How The Oakland A's Were Ruined By Bad Ownership

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  • Опубликовано: 20 апр 2023
  • The Oakland A's Are Officially Moving To Las Vegas Thanks To Decades Of Terrible Ownership. How Did This Happen? Lets Find Out.
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  • @JabroniBaseball
    @JabroniBaseball  Год назад +75

    Is John Fisher the worst owner in modern sports?

    • @davidlafleche1142
      @davidlafleche1142 Год назад +13

      The city is to blame

    • @davejohannes7694
      @davejohannes7694 Год назад +5

      Nop........ He is BRILLIANT & made the smartest move in all the MLB history.......

    • @Jman-eg9zp
      @Jman-eg9zp Год назад +9

      He is one of the worst but as another commenter said it is really the city of oaklands failure

    • @rileykazama3145
      @rileykazama3145 Год назад

      Yes

    • @chenzenzo
      @chenzenzo Год назад +1

      That honor belongs to Marc Davis.

  • @SLagonia
    @SLagonia Год назад +5

    This is far more on the government of Oakland than it is on The A's. 30 years of negotiation and Oakland won't let them do anything.
    Oakland has lost all three major sports teams in a span of five years. This isn't an A's problem, it's an Oakland problem.

    • @marvinfrederick6363
      @marvinfrederick6363 Год назад +1

      Nope it’s the A’S his a cheap owner Look at the other team he owns in San Jose Cheap Same thing his doing with the A’s

    • @SLagonia
      @SLagonia Год назад

      @@marvinfrederick6363 Look at The Raiders and Warriors. He doesn't own them.
      The City of Oakland is chasing these teams away.

  • @IkilledColMustard
    @IkilledColMustard Год назад +26

    This issue between the A’s and the city of Oakland has been going on for over 20 years. The city refuse to modernize the Coliseum or at least maintain it.

    • @P31B
      @P31B Год назад +3

      Taking out a loan for Mt Davis, to only have the Oakland Raiders leave 20 years later with the debt largely still outstanding didn’t help the city’s trust.

    • @brycelynds3768
      @brycelynds3768 Год назад +6

      So it’s the cities responsibility to take care of something that’s not technically the cities property? A’s own half the stadium too, city footed the bill for Mt.Davis. Only for the raiders to leave.

    • @marvinfrederick6363
      @marvinfrederick6363 Год назад +1

      Nope that’s the owner Doing it

  • @BillyRicker92
    @BillyRicker92 Год назад +7

    As an A’s fan, I’m not surprised by this, Oakland is crumbling and now after losing The Raiders and Warriors and will likely lose The A’s, the politicians are to blame for this debacle.

    • @toonces4x
      @toonces4x Год назад +1

      and not the greedy owner who wanted his stadium paid for, just like the Raiders.

    • @marvinfrederick6363
      @marvinfrederick6363 Год назад +1

      Nope the owner for a fact dream on

  • @Matt_Schrlau9
    @Matt_Schrlau9 Год назад +26

    Majority of the problem though is with the city and it’s officials this is 3 time this has happened since 2015 the last 2 mayors have been a joke and let this happened and didn’t give any of these teams a decent proposal

    • @togoandmoss
      @togoandmoss Год назад

      it is in California ...... nothing works there!

    • @kenamaro3942
      @kenamaro3942 Год назад +2

      One team had to move twice and the failed city leadership STILL didn't get the message.

    • @Matt_Schrlau9
      @Matt_Schrlau9 Год назад +2

      @@kenamaro3942 honestly a really lengthy renovation to the coliseum probably would have kept the A’s for another 10 years and bought the city some time and they didn’t even consider that which is more mind boggling

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway Год назад

      No taxpayer wants to pay for a stadium when the owners and league have the money, and then the team turns around and over charges on parking, tickets, beer and food.

    • @Matt_Schrlau9
      @Matt_Schrlau9 Год назад

      @@DMalltheway I get that but if the A’s weren’t going to be owners of the stadium then what do you want them to do if the county and state are owners of the stadium the county/city/state has to foot the majority of the stadium cost and in reality the cost is spread out over a period of time and won’t have major tax impacts and look at the other stuff taxpayers have to fund that they don’t want to

  • @wckdaintgood
    @wckdaintgood Год назад +35

    Bruh this city of Oakland ran out three professional sports teams can’t really blame the owner if they’ve been trying to build another stadium since the 90s 😂

    • @CharoletteKirschbaum
      @CharoletteKirschbaum Год назад +5

      You are so absolutely right. Blame the fans and city of Oakland

    • @saucyhitokage533
      @saucyhitokage533 Год назад +3

      @@CharoletteKirschbaum Its honestly incredible how people keep spewing this nonsense when you dont seem to realize what they were asking for in the new stadium. Not to mention uh, THE FACT OAKLAND WAS WILLING TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY THAN WHAT THEYD GET IN VEGAS!??!?!

    • @jodi183
      @jodi183 11 месяцев назад

      @@saucyhitokage533 Yep. Not to mention that at one point, the plan had a clause where us Oakland residents would have had to PAY in taxes a large portion of the new stadium construction. Talk about highway robbery! John Fisher is scum.

    • @5rings16
      @5rings16 Месяц назад

      But you need more money in Cali.

    • @Eastbayfitteds_
      @Eastbayfitteds_ Месяц назад +1

      Do your research on John fisher and his ownership your not from the Bay so you wouldn’t understand 🤷🏽‍♂️💯💯

  • @EatMorePizzaNow
    @EatMorePizzaNow Год назад +6

    Ownership knew what they were doing. It was planned to move out of Oakland. Change my mind.

    • @cam-xt9uh
      @cam-xt9uh 11 месяцев назад

      No one can.

    • @5rings16
      @5rings16 Месяц назад

      Owners rule and they get what they want! Fans don't own the team and the As fans aren't loyal.

  • @maxstone6953
    @maxstone6953 Год назад +3

    Agreed , but the once beautiful city of Oakland has become a dystopian landscape of crime and poverty. With tourism non existent and a corrupt political regime. Expecting to keep a franchise of any sort becomes an unwinnable war. Sad.

  • @Sv_vic
    @Sv_vic 7 месяцев назад +2

    funding gap was about 84 million a few months ago for the whole 8 billion dollar project , with the city of Oakland receiving about 100 million in funding from the state . The A's pulled out just before . If they wanted a stadium , it would have been built already .

    • @5rings16
      @5rings16 Месяц назад

      No, the Giants territorial rights had something to do with this too.

  • @robdlc438
    @robdlc438 Год назад +2

    This is why they used to be called the AAA’s. A very applicable slang term.

  • @ClassicJukeboxBand
    @ClassicJukeboxBand Год назад +8

    If Fisher recognized the A's can't be profitable in Oakland, and moves the A's to Vegas, where the franchise triples in value, how is that being a bad owner?

    • @corneilusmcgillicuddy
      @corneilusmcgillicuddy Год назад +1

      Because he's purposely not getting and retaining the talent for the A's to be successful in Oakland.

    • @Bk6346
      @Bk6346 Год назад +1

      The Oakland A’s average per season attendance from 2000-2019 was ….. 1.79 million and they had 5 seasons of over 2 million

    • @rlroark2457
      @rlroark2457 11 месяцев назад +3

      If I'm not mistaken, the team will increase in value with the move to Vegas but, they won't own the land.
      If they stay in Oakland , Fisher will own the real estate of the ballpark as well as it surroundings. BAY Area real estate is much more valuable than Vegas real estate, so in the long run, he'll be losing money by going to Vegas.

    • @arizonawildcat3821
      @arizonawildcat3821 Месяц назад

      A good owner's goal isn't to increase profits my any means necessary, that is not how the entertainment industry works. You make money from providing a good product and developing a solid fanbase. The move to Vegas is only a band aid on the issue.

    • @ClassicJukeboxBand
      @ClassicJukeboxBand Месяц назад

      @@arizonawildcat3821 I would say it's impossible to create a loyal fan base in Oakland because the area the A's play in is so rampant with crime in a bad part of Oakland.

  • @curtisdavis8594
    @curtisdavis8594 Год назад +13

    You're spot on a different "Money Ball".. I'm sad to see the team leave Oakland... The ticket prices are cheaper than SF Giants .. And I could tell the loyal fans at Oakland ..which needs the "Economic Engine"... The architecture firm planned images of the new bay stadium looked Fantastic....... Sad to see The failed Grants... Appreaciate your insights

    • @JabroniBaseball
      @JabroniBaseball  Год назад +3

      Agreed. Definitely sad to see the A's leave Oakland. The proposed stadium idea did look pretty amazing. Maybe an expansion team will come back to Oakland one day. Thanks for stopping by!

  • @howardevans6170
    @howardevans6170 2 месяца назад +1

    Sounds like most wealthy business owners in America. Self serving interests at the cost of the employees and customers. What a winner Fisher is.

  • @kenamaro3942
    @kenamaro3942 Год назад +6

    Terrible owner yes for the A's...matched only by failed city leadership who chased out three championship teams in a decade. People from all over the greater bay area now have zero reason to go to Oakland and spend a single penny there. That stream has ended.

    • @Ginger30161
      @Ginger30161 Год назад +3

      People should avoid the East Bay altogether just to avoid getting shot on the freeway.

    • @kenamaro3942
      @kenamaro3942 Год назад +1

      @@Ginger30161 couldn't agree more, how come sanctuary cities can't or won't provide sanctuary for its own hard working, tax paying citizens?? Knock down the coliseum and make a mega tent city/needle exchange ...a huge free for all. Lots of fun there.

    • @Ginger30161
      @Ginger30161 Год назад +1

      @@kenamaro3942 No, gotta keep the coliseum. there are bathrooms and showers for the homeless.

    • @ronclark9724
      @ronclark9724 Год назад +1

      @@Ginger30161 Do they actually work?

    • @Ginger30161
      @Ginger30161 Год назад +1

      @@ronclark9724 does it matter?

  • @brianunderdahl7974
    @brianunderdahl7974 8 месяцев назад +1

    I'm just thankful that up here in Minnesota we were able to resolve any new Arena new stadium issues with all our professional teams but as of right now Target Center of the NBA's Timberwolves is the oldest arena in the NBA so we need to keep an eye on the Timberwolves ownership to see if they will stick around and help with financing for a new Arena and Minneapolis or if they're going to pull off what Norm Green did after buying out his other partners and was the owner of the North Stars back in the early 1990s and after that they became the Dallas Stars and then we had to go through a process to bring back the National Hockey League and now we have the Minnesota Wild and Xcel Energy Center in St Paul

  • @richardforscutt1063
    @richardforscutt1063 4 месяца назад +1

    The City of Oakland has lost three teams in five years. The Coliseum is outdated and the City focused on how much money they could get from the feds to build Howard Terminal. If the A's go up in value, then it will have been worth it for the owner. Oakland will have to decide if they want to rebuild the Coliseum for another professional baseball team or whether they will have low cost housing. The crime is out of control and that needs to be fixed before getting another baseball team.

  • @joanned8172
    @joanned8172 Год назад +50

    The Oakland owners are terrible and cheap yes, but they were willing to pay for the new stadium themselves, however the city of Oakland still couldn't get out of its own bureaucratic and corrupt way to finalize it. This has been an issue long before the current A's owners, this is a city who lost themselves 2 professional teams before the A's as well due to their inaction. There is no debate the coliseum is the worst venue in baseball and was easily the worst in the NFL and it has been so for decades but the city choose to do nothing, in fact they borrowed money against the coliseum so they actually still owe money on it.

    • @ronclark9724
      @ronclark9724 Год назад +3

      Don't forget Oakland also lost the NHL's Golden Seals a long time ago, probably before you were born... Oakland has LOST four major league teams...

    • @davidlafleche1142
      @davidlafleche1142 Год назад +3

      @@ronclark9724 In all fairness, the Seals were dirt poor and they never had a chance to compete.

    • @CharoletteKirschbaum
      @CharoletteKirschbaum Год назад +3

      Well now Oakland is homeless to pro sports

    • @joevignolor4u949
      @joevignolor4u949 Год назад

      So now Oakland will still have the dumpy old Coliseum but no sports teams. That doesn't seem to make much sense. Why not build two new stadiums for the Raiders and A's to keep them in Oakland and get rid of the Coliseum instead?

    • @homelessjesse9453
      @homelessjesse9453 Год назад +4

      To be fair, Al Davis deserves a lot of the blame for what happened.

  • @jordanking6939
    @jordanking6939 Год назад +19

    City of Oakland had opportunities to keep 3 professional teams and blew it. I have been to Vegas 3 dozen times and it's more than a tourist city. People are mad at the ownership, but they had to make a move. In an era of opulence, how can you win in a multi-purpose stadium?

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Год назад

      It's actually four: Oakland lost the Seals NHL franchise to Cleveland.

  • @USC9210
    @USC9210 11 месяцев назад +1

    Joe Lacob always wanted the Warriors in SF. The move to SF was a prestige/ego real estate play on his part. Stanford MBAs do those kind of things.

  • @cyndidzurisin5319
    @cyndidzurisin5319 Год назад

    Omg what tv show was that at 0:51 ???

  • @jerrywebb2289
    @jerrywebb2289 Год назад +1

    Oakland was NEVER behind the A's. Even in the 70's when they won 3 world titles. the attendance was bad, the city government did not help and the Raiders were the only team that was really promoted. I was and am an A's fan and lived through the the eara.

  • @timothymoroney9100
    @timothymoroney9100 Год назад +3

    There was never an alternate timeline in which Oakland keeps the Athletics past 2030.
    This tango had two dancers. First, you have a cheap owner. The only owner more cheap was the Expo murderer, Jeff Loria, who also killed the Marlins. Second is the city of Oakland. Let’s not kid ourselves. The city is slow to act…until after the last minute. The Warriors and Raiders left Oakland in recent years, after asking for a new stadium. Even after looking elsewhere for an opportunity (Warriors in San Jose…Raiders in LA(where they were previously), the city, which is incompetently run, did nothing. Only when the Raiders had already announced their move to Las Vegas, did the city make a proposal. The city lost 3 professional sport teams since 2019…4 overall, if you include the Golden Seals of the NHL.
    Bad owner with poor city is always a recipe for disaster and relocation.
    I feel bad for the Athletics fans of Bay Area, who don’t deserve it.

    • @corneilusmcgillicuddy
      @corneilusmcgillicuddy Год назад

      I agree with that you're saying but the fans, (or rather the lack thereof l,) play a major part into this too.
      Yes, John Fisher is a piece of shit. Yes the Colisuem is a fucked up shitty venue. Yes the City of Oakland is incompetent and gas shown that they really didn't want my beloved Athletics in the city. However, with all those things coming into play I would be remiss not to mention the shitty fucked up fairweather "fans," the A's has.
      Due to the fact the A's were immediately successful and up until 20 years ago they've always fielded competitive teams you would think that they would have developed a loyal, devoted, and dedicated fan base. The fucking Giants, Phillies, and Cubs did and those two teams spent most of their history mired in mediocrity or losing, but the A's didn't. When you go from selling out the Coliseum in the early aughts to averaging 9,000 a game 20 years later tells me that my beloved Athletics never really had a fan base in the Bay.

  • @MikeSuth4040
    @MikeSuth4040 Год назад +1

    They’ve been trying to build a stadium since the mid-90s. Oakland isn’t a business friendly city. They wanted the A’s to pay for infrastructure and affordable housing near the new stadium costing 8 billion dollars. The stadium in Las Vegas is costing 1 billion dollars.

    • @nacho9482
      @nacho9482 Год назад

      Same thing happen to us in montreal, its really sad 😢

  • @morthedgebuckle227
    @morthedgebuckle227 4 месяца назад +1

    Always thought the Coliseum was a really pretty stadium. Before Mount Davis.

  • @nickb3751
    @nickb3751 Год назад +18

    Your take is totally wrong. I live in Oakland and our city council is 95% responsible for the A’s departure. The A’s spent over 100 million dollars trying to get a ballpark built. The city council balked at improving the infrastructure around the sight accommodate the park and put crazy affordable housing demands on the development. The city let a 19 billion dollar investment walk away. The ownership sucks but this is the cities failure.

    • @JabroniBaseball
      @JabroniBaseball  Год назад +5

      The city is absolutely to blame but only partially. It’s hard to sell a new stadium and development area when there’s no proof of concept people will show up to it. Ownership has been tanking this team for decades, never investing in this team, and they want to be rewarded with new ballpark and surrounding entertainment area? Its a whole different story if we’re talking about a winning team that regularly has 20k plus attendance per game.

    • @loC2ol
      @loC2ol Год назад +2

      @@JabroniBaseball yeah but hard to get 20k to show when they play in a trash heap. Can’t blame the fans for not wanting to go since like mid 2000’s, that’s how crappy and outdated the coliseum is. It’s just a circle really. You can put blame anywhere but it’s all connected. Play is not good so why get a new stadium leads to terrible old stadium No one goes to games leads to no money put into the team because no one goes to games because terrible play on the field so why get a good stadium. It’s like a sad cyclical chain.

    • @IkilledColMustard
      @IkilledColMustard Год назад

      @@JabroniBaseball the city refuse to modernize the Coliseum or at least maintain it. They know all the problems that arena has, they know about the sewage leaks, the broken seats, out of order restrooms.

    • @markblair5380
      @markblair5380 Год назад

      @@JabroniBaseball I live in the Greater Bay Area and the problem is I'd rather fly to see them in Las Vegas in a nice stadium than go to see them in the Coliseum. That experience just isn't worth the trip for me anymore... I only catch the A's live when they play across the Bay.

    • @nickb3751
      @nickb3751 Год назад +1

      @@JabroniBaseball the big thing here is that the team was going to pay for the entire ballpark and redevelop the waterfront. To let a 19 billion dollar investment walk from your city is a travesty. Who cares if they win when they’re willing to spend that kind of money. I’m an Oakland resident but I’m not an A’s fan. Our city leadership is totally incompetent.

  • @coronaflo
    @coronaflo Год назад +1

    The A's could have built a new stadium in San Jose and stayed in the Bay Area but were cock blocked by the SF Giants who claimed territory rights.

  • @RobertRatliff
    @RobertRatliff Год назад +1

    Why would you build a MLB stadium in Oakland? Howard Terminal is a financial disaster.

  • @ParamoreFAV3
    @ParamoreFAV3 Год назад

    That note was like breaking up with someone thru text

  • @erich84502ify
    @erich84502ify Год назад +2

    One thing that owners and managers did was strip it down and gut the roster after 2022

    • @ronclark9724
      @ronclark9724 Год назад

      Unfortunately fair weather fans complain about the owners... I put all of the blame on the non functioning city government... They had decades to build a new stadium, but FAILED to do so...

  • @matreyles
    @matreyles Год назад +1

    This situation is similar to which comes first. The chicken or the egg.

  • @danielgarcia9369
    @danielgarcia9369 Год назад +1

    To be fair, the Oakland fans abandoned the Athletics long time ago, so now they are reacting to the move out of Oakland

  • @trollheyman2703
    @trollheyman2703 Год назад

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. fans outside of the bay area and casuals keep blaming Oakland, but it's all Fisher's fault.

  • @WiggleBabies
    @WiggleBabies 11 месяцев назад

    There was not 16 proposals with the city. There were possible talks with the Coliseum land and Uptown, but nothing official. A's didn't finally propose any real plan until 2017 with Laney and it died with them doing zero work. 2018 they settled on Howard Terminal and the city did everything for them. Everything else before Oakland was all different cities like Fremont and SJ.

  • @brya6270
    @brya6270 Год назад +1

    Life like stadiums are a funny thing. Some people go to a game and have a great time. Others go and are miserable and complain about the experience. It all boils down to expectations. The most brutal thing I ever experienced was the raider fan base especially if you were there to take in a game and rooted for the opposing team. Even with that factored in, I saw my team spank the raiders 3 years and the experience was awesome. The restrooms were the most vile disgusting thing I can recall as far as infrastructure. Never saw any moths or feral cats.
    When going to the As games as a kid through to adult it was great. Never forget seeing the walking triple (rickey Henderson) or the swinging As during their heyday and visiting as part of little league for the tickets we sold. Good times. Wish the city would have found a way to work something out for the stadium (with the different owners over the years) which we all know has been going on for decades. From a business side though, oakland has turned into a cesspool and visiting anything there can be dicey. Oh well thanks for the memories Rickey Henderson, vida blue, sal bando, joe rudi, reggie jackson, dennis eckersley amongst others.

  • @popsports05
    @popsports05 Год назад +1

    I feel it’s the city of Oakland’s fault. They lost the raiders twice the warriors and now they will lose the A’s. Both the Raiders and the A’s were trying for a long time to get a new stadium but kept failing. I figured that once the Raiders and Warriors left they would do what they can to keep the A’s.

  • @donaldburns4462
    @donaldburns4462 Год назад +1

    WE NEED A NEW OWNER!!! Willing to invest in good players instead of selling them. If not this team will continue to be a farm team for the rest of the league. It is autrocious how many oakland A's players are now with other teams including the head coach

  • @cupchamp5
    @cupchamp5 Год назад

    The A's have been demanding a new stadium for decades and the city of Oakland won't do it. They finally said fuck you Oakland we're moving

  • @scottmcdonald3345
    @scottmcdonald3345 Год назад

    Absolutely, the best analogy of the A’s and Ebenezer Scrooge Fisher. He is a despicable owner.

  • @billyrichards8834
    @billyrichards8834 Год назад

    Oaklands DOWNFALL began when the Raiders cameback to Oakland a 2nd time!
    But when Fischer took over the A's, that was the signing of the Death Warrant.

  • @rickylopez8692
    @rickylopez8692 Год назад

    I blame the city. How tf are they gonna be in talks for decades upon decades, and nothing come out of that? Oakland ran out their three teams and it’s sad.

  • @doesnotexist305
    @doesnotexist305 Год назад +1

    I understand that it’s trendy to criticize the owner of a relocating team and make them seem like the devil but this might be different. I don’t know, either Oakland got stuck with the three worst owners in sports or the city itself is the problem.

  • @georgesouthwick7000
    @georgesouthwick7000 Год назад

    It has always amazed me how if someone has enough money to buy something, it automatically makes them smart enough to run it.

  • @darrinsiberia
    @darrinsiberia Год назад

    God Bless Oakland. There is more to life than sports. Howard Cosell said it best, "In that time, I came to realize, however reluctantly, that there was an inexorable force working against revelations of truth about sports in America. That force exists in the form of an unholy alliance between the three television networks and the sports print medium. It is the fundamental purpose of both, for their own reasons, to exalt sports, to regale the games, the fights, the races, whatever, to the point where these contests are indoctrinated into the public mind as virtual religious rituals."

  • @danielbrazeau1680
    @danielbrazeau1680 Год назад +1

    Now, it’s time to bring back the Expos!!!

  • @Hiram27
    @Hiram27 Год назад +12

    I don't like the Athletics' ownership, let's be clear, but this is both the ownership and the city of Oakland. You have to blame the city of Oakland. The Warriors, Raiders, and now the Athletics have left because the city leadership either didn't understand what these teams meant to the community and local economy or they didn't care. If you were to get divorced three times in a five year period, it's probably you that's the problem.

    • @brycelynds3768
      @brycelynds3768 Год назад +1

      Warriors and Raiders both had different dreams. Lacob since he took ownership (Along with Gruber) always had the SF dream dubs fans knew it since they took over. Was gonna happen... They also just moved like 15 minutes away. Vegas for the Raiders was because there was no shot Oakland could keep both teams, a football stadium in downtown Oakland had no shot of passing, and Davis got a huge money handout from some other billionaire (Last name starts with an M I think and i'm pretty sure he's dead). Neither really marketed that they were going to stay. A's literally marketed "Rooted In Oakland"

    • @cringeandpunishment3140
      @cringeandpunishment3140 Год назад

      The city of Oakland is facing its largest deficit, the A’s refused to maintain Coliseum and destroy every single play off team that gets going. It’s definitely cheap ownerships fault

    • @Matt_Schrlau9
      @Matt_Schrlau9 Год назад

      @@cringeandpunishment3140 it’s a city/county owned stadium from my experience with it in buffalo it’s not on the team to do upkeep/renovate the stadium rather the city or county is liable

    • @essentialeugene
      @essentialeugene 8 месяцев назад

      The City of Oakland had plenty of time to keep 3 teams. Maybe when the Athletics leave, they can tear down the Coliseum and put a Costco store which will begin to bring back Oakland's economy.

  • @whowho8470
    @whowho8470 Год назад +1

    John Fisher is a business man and he's making a business decision.

  • @erich84502a
    @erich84502a Год назад

    Some in Vegas don't want them. Vegas honeymoon is almost over with the Raiders. Las Vegas is thinking; 'you're not taking advantage of Vegas are you? We have the Golden Knights. Why do we need another team from Oakland?'

  • @chriszenko3598
    @chriszenko3598 Год назад

    The Oakland politicians outsmarted themselves now they have nothing

  • @boogitybear2283
    @boogitybear2283 Год назад +1

    Have you been to Oakland? That place sucks!

  • @usfjoy
    @usfjoy Год назад

    As a kid I loved the A’s. But since the early 2000s, it’s just impossible to support them. Teams need hero’s, and the As just haven’t had any around long enough to inspire loyalty.

    • @corneilusmcgillicuddy
      @corneilusmcgillicuddy Год назад

      Despite the fact of the A's not keeping talent due to their success you would think that they would have built up enough capital to have a large loyal fan base, but they don't. The harsh reality of the situation us my beloved Athletics have a shitty fairweather fan base.

  • @andymurday4538
    @andymurday4538 Год назад +5

    This is a progressive move for the Athletics as this would turn them into title contenders once again.

    • @corneilusmcgillicuddy
      @corneilusmcgillicuddy Год назад +1

      How? The p.o.s. Fisher has demonstrated during his tenure as owner that he won't get (nor is he willing to retain,) the talent necessary to make my beloved Athletics into a winning team. Why would he suddenly change his business model with a move to Vegas?

    • @marvinfrederick6363
      @marvinfrederick6363 Год назад

      Wrong dream on

  • @RyanPoehls
    @RyanPoehls 11 месяцев назад

    I don't know. The City of Oakland and fans have played their part.

  • @emerald3331
    @emerald3331 Год назад +1

    I would be very surprised that the A's will be able to stay in Vegas very long, it's a touristy city and it probably won't be able to draw huge fans year after year.

    • @johnnypalooka
      @johnnypalooka Год назад

      It's hard to predict. Baseball has 10 times as many home games as football. So you need that consistent fan base. Casinos and travel agencies will offer free tickets for tourists but will the permanent residents support the team enough. I'm guessing ticket prices will be pretty high. The A's will have to bring in a few big free agents to bring fans in.

    • @corneilusmcgillicuddy
      @corneilusmcgillicuddy Год назад

      ​@@johnnypalooka Bringing in free agents isn't going to happen because the p.o.s. Fisher isn't doing it now.

  • @PlessisST
    @PlessisST Год назад +1

    Montreal Expos allover again. Bad stadium. No spending. Farm team for other MLB teams. Provincial/local government will not assist with new ball park.Lots of upset fans. No attendance.

  • @robertlittlefield1855
    @robertlittlefield1855 Год назад

    What you did not show was a ranking of baseball teams in terms of local revenue, which includes local broadcasts, merchandise, tickets, etc. I suspect you'd find the A's in last place. So where does the money come from for Fisher to pay big contracts. Granted, he bled the team, but I blame the City of Oakland more than ownership failings for the A's to flee to Las Vegas.

  • @danhill7889
    @danhill7889 Год назад +5

    If the city of Oakland wanted to keep Oakland, they could have made the new stadium happen sometime over the last two decades. This is 100% on the city, not on the ownership.

    • @marvinfrederick6363
      @marvinfrederick6363 Год назад

      The owner Did you see how much his worth If not your blind and death Let him Bulid it

  • @jboogie5106
    @jboogie5106 Год назад

    The reason why the A’s aren’t supported locally is because of the ownership. The reason why they don’t have a new stadium is because of both city and ownership.

    • @corneilusmcgillicuddy
      @corneilusmcgillicuddy Год назад

      Plenty of teams have had shitty ownership and were far less successful than the A's were, but they had a loyal fan base. The A's unfortunately have a shitty fan base.

  • @LamontBenton
    @LamontBenton Год назад

    This owner doomed us once they took over, also our council members and mayor's office have shown they don't care. Other mayor's have understood how important and detrimental it is for the city to retain sports teams. The supposed leadership of this city are charging taxpayers for what? Causing a client up on international Ave, redoing the streets, but not where the pot holes are. Where us the money going? Who's pockets are being lined? Truthfully These last few mayor's gave no insight and understanding of how important these sports teams are to oakland. Seems like they don't care and are into doing whatever to put the city in a desperate place of despair without nothing to dustract or help root for, or b proud of. I don't believe they are true people of oakland, people who know, care and understand the roots. NOT TURNING THIS INTO ANYTHING ABOUT RACE, BUT ALL THE AFRICAN AMERICANS MAYOR'S, UNDERSOOD THE VALUE AND CARED ABOUT THE TRADITIONS. WHAT DO WE DO, LOOK ELSEWHERE, OUTSIDE OF OAKLAND. THE CHILDREN OF OAKLAND WHO ARE AND WERE INSPIRED TO PLAY SPORTS BECAUSE OF OUR TEAMS, HAVE what now? As I was 12 years old and playing baseball inspired by homegrown players such as Dave Stewart and Ricky Henderson, right b4 our baberuth Allstars was about to start, the oakland As donated and invested in us, by putting up night lights and redoing the field, green man on 66th Ave. It was the best, I recall all players and parents thankfully and us kids were really stoked, we got to play under the lights for the first time like professionals, on a field that they redone to look like a major league field.

  • @gregusjay
    @gregusjay Год назад +1

    For whatever reason, John Fisher doesn't really care about the team .. it's not just Oakland that is affected, it's the whole east bay. . the move to Las Vegas for a franchise that plays 162 games a year and for a city with only about 600,000 might become disastrous. . sure Vegas is a nice place to let loose. . not sure if the A's will thrive there. . the Raiders have some regrets about having other teams fans rule the roost at their new home. . as Marc Davis. . Sad news for real A's fans.

    • @corneilusmcgillicuddy
      @corneilusmcgillicuddy Год назад

      Fisher views my beloved Athletics as nothing more than a hellified passive evenue stream. I support the move to Vegas because the harsh fucked up reality of the situation is my beloved Athletics doesn't have a fan base in Oakland. The A's might have a total of 15,000 fans in the Bay.
      My fear is that when the A's move and the novelty of baseball in Vegas wears off and attendance drops my beloved Athletics will become remixed version of the Ray's they'll only be averging 13K a night. Then you have factor in the the p.o.s. Fisher's business model of not keeping and getting the talent necessary to make the A's a winning team. Am I supposed to believe that when tbe A's get to Vegas he's going to "do a 180," and increase player payroll to keep the talent we already have and the free agents we need to get a ring?

  • @robertadams5107
    @robertadams5107 Год назад

    Is plenty of blame to go around the Oakland City Council didn't help much either and I believe that if the city would have helped the owner of the team I spent more for its players knowing it was going to play in a better ballpark

  • @pokemongo-up3rq
    @pokemongo-up3rq Год назад

    Oakland is a hellhole. But it didn't have to be this way. It must've been a nice place to live at one point.

  • @shanew5957
    @shanew5957 Год назад

    If they were willing to pay for a new stadium themselves and the city couldn't male that happen I'd be blaming the people you're electing more than anything.

  • @user-bt9xr1sk7i
    @user-bt9xr1sk7i Год назад +3

    Las Vegas will be good for baseball.

    • @ronclark9724
      @ronclark9724 Год назад

      Las Vegas won big time. Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

    • @willp.8120
      @willp.8120 Год назад

      I think after five years, at best, maybe only a few years, they'll have one of the lower attendances in the league, given the size of the city. I'm thinking their attendance will be similar to Kansas City or Miami.

  • @NBZW
    @NBZW Год назад

    What the hell difference does it make, the A’s rate no better than a farm team. Good riddance.

  • @thomaspeterson7338
    @thomaspeterson7338 Год назад

    If Oakland had heart they would DEMAND they keep their name and colors. Take up some pride OAKLAND

  • @craigcavaliere6744
    @craigcavaliere6744 Год назад +1

    This is life imitating art (Major League).

  • @rubenvasquez7148
    @rubenvasquez7148 11 месяцев назад +1

    There is a lot of finger pointing going on. It's very simple, this ownership and the previous A's ownership requested help from the local and state governments for decades (not just the past couple of years). Clark County and the State of Nevada did in 8 weeks what those California government entities couldn't do in more than 20 years. Everyone needs to stop bashing the wrong people.
    It's not the fans, it’s not the Commissioner, it's not the current A’s ownership, it wasn't the previous A’s ownership, it is not even the current City of Oakland administration; it is Alameda County, the previous City of Oakland administrations and the State of California. The Warriors, Raiders and now A's have one thing in common, they were all dealing with the same governmental agencies to improve their facilities, but it didn't happen for decades. Could all three major league franchises be wrong, and the City of Oakland, the County of Alameda & the State of California be right in playing "hard ball" with each other? Not likely.
    Fisher invested more the $100 Mil. in the research for development, in good faith, to settling at the Howard Terminal site, but the clock just kept on ticking. By the time the new Mayor took office, it was already too late, the A's had already privately thrown in the towel in California, because of too many setbacks and wasted time in the past 8 years. MLB was going to stop their revenue sharing if they didn't have a solid site in place by the end of this year, so the quick approvals that came from the progressive State of Nevada (far less RED tape) proved to be the answer.
    Don't fall for the hype of who’s at fault, place blame where the blame should be. Again, the previous administrations for The City of Oakland, the County of Alameda and the State of California should learn from a quote, from the late, great Vin Scully, who would say during his broadcast on a day the Dodgers were committing a bunch of errors on the field, "We Met The Enemy, And The Enemy Is Us".

    • @Matterz25
      @Matterz25 Месяц назад

      John Fisher is to blame stop acting like he’s a saint

  • @bishopaz
    @bishopaz Год назад

    Maybe not.

  • @jeffp7073
    @jeffp7073 Год назад

    Also they have a home in California. That's just bad luck and no ownerships fault.

  • @jmarx_live
    @jmarx_live Год назад

    Oakland government shares the blame along with John Fisher.

  • @conradhauser17
    @conradhauser17 Год назад

    Frakes nails it!!

  • @bestoutwest9962
    @bestoutwest9962 Год назад

    Who’s worse, Fisher or Spanos?

  • @homelessjesse9453
    @homelessjesse9453 Год назад

    The A's ownership has been cheap for over 30 years now. Can't completely blame Oakland. Also, I hate Moneyball.

  • @swissbeats2k
    @swissbeats2k Год назад

    The plot of the film Major League being played out.

  • @murrieta49
    @murrieta49 Год назад

    They deserve to dissolve for ruining baseball with money ball

  • @LamontBenton
    @LamontBenton Год назад

    Just looking at the owners tell it, they don't have that honest go get em look. Some sort if sit back, scam it , fake it till u make it look. Some sor of we bought for this price, even though they have done nothing,looking to squeeze as much money out of the team as possible

  • @737DRVER
    @737DRVER Год назад

    Question....where are all these A's fans? Or should I say where were they? Because they sure aren't at the games? It's a mess and it's not entirely the owners fault.

  • @RobertRatliff
    @RobertRatliff Год назад

    Actually, it is Oakland to blame.

  • @itinerantpatriot1196
    @itinerantpatriot1196 Год назад

    I'm not an Oakland fan but maybe if everyone leaves all the time the problem ain't with the owners. Just sayin. Then again, the A's have a long storied history of ripping great teams apart. I hated the A's of the early 70s because Reggie, Catfish, Sal, Rollie, and the rest of that dysfunctional bunch beat my team on a regular basis. So I laughed my ass off when Charlie Finley had the fire-sale that broke that bunch apart. Since then, I guess I've been neutral on them. Anyway, good luck Oakland. Frisco isn't that far a drive I hear.

  • @gflight295
    @gflight295 Год назад

    The A's were willing to pay for the new stadium themselves. The notion the owner was cheap in the past...was the past. They tried to build a stadium but the city due to politics turned down the offer. The end.

    • @Matterz25
      @Matterz25 Месяц назад

      John Fisher never cared about this team or the fans. Ever.

  • @bobbowie9350
    @bobbowie9350 Год назад

    A's should have changed their name SF A's of Oakland, then just dump "of Oakland" later. Just having SF in their name is probably worth millions...

  • @alexm2930
    @alexm2930 Год назад

    A's should have been able to move to San Jose.

  • @tomdupske7642
    @tomdupske7642 Год назад

    Why does he need them ??? . Oakland should re-name the coliseum until they leave the A's at A-hole stadium 😮❤😂 till there new stadium is ready

  • @spacemansports4129
    @spacemansports4129 Месяц назад

    In reality both the City Of Oakland is to blame and bad ownership

  • @ronniebishop2496
    @ronniebishop2496 Год назад

    All good things come to an end and new things start, the As will be great in Vegas,”

  • @bullwinkle2380
    @bullwinkle2380 Год назад

    Is it true that Raiders owner Mark Davis is having a falling down fit over the Las Vegas A's??????????

  • @thomasbeltran5417
    @thomasbeltran5417 Год назад +1

    Wait a minute the A’s have just bought land. MLB still has to vote for relocation hard for me to believe they will let them move what needs to happen that horrible ownership needs to sell that’s it. Just a tired fan⚾️❤️

    • @superman31172
      @superman31172 Год назад +2

      They could sneak out of town just like the Baltimore Colts did in 1983

  • @joevignolor4u949
    @joevignolor4u949 Год назад

    So now Oakland will still have the dumpy old Coliseum but no sports teams. That doesn't seem to make much sense. Why not build two new stadiums for the Raiders and A's to keep them in Oakland and get rid of the Coliseum instead?

  • @roypavao7498
    @roypavao7498 Год назад

    John Fisher is not the worst owner in modern day sports!
    There are many many worst than him.

  • @bullwinkle2380
    @bullwinkle2380 Год назад

    Las Vegas A's??? But what if the water runs dry??????????

  • @jeffmeredith2100
    @jeffmeredith2100 5 месяцев назад +1

    Norm green

  • @loualiberti4781
    @loualiberti4781 Год назад

    It’s not the owners. Oakland is a dump. How many teams have left Oakland? How many teams are coming to Oakland?

  • @sugarbear522
    @sugarbear522 Год назад

    As a baseball fan in general (Go go White SOX!), I feel very sorry for the city of Oakland.
    They lost the Raiders in 2020 to Vegas, the Golden State Warriors two years ago to San Francisco, and now they are about to lose the Athletics (again to Vegas). I hope after all this has blown over Oaktown gets another chance with an MLB expansion team.

    • @markblair5380
      @markblair5380 Год назад

      Hard to see MLB taking the risk on needing to deal with Oakland ever again. If there is ever another Bay Area MLB team, I'd think San Jose is more likely.

    • @johnnypalooka
      @johnnypalooka Год назад +1

      As a fan in San Diego, once a team leaves it poisons the league against you. NBA never considered us for expansion after Donald Sterling took the Clippers to his hometown in LA. NFL will not return either. There's no stadium to play in anymore.

    • @chriszenko3598
      @chriszenko3598 Год назад +1

      They also lost their NHL team the Oakland Seals

    • @josephrocco2954
      @josephrocco2954 Год назад

      Oakland has zero chance of an expansion team.

  • @gusbreal
    @gusbreal 10 месяцев назад

    Going back to Charlie Finley they don't keep any of their stars.

  • @sa8nb
    @sa8nb Год назад

    No its the owner fisher he has enouigh money to go to any ciry in the bay area elsewhere besuudes oakland.

  • @paulmartin7334
    @paulmartin7334 Год назад

    The City’s fault

  • @captainharris8980
    @captainharris8980 Год назад

    I did not know that Moneyball was their brain child. It serves them right for not servicing the fans. I remember the A's from the days of Jackson and Billy Ball, and they've never been hot contenders save for once or twice. They want to leave? Fine by me. Good riddance.

  • @danlivni2097
    @danlivni2097 Год назад

    Here's the big question. Will John J Fisher now spend money in Las Vegas on the baseball team.

  • @LamontBenton
    @LamontBenton Год назад

    Hate to say it but this is the city of oakland, whatever race u are, u should want to support the city that has supported you. So there were proposed sites near China Town, but opposed. So China town comes together to say no because to close to certain businesses. When do they come together to support anything larger than self, never, but they want the city to support specific things pertaining to their race. This is what I mean, the city doesn't support us, we support the city to help add to, not take from. What if other citizens came together and said ahh, we don't want your individual stores nail shops, hair products in our area or neighborhood, we feel exploited and that's the only time u quote un quote want to tolerate or interact with our community, it's obvious, especially the Way u watch us like a hawk." Hurry up and buy ", si to speak. It goes deeper, once these teams are gone, that means alot of lost jobs, even alot of people go to the games to recycle. Maybe things are giving bad in your life, and in the city, do people understand if your team in your city is doing well, then that becomes a crutch of hope people latch onto. Without that money generated from the teams, now the only, needing and not having that money, will ticket more, start doing all the petty things to suffice for the lost. Just wait and see. Just remember how important that world series title was for oakland during the Los prieto earthquake

  • @ScottRossProductions
    @ScottRossProductions Год назад

    kinda makes you miss ol' chuck?