Graces explanation on how a reverse radiant bond beeing one of Ishars physical spren bonding a cognitve shadow is the only correct answer and 90% of the reason for why i am here XD
1:01:24 I imagine this is that Google Intellectus thing the Shards have at play again. Sazed is metaphorically googling "How can Wayne survive?" and the front page answers all require resources that Wayne doesn't have.
You mention Nahel-bonding with a Cognitive Shadow around 1:43:20. We see that in Yumi and the Nightmare Painter. Painter, after the spirits link him to Yumi, actually summons a Shardbrush to combat a Nightmare.
I am enjoying this episode very much. Eric sounds so jaded lately. This was refreshing. Let someone who is excited and eager make the content while you can relax and get your mojo back.
I was thinking about the WoB about changing a shard. I think that if it was possible to change a shard to whatever you want, someone would have done it already. Like, imagine if Odium saw this possiblity and took the chance to turn Devotion, for example, into an intent more similar to Odium so that his original intent wouldn't change too much since we know he's warry of that from some of the interludes. Considering this, changing a shard is either REALLY hard/impractical or it is more like swapping to another facet of the original intent.
I think a kandra human hybrid would be similar to Vivena and Siri as descendants of returned that can slightly change their appearance, except I think they would have better control over changing their appearance, but probably be limited to human shape. Maybe they could interact with kandra spikes in some way as well
On the subject of whether a supercharged leecher could kill a spren, I think it's plausible. Just look at what happened to Aux. I know that's not exactly the same and some rules may be being broken there, but it's definitely a spren death that is more based in the power being consumed rather than annihilated by anti-investiture.
The memory thing feels like a distinction between Shardic knowledge and Vessel knowledge. The concept of Hemalurgy is Shardic knowlesge - it's mechanical. The existence of Hoid is Vessel knowledge - it's historical and personal.
The question about shard gaining knowledge reminds me of metal minds. A keep has access to all the information, but they must pull it from their metal mind.
Re: Yolen, I'd guess the fain life and any impacts of the Shattering have kept technology down, but could imagine they have some super unique magic and/or relics of the past there
So, lightweavers have a resonance, or a reverse lashing equivalent, where they can alter their Identity like a forger with a soulstamp. Or at least a lightweaver with additional personalities like Shallan. That's interesting.
I would compare Shard's knowledge to Destiny from "Sandman". He has all the knowledge of past, present and future, but it is contained in his book. The book is still a part of Destiny, however in order to counsciously know something he has to take it and read the right page. He is not omniscent, however he has access to infinite knowledge.
I interpreted the idea that Yolen was behind on technology was because they had access to the Aethers and whatever else powerful magic. IRL technology is developed in response to challenges people faced, bronze and iron working for example allow people to farm far more efficiently through the use of tools made out of such metals. They also provide tangible benefits in combat, allowing for sharper, more durable, and more plentiful (in the case of iron) weapons. But when people look to the magic system instead to solve their problems, when they use magic to plow their fields and when the number and power of aether-wielders singlehandedly decides battles, they're less likely to take risks and put in the generations of effort to make the significant breakthroughs we associate with early civilization since, well, there isn't as much benefit from doing so.
Unless Brandon said something that changes this in the ars arcanem for The Lost medal it says that if you use Atium as a hemallergic spike it will take all of the subjects powers which means if you use it on hoyd oh boy things could get scary.
Re: awakening, I feel like it makes more sense to think about it with respect to the shard and the intent it represents. For example the intent of Endowment would make it easy to bestow investiture and spren like awareness. Perhaps whether investiture from another shard is capable of that has to do with how antithetical that is to the shards intent? For example what the Threnodites do might make sense because taking investiture could reflect the pursuit of more power, the desire to ascend or grow, and the competitive or transformative essence that ambition embodies, and giving investiture could reflect the motivational aspects of ambition. They might eventually figure out awakening faster than a shard like Autonomy or Odium for example as their intents seem antithetical to awakening and more prone to corruption??
In a WOB that wasn't covered by this channel, Brandon mentions using proto-hemalurgy in Way of Kings Prime to bind one of the Unmade (in a room we never enter). In canon, you can only do it with metals, though (as far as we know).
Eric doesn't look like himself today
Graces explanation on how a reverse radiant bond beeing one of Ishars physical spren bonding a cognitve shadow is the only correct answer and 90% of the reason for why i am here XD
Always love opening RUclips and seeing a video. Thanks for doing this for all of us.
Ghost Eric made me laugh out loud
I'm a Cognitive Shadow now. But don't worry I'll probably get better with the next Return. -Eric
@@17thShardSomebody find a gemstone to bind Eric's Shadow!
Love you guys and what y'all do, parasocial relationship or no! Thanks for this!
Also, it's pretty chaotic even without Eric funny enough
Chaos without Chaos
Why isn’t “Brandon’s” clock set to 6:31. Spotted the Kandra!
1:01:24 I imagine this is that Google Intellectus thing the Shards have at play again. Sazed is metaphorically googling "How can Wayne survive?" and the front page answers all require resources that Wayne doesn't have.
You mention Nahel-bonding with a Cognitive Shadow around 1:43:20. We see that in Yumi and the Nightmare Painter. Painter, after the spirits link him to Yumi, actually summons a Shardbrush to combat a Nightmare.
I am enjoying this episode very much. Eric sounds so jaded lately. This was refreshing. Let someone who is excited and eager make the content while you can relax and get your mojo back.
I was thinking about the WoB about changing a shard. I think that if it was possible to change a shard to whatever you want, someone would have done it already. Like, imagine if Odium saw this possiblity and took the chance to turn Devotion, for example, into an intent more similar to Odium so that his original intent wouldn't change too much since we know he's warry of that from some of the interludes. Considering this, changing a shard is either REALLY hard/impractical or it is more like swapping to another facet of the original intent.
I wonder if a midnight spore-eater would be able to see through midnight essence.
I think a kandra human hybrid would be similar to Vivena and Siri as descendants of returned that can slightly change their appearance, except I think they would have better control over changing their appearance, but probably be limited to human shape. Maybe they could interact with kandra spikes in some way as well
Time lord known as “The Questioner”
I love it 😂
On the subject of whether a supercharged leecher could kill a spren, I think it's plausible. Just look at what happened to Aux. I know that's not exactly the same and some rules may be being broken there, but it's definitely a spren death that is more based in the power being consumed rather than annihilated by anti-investiture.
I got the dice display from Dragon Woodshop for my brother's birthday, highly recommend them too.
The memory thing feels like a distinction between Shardic knowledge and Vessel knowledge. The concept of Hemalurgy is Shardic knowlesge - it's mechanical. The existence of Hoid is Vessel knowledge - it's historical and personal.
I want to see a formal debate between Ian and Evgeni…
Yes PLEASE.
Been really loving watching these, swear ive watched every episode from the past 3 years at least twice
The question about shard gaining knowledge reminds me of metal minds. A keep has access to all the information, but they must pull it from their metal mind.
Re: the burdens of immortality: "The days are long; but the years are short."
Re: Yolen, I'd guess the fain life and any impacts of the Shattering have kept technology down, but could imagine they have some super unique magic and/or relics of the past there
So, lightweavers have a resonance, or a reverse lashing equivalent, where they can alter their Identity like a forger with a soulstamp. Or at least a lightweaver with additional personalities like Shallan. That's interesting.
I would compare Shard's knowledge to Destiny from "Sandman". He has all the knowledge of past, present and future, but it is contained in his book. The book is still a part of Destiny, however in order to counsciously know something he has to take it and read the right page. He is not omniscent, however he has access to infinite knowledge.
I'm very proud of myself for guessing Liyun correctly.
I want your Honor blade on my desk by the end of the day! The king is on my ass about this Desolation crap!
I interpreted the idea that Yolen was behind on technology was because they had access to the Aethers and whatever else powerful magic. IRL technology is developed in response to challenges people faced, bronze and iron working for example allow people to farm far more efficiently through the use of tools made out of such metals. They also provide tangible benefits in combat, allowing for sharper, more durable, and more plentiful (in the case of iron) weapons. But when people look to the magic system instead to solve their problems, when they use magic to plow their fields and when the number and power of aether-wielders singlehandedly decides battles, they're less likely to take risks and put in the generations of effort to make the significant breakthroughs we associate with early civilization since, well, there isn't as much benefit from doing so.
Do we know if the story that Nomad told about the Alethi visiting the sun was in reference to Canticle?
Unless Brandon said something that changes this in the ars arcanem for The Lost medal it says that if you use Atium as a hemallergic spike it will take all of the subjects powers which means if you use it on hoyd oh boy things could get scary.
is it possible that leeching a highspren would make you a surgebinder?
This was different without Eric’s jovial laughter! Still amazing
What is the bond called when a human bonds a dead shardblade? Is it still a Nahel Bond or is it different due to the spren's dead nature?
to paraphrase a famous comment about DC comics, Radiant is Shallan during the day and Veil is Shallan at night
Re: awakening, I feel like it makes more sense to think about it with respect to the shard and the intent it represents. For example the intent of Endowment would make it easy to bestow investiture and spren like awareness. Perhaps whether investiture from another shard is capable of that has to do with how antithetical that is to the shards intent? For example what the Threnodites do might make sense because taking investiture could reflect the pursuit of more power, the desire to ascend or grow, and the competitive or transformative essence that ambition embodies, and giving investiture could reflect the motivational aspects of ambition. They might eventually figure out awakening faster than a shard like Autonomy or Odium for example as their intents seem antithetical to awakening and more prone to corruption??
Those were hard WTCC
Yes
/Warbreaker/ is probably the most important book in the Cosmere right now.
Lol wild right? Warbreaker is the Cosmere’s Age of Ultron
Has anyone ever asked about the concept of using a gemstone as a hemalurgical spike?
In a WOB that wasn't covered by this channel, Brandon mentions using proto-hemalurgy in Way of Kings Prime to bind one of the Unmade (in a room we never enter). In canon, you can only do it with metals, though (as far as we know).
What if you leach a dawnshard?
I imagine the first thing to go would be what Zellion calls the Torment.
We know Dawnshards self-protect. So...probably something along the lines of "poof"
I find Eric being a disembodied voice a bit Aux.
If it called awakening how come people still need to sleep?