she's just a bad person. What other reason do you need than that? Short, sweet, and to the point.
Next Disney Origin movie: *Ursula* where she fights fat-shaming.
O God no...
I want to watch that.
I really really do.
The stupidity if the concept is pure brain dead entertainment. I'd laugh myself to death.
Lmao.
Dude, I already thought of that. I claim plagiarism.
HUSH! Don't give Disney any ideas!
Disney made the mistake of trying to make it an antihero movie, when what they really should've done is to make it a "villain's journey" movie where young and idealistic girl eventually turns into an irredeemable monster. Thats why people praise Breaking Bad and Joker, they become genuinely bad people in the end, it doesn't get sugarcoated nor does the stories give any excuses for the protagonists.
Your comment needs more likes and is probably the most concise and accurate comparison of this and the joker I've seen.
This. Exactly.
It's because Cruella is a woman and the protagonists of Joker amd Breaking Bad are men. People, including the audiences who watch these movies and the people who make them, are uncomfortable with a movie or other piece of media taking a woman to rock bottom the way Joker does, only to have her rise as the villain. Authors and movie makers flinch at the prospect of tearing a female character down until she has nothing left, so they almost always pull a few of the worst punches. Even when those same authors and movie makers wouldn't flinch at doing the same to a male character.
@@5h0rgunn45 interesting I don’t think I’d be uncomfortable with that, everyone starts somewhere and if that means starting at the lowest of lows a few times then so be it. Everyone has been there. And she kind of did hit “rock bottom” in the movie but obviously that didn’t make her evil. It made her love the dogs that killed her fake mom 😂😂
Yes! You've just summed it up correctly.
Notice how only FEMALE Disney villains get retconned as misunderstood victims.
Why not the male ones?
Like Hans Reinhardt in _The Black Hole._
Noooo oooone's
Hurt like Gaston
Misunderstood like Gaston
directors choir: Let's hope this new movie will earn us a ton
If there's a Disney villain that deserve his own movie it's Jafar. In my opinion at least. Cruella was an odd and dumb choice.
I guarentee that bishop guy from Hunchback of Notre Dame will be the absolute last one to be retconned. Male, and _Christian_
You know why😏
Will they now also make a prequel about the Baroness and how she really wasn’t evil, but had a tragic childhood that made her that way?
Why can’t we just have normal villains? Cruella, daughter of some upper class douches, who always lived a privileged life and wants more and more power as she grows up. And she won’t stop even if it means killing puppies.
A prequel to a prequel. Prequel inception
Because we need more "i'm not like other girls" movies to sell to teenage girls. It's like the harley queen effect all over again
And then the baronesses mom gets her own movie
If you have to build a story around a minor character (or even a very effective villain), you are doomed from the start.
@@thingfish000 It can work like in the case of Joker. But they wrote him in a tragedy where he embraces being a clown and villain to society, not as some antihero like Cruella.
- Is named "Maleficent" - turns out to have been misblamed and tortured and actually cares for the heroine.
- Is named "Cruella" - turns out to have been mistreated and had her mother killed by dalmatians.
Can't wait for the Snow White adaptation, where the villain literally named "Evil Queen" will turn out to be a misunderstood mirror maker whose mother was killed by a snow avalanche or some bullshit like that.
lol
The dwarfs did unspeakable things to the Evil Queens mom.
If the avalache is male and heterosexual yo can bet on your prophecy 100%.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 i think that exists already, think its on disney xxx
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 But she begged them to do it.
“Her mother was killed by evil Dalmatians”
That’s so stupid I can’t even process it.
Edit: having watched the movie, I actually kinda enjoyed it but this plot point is still stupid
Hollywood in a nutshell.
Dog bad, woman good
Now gib me moneyz
Honestly, those doggos were about a decade too late. Lol
This movie was SO obvious in its intent. After the crazy success of Joker, this was Disney's attempt to cash in by doing basically the same thing with a female villain.
@@Mr.Ekshin You see the key difference that Disney missed is that by the end of joker you are supposed to understand joker, you are not supposed to like joker.
The evil dalmations thing killed me. The worst writing of all time. "How do we make the dogs the villains so it is okay she wants to turn them into fur coats later?". Disney has some hacks for sure.
In one of my writing books, it said to never kill off the pets, people will hate you. They leveraged that in John Wick to make the audience hate the villain. But I think there should be a corollary: Never make the dogs the villains.
@@erickay123 To be fair, some stories have made dogs the villains, like Cujo.
They aren't even made evil dogs.
"She's not exactly a young 32."
I DIED.
@Macky Mark Same here. She seems like an at least alright person irl but she seems stuck doing these male hating projects lately. Her upcoming Yorgos Lanthimos film is the same man hating BS her last two films were. I guess go where the money is but still. She's better than that.
Hollywood always casts like 30 year olds as high schoolers lol
I also think that there should be more films and shows made around older characters though, like golden girls was a giant hit for a reason
C'mon, she's not an old 32 either.
She's certainly is a good looking 32. The women I know who are almost the same age, my own girlfriend include, (34) are looking the age they have. Maybe because it's very cold and dark here and it's not exactly florida or california and it wear people before their time but she's good looking and have more charisma than the bland actresses that Disney usually choose (ginger plank of wood)
"Dalmations killed Cruella's mother, that's why --"
no, I can't even finish that sentence, that's tragically bad.
I saw a tweet that said this before I saw the film and I can't believe I thought it was a joke
I am sorry that u even had to say it...
Lmao it's awful ain't it
It's more f-up when the Dalmatians only did what they did on the command of their master/owner to do so...wtf, man?
Martha...
I literally laughed when the Dalmatians killed Cruella's mom
Jesus. Disney is completely out of touch.
How dare you. 😜
It's the old joke "Why does your character hate mayonaise! It Killed his Father and Raped his Mother!" lol
It's a pity they're not completely out of money.
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If only they killed cruelly too
This movie confuses the hell out of me. Knowing the character's history I'm not sure how the writers expected to create a tragically flawed, yet sympathetic character that people could "relate" to when said character has a history of murdering puppies, for fun. Makes me wonder if the writer's have a history of murdering puppies themselves.
Star Wars did it.
I appreciate that you separated the actors and their performance from the shit they are given to work with.
"Why" is a good word for these disney movies.
Yes
Never underestimate those who recently bought Disney's greed.
It is a good word for a lot of things nowadays.
Cue Dr Malcom from Jurassic Park!
"Benjamins" is the answer.
"Because in this world fashion designers are so powerful they can orchestrate murders, manipulate police and local officials, and act like political officials in their own right"
Ah, so this takes place in the Zoolander cinematic universe
To this day, one of my favorite parts is David Duchovny as the World's Greatest Hand Model. "A finger jockey. We don't think the the same as the face and body boys; we're a whole different breed."
Lmao
With how overpriced the garbage they make is they probably could buy their way
Uh, epstein, anyone?
You had me there
Joker is a tragic film about a man going mad and becoming a monster. Through basically the whole third act you are hoping to see some kind of better ending, or at least someone stopping Arthur before he hurts any more people. Cruella is a power fantasy about how a woman carves out a place of power in the world by becoming the very monster she fought against.
It’s like If Jekyll and Hyde was written by a teenage girl.
Written in ten minutes while she's overdosing on Red Bull.
@@The_Chef2511 *Monster
It’s amazing how Disney forgot in the original she was not even a fashion designer. Just a wealthy woman who dressed nicely. Even in 101 Dalmatians 2 she refers to herself as “as over-financed heiress”
And she specifically wears furs, not designer dresses.
Exactly, she should have just been OCD for furs ;p
Yeah she wasn't even fashionable she had on that dress with her hanging breast
They didn't forget, it's just that the tragic backstory cannot work with loads of wealth. They cannot have a hero who's rich and evil, so they changed it all.
@@sirennoir258 💀💀💀
Idk what’s more cringe. Seeing Emma Stone try to act like a “badass” or Disney trying to make a dog killer a sympathetic “heroine”.
that movie is a exact copy of devil wears prada
You can say the same about Joker tho
@@surobyk joker wasn’t supposed to be a hero in his movie though (though i get what you are saying)
I'm more worried about how Disney is telling little girls to craft themselves some flammable overclothes. XD
Not to mention her hair makes her look like she's doing a Sia cosplay, especially the child actress. 🙃
I just have to say that I hate that they turn Cruella into some kind of outcast. She is pretty clearly a queen bee type in the original -- the leader of the pack that no one should question. In fact, it seems like Anita was only her friend because it was much easier than being against her.
"the movie does not try to frame him as some sort of cool, edgy, anti-hero"
unfortunately, every person on the internet sees him as one
The director of this movie said that he never watched 101 Dalmatians. That is enough to know about this mess.
You’d think you’d at least be, I dunno, curious about the movie you’re basically working with.
Dear Lord
Uhm so it tells you it's entirely a different story line. So stop whining.
@@gab5754 Uh no. It's tells us that the director didn't know what the hell he was writing.
@@PhoenixLord777 Its funny to me that cruella's name as an obvious play on Cruel devil, went over his head.
Cruella: I was born brilliant
*Gets* *outsmarted* *by* *puppies*
Just goes to show: dogs > feminists.
@@Saint_nobody Rancid garbage water full of bloated, rotting corpses > feminists.
How about another joke Nagram, Cruella gave Roger and Anita the puppies who would grow up to be the parents of the puppies that outsmart her
Feminist logic: men = dogs, thus
If
dogs >feminists
Then
Men > feminists
@@josiahsugai8470 feminist destroyed with facts and logic.
"She wants to skin puppies for their fur."
"Yeah, what a lady. She's my hero. We should make a movie about her."
"..."
...
...
bet she works for peta
They try *so hard* to make her confident and smart, but she comes off arrogant and immature. It’s so annoying to see someone justify bad actions as “it’s not my fault, other people say mean things to me🥺”
EXACTLY OMG
Unpopular Opinion: The whole “misunderstood antihero” trope is getting annoying and overused. Not every antagonist needs a sad backstory. Some people are just evil. Plain and simple.
Like the Cruella in OUAT
I absolutely agree
And at the very least, if a writer is going to try adding a sad backstory for an iconic villain, one should keep these in mind:
1.) Understand how much the audience should reasonably sympathize with the character, at each individual moment.
2.) Provide a backstory that could logically lead to someone becoming that type of villain. And do not undermine the villain’s sense of agency, by only having the character’s circumstances heavily factor in and not also the character’s own decisions/flaws.
3.) Make the sure the backstory adds to a character’s complexity, rather than consuming the character to the point of “Flanderization”.
4.) When the character becomes that iconic villain, be sure to maintain some of that same appeal, charisma, menace, etc. which made the villain great in the first place.
5.) In general, actually tell an interesting story in the process.
@The Silenced That's the joke.
@The Silenced Your mom goes to college
"Dalmations killed Cruella's mother!"
Stop Disney. Please. Just stop these films. For the love of entertainment, just stop.
Do what I do, don't buy into anything Disney directly/indirectly. Stop giving them money and they might just loose enough market share to fire some people.
That is exactly the idea you would get for cruellas backstory if an extremely out of touch idiot put exactly 5 seconds of thought into it and slapped it into a move for money.
And look it exists! AND PEOPLE WILL WATCH IT AND GO HUH THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD CAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING STUPID FHJKASDFHJKLHJKLASDFHJKLDFADSF
queue 1000 more of these garbage films i hate all of you film is dead
That scene was one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I've seen in a movie in years
@@JosephArata Yes I am the same. I am lucky in a way because my kids were never that interested in Disney movies and I am not that interested in any Disney properties. I liked Star Wars back in 1977 but the Prequels made it somewhat lame and I just decided I didn't need more of that universe.
@@JosephArata
So, you'll never again watch ESPN or ABC, or read Marvel Comics?
Disney Executive: Which one of our classic villains should we give a sympathetic POV?
Disney employee 1: How about someone who wasn't that evil in the source material like Hades?
Disney Executive: No
Disney employee 2: How about someone who was arguably worse in the source material?
Disney Executive: GENIUS!
The moral of the story is don't use the cocaine before a board meeting
you know, i once watched this thing called Twisted, the Untold Story of a royal vizzier. it was a play that told the supposed real story of Jafar from Aladdin. and it was perfect. it had excellent comedy and excellent tearjerking moments
and in one of the song, a bunch of other disney villains appeared, all telling how the true story was wrong and how they were actually tragic, like Ursula wanting for equality for everyone but being usurped from the throne by the king guy (dont remmeber the name), Gaston actually loving Belle for who she was and wanting to rescue her because he thought she was in actual danger, Captain Hook just wanting to teach peter pan responsability so that he wouldnt end up like him, Scar wanting equality for both the lions and the hyenas
and when cruella went, she said that she just wanted a coat full of puppies and everyone boo her out
and disney literally thought they could made her a sympathetic character
It's ironic. The original film was kind of a critique of the fashion industry and these shallow, fashion-worshipping fashionistas. But the remake wallows in the fashion industry.
They have so many outfits because they want to sell the dolls with every single one of them
You can't really expect modern screenwriters and studios to actually understand the themes and messages of the much better stories they attempt to cannibalize. That would require actual effort and intelligence.
dude but a Dalmatian killed her mother
@@frocat5163 clearly evidenced by Disney star wars yeah
@@mookly1056
....why would it in the first place? I mean aren't they friendly companion dogs?
So...having Cruella tumble out the back of a garbage truck wearing a dress made of trash is supposed to be part of a triumphant montage displaying her super-totes-amazing fashion design skills?
Because back in 2001 when _Zoolander_ showed us 'Derelicte,' we were supposed to be _laughing_ at the idea of literal garbage being glamorized as high fashion.
What really hurts is that I've seen fashion designers doing their take on Derelicte.
bravo, i'm not kidding, i read this, stood up and began clapping, bravo..
im throwing roses at my monitor
Didnt Cindy Lauper do this in the 80s with garbage, like literal garbage clothes? I only found it memorable because of a skirt made from shredded newspapers. And yeah...rain...or just...I mean..shredded anything. Maybe I was watching to much pr1n at the time. Seemed like a plot device for some...never mind. But still...trash.
Hush, Zoolander has blackface in it, don‘t ever mention it again. I‘m still not sure if “black lung“ is cultural appropriation.
That's because Zoolander is actually a legitimately brilliant comedy, a genuine high water mark for a lot of reasons, that had the great misfortune to come out right around September 11 2001 and not really get the recognition it deserved.
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only person to say “Why would I root for a person who wanted to kill dogs and make a coat out of them?”
Agreed.
@@snowyrabbitofinle1764 Would you care to explain why using animal skin for clothing is considered pure evil now?
It's wrong for sure. But this doesn't deter people who still insist on eating meat every single day. Even as a vegan myself, I don't see a reason to abhor the idea.
Not to mention, there isn't a single dog being harmed in this movie.
@@debott4538 Why should I have to explain it? I should be 100% obvious. And even without, the implications of dog-killing, there's still nothing to like about the movie because it fails on every aspect possible.
@@snowyrabbitofinle1764 Say, do you eat meat?
If so, then you would be 100% obviously be an evil person, too. Am I not correct?
@@debott4538 Nope. I'm vegan.
I have feelings that people are just gonna look past the fact that cruella is a horrible person who threatened a couple and then kidnapped their puppies to skin them and turn them into coats, but it's fine she's an ambitious strong female character she can do whatever she wants.
My running theory is that ones enjoyment of this film is directly proportional to the amount of time you’ve spent at Hot Topic in the last 10 years.
Interesting, the Vampires would love this movie then of that is true. 🤔
Neat seeing you here sean!
Gotta be honest, i didn't expect to see you in this comment section
Exactly.
@@Mr.Rodgers7 Yes!!!!!!
This movie should have ended with John Wick coming after Cruella.
A crossover , we didn’t know we needed
Obviously cruella would win, because John Wick is a straight white male
@@Rish24 John Wick: You sure about that? (Sharpens pencil)
I knew I couldn't have been the only one thinking this.
@@SheldonAdama17 they'll make john wick gay then lol, it just get worse
Best outro quote I have ever seen "Go Away Now" it is perfection.
One thing I didn’t get about this movie is the timeline. The original story, both movie and the book takes place in the 1950’s. Meaning Cruella at age twenty, would have been around the 1920’s if not earlier. The whole this takes place in 1970’s angle felt more like a nostalgia grab at retro 70’s rock, rather than continuity.
What about the live action 101 Dalmatians? Much as I didn't like that film, it's the universe Cruella probably belongs to. Seems like it was more modern than the original animated movie, but I can't be sure because I remember so little of it.
@@Zara-Bari A majority of all incarcerations of Cruella is based from the original. I know what you’re saying, but this day of age is just nostalgia grabs.
@@Brody400 No denying that, just I don't remember when the live action film was set because I don't remember anything about it. Offhand, I'd assume it was set in the then modern time of the 90s. The timeline maybe still doesn't fit, but the 70s would at least have occurred before the movie. But I don't know, because I don't remember it.
Cruella in a Nutshell: The Villain did nothing wrong, YOU GO GIRL!
I hear you post in the Drinker's voice!
Yes, Cruella is entirely blameless, and can't be held accountable for her actions!
Oh, killing dogs and puppies for fur because they somehow responsible for your tragedies is *TIGHT*
@@thatbloomer5642 Wow Wow wow, wow.
Yay! Dead puppies! Everyone's onboard with that! XD
There is a clearer way to describe the difference between Cruella and Joker: Joker didn't try to make him a hero. He is simply the protagonist in a tragedy.
dont even mention joker and this in the same sentence. this movie doesnt come close to joker in any regard. NOT CLOSE.
One could also think of Magneto and X-Men First Class, and how he basically became the man that killed his mother at the end. The thing is Erik Lehnsherr has never been a full out villain, but a social leader who will do anything, by any means necessary, to protect his kind. Just like Malcolm X.
Cruella wasnt shown to be the hero either tho. She thought of skinning dogs coz she thought their fur would make a good coat , she is evil , just like the original , she just didn't start killing puppies in this one, this is before that happened
@@jyotsna3617 6:36 start from here and then finish the video
I legit love how these virgins love to nitpick the movie simply because it does not meet the personality another movie have. Yikes
At this point, Disney may make a movie on how the Evil Queen from Snow White hates fair people because a fair person killed her mom. So now the only the Evil Queen is allowed to be the fairest person of all.
I hope they make a prequel to the lion king showing mufasa physically and mentaly abusing scar throughout their childhood and getting away with it. Fuck simba and his father. It'll show em. But sadly scar is a male lion so we'll might have to wait a couple of decades for this storyline to get made into a movie.
Everyone that works with me keeps going on about how awesome a movie Cruella is, and I keep explaining to them that a puppy killer is not a good female role model. Then I tell them to watch Alita Battle Angel instead. Then they call me an idiot.
So basically "The Joker wears Prada", except they failed to capture the essence of either movies.
I didn't get Joker at all tbh, the trailer felt more Joker then the movie actually does. It felt like it's own thing, just not great.
@@XxXDestroyer facts
@@jellyfishi_ Yeah I liked Joker, but as you said Joker is really just the title. I hardly consider it a comicbook character movie, the movie could have been titled anything tbh.
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@@jellyfishi_ very well said I agree completely
I'm waiting for a disney movie called "Adolf" which is the backstory of a german child in 1900s who has been bullied in highschool and is facing depression and learns to empower his flaws and becomes the leader of Germany.
And who is unfairly denied entry into a Munich art school due to his Austrian heritage.
Who bravely steps up to defend neighbouring Germany after they are attacked by a bunch of marauding French and British soldiers.
@@whos-the-stiff and dies heroically trying to protect his country from the Soviet union
He was not a female, diverse character, so better luck next time...
Nah, that'd never happen. Granted, the reason being purely because he's male
Imagine if cruela ended up losing all of her friends and having nothing left but a bunch of yes men encouraging her behavior. That would've been cooler than what we got
And she should have killed those Dalmatians... That would have fit her character...
Fittingly, the 1996 remake shows something similar at the beginning of the movie. A bunch of employees afraid of her and afraid to question her decisions.
Cruella vandalizes a store window and becomes a fashion icon, but when I do it I get community service!!
They legitimately gave her Batman's origin but with dogs instead of crime.
The images that conjures...
this reminds me of the meme that batman tried to make his suit like a dog but he didn't know how to sow
And with that, Catwoman was born! Vengeance against all dogs!
@@MariusWales yeah but Cruella didn't hate the dogs that murdered her "mother". She let them live with her. They went to her funeral, and moved in with her into the mansion. They even hung around long enough to have puppies
@Lord Revan actually since they were bred
"...and then the dalmatians push her mom off of a cliff"
~Actual writer for a REAL movie (2021)
But the dalmatians were not blamed in the movie
@@gab5754 Still not justifying the main movies when she literally tried to kidnap dalmation pups to SKIN THEM for COATS
@@gab5754 Still doesn’t make it any less stupid. Also, it makes the whole Dalmatians killing her mom thing pointless.
@@gab5754 looks hilarious and stupid no matter what reasons there are
@@gab5754 Explain how that is a counter argument.
Ah, yes, the pop punk movement, when people vapidly searched for the "right brand of safety pins" to stick in their clothing because those who were originally - and derisively - labled punks did it to hold their clothes together because they couldn't afford a new jacket. Actually appropriate for this film.
Emma Thompson's character felt a lot more like Cruella than Emma Stone's character.
Soooo true
I'm expecting a Smaug origin story where we find out he was saving that gold for the starving chuldren of Gondor.
Smaug is actually a single black mother
@@thehoerscorral8565 Smaug is a Burn Loot Murder co-founder bent upon developing their property portfolio......
@@strategicviewpoint6672 Said the donations were for her people but instead hoarded it all inside a mountain kingdom... oh wait
@@thehoerscorral8565 lol
Hey a story of a dragon would be awesome
Cruella hating Dalmatians because they throw her mom off a cliff is one of the funniest things I’ve heard in my life, Disney really puts no effort on their products now.
@@goodiesfeats2252 In the past.
I didn't watch a movie yet. But I had hearded even stranger thing's. Or to put it better, that even tho she supousydly "hated" dalmation's. She gived two of them to Anita, and Roger. And those Dalmation's where sibling's.
And if this film is somehow an "prequel" to the original story, you known what that mean's.
Goodiesfeats Remember that it’s the same company that made Fantasia, the original Dalmatians movie, Alice in Wonderland, Snow White, Bambi, the Lion King, etc.
Yet apparently her hatred of dalmatians never comes up again... meaning this absolutely bonkers attempt at a sympathetic motivation was created for nothing
So....its the devil wears Prada, only without the talent, interesting characters, plot that made sense....or anything fucking good?
The beginning of the video made me think about the Loki series and how my expectations were so low and how I knew with every fiber of my being this show was going to be subpar just like the rest of the Marvel series. But ended up proving me wrong. It’s been so long since I’ve felt absolute bliss watching a show. ESPECIALLY something made by Disney.
I didn’t watch the Loki show because of the weird romance between him and his female version and the fact they made him gender-fluid because he can transform into any person and manipulate people.
We all know why Disney made this movie: they needed a Harley Quinn, so they tried to make Cruella a Harley Quinn like character, but it just doen't work like that.
THis somehow makes Harley QUinn look unhinged.
I felt that too. They tried to make her HQ
You're right, as a few others have also glommed. They even went as far as getting the nearest thing to Margot Robbie they could find, in the form of Emma Stone, and managing to completely blind-side themselves to the stunningly bad casting choice in the process. What utter morons must be running the show in show biz now.
lol at one moment watching Drinker's video I thoguht "hhhmm i owuld have liked Emma Stone as Harley Quinn"
Holy shit I thought Emma Stone and Margot Robbie were the same person until now...
When I heard that dalmations killed Cruella's mom, I laughed and thought it a joke. Oh, how foolish I was.
And it's not even by mauling her. The dog dropkicks her off a cliff.
Funniest shit i saw in a dysney movie.
:P
It's like unnecessary prequel movies are cursed to overexplain every little character quirk we've seen in the original movie.
Bonus points if the explanation doesn't actually make sense (Cartoon Cruella only wanted to kill the puppies because they'd make for a nice coat; that's it, really).
It's her mom's fault for not having literal parachute pants.
@@commandercaptain4664 she wasn’t expecting herself to be kicked off a cliff😂
She doesn't even blame the dalmatians though (blames herself for provoking & leading them to her mother). Not to mention later on it's revealed that it was actually the Baroness character who set the dalmatians on her mom with a dog whistle.
Y'all just blindly hating for the sake of it.
As usual you nailed it. I dont know how youre able to sit thru all these shitshows but we appreciate ya takin one for the team.
99% of studio films are the same crap.
I want to be entertained not lectured to.
"I want VENGEANCE for what happened to MY MOTHER! Also, I'll make some fur coats while at it uwu"
Finding out that one of the Dalmatians dropkicked Cruella's mom to her death makes this film hilarious on a whole other level.
🤣🤣🤣
Watch out watch out watch out
.... RKO ! Outta nowhere
And it is a very dumb reason like if she died by Dalmatians bite then it would make much sense but still a dumb reason mainly for she used them as a f*cking coat like wtf
Up next, Ursula get's revenge after her father got smacked to death by a mermaid. XD
When I heard the resoning for her hatred of Dalmatians I thought it was a parody, like, how is this NOT a parody?
This was Disney’s attempt at Joker.
A failed attempt.
Most Shameless part of Cruella was the "Smile" song playing in Background while Cruella cries. How Original💩🙈
Now I'm waiting for Filmento's "Cruella: How to fail at Joker".
Not to mention the plot hole at the end of the movie where Perdita and Pongo are apparently siblings…..
This movie could have worked if it weren't a cruella movie. Cruella is an interesting character, but what was shown in this movie wasn't the cruella we knew and loved, it just uses it's name and clothes to make it marketable. If they didn't try so hard to make cruella the main character, this could have worked alright. Also, no fur plotline? How could you take out one of the most defining pieces of a character and expect people to not feel alienated?
When I heard that Cruella’s mom was pushed off a cliff by Dalmatians I thought it was a parody. I’m still trying to pick my jaw up off the floor after that clip.
Know what the worst part is? 4/8Chan called that one YEARS ago.
@@magmos6346
You got a link to that?
@@jamesvanitas Sadly no. That was so many years ago, I thought Disney had a stroke of sanity and canned the movie.
Worst part about it is that she only pretends to make a coat out of the 3 adult dalmatians. So adult dogs kill her mom, not enough for her to use them to make a coat. Yet she has no problem using a hundred puppies to make one. That doesn't make any sense. In the original she clearly just was a heartless fur coat lover, didn't needed more than that to make it a good movie with a good villain.
@@MankindFails She had also killed other animals for their fur, the Dalmatians were just the latest animals that she wanted .
The part where Cruella jokes about turning the Dalmatian into a coat made the audience of my function clapp like wtf should I feel good about animal abuse?
The people who preach for strong females are also the same people who preach for animal rights. They don't know what they want.
Precisely, why should we cheer on a literal dog murderer, except because the movie says so?!
I cringed at that part, especially since we know what happens directly after this
Most people really are morons, aren't they?
@@collegerebel Mhm
This whole film and idea behind it is like a sarcastic idea that has gone too far... like in that one South Park episode
Mother killed by dalmatians = Grows up to kill & skin dalmatians
Hollywood has broken through the bottom of the barrel and hit bedrock
I needed to find a review like this. After seeing how much praise this movie is getting and the reviews..
Agreed.
the moral being "act like a sociopath to get ahead in life" says a lot about this movie's creators.
But as seen IRL, all too often, it works.
Well, it worked in Joker movie except the protagonist already had mental illness.
@@margarethmichelina5146 Joker isn't the same at all. He's never touted as being a hero in the movie, he just cracks under the weight of everything and lashes back at society for the way it is. There's nothing heroic about it. Nor does he "get ahead in life", his life spirals into madness. You don't "get ahead in life" by murdering people on public television because you've lost your sanity.
@@margarethmichelina5146 Yeah. Because nothing says "I made it!" quite like being locked up in a mental institution and killing your mother, your idol, and your psychiatrist at the end of the movie.....
@@margarethmichelina5146 joker went to prison he did not "get ahead in life".
“...And then the Dalmatian did a backflip, snapped the mother’s neck, and doomed the world.”
Wow wow wow wow wow... W
wow.
Wow wow, wow wow wow wow wow
Edit: lol almost identical comments at the same times are tight!
Backflips are tight 😎
Huh, is this a reference to that guy's video of the first novel ever created?
Making references is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
It wasn’t just Dalmatians that made her crazy for fur. She was obsessed with skinning rare or endangered species. Hence the white tiger in the first live action. And one design lead her to wanting to skin puppies for a fur coat. She moved from endangered exotic animals to domestic animals which became a scarier twist to her personality.
This film shows non of that…
What's funny is even Emma Stone herself said that Joker and Cruella are not the same
So moral of the story: don’t be raised by a single mother.
I got that same moral from a trip to Chicago.
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Tell the family court system & first world societies that.
Don’t forget, don’t be poor
Seems about right
“Bloated and self-indulgent” - Like every Disney movie made in recent years
Reflecting the audience base.
An OBVIOUS attempt at a cash grab. After the crazy success of 'Joker', this was Disney's attempt to cash in by doing basically the same thing, but with a female villain.
Just like I like my women !
Wait...
So basically this is just a cheap The Devil Wears Prada rip off... but then executed 100000 times WORSE. Typically Disney though.
@@davidwilliams7723 I like my women like I like my coffee: tall, aromatic, and free of hair. 🍻
3:38 okay, but _Project Runway_ with extra murder sounds like a really fun premise, _if_ that's what the story's about, _and_ you can take the gloves off and actually have people killed and not be a prequel to a Disney movie
At least you weren't disappointed with this movie. You went in with low expectations and came out with all those expectations met. That's the nicest thing I've heard you say about a "disney remake"... Does this count as a disney remake? It's more of a prequel to a 1996 live-action remake (which undoubtedly, Disney had forgotten about and will soon remake again).
Next up: Disney's 'Lil' Adolph!' - the delightful tale of the adorable baby Hitler, misunderstood, fiercely fabulous and ready to turn up the burners of justice!
I would watch this.
(For the love of God read this as sarcastic)
Don't forget the Jewish man who makes fun of his artwork and probably kills his parents to justify Adolf's actions
Make Hitler a girl and you'll have yourself a three-picture deal with Mickey Mao.
Basically, the full version of Springtime for Hitler.
I’d proudly watch this movie
Wait wait wait. Cruella's mom was dropkicked off a cliff by dalmation guard dogs?
That's...really fucking funny.
@Miguel Messina No because it's absurd... which IS expected from an absurd crime comedy movie lmao
@Miguel Messina yeah… thought that was a given tbh..
i was so confused if to laugh or take it seriously
That's not even her mom. Cruella's mom is the Baroness. So, the whole point the Critical Drinker made about us trying to cheer on Cruella became moot upon the plot twist. She was born evil. The movie is a mix between Maleficent, Bird of Prey, and Joker. In the end, it's Disney mining another IP. The writers realized how stupid Cruella is, hence the plot twist. You're trying to get the audience to care about a woman, whose sole obssession was to kill Dalmations to make coats out of them. They know it's stupid, we know it's stupid.
I could rant on, but I'm not.
@@dilungmoveityafool777 so its shite
Speaking of the original version of Disney’s 101 Dalmatians; the backgrounds of that movie have this really endearing quirkiness to them. Something about the color palette and quality reminds me of the illustrations Quentin Blake did for Roald Dahl’s books. I remember seeing somewhere that the artists on Disney’s Big Hero 6 used the backgrounds of 101 Dalmatians as inspiration for the aesthetic of Big Hero 6, and I think it was to BH6’s benefit that they did, as that movie also has beautiful scenery and design. Kinda makes me wish we got another BH6 honestly.
The responses from people who actually like this movie are nearly as cringy and pointless as the movie itself.
Imagine "was dropkicked off a cliff by a disgruntled Dalmatian" being on your tombstone forever
Not as bad as ‘died in a portapotty in an earthquake’ though.
"Was dropkicked off a cliff by a disgruntled dalmatian... but to be fair it was Bob Holly's dalmatian."
I thought he was joking, but no and it almost killed me
This line was from pitch meeting
@@nhmooytis7058 that’s understandable
Some quotes from The Atlantic article "The Cowardice of Cruella
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"The new Disney film could have embraced villainy, in all its complications. Instead, it opts for a cheaper sort of sympathy."
"The whole thing can read... as a game of corporate-feminist Mad Libs"
"Disney has given us an allegedly punk antihero whose defining goal is to be respected within the establishment."
"The film embraces the glib condescension of the idea that every villain must be, somehow, misunderstood-that a woman can’t be purely evil, that she must have a softer side, that her currency is her beguiling relatability."
"I longed for the classic Cruella: vain, vapid, willing to kill puppies, and never feeling the need to explain herself."
That’s some increíble journalism right there
Damn thats cutting
The Atlantic? The Atlantic is worth the paper it's printed on. (I'm hoping it doesn't have a print version. Meaning it would be worth nothing, since it doesn't use paper.)
@@toddnolastname4485 That's why I posted the quotes. I found it funny that someone at that leftest rag sheet called out the movie's bullshit.
Why can’t people just enjoy a movie and move the fuck on. This movie doesn’t embrace the idea every villain must be misunderstood. The baroness is one of the most ruthless and heartless villain I’ve seen in awhile from Disney. Some people just want to trash everything
The other day I watched the 1950s Disney movie Third Man On The Mountain where it's celebrated European history and was wholesome and nice and even though that was long before my time on this planet, it made me wish that I lived back then. Walt Disney must be rolling in his grave at what has become of his baby.
"so many outfits" - ok, you convinced me, I'll go watch it :P
Someone sat down and was like "I want people to identify with someone who kills puppies."
not all of us have an obsession with dogs. you sound like one of those sensitive vegans 😂
@@forwhy8723 I found the dog eater
@@thefallenfaith1986 yes you got me. It's a little known fact that dog eating is a speciality here in England 😂
@@thefallenfaith1986 what’s wrong with that? Are you a sensitive vegan?
@@cindyl2444 Why, of course not; I just have an extreme prejudice against those that, while human, do not deserve to be counted as people and woud best be descrbed as subpeople - such as yourself.
What is with this Disney obsession with justifying or redeeming their female villains? They’re bad people, period. End of story. Their being women has nothing to do with their villainy, their choices as people do.
But women are always the victim.. at least that's what the media have been force feeding everyone for years now... I'm surprised it wasn't a white male in a dalmatian costume that was the real villain.
Because a white woman (the most empowered being in the history of earth) can't be shown as wholly evil. There must be a "reason" It's society's fault. It's her parents fault. Never her own decision.
They would never do it with Jafar or Scar. Only then would Disney say that it'd be wrong to try to justify evil.
The Disney Villains are popular. They have merchandise and their own branding. People are legit fans of them. Hell, *I* like them. I'm not rooting for the villain to win, but they're always the most fun character in their movies.
Disney wants to mine that for IP, but they can't bring themselves to do a movie from the villain's point of view. They could never do a Joker. So they try to switch it up so the villain is actually the misunderstood hero...
However, NOBODY LIKES THE VILLAINS BECAUSE THEY'RE MISUNDERSTOOD HEROES. They like the villains BECAUSE THEY'RE VILLAINS. Nobody wanted the story of Sleeping Beauty to be "opposite day" where Maleficent was actually the hero. Maleficent is cool BECAUSE she's evil. We wanted the story of why she's so evil, not why really she's the good guy.
Watch them turn octopus lady villain in little mermaid into a hero
Cruella could’ve been an amazing negative story arc character. Started like a villain and ended as a villain, with a small chance of redemption midway through the film but threw it all away to become a monster instead. Joker it is not, but it could’ve been.
I'm not a Disney fan to begin with, and I've had less than zero interest in whatever this movie was, but the hype had me curious about what it was even about. So my hero The Drinker has once again saved me from wasting time on trying to watch it, while simultaneously breaking down the gist of it. Once again I raise a toast to The Drinker for taking one for the team.
"Sir, Cruella is literally a villain that wants to kill puppies. How can we make that sympathetic?"
"Easy. We show a scene where evil puppies murder her helpless mother."
Just when you think Disney's potential for absurdity has been reached, they take it further.
THEY
ACTUALLY
WROTE THAT
*AND LEFT IT IN* !!!
XD
What's the problem with that tho? It's not like Cruella actually hurt the dogs in the movie, she actually saved some in the end, lmao..
@@beinerthchitivamachado9892 And try to kill them again.
You talk about this story element as if it wasn't meant to be an absurd, tongue-in-cheek joke... It's funny and it's a great reminder that the movie is not to be taken seriously, it is just an excuse to let Emma Stone go glam-punk rock crazy. People are watching and enjoying this movie for her performance and the outrageous fashion. The experience is working for basically everyone who isn't a nerdy fanboy crying about woke culture
@@allenallen9879 What the fuck are you talking about? In the movie she never hurt the dogs, once again, she saved two puppies from the one dalmatian that was pregnant.
Cruella - strong, brave woman fighting against toxic Dogarchy!
That'll show Doge Coin! 😄
Cane-archy?
@@conservativeguitarsingerjs7937 Dogarchy? Cane-archy? Hotel? Trivago.
I bet those were all male dogs that pushed her mommy over the cliff
@@milton7763 lmao
Lost my shit when the dalmatians knocked her mother off a cliff XD
No level of farce is off limits when it comes to rescuing our Hollywood wahmen from society’s judgement apparently.
The laziest of lazy antihero justifications, with a little classism mixed in for good measure
I remember having nightmares about cruella as a child. She was a brilliant and timeless villain. Now she is a little woman that likes dresses. Thanks disney for making a movie that makes me fall asleep.
"What did dalmatians do to her, kill her parents?"
- "Yeah, about that..."
FOR REAL?!
Q_o
Dumbest thing ive ever seen in a Movie ever.
I love how they tried to make Dalmatians look evil too 😅 WHO at Disney makes these decisions for real? Hahaha
“Because apparently in this world fashion designers are so powerful they can orchestrate murders and manipulate police and local officials” Zoolander prequel confirmed?
Holy shit, fashion designers are mafiosos! How could this have escaped all of us?
@@carljohan9265 Adam, Eve and Steve? Seriously? YOU BELIVED THAT?
But why male models?
They even have a scene with her wearing a gown of garbage. Derelicte confirmed?
You do no fashion designers are incredible rich and could just bribe them, if you gonna try and poke holes in a film at least do it right.
"Cruella became a villian because some dalmations pushed her mom off a cliff". I can't even begin to process the utter stupidity of this shit.
As a stand-alone this was pretty well done. If they try to transition to puppy killer cruella with this cast and premise, it won’t work.
They saw Joker and were like, "Who can we use to do the same story?"
And chose the woman who wanted to skin puppies.
Fuck they could have done that with Ursula. Whole big family conflict between her and triton that leads to her banishment and subsequent revenge. Would have worked way better than the villain who just likes furs.
That's what I was thinking the whole time a women who is pushed around and hates her boss has a big personality change and makeover and goes on a crime spree. I was like this feels like joker months ago.
@@whitemoonwolf13
An Ursula movie would also have the added benefit of being prime material for a black female lead. You have a good story there, on top of the diversity quota lol
@@bigboi5545 Ursula was modeled after a white drag queen, what about her screams “black female” to you? I’m genuinely curious.
The thing is, they have such poor understanding as to WHY the Joker is a villain, not by what he does, but the reason behind it, in that he's trying to get Batman to break his rule by embodying Chaos, while Bats embodies Order. But no, they see a man wearing makeup, killing people, and laughing, and their single digit IQs go "Huh, man kill man make good movie character."
Wheel of Morality: "Animal abuse is cool!"
Audience: uhh.....
Months later.... The SPCA announces they will no longer rescue Dalmatians.
Wheel of Morality, turn turn turn, tell us the lesson that we should learn.
everything is ok if you are from the oppressed
Oh, so it did go that direction! Sucks for them, I ain't watching it!
@@STOCKHOLM07 You can teach an old dog new tricks, but you can never teach Madonna to act.
"I mean, that's not what happened here, but I imagine it's nice when it happens."
I started laughing at the exact same time as the clip from 5th Element. This made me laugh even harder.