With only one fighting game character added for Smash Ultimate (Ken), and one added in Fighters Pass One (Terry), do you think fighting game characters are really out of the running in Fighters Pass Two after Min Min?
Nah, but i expect to see new genres and at least one fighter that's just sakurai messing with random concepts, like he did with Piranha Plant. Call it "the sakurai factor".
I do think it's pretty unlikely Didn't Sakurai mention during min mins presentation that he doesn't usually like to pick characters from fighting games? (since apparently this way they're more interesting because smash itself is a fighting game already and they wouldn't change too much or sth?)
@@barnacle-v2e I don't recall him saying that, and honestly based on his love for SNK I REALLY doubt it. It's a complaint that comes from some people in the community and somehow spread around. Frankly, seeing a fighting game character translated into other fighting games has always been interesting for a lot of people. For instance 2D characters like Akuma or Haomaru in 3D games like Tekken and Soul Calibur respectively or Tekken characters in a 2D engine (Street Fighter x Tekken). Or any of these folks in a platformer like smash (Terry, Ken/Ryu)...
Well yes, but actually no. There's a fighting game character coming later in the pack, but they're not...Primarily fighting? It's kind of confusing really. Like they have a couple of fighting games, but they're also from another genre so, take that for what its worth.
I don't care how many times you get anything wrong, I'm here for the videos, not for the facts. Even if your channel has 12.3K subscribers right now, I can tell the internet will notice you at some point.
In the Min Min presentation, Sakurai defined arms as a “competitive action game” so if a shooter character is added later down the line, you could always take the 6% from the action rep and switch it out for the shooter rep if it comes to it
Unless male was cut im pretty sure Shadow counts too i guess. But then again, Shadow is technically an android, so maybe not. Eggman however...... Genre: Platformer. Gender: Male. Origin: East. Era: 1990's. Publisher: Returning. Series: Returning. Im still pretty salty for my boy Yoshimtisu tho :c Also Eggman doesn't need a mech, he can just use Metal Sonic or any other robots.
Clean, beautiful editing? Bizarre and often hilarious attempts at categorization? Yep, it's another BGD video. I highly suggest you check out his non-Smash videos if you haven't already. Also his Smash videos, but the others are criminally underrated. Anyway, this was a pretty good attempt at assessing how Min Min's arrival applies to your established ruleset. I look forward to it shattering to pieces when Sakurai's fanatical devotion to SNK fighting games drives him to add Nakoruru from Samurai Shodown as Fighter 77.
BackSeat: I am gonna use maths to deconfirm figther pass characters Sakurai: Hey bro do you want someone in the game? Employee: Idk one from angry birds? Sakurai: Ok
I feel if kirby gets another rep it will most likely Bandanna Dee. All the villains in the kirby series don't really feel like a good rep except Marx and nightmare(who are already a boss and assist trophy respectively). When it comes to heroes we already have all the main ones and only Bandana Dee is left.
I have a feeling the we might see more "spirit" fighters coming on this pass Sakurai also stated that they will change the spirit fights in future updates,that at least hints on more especial mii costumes comming,funny enough,i did buy Min Min,but her original spirit battle still uses Corrin. From what i got from Min Min, if future spirit fighters come to smash, they will have a new separate artwork as a spirit with the title (fighter) next to the name
@@dylanenriguehuntington2908 the fact that Springman was conciderd during the dlc development makes me belive that assist throphies CAN be dlc fighters
@@HappyLittleWorker well it does hin at future especial mii costumes at least, spirits based on mii costumes we already have like the assasines creed, vault boy,ect
This is exactly why I thought your math is off. There are some factors that certainly do look like they contribute, but Sakurai has also noted that game series that are unrepresented in Smash. This rule didn’t apply to Byleth, however its easy to assume Sakurai himself didn’t want another FE character and it was more so Nintendo forcing him to make them a character. Besides that though, Sakurai has shown he wants new unique characters who have also shown relevance to either gaming history or are popular within the last 20 years. Theres a little bit of personal interest in it for him to since Min Min wouldn’t be everyones first choice
@@danielleballsackguy7374 well 2B is definitely a solid pick, but I’m not sure about her inclusion since she was in SoulCalibur. Not to mention there are other picks like Sora, Lara Croft, and maybe Noctis from Squares library. However if we’re making arguments for her in, she has become somewhat of a household name. Most of the gaming community knows what she is, and hack and slash games haven’t really been represented (unless you count Fire Emblem or Hyrule Warriors). Plus she could have an interesting moveset, but I in all honesty there are other SE reps I can see having a better inclusion. Not that 2B doesn’t have no chance of getting in, but I just think its unlikely especially over others like Crash, Doomguy, or someone like Scorpion
minecraft is a platformer that came out in the 2010s, not only with a male lead of being a both with alex and the gang. Plus its a new publisher and yeah thats it maths still there. OH though pyra is a big hurt. shes technically a neither. so big oop.
Okay, lets update: Minecraft Steve: Sandbox game (counts as ?), Both (Male Lead), West, could be counted as 2010s even though Miecraft was released in 2009, but its complete edition was in 2011, Returning Publisher (Joker/Sega logic) and new series. Sephiroth: RPG, Male, East, 1990s, Return Pub, Return Series. Heres were problems start Pyra and Mythra: RPG, Both?, East, then 2010s is taken, but if we put Minecraft as 2000s only and we get 2010 for Pyra and Mythra then its fine, Return Pub and Return Series. Basically, we are left with 2 platformers, 2 males, 2 east, 1 1980s and 1 1990s, 1 Return Pub and 1 new Pub, and 1 Return series and 1 New series. Using this, Crash is out, Eggman has a very high chance, Ryu Hayabusa may be introduced, maybe Waluigi? But who knows, Sakurai is unpredictable
I feel like saying Min Min would be classified as “Female + Neither” is like saying that ZSS would be “Female + Neither” because she has a gun and mechanical high heels. I feel like ARMS are less mechanical augmentations (ala cyborgs, androids, etc.) and more simply weapons equipped by those with the ARMS ability.
Dan & Elissa Nolan the times he constantly reiterates that his system is absolutely and undoubtedly infallible? he’s obviously not serious lol. if he said it was satire it’d lose any effect
I’ve been subbed since your first smash math vid (which is how I found you) and I assumed this was like a 500k+ subs channel. YOU ONLY HAVE 12k! This is the most high quality content I’ve ever seen from a channel this small! Keep up the great work!
Steve Update: Genre: picking up the scraps Gender: Both (possibly male lean) Region: West Era: 2010s (when 1.0 was released) Publisher: Either (New (Mojang)/Returning (Microsoft)) Series: New
Well then, time to figure out how well *Steve* fits into all this. Genre: *Survival Building/Crafting* (? could be used as wildcard genre is you want, but otherwise...) Gender: Both/Both with Male lean(Steve and Alex, plus Zombie and Enderman are species, so they could arguably be either gender, male, or neither) Origin: West Era: *2000s* Publisher: New? Series: New Slots that will need finagling or may just not fit at all are bolded. Era is the hardest to recover IMO.
Fun fact: many people associate Foreman Spike from “Wrecking Crew” with Waluigi. These characters’ debuts came out in 1985 and 2000 respectively. So, thus, it is possible, with a bit of finagling perhaps, that Waluigi can still come to Smash if Nintendo agrees with this association. Maybe.
@Paulo Figueiredo Fair, however the second video in this series stated that only official rules count rather than fanmade rules. It has never been directly stated that assist trophies can’t be fighters, so the rules of this series allow it.
Did Steve count? Yes! Genre: ? (Sandbox) Gender: Both Origin: West Era: This is tricky. You could count the one that combines 1980s+2000s and just take the 2000s, or you could just go with 2010s because Minecraft was released really close to 2010 (2009) edit: yeah it is 2010s because if you go by Alex’s inclusion, she was released after 2010 Publisher: Returning (Microsoft with Banjo Kazooie) Series: New
I’m not sure if this was covered but Ryu Hayabusa still seems like a solid bet for me: ? Genre as hack & slash/ platformer Male East 1980s + 2000s Returning pub- Koei Tecmo Returning Series- originated on NES Especially since there’s still demand for a new Ninja Gaiden game and their secondary publisher, team ninja, has made notable games like Nioh and Fire Emblem/ Hyrule Warriors
Here's a thought, a tweet from Bethesda said that they were actively trying to get one of their characters into smash bros. With Min Min comes Vault Boy Mii Gunner, so I wonder if this de-confirms characters like Doom Guy and Dovahkin
I will never stop hoping for Doomguy, there is not a single FPS rep inside this game and that’s one of the biggest genres of gaming history. I know this is supposed to be a celebration of gaming, and if you ignore one of the biggest genres ever, it really isn’t a celebration of gaming. It’s a celebration of who they think represents gaming well
if you somehow bring a character that no one suspects until its released you will be praised for you crazy logic and sense for how the next one will be chosen but more likely it will be a character from a series that a director says something like "I like this guy put them in" since thats literally what happened with Min Min
Minecraft Steve would be Adventure/Survival or something, fitting the ?, it would be both with a male lead, west, 2010s (most popular during then), returning pub, and new series.
While I'm sad characters like 2B, Sol Badguy, and various other fighting game or female characters might be out of the running, this does kinda narrow speculation even though these videos are not 100% fact but are logical
@@dylanenriguehuntington2908 Not to mention assist trophy possibilities. Mantis Lords, Grimm, or THK suddenly drop on the arena and everyone freaks out.
I just found this channel but I feel like the math isn't adding up. Sure you can use probability to help predict likely future fighters, but it's no guarantee. What you are doing in this video is akin to flipping a coin heads and then saying "the math guarantees the next flip will be tails to preserve the 50-50 probability." My analogy is a lot more simple than what you are doing to calculate probability of the next fighter, but the fallacy is the same. The probability of previous results do not ensure the probability of future results, especially for something as complex as a character roster. Although, I did sense a health dose of sarcastic self awareness at the end of your video, so I'm assuming you already know about the problems with your math.
Glad to see that the Knight (from Hollow Knight) isn't out of the running. (Platformer - Male - West - 2010s - New Publisher - New Series) Edit: Actually I think the Knight may be a Neither. Not sure though.
The Knight and all other vessels are neither because they were "killed" by void in their eggs and are now void creatures, but Hornet is female so I'm still holding out hope for the Knight, Hornet, or maybe even Lace
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Minecraft Steve takes up: the one *? Genere* (a Sandbox game), *Both* Gender spot, the one *Western* spot, the one *2010s* (although public in 2009, the offical release was 2011), a *Returning Publisher* (assuming we're saying from Microsoft and not Mojang), and a *New Series* spot.
Oof....I think Steve might've broken this. It's a new series, both genders (Steve and Alex), one of the question marks for Genre, and I guess if Banjo counts as Western then he does too. However, Minecraft released in 2009. The 2000s requirement says that they must represent the 1980s as well. You might have to redo your math backseat :/
you fool, the rep calculations aren't a quota to be maintained, but a curve to be graphed! Mapping the changes in each category onto a graph and projecting them forward should give us a more accurate estimation of future content. It's science!
Completely insane to me that this channel doesn’t have hundreds of thousands of subs yet. This channel loosely reminds me of Game Makers Tool Kit, so hopefully you get the attention that they did!
I'd love to see an old timer expansion pass where thankfully Nintendo gets permission to get Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Shantae, Heavy from TF2, and Crono from Chrono Trigger in
1. Fighter pass 2 probably won’t be the last one so they’ll probably have a chance down the line. 2. Min Min is just fighter not fighter + shooter. Even if it’s just 9% it is what it is.
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With only one fighting game character added for Smash Ultimate (Ken), and one added in Fighters Pass One (Terry), do you think fighting game characters are really out of the running in Fighters Pass Two after Min Min?
Nah, but i expect to see new genres and at least one fighter that's just sakurai messing with random concepts, like he did with Piranha Plant. Call it "the sakurai factor".
Definitely not
I do think it's pretty unlikely
Didn't Sakurai mention during min mins presentation that he doesn't usually like to pick characters from fighting games? (since apparently this way they're more interesting because smash itself is a fighting game already and they wouldn't change too much or sth?)
@@barnacle-v2e I don't recall him saying that, and honestly based on his love for SNK I REALLY doubt it. It's a complaint that comes from some people in the community and somehow spread around.
Frankly, seeing a fighting game character translated into other fighting games has always been interesting for a lot of people. For instance 2D characters like Akuma or Haomaru in 3D games like Tekken and Soul Calibur respectively or Tekken characters in a 2D engine (Street Fighter x Tekken). Or any of these folks in a platformer like smash (Terry, Ken/Ryu)...
Well yes, but actually no. There's a fighting game character coming later in the pack, but they're not...Primarily fighting? It's kind of confusing really. Like they have a couple of fighting games, but they're also from another genre so, take that for what its worth.
I don't care how many times you get anything wrong, I'm here for the videos, not for the facts. Even if your channel has 12.3K subscribers right now, I can tell the internet will notice you at some point.
Dan & Elissa Nolan I know right? He’s Editing is top tier
They will soon. Hopefully asap.
I am also here for the math and science of it all. Kinda like Game Theory but before they touched FNAF.
He’s already up like 1.5K in a week.
Its fast after 1 week its now 13.9
Plot Twist: Every remaining character is a variation in color to Birdo.
Super Smash Tour
Can't wait for Green Birdo. But yellow Birdo is going to ruin the game, I can feel it
@@NinjaPickle Dude I feel the same way, Yellow Birdo is gonna make the game boring Man...
I just want Birdo.
Birdo is now valid
In the Min Min presentation, Sakurai defined arms as a “competitive action game” so if a shooter character is added later down the line, you could always take the 6% from the action rep and switch it out for the shooter rep if it comes to it
*takes notes furiously*
@@BackseatYT Min Min could also be in the sports games because the Arms is like a boxing game
@@jkahl5596 plus u got V-Ball and Basketball game modes in it
Master Chief 👁️👄👁️
@@BackseatYT why didn't you explain 2b
Yep, ya boi *Magikarp* counts.
Genre: RPG
Gender: Both
Origin: East
Era: 1990s
Publisher: Returning
Series: Returning
For his neutral special, he wields a *splash.*
This would be an amazing idea actually. Getting your ass kicked by a pro Magikarp mainer
Yes
his side B would be flop
Unless male was cut im pretty sure Shadow counts too i guess. But then again, Shadow is technically an android, so maybe not. Eggman however......
Genre: Platformer.
Gender: Male.
Origin: East.
Era: 1990's.
Publisher: Returning.
Series: Returning.
Im still pretty salty for my boy Yoshimtisu tho :c
Also Eggman doesn't need a mech, he can just use Metal Sonic or any other robots.
Edit: I can't wait to see how the math changes depending on Minecraft Steve
You spell honesty wrong
Great flames246 you spelt honestly wrong
Mega Man is a title applied to a robot. Technically Mega Man is genderless, but is referred to as a Man.
Mega Man is genderless but has a male AI
To those talking about Mega Man:
I quote: "PART NEUTRAL [GENDER]"
I already love these videos but now I'm gonna be thrilled to check in with every Smash DLC update!
Hi Eddache i love your videos
Eddache Hi edd!
Clean, beautiful editing? Bizarre and often hilarious attempts at categorization? Yep, it's another BGD video. I highly suggest you check out his non-Smash videos if you haven't already. Also his Smash videos, but the others are criminally underrated.
Anyway, this was a pretty good attempt at assessing how Min Min's arrival applies to your established ruleset. I look forward to it shattering to pieces when Sakurai's fanatical devotion to SNK fighting games drives him to add Nakoruru from Samurai Shodown as Fighter 77.
Someone finally gets it
I thought for a sec you typed BDG as in Brian David Gilbert and it still made just as much sense 😂
YES IT'S HERE, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
THE MOMENT HAS COME
@@BackseatYT it really has 😳👉👈
NoScopeDeezCups stop talking peasant
@@marioruvalcaba9487 let them eat cake bruv
*YA SEE THAT SHINJI!?*
I'm just sitting here like, "Well no one expected Byleth so can we all agree that none of this is likely to happen?"
I feel like you’d need to make other partially-robotic characters [gender]+neither for this to make any possible fraction of sense
Yeah this is cuckoo for coconuts.
Just came here (a little late, in fact) to say that the math still checks out with Steve... depending on what genre you argue Minecraft is lol
BackSeat:
I am gonna use maths to deconfirm figther pass characters
Sakurai:
Hey bro do you want someone in the game?
Employee:
Idk one from angry birds?
Sakurai: Ok
So what I hear is Bandana Waddle Dee still, statistically, has a chance
Don't do that. Don't give me hope.
The Kirby series is in desperate need of a rep and I think bandana dee fits the bill. Although every dream friend in star allies really has a chance.
I feel if kirby gets another rep it will most likely Bandanna Dee. All the villains in the kirby series don't really feel like a good rep except Marx and nightmare(who are already a boss and assist trophy respectively). When it comes to heroes we already have all the main ones and only Bandana Dee is left.
Yes, because now, spirits don’t deconfirm characters
Andrew Mokhtary Desperate need of a rep? It already has 3.
ohhhhh yesssss this series is still going, pleasure as always bud, every episode is bloody fab from start to finish
A little thing like being wrong has never stopped me before!
"Kicked out of their game permanently" Sakurai: *Later announces fighter pass 3*
I have a feeling the we might see more "spirit" fighters coming on this pass
Sakurai also stated that they will change the spirit fights in future updates,that at least hints on more especial mii costumes comming,funny enough,i did buy Min Min,but her original spirit battle still uses Corrin.
From what i got from Min Min, if future spirit fighters come to smash, they will have a new separate artwork as a spirit with the title (fighter) next to the name
C'mon Waluigi! Being a spirit cant stop you now! We just need Nintendo to debunk assist trophy deconfirms.
@@dylanenriguehuntington2908 the fact that Springman was conciderd during the dlc development makes me belive that assist throphies CAN be dlc fighters
I just hope Shadow still has a chance
They don't have a theme. But Sakurai supposedly said this theme is freshness. But I wouldn't get my hopes up on more spirit fighters
@@HappyLittleWorker well it does hin at future especial mii costumes at least, spirits based on mii costumes we already have like the assasines creed, vault boy,ect
GOD this is probably the most underrated channel in the world
I love just going back and rewatching all of these every once and a while. Great videos
Never clicked so fast
I've never been so excited to watch a math video, well done!
I CAME AS FAST AS I COULD. BACKSEAT AT IT AGAIN
I think the most fun part of this will be seeing how you adapt when the mathematics start to fail as more characters are announced
Backseat Game Development: *Presents viable Math*
Nintendo: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move
The idea that anyone thinks this is how sakurai chooses fighters is hilarious
;
Whatever.
Yes, that is the joke
This is exactly why I thought your math is off. There are some factors that certainly do look like they contribute, but Sakurai has also noted that game series that are unrepresented in Smash. This rule didn’t apply to Byleth, however its easy to assume Sakurai himself didn’t want another FE character and it was more so Nintendo forcing him to make them a character. Besides that though, Sakurai has shown he wants new unique characters who have also shown relevance to either gaming history or are popular within the last 20 years. Theres a little bit of personal interest in it for him to since Min Min wouldn’t be everyones first choice
Please make an argument for 2b
@@danielleballsackguy7374 well 2B is definitely a solid pick, but I’m not sure about her inclusion since she was in SoulCalibur. Not to mention there are other picks like Sora, Lara Croft, and maybe Noctis from Squares library. However if we’re making arguments for her in, she has become somewhat of a household name. Most of the gaming community knows what she is, and hack and slash games haven’t really been represented (unless you count Fire Emblem or Hyrule Warriors). Plus she could have an interesting moveset, but I in all honesty there are other SE reps I can see having a better inclusion. Not that 2B doesn’t have no chance of getting in, but I just think its unlikely especially over others like Crash, Doomguy, or someone like Scorpion
@@zachtemoro2116 thanks for trying
Looks like Steve just mined some incorrect math ore.
minecraft is a platformer that came out in the 2010s, not only with a male lead of being a both with alex and the gang. Plus its a new publisher and yeah thats it maths still there. OH though pyra is a big hurt. shes technically a neither. so big oop.
I can't wait for the next one with Steve, this is my favorite type of videos of figthers pass 2 line up
Okay, lets update:
Minecraft Steve: Sandbox game (counts as ?), Both (Male Lead), West, could be counted as 2010s even though Miecraft was released in 2009, but its complete edition was in 2011, Returning Publisher (Joker/Sega logic) and new series.
Sephiroth: RPG, Male, East, 1990s, Return Pub, Return Series.
Heres were problems start
Pyra and Mythra: RPG, Both?, East, then 2010s is taken, but if we put Minecraft as 2000s only and we get 2010 for Pyra and Mythra then its fine, Return Pub and Return Series.
Basically, we are left with 2 platformers, 2 males, 2 east, 1 1980s and 1 1990s, 1 Return Pub and 1 new Pub, and 1 Return series and 1 New series.
Using this, Crash is out, Eggman has a very high chance, Ryu Hayabusa may be introduced, maybe Waluigi?
But who knows, Sakurai is unpredictable
Sakurai has defeated math
This has some of the most quality editing ive ever seen its unbelievable to think this channel only has 12k subs
I feel like saying Min Min would be classified as “Female + Neither” is like saying that ZSS would be “Female + Neither” because she has a gun and mechanical high heels. I feel like ARMS are less mechanical augmentations (ala cyborgs, androids, etc.) and more simply weapons equipped by those with the ARMS ability.
This video is satire
@@silasnichols7593 When did it say that again?
Dan & Elissa Nolan the times he constantly reiterates that his system is absolutely and undoubtedly infallible? he’s obviously not serious lol. if he said it was satire it’d lose any effect
This channel perfectly represents quality over quantity! though it has been nice 2 videos so close together
Here we meet again.
I’ve been subbed since your first smash math vid (which is how I found you) and I assumed this was like a 500k+ subs channel. YOU ONLY HAVE 12k! This is the most high quality content I’ve ever seen from a channel this small! Keep up the great work!
Steve Update:
Genre: picking up the scraps
Gender: Both (possibly male lean)
Region: West
Era: 2010s (when 1.0 was released)
Publisher: Either (New (Mojang)/Returning (Microsoft))
Series: New
No no no no, you- you can't just- GIVE ARMS a new genre, especially when in the trailer it *SPECIFICALLY SAYS FIGHTING GAME*
Love your content!!! keep up the good work and you'll easily break a million in two years.
BIRDO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :(
*me casually waiting for this math to fall apart when the new fighter is announced Oct 1st 2020*
It hasn’t fallen apart yet. Next time for sure though
Well then, time to figure out how well *Steve* fits into all this.
Genre: *Survival Building/Crafting* (? could be used as wildcard genre is you want, but otherwise...)
Gender: Both/Both with Male lean(Steve and Alex, plus Zombie and Enderman are species, so they could arguably be either gender, male, or neither)
Origin: West
Era: *2000s*
Publisher: New?
Series: New
Slots that will need finagling or may just not fit at all are bolded. Era is the hardest to recover IMO.
Lets not forget about Sephiroth:
Genre: RPG
Gender: Male
Origin: East
Era: 1990's
Publisher: Return Pub
Series: Return series
No matter what the math says. I will continue to believe in my classic & modern, indie, female, platformer.
#ShantaeForSmash
In another life, Birdo. In another life.
I love these videos, its interesting and the editing is really good
Fun fact: many people associate Foreman Spike from “Wrecking Crew” with Waluigi. These characters’ debuts came out in 1985 and 2000 respectively. So, thus, it is possible, with a bit of finagling perhaps, that Waluigi can still come to Smash if Nintendo agrees with this association.
Maybe.
Spring Man wasn't the character chosen for Arms so we still don't know if assist trophies deconfirm characters.
@Paulo Figueiredo Fair, however the second video in this series stated that only official rules count rather than fanmade rules. It has never been directly stated that assist trophies can’t be fighters, so the rules of this series allow it.
Crash (With Coco Alt) Is Still In The Running
Genre: Platformer
Gender: Both (Male Lead)
Region: West
Year: 1990’s
Publisher: New
Series: New
There is a Japanese crash bandicoot
Did Steve count? Yes!
Genre: ? (Sandbox)
Gender: Both
Origin: West
Era: This is tricky. You could count the one that combines 1980s+2000s and just take the 2000s, or you could just go with 2010s because Minecraft was released really close to 2010 (2009) edit: yeah it is 2010s because if you go by Alex’s inclusion, she was released after 2010
Publisher: Returning (Microsoft with Banjo Kazooie)
Series: New
Really hope Paper Mario makes the cut! (No pun intended)
That'd make a good character announcement ngl
I don’t think so
Sakurai: Your looking into it to hard man, I just want to add some characters.
This is my favourite way to spend my time when I'm not playing Smash.
Your videos are actually really awesome
I’m not sure if this was covered but Ryu Hayabusa still seems like a solid bet for me:
? Genre as hack & slash/ platformer
Male
East
1980s + 2000s
Returning pub- Koei Tecmo
Returning Series- originated on NES
Especially since there’s still demand for a new Ninja Gaiden game and their secondary publisher, team ninja, has made notable games like Nioh and Fire Emblem/ Hyrule Warriors
Koei Tecmo isn't a returning Publisher
With Steve and Alex from Minecraft being properly introduced into Smash, will backseat give us a new update? Who else is out? Or is it worth it?
So..... Pyra and Mythra destroy your chart right?
This is like watching the most quality shit post that borders on not being a shit post and it's great
And you said there wouldn't be another fighting game rep, looks like not even math can predict smash characters correctly
Here's a thought, a tweet from Bethesda said that they were actively trying to get one of their characters into smash bros. With Min Min comes Vault Boy Mii Gunner, so I wonder if this de-confirms characters like Doom Guy and Dovahkin
I got my second most wanted character from my most wanted series in smash so I don’t care who is and isn’t next
Happy for you
I got some Doki Doki Litterature Club vibes with Birdo's part.
I will never stop hoping for Doomguy, there is not a single FPS rep inside this game and that’s one of the biggest genres of gaming history. I know this is supposed to be a celebration of gaming, and if you ignore one of the biggest genres ever, it really isn’t a celebration of gaming. It’s a celebration of who they think represents gaming well
"Computer-based females are deconfirmed by math."
*laughs in Pyra/Mythra*
This poor man's mathematics
You should've calculated the color of every fighter to see what would be the most likely color the new characters would be.
Ok, this is my favourite channel and series. You are so funny- I can’t. Omg I’m cryinh
Backseat: *De-confirms Fighting characters*
Sakurai: *how bout i do anyway*
I think the irony behind some of those statements (arms = part neither?) adds to how legit this could be
Seems I turned bell notifications on at the right time!
Imagine if one of these characters got out of the cell. You'd be pissed lol.
He won't be alone...😠
if you somehow bring a character that no one suspects until its released you will be praised for you crazy logic and sense for how the next one will be chosen but more likely it will be a character from a series that a director says something like "I like this guy put them in" since thats literally what happened with Min Min
Minecraft Steve would be Adventure/Survival or something, fitting the ?, it would be both with a male lead, west, 2010s (most popular during then), returning pub, and new series.
I love how despite saying this video will age better, it didn’t, due to saying Steve wouldn’t be in smash
2:07 Arms if I do recall was referred to as a "party" game but a sure fighting game.
While I'm sad characters like 2B, Sol Badguy, and various other fighting game or female characters might be out of the running, this does kinda narrow speculation even though these videos are not 100% fact but are logical
Oh I'm so happy you're updating these!
Pyra and Mythra created a loophole in this theory
Psycho Soldier music ❤️
My prediction of the fighter pass was correct.
"Something that we were never going to expect"
That danganronpa music made me repeatedly dab for 10 minutes 35 seconds.
So... Steve. 2010s, Western, male lean, new publisher, new series.
The publisher could be seen as Eastern if you see Mojang as its publisher
@@Ultranger I suppose it counts.
Ghost or Hornet from Hollow Knight is still my number 1 pick for the next spot.
Same here (and while Hornet is now ruled out according to the math, the Knight/Ghost still has a chance!).
I'd like the knight too. The moveset potential is awesome for these characters.
@@grilledjello I think Hornet has the best chance because of Silksong. Great cross promotion.
@@dylanenriguehuntington2908 Not to mention assist trophy possibilities. Mantis Lords, Grimm, or THK suddenly drop on the arena and everyone freaks out.
WHOA THE DANGANRONPA MUSIC CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD
I just found this channel but I feel like the math isn't adding up. Sure you can use probability to help predict likely future fighters, but it's no guarantee. What you are doing in this video is akin to flipping a coin heads and then saying "the math guarantees the next flip will be tails to preserve the 50-50 probability."
My analogy is a lot more simple than what you are doing to calculate probability of the next fighter, but the fallacy is the same. The probability of previous results do not ensure the probability of future results, especially for something as complex as a character roster.
Although, I did sense a health dose of sarcastic self awareness at the end of your video, so I'm assuming you already know about the problems with your math.
10% chance series will go right to the end without any further hitches.
90% it’ll implode well before then.
I’m prepared for both!
*No more fighting game characters*
Dude from Tekken: Allow me to introduce myself
Glad to see that the Knight (from Hollow Knight) isn't out of the running. (Platformer - Male - West - 2010s - New Publisher - New Series)
Edit: Actually I think the Knight may be a Neither. Not sure though.
The Knight and all other vessels are neither because they were "killed" by void in their eggs and are now void creatures, but Hornet is female so I'm still holding out hope for the Knight, Hornet, or maybe even Lace
@@Weegiest_beegi Okay thanks for the lore info. I really wish more people wanted a Hollow Knight rep in Smash. It'd work really well.
I rarely comment on videos (something I should try to change), but I felt the need to comment here because of how impressed I am with the quality of your videos. Keep it up with the good work and I am sure you'll have a great future ahead mate.
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Sakurai is going to look at this for new ideas...
Minecraft Steve and Sephiroth are already in the game :( when are we getting the next videos?
Nevermind :) i didn't know the Top 25 video was going to talk about Steve's maths :D tyvm
Minecraft Steve takes up:
the one *? Genere* (a Sandbox game),
*Both* Gender spot,
the one *Western* spot,
the one *2010s* (although public in 2009, the offical release was 2011),
a *Returning Publisher* (assuming we're saying from Microsoft and not Mojang),
and a *New Series* spot.
Oof....I think Steve might've broken this.
It's a new series, both genders (Steve and Alex), one of the question marks for Genre, and I guess if Banjo counts as Western then he does too.
However, Minecraft released in 2009. The 2000s requirement says that they must represent the 1980s as well. You might have to redo your math backseat :/
New fighter goal: Unambiguously female fighter SPECIFICALLY to spite Backseat. Let's go!
Even better would be one he locked away here.
Ghosts and Ghouls... That be an awesome addition
you fool, the rep calculations aren't a quota to be maintained, but a curve to be graphed! Mapping the changes in each category onto a graph and projecting them forward should give us a more accurate estimation of future content. It's science!
im glad you could fit min min in
Completely insane to me that this channel doesn’t have hundreds of thousands of subs yet. This channel loosely reminds me of Game Makers Tool Kit, so hopefully you get the attention that they did!
I'd love to see an old timer expansion pass where thankfully Nintendo gets permission to get Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Shantae, Heavy from TF2, and Crono from Chrono Trigger in
1. Fighter pass 2 probably won’t be the last one so they’ll probably have a chance down the line.
2. Min Min is just fighter not fighter + shooter. Even if it’s just 9% it is what it is.
But mortal kombat is like one of the biggest fighting games so wouldn’t it make sense to include scorpion like Ryu and Terry?:(
Well atleast we deconfirmed everyone who would play these characters
technically the smash bros roster represents 100% fighting game because every character in the game is representing smash bros in a way.
This guy knows no math, we obviously are gonna get ANOTHER Fire Emblem guy
Sakura Shinguji from Sega’s Sakura Wars Franchise for Smash Ultimate DLC 🌸
This king is back!
(Adding a comment to help with the algorithm or something)
That’s what I like to see!
Tbh these videos deserve a million views. They are extremely well-edited, well-researched, and very well-scripted.