Is it just me or Michael could've gone through that last corner faster but he added another dab of brakes instead? Cool act from such a HERO! The phrase "don't meet your hero" doesn't apply for him
It's just a bit of fun and great to watch so stop arguing. Pastrana beat Vettel this year, they're all pros having a blast with no practice in cars they've never driven with fans in the passenger seats.
non, je ne pense pas, il va aussi vite a 0:39 qu'a 1:13 et ont voit bien que vettel creuse l'écart a chaque passages mais bon... shumacher a 7 titres et plus de 90 victoires donc...
Not sure about that. Once heard a story of him sneaking into the pitlane while under park ferme and removing the restricter from his go kart. And this was at a charity event!
Why do we have these arguments on who's a good driver and who's not. To get into F1 in the first place suggests they're a brilliant driver. We will never all agree who was or is the best driver.
+Adrian De Souza Freitas PLZ stop kidding yoruself. SEnna is highly overrated. Schumi was a beast and he humiliated Senna as a rookie also having less hp
why is everyone talking about senna he's a great driver but there are lots of great drivers it's not only about the driver team has to be good as well some drivers don't get to shine cause of that reason Schumacher will always be one of the greats
I pointed out when you were speculating about other drivers possibly being faster, it's speculation and nothing more, because we don't know - the only other argument I've dealt with is the HRT one, and we can both agree now that it can't be used as a valid criticism. "Schumacher isn't like Vettel at all Schumacher said that himself." The first 3 years of their careers were almost identical, like I said, look at the "comparisons with Michael Schumacher" on Vettel's wiki page, you'll be stunned.
@XXStylepardXX die strecke geht zweimal am start vorbei, wenn du mit deinem finger den strecken lauf abgehst, siehst du das die eigentliche strecke doppelt so lang ist
I respectfully disagree. How can Webber have shown no sign of winning a title when he was only 8 points behind Alonso going into the final race of 2010? It was only he and Alonso getting stuck down the field after their pit stop that allowed Vettel to take the title :)
That isn't what he said. He criticized him for not being able to win in a HRT - I pointed out that it isn't a valid criticism to say that, yet he still tried to argue that it was. It's possible that another driver could be faster than Vettel - I never denied this.
No your argument didn't go like that, this is exactly what you said --- "I'm pretty sure he would do a great job but he couldn't win a Championchip with for example a HRT." You specifically put him down because he couldn't win in a HRT, I say, so what?! "You are giving your opinion that is not better then speculating." I haven't argued in favour of any driver at all, I was just pointing out an absurd argument, and telling you when you're speculating.
Schumi is my favourite drive of all time, but I'm very aware of how Vettel is pretty much Michael, I mean, go on Vettel's wikipedia page and read the section called "Comparisons with Michael Schumacher", you will be very surprised. "you don't have any proof that Vettel is the best" Not once have I ever claimed that he was, again, I was just pointing out invalid arguments and where you were speculating.
Everybody - STOP blaming any other circumstance on Vettel's success. He fucking won fair and square, just like he has for the past three years in F1! When are people going to realise this guy is the real deal??
No we might never know, I was simply pointing out that you were just speculating. You just linked a video showing Schumachers driving style, it wasn't a comparison between him and Vettel, like I said, many have noted their similar driving styles. Vettel looked to Schumi, and as far as I'm concerned, Vettel is carrying on the legacy, without Schumi Vettel would have never got to where he has now. They are the only german drivers to ever win world titles.
That's why I showed you the video they haven't comparisons in driving style. I admit if Redbull stays dominant then Vettel is going to reach or even set a new record that's one of the common qualities. That's all, they have same statistics but the person itself is not similar. Vettel is a German but he is not carrying the old legacy, he carries a new legacy with new rules where you can't push 100 precent, where you can't fuel, bad tyres that's why Schumacher is better in true motorsport.
Orange car, red helmet, white suit - Schumi. White car, dark blue helmet and suit - Seb. And... the balast in the both cars - with white helmets hahaha...
They have comparisons but Schumacher is a other person and his driving style is to different to compare with Vettel. I can't find the wiki page, as much as I was speculating when all the drivers would drive a Redbull Vettel wouldn't be dominant at all, that's logical.
41 anni... Comunque, fategli fare altri 20 giri.., non sono certo sarebbe finita cosi. Schumacher era e restera' il piu' veloce pilota di tutti i tempi. Spesso diciamo che i numeri non contano ma credo almeno siano utili, quindi una domanda: come si stabilisce se un pilota e' piu' veloce, o meno, dai gp vinti, dalle pole, dai giri veloci in gara... Personalmente credo che i giri veloci possano dare un'idea piuttosto precisa in merito. Ma ovviamente anche le pole: Alain Prost oltre 30 pole, e ben 51 giri veloci. Ayrton Senna, la leggenda, 65 pole (impressionante), ma soli 17 giri veloci. Michael Schumacher, 68 pole e se si sottraggono le tre inutili stagioni in Mercedes (ad eccezione dell'incredibile pole a Monaco del 2012 a 43 anni!!), a GP disputati siamo piu' o meno sul livello dei due colleghi piu' anziani, ben 91 vittorie & 77 sette sette giri veloci !!. Schumacher a mio avviso in gara era sovrumano. Piu' passavano i giri e piu' forte riusciva ad andare...
@attesz01 Yes, I suddenly found an digital image stabilizer from my video camera and I use it quite lot :D all though it can be seen little if u look closely.
That's what I'm talking about, I think 70 precent of the racers can win the WC with a Redbull. As I said Vettel is faster then Webber this time Webber was always slower then Vettel, we will se if he is good enough to race against Vettel in the future.
Oh Well, seems to me that Michael Schumacher is ahead in the race the whole time. Until the very last corner where he all of a sudden fails completly. Maybe he misses a gear or something, but I would assume he did the shifting of gears already before he enters the turn. Looks weird to me.
Webber was holding the position that's why he wasn't faster. Even when Webber was trying to past Vettel, Webber had a reason, the team took his new front wing so Vettel could win the pole. So I'm aksing you wich reason has Vettel to not obey the team orders? We don't get to hear everything from the conversation but I'm pretty sure they prefer Vettel over Webber so it is even possible that he has even more reasons.Otherwise Webber wouldn't be so furious at certain moments.
the age thoes'nt mutter, etc etc etc... SEVEN WORLD F1 TITLES MUTTERS!!!????. Untill some body will can't beating this record, Michael will rest the best driver of ALL TIME. POIT!.
Went who speak a well english talk to me in this way, make me smile, just this... realy. Unfortunally by the end of the end of the ninghteen century, the english is became the most used. But one day probably, the spanish will be the main language, yet in the first place as numbers of persons. Wich will be your reaction went a spanish, tought row YOU need to learn speak AND WRITE A better the spanish!?. The problem is that still today there is to much arrogant idiots that don't help but shut the others. I surely need to learn a better english, you boy, to be a better human been, becouse now you are very poor. If i'll want, would used the traductor but i prefere wrong, for became better... Anyway, talken with persons like you is totally useless. End of discuss...
Hello 'that guy'.., what i can answer you, i don't know. I just would tell you the my opinion about these legendary drivers. Senna was the undisputed king of the qualyfing, but as driver in races his only 19 fast laps on 180 gp (more or less), tell us was not like that. Alain on dry, was more fast: 51 fast laps, and the 77 of Michael before the usless three years on Mercedes, say the rest... Anyway every one would think what prefere, numbers a part.
I know he can't win in a HRT, I was pointing out that it's stupid to bash him for that when it isn't even a possible feat, you were basically bashing him for not being able to do something that is impossible.
I have researched a little but not everyone is sure about if Red Bull uses Tc or not. Experts or not we have no proof and to be honest they have always circumventing the rules.
If it's valid to criticise Vettel for not being able to win in a HRT, then it's valid to criticise Usain Bolt for not being able to run around the world 5 times in seconds.
True because Schumacher is a legend and their driving style isn't similar at all, just watch this video : watch?v=Uk2p2nRK-p4 I don't think you can compare Vettel and Schumacher at all they are from different era's. I was speculating about Adrian, I agree with that the only fact is that Adrian drives for Force India and Vettel for Redbull so we never will know if Vettel is the fastest driver on the track. That's what I'm trying to explain the whole time. Do you agree with that or not?
I said it's an absurd ARGUMENT to use against him, because it isn't even POSSIBLE to win a race in a HRT legitimately, it's a ridiculous argument to use. "Adrian Sutil he is probably faster then Vettel." Well that's just speculation and nothing more.
Is it that hard to understand that Vettel might not be the best driver in F1? He hasn't proved it because they havn't equal cars so why is my argument ridiculous? And I know what you are trying to explain but I'm saying the whole time that my argument is pretty good.
Hahah as I said don't underestimate the other drivers, every driver is a champion just by racing in F1. I would say Vettel is better then Webber but don't overdo it, he is much slower then Räikkönen and Alonso. He certainly not the best but yea it's my opinion but the only fact is Vettel has a faster car then the others and still there are drivers that manage to win against the superior Adrian Newey car. Take for example Monaco, special track where the top teams are equally fast Vettel lost.
So what are you trying to say? Vettel did it to he ignored the team orders, but I understand webber even more because he has followed the team orders everytime even at silverstone (ruclips.net/video/TYPCS3VXxGY/видео.html). Webber was faster but Vettel had more points then him, at that point it was critical for the WC. What does that mean? When you follow the team orders everytime and you don't get anything back, then I would do the same as Webber.
"Grazie ragazzi. grande lavoro!"
P1 Sebastian
@@guyb6665 Vettel : Y Y Y Y E E E S S S S S S S!
ROC is such a fun sport, I feel like there should be a roc tournament featuring all the 20 drivers on the f1 grid
We miss you shumi get wel soon!!!
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@@Apesway :(
@@oxey_ but the day will come
No one has given up and no one will
He is back ;)
after 5 years you missing your comment and your comment didn't
Not bad for a 41 year old against a 23 year old eh? ;)
@@sh33pyyy Ehem.
it doesnt matter in a Car
@@Hapsle Yes it does. Reflexes, Reactivity, etc
An 87 yr old could drive in F1
Woogie Harrelson I don’t think so.
I thought of this after watching Mick race against Seb today...
Between Schumacher and Vettel such a difference in age - and Schumi fell behind on a slightly meters. Schumacher is a true champion!
the age difference is not really such a big problem here. schumacher just lost this one
age is a very big difference cuz it makes you more tough.
He let him win just look lol
Yes, because in 2011, on the same race Schumacher wins>>ruclips.net/video/XzFMS2u1RXI/видео.html
hes also a cheater
Is it just me or Michael could've gone through that last corner faster but he added another dab of brakes instead? Cool act from such a HERO! The phrase "don't meet your hero" doesn't apply for him
I think so too.
i thought the same
Race of Champions is by far the best way to finish off a year in auto racing.
Schumacher are the Best in the World!
Keep Fighting Michael!
Is
muhammad al-saleh oh ffs shut up
@@j.1985 Wtf is going on with you!!!
He is f******* right 😐
@@j.1985 Stfu nigga
@@Victor-wy7yc resorting to racial slurs now are we
Get a life
So cool that Seb raced with both Michael and now Mick
It's just a bit of fun and great to watch so stop arguing. Pastrana beat Vettel this year, they're all pros having a blast with no practice in cars they've never driven with fans in the passenger seats.
gnarkillkicksass you mean vettel beat pastrana
So glücklich, dass ich damals dort war
Thanks for recommending me now
Keep fighting Michael
If you look closely, schumacher let vettel win this one on the last bend.. just saying
Yeah it's pretty obvious. He doesn't need to prove anything anyway, and he's the type who just takes these things as fun.
Haters gonna hate !!! :) Only hates, hates, and hates :P
non, je ne pense pas, il va aussi vite a 0:39 qu'a 1:13 et ont voit bien que vettel creuse l'écart a chaque passages mais bon... shumacher a 7 titres et plus de 90 victoires donc...
Yeah, you're right! It looks odd. Also Schumi got the better start and was leading at halftime. Could really be :D Though, both drive legendary!
Not sure about that. Once heard a story of him sneaking into the pitlane while under park ferme and removing the restricter from his go kart. And this was at a charity event!
Well, we've come full circle :)
LOVE YOU MICHAEL
Why do we have these arguments on who's a good driver and who's not. To get into F1 in the first place suggests they're a brilliant driver. We will never all agree who was or is the best driver.
Schumacher legend
Schumacher is the Master
+Adrian De Souza Freitas PLZ stop kidding yoruself. SEnna is highly overrated. Schumi was a beast and he humiliated Senna as a rookie also having less hp
@G.T Sorry, but what about throwing his car on Prost in Japan?) You said funny stuff about this.
@@SebastianRBR He did that to Brundle and Rosberg as well.
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proof that there are people out there who do not throw their camera around while filming.
well done.
why is everyone talking about senna he's a great driver but there are lots of great drivers it's not only about the driver team has to be good as well some drivers don't get to shine cause of that reason Schumacher will always be one of the greats
a rare seasoned piece of wisdom right there
I pointed out when you were speculating about other drivers possibly being faster, it's speculation and nothing more, because we don't know - the only other argument I've dealt with is the HRT one, and we can both agree now that it can't be used as a valid criticism.
"Schumacher isn't like Vettel at all Schumacher said that himself."
The first 3 years of their careers were almost identical, like I said, look at the "comparisons with Michael Schumacher" on Vettel's wiki page, you'll be stunned.
Nice work!
Which camera is this then?
Sei il più grande di tutti i tempi Grazie schumacher
@XXStylepardXX die strecke geht zweimal am start vorbei, wenn du mit deinem finger den strecken lauf abgehst, siehst du das die eigentliche strecke doppelt so lang ist
@attesz01 does this have an image stabilizer ? not that isn't good filming, jut asking :D
I respectfully disagree. How can Webber have shown no sign of winning a title when he was only 8 points behind Alonso going into the final race of 2010? It was only he and Alonso getting stuck down the field after their pit stop that allowed Vettel to take the title :)
That looks hella fun!
I wonder why Schumi let up at the end?
That isn't what he said. He criticized him for not being able to win in a HRT - I pointed out that it isn't a valid criticism to say that, yet he still tried to argue that it was.
It's possible that another driver could be faster than Vettel - I never denied this.
Are those x-bows?
No your argument didn't go like that, this is exactly what you said --- "I'm pretty sure he would do a great job but he couldn't win a Championchip with for example a HRT."
You specifically put him down because he couldn't win in a HRT, I say, so what?!
"You are giving your opinion that is not better then speculating."
I haven't argued in favour of any driver at all, I was just pointing out an absurd argument, and telling you when you're speculating.
@UncutShooterGames oh ok, thx now i see he changed the infos
schumacher let vettel pass. You can see it on the last lap last corner
Super.
Schumi is my favourite drive of all time, but I'm very aware of how Vettel is pretty much Michael, I mean, go on Vettel's wikipedia page and read the section called "Comparisons with Michael Schumacher", you will be very surprised.
"you don't have any proof that Vettel is the best"
Not once have I ever claimed that he was, again, I was just pointing out invalid arguments and where you were speculating.
Everybody - STOP blaming any other circumstance on Vettel's success. He fucking won fair and square, just like he has for the past three years in F1! When are people going to realise this guy is the real deal??
You basically bashed him by saying that he can't win in a HRT, and it's worth mentioning that NOBODY can, so you can just use that argument.
No we might never know, I was simply pointing out that you were just speculating.
You just linked a video showing Schumachers driving style, it wasn't a comparison between him and Vettel, like I said, many have noted their similar driving styles.
Vettel looked to Schumi, and as far as I'm concerned, Vettel is carrying on the legacy, without Schumi Vettel would have never got to where he has now. They are the only german drivers to ever win world titles.
Hey dude from 8 years ago, how are u now and I am a time traveller from the future lol
@@Zenedot Hey dude from 30 minutes ago, I'm very well thanks, I stand by what I said :)
we can really say that vettel is the future shumy!
well
That's why I showed you the video they haven't comparisons in driving style. I admit if Redbull stays dominant then Vettel is going to reach or even set a new record that's one of the common qualities. That's all, they have same statistics but the person itself is not similar. Vettel is a German but he is not
carrying the old legacy, he carries a new legacy with new rules where you can't push 100 precent, where you can't fuel, bad tyres that's why Schumacher is better in true motorsport.
Yes he won because Schumi hit the brakes at the end.
Yeah, I got the info from others. Thx.
Those are KTM X bow right
Who won?
vettel is my favorite but there are better drivers eg. schumacher, raikonnen senna ...
Therefore I said that, nobody could win with an HRT thats why we can't underestimate the other drivers and say Vettel is the best driver.
Nobody could win a championship in an HRT, you need the full package, any champion will tell you that.
Clearly guys, Schumi let little vettel win. He wanted the boy to be happy
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@dovic3107 lol xD who is the white?? :)
Orange car, red helmet, white suit - Schumi.
White car, dark blue helmet and suit - Seb.
And... the balast in the both cars - with white helmets hahaha...
They have comparisons but Schumacher is a other person and his driving style is to different to compare with Vettel. I can't find the wiki page, as much as I was speculating when all the drivers would drive a Redbull Vettel wouldn't be dominant at all, that's logical.
41 anni... Comunque, fategli fare altri 20 giri.., non sono certo sarebbe finita cosi. Schumacher era e restera' il piu' veloce pilota di tutti i tempi. Spesso diciamo che i numeri non contano ma credo almeno siano utili, quindi una domanda: come si stabilisce se un pilota e' piu' veloce, o meno, dai gp vinti, dalle pole, dai giri veloci in gara... Personalmente credo che i giri veloci possano dare un'idea piuttosto precisa in merito. Ma ovviamente anche le pole: Alain Prost oltre 30 pole, e ben 51 giri veloci. Ayrton Senna, la leggenda, 65 pole (impressionante), ma soli 17 giri veloci. Michael Schumacher, 68 pole e se si sottraggono le tre inutili stagioni in Mercedes (ad eccezione dell'incredibile pole a Monaco del 2012 a 43 anni!!), a GP disputati siamo piu' o meno sul livello dei due colleghi piu' anziani, ben 91 vittorie & 77 sette sette giri veloci !!. Schumacher a mio avviso in gara era sovrumano. Piu' passavano i giri e piu' forte riusciva ad andare...
schumacher is like 50 years old that not fair.
Kenny G Choonit well he wanted to drive it. And he was like 43 around that time.
You’re right. It would have been a fair race only if Schumacher was at least 70+ years old.
@attesz01 Yes, I suddenly found an digital image stabilizer from my video camera and I use it quite lot :D all though it can be seen little if u look closely.
That's what I'm talking about, I think 70 precent of the racers can win the WC with a Redbull. As I said Vettel is faster then Webber this time Webber was always slower then Vettel, we will se if he is good enough to race against Vettel in the future.
Schumacher race with retire mood
I wish Vettel stays...
@Reganam I agree, Schumacher is too good. Also Imagine watching the same video on the same day.
Я так и не понял: кто в какой машине находился и кто в итоге победил?
I like Schumacher.
Oh Well, seems to me that Michael Schumacher is ahead in the race the whole time. Until the very last corner where he all of a sudden fails completly. Maybe he misses a gear or something, but I would assume he did the shifting of gears already before he enters the turn. Looks weird to me.
No, Michael slowing on purpose, you can clearly see at final corner he slowing down
Er hat Vettel gewinnen lassen. 🙂
Yeah that is what I'm trying to explain.
Webber was holding the position that's why he wasn't faster. Even when Webber was trying to past Vettel, Webber had a reason, the team took his new front wing so Vettel could win the pole. So I'm aksing you wich reason has Vettel to not obey the team orders? We don't get to hear everything from the conversation but I'm pretty sure they prefer Vettel over Webber so it is even possible that he has even more reasons.Otherwise Webber wouldn't be so furious at certain moments.
The master still faster, schumacher
Vettel won
the age thoes'nt mutter, etc etc etc... SEVEN WORLD F1 TITLES MUTTERS!!!????. Untill some body will can't beating this record, Michael will rest the best driver of ALL TIME. POIT!.
You need to learn to speak better english.
Mate, Schumi is considered 2nd best behind Senna
Went who speak a well english talk to me in this way, make me smile, just this... realy. Unfortunally by the end of the end of the ninghteen century, the english is became the most used. But one day probably, the spanish will be the main language, yet in the first place as numbers of persons. Wich will be your reaction went a spanish, tought row YOU need to learn speak AND WRITE A better the spanish!?. The problem is that still today there is to much arrogant idiots that don't help but shut the others. I surely need to learn a better english, you boy, to be a better human been, becouse now you are very poor. If i'll want, would used the traductor but i prefere wrong, for became better... Anyway, talken with persons like you is totally useless. End of discuss...
Hello 'that guy'.., what i can answer you, i don't know. I just would tell you the my opinion about these legendary drivers. Senna was the undisputed king of the qualyfing, but as driver in races his only 19 fast laps on 180 gp (more or less), tell us was not like that. Alain on dry, was more fast: 51 fast laps, and the 77 of Michael before the usless three years on Mercedes, say the rest... Anyway every one would think what prefere, numbers a part.
That Guy lol. Senna is a typical dead hero
Schumacher may have let Vettel win but they were close no matter what.
cut the video just as seb was about to do some donuts
I know he can't win in a HRT, I was pointing out that it's stupid to bash him for that when it isn't even a possible feat, you were basically bashing him for not being able to do something that is impossible.
Michael it’s James
he didn't let vettel pass this year ;)
I have researched a little but not everyone is sure about if Red Bull uses Tc or not. Experts or not we have no proof and to be honest they have always circumventing the rules.
@fbazzoun yes...but if you are a schumacher fan,you know it...and i am a fan of vettel and schumacher
How did Schumacher win? Vettel, in the white car, clearly won by some margin.
Una bella Foto della Germania! BRAVI!
reminds me of those little toy tamiya car tracks.
If it's valid to criticise Vettel for not being able to win in a HRT, then it's valid to criticise Usain Bolt for not being able to run around the world 5 times in seconds.
if he did not brake, he would have hit the wall on the outside. it was a race.
True because Schumacher is a legend and their driving style isn't similar at all, just watch this video : watch?v=Uk2p2nRK-p4
I don't think you can compare Vettel and Schumacher at all they are from different era's. I was speculating about Adrian, I agree with that the only fact is that Adrian drives for Force India and Vettel for Redbull so we never will know if Vettel is the fastest driver on the track. That's what I'm trying to explain the whole time. Do you agree with that or not?
who win?
But you specifically made an argument against Vettel by saying he couldn't do that, how fucking pointless is that? There was no point to it.
shumacher would have had the Mercedes for the last 3 years, think about that, he would have been champ again
covington race I agree that would’ve made it 10 times world champion!
He had a lot of crashes and dnf in 2012 but always finished ahead of Rosberg.
Do people realise that drivers age? It's not like Rosberg never existed or what
I said it's an absurd ARGUMENT to use against him, because it isn't even POSSIBLE to win a race in a HRT legitimately, it's a ridiculous argument to use.
"Adrian Sutil he is probably faster then Vettel."
Well that's just speculation and nothing more.
Als sie noch Esprit Arena hieß
Is it that hard to understand that Vettel might not be the best driver in F1? He hasn't proved it because they havn't equal cars so why is my argument ridiculous? And I know what you are trying to explain but I'm saying the whole time that my argument is pretty good.
to be in F1 it needs lots of money, too. the most f1 drivers had lots of money, or a racing track...
Didn't understand the circuit 😓😓
Who is Vettel and which Car is Schuhmacher
Schumacher is in the orange car, which you can see cause of the red helmet and Vettel is in the white one
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It's not stupid because other people aslo can't run to the moon so you can't say wich one is faster.
It's not stupid because he can't win in a HRT so you need a decent car to win races.
@DPense that was one heat actually, schumacher won overall.
In total Schumacher won watch the full race.
I'm not saying it's impossible, I was just pointing out that 1. That argument was stupid, and 2. You're just speculating.
Hahah as I said don't underestimate the other drivers, every driver is a champion just by racing in F1. I would say Vettel is better then Webber but don't overdo it, he is much slower then Räikkönen and Alonso. He certainly not the best but yea it's my opinion but the only fact is Vettel has a faster car then the others and still there are drivers that manage to win against the superior Adrian Newey car. Take for example Monaco, special track where the top teams are equally fast Vettel lost.
No we can't.
So what are you trying to say? Vettel did it to he ignored the team orders, but I understand webber even more because he has followed the team orders everytime even at silverstone (ruclips.net/video/TYPCS3VXxGY/видео.html). Webber was faster but Vettel had more points then him, at that point it was critical for the WC. What does that mean? When you follow the team orders everytime and you don't get anything back, then I would do the same as Webber.