If you watched the live streams of the Tchaikovsky / Shostakovich Trio, or the Liszt Concerto, or the bits of this recital, just by her manner coming off and on stage, something wasn't right. This Albeniz is great, and she is a consummate professional, but at least to me something was different.
@@capblood3046 If I told it like it is, they'd go on the attack and we all get bogged down for no good purpose. No pianist except Liszt can do what Yuja does. She has to be from an advanced alien planet.
@@loving-everyone-equally 'Bogged down to no good purpose'! Another nice definition of the majority of Yuja trolls. Musical opinion CAN differ intelligently (and I, tho' a fan of hers, do not lay claim to everything she plays being 'definitive'), and emotional likes or dislikes run rampant in musical history (Mozart vs Clementi/Liszt vs Clara Schumann/Horowitz vs Rubinstein/etc). But most of her naysayers here hate what she wears, and are jealous of her technical ability. This 'informs' their critical mindset; the cart before the horse, and simple irrelevant prejudice as such...
@@capblood3046 I'll have to agree with almost everything you said. Good job brother. Do you play yourself? I wish I did not chime in, because it takes time away from my own practice. I need 12 hours per day again to get back what I had 50 years ago before my family karma kicked in.
How come only people outside of the classical community can appreciate it for what it is without calling it a "chaotic mess". Get the stick out of your ass 😂 but I get it Mr. music theory blah blah blah
@JaCuzz Oda In reply to the comment that you deleted: It's not that I don't like the piece. In fact, I love it! But being the picky bastard that I am, none of the recordings are clean enough for me---even the legendary de Larrocha. The only version I can listen to happily is the Musecore midi 💀 But that's my problem, not Albéniz's!
Avec tous les concerts qu’elle donne et le travail que cela demande j’espère qu’elle prend le temps de souffler et aussi de faire autre chose pour ne pas être blasée de jouer !! Il est indispensable de faire des breaks pour garder intacte la passion de la MUSIQUE !!🙏
I hope Yuja is ok. Something seemed off with her performances in Verbier this year, including the last-minute cancellation of the live streams, and not full performances being released. This Albeniz is excellent still but feels a bit routine as do some of her performances recently.
Don't know. A lot of performances were cancelled because of COVID. She could be slightly out of practice for a performer of her level. I know from playing tennis that some days, every shot just seems on and then other days there are more missed shots. She could be tired from traveling or have other issues that are affecting her mood. Any way you cut it, she is a wonderful pianist with a very extensive repertoire.
Lmao all the classical bourgeoisie dweebs in the comments talking about a whole lot of nothing. Go back to music theory class so you can have socratic seminars on why her playing sounds "off" while those of us with real emotion and unbiased ears enjoy a master at work 😉
Belle Princesse, arrivée au sommet, Vous n' avez plus rien à prouver, et le chronomètre ne vous départagera pas. ( Dinu Lipatti & Maurizio Pollini )( que va piano....)
I know these pieces are extremely difficult to play, but I miss the Spanish sole in these interpretations. Melody line is sometimes not very clear. To my opinion De Larrocha was the only one who really mastered this cycle of twelve pieces. She sort of inherited the Spanish piano music and she produced a very beautiful sound which was unique as well as her rubato. Certainly on the EMI recordings (old Hispavox).
You are unfairly running down Wang's performance by merely placing it against an alternative version you personally happen to prefer. You give no tenable reason for this preference which is capable of response.
As much as I admire her musical genius and technical virtuosity, and know that she is truly a marvelous pianist, I hear nothing of the Spanish flair in this music. It seems to be more technical than anything. All of the music of the various cultures and nationalities have there own idioms, cultural sounds and subtle musical perceptions. We can say that of Beethoven, whose Viennese tradition I adhere to, along with Schubert. The French have their own sound, the Spanish theirs, and the Americans theirs, etc. etc. I think she needs to go into this more, and to be aware of it, and to develop her musical sensibilities in this area. The best way is to listen to the old masters, especially those that had the tradition handed directly down to them through the composers themselves, and to have that musical encounter in the countries where they lived. However, that does not mean giving up one's own musical perception, but tradition is the best teacher.
Your case is overstated and wrongheaded. One does not have to be of a certain ethnicity to play with 'flair'. The notes and traditions are around for any musician to study and absorb. Often, in fact, some of the best interpreters of compositions are NOT of that country. Your right not to like this performance or play, but let's not put it down to some spurious magic 'tradition' or ethnic exclusivity...Yuja Wang, through a lifetime of study, listening, and being taught and exposed to the best, knows all about 'idioms' and 'cultural sounds and subtle musical perceptions'. Sorry, but you simply sound rather pretentious and disrespectful...
Maybe she is beginning to realize how ridiculous she looks in her costumes! Or she thinks her flawless technique makes up for the lack of musical expression. There are lots of outstanding female musicians who are beautiful with wonderful figures, but they have enough self respect to not flaunt it. Yuja is clearly an exhibitionist.
And you are clearly not only musically shallow, but morally antediluvian. Warning: stay off the internet, Nancy!!! Might expose you too much to the modern world, and a wider world view than your blinkered and biased viewpoint demonstrates any respect for...
¡Gracias Yuja por interpretar música española! Es muy difícil.
Nothing seems "off" to me. All I hear is the magnificent Albeniz.
If you watched the live streams of the Tchaikovsky / Shostakovich Trio, or the Liszt Concerto, or the bits of this recital, just by her manner coming off and on stage, something wasn't right. This Albeniz is great, and she is a consummate professional, but at least to me something was different.
To me Yuja ranks among the greatest. The unpleasant comments, let say without being negative are uninspired.
LOL-'uninspired' ! I love that un-negative put down! I shall borrow it from now on-well said!
@@capblood3046 If I told it like it is, they'd go on the attack and we all get bogged down for no good purpose.
No pianist except Liszt can do what Yuja does. She has to be from an advanced alien planet.
@@loving-everyone-equally 'Bogged down to no good purpose'! Another nice definition of the majority of Yuja trolls. Musical opinion CAN differ intelligently (and I, tho' a fan of hers, do not lay claim to everything she plays being 'definitive'), and emotional likes or dislikes run rampant in musical history (Mozart vs Clementi/Liszt vs Clara Schumann/Horowitz vs Rubinstein/etc). But most of her naysayers here hate what she wears, and are jealous of her technical ability. This 'informs' their critical mindset; the cart before the horse, and simple irrelevant prejudice as such...
@@capblood3046 I'll have to agree with almost everything you said. Good job brother. Do you play yourself? I wish I did not chime in, because it takes time away from my own practice. I need 12 hours per day again to get back what I had 50 years ago before my family karma kicked in.
Even for a pianist as good as Yuja Wang, it’s impossible to not make the beginning of Lavapies sound like a chaotic mess. Albéniz was such a troll 😂😭
How come only people outside of the classical community can appreciate it for what it is without calling it a "chaotic mess". Get the stick out of your ass 😂 but I get it Mr. music theory blah blah blah
@JaCuzz Oda In reply to the comment that you deleted: It's not that I don't like the piece. In fact, I love it! But being the picky bastard that I am, none of the recordings are clean enough for me---even the legendary de Larrocha. The only version I can listen to happily is the Musecore midi 💀 But that's my problem, not Albéniz's!
Avec tous les concerts qu’elle donne et le travail que cela demande j’espère qu’elle prend le temps de souffler et aussi de faire autre chose pour ne pas être blasée de jouer !!
Il est indispensable de faire des breaks pour garder intacte la passion de la MUSIQUE !!🙏
Elle n'a jamais été très expressive, c'est cela sa façon de jouer.
I hope Yuja is ok. Something seemed off with her performances in Verbier this year, including the last-minute cancellation of the live streams, and not full performances being released. This Albeniz is excellent still but feels a bit routine as do some of her performances recently.
Don't know. A lot of performances were cancelled because of COVID. She could be slightly out of practice for a performer of her level. I know from playing tennis that some days, every shot just seems on and then other days there are more missed shots. She could be tired from traveling or have other issues that are affecting her mood. Any way you cut it, she is a wonderful pianist with a very extensive repertoire.
Interesting choice of her to leave the sports watch on for a performance 🤔
yea I noticed the sports watch. I think she was sick. People get sick.
She's tired. The Proms Liszt perhaps?! She maybe caught a cold from wearing almost nothing at that concert.
I hope she is NOT ! She is still playing piano ? Disaster , like her " friend " Lang- Lang !!
Es el plan de aventura para este domingo.
Lmao all the classical bourgeoisie dweebs in the comments talking about a whole lot of nothing. Go back to music theory class so you can have socratic seminars on why her playing sounds "off" while those of us with real emotion and unbiased ears enjoy a master at work 😉
Belle Princesse, arrivée au sommet, Vous n' avez plus rien à prouver, et le chronomètre ne vous départagera pas.
( Dinu Lipatti & Maurizio Pollini )( que va piano....)
P.M.problems?
That would be a man’s suggestion! Don’t you know you can take pills for that you know? Sportswomen do! Perhaps she just had a viral infection!
@@bobbiemay6867 yes smart doctor,you know everything, congratulations.
I know these pieces are extremely difficult to play, but I miss the Spanish sole in these interpretations. Melody line is sometimes not very clear. To my opinion De Larrocha was the only one who really mastered this cycle of twelve pieces. She sort of inherited the Spanish piano music and she produced a very beautiful sound which was unique as well as her rubato. Certainly on the EMI recordings (old Hispavox).
You are unfairly running down Wang's performance by merely placing it against an alternative version you personally happen to prefer. You give no tenable reason for this preference which is capable of response.
As much as I admire her musical genius and technical virtuosity, and know that she is truly a marvelous pianist, I hear nothing of the Spanish flair in this music. It seems to be more technical than anything. All of the music of the various cultures and nationalities have there own idioms, cultural sounds and subtle musical perceptions. We can say that of Beethoven, whose Viennese tradition I adhere to, along with Schubert. The French have their own sound, the Spanish theirs, and the Americans theirs, etc. etc. I think she needs to go into this more, and to be aware of it, and to develop her musical sensibilities in this area. The best way is to listen to the old masters, especially those that had the tradition handed directly down to them through the composers themselves, and to have that musical encounter in the countries where they lived. However, that does not mean giving up one's own musical perception, but tradition is the best teacher.
Your case is overstated and wrongheaded. One does not have to be of a certain ethnicity to play with 'flair'. The notes and traditions are around for any musician to study and absorb. Often, in fact, some of the best interpreters of compositions are NOT of that country. Your right not to like this performance or play, but let's not put it down to some spurious magic 'tradition' or ethnic exclusivity...Yuja Wang, through a lifetime of study, listening, and being taught and exposed to the best, knows all about 'idioms' and 'cultural sounds and subtle musical perceptions'. Sorry, but you simply sound rather pretentious and disrespectful...
The never-ending dilemma of this sheila: what parts of the body to expose and how to better expose them 😜?!
C'est moche de jouer avec cette montre
Maybe its a 'fitbit' counting her notes?
I hope the watch survived!
Vraiment; mais pas plus moche que d'étaler des cuisses nues et autres choses... .
@@curaticac5391 ah non, ça curieusement je préfère 😁
Maybe she is beginning to realize how ridiculous she looks in her costumes! Or she thinks her flawless technique makes up for the lack of musical expression. There are lots of outstanding female musicians who are beautiful with wonderful figures, but they have enough self respect to not flaunt it. Yuja is clearly an exhibitionist.
Absolutely. She also has no warm sonority. Frigid.
And you are clearly not only musically shallow, but morally antediluvian. Warning: stay off the internet, Nancy!!! Might expose you too much to the modern world, and a wider world view than your blinkered and biased viewpoint demonstrates any respect for...
@@thepianocornertpc Lol-what musically ignorant prejudice. Thank God I am not in your piano corner; must be artistically narrow and frigid.
@@capblood3046 You're not welcome in my corner.
@@thepianocornertpc And, having listened to some of your own mediocre piano playing on your 'channel', thank God for that...
She ( Wang ) canns only play " fast " no idea about musik , should more listen to Russia Pianists !
You should only listen to the voices in your head. Then you might not post your unintelligent nonsense here...
All you ever get from Russia is genocide