ENGINE FAILURE on Takeoff | American E145 Emergency Return to Philly

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @gaigegray8137
    @gaigegray8137 6 дней назад +17

    Im a Aircraft Mechanic for Piedmont Airlines at Philly, and was involved in the engine change on this aircraft, the engine internally failed in the compressor

  • @Philosophic2311
    @Philosophic2311 6 дней назад +9

    I was a mechanic that worked on changing the engine for that plane. The turbofan fanblade failed and tore up the engine. These pilots were great keeping calm and understanding the aircraft. Hell of a job.

  • @MB-hc2xw
    @MB-hc2xw 10 дней назад +55

    Crew of Piedmont, ATC, ARFF... all on point. Well done.

  • @Csmitty21
    @Csmitty21 10 дней назад +24

    I was flying out of PHL that day when we got stuck on the ground 45 minutes past our departure time. It makes sense now!

  • @Mark-wx8lp
    @Mark-wx8lp 10 дней назад +131

    Tone of voice never changed. These aviators always impress me.

    • @leeclemens879
      @leeclemens879 10 дней назад +22

      American 2777's tone definitely changed 😂

    • @slappymcgillicuddy7532
      @slappymcgillicuddy7532 10 дней назад +3

      @@leeclemens879 American had places to be:)

    • @Blast6926
      @Blast6926 9 дней назад +1

      Trained to do this ya мояои

    • @MilkBoy17520
      @MilkBoy17520 8 дней назад +1

      @@leeclemens879 The depression was palpable. Piedmont got in between him and that sweet, sweet hotel beer.

  • @aerialbugsmasher
    @aerialbugsmasher 10 дней назад +97

    I have a little over 5000 hours flying the 145. Those rolls Royce engines were bulletproof, they're the same engine core as the Allisons on the C130. I never had an issue, not even the slightest hint in that time, and I knew guys with 3x as much flight time in them that never had anything major. They were solid. So this is a rarity. Hell, the 145 is a tough bird. I miss flying it, it was slow, loud, and passengers hate it, but it would get you in and out of anywhere and do things no other airliner could do (like hold at 37000 ft at 170kias indicated). Last I checked there haven't been any passenger fatalities in any of them in regular airline passenger service. The closest one being the very shady Yevgeny Prigozhin crash.

    • @Raptor747
      @Raptor747 10 дней назад +10

      "Very shady" as in "was shot down"?

    • @jayschafer1760
      @jayschafer1760 10 дней назад +11

      ​@@Raptor747Don't ever be a pilot with one of Putin's enemies on the plane, not good for your health...

    • @jaysmith1408
      @jaysmith1408 10 дней назад +11

      I’ll take an Embraer over a CRJ any day

    • @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co
      @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co 9 дней назад +1

      @@jaysmith1408I'll take a CRJ to a 737 Max

    • @robertshanahan6623
      @robertshanahan6623 9 дней назад +1

      Envoy/Eagleflight used to fly the 145 out of my airport before moving to the 170 the past few years. I liked them for the 1-2 cabin layout, especially if I got the 1 side. I had both a window and aisle seat

  • @piaggio780
    @piaggio780 9 дней назад +11

    Great job the Captain did on that engine failure and subsequent ATC communications as well! Also the professionalism on the part of Approach/Tower as well!

  • @RipRoaringGarage
    @RipRoaringGarage 10 дней назад +109

    Fire Command wanted an answer as quick as a New York cab honks when it turns green

    • @jesserutt7413
      @jesserutt7413 10 дней назад +24

      Im pretty sure they edit out time gaps between radio calls so that’s why I think it seemed so quick

    • @FrankSzczerbaSr
      @FrankSzczerbaSr 5 дней назад

      Nah, he waited until after he made the call.

  • @markcaldwell486
    @markcaldwell486 3 дня назад

    Great job by the flight crew and cabin crew. All the support roles did a fantastic job too. 👏👏👏

  • @aquatrax123
    @aquatrax123 10 дней назад +3

    My flight aware flight feeder tracked this flight for sure plus this went right over my house.

  • @RandySRT
    @RandySRT 7 дней назад +1

    Pretty textbook. Well done guys. Train how you fly and fly how you train.

  • @grumpy3543
    @grumpy3543 10 дней назад +20

    And he shuts down both runways 😂

    • @-thefalcon-
      @-thefalcon- 8 дней назад +3

      Would you like 35 sir?

  • @KennethAGrimm
    @KennethAGrimm 10 дней назад +48

    AAL2777 was not happy about the go around. Oh well.

    • @scottking33
      @scottking33 10 дней назад +13

      we have some very very curmudgeony old farts at AA. silver lining is culture is going to change very quickly with all the retirements

    • @KennethAGrimm
      @KennethAGrimm 10 дней назад +3

      ​@@scottking33 Old near-retirement farts like @blancolirio ?

    • @TitaniumTurbine
      @TitaniumTurbine 10 дней назад +2

      @@KennethAGrimm I’d assume he’s got a few years at least.

    • @mike6340
      @mike6340 10 дней назад +17

      ​@@KennethAGrimm Juan isn't the personality type I would call an old fart.

    • @MoominDoogie
      @MoominDoogie 9 дней назад +1

      ​@@mike6340Dan Gryder? Now that's an old fart 😂😂

  • @olivethrush7450
    @olivethrush7450 10 дней назад +18

    Brilliant crew were calm and collectedas was the tower but those other non emergency AA and another need to remember to keep schtum and not request updates for their scheduling whilst there is a mayday in progress on that frequency. Bad .

  • @DavidBruner_NJ
    @DavidBruner_NJ 9 дней назад

    Very professional. Well done.

  • @victordasilva5255
    @victordasilva5255 5 дней назад +1

    Embraer is the Prius of airplanes

  • @chadgooden5259
    @chadgooden5259 10 дней назад +1

    Excellent! 👍

  • @kurttappe
    @kurttappe 7 дней назад

    They cleared AA279 to land on 27R, and then AA2777. Then with the FOD danger told 2777 to go around, but I never heard them get back to 279. There are those who say AA279 is still on short final to this day...

  • @gregarious119
    @gregarious119 10 дней назад +11

    Would like to know if PIC chose 27L because of the length or because of the chance of FOD. Either way, quick thinking and well-handle all around.

    • @vortexgaming8761
      @vortexgaming8761 10 дней назад

      What is FOD

    • @TheLoneWolfling
      @TheLoneWolfling 10 дней назад +5

      @@vortexgaming8761 "Foreign object debris (or damage, depending on context)", a.k.a. "whoops there's something on the runway (like, say... random engine parts) that the aircraft ends up hitting & damaging e.g. tires".
      In this case, said hypothesis would be "there's a chance of the engine failure having left metal debris on the runway that we could hit if we tried to land there, so let's use a different runway".

    • @vortexgaming8761
      @vortexgaming8761 10 дней назад

      @ Thanks for explanation!!

    • @spelldaddy5386
      @spelldaddy5386 10 дней назад +8

      I'm guessing it was because of length, only because they didn't mention the FOD until later in the downwind. Either way, it was the right call (27L is 2500 feet longer than 27R), but if it was for the FOD, it would have been good to tell ATC immediately when they requested 27L in the upwind, so they would stop clearing aircraft to land on that runway

    • @jerseyshoredroneservices225
      @jerseyshoredroneservices225 10 дней назад +7

      ​@@vortexgaming8761
      Foreign Object Debris.

  • @Jose_Ossa_dg
    @Jose_Ossa_dg 6 дней назад

    American 2777 was so bummed out to have to go around 😂

  • @BreandanAnraoi
    @BreandanAnraoi 10 дней назад +44

    Probably not the first time there's been a nasty odour in the airplane during an emergency

    • @wouldntyouliketoknow9891
      @wouldntyouliketoknow9891 10 дней назад +6

      Lets be real, its a Piedmont E145, the odor was there before the plane left the ground.

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414
    @thedevilinthecircuit1414 10 дней назад +29

    8:08 American 2777 PM sounds disgusted about having to go around. Sure, pal: land on a runway that may have FOD and put your entire jet in danger.

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 10 дней назад +1

      Not all pilots are created equal. Maybe he didn't know about the engine out happening on takeoff?

    • @chasedooley6237
      @chasedooley6237 10 дней назад +9

      he just sounded disappointed lol no big deal

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z 10 дней назад

      To me it sounded more disappointed than disgusted.
      Guy was probably looking forward to the end of his shift.

    • @DouglasCarnall
      @DouglasCarnall 8 дней назад

      He did sound very fed up. Better safe than sorry though, eh?

  • @flashgordon10001
    @flashgordon10001 10 дней назад +263

    I was the copilot on that flight... yeah that was a hell of a scary day wow

    • @robinreilly396
      @robinreilly396 10 дней назад +25

      Well done!

    • @TomSherwood-z5l
      @TomSherwood-z5l 10 дней назад +4

      How much work to maintain altitude with one out on that sort of jet?

    • @BirdDog.
      @BirdDog. 10 дней назад +6

      @@TomSherwood-z5lnot much. With those 2 engines mounted on the tail vs the wing you barely notice it

    • @rodcoulter997
      @rodcoulter997 10 дней назад +34

      Textbook job..A++…Declare an EMERGENCY…FLY THE JET…GET BACK ON THE GROUND ASAP….Mission accomplished.

    • @Zerbey
      @Zerbey 10 дней назад +15

      You got everyone down on the ground safely, so well done to you and your colleagues.

  • @FamiliarAnomaly
    @FamiliarAnomaly 10 дней назад +11

    count how many times communications had to be repeated...

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z 10 дней назад

      Keep in mind that audio quality for them might be worse than seen in the video.

  • @mikesarno7973
    @mikesarno7973 9 дней назад +2

    I can see my house.

  • @johnarnell4241
    @johnarnell4241 10 дней назад +2

    Perfect emergency, if there's such a thing well done everybody.

  • @davidbross6942
    @davidbross6942 9 дней назад

    Now, it this had been a Southern Airways Cessna Caravan, they would have been picking up pieces and body parts. Why? Because even though they have two pilots, they only have one engine.

  • @dahllia1
    @dahllia1 10 дней назад +1

    These E145s are getting old...

  • @kge420
    @kge420 8 дней назад

    Live just a bit north of PHL and knowing the area, would it have been more safe to turn the plane to the left as that right hand turn brings it over densely populated areas?
    Glad they got down safely.

    • @lyaneris
      @lyaneris 7 дней назад

      Engine failures in a jet are pretty safe.
      That said, with those "smaller" jets, not turning into the dead engine could still be a bit nicer handling wise. That and normal GA procedures are likely the reason for the right turn.

    • @lyaneris
      @lyaneris 7 дней назад

      Engine failures in a jet are pretty safe.
      That said, with those "smaller" jets, not turning into the dead engine could still be a bit nicer handling wise. That and normal GA procedures are likely the reason for the right turn.

    • @lyaneris
      @lyaneris 7 дней назад

      Engine failures in a jet are pretty safe.
      That said, with those "smaller" jets, not turning into the dead engine could still be a bit nicer handling wise. That and normal GA procedures are likely the reason for the right turn.

  • @JimmieBrown-sg8fq
    @JimmieBrown-sg8fq 10 дней назад

    The infamous lefthand engine failure suspect LH failure % exceeds RH wonder if any studies. C17 guy here.

    • @K20017
      @K20017 10 дней назад +3

      Put the whiskey down, skip.

    • @JimmieBrown-sg8fq
      @JimmieBrown-sg8fq 10 дней назад

      Show me a study with at least a 2 sigma confidence level then speak with me. I know difference isn't going to be significant I have a masters in Probability and Statistics with a BS in Comp Sci. I also know fatality rates for props with LH engine failures higher than RH. Effect will not be the same for jets. So basically I am saying go grab your jack and coke and shut up unless you have real data.

    • @penguin44ca
      @penguin44ca 10 дней назад

      I honestly don't know what any of you are talking about 😂😂😂 lh Rh. Can you explain? ​@@JimmieBrown-sg8fq

    • @K20017
      @K20017 10 дней назад +3

      @@JimmieBrown-sg8fq You are the one making the claim so you need to back it up with data and evidence. Why would an identical engine being fit on the left side of a transport category aircraft have a higher percentage of failure? Your college degrees mean nothing.

    • @caprica_13
      @caprica_13 9 дней назад

      Why would the left engine have a higher rate of failure than the right? This makes no sense, the engines are identical in most airplanes. Given that it's a jet, there is no critical engine either. Not sure what you're basing this on

  • @ZX-mg5xs
    @ZX-mg5xs 10 дней назад +5

    Emergency landing, engine out and other pilots keep asking about ETA for operational purposes!

  • @haroldk724
    @haroldk724 9 дней назад

    wow...people need to take a CHILL pill......to flipping worried too much for their own good...if they were the EM aircraft..... be a whole different
    thing....circle around and when clear you will be Told..........DUH

    • @caprica_13
      @caprica_13 9 дней назад

      what are you talking about? who is not being chill in this video?

  • @JWPilot1974-uz2mj
    @JWPilot1974-uz2mj 8 дней назад

    Get the stairs? 😂
    Pretty sure they’re built into the door.

    • @chadmuska259
      @chadmuska259 7 дней назад +1

      Nope. Sorrry. Was an option that was not fitted to the lovely ER models Piedmont runs

  • @garycosby8979
    @garycosby8979 9 дней назад +2

    Alert 1 vs Alert 2
    Anyone able to explain?

    • @MM-gw3vx
      @MM-gw3vx 9 дней назад +3

      Alert 1 means that the emergency personnel are standing by. Alert 2 means that the emergency vehicles will stage adjacent to the landing runway. Maybe one at the approach and another at midfield. If an aircraft happens to crash while landing ATC will use a code phrase to summon the emergency vehicles. There also may be a switch in the tower that ATC will activate to sound an alarm within the fire station.

  • @ccgb92
    @ccgb92 10 дней назад +2

    atc was terrible. pilot had to call out an engine fail 3 times? LMAO

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z 10 дней назад

      The audio might have been worse than shown in the video.

  • @mikek5298
    @mikek5298 9 дней назад +3

    Third time’s the charm. Took that many tries for controller to understand “engine failure”. Amazing and very typical.

  • @Shadow7717
    @Shadow7717 10 дней назад

    No more radio chatter after they started taxiing?

  • @dwightmcqueen5771
    @dwightmcqueen5771 10 дней назад

    45 passengers thats a max load

    • @jonathanbott87
      @jonathanbott87 9 дней назад

      Isn't it 50 pax & 2 crew, 52 max souls?

    • @stevecarroll6760
      @stevecarroll6760 8 дней назад

      What about lap infants?

    • @chadmuska259
      @chadmuska259 7 дней назад

      @@jonathanbott87flight attendants are people too!

  • @williammalone8097
    @williammalone8097 6 дней назад

    A foul odor on board? Was Goldberg traveling that day?

  • @Ndub1036
    @Ndub1036 9 дней назад

    So much for keeping the air clear for the emergency aircraft. “They may be busy, chief.” Yeah no s, Sherlock. Relax the incessant chatter

  • @JSFGuy
    @JSFGuy 10 дней назад +2

    Let's see how expensive this is going to sound.

    • @thestrangeman069
      @thestrangeman069 10 дней назад +2

      Why do you care? Are you paying for repairs? 😂

    • @JSFGuy
      @JSFGuy 10 дней назад +1

      @thestrangeman069 I perform the repairs.

    • @thestrangeman069
      @thestrangeman069 10 дней назад +1

      @@JSFGuy That wasn’t the question though. Are you paying out of pocket?

    • @JSFGuy
      @JSFGuy 10 дней назад +1

      @thestrangeman069 did I not indicate that's a big no, I perform the repair What part do you not understand about that?

    • @thestrangeman069
      @thestrangeman069 10 дней назад +1

      @@JSFGuy So again, why do you care? Which question are you confused about?

  • @jaysmith1408
    @jaysmith1408 10 дней назад +1

    An ERJ that doesn’t have stairs? I thought ExpressJet was the only one that did that (for some reason).
    And i keep forgetting Piedmont is still around, a poor shell of what they used to be.

    • @cliffshockley4406
      @cliffshockley4406 10 дней назад +1

      "a poor shell"? A company with 61 aircraft, 400+ departures per day, 50+ destinations, and 10,000 employees? I don't think the original Piedmont ever had more than 2 dozen aircraft at a time? I don't think hardly any ERJ-145s have stairs, and Piedmont has a mix of jet-bridges and air stairs at their destinations, so wouldn't make sense for the extra weight for integrated stairs.

    • @ThatCodeBlue
      @ThatCodeBlue 10 дней назад

      @@jaysmith1408 It’s the name only. This one has absolutely nothing to do with the original Piedmont.

    • @cliffshockley4406
      @cliffshockley4406 9 дней назад

      @@ThatCodeBlue gotcha sorry my cursory Google search wasn't really finding much, I'm in my 40s but I didn't really know much about the original Piedmont. Even though I live near Salisbury Maryland

    • @ThatCodeBlue
      @ThatCodeBlue 9 дней назад

      @@cliffshockley4406 You’re only 180 off. There were 204 mainline PI aircraft in the fleet in 1989.

    • @ThatCodeBlue
      @ThatCodeBlue 9 дней назад

      @ No worries. I’ve met Dick Henson personally. He founded Henson Aviation which became the new Piedmont in 1993. I worked in SBY back in 1995.

  • @methridge
    @methridge 10 дней назад +34

    Ok, for real... do pilots not get trained to use Pan Pan or Mayday anymore? Is it just simply not part of training at all?

    • @benoithudson7235
      @benoithudson7235 10 дней назад +1

      You sound like you think Is pilots used to be trained to use those terms. It’s the other way around: they are just starting to be trained to use them.

    • @rodcoulter997
      @rodcoulter997 10 дней назад +17

      Listen close..the FLIGHT-CREW declared an “Emergency”….it was pretty much understood by ATC. No need to declare MAYDAY-MAYDAY-MAYDAY…that is used to attract “attention” to your situation…everybody was already on the same page.

    • @cageordie
      @cageordie 10 дней назад +7

      It is in the FAA procedures, but they seem to get their training from youtube. There are some examples of US pilots actually saying MAYDAY first. But it's unusual.

    • @slappymcgillicuddy7532
      @slappymcgillicuddy7532 10 дней назад +15

      never used it in 15 years of flying.
      1. "Declaring an emergency"
      2. What is the nature of the emergency
      3. Intentions
      Never needed to utter some magical word to get a controller's attention

    • @PN_48
      @PN_48 10 дней назад +9

      @@slappymcgillicuddy7532Got a real issue eh? The mayday call in it’s entirety isn’t just to “get the controller’s attention” - it’s to give everyone on freq a heads up, give the nature of the emergency, state intentions, souls on board, etc etc. Takes a short time to call and covers everything… hence why the rest of the world use it.

  • @aerialbugsmasher
    @aerialbugsmasher 10 дней назад +2

    VASAviation: no ERJ oultine available for the map, or did you confuse the CRJ with the ERJ? Because that's a CRJ on the animation.

  • @slappymcgillicuddy7532
    @slappymcgillicuddy7532 10 дней назад +8

    wait a minute, the pilot didn't need to utter that magical Mayday word to get the controller's attention and get them back to land safely? Crazy.

    • @ThatCodeBlue
      @ThatCodeBlue 10 дней назад

      They said and did what they needed to.

    • @PN_48
      @PN_48 10 дней назад +9

      A proper Mayday call would’ve eliminated three subsequent calls. There’s a reason the rest of the world uses standardised RTF.

    • @IIIlIIIIlIIIII
      @IIIlIIIIlIIIII 10 дней назад

      The plane also didn't need attention from fire fighters. Guess we should just scrap those too.

    • @MM-gw3vx
      @MM-gw3vx 9 дней назад

      @@PN_48 A Mayday call in and if it self only lets the controller know that the air crew is declaring an emergency. Nothing else. The controller will respond with “what is the nature of your emergency?” Followed by, “say intentions.”
      The air crew will probably respond by informing ATC the nature of the emergency or at least what they think is the problem but they may not be immediately aware of their intentions because they are trying to diagnose the problem or they may be in communication with their company maintenance personnel. Additionally, their company may direct the air crew to divert to the nearest suitable airport or they may want the aircraft to continue to its destination (depending on the severity of the issue) because the company would like the aircraft to land at an airport that houses one of their maintenance facilities.
      A departing aircraft with a full load of fuel may be too heavy to immediately return to the airport to land and may require delay vectors to burn fuel or they may request to dump fuel if the aircraft is able. That requires a conversation between the flight crew and ATC.
      Every controller will ask how much fuel is remaining either in weight or time. Do you know why? There are several reasons. If a non IFR pilot gets stuck on top of an overcast layer he cannot safely descend through the clouds and he cannot accept an IFR clearance because he is not qualified. ATC will check weather at various airports wHERE there may be better weather. A break in the overcast where the pilot can descend between clouds. If the pilot only has a half hour of fuel remaining the controller is not going to suggest an airport that is an hour away. The aircraft will run out of fuel before it gets there.
      When ATC asks for fuel remains in pounds that information relayed to the emergency personnel so they can plan on how big the fire will be if the aircraft crashes.
      Souls on board? That information is for rescue or emergency personnel. For example, a small aircraft that reports four souls on board may crash in the mountains. Rescue personnel locate the wreckage but only find three people. Maybe a survivor is hiking out to find help or has been ejected from the wreckage and is injured but not immediately visible. Emergency personnel have to know how many people are on the aircraft.
      Another scenario. A small airport may only have one or two fire rescue vehicles and limited personnel. The department will likely have a mutual aid agreement with the local fire department in a nearby town. If an emergency airliner full of passengers is coming in to land the airport fire department may not have sufficient resources to deal with the potential catastrophe so they will coordinate with the local fire department to assist them.
      In summary a Mayday call by itself will NOT reduce the number of conversations between the air crew and ATC.

  • @user-jl6zf4zx1c
    @user-jl6zf4zx1c 10 дней назад +1

    Good old “left hand” engine 😅

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z 10 дней назад

      What's wrong with that? It's important for the firefighters to know where the damaged engine is.
      Numbers aren't really as useful, as where the engine is would depend on the aircraft type, they probably don't know every aircraft type.

  • @BLAB-it5un
    @BLAB-it5un 10 дней назад +2

    Odd that there are so many inconsistencies in terminology. Would think alert 1, 2, and 3 would be absolutely universal at every airport as would the terminology for ARFF command. Seems unnecessary to have unique language at every airport.

    • @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co
      @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co 10 дней назад +1

      There are airports where the ARFF call sign is Crash!

  • @ThatCodeBlue
    @ThatCodeBlue 10 дней назад

    Consummate professionalism.

  • @hatpeach1
    @hatpeach1 10 дней назад +1

    "Could you just make sure that it's all in one piece back there, please?" -- still not sure why pilots don't have cameras in the cockpit so they can see the engines.

    • @caprica_13
      @caprica_13 9 дней назад

      Thousands of engineers couldn't think of that idea, but you did. Good job

  • @morganghetti
    @morganghetti 10 дней назад +2

    I cant believe they landed safely without using the word mayday. Thats how they do it in Europe. How is the controller supposed to understand it's an emergency when the pilot only says "we're declaring an emergency"?? That could mean anything!!!!1

    • @pisymbol
      @pisymbol 10 дней назад +4

      “Declaring an emergency” is effectively the same thing as saying “Mayday” from an ATC perspective. They get immediate priority.

    • @ccgb92
      @ccgb92 10 дней назад

      @@pisymbol that's also euphemistic language. mayday is far better, more succinct and direct. what's next? We're initiating a proactive response to an evolving situation?

    • @pisymbol
      @pisymbol 10 дней назад

      @@ccgb92 No, no, no: “Declaring an emergency” or even saying :”We are declaring” is official phraseology and it means the same thing as “Mayday”. “Mayday!” might mean the emergency requires more immediate attention by the pilot (loss of control) but in this case the phraseology was spot on. Also in Europe, they might use “Pan pan pan” as an alternative to “Mayday”

    • @tomasmarcataio2066
      @tomasmarcataio2066 10 дней назад

      @@pisymbol (in the US)

    • @ccgb92
      @ccgb92 10 дней назад

      @@pisymbol you missed the point. but that's okay

  • @soopaman2
    @soopaman2 10 дней назад +2

    I may still be on approach, but my balls have already reached the gate. This pilot.

    • @bocefusmurica4340
      @bocefusmurica4340 10 дней назад

      I believe the “pilot” identifies as a woman.
      Sooo, change to yuge brass ovaries?😂😅😊

  • @Halli50
    @Halli50 10 дней назад +1

    I fail to see the "emergency" side of this. During my airline pilot career, this was the mandatory part of the flight simulator recurrent training we did every 6 months: Catastrophic engine failure at the worst possible moment (usually immediately following the "V1" call-out at takeoff). Then we had to stagger, heavily loaded, into an emergency approach - only to have to do a single-engine go-around due to freak weather, and another approach where we were finally allowed to land.
    A actual engine failure may be unexpected, but almost invariably an anticlimax compared to what we experienced during our training.

    • @JimmieBrown-sg8fq
      @JimmieBrown-sg8fq 10 дней назад

      Same Military C17 guy.

    • @oldRighty1
      @oldRighty1 10 дней назад +5

      What would you call this if not an emergency? They weren't about to crash, but now you're on 1 engine and if there's say a problem with the fuel you want to be down on the ground ASAP. So they declare an emergency, they get a priority path to land, and all is well.

    • @mouseish
      @mouseish 10 дней назад +4

      Any time a twin engine commercial aircraft loses one of its engines, it will always become an emergency because there is only a single operative engine remaining.

    • @jetalse7974
      @jetalse7974 9 дней назад +2

      Yes, everything went OK, the situation was handled well by aircrew and ATC. That's what the training you mentioned is for. With one engine gone, it takes very little to change from what was a major problem to becoming headline news. It WAS an emergency.

    • @Halli50
      @Halli50 9 дней назад

      Of course they were REQUIRED to declare an emergency, but unless the departure weather was bad enough to call for a takeoff alternate, or you are at your ETOPS limit over the ocean, handling an engine failure should be almost a routine...

  • @rhogaal
    @rhogaal 10 дней назад +4

    There was no mayday callout.

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez 10 дней назад +12

      And? Broke Internet comment section protocol? OH....the shame...

    • @rhogaal
      @rhogaal 10 дней назад +5

      ​@@buckhorncortez The screen in 00:26 says "pilots declared MAYDAY", this is not true.

    • @cageordie
      @cageordie 10 дней назад +8

      Americans don't really bother using proper radio procedure. I guess they think it's more important to be cool than clear. Sometimes it means they don't get priority handling, but at least they are cool.

    • @ThatCodeBlue
      @ThatCodeBlue 10 дней назад

      @@cageordieKeep wanking, mate.

    • @PN_48
      @PN_48 10 дней назад +2

      @@cageordieYep.

  • @obamabigears734
    @obamabigears734 10 дней назад +2

    Nasty odor and none of the pilots are on oxygen, well done pilo….., sorry, button pushers….

  • @Bohemian-Rhapsody
    @Bohemian-Rhapsody 9 дней назад

    Another "declaring an emergency" from poorly trained U.S pilots.🙄

    • @caprica_13
      @caprica_13 9 дней назад +1

      why are you guys so sour that our phraseology is different? we say declaring an emergency here in the US, and everybody knows what that means. we know to use ICAO phraseology when we're outside of the US. it's not poor training, just operational differences. Why bother sounding like robots when it's native english speakers on both ends of the microphone?

    • @Bohemian-Rhapsody
      @Bohemian-Rhapsody 8 дней назад

      @caprica_13 Not surprised to see a xenophobic themed reply.
      Maybe if Mayday was coined by an American, it would be common place.
      But that's not the point, there's a reason distress signals are brief and clear and repeated 3 times. It's to not only let atc know but everyone around them.
      There's plenty of International pilots in the US at any given time so you're not just doing it wrong in their eyes but you are confusing their training by being the only ones to use a sentence instead of a callsign for distress.
      The arrogance is astounding. 😎
      But none of this means anything, really.
      Until one day, it does, and it becomes a piece of cheese that didn't need to be there in the first place.🤠

    • @caprica_13
      @caprica_13 8 дней назад +2

      @@Bohemian-Rhapsody Wow you call us "poorly trained pilots" just because we do things differently and I'm the one that's xenophobic?
      All we're doing is skipping a step and starting with the nature of the emergency when making the radio call - the message is just as clear. We do use mayday if it's a busy freq and we can't get a word in, or if we're flying internationally.
      This has nothing to do with who coined the term or training. We go by the US convention while in our own country. We also adapt when flying internationally, and so should you when you're flying in someone else's country.
      Your arrogance is the one that's truly astounding, thinking the only correct way to do things is what you've been taught.

  • @bridamy
    @bridamy 10 дней назад

    Definitely not the best showing from the pilot and flight crew on that one.

    • @morganghetti
      @morganghetti 10 дней назад +6

      Explain that comment. I'm a controller and I think it was handled perfectly by everyone involved. The pilots were urgent but calm and got every person in that plane safely back in the ground. They even had the situational awareness to ask for a runway sweep to ensure no other planes were endangered. Are you a pilot? Do you have any idea what was going on in that cockpit?

    • @ccgb92
      @ccgb92 10 дней назад +1

      more like the ATC. lmao atc didn't even get the engine fail for 3 times..

    • @bridamy
      @bridamy 10 дней назад

      maybe it was their first real engine out, but they were slow to confirm request and flat out ignored the ground crew. Engine failure is the #1 emergency US based pilots train for. So much so it's basically a non issue. So either these pilots are very new or this is their first engine failure, but the communication could have been a little better is all im getting at. ATC and Pilots both.

    • @ccgb92
      @ccgb92 10 дней назад

      @@bridamy the pilots shouldn't have to repeat an engine failure 3 times for ATC to understand.

    • @caprica_13
      @caprica_13 9 дней назад

      Sounded just fine to me. Are you a pilot? What exactly are your qualifications to judge this?

  • @ForestFelvey
    @ForestFelvey 10 дней назад

    Pilots should speak clearly no matter the circumstance. During an emergency, more so. Her speech and syntax are ridiculously poor and does nothing but confuse people and endanger everyone. She should be reprimanded.

    • @saxmanb777
      @saxmanb777 10 дней назад +7

      She won’t be reprimanded for speaking badly on the radio in an emergency. GMFB.

    • @morganghetti
      @morganghetti 10 дней назад

      You are an idiot. She did a great job.

    • @wouldntyouliketoknow9891
      @wouldntyouliketoknow9891 10 дней назад

      ​@@saxmanb777completely agree, but just an FYI "GMFB" doesn't mean what it used to mean. It means something else now. Damn kids always changing stuff

    • @caprica_13
      @caprica_13 9 дней назад

      There was nothing wrong with how she spoke, get over yourself. Who are you to judge this anyway?

    • @ForestFelvey
      @ForestFelvey 8 дней назад

      @@caprica_13 Repeatedly, from the beginning of the first call and after that, the tower controller could not understand what she said. People commenting need to listen to the audio.