Are the NEW POWELL DRAGON WHEELS GOOD or just HYPE????
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Changed my life as an NYC skater. Bought em last week. I'll never ride anything else ever again.
Changed the game!
You got some rough ground in New York
@@robolinoschmidt8676 fr fr
Gamechanger for Austria too. Rough asphalt and rivers of pebbles... no problem anymore
@@shalabazertheboltstruck8645Canadian skater here ! There is nothing better ! Maybe plain janes 😅 if I wanted cheaper but similar feeling
might be weird but im in a wheel review crave right now so i just got done re-watching the old spitfire vs. bones video you made. thanks for reading my mind lmao.
I dont think I've ever seen a wheel as hyped as these in the nearly 20 years I've been skating (on & off lol).
Neither have I
Yeah it's amazing. I was at my local park and got talking to somebody about them and he said 'that fella over there has just been telling me exactly the same thing- soft and slide'.
@@bendegros I remember when formula 4’s came out in 2012-13 they were pretty well marketed and hyped.
@@ericarevalo5005 i went in not really knowing what hype form 4s had, and i remember going to shop for the first time in a long time in 2017 and buying some full conicals and being surprised at how well they rolled and how much better than classics they were. my favorite set of wheels i ever had were Rat Bones II 60mm 97a powell peralta reissue wheels and i still wish they made more. so im interested
We had the Ricta Clouds 92A that has been marketed as a hybrid wheel too. It had a decent amount of hype behind it too. Spitfire Formula Fours deserve all the hype by the way. Probably the best wheels out there. And available from like 95/97A to 104A or something and which one to get exactly boils down to preference too. I really like the 97A ones. But definitely skate rough streets.
They’re pretty rad. It’s nice to be able to skate to a spot and then skate the ledge at that spot with the same set up.
Nice neck smiling mugshot
As well as skate to/from that spot
Are these Dragon wheels the same as the Bones experimental wheels you tested on your channel recently?
Wow a Powell sponsored rider likes them
Npc
I got a pair of 95 nomads that work pretty well on rough stuff , you have definitely sparked my interest in the Dragon’s. Thanks and hope your Achilles gets better soon
I have nomads as well and love them, super smooth for my old ass.
Personally I find the Nomads to be much better wheels; they are faster and feel similar in smoothness.
@@jonathandantonio649 I actually agree. In fact, my Mini Logo 95A wheels are better already too, unless you're truly picky about the wheel shape. A 93A definitely won't slide as well.
@@PHeMoXsame i love my mini logo 95a A cuts
THE review we've all been waiting for and the ONLY review you need to watch about these wheels. Thanks for being so comprehensive.
oh yeah! I’m reading and looking at dragon wheel videos and just minutes later a new Ben video drops talking about it… good universe alignment 😎
Quick update after I finally rode them: fucking yes, they are insane!
at first I was a bit disappointed they are not quite as quiet on the street, as my actual cruiser wheels.
but it still is a very big difference between them and any hard wheel around 99A and harder.
secondly the vibrations are very minimal, these dragons are smooooooth!
and most importantly: the slide. oh my god the slide ... its crazy!
they slide so easily and especially on rough ground, I actually slipped out 2 times, cause I wasnt ready for it!
so definetely, as Ben said, get used to them before you shred.
holy moly, finally I can cruise around town, slide whenever I want to and skate rough spots.
for cruisng long distances I will still go back to my cruiser setup, but these are the actual perfect hybrids!
where the nomads disappointed me to no end, these actually keep their promise!
so in short, the 60€ I spent on them I do not regret at all.
finally able to skate that crusty af parking lot, with wheels that actually slide, and my feet do not hurt at all.
How did the nomads disappointed you ? I’m on them right now but I have ordered some dragons ! can’t wait to see the difference
Hey, the nomads in my experience were too hard for rough streets, the didnt absorb the vibrations very nice, the dragons do that much better.
Secondly the nomads slide much slower in general, on any ground.
Sure when you are adapt at sliding, might be easy, but noseslides and the Likes require alot of wax.
The dragons slide so good that even a newbie like me can easily Push them through anything and the rougher the ground, the better they Slide, its madness!
Love em, wouldnt Go Back. But in Skatepark I will Go with my F4s cause I'd miss the sound and the dragons are better for rough spots anyway.
So many places I can finally skate!! Holy Shit!
PS: I have the 54mm V4 shape, since I wanted to emphasize the smoother ride.
The V1 might be a little worse for rough ground
@@diddymelone2265 I’ve ordered the same shape, same size. I loved the nomads, I just want to see if the dragons can push the concept a little farther. The nomads slide when you want them to but grip most of the time. I’m used to it now but I want to have some more fun with powerslides !
Im a little bit afraid about the form factor of the dragon wheel itself ! The nomads were perfect for me. Tablet shape seems to be perfect for lock-ins and stability while being thin and very light. V4 dragons are larger but with a narrower riding surface I believe
@@zzzfabio in my experience the nomads grip too much when you try to powerslide, the 97a spitfires are my current choice and when ben did a longer slide with the dragons than the 97as my jaw dropped a bit lol
Thanks for getting on the dragons! So glad you threw in the comparison to 97a spitfires. Did you do any other vids talking about those? FYI they can be had in a classic shape too, only other shape besides conical full currently. The madness is real! If nothing else we have some awesome options for different spots. Stoked to experience the differences myself. Hype levels at maximum!
I didnt really get what he compared them to, was it Bones STF 101s and Spitfire F4 97s ?
@@BusenBingoBalthasar The dragon formula wheels he reviewed come in some of the same shapes as the Bones STF, but they are softer at 93a, with the innovation that they can still slide well even though they’re a bit softer. They’re actually not even sold under the Bones logo but under Powell directly. Rumor has it that Bones will be getting a slightly harder 95a version of this new urethane that will be called Bones X.
@@srcery Good info, thank you!
Observe the master at work!! I know you said you were done with reviews, but thanks for coming out of retirement. This was one of the most helpful reviews you’ve ever done. All of the old buddies thank you for your service.
great review! feel like ive learned a lot about them from this vid that a lot of the other vids don't show. I live in SF and bomb hills and have wanted a wheel like this for a long time (slideable, handle the crust, and if the slide is as they say should be confidence inspiring and let me slide from even faster speeds then i am comfortable with even with f4s). From some videos from Powell's downhill riders on instagram it seems like they slide easy for days, but we shall see...(hard to accurately guage because those guys can easily slide a 78a, I cannot hahaha). Curious how they will wear tho; for reference I usually run through a 58-60mm formula four down to 50mm in 1.5-2 months from slides. Ordered the 56mm and they should come today. Super hyped!
Update: these wheels are cracked they slide like a 99 F4 on steroids. Was gassing it and literally hit a 12 foot slide to a stop
Gnar!
Wear a helmet. Watch out for monkey pops out there in San Fran
what where the specs on the wheels you bought. 92a? was gonna get spitfires f4 for sliding
@@williambo5989 56 conicals. they slid great but after about 3-4 days they were less than 50mm lol
@@cythompson8231 after a 12 foot slide time for another set LOL
Mini logo 90a A cuts are a good cheap wheel that slides decently and are good on the wallet. I've been skating them almost a year now and still going strong. Same for the bearings. Mini logo has been around for a long time and if I remember right is a sister company of powell.
I really wish someone would compare them, I skate mini-logo/Powell 90a as well and the power slide well on rough ground and are way more bouncy then anything else I’ve skated which feels great.
Most other wheels feel like plastic after.
Although some harder wheels feel better on some surfaces.
I am on the OJ nomads (95a) for a year and a half now and these have been a game changer already for me as I skate mainly rough street spots. I have bought some spare nomads but then those wheels came out. I’ve ordered a set and I hope to have the same feeling on the streets, just a tiny bit slickier. OJ Nomads can really powerslide and grip when you want them too. I just want to see if I can have a little more fun with the slide-ability of the wheels when power sliding or grinding/sliding stuff.
OJ Nomads are perfect for me "form wise" as they are square but thin and insanely light ! We'll see !
I have both and I like dragons better than OG Nomad
Yep I love them to I have 2 pairs for 2 set ups
Ok first session with the dragons and I’m sold ! They take some gettin used to because of the rebound mentioned in the video. They somehow react like a filmer wheel but after you get used to it, it’s only pleasure and fun.
They do slide a lot better than oj nomads and can slide better than the f4 99a too.
It truly is bizarre but I guarantee you can’t be disappointed with these wheels !
That is a true solution rough street skaters and they go farther and greater than the OJ Nomads.
Can’t wait to see more sizes and shapes but I’m definitely sold on the formula
Thanks for the review.
I'm F4 team. My only concern is how they wear down and if they flatspot. Being "supposedly" soft wheels, how they do perform over time is a must know. Besides that they seem to fulfill their purpose, soft enough to ride rough places and hard enough to slide.
Mine get delivered tomorrow , I’ll update after a couple of seshs
get F4 97d.. they are the same wheel
@@WhatisAPaladin Can't find f4 97 duro where I live, anyway that's not a "soft" ride as 93/95 are.
@@azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158 97A and 95A will feel pretty much the same. Just like 93A and 95A. It's going to be tough to distinguish the two in a blind test.
@@PHeMoX 97 and 95, same brand, colour and duro do not feel the same and 95 wear down quite faster. It well may be that skating mostly rough street surfaces makes the differences more noticeable.
Good sliding soft wheels have been existing for a long time, this is just a new addition to them. The slide-ability is more in the formula, not the hardness (for example, I found the Bones SPFs to be really sticky and they are 84B). However, this review is awesome and rational as always and everything you've said is true for all slide-able soft wheels out there (where and how can you benefit the most from using them, etc). Thanks for the quality content Ben!
Hundred percent. I haven't looked into it but I have a hunch that they took a thing or two from Powell peralta's soft slide formula range of wheels which are downhill oriented, but slide very slick for their durometer (75a!)
these are unique due to a relatively new (
Great stuff. I love how you cant resist reviewing things lol. Ben, whether you like it or not, you ARE the ultimate human skateboard-gear-reviewing machine, the chosen one !!! 🙏💪
Got them as the first wheels back after 15 year hiatus. After about a month of the nice bouncing ride, I switched to Spits 99a because I missed the sounds of 'real' street wheels and flatground was too smooshy feeling on the dragons.
The first snap off Spits immediately felt like coming home and I love the high pitched power slide scream!
I'm spoiled with smooth AF terrain where I skate though.
Ben, thank you for another great video. Also nice tennis court set-up!
Similar situation here but with the 92a Ricta Clouds - which from what I understand are pretty close to the Dragons. I loved how smooth they felt when just cruising around, but I just couldn't get over the pathetically sad sound they made when power-sliding, and the weird bouncy feeling when doing tricks.
Replaced them with some 99d f4 conical fulls and they feel SO much better. Sure they're a little rougher when cruising around and don't keep their speed on rough streets quite as well, but imo it's well worth sacrificing that for how much better they sound and how much snappier tricks feel on them. To me that's just what a skateboard is supposed to feel like.
I keep getting tempted to try the Dragons or soft sliders, but I just have a feeling I won't like them either.
Thanks for the review Ben, I am an older skater always looking for an advantage in my gear to compensate for age, everything is fairly crusty near me and I wanted a compromise wheel that could run the crust but didn't need changing for the smooth indoor skate parks. Ended up with the OJ Nomads and they are ok, don't run too smooth over rough ground but defo better and I find them fine but not great for smooth park riding. These wheels seem like a better compromise for my needs. Always enjoy your content brother.
I just tested mine. I have two pair, the classic shape dragons and I have the conical shape dragons. First I will describe the classic shape dragons 54mm. What I previously have been riding are the spitfire 97A classic shape 54mm for my comparison. I skated three different surfaces from smooth to rough, then actually crusty. I did power slides, reverts, and very fast pushing to see how they hold my speed for street skating. On a scale from 1 to 10, the spitfire 97A felt about a 1-2 point difference from the Dragons in 4 different ways. It felt a 2 point out of 10 difference in speed. the Spitfire 97A classic shape was faster than the classic shape dragon. It felt one point difference in vibrations, the dragons translating less vibrations, but just by one point. The slide ability of the dragons in classic shape was about 2 points less slick than the spitfire 97A classic shape. And lastly the sound was about 1 point louder for the spitfires vs the quieter dragons. Now I will describe the conical shaped dragons in 56mm. The 56mm dragons were about 2 points different in speed from the spitfire classics 97A. The spitfires were faster = less need for pushing. Slide Ability felt 1 point less slippery compared to the spitfires. Vibrations were about 2 points softer on the dragons vs the spitfires. And lastly, the sound was even less at 2 points quieter for the dragons vs the louder spitfires while riding, HOWEVER they were louder when sliding about 3 points vs the spitfires. Over all, this was on a scale from 1 - 10 and so these differences were small. The best thing I could do from here is to get the spitfire 97A in conical shape to see who the true all terrain winner is. Since the spitfire 97A classic did so well against both the dragons (only a 1-2 point difference in softness feel), I am going to assume the spitfire 97A conical will make up for the vibrations difference and retain the speed.
I have the 58mm conical full in 97a. Was thinking of trying the 58mm dragons but they are like 3-4mm narrower. Not sure if they would be better or just similar??
They don't just slide better than soft wheels normally do, and they don't just slide better on rough ground than they do on smooth ground- they cess slide better on that rough ground better than any wheel I've ever ridden, including the hardest wheel on the smoothest ground.
Press X to doubt
I bought them for my indoor bowl. Fairly new to bowl skating. My bowl is indoor and surfaced with gator skins. When the ramp gets dusty my Spitfires would slide out a lot sometimes unexpectedly. The dragons give me a very very confident ride which consequently makes them faster. Because they feel so good and I’m way more confident on them. Perfect pair for my 19 Indy’s on a 8.5. I’m carving waaaaaay better. Not a single tick tac turn.
All wheels down and fat carves in n out of the pockets. I like the way they bonk off coping also.
I am late to the party but I'm glad you did a review cause as a 43 year old skater I can relate to a lot of your points and my body can't take the abuse of long ago. I am from Massachusetts and a lot of places outside of parks is really gnarly and the constant vibrations is killer on my knees. I believe like you said will solve my problems hitting street spots. Ride on my dude.
Finally got some Dragon Wheels. I love that I can now skate along the rough streets to the concrete skatepark before skating the park. I'm only a bit disappointed that they started getting splits in them on day one.
Yay Thanks Ben ! I think everyone was waiting for this after we saw the nine club vid 🤘🏻❤️. Much Love from South Africa 🇿🇦❤️🤘🏻🛹
thank you for sharing your perspective on these, Ben! i am sending you those healing vibes for your knee and achilles. I was thinking these would be nice for my local curb spot but even the asphalt there is pretty damn smooth already so i think ill stick to my 99a spitfires for now. Like you mentioned i think they would only benefit me on the really crusty parts where i ride over on the way to or from the spot but its a pretty smooth ride all the way there. have a blessed day ben peace love and infinite blessings to you bro.
Love the review. Let's stay on the Powell train and see a Mini-logo truck review next!
I started on Power Paws and Road Rider 4's, so things have changed a lot in the last 48 years. The best wheels I've ever ridden on vert were (97A) Kanoa Rollouts, (88A) Street Cubes on the, well, street and your average skatepark. I'm on (90A) RatBones now, but these intrigue me. I'm in my 60's, but still have some skating in me.
Thanks for the "deep dive" review
To anyone watching this, I’ve been skating for 25 years, and I’ve NEVER had a better set of wheels. If you’re on a slight incline, you’ll gain hella speed without pushing. They’re fucking crazy lol
Im on my 3rd set in the uk, everything is weathered and rough here, one thing i can say is skate them on rough ground first, makes going onto indoor parks feel normal
Yes!! Just put these on my board today and lo and behold a Ben video on them. Fucking rad
Edit: alright so just finished your video. As always man your review was on point. I skated with them today at my local park and the asphalt in the parking lot is fucking awful but the park is super smooth. From the parking lot to the park itself, absolute game changer and I can tell why anyone skating street with shitty asphalt is preaching about these. At the park, they were about 90% as slippery as my 99a formula 4s. I actually slid a little better on my noseslides I felt like then I do with my spitfires, but I could have just been having a good day. For grinds in general they felt fine. They did feel a little slower than my 99a’s, and they’re eerily silent which takes some getting used to. But they powerslide and revert great. All around a really great wheel and I’m going to take some time to get used to them and compare them more with my 99a spitfires before I settle on which I prefer.
Thanks for the review man, love your channel!
Thanks for your review :)
I like getting other detailed opinions here...especially when they confirm mine😂
@@bendegros haha man you’re always on point with it. After I watched your video on the Anti-Hero 8.28 deck I got a Real 8.28 with the same dimensions. Fits my skating way better than the girls I used to ride. So I definitely have major respect for your opinion on stuff man.
love that the original ledge u made at the park is still going strong!
Honestly…..I LOVE them!!!! Took a bit to get used to them. They feel smoooooth but almost too smooth and quiet. When they slide they feel like an “eraser “. The wheels you have actually sound harder than then ones I have. I wanna try some of the Nano Cubix Anderson wheel.
Seen these wheels at shop 2 or 3 times but didn't know anything about them. Found out they do what I'm looking for now I can't find them anywhere
In the early 2000’s Powell made 92a Bowl Bombers that were my favorite wheel. Based on this review it’s the same wheel so I’ll be ordering some asap!
i used these for a month and they made such a difference in lessening foot pains from vibration and i like how quiet they are. they really grab a lot on metal which can be annoying but i gladly accept it for the ability to blast around and feel like a monster truck.
Same here, they stick on metal (coping and angled metal). I need more wax to keep my tricks. I wonder if they're gonna slide better with time and how they're gonna ride in bowls. I want another set of wheels for bowls anyway.
I rode Spitfire Classics for year : F1 Streetburners 53mm, F4 94a 54mm, 56mm (a bit too much for flips)…
@@jaimeronan i used to exclusively ride the streetburners. i loved them because they were hard but the urethane was still tacky enough to feel pretty smooth on a lot of surfaces. as far as i know they are out of production unless you know of a secret source.
@@FirelordRob76 Streetburners were great for street and slides. I didn't like Streetburners in bowls where they slide a bit too much. Streetburners were 100a, so between F4 99 and F4 101. Did you try those both? Streetburners are 10 years old.
@@jaimeronan i have never ridden the f4s. i was so sad that they quit doing streetburners that i stopped skating spitfire and tried other stuff like the hazard wheels by dwindle and now the dragon wheels by powell.
@@FirelordRob76 Try F4 if you're riding surfaces not too rough. F4 99 are very similar to F1 Streetburners with more control, more grip and better abrasion resistance. People seem to prefer wider riding surface with F4 101.
I’m super stoked to get these in, I skate a bunch of ditches in my area but man the vibration kills my knee and back. I’m hoping these make the ditches more enjoyable
I think you'll like them. I mainly skate medium rough asphalt and they work good on that, and slide good. I was skating AWOLs before that because I can't stand hard wheels on rough pavement. Those barely slide at all though. I got the V6 Wide Cuts 56mm. I think the wider contact patch is better on rough ground.
If you like the dragons, you should try the nano cubics. I have both and dig the nanos more.
I’ve been a formula four guy since they came out. Was a spit classics guy for a decade before that. I just know how to control them in slides, reverts, & grip. Plus I love speed.
Now that I’m a little older, I’m tempted to try these for a little more grip and smoothness. With my large size, 6’3 220lbs, I don’t know if the speed deficit would be an issue for me. I can pretty much force speed.
Tempted to try.
I would always recommend a smooth asphalt hill bomb session to help break in a new set of wheels.
I saw that Roger from 9Club just posted a video saying they’re the best wheel ever and he went from being able to skate a few hours for a normal to 8.5 hours. I only remember ever having one soft wheel as a kid. I remember loving it in the park but not on street so much. I had a hard wheel slide out on me carving a bowl today and it caused me a hipper. I can’t afford hippers at 40 years old.
I find wheels slide better on rough ground, as there's less contact. My question is: Are the Dragons flat spot proof like Spitfire Formula Fours? I love quiet stealthy powerslides 😀
they’re about the same they can handle a lot of abuse before they flat spot
Yup pretty damn close
these weels changed my life
Picked these up today. Local skateshop recommended these. Got them for $40. A lot of rough roads around me. Ended up with the 56mm because of that.
so how long did it last? if i buy 58 mm, does it keep with me for a year before it wears down to 53 mm?
Usually I ride 94mm 92a clouds on bad spots to keep my speed up, but I don't like the feel all that much. Can't wait to give these a try and see if I like them any better.
The Clouds are faster, smoother, and slide almost as well.
94mm? Thats downhill offroad longboarding terrain ;^)
Always the voice of reason, great review Ben. I wasn’t going to rush out and buy these but I know plenty of people that might. As I only skate smooth concrete parks, these would be pointless. I will stick to my tried and tested Speed Lab’s (as good as Formula Fours in my opinion). Maybe one day you could do a review on them, I think their 97a’s and 99a’s are excellent wheels.
Powell went crazy with the marketing the way everyone was shilling these wheels. Either that or I wonder if people don't experiment with their wheel durometer and this was their first time trying something slightly softer... I tried Spitfire F4 97a during my phase of gear madness not long ago and I thought they were a game changer - until I skated them more and grew to hate the way they sounded. I'll pass on these, thanks for the sound test + extensive review lol.
Bro the 97a F4s are absolutely insane, changed the game for me
@water Yeah I can see that for sure if you skate smaller wheels, F4 99a 58-60mm handle rough pavement and cracks really well. Some people lose a lot of their pop from being higher up off the ground + weight difference though. Different strokes for different folks I guess!
@@thomkim6700 One thing I didn't realize at first is that I actually think contact patch width makes a bigger difference than wheel height, speed wise. Durometer matters too though. I compared 85A 63mm Mini Logo AWOLs to 97A Powell 64mm G Bones and the AWOLs are way faster. I think the wheel softness makes it so that the bearings can move better because there is less vibration. Both of those wheels are about 35mm wide for the contact patch.
@@thomkim6700 I added a skid plate on the board I have that has 64mm wheels. It makes it so the snap is back to being more similar to small wheels.
I love the f4 conical full 97a for the shitty street spots in Florida. The marketing and pumping of these dragon wheels is insane though
I got these myself a few setups ago (roughly 3 months) I watched a few clips back and absolutely hated what I saw.
well not what I saw but heard.
well what I didn't hear. And I HATED the silence of the these things watching clips back.
Thanks for the review Dad
I'm sure these wheels are epic and I'm yet to try a set but I can't help but think about all of the "soft" wheels that longboarders use that slide probably just as well as these might.
I get that these wheels are a lower duro compared to a regular skateboard wheel, roll fast, smooth and then slide without chattering which is honestly groundbreaking on a shortboard. However when it comes to longboarding, which relies heavily on your wheels for speed, grip or the lack thereof, then I feel this wheel is nothing new other than skateboarders are only now catching onto something longboarders have known and used for the better half of this decade.
Cult Wheels, Abec 11 and companies like them have been working on this sort of thing for freeriding longboarders for ages. A low duro wheel with low rebound that "chalks" or slides well, giving you speed, acceleration, grip and a controlled slide... Fight me
Actually, these use the same soft slide formulas as Powell Snakes, which are a slidey soft wheel for downhill. Powell has been innovating downhill polyurethanes for a long time and Snakes are considered the god-head slide wheel.
The only review on the planet I call. LEGIT.
Just grabbed a set of the 56mm’s! So excited to try them out!
Thanks for providing a legitimate review. I just tried them today (V5 93a 56mm) and was not happy with the slide. Great comparison with the 97a F4. I would be interested to see you compare the OJ Elite Nomad 95a wheels
Nomads are waaaaay stickier. Never had a set but have tried other peoples boards.
@@bendegros I just got to try the Nomads today and you are 100% right. Crazy sticky compared to the Dragon wheels.
i mostly skate a crusty old diy park so i think im gonna try a set, thanks for an honest review as always Ben
While I agree with you on the sidewall chirpiness, I haven't found a smooth or rough surface that isn't made smoother and faster with this wheel. In fact rolling from rough to smooth on these wheels feels very much like actual acceleration. MMV.
Being old and sore is so frustrating I’m 49and damn I want to do more in my sessions. I’m at a poly where I need all the old man hacks I can get. Pdx spots are soo crusty!! These wheels seem worth a try.
Definitely try out the Andy Anderson wheels. They are my new go too
Nano cubic
I love these wheels. They conquer rough ground and feel smooth on crusty surfaces
can you say about the durability in long term? what about the wearing down?
Hope your Achilles feels better soon dude 🙏 appreciate the review, I been looking at these.
Hell yeah! The one person I wanted to hear talk about these wheels.
hey Ben 🙂
are you going to review the spitfire 93a ?
we’d like to hear how YOU feel like they compare to the dragons ?
Loved my dragons but the wheel bite is bad bad. But if you're older like me and have knee, ankle, and lower back pain they do help a lot in the streets. I was able to street skate longer with them as well.
Nice skating , hope your injury gets better soon . Different location is good every now and then , i enjoyed it .
How do they feel on revert-y flatground tricks? bigspins, cab 3s, that sort of thing.
I alternate between 50mm F4 99a classics and Bones STF V3 99A depending on what I can grab, and skate some pretty crappy flatground spots...but due to my inadequacies on fully rotating certain tricks, I'm all about the revert-ability when looking for a good wheel.
The F4s are great for this, but I've grown to quite like the bark of the STF V3s, especially on concrete.
So glad you made the review,
Thanks Ben.
Excellent fair review. I wanted to see somebody other than Roger and Andy talk about them
East coast skater (middle GA - Crust County). Normally ride Bones STF 103A, and they slide much better. But not much different on smooth surfaces than these. I have a set of Dragons in 58mm that create comfort for street skating (I don’t skate huge rails yet).
Right now just debating if I should clean my China Bones and put them in the Dragons or leave my Swiss Bones in the Dragons. Life is full of tough decisions.
These seem like a cool wheel to get, since where I live is barely a city the ground is mad crusty
Was curious, questions answered. Appreciate it Ben hope the Achilles is doing well.
Mine are on the way!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥
I'm pretty sure the reason they grip a little bit better than a normal spitfire classic wheel is because the inside of the wheel is actually more of a conical shape. Which is why I'm not getting these wheels. I usually flip my wheels and I don't want the rounded part on the inside cuz I like conical shape for basically anything. Also spitfire makes a wheel with that shape. They're called the lock-ins which have a classic outside but a conical inside which makes the wheel lock in better. But those wheels definitely sound like they grab more since of the softer durometer.
Thank you for doing a review of the wheels I'm trying to decide between at my home skatepark! Damn, does this make it easy for me!! 👍😜
as a recovering downhill longboarder who still can't skate good I feel like those are made for me specifically lol. I also feel like it's gonna make it way more pleasant to skate *to* the park
This vid about to go viral, relatively for skate videos of course.
Aside from the wheels another thing I will be buying are them dunks, look sick!!!
Hey Ben! Is the tennis court on your property? Having a slappy curb, marble bench and chill miniramp in my own backyard is the dream! I'd never want to leave my home again.
crazy detailed. thank you
I’m not gonna try these but you did influence me to buy the Tiago pants! 😂
This is the type of review I like and I want this type of review for the clothes you review.
So far all the shorts I tried ground and slid really well!
Was waiting for this one!
The review we've all been waiting for. Love it Ben, thanks.
Would you recommend them for skateboarders who live in new york where roads are rougher cause I’ll happily sacrifice a bit of slide for higher speeds and comfort
Grind length on metal is what you really lose.
i dont get how people like tyshawn jones hit nyc street spots with 101a spitfires lol
I mainly skate my mini ramp in my backyard but have been looking for a wheel that is both great on that and slides ledges well. I liked the F4 97a classics but I think ill try these next. Currently on the OG classic 99as and there great on the ramp but i dont like the way they crook a ledge.
But are they dad or bro?
7:25 ben hit the griddddyyy
Ben, yours word to me is pure gold man. What you say determines what i buy. Freakin crazy. You might be the very last Jedi.
I plan on getting these for a 7.75 zig cruiser.
For us who live in the North of Europe with ruff asphalt this is a Godsent wheel!
I just ordered a set 30 minutes before u dropped this video.. all I've been hearing is how fast they are....
😂 They are smooth not fast.
Fast compared to small hard wheels on proper rough ground like sidewalks, pavers, weathered asphalt, pebblecrete etc, surfaces that stop hard classic shaped wheels in their tracks
Oj 97a is where it’s at
great honest review..on the lookout for these wheels.
Many thanks. Passed this on to my homies.
Luv this vid. Wanted it to keep going. Great work here
12:31 _that girl is poisooon_
Solid Bell Biv DeVoe cover with the Powell wheels
Do you think waxing the inner wall of the wheel will help? I do it on my F4s when I'm trying long 5-0s
I have those wheels I haven’t skated them yet but my local park has a big hump in the middle of it to pump and if you pump to hard you go flying so it will be the perfect speed to do tricks
Would love to see ricta clouds review, or some softer 80a...good content!
was waiting for Ben to review these, nice!
Longest power slide test!
Green Dragons Vs Spitfire F4 Vs Bones 103a Vs OJ elite 101a
Already have everything except Green Dragons. I didnt do longest powerslide test but from experience 1. F4 101a going farther then any other wheels then 2.Bones STF 103a 3. Spitfire f4 99a
I got the oj nomads 95a a while ago and they are really similar but seam to stick on slides a bit so I think I'm getting these dragon wheels. And roger braag loves them too.
Hey Ben, have you heard about the newest generation (gen 7) of DKL grip tape? The round rubber nubs in their newest iteration has gotten quite a few people switching from the classic sandpaper grip.
Nobody rides rubber grip lol
In time for the real review🙌🏼 thank you Ben👊🏼
great review can't wait to skate my set