@@acereporter73 I feel like even that trilogy was still pretty good. It's hard to one up the first ones legendary status, but i feel like it got far too much hate, most of it coming from the books folks iirc. Also gotta watch the extended versions always. They cut out stuff that didn't make sense to cut out, but that's also a thing in the OG trilogy.
@@FloofersFX I don't hate the Hobbit because of the books, I hate it because of the god awful CGI they used instead of all the awesome practical effects that made LOTR as great as it is.
@@999maza The best CGI tends to be the kind we don't notice, usually also combined with practical, I'll agree with you on that. But the first trilogy also has a lot of that not noticeable CGI even when not using practical props in combination.
Aragorn wears Boromir's bracers around his forearms. He continues to wear them throughout the 2nd and 3rd films. And, yes, all three films were filmed at once; similarly the trilogy was written as one book and published originally as three novels. Christopher Lee was the only person on set that had met and shared a meal with Tolkien.
@chilibreath That's spoiler territory, but Yes! And he demonstrated and decribed in decently graphic, at least for him, detail to the point of Jackson being silenced.
What’s funny is the “One does not simply walk into Mordor” meme was Sean Bean not remembering his lines. He had a script on his knee and the shots of him subtly looking down is when he’s reading the script.
It’s not that he hadn’t remembered them, they where newly added in for the scene when filming and he hadn’t had time to rehearse or memorise them so Peter told him to just read from the script.
@@artloveranimation I recall being especially fond of "One does not simply TankCat into Mordor" with a picture of Sean as Boromir celebrating over Osgiliath, upon the back of Tank Cat. Ah, good days.
@@Bloodstorm365 Either way, that's amazing. It could even be more like looking down at a map like "IS NOBODY SEEING THE GIGANTIC F***ING ORCISH ARMY?? No, you do not just walk into Mordor."
@@sortastupid I feel that. If my mom didn't have a bunch of vhs's that she always bought at yard sales, I wouldn't have been able to watch anything as a kid.
To be fair, Pippin is not an adult yet, and Merry is barely an adult by hobbit standards. They’re like the 16 and 20 year-old tagging along with the group of 30+ year-olds. Of course, there will be chaos!
No, Pippin is 28 when they leave the Shire. Which also means he was 11 during Biblo's birthday party. The movie doesn't really show it, but 17 years passed between Frodo getting the Ring and Gandalf coming back to send him on his way. He "searched everywhere for the creature Gollum", it takes some time to search everywhere.
@@Djorgal 28 is not an "adult" by hobbit standards. Bilbo and Frodo share a birthday, having Bilbo's 111th the same day as Frodo's 33rd, which is the "coming of age" in Hobbiton. Pippin would be like a 16 or 17 year old in our world
The craziest part of this trilogy isn’t even the budget, it’s the fact that they filmed ALL THREE together on what was basically a shoestring budget for a big series. Weta workshop and the other crew really put in the work to bring this magic to life not to mention all the iconic performances and line reads.
Its also still has incredible battle scenes in scale and scope to this day over 20 years later. The only one I can think of that comes even close to the one in the third movie is that final Avengers Endgame fight
What's even better about the budget part, is that the original budget was meant for one movie and the studio was still skeptical about its potential performance. Peter Jackson literally went "cool thanks. [later] Fuck one movie, we're doing all three in two and half years."
The Mythril shirt was made by the Dwarfs as a present to the Elves to celebrate the birth of an Elven Prince. The only Elven Prince born in that time period was Legolas Frodo is wearing Legolas' baby clothes. No wonder Legolas only ever says three words to Frodo
18:51 It does shrink! The Ring can change size to fit the ones who’s wearing it, like Sauron himself, men, hobbits. Also this helps it when it wants to escape its wearer, like with Isildur in the river.
So the Uruk Kai at the end who throws a blade at Aragorn . The stunt guy accidentally threw an actual dagger at dudes face and either reflex or luck let him deflect the dagger just before it hit him.
@@terryjohnson5579 i had thought it was suppose to be a fake dagger and they just got it switched up. also explains why he deflected it because he had been practicing to do just that
The extended editions only help to answer questions and fill in context. I know there’s going to be some major questions that they’ll have in the next two movies that would’ve been answered had they watched the extended edition. Such a bummer that people don’t realize how much better the movies are with all the extra scenes (in my opinion the extra scenes are not extra but necessary)
8:19 the airbnb you are talking about is LITERALLY Hobitton. It is the full sized movie sets in the middle of New Zealand. It's not even that expensive. Problem is that it's booked every day through 2026.
When this came out, I saw it on the BIG big screen and when the Balrog jumped out of the fire and roared, I kid you not, the ENTIRE THEATRE rumbled and shook!! It was straight up AMAZING!
34:58 INFO DUMP so another actor was mean to play Aragorn, but something happened (idk they fired him or smthn) and they called Viggo and offered him the part. Well, Viggo said let me think about it Peter Jackson said, "you have like four hours". Viggo's son just so happened to be a huge fan of the books and told his dad to go be the greatest man to ever exist, so Viggo got on a plane, landed and immediately shot this scene. The best part, Viggo had never held a sword in his life before this scene. He just took to it like a duck on water and now the thought of someone else playing this role feels like a divorce.
Nah, i understand him. Even if something has an absurd number of episodes, it feels like you can just watch a couple and you know, just pause. Go about your business. It really helps to get involved in something. However, sometimes it is very difficult to force yourself to just sit and watch something for 2 hours in a row. It wasn't such a problem for me personally before, but now I hardly watch movies because of it. It's hard to explain.
41:54 "It would have started a war." Yes! Quite a few reactors have casually said that they thought that Elrond should have taken the Ring or pushed Isildur over the edge...but that would have indeed started a war, right then and there and the relationship between Men and Elves would have forever been changed!
There's also the fact that Elrond wouldn't necessarily have been able to cast the Ring into the fire either. But it does help for the credibility of the scene the fact that in the books, they don't actually go to the crack of Doom. They have this discussion on the battlefield at the foot of Mount Doom. Humans and elves had a flimsy alliance, so the elves trying to take Isildur's loot by force just when the battle is won would have been a slaughter. That's exactly what the Ring would have wanted, and Elrond showed great wherewithal and wisdom in not forcing the issue.
Christopher Lee was a step-cousin to Ian Fleming, met the two russian nobles who killed Gregorie Rasputin, took part in the finnish winter war, hunted nazi war criminals for the Nuremberg trials, and was attached to both SOE and later Special Forces, before becoming a professional actor.
It´s next level loyalty when you not even hesitate to wade through deep water when you can´t swim. As a comedic gag you see that when a guy dives in to save someone while forgetting about it. Sam did know and still went for it. Even while sinking!
seriously. going through these movies for the first time in... I dunno, almost 10 years now, I am finding myself getting extremely emotional at every sam scene. The dude is too pure. "Frodo wouldn't have gotten so far without his Sam."
Amongst the many injuries suffered by the cast over the course of the films, Sean Astin cut his foot open on a shard of glass as he wades towards the boat.
The missing scenes do add a lot of context, but some of what is cut from the third movie is criminal. At the very least I’d highly suggest watching the extended cut for at least that one. You don’t even get to know crucial information about Aragorn, a big part of their army, or the conclusion to the story of Sauraman
Okay, I checked. 1:13:49 *And you weren't lying! It Is true!* For example lemme pull some: _" _*_Hayan_*_ was a fat orc-lord from Isengard and also a good smith. "_ _" _*_Obghâsh_*_ was an uruk printer of Isengard. He was printing Saruman's books, and also The White Hand of Saruman on the fighting uruk-hai. "_ _" _*_Bûrgurûm_*_ was one of the uruk-hai chieftains during the War of the Ring. He fought at Parth Galen and survived, so he later travelled to Angmar and became known as 'The Monster of the North'. "_ That is genuinely wild! xD
29:19 Per the book, there had actually been a group of Underhills there who were overjoyed to learn of one of their extended kin in town. Frodo distracted them from asking about his relatives by mentioning he’s writing a book.
AHHH the girls over at Reel Rejects just finished these and now you guys?!? Christmas come early!! I'm genuinely currently wearing an extremely garish Lord of the Rings Christmas jumper 😂 I love it
2:05 The battle in the background was a simulation software they made with thousands of “unit” types, which were given behaviors and could be influenced by set events they wanted to see like that wall of Elven warriors, or Sauron’s defeat. A cool detail is the Army of Mordor fleeing like they did was the result of the simulation registering their commander had been slain and their forces routed, opting them to flee for the quickest and safest route from the area. I wish that tech was publicly available. Imagine recreating the entire Middle Earth map, and letting loose the units with lore accurate events occurring to see how they’d react.
As I recall from the appendices (unless it is different stages of the process, and they do not mention this later one), the fleeing in Massive was because the units got turned around and were just charging in search of enemies in the wrong direction.
@ I had heard it while watching one of the “The Making of” videos where they were interviewing the guys who worked on it and that was when they mentioned it. Granted it’s been a while.
20:55 I am pretty sure that there was an interview with Christopher Tolkien (the author: J.R.R. Tolkien's son) about what would have happened. If Gandalf took the One Ring, he would have been a greater threat to Middle Earth than Sauron.
The reason I enjoy reaction channels is because one day, some will inevitably watch Lord of the Rings for the first time, and in a way it's like experiencing them for the first time all over again. Have fun!
This is my PERSONAL perfect trilogy of all time. Everything is perfect. Music, cast, MUSIC!!!!, effects, lore, EVERYTHING!!! This movie I was scared of when I first started watching it at my cousins house growing up and I couldn’t get pass the halfway point but I gave in the next day and finished it and NEVER looked back since. The memories with this movie will forever keep me feeling nostalgic. This is just….GREATNESS!!!!
the scene where Bilbo makes that nasty growl used to scare the pants off me as a kid lol, and I watched a movie where the same actor was a serial killer so now that's all I can think about when I see him in these movies
The wizards and balrog are the same kind of demigodish being that sauron is, the eagles are supposed to be the size of half a football field and are also demigods, and also the ring has such a mind of its own that when sauron senses frodo at mount doom, he panics because he thinks it changed allegiances, it is easier for him to believe that his ring changed masters than that anyone would destroy it.
1:10:00 The History of Middle Earth is a collection of Tolkien's notes and drafts, with exhaustive commentary from his son/editor. The Silmarillion covers the same material, in one volume. I love the Silmarillion, but it's a difficult read.
1:20:23 - I can't believe none of you told the age old tale of "Aragorn reflecting the dagger wasn't planned, Mortensen just did it reflexively and freaking nailed it" I'll be seriously disappointed if you don't mention the helmet kick in the next movie either 😤
Tolkien nerd here, I apologise if this comes across a bit dry, but since they brought up the History of Middle-Earth 12 book series I just want to clarify that they are not the in-universe history of the world of Middle-Earth, they're the real world history of Tolkien writing the world of the Silmarillion and Lord of the Rings (excepting the Hobbit as it was originally not connected to his Middle-Earth mythos), they're a collection of his first drafts and subsequent iterations on those stories along with various essays and poems that his son Christopher Tolkien compiled and annotated in the years after his fathers passing into the twelve books. As someone who has read all of them, I would only advise it if you are very, VERY into learning how the stories came to be over time, as an academic pursuit. (if you thought the Silmarillion itself was a tough read, wait until you've read six different, highly inconsistent drafts of it) But, a fun thing you can glean from them is that Frodo's original name in the early drafts was going to be Bingo Bolger-Baggins. The stories Tolkien actually finished and saw published are: The Hobbit The Lord of the Rings. what we call The Silmarillion, while beloved, was never actually a finished project, Christopher Tolkien just took the most cohesive versions of his fathers incomplete myths and legends (much of which was written years before either the Hobbit or Lord of the Rings) and edited them together to form the semi-coherent book we now know. He would, years later, find more surviving drafts of some of the stories in the Silmarillion and would combine and re-edit those into their own books (The Children of Hurin, the Fall of Gondolin, The fall of Numenor etc)
Cool little detail: The experience bar in shadows of war makes the exact same noise as the one in the old "The two Towers" and the "The Return of the King" games It was confirmed that the devs wanted to do that as a credit to those amazing and beloved games. I myself nealy drowned happely in nostalgia when I first heard the sound. Those two old PS2 games where my favourit games as a child and I spent so much time playing them with my brother in co-op Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War where my favourit games from my teenager years to today I love those four with all my heart and I assume many Tolkien Fans do as well
They filmed all three movies together so they did the fellowship first followed by the two towers and then the return of the king fellowship was released in 2001 and the other two were released in 2002 and 2003. The total budget for all three movies was $281 million dollars and all three grossed $2.964 billion dollars. They shot all three movies simultaneously from October 1999 to December 2000. Fun fact Peter Jackson made a cameo in all three movies let's see if you guys can spot his other two cameos lol
As a major lord of the rings fan i love watching newbies watching this and seeing the amazement in there eyes. Amd yes the two towers game is EPIC. I just bought it for my ps2 and i spent a whole day playing it.
Someone else has probably already beat me to this and i dont think this spoils anything since the movies dont explain this well but the books do. You did see the ring shrink it can change size to fit the person but in the beginning when it falls off isildurs hand in the river that was because the ring wanted to leave him and it betrayed him resulting in his death its not completely sentient but it does have some will of its own
I really suggest watching the behind the scenes stuff for the trilogy on your own time, but these movies or anything like it will most likely never be replicated. The things they did to make it as real as possible were incredible. Here are a few examples. All the actors that were orc species took 2-3 hours to get their makeup/prosthetics on, especially if they were closer to the camera. All the chain mail in the movie was handmade by 2 guys over a couple years that linked individual plastic ring together and then spray painted it with a lightweight metal. 12.5 million rings in total and an average of 13,000 + rings per mail. I think my favorite shot in the first movie is the ring reflecting all the members fighting over who is going to take it since it was trying to corrupt them all in real time at 45:39. Even the filming and perspective tricks for Bilbo's house when he was with Gandalf were exceptionally done. Two home sets, one with bigger items and furniture and one normal. The deflection at 1:20:27 wasn't scripted. It was supposed to be close, but he had to deflect it since it came right at him lol
1:13:32 "Homie you're man-flesh" About that.... The Wizards aren't Humans. They were created by God as emissaries to the Mortal races, so they're more like Angels.
It's fun to watch all the different ways people try to explain the complexities of LOTR lore for people who aren't familiar and probably don't intend to dive that deep. In a way, the Maiar are sort of like angels, or demigods, or even lesser gods in the pantheon like Adonis or Anemoi in the Greek pantheon (like non-Olympian gods). They weren't created as emissaries, they all helped sing the entire world into creation at the beginning of time after Eru Iluvatar sang them into existence. I've seen people go "Well, Eru is Tolkiens' insert of the Christian omnipotent God that fit his religious beliefs", but then the Valar help create things, so are they lesser gods, angels or demigods? Then you get people saying it's a pantheon thing with Eru as the head god and the Valar as lesser gods, but what does that make the Maiar? I dunno, I think it's interesting.
Mr. Baggins. It seems you’ve been living two lives. In one life, you’re Frodo Baggins, a respectable hobbit who never has any adventures or does anything unexpected. The other life is lived in the wild, where you go by the traveling alias Mr. Underhill, and are guilty of keeping the ring from the dark lord.
"This Christmas feels like the VERY FIRST CHRISTMAS TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!" I haven't even gotten past 2 seconds. I am freaking the frick out. Welcome to Middle Earth Billy!! It's going to change your life.
Doesn’t look like it, but that’s kind of a good thing for a first watcher, the only scene I think needs to be in the theatrical for Fellowship is the concerning hobbits intro. Now when you get to two towers the absence of the Retaking Osgiliath celebration really is a shame.
@@gloomygloomstalker3878your wrong there unfortunately. The the theatrical release of fellowship cuts out a lot of Boromir and Aragorn stuff and a scene in Moria between Gandalf and Frodo that is crucial to two towers. Two towers extended cuts out a lot of Faramir and again Aragorn stuff. And I don’t remember much from return of the king theatrical but it at least cuts out the crucial scene of Saruman’s death
The only reason you should watch the theatrical is only if you can't sit and watch a longer movie or if you can't get into them. If you are genuinely interested in these movies the extended is the way to go. They help form actual emotional connections with the characters and actual understand them.
@@Dr_sharko I heavily disagree dude, and take this from someone who’s entire personality growing up was LOTR and who can still mostly mouth along to the movies and recite the trivia and even correct the fake trivia of these things, the theatrical is the better way to introduce absolute newbies into the series, most of the scenes cut aren’t super important except for a select few and even then the general gist of the character arcs and such are in the theatrical cuts. Once they’ve watched the films and are interested, THATS when you hit em with the extended edition marathons and stuff, but for a first time watch you pop in the theatrical, sit back, shut up and ride the wave with the person. And keep in mind; I do agree that the two towers osgiliath scene and the return of the king Saruman scenes are HUGE and should’ve made the cut to theatrical, but making someone sit through an extra hour of movie for those specific scenes isn’t worth it, people do have to make time for these kinds of things and especially here with a channel that has to use time to make content, if they save an hour here to go make something else to make money to pay for their living then that’s good.
...and of course, Lady Galadriel was the narrator in the beginning. She was there at the Sundering of the Elves, related to the Kinslayers, and beheld the Simarils...
I'm so happy you guys are watching this! Also, I agree with Sean! The Two Towers is totally my favorite! So excited for you guys to dive into it together! 😊
Was this the extended version and I just missed it? Also, I knew there was no way all three of these guys hadn't seen LOTR. But it's more reasonable that one guy hadn't see it. Props on the Legolas.... prop :) When it came out back in 2001, I was in my mid 20s, and all of my friends were obsessed with Legolas. Possibly for different reasons ;)
Yes! This just made my day. I grew up watching these movies and the extended versions are a must! I didn’t even know there were non-extended versions until this past year because my dad only had the extended versions on dvd. I was just chilling watching a 4 hour intense ass fantasy movie at 6 😂
If there's one thing that's always bugged me about the movies...it feels like they nerfed Gandalf bc of the various times he uses magic in the books which we don't get to see in the movies.
These three movies are my favourites ever since I was little (I watched them at the cinema) and shaped me as a person. They hav such a power and importance for me, I can't even explain it. I rewatched them I don't know how many times and EVERY time they move me like the first and I get emotional and cry EVERY time for certain scenes and lines. I'm so happy that he's finally watching them and that you guys are sharing with us your reaction. I love to see how people react to them for the first time and I love this channel so I'm really happy, for real
3:29 It is, but the subtitles already use his “new name”. It was Smeagle and he killed his friend Deagle. The name of Gollum comes from the flemy retching he does.
@@sortastupid I'll watch your reaction to either happily. I'll also watch if you go back and rewatch just the extended scenes. I agree with some other posters that some are more helpful overall than others and are more missed from watching the theatrical cut. As for me, I only watch the extended versions these days, but you watch what you want to and can find the time for and I'll watch your reactions either way.
These movies are all killer no filler. Each one is a master piece in it's own right but all together they are timeless. The themes hit, the choreography stuns, the landscapes are gorgeous! These movies will always rank in my top 10!
1:10:19 the silmaridean is a collection of letters and writings on middle earth essentially made into a history book on the ages before and after the main story which was assembled by his son (who these stories were originally for)... there were also extensive appendices in the lord of the ring books them selves
Yesss! I can't believe we made it! So excited for Ruff I hope he enjoyed the first one! Loved this reaction and can't wait for the next 2 interesting to know if The Hobbit Trilogy will be next? Okay if it's not. Thank you for gifting us amazing reactions love you guys.
The "Shadow of Mordor" games, both of them, can be played anytime. They are non canon but fit into the world pretty nicely for the most part. Plus they are SUPER fun and very unique due to the way the enemies are programmed. I know a playthrough would be super well received since there won't be any more games and there's a surprising lack of good 'first time playthroughs' on RUclips!
There is only one moment in any of these movies that actually brought me to tears; and it still does every single time I see it. If you know, you know. "My friends..."
9:45 you know the term weed actually came from the lord of the rings... it used to mean tobacco but it was so popular with stoners that they started calling there drugs weed
their* and idk if you know or not but Mary of the wonna is a plant that sometimes grows wild due to animals eating the buds and pooping the seeds like any other weed so it kinda fits
That sounds made up. A bunch of American stoners were reading some English academic’s fantasy series? Somehow I doubt there was much crossover between those two social groups in the 60s.
Toilken was a very devote Catholic implementing religious themes in his story so almost every Catholic I’ve met treats the books like their bible 0.5 it’s wild
It’s incredible how a nearly 4 hour movie consistently has people going “That’s it?!” at the end, desperately wanting more.
It's a very different "That's it?!" compared to what I heard in the theater when I saw the first of "The Hobbit" trilogy... 😬
@@acereporter73 I feel like even that trilogy was still pretty good. It's hard to one up the first ones legendary status, but i feel like it got far too much hate, most of it coming from the books folks iirc.
Also gotta watch the extended versions always. They cut out stuff that didn't make sense to cut out, but that's also a thing in the OG trilogy.
@@acereporter73fr. That’s why I made a fan edit of the hobbit trilogy
@@FloofersFX I don't hate the Hobbit because of the books, I hate it because of the god awful CGI they used instead of all the awesome practical effects that made LOTR as great as it is.
@@999maza The best CGI tends to be the kind we don't notice, usually also combined with practical, I'll agree with you on that. But the first trilogy also has a lot of that not noticeable CGI even when not using practical props in combination.
Sorta Stupid is never late to watch whis trilogy. Not are they early. They watch it precisely as they mean to! And I'm so glad they finally have.
Perfection
It’s funny you say that… I was literally just thinking the other day I wished they would watch this trilogy, and here they are.
THAT STILL ONLY COUNTS AS ONE !
Aragorn wears Boromir's bracers around his forearms. He continues to wear them throughout the 2nd and 3rd films. And, yes, all three films were filmed at once; similarly the trilogy was written as one book and published originally as three novels.
Christopher Lee was the only person on set that had met and shared a meal with Tolkien.
Hoping I'm not mistaken, but Christopher Lee also told Peter Jackson he knows what a stabbing sounds like, per his experiences in WW2.
@chilibreath That's spoiler territory, but Yes! And he demonstrated and decribed in decently graphic, at least for him, detail to the point of Jackson being silenced.
God when Christopher Lee died we lost the real most interesting man in the world.
What’s funny is the “One does not simply walk into Mordor” meme was Sean Bean not remembering his lines. He had a script on his knee and the shots of him subtly looking down is when he’s reading the script.
And what happens 2 of the best people ever walk Straight into mordor 😂😂
It’s not that he hadn’t remembered them, they where newly added in for the scene when filming and he hadn’t had time to rehearse or memorise them so Peter told him to just read from the script.
to be fair, it's because the lines kept changing while filming
@@artloveranimation I recall being especially fond of "One does not simply TankCat into Mordor" with a picture of Sean as Boromir celebrating over Osgiliath, upon the back of Tank Cat. Ah, good days.
@@Bloodstorm365 Either way, that's amazing. It could even be more like looking down at a map like "IS NOBODY SEEING THE GIGANTIC F***ING ORCISH ARMY?? No, you do not just walk into Mordor."
I still can't believe Ruff hasn't watched any movies until he made a channel with these guys.
Welcome to the greatest movie trilogy in history.
Being poor will do that I guess. I watched idle hands and most Kevin smith movies if those count lol
@@sortastupidYou are living the dream. Watching LotR for the first time. I am jealous
@@sortastupiddont be upset ruff. if anything this is a blessing cuz we get to see you experience greatness for the first time
@@sortastupid was gonna say about your prequel comment "You should play shadow of mordor!"
then i remembered.
@@sortastupid I feel that. If my mom didn't have a bunch of vhs's that she always bought at yard sales, I wouldn't have been able to watch anything as a kid.
To be fair, Pippin is not an adult yet, and Merry is barely an adult by hobbit standards. They’re like the 16 and 20 year-old tagging along with the group of 30+ year-olds. Of course, there will be chaos!
Which is funny because Billy Boyd, Pippin's actor, was 33 in this role and older than the other 3 Hobbit actors.
No, Pippin is 28 when they leave the Shire. Which also means he was 11 during Biblo's birthday party. The movie doesn't really show it, but 17 years passed between Frodo getting the Ring and Gandalf coming back to send him on his way. He "searched everywhere for the creature Gollum", it takes some time to search everywhere.
@@Djorgal 28 is not an "adult" by hobbit standards. Bilbo and Frodo share a birthday, having Bilbo's 111th the same day as Frodo's 33rd, which is the "coming of age" in Hobbiton. Pippin would be like a 16 or 17 year old in our world
The craziest part of this trilogy isn’t even the budget, it’s the fact that they filmed ALL THREE together on what was basically a shoestring budget for a big series. Weta workshop and the other crew really put in the work to bring this magic to life not to mention all the iconic performances and line reads.
Its also still has incredible battle scenes in scale and scope to this day over 20 years later. The only one I can think of that comes even close to the one in the third movie is that final Avengers Endgame fight
What's even better about the budget part, is that the original budget was meant for one movie and the studio was still skeptical about its potential performance. Peter Jackson literally went "cool thanks. [later] Fuck one movie, we're doing all three in two and half years."
The Mythril shirt was made by the Dwarfs as a present to the Elves to celebrate the birth of an Elven Prince.
The only Elven Prince born in that time period was Legolas
Frodo is wearing Legolas' baby clothes.
No wonder Legolas only ever says three words to Frodo
Leg-O-Lamb be like: He stole my MF fit! Link for link! Chain for chain!
19:03 The ring does shrink. It shrinks to fit the hands of the new owners.
So what you’re saying is that THE RING is for the streets?
It also grows when it wants to abandon someone
@@mannequinmar20 I actually never connected those dots but it makes a lot of sense.
@@JoshuaRadford-w7d yeah, that's why they put it on a chain
Yes it does
18:51 It does shrink! The Ring can change size to fit the ones who’s wearing it, like Sauron himself, men, hobbits. Also this helps it when it wants to escape its wearer, like with Isildur in the river.
So the Uruk Kai at the end who throws a blade at Aragorn . The stunt guy accidentally threw an actual dagger at dudes face and either reflex or luck let him deflect the dagger just before it hit him.
Like he was supposed to bluster a bit and charge him but lost grip and threw it
@@terryjohnson5579 i had thought it was suppose to be a fake dagger and they just got it switched up. also explains why he deflected it because he had been practicing to do just that
@Zalied now I think about it you may be right. Either way it's just luck that Viggo didn't lose an eye or suffer serious injury
@@terryjohnson5579 well you know what he did break......
@Zalied ya but that the next movie. Lol I also know Orlando Bloom fucked himself up at one point and so did the actor who plays Gimli
The extended editions only help to answer questions and fill in context. I know there’s going to be some major questions that they’ll have in the next two movies that would’ve been answered had they watched the extended edition. Such a bummer that people don’t realize how much better the movies are with all the extra scenes (in my opinion the extra scenes are not extra but necessary)
Imagine the extreme extended cut if they included Tom Bombadil.
@ now there’s an idea
Sorta stupid is never late. Nor are they early. They post the video precisely when they mean to!
As a non member I’ve been eyeing the playlist for a week or two waiting for the official drop man 👀
When they don’t upload the next one for a while: “Alright then. Keep your secrets.”
Still feels a little late..
8:19 the airbnb you are talking about is LITERALLY Hobitton. It is the full sized movie sets in the middle of New Zealand. It's not even that expensive. Problem is that it's booked every day through 2026.
Dang. I believe it, but dang.
When this came out, I saw it on the BIG big screen and when the Balrog jumped out of the fire and roared, I kid you not, the ENTIRE THEATRE rumbled and shook!! It was straight up AMAZING!
Oh I wish!!
That Ruff knows Elijah Wood as “Ryan from Wilfred” I think tells me more about him than anything else I’ve come across so far 😂😂😂😂
Oh hell yes! I love Wilfred so much
Totally
Wilfred is actually goated. The ending is meh but the fun and humor of the series is impeccable.
@Courier_Seven huh, I remember really liking the first season, but not why I stopped watching it, so, good to know
@@JeM130177 it makes me feel Soo old at 36.
"I Wonder if the trees are taking that personally?" - Brilliant line 😂
34:58 INFO DUMP so another actor was mean to play Aragorn, but something happened (idk they fired him or smthn) and they called Viggo and offered him the part. Well, Viggo said let me think about it Peter Jackson said, "you have like four hours". Viggo's son just so happened to be a huge fan of the books and told his dad to go be the greatest man to ever exist, so Viggo got on a plane, landed and immediately shot this scene. The best part, Viggo had never held a sword in his life before this scene. He just took to it like a duck on water and now the thought of someone else playing this role feels like a divorce.
+1 for 'Where there's a whip there a way' left right left right.
5:24 "i ain't watching a 3 hour movie" coming from the guy who watched 1000+ episodes of One Piece
Nah, i understand him. Even if something has an absurd number of episodes, it feels like you can just watch a couple and you know, just pause. Go about your business. It really helps to get involved in something. However, sometimes it is very difficult to force yourself to just sit and watch something for 2 hours in a row. It wasn't such a problem for me personally before, but now I hardly watch movies because of it. It's hard to explain.
He said that was his opinion when he was younger as an explanation for why he hadn’t watched them, clearly that changed.
41:54 "It would have started a war."
Yes! Quite a few reactors have casually said that they thought that Elrond should have taken the Ring or pushed Isildur over the edge...but that would have indeed started a war, right then and there and the relationship between Men and Elves would have forever been changed!
There's also the fact that Elrond wouldn't necessarily have been able to cast the Ring into the fire either.
But it does help for the credibility of the scene the fact that in the books, they don't actually go to the crack of Doom. They have this discussion on the battlefield at the foot of Mount Doom. Humans and elves had a flimsy alliance, so the elves trying to take Isildur's loot by force just when the battle is won would have been a slaughter. That's exactly what the Ring would have wanted, and Elrond showed great wherewithal and wisdom in not forcing the issue.
Christopher Lee was a step-cousin to Ian Fleming, met the two russian nobles who killed Gregorie Rasputin, took part in the finnish winter war, hunted nazi war criminals for the Nuremberg trials, and was attached to both SOE and later Special Forces, before becoming a professional actor.
Also has released a heavy metal album and I believe he is a distant relation to Charlemagne
He also witnessed the last public execution by guillotine in france which is a cool fact
Bro also is a practiced sword master and created Form II of lightsaber combat. He also was taught how to sing opera style.
And he _knew_ Tolkien
and he served as the inspiration for James Bond
The ring did shrink. It can change its size. Thats how it betrayed isildor it grew and slipped off his finger at the right moment to get him killed.
Thank u so much. I love how you are supporting, giving context and not spoiling movie for him.❤❤
Not the extended cut?! ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY WATCH THE NON EXTENDED EDITION!
THIS!! No joke, after experiencing the Extended editions, I cannot watch the trilogy any other way!!
Why tho? @@hillarywilliamsonperez4021
It´s next level loyalty when you not even hesitate to wade through deep water when you can´t swim. As a comedic gag you see that when a guy dives in to save someone while forgetting about it. Sam did know and still went for it. Even while sinking!
seriously. going through these movies for the first time in... I dunno, almost 10 years now, I am finding myself getting extremely emotional at every sam scene. The dude is too pure.
"Frodo wouldn't have gotten so far without his Sam."
Amongst the many injuries suffered by the cast over the course of the films, Sean Astin cut his foot open on a shard of glass as he wades towards the boat.
Fun fact! “And you shall have my bow” is the only time Legolas ever directly talks to Frodo in all three movies.
I’m surprised you guys aren’t watching the Extended Cuts for these films
This is Ruff's first time. We wanted to give him the experience we had. Also time constraints didn't fully allow for it.
@ Makes sense, and fair enough
@@zillalordstudios5409 We all definitely want to go back and at least watch the missing extended cut scenes.
@@sortastupidthat'd make a good video.
The missing scenes do add a lot of context, but some of what is cut from the third movie is criminal. At the very least I’d highly suggest watching the extended cut for at least that one.
You don’t even get to know crucial information about Aragorn, a big part of their army, or the conclusion to the story of Sauraman
Okay, I checked. 1:13:49 *And you weren't lying! It Is true!*
For example lemme pull some:
_" _*_Hayan_*_ was a fat orc-lord from Isengard and also a good smith. "_
_" _*_Obghâsh_*_ was an uruk printer of Isengard. He was printing Saruman's books, and also The White Hand of Saruman on the fighting uruk-hai. "_
_" _*_Bûrgurûm_*_ was one of the uruk-hai chieftains during the War of the Ring. He fought at Parth Galen and survived, so he later travelled to Angmar and became known as 'The Monster of the North'. "_
That is genuinely wild! xD
29:19 Per the book, there had actually been a group of Underhills there who were overjoyed to learn of one of their extended kin in town. Frodo distracted them from asking about his relatives by mentioning he’s writing a book.
AHHH the girls over at Reel Rejects just finished these and now you guys?!? Christmas come early!! I'm genuinely currently wearing an extremely garish Lord of the Rings Christmas jumper 😂 I love it
Bruh I just finished they reaction Roxy need to take a drink love her but chick was thirty thru the trilogy lmao
Frodo's parents both drowned after falling out of a boat, which is how Frodo came to live with Bilbo. Sam going under hits that much more suddenly.
"I don't care about your bow and arrow boy."
"Oh, you will."
"SIR!"
😂😂😂
This movie is part of the reason that Avatar the last Airbender got made. Because fantasy was coming back, so nickelodeon wanted a show.
Even Lord of the Rings has a Billy- the pony!
In german he is called Lutz 🤣
2:05 The battle in the background was a simulation software they made with thousands of “unit” types, which were given behaviors and could be influenced by set events they wanted to see like that wall of Elven warriors, or Sauron’s defeat. A cool detail is the Army of Mordor fleeing like they did was the result of the simulation registering their commander had been slain and their forces routed, opting them to flee for the quickest and safest route from the area. I wish that tech was publicly available. Imagine recreating the entire Middle Earth map, and letting loose the units with lore accurate events occurring to see how they’d react.
@@hiddendesire3076 or even a LOTR RTS/Civ style game!
As I recall from the appendices (unless it is different stages of the process, and they do not mention this later one), the fleeing in Massive was because the units got turned around and were just charging in search of enemies in the wrong direction.
@ I had heard it while watching one of the “The Making of” videos where they were interviewing the guys who worked on it and that was when they mentioned it. Granted it’s been a while.
FIIINNAAALLLYYYY I HAVE BEEN WAITING RUFF'S REACTION TO THE GREATEST CINEMATIC TRILOGY OF ALL TIME
20:55 I am pretty sure that there was an interview with Christopher Tolkien (the author: J.R.R. Tolkien's son) about what would have happened. If Gandalf took the One Ring, he would have been a greater threat to Middle Earth than Sauron.
fun fact the knife Aragorn deflects at the end is a real knife.
I was about to comment that's how they save on the budget instead of special effects just throw real swords at your actors and hope they hit it😂
If you boys want a fun run of videos, look up the ones where LIGHTSABERS are put in Lord of the Rings and Pirates of the Caribbean...
The reason I enjoy reaction channels is because one day, some will inevitably watch Lord of the Rings for the first time, and in a way it's like experiencing them for the first time all over again. Have fun!
This is my PERSONAL perfect trilogy of all time. Everything is perfect. Music, cast, MUSIC!!!!, effects, lore, EVERYTHING!!! This movie I was scared of when I first started watching it at my cousins house growing up and I couldn’t get pass the halfway point but I gave in the next day and finished it and NEVER looked back since. The memories with this movie will forever keep me feeling nostalgic. This is just….GREATNESS!!!!
51:21 Loving Erik's French laugh here
the scene where Bilbo makes that nasty growl used to scare the pants off me as a kid lol, and I watched a movie where the same actor was a serial killer so now that's all I can think about when I see him in these movies
32:43. Nice callback to the Bakshi version. Going to be stuck in my head all day now!
Where there's a whip theres a way
The wizards and balrog are the same kind of demigodish being that sauron is, the eagles are supposed to be the size of half a football field and are also demigods, and also the ring has such a mind of its own that when sauron senses frodo at mount doom, he panics because he thinks it changed allegiances, it is easier for him to believe that his ring changed masters than that anyone would destroy it.
1:10:00 The History of Middle Earth is a collection of Tolkien's notes and drafts, with exhaustive commentary from his son/editor. The Silmarillion covers the same material, in one volume. I love the Silmarillion, but it's a difficult read.
1:20:23 - I can't believe none of you told the age old tale of "Aragorn reflecting the dagger wasn't planned, Mortensen just did it reflexively and freaking nailed it"
I'll be seriously disappointed if you don't mention the helmet kick in the next movie either 😤
"Why did I think that guy's name was Smeagol?"
"No clue, brother."
😂
Tolkien nerd here, I apologise if this comes across a bit dry, but since they brought up the History of Middle-Earth 12 book series I just want to clarify that they are not the in-universe history of the world of Middle-Earth, they're the real world history of Tolkien writing the world of the Silmarillion and Lord of the Rings (excepting the Hobbit as it was originally not connected to his Middle-Earth mythos), they're a collection of his first drafts and subsequent iterations on those stories along with various essays and poems that his son Christopher Tolkien compiled and annotated in the years after his fathers passing into the twelve books.
As someone who has read all of them, I would only advise it if you are very, VERY into learning how the stories came to be over time, as an academic pursuit. (if you thought the Silmarillion itself was a tough read, wait until you've read six different, highly inconsistent drafts of it)
But, a fun thing you can glean from them is that Frodo's original name in the early drafts was going to be Bingo Bolger-Baggins.
The stories Tolkien actually finished and saw published are:
The Hobbit
The Lord of the Rings.
what we call The Silmarillion, while beloved, was never actually a finished project, Christopher Tolkien just took the most cohesive versions of his fathers incomplete myths and legends (much of which was written years before either the Hobbit or Lord of the Rings) and edited them together to form the semi-coherent book we now know. He would, years later, find more surviving drafts of some of the stories in the Silmarillion and would combine and re-edit those into their own books (The Children of Hurin, the Fall of Gondolin, The fall of Numenor etc)
I recommend to watch the next 2 movies as the extended edition! There are so so many more scenes added
No
You may be interested to know that bilbo in old English vernacular means swordwright, someone who makes swords. Fun fact lol.
we need a remastered two towers and return of the king game.
Or just play the original ones.
Bruv shhh they are playing shadow of Mordor and shadow or war those are better
@@josephblasko7309 So? Doesn’t mean they can’t play the classics.
@@josephblasko7309 yea they are better but the old ones will always have nostalgia on their side
Cool little detail:
The experience bar in shadows of war makes the exact same noise as the one in the old "The two Towers" and the "The Return of the King" games
It was confirmed that the devs wanted to do that as a credit to those amazing and beloved games.
I myself nealy drowned happely in nostalgia when I first heard the sound.
Those two old PS2 games where my favourit games as a child and I spent so much time playing them with my brother in co-op
Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War where my favourit games from my teenager years to today
I love those four with all my heart and I assume many Tolkien Fans do as well
43:49
Only just hit me the look on Frodo's face is "Oh, we've been guided by a KING this whole time!"
They filmed all three movies together so they did the fellowship first followed by the two towers and then the return of the king fellowship was released in 2001 and the other two were released in 2002 and 2003. The total budget for all three movies was $281 million dollars and all three grossed $2.964 billion dollars. They shot all three movies simultaneously from October 1999 to December 2000. Fun fact Peter Jackson made a cameo in all three movies let's see if you guys can spot his other two cameos lol
As a major lord of the rings fan i love watching newbies watching this and seeing the amazement in there eyes. Amd yes the two towers game is EPIC. I just bought it for my ps2 and i spent a whole day playing it.
Someone else has probably already beat me to this and i dont think this spoils anything since the movies dont explain this well but the books do.
You did see the ring shrink it can change size to fit the person but in the beginning when it falls off isildurs hand in the river that was because the ring wanted to leave him and it betrayed him resulting in his death its not completely sentient but it does have some will of its own
Few things in life give me as much joy as seeing people watch this masterpiece for the first time.
I really suggest watching the behind the scenes stuff for the trilogy on your own time, but these movies or anything like it will most likely never be replicated. The things they did to make it as real as possible were incredible. Here are a few examples. All the actors that were orc species took 2-3 hours to get their makeup/prosthetics on, especially if they were closer to the camera. All the chain mail in the movie was handmade by 2 guys over a couple years that linked individual plastic ring together and then spray painted it with a lightweight metal. 12.5 million rings in total and an average of 13,000 + rings per mail. I think my favorite shot in the first movie is the ring reflecting all the members fighting over who is going to take it since it was trying to corrupt them all in real time at 45:39. Even the filming and perspective tricks for Bilbo's house when he was with Gandalf were exceptionally done. Two home sets, one with bigger items and furniture and one normal. The deflection at 1:20:27 wasn't scripted. It was supposed to be close, but he had to deflect it since it came right at him lol
@13:05 Funny thing is that Bilbo wasn't insulting the crowd, he just phrased what he was saying like a riddle.
1:13:32
"Homie you're man-flesh"
About that....
The Wizards aren't Humans.
They were created by God as emissaries to the Mortal races, so they're more like Angels.
It's fun to watch all the different ways people try to explain the complexities of LOTR lore for people who aren't familiar and probably don't intend to dive that deep. In a way, the Maiar are sort of like angels, or demigods, or even lesser gods in the pantheon like Adonis or Anemoi in the Greek pantheon (like non-Olympian gods). They weren't created as emissaries, they all helped sing the entire world into creation at the beginning of time after Eru Iluvatar sang them into existence. I've seen people go "Well, Eru is Tolkiens' insert of the Christian omnipotent God that fit his religious beliefs", but then the Valar help create things, so are they lesser gods, angels or demigods? Then you get people saying it's a pantheon thing with Eru as the head god and the Valar as lesser gods, but what does that make the Maiar? I dunno, I think it's interesting.
Mr. Baggins. It seems you’ve been living two lives. In one life, you’re Frodo Baggins, a respectable hobbit who never has any adventures or does anything unexpected. The other life is lived in the wild, where you go by the traveling alias Mr. Underhill, and are guilty of keeping the ring from the dark lord.
Perfect
Also, your dog got out again.
Every Thanksgiving we watch Lord of The Rings for the whole day. It’s a great way to celebrate.
"This Christmas feels like the VERY FIRST CHRISTMAS TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!" I haven't even gotten past 2 seconds. I am freaking the frick out. Welcome to Middle Earth Billy!! It's going to change your life.
Only five minutes in and I noticed that you guys are watching the theatric version and not extended editions. The films are amazing regardless.
BUT IS IT THE EXTENDED EDITION?!?
Doesn’t look like it, but that’s kind of a good thing for a first watcher, the only scene I think needs to be in the theatrical for Fellowship is the concerning hobbits intro. Now when you get to two towers the absence of the Retaking Osgiliath celebration really is a shame.
@@gloomygloomstalker3878your wrong there unfortunately. The the theatrical release of fellowship cuts out a lot of Boromir and Aragorn stuff and a scene in Moria between Gandalf and Frodo that is crucial to two towers. Two towers extended cuts out a lot of Faramir and again Aragorn stuff. And I don’t remember much from return of the king theatrical but it at least cuts out the crucial scene of Saruman’s death
The only reason you should watch the theatrical is only if you can't sit and watch a longer movie or if you can't get into them. If you are genuinely interested in these movies the extended is the way to go. They help form actual emotional connections with the characters and actual understand them.
@@Dr_sharko I heavily disagree dude, and take this from someone who’s entire personality growing up was LOTR and who can still mostly mouth along to the movies and recite the trivia and even correct the fake trivia of these things, the theatrical is the better way to introduce absolute newbies into the series, most of the scenes cut aren’t super important except for a select few and even then the general gist of the character arcs and such are in the theatrical cuts.
Once they’ve watched the films and are interested, THATS when you hit em with the extended edition marathons and stuff, but for a first time watch you pop in the theatrical, sit back, shut up and ride the wave with the person. And keep in mind; I do agree that the two towers osgiliath scene and the return of the king Saruman scenes are HUGE and should’ve made the cut to theatrical, but making someone sit through an extra hour of movie for those specific scenes isn’t worth it, people do have to make time for these kinds of things and especially here with a channel that has to use time to make content, if they save an hour here to go make something else to make money to pay for their living then that’s good.
PO TAY TOES
THIS is how these movies should be watched! From a distance, you are MY BOYS!!
1:05:42 "You Shall Not Pass!"
Harry Potter and now LOTR?! Y’all gifting us this holiday season
...and of course, Lady Galadriel was the narrator in the beginning. She was there at the Sundering of the Elves, related to the Kinslayers, and beheld the Simarils...
I'm so happy you guys are watching this! Also, I agree with Sean! The Two Towers is totally my favorite! So excited for you guys to dive into it together! 😊
I'm hoping yall watch the extended versions. It adds so much
good job on the "YOU SHALL NOT PASSSSS" at the beginning ruff!
Was this the extended version and I just missed it? Also, I knew there was no way all three of these guys hadn't seen LOTR. But it's more reasonable that one guy hadn't see it. Props on the Legolas.... prop :) When it came out back in 2001, I was in my mid 20s, and all of my friends were obsessed with Legolas. Possibly for different reasons ;)
I've fulfilled my lifelong quest of understanding the meaning behind "Billy."
Billy is love
Billy is life
@emeraldzack910 Everything is gonna be fine, Billy.
@@QuantumFalcon548 Also watch their adventure time reaction
23:30 Surprised you guys didn't mention that Sir Christopher Lee played the role of Count Dooku
Yes! This just made my day. I grew up watching these movies and the extended versions are a must! I didn’t even know there were non-extended versions until this past year because my dad only had the extended versions on dvd. I was just chilling watching a 4 hour intense ass fantasy movie at 6 😂
If there's one thing that's always bugged me about the movies...it feels like they nerfed Gandalf bc of the various times he uses magic in the books which we don't get to see in the movies.
These three movies are my favourites ever since I was little (I watched them at the cinema) and shaped me as a person. They hav such a power and importance for me, I can't even explain it. I rewatched them I don't know how many times and EVERY time they move me like the first and I get emotional and cry EVERY time for certain scenes and lines. I'm so happy that he's finally watching them and that you guys are sharing with us your reaction. I love to see how people react to them for the first time and I love this channel so I'm really happy, for real
3:29 It is, but the subtitles already use his “new name”. It was Smeagle and he killed his friend Deagle. The name of Gollum comes from the flemy retching he does.
Sadly they watched a theatrical cut. But on other hand, idk if Ruff could've handled 4+ hour movie
Ruff’s the one that currently wants to go back and watch the extended cut. But we need to see if the demand is there based on reception of this
@@sortastupid Please please do watch the extended cut!!! All the extra scenes are so good!
@@sortastupid I'll watch your reaction to either happily. I'll also watch if you go back and rewatch just the extended scenes. I agree with some other posters that some are more helpful overall than others and are more missed from watching the theatrical cut. As for me, I only watch the extended versions these days, but you watch what you want to and can find the time for and I'll watch your reactions either way.
Fun fact my english teacher in highschool was in the lotr movies, the second one I believe.
These movies are all killer no filler. Each one is a master piece in it's own right but all together they are timeless. The themes hit, the choreography stuns, the landscapes are gorgeous! These movies will always rank in my top 10!
I love how invested Ruff is by the time we get to the Balrog. I’m gonna rewatch those clips a lot, lolol
Try to watch the next two parts in the Extended version. It's worth it.
1:10:19 the silmaridean is a collection of letters and writings on middle earth essentially made into a history book on the ages before and after the main story which was assembled by his son (who these stories were originally for)... there were also extensive appendices in the lord of the ring books them selves
Bilbo smokes
Gandalf smokes
Ruff smokes
I smoke lol
I appreciate the fact that you guys watched the extended cut because in these movies a lot more questions were answered in the extended cut
Love how people are asking y'all to watch the extended edition when y'all already recorded y'alls reactions to the theatrical versions. Lol 💜
Yesss! I can't believe we made it! So excited for Ruff I hope he enjoyed the first one! Loved this reaction and can't wait for the next 2 interesting to know if The Hobbit Trilogy will be next? Okay if it's not. Thank you for gifting us amazing reactions love you guys.
All 3 were filmed together. It was almost unheard of in the industry, and a real gamble for the studio
The "Shadow of Mordor" games, both of them, can be played anytime. They are non canon but fit into the world pretty nicely for the most part. Plus they are SUPER fun and very unique due to the way the enemies are programmed. I know a playthrough would be super well received since there won't be any more games and there's a surprising lack of good 'first time playthroughs' on RUclips!
Whaaaat my favorite people watching one of my favorite movies? Bet.
There is only one moment in any of these movies that actually brought me to tears; and it still does every single time I see it.
If you know, you know. "My friends..."
9:45 you know the term weed actually came from the lord of the rings... it used to mean tobacco but it was so popular with stoners that they started calling there drugs weed
their* and idk if you know or not but Mary of the wonna is a plant that sometimes grows wild due to animals eating the buds and pooping the seeds like any other weed so it kinda fits
That sounds made up.
A bunch of American stoners were reading some English academic’s fantasy series? Somehow I doubt there was much crossover between those two social groups in the 60s.
@@Longshanks1690 don’t know what to tell you man… it’s true
Hands down the greatest movie of all time I count all 3 as 1 movie!
Finally I was waiting for yalls to watch this! Best movies ever!
Haha i love that you guys referenced Max the airplane mechanic. Best tiktok guy period
Toilken was a very devote Catholic implementing religious themes in his story so almost every Catholic I’ve met treats the books like their bible 0.5 it’s wild
the ring does shrink, it changes size to fit the wearers finger