Review: M1/M1A Micro Red Dot Mount by Hopco USA
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Ah, comment section before the airsoft operators and Japanese love pillows. Simpler times.
Ahh, pinned comments during the anti-trend years. It's like Kurt before Courtney murdered him....
It surprisingly doesn't look out of place or awkward. Nice clean, functional and reversible mod..
+TheBrackishCoast Hi, I am the inventor of the Hopco USA mount. Maintaining the aesthetics of the gun was one of the main design requirements.
joelogic1 I'd say you were successful.
+joelogic1 Yeh.. You did well. It is very subtle.
Is there any available for an M1A / M14 ?? Now that would be awesome !
@@musashiblade8665 I believe there is, if you go to Joelogic1's youtube page you may be able to find some videos on it, but you could also go to his website www.hopcousa.com
Typically I wouldn't for a second, even think about bastardizing an American classic. But it doesn't look out of place or cheesy. And it's easily reversible? I'll have to look into one of these.
andy craig I appreciate that it's not taking up more real estate than it should. It looks like a very useful addition to what was long considered the perfect fighting man's rifle.
@andy craig Exactly I love the fact that it is reversible, since that way I am not losing anything permanently.
Great to see an M1 Garand being run through modern shooting drills. Very cool.
Yes agree incredible.
Someone should do this for the M1 Carbine, would be more fitting- especially with a folding stock, imo.
your videos are like Colion Noir's if he were white. That is a compliment
Thanks brother!
Hhahahahahaha and here I was thinking I was the only that had that thought
dude that red dot on the m1 garand is badass. fuck it im going to buy one
Except Thumbs' videos are a billion times better.
Joseph Petruccio Except Colion Noir has a very odd cadence and a tendency to phrase things a bit awkwardly.
I always got a sort of "moderately intelligent high school student trying to mimic academia for the purpose of writing a school paper" vibe from him.
This is a really good video chaps... Thought I was watching one of the Bourne movies for a moment. Great mount as well. I was searching for a decent optic mount system for the M1A even though I can't have a gun coz I live in th UK. But just wanted to tick off my pretend shopping list for my pretend socom 16. So, I have my mount sorted and my optic choice resolved now. Thanks! Birds have more freedom than we do. :(
+Paul Dutton Hope one day you guys have some better gun laws.
for it's time the M1 Garand had the best sights in the world, but that was in 1928, a red dot sight wasn't even a glint in the milkman's eye back then
NedYarbNexus, exactly. I have often stated that the major innovation of the M1 Garand as far as military efficacy wasn't the fact that it was semi-automatic (the Soviets also had a semi-automatic infantry rifle at the start of WWII, and built around 5 million of them by war's end, but nobody claims that they won the war because of the SVT 38/40), but rather the cutting edge sight system. Contrary to most nations at the time, the US handed it's troops a complex rifle with advanced sights, trained, and trusted them to use them, and to great effect. To this day, American troops (especially we Marines) have a reputation for exceptional marksmanship that is in no small part borne of the M1's superior, instantly adjustable sights.
Consider how most militaries in that conflict barely taught their troops marksmanship, and many forbade troops from adjusting their sights in the field, letalone on the fly. The French, for example, didn't even have a means of adjusting their MAS 36 sights for windage in the field; the entire rear sight must be changed by an armorer to alter the windage, and the trigger pull feels like it was designed to prevent the rifle from being fired with any kind of patient deliberation.
You need to make more Garand vids.
I love this video. Everyone talks about bastardizing an American classic like the M1 Garand, but in my opinion, it's actually an honor to a great warhorse to update it for modern use and to potentially be a battlefield weapon again if it were pressed into service. The M1 Garand was made to fight, what better honor than to keep it updated to be able to fight in the 21st century?
while the m1 garand is capable of fighting, a bolt action is as well by the same argument. In a real battle though I would ideally choose the modernized version of the garand though just because it is magazine fed. (m14 or m1a)
The M1 Garand does not need to be pressed into service, and shouldn't.
If you were facing an enemy in light armor, wouldn’t you rather have an M1 with black tips over an AR with green tips?
@@leg3ND451 It's still a perfectly good firearm built for fighting.
@@doughesson it's obsolete.
Thanks for this little gem! I think I'm gonna use my M1 Garand for hog hunting.
Im really glad to see a review of such an awesome product by a respectable and knowledgeable user. I've owned a Hopco mount since around December of 2014 and stress shoot M1's in much the same way you do, if only half as often. In fact after discovering your channel many moons ago I've frequently used your documentation as a benchmark for my own skill and personal techniques, to which, if I had to compare, I would say im no where near as proficient. Keep up the great work and know there is someone who holds your work and skill in awe.
This is exactly what I need! I trained on the M14 in 1968 at Parris Island, SC. We all had to shoot iron sights out to 500 yards in order to qualify and graduate a Marine.
Well, I''m 70 years old now and my eyes are not what they were at 18 years old. Now, unless it is a very sunny day it is very difficult for me to line up the target with the front blade and rear aperture. I'm thinking that if I set up a "battle zero" at 200 yards with this red dot, then I should be able to use "Hold Over" for 50 yards to 350 yards.
Anyway, I ordered one of these and we'll see if I just wasted some dollars.
How much does each click on the red dot that you use move the point of impact?
Didn't the Marines learn you how to calculate clicks to MOA adjustments?
When you are engaging multiple targets at multiple distances you want to establish a "battle zero" which could be different for each shooter. I prefer the 200 yard mark as my battle zero, then, using the hash marks it is pretty easy to just your fire without having to mess with your scope or whatever site you are using. If using iron sites and your rifle is zeroed at 200 yards but your target is at 300 yards just aim at the head and you should be able to hit the target center mass. I don't know about the 5.56 round but this is effective for a 7.62, 150 grain ball round.
@@boosuedon My destroyer USS Mahan DDG42 was 82' wide, just coincidentally 25m for our FanFire qualification sessions underway.
Get your zero & calibrate the rear sight for 200 meters.
Close enough for government work.
You posted this nearly 4 years ago. I'm wondering how well the Hopco held up with brass bouncing off it several thousand times.
Yes, it has. As has the RMR. Excellent setup then and now ... after many, many rounds.
After 1000 plus rounds, the only issue I have had is a small amount of debris coating the lense. I don't see any indication that brass ever hit mine.
I'm a sucker for taking surplus rifles and doing modern enhancements that do not take away from the overall aesthetic of the piece. Looks like a great way to accomplish that with the Garand. May have a new project to fund this summer.
well and here is the other thing, in my book at least. This makes this MORE than functional for, let's say, deer hunting.
I hope you read this and reply back. First off let me start by saying I bought an Springfield M1A Tanker earlier this year and at a very great price. I've fallen in love with this rifle. It is well balanced and the recoil is not arm jarring. I'm 59 yo USAF vet so over the years I've losing my farsighted vision and it's hard at times to center the front site. I like the set up you have and looks very reliable. I love the way the Tanker is set up as well as most M1As especially the stripper clip mount on the top, but I noticed in your video that you loaded a stripper clip from the top. So I'm assuming your set up still allows for the stripper clip mount without jeopardizing the optics and mount? I've not looked to see if you have any links for your set up, if not could you reply back with a link. Also I noticed this vid is 7 yrs old. Are your optics and mounts still in working order? And is there a quick disconnect by now that you could change optics if necessary? And would you use a larger optic other than the mini? I'm just getting the feel of my M1A and I want it to shoot true without compromising the beauty and integrity of such a grin rifle. Thanks for taking the time to read as well as answer, I hope.
Thanks and God bless
He was shooting an M1. NOT an M1A/M14. The M1 is fed from an enbloc 8rd clip, which is a top loader. No provision for bottom feed, unlike your mag fed M1A. They do share the same sights.
this is an awesome mount. I've seen it used in competitions many times and it held zero under harsh conditions.
10 lbs gun, lightweight optic.
Actually it's around 12lbs. This was back when real men were still in mass production.
Actually it's around 12lbs. This was back when real men were still in mass production.
andy craig
Run a mile under 6 minutes and let me know when you're a real man.
GT: excellent review, thanks!
I'm considering this mount in combination w/ the Leupold DPP for my 7.62/308 'Tanker' (18") M1, which is a pretty tight shooter with just the irons. I've watched your Garand-related videos, and they're great! Hope you do more of them, maybe including putting your M1 thru 'tactical drills,' with moving & shooting & reloading clips on the fly. I've run a couple of my Garands in 3-Gun Matches (Hvy Metal Div), and it was huge fun. Took one of my .308 M1s along to a tactical carbine course one time. Let's just say the old M1 attracts A LOT of attention from younger guys who are used to only seeing tricked-out ARs. LOL. Thanks!
That truly is an awesome system for any two or three gun match using your M1. However, if you're like me and have your M1 as a SHTF weapon, one cannot, cannot rely on anything powered by a battery or having breakable glass. Great video by the way.
+Mr44special Thanks! Great points by the way!
True for the stated parameters. But keep the tool and the original rear sight with the rifle and your problem is solved. Switching out is about a 10 min process. Less if your careful and practice. I keep a couple extra batteries and the rear sight in the butt compartment of the m1a. I imagine my solution doesn’t fit the need quite like shtf folks prefer, just pointing out that the change out is likely worth the reliability risk. I’d rather shoot faster until I’m out of batteries in 3-4 years. It’d be pretty unlikely to break that rmr glass. If your beating the rifle hard enough to break an rmr, you may well need to rezero anyway, iron sights or no.
@@GarandThumbwhile an optic is entirely within my sights, haha, break your Joshua is a potential thing. Would there be some kind of option for a co-witness rear sight or a snap-on/ snap-up back up battle sight? Or a QD mount?
At first I never considered removing the iron sight or getting any scope that would obscure it, but you've convinced me to not only replace the iron sight but not consider getting any scope at all... even though I'm getting a scope mount in the mail for free. Now I'm just debating which trijicon sight to get. Debating between a regular 3.5 red dot, or the dual illuminated model with green triangle.
Did you get one?
@@CommercialFree78 I got the dual illuminated green triangle rmr. Sadly the mounts themselves are currently sold out. The rmr seems neat, I was just a bit caught off guard that nearsighted people like me won't see it well without glasses.
Put two custom layers of 100mph tape on the mount where brass strike occur and move on or ask a talented M1 mechanic if you can tune it so that doesn't happen. I think I will be owning the club but I would like to see a mount the has a cowitnessed aperture in the bottom of this sight. Even if it was not real adjustable, we could use holdoffs. Now, which M1 will get the nod? Depending upon the mount, maybe the parts will fit in the stock.
This is a must have for a socom 16. The front post on the socom is TERRIBLE for ranges beyond 100.
I think it's really cool how you apply the M1 Garand to the 21st Century. I love my Garand and I'll never part with it. Great video!
Well done sir.
I'm gonna buy this set up.
Now I just need an m1 or an m1a. Or maybe both.
101DeathJester same tho
I vote M1. The M14 is a lot of money for what it does, and there are modern guns that do what it does better for half the money. So if you want magfed performance, get a decent AR10 or g3 or something like that. If you want historical feel, why go by halves?- Get the garand.
Now I'm trading all my ar great for a garand, some bandoliers, this red dot and a bayonet
Hows all that going?
One of my favorite videos. Like it even more than the big breasted, red headed, Asian Ladies videos.
What videos are those asking for a friend....
Brother givr us link
Good review. Because of this, I installed one of these. Super easy. Nice guy who makes them. Remained solid and held zero after just 100 rounds on mine.
No problems after 1000 rounds
Great video. Clean, crisp and to the point, while still punching my eyeballs with visual candy. I appreciate your opinion on the products that you review in all of the videos I have seen so far. Well done sir.
Bought one of these a year ago for my M1a scout. After a few rounds of tinkering and zeroing, with a Burris fastfire 3, this is a very accurate and reliable aiming setup. I highly recommend this product, and I wish I had heard about it sooner. I ended up removing the front sight and the scout scope mount, then changing the top hand guard to an original style. I didn't really notice a difference in weight, but handling was greatly improved. Especially from that scout scope rail which is a poor design choice. That thing gets hot enough to cook bacon after the first 20rd magazine.
Hey man I just wanted to ask and see how the Burris was holding up after some rounds ran through it. Grand thumb shows the optics taking some shells to it and just wanted to see how it was holding up. Thanks in advance!
@@eagleflownsouth7728 I've never noticed that being a problem. There is not any damage to it that I can distinguish from normal wear and tear.
Love to see you do a review on the M1A/M14 platform and your thoughts on the Socom series.
This would make up for my aging eyes on my M1 and my M1A.
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When call of duty ww2 meets reality
I know this is an old video, but what Garand ammo belt are you running?
2015 years ago: "this little micro red dot might take away from the authenticity of the gun"
2023: post malone abomination
Just imagine if they had theses in ww2
I always enjoy your review format....good shooting footage as well. Wish I lived out west, but not too far west haha
Hello mr thump.
Im a little german fanboy of you and im asking my self a question for a very long time now.
The m14 was taken out of service by the US cuz it was said that the recoil under full automatic fire was to hard to control.
But is it really?
I saw your video in the FAL system which is 308. As well and when you handle this beast i looks like my gas blowback airsoft gun is having more recoil.
Is this just because your training and skills ore could a us soldier in vietnam handled this rifle as efficiently as you are doing it.
Sorry for my bad English and greets from germany
Different rifles in the same caliber may provide a different recoil experience. For instance, the AR-10 firing the same ammunition as the M14 is accounted extremely soft shooting.
How would the MRO work out on these rifles with a scout rail set up?
What distance did you zero for? Great video
Hey Grand Thumb, I just purchased my Socom 16 and Hopco mount. I was going to purchase the Leupold Delta Point, noticed the JPOINT Red Dot was more affordable. The JPOINT doesn't appear to be as rugged. Do you have any experience with JPOINT or would you stay away from it for the 308 platform.
What about mounting a slightly larger optic such as an MRO? Would they catch too much spent brass because of the size?
The mount is made for micro optics as of this moment. Delta point, Trijicon RMR, etc etc. With a MRO I'd imagine a cheek riser would be needed.
Man his set up in this vid looks like something out of an alternate history novel
Load carefully....don't hurt your thumb!
What if I wanted to go ahead and hit that subscribe button?
What about the rear iron? Is that removed to accommodate the mount?
um. yeah. That's how it's so solid. watch this: ruclips.net/video/-okpM1-M73g/видео.html
Also reversible. Takes the place of the Irons.
Pretty sweet option for the Garand. As far as the M1A goes...an Ultimak rail on a Scout Squad with a Vortex Sparc 2 or the Trijicon micro can not be beat. Lower 3d cowitness. Fast accurate fire out to 300 yds with the red dots, and full use of the superb irons out to the 763x51s max efect range. IMHO the 2moa dot of the Vortex Sparc 2 is perfect fit for these rifles.
You were at the Mica Gun Range! I was the RO out there for 5 years! Thats so cool. Great video btw
Now we can shoot the M1 passively under night vision! 👍
Love the fact that you run the Garand!
Well now it's time for a M1 Garand. Also, if you want to keep the lens clear of any marks, i bet some clear vinyl would help. Or some ceramic coating
Purchased based on this review. Burris Fastfire. Works great. I have a leather riser to help with cheek weld. Outstanding sight picture. I have a TRS-25 on an ultiMAK rail on another Garand. Sight picture and target acquisition are not as good, but dot is closer to bore and cheek weld is great on standard stock. Plan to upgrade TRS to Holosun.
Went with an Aimpoint micro on the rail. Think I like that the best.
I can't wait to run this on my BM59.
That's fricken cool! I am a huge red dot and M1 fan!
Glad to see more trans-equipment representation!!! I identify as an A-10, pronouns are brrrrt/whoosh/brrrrrrrrrt. What’re yours?
Yeah I know I'm 3 years late... BUT, the XS scout rail is IMO, superior to this. It mounts the optic forward of the action (better for red dots) and allows both more options of optic AND allows the iron sights to remain in place. Have you tried the XS scout rail?
I had an Ultimak rail on my other M1A.
It heated up after 10 rounds to where you couldn't touch the SOB without raising blisters.
@@doughesson Yeah that's pretty consistent. I don't really know why you would want to be touching the optic after 10 rounds of rapid fire anyway though?
@@cm2973 I was talking about the rail burning like a heat wave...
@@doughesson I'm perfectly aware of what you were talking about. What about my reply Made that unclear?
@@cm2973 You were talking about touching the optic & I was talking about the Ultimak rail being hotter than hell because it clamps directly to the barrel.
Not only that but the aforementioned mounting clamps affect the barrel vibrations which screws with the accuracy.
Not to raise up an olde' Moldy video....But this mount precludes the ability to go back to iron sights if this red dot fails somewhat going against your "rule of redundancy. Does your opinion still stand on this set up in respect to what is available now 2023 ? Say using the 4th Gen Springfield Armory M1A Mount instead ?
cod vanguard be like
Nice video. I had my Garand at the range today, shooting 200yrds. I was shooting up some Bill Clinton Ammo. I didn't expect much. In my head I came to the conclusion, With my old eyes, 200yrds is about it for being able to hit a man size target. I did put NM sights on this old war horse. Is 300yrds doable for Antifa man sized targets with that red dot? They do tend to run on the small size, but conversely they glow white, from living in their Mom's basement.
Milkman3572000 does ANTIFA employ men now? I'm sure that they'd die of fright if they heard a supersonic pop wiz past them, and realized what it was, so I am sure that is plenty accurate.
Did you just assume their gender?
Yoy won best youtube comment of the year in my book 😂😂
Is it possible to purchase these anymore, is Hopco even still in business?
As of now, their website is up and running. It looks good to go
Helpful video, nice M1 m8.
Love mine. It's on an M1A.
Please share a video. I am curious if my old eyes could hit man size targets at 500 yards with this setup.
Is there such thing as M1 Garand Night Sight iron sights? I see there's a night sight front post for sale but nothing else. Anyone know of any available?
Looking for some springfield armory m1a reviews from you! Can't find any?? What gives?!
dude you need to do a M1A video.
you should do more videos like this
Many more in the recent news feed brother!
And then we never see him shoot it again...
Im currently engaging in squirts before i eat. The video is very informative
0:30 *PLEASE HELP* What model is this sight and where do you buy it for the M1 Garand? Is there a mounting kit you also need to mount the sight?
Also is the real M1 Garand (Iron Sights) Night Sights available to purchase anywhere?
Contact the manufacturer through thier email address before doing anything. Chances are your red dot that your thinking of using may not actually fit the one you want. Everyone at that company is great and will help you out.
Do you still have this gun because I want to do a build like this
Randomly Googling (rmr sight on socom 16) and it brought me to one of your old videos.. kinda cool to see something of yours from way back. Anyway, redoing this review with a Socom 16 would be pretty cool.
Awesome video.
Nice set up .
dude thats like putting spinner rims on a 63 galaxy...
I'm thinking that the marks on the on the red dot are caused by the ejection of the strip clip, and not the brass case. If it were the brass then I would not be able to mount a scope on my M1A because the ejection would just beat the crap out of it. But this is not the case. Although there are some brass strikes in the center of the scope tube just above the ejection port there are none on the scope above the strip clip feeder. NONE!
Mr.G T it seems you are an high speed Operator but can you tell me what is going on with Wal-Mart & our Military our Government exc. ??
Is this something that is applicable to any of the M1A series? Looks like the one you have in this video is the socom model, I recently purchased the standard will I be able to do the same with that model? Really great video Thank You
@Garand Thumb
How difficult is it to mount a trijicon ta44 on a garand? Can you use any of the mrd variations? Just got a m1. Thanks for the vids
I posted on a forum asking a question about red dot for the garand and so many people were upset about me even considering “ruining the gun”. Wth
I appreciate the fact this thing isn't permanent and can be taken off. If you added rails and shit to an M1 Garand it's kinda like damaging a relic.
that is sick!
Back before Jones became the "Flannel Daddy."
What backpack are you using in the video?
magnifique
Does anyone make a similar mount for a Ruger Mini-14? Hopco doesn't.
Wow. very well made video.
+Ａ Ｍ Ｅ Ｒ Ｉ Ｃ Ａ Ｎ Ｍ Ａ Ｎ Thanks AMERICANMAN
I take it the sight knobs have no function once this red dot is installed ? And is the red dot NVD capable ?
How do I buy this? Hopco isn't responding to emails. Anyone know of another manufacturer or another similar product?
TONY, not for nothing, but wasn't that around Thanksgiving?
armedpartisan I had waited a few days before sending the email. Still haven't heard back. I'll try again today.
Did you get through? I just emailed a question and he replied same day.
still think the sight would not be as good as irons. but excellent video and m1 :-)
can you review an eotech with 3x magnifier on the m1a? im aiming for that sight for when i get an m1a someday.
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I subscribed because of this video. I'll have to get one of these bad boys for my M1
Is there a video on how to zero in the red dot on a M1A?
A loop sling snug on the arms will gain even more accuracy
oper8or asf
I just want to see it with polymer stock,but with good old clip and ping
Excellent vid!
I did not see you live up to your channel name in this video.
What kind of ammo are u shooting? I have a Garand but only have reloaded ammo