The A's Are Moving To Las Vegas: How Oakland Lost Their Last Team
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2023
- After 3 decades of trying to leave the Coliseum, the Oakland Athletics have made it official that they are moving to Las Vegas. Despite attempts in San Jose, Fremont, and at the Coliseum site, lack of public financing and government red tape has made the A's staying in Oakland near impossible after multiple tries for a new stadium. David Kaval and John Fisher began meeting secretly with Nevada officials about a potential relocation, and considering the A's don't have the capital to build a stadium themselves, it was clear what was the best move. In this video we'll take a look at the history of a team that seemingly has never had a permanent home, their longstanding second-class status, and the full timeline of their new stadium and relocation drama.
The A's Are Moving To Las Vegas: Everything We Know So Far
Here's the short version: Vegas offered $380,000,000 cash to the worst owner in MLB. Oakland did not, and will not.
Ownership presented a greedy Howard Terminal proposal from the very beginning. A $12b package that exploited prime real estate and expected the city to foot the bill for major infrastructure costs. Ownership knew they always had Vegas in their back pocket as a bargaining chip threatening the move.
Why I agree you have to admit this was pushed by Mayor Schaaf while the City Council was only so- so about it. The Port unions were ABSOLUTELY against it. You can't just build a stadium where ever you want. The government has to give you premission. And at the time, the City of Oakland didn't even have control of HT. That had to be wrestled from the Port Authority. That, and years of litigation and studies followed by Oakland looking under every rock for free (public) money from the Feds and State sank the project. They never had the amount they needed and the clock ran out.
The deal was done if the As wanted it. They didn't want it no matter what
@@duderdude4831yup. Objectively, it was a done deal. Still available actually.
Howard Terminal is no more so now it's time for the a's to move to las vegas.
@@duderdude4831 The city of Oakland was still SHORT on the funds to support the infrastructure at Howard Terminal. While someone can build a huge building for several thousand condos and offices, if the city's water and sewer mains won't support the development, well, there won't be a development... Developers don't. rebuild the city's mains, cities do, that is if the city desires the developments tax revenues in the future... Consider the city's infrastructure costs as a investment for future revenues... Now the city may have saved on the costs, they will not get any future revenues either. Furthermore, the city owns a Coliseum without any tenant. I wonder how long the Coliseum will survive without a tenant as the city won't maintain it without a tenant...
I wish the Raiders got their own stadium when they went back to Oakland.
5:29 The Brewers were in Seattle when they were founded as the Pilots. And moved to Milwaukee the following year
R.I.P Oakland sports 1960-2023
And NOW, ON to BETTER pastures. LONG OVER-DUE!
Okaland Sports really die in 1981 when the Raiders first left the city
@@coreylevine8095The A’s still ended up winning in 1989 though even though that was their last title
I'm an A's fan that lives in Northern Nevada and I don't want them to move. I'm pissed at Oakland for fing the team around. A lot of people told me you're lucky because you get to more games. No I don't. Use your maps app and see how far it is from Gardnerville, NV to Oakland. Then see how far it is from Gardnerville to where the A's new park is going to be. It's a 3.5 hour drive for me to go see them to play in Oakland. It's a 7 hour 15 minute drive to see them play at their new park in Las Vegas. MLB already said they would waive the location fee.
Ya but now you dont have to go through oakland/a 3rd world country/giant shit hole. In and out burger in oakland closed because of all the thefts happing in and outside the restaurant. Ppl would literally rob multiple ppl waiting for their food in the drive thru. Cali is going to s**t.
I think it makes complete sense for Vegas to get as many sporting events as possible. Younger people are not interested in gambling or even drinking as much. They are interested in sports betting and weed. Two things Las Vegas can provide. Having professional teams makes it a fun destination to see your favorite team play and to enjoy some of the newer upcoming non- gambling attractions
Naw
@@BiggaNigga69 cwlnc
You mean smoking cbd? 😂
And Vegas is also the home of the UFC and boxing ppvs.
You said that young people are NOT into gambling, but then you turned around and said they're into sport bettings. In reality sport betting is gambling.
Being an A's fan all my life its sad to see them leave oakland. But thanks for the memories
they aing going to vegas
Speaking of the Oakland A's, next year will be their last day of playing in Oakland and now they're moving to Las Vegas.
@@marioscardina-hs7ys nope.
You can still be a fan even if there in Vegas
@@marioscardina-hs7ys honestly I think this year is their last year in Oakland
I am an A's fan. If Fisher wanted to stay in Oakland, the team would be there. But he, Manfred, and MLB want a team in Las Vegas-period. No offer Oakland would put forth would have been acceptable.
I doubt The A's will work in Vegas. Fisher is absurdly cheap and did his best to poison the well in Oakland. You have to make a splash like signing Ohtani and building around him. Fisher will never do that.
The Raiders crowds are majority visiting fans. Vegas did not want The Raiders and the local populace does not want The A's.
The reason The Golden Knights have succeeded is that they are an expansion team founded in Las Vegas. It is *their team* Not from anywhere else.
The A's will thrive in Las Vegas, while Oakland continues to turn into a 3rd world violent jungle.
For 14 YEARS the A's tried to stay in OAKLAND, but shabby CITY politics kept that from happening.
I agree, ONLY IN PART on the success in fan base by the Vegas Knights. They ARE an expansion team, but they've also been VERY SUCCESSFUL. This is their 2nd Stanley Cup appearance in SIX years. So their success on the ice has a lot to do with it. But if I lived in Vegas. I would ALSO want an expansion team, NOT a troubled --unsuccessful, re-located team.
@@mikeblevins4277 you have to be the dumbest person on earth to think a relocation will make the team good, but you might be part of the 49th ranked education system they got down there in Nevada🤣🤣🤡
@@Fuckhippies The previous one III
There are only three MLB teams that have never issued a 100 million dollar contact. The A's, the White Sox, and the KC Royals. Yet, there is only ONE team that has never even had a 100 million dollar payroll, and that's the Oakland Athletics. The owner doesn't invest in the team, and fans are sick of a team getting gutted each year. The blame falls squarely on the ownership, and if the A's move to Vegas, Fisher will either sell the team for more profit or continue to fall back to the same routine of spending nothing and collecting revenue sharing in the now 40th TV market (Vegas). Watch.
The city of Oakland needs the same blame for losing all those teams. Ignoring team demands that brings a shit ton of revenue and history will almost lead to relocation.
That idiot mayor fucked around and found it. Considering what a shithole Oakland is, she should have been begging them to stay.
@@BiggaNigga69 cwlnc
Oakland lost the golden state warriors,Raiders and now the A's.
It's Oakland. There's only so much a city like Oakland can do. It's not like Oakland is Los Angeles or San Francisco. Oakland can't provide that kind of capital. Oakland is mostly a blue collar city. It's not a tourist destination. I've never seen anyone say "ooooh I can't wait to go and visit Oakland." These moves are about money. Oakland just got out bid.
Oakland is in no financial position to provide public subsidies for billion dollar sports clubs.
The only thing wrong with the idea of the A's moving to Las Vegas NV is that they had to start tearing down a Hotel amd casino instead of buying some empty property which there is all along Las Vegas Blvd
The A's spent 14 YEARS trying to get a NEW stadium to stay in OAKLAND, and Oakland POLITICS kept that from happening. So NOW, they're leaving.
No, they asked for the moon and stars, then the second they could leave they asked for a smaller stadium 9n less land that cost less money with STATE aid instead of CITY aid, shouldn't take a degree in finance to understand one of those entities has a larger budget,and that's the one he asked for less public money. Oakland was working in a sight and securing public funds for the stadium and infrastructure for a site at Howard Terminal for a stadium of a similar size to Vegas. It's on ownership to make give stadium plans for approval for it and funding from the city/state, not the other way around, and he purposely chose to ask for so much that they couldn't say yes.
Way before that, previous owners tried
It's been longer than that, they have been since the 90s. Way before Fisher was the owner.
@@graysonsewell3060 looks like u have some explaining to do
Oakland politics REFUSED to give up Howard Terminal without practically having to give HALF ownership of the A's to the city. The CITY was demanding EVERYTHING! And the A's weren't willing to be thrown to the dogs.
Remarkable how long history has been repeating its self with my Oakland A"s. Dating back to A's selling players from KC to Yankees, one of those being Roger Maris. Then the multiple ownership changes and constant attempts at relocations, from KC, to Oakland, and out of Oakland. Wild!
Badly run team was no comparison to how bad the city of Oakland is managed
Naw
The A's are moving? They haven't even applied for relocation yet or gone through any of the other steps. The only thing that has happened is that Nevada foolishly agreed to give them a public handout.
They're going to apply once the season ends. That's a given at this point.
@@redpillfreedom6692 Maybe accelerated because the A's want to get out of Oakland ASAP
@@Hardball247 I saw a report they'll play one more season in Oakland then bolt. I think it's because they want to play as few seasons in a minor league park as they can possibly play.
@@redpillfreedom6692 I don't think anyone will feel comfortable to be in lame duck status after this becomes official so I see the league giving the A's the exception to move a season early.
Yes it was voted 30-0 to let them move to Las Vegas
If its one team I get that a it could be team's fault but 3 teams it's clear that the city of Oakland IS the problem.
Their garbage, toxic fan base doesn't want to hear that.
Oakland deserves what that city deserves,Oakland lost the Golden State Warriors,the raiders and now the a's.
YEP! The CITY politics played the BIGGEST reason that ALL THREE franchises have NOW been lost.
DON'T replace the A's with an expansion team; replace the CITY OFFICIALS.
4 team's counting the old seals/golden seals of the nhl from the 60's & 70's
BIPOC and crime central.
Nate Thurmond, Daryle Lamonica, Ken Stabler and George Blanda are face palming their faces in heaven seeing Oakland is stripped of the Warriors and the Silver and Black.
Real
@@royalblackk Yep.
The video states that the 1972 A's won their first world series in sixty years. In truth, the A's won the world series in 1930-42 years earlier.
Yeah why the hell should the public pay for a private stadium
Funny how they played part of a season in Las Vegas in the 90s, in what would turn out to be an uncanny predictor of the future 😮
Wow this is the best recap of the A's ever. You did an amazing job.
@@BiggaNigga69 cwlnc
We both helped the Oakland A's move to Las Vegas.
This is the most accurate depiction of the A's I've ever seen. Except for the photo of Eckersley shown with the 70's players.
Insane that Oakland lost not only the Raiders, the Warriors AND the Athletics all within a few years. That said, considering Vegas just won a Stanley Cup, maybe the new city will help return both the A's and Raiders to championship glory sometime soon
with the same owner? i highly doubt it.
Only if the Knights only bought both teams (unlikely)
And they lost golden seals
@vincepersson1337 No I meant different owners
This is not a good thing. The Las Vegas athletics? Jesus. 😢
As a sacramento kings fan this breaks my heart
They were really bankin on the las vegas thing not workin out werent they?
@@LaBreeceTV 🤔⚾️ will the owners vote this down. If they do..I expect a apology video on youtube
@@LaBreeceTVIn my opinion they were banking on the A’s to be honest with there agreement to be media silent on Howard terminal before there scheduled meeting with A’s mediator. They were also 95% to a deal. The mayor of Oakland secured over 400 million dollars in state and federal grants. That’s why the mayor backed out after the land purchase. It was a slap in the face. I’m not a A’s fan. I just have family who are linked to people who were making the deal. But it’s just facts the A’s owner fisher straight up back stabbed the mayor of Oakland. Who I’m not personally a huge fan of. But she did secure more money then Vegas and according to her team and people with A’s media like Brodie Brazil they were literally 80 million dollars awash from a deal.
@@LaBreeceTVI enjoyed the video man. I just wish you included that stuff too. I’m not some secret source. People have been talking about this. It’s all love tho man
Sacramento kings will stay in Sacramento.
So, I watch this 8 months after you put this up. Be curious of your take, today. This is well done and I was hesitant to even watch. I don't want to see the A's move and it's clear, that we always thought it was an "Oakland" problem, but it is now more clear that it's a Fisher problem. Still no renderings and this is falling apart by the day. I root for chaos.
I dont blame the A's at all. This is Oakland's fault. They continue to elect terrible politicians who have allowed the city to lose all of their major sports teams.
Finally someone who gets it..I agree with you 😁 💯
I'm a longtime A's fan from Los Angeles. If Oakland is honest with itself, they will understand that the city or "the Town" as they call it is not in a position to host a professional sports club. They are one of the most unique fanbases around but financially the city just can't do it. Moving to Vegas is bittersweet because of all the memories they made in Oakland but hopefully when that stadium is built, it will reflect their past and future. #LetsGoAs
The city could. Walter Haas made it work but that's because he cared about the fans, team, city and actually invested and marketed the A's. The A's drew almost 3 million in both 90' and 91' and that's before Mount Davis was built. Also, they had the highest payroll in baseball in 91' while Haas was owner. It's not just Fisher as a lousy owner, Schott, Hofmann and Wolff were also. I don't think Fremont was a good idea but when that fell through, I would have looked hard at Sacramento. Try to keep the A's in Northern California.
@@antioch1975 I think Sacramento would've made them only a local team especially if they became the Sacramento A's.
My family arrived in the East Bay in 1966 when I was two. The Coliseum opened in 1967 and the A's arrived in 1968. All my life I have been going to the Coliseum and rooting for the A's. I have seen them all, Reggie, Rudi, Ricky, Hunter, Bando, Chavez, Donaldson, Lansford, Chapman, Stew, Eck on and on and on. I saw a Nolan Ryan no-hitter there. I saw Clemens lose his cool and get tossed early in the '89 division series against Boston from great seats I could read his lips. I have witnessed so many epic moments all my life there. But it means nothing to current ownership. It is a lifetime for me but nothing to them. Do you not get what makes your business a success? We do not pay to watch the owners of a team. How can you be that greedy and that heartless?
Where are they going to play after their lease is up at the end of the season?
Probably the Triple a ballpark in Las Vegas or maybe share the stadium with the SF Giants.
People need to wake up on the real about how Oakland lost 3 teams in a 5 year span.. I bet many of you didn't know this.. Mark Davis stated that while in negotiations with Oakland he was waiting for a proposal. What he thought was a proposal turned out to be a 5 page letter saying how beautiful Oakland is.. LOL 😂. So to all of the folks blaming Jeff Fisher, Mark Davis etc.. You need to blame the lame City of Oakland government.. It's all of their fault..
That is the point the truly uninformed missing.
Only one wrong thing with his video Las Vegas does not have four major sports teams. A WNBA team hardly classifies as a major sport.
It's not a big surprise, Oakland's a dangerous dump.
Oakland is a dirty place full of graffiti and junk so they need to clean it up.
Oakland has been rated as the WORST CITY TO LIVE in the entire state of California for well OVER A DECADE. No wonder the A's want OUT. FRESNO ... is 2nd WORST!
San Francisco is also the worst city to live.
@marioscardina-hs7ys Which is why both Chase Arena and Oracle Park are right on the shore, any further inland and it’s an overcrowded shithole (literally) covered with dirty needles.
@@marioscardina-hs7ys I can't stand either Fresno or San Francisco.
The As are widely regarded as a poverty franchise. And the politicians in Oakland and California where never going to financially help the As with their new stadium. So I’m not surprised ownership decided to find help from a city that would help them. It’s the same story that happens with every major sports team that moves to another city.
That's not always true. Some cities had viable plans for a new stadium. And the backstabbing owner still took the team away.
It is truly sad to see the Oakland A’s leave for Las Vegas. When you stop and really think about it the A’s will never get a new ballpark in Oakland private or publicly funded. That’s just what happens when you, Intervine politics and sports. Nothing ever goes right
By when?
As sad as it is, it makes sense for the A's to move, although I do wish to a market more keen on getting a ball club like Nashville or Charlotte. However, what's going to be required from the A's and their owners is one key thing (outside of actual spending on team payroll obviously): a full, top-to-bottom, rebrand. Part of the reason the Golden Knights have been so wildly successful in Vegas and for the NHL as a whole is the fact they are an expansion team, born and bred exclusively for Las Vegas. The Raiders were able to get away with keeping their brand due to the fact the Raider brand is extremely strong nationwide and an icon for the NFL. The A's can't do that. The A's brand is tarnished and associated with Oakland and being a cheap poverty franchise. That's not going to fly, so they need a new name, new colors, new uniforms, and a new identity to show Vegas they're not just guests but their team now. Plus, the early merchandise sales will certainly make them lots of money too.
Totally agree. The A’s name should be left in Oakland and be made to have their own name.
Oakland a's will move to Las Vegas and Memphis and Nashville will be an expansion for Major League Baseball.
Charlotte will also be an expansion for MLB so that their interleague rival will be the Atlanta Braves.
Nashville and Charlotte make no geographical sense. And Kaval already said the name isn't changing.
If anyone is to own a franchise, they need to have resources to keep them intact. Also, the way I see it, it's not just poor ownership throughout the Athletics history in Oakland, the city and the state of California has been poorly maintained throughout the decades.
I feel bad for Oakland sports fans! We had the Fightng Saints, they were from the WHA! The Saints folded because of financial reasons. We had the North Stars of the NHL, they moved to Dallas, Tx. Because of our politics got in the way! But now we have the Wild at X-cel Energy Center, the Twins at Target Field! And the Vikings have US Bank Stadium, and the T-Wolves and Lynx have a remodeled Target Center! All these places happened because of the North Stars leaving, I'm saying a prayer. For YOU sports fans in Oak-Town! I hope you get things strait soon, stay Oak-Town strong! With best wishes to Oakland, from this Minnesotan!
So the A’s will suck in Vagas now because fisher still won’t spend enough to pay players which is why the whole thing started lol.
Barbara Lee needs to start collecting signatures/co-sponsors to let MLB know its anti-trust exemption will be taken away if it goes through with this. MLB and billionaires who extort these cities need to pay a price. Alameda County must sue the A's for fraud in the inducement, the lie that the coliseum property was necessary to remain in Oakland, when it was just a scheme to get prime real estate on the dime. If necessary, take it through imminent domain.
Most delusional on every point. The only thing you left out was putting the team management in jail.
@@Baseball_Fan_NV wrong, there was definitely a breach of good faith and fair dealing, so the exemption does have merit to challenge it. It's actually in the works at this moment.
@@gregusjay Only according the the Mayor who doesn't have a leg to stand on. The A’s have acted in good faith in their 20 plus year attempt to find a suitable stadium solution in the Bay Area. Their current location at the Oakland-Alameda Colosseum is not only past its prime, but considerably below the standards of Major League Baseball.
Not seeing sufficient progress in their quest, the League directed the A’s two years ago to seek other alternative locations. The A’s decided with League approval, that Las Vegas would be an acceptable alternative to consider. During the past two years, the A’s have been very open about their parallel path approach.
Due to external time pressures, and considering the situations in both Oakland and Las Vegas, the A’s made a decision in April to focus on Las Vegas.
So the bottom line, the Mayor's claim is without merit, the legislation by Lee and her cohort will go nowhere. It is only political grandstanding for her Senate campaign.
@Baseball_Fan_NV I don't agree with your assumption of the facts. Oakland did indeed have a solid proposal that was made to the A's. Unlucky for Oakland a new mayor took office and pretty much has opposed giving John Fisher more public funds as Oakland had already raised roughly 400 million from private and state entities. Seems you and the commish of baseball are ignorant of the facts. Fisher is cash poor and his value is tied to stock in his GAP company and the revenue sharing $ he gets for the A's. An example of how of touch Commish Manfred is on the situation..he referred to the A's site as the MGM site and had no inclination of the offers Oakland has made. But what will be interesting is where Fisher will get the 1.5 Billion to build the smallest ball park in the majors. My bet is he flips the team and cashes out at Nevada's expense. So he can line his coffers with real $$ since his company is failing.
@@gregusjay I don't know if you follow Zennie, but he is quite familiar with the situation in Oakland and said they provided a Term Sheet, which is different than an actual proposal. But aside from those details, whether Oakland had provided the A's a proposal, the real question is if the proposal was acceptable to the A's, or the best one in their judgement. Apparently even if the Oakland had provided the A's a proposal, it clearly wasn't good enough to entice them to pursue that in Oakland versus going to Las Vegas.
As far as how Manfred referred to the site, that was an innocent mistake. MGM is next to the Tropicana site and is very prominent. Could have been just a slip of the tongue. I'm sure he was familiar with the situation in Las Vegas, especially based on reports that he and Gov. Lombardo had been in touch.
Also, it can be problematic to determine Fisher's assets as solely related to the GAP stock value. Most likely all the income over the years has been invested in a diversified portfolio.
Bottom line, the A's were open in their parallel path approach and they decided on Las Vegas.
I like how the raiders and a's would still be here today if the city just gave the raiders their own stadium instead of building mount Davis. In this scenario the raiders get a new stadium, the As don't have ugly mount Davis and can make whatever renovations they'd like to the Coliseum, and everybody's happy. But NO. This is why we can't have nice things. Im deadass finna move to contra Costa in so tired of this
Have you thought about doing part 2 of this series, as a result of the MLB owners recently approving the Athletics' move to Las Vegas on November 16?
I think it's a good thing to have an MLB team in Vegas because it can help increase the popularity of the sport of Baseball in countries where it's not as popular. Mainland China for example. Someone could come over to Vegas during vacation time and get an interest in American sports, thus boosting the popularity of Baseball in many other countries where it's not so popular. I think mainland China could get their major pro league back if that was the case. Who agrees with me?
Some tourists going to watch one of, if not the shittiest team in baseball isn't gonna do much to help spread the popularity of baseball. As bad as the A's are it may be a negative for baseball. Right now its pretty much just people who live near Oakland who are subjected to watching them play, largely out of some twisted sense of loyalty by fans.
@@unkledoda420 I don't really believe what you are saying. What I'm saying is similar to the Raiders playing in Vegas or the Golden Knights playing in Vegas. The Raiders can help increase the popularity of the sport of American Football in countries where the popularity i
s low like South Korea, while the Golden Knights can
help increase the popularity of the sport of Ice Hockey in
warm-weather countries like Mexico. Tourists from all over the world come to Vegas a lot every
year, so that's why it all makes sense.
Oakland having no teams is criminal.
26:00 why that short news guy standing so close to that woman?
Nice video. Clearly makes the point that the Athletics have been trying since 2005 to get a new stadium. Roadblocks at every turn
Blame on Manfred who seems to have no clue what´s going on in Oakland and their crappy ownership. I recommend to watch Casey Pratt or Brodie Brazil to get a full view on the picture. It doesn´t make absolutely no sense to move to Vegas. Smaller Market, less gov. funding compared to Oakland, smaller stadium (30k) on an only 9acre leased landside compared to over 50 acre at Howard Terminal, in Vegas nearly every A´s game needs to be sold out to make it affordable, etc..... But if Vegas will get it they will recognize very soon that this has been a bad deal as they don´t get a winning team as long as Fisher is the owner.This guy is not willing to invest in the team to make it competitve (See A´s for more than a decade, see San Jose Earthquakes).
The A’s left Oakland, because Oakland government was taking too long, and MLB was tired of the situation
Welcome to SIN CITY, ATHLETICS!!!!!
I wonder if they would stay of Mt Davis was never built....
Oakland is a joke .
The Vegas move costs nothing to taxpayers. There is no direct impact to homeowners. Public funds are used from bonds. I used to work with a contractor in the late 10s and he had a second place in Vegas for winter (from Chicago winters and for work). Told me Vegas then and now, is like the Denver of the 2000s. Booming. Good for them and as a Hawks fan I rooted for the Knights. Proved it could be done.
It’s tax payer money they were given. Where else is that money coming from? They already had to pay for more taxes for the raiders and when Fisher decides not to pay his portion, guess who’s next in line.
Parking in Vegas is HELL during sports events . They literally close all the streets and traffic is a bitch. Can’t even get a Lyft cuz they can’t reach you .
If they had to leave, A's should have went to Nashville.
That messes up the alignment. They need to stay somewhere out west.
Nashville doesn't have a ballpark to play in
Maybe if Oakland teams would have been relevant for the past 15 years it would be different
When the A's leave, don't come back like the soft arse Raiders......,
The A's went 64-98 in 1982. How is that the second-best record in baseball?
I wish Casey Pratt and Brody Brazil were very honest about the Oakland Athletics Stadium situation
Well done Oakland. You had 3 major sport teams and ya lost them all in less than half a decade.
That's a special kind of failure right there!
Now there really IS no "there" there.
It sucks and hurts cuz Oakland A's baseball is all I've ever known and as much as I hate the current owners the city has let me down and Las Vegas ain't gonna work either
So if The A’s move to Vegas then where are they going to played in 2025 season
Some of the information in this video is incorrect.
1. You imply that the sale of the A’s in 1995 was due to the death of their owner Walter Haas. Not true. Walter Haas agreed to sell the A’s to Steve Schott & Ken Hoffman in January of 1995. Walter Haas himself gave the reason as business: he lost money operating the team every year he owned it. Walter Haas died on September 20, 1995, a full 9 months after agreeing to sell the team. The other MLB owners approved the sale on September 14, 1995, 6 days before Haas died.
2. You state that the attempted sale of the A’s in 1978 to Marvin Davis (and a subsequent move to Denver) didn’t happen because of the Oakland Coliseum reacting to the Raiders impending move to Los Angeles. Not true. The Board of Directors of the Oakland Coliseum would not release the A’s from their lease due to the actions (or more specifically, the lack of actions) of the San Francisco Giants. The Oakland Coliseum Board was willing to release the A’s from their lease in 1978 if the Giants would agree to play one-half of their home games in the Oakland Coliseum. The Giants balked, agreeing to only play a minimal number of home games (about 20) in the Oakland Coliseum. Thus the Board held the A’s to their lease, and the deal between Finley and Davis was scrapped. The issue with the Raiders moving to Los Angeles did not arise until almost a full 2 years later in 1980 when Raiders owner Al Davis and the Los Angeles Coliseum announced an agreement. The Raiders didn’t play in Los Angeles until the 1982 season.
If you really think about it the A’s are the reason for the Raiders not being in Oakland anymore apart of me wish the A’s never came to Oakland in 60’s the Raiders should be here today in Oakland smh in my opinion there was no need for a second Bay Area baseball team it would’ve been fine if the whole region rooted for the Warriors, Sharks, Giants and Raiders.
No wonder mark davis dont want them there
San Jose A's will solve ALL problems, but Giants won't return favor.
BINGO! 🎯
I wouldn't go to San Jose for front row seats to the second coming of Christ
Here lies Oakland sports: Killed by Mount Davis
Lmao, just like a democrat blame everyone but yourself. Keep it up Detroit
Nope.. Oakland city council did.. look at seals, raiders, warriors,,,, and citizens .. Oakland is a cheap sh#$thole
I wonder if the A’s would still have moved had the Raiders stayed in Los Angeles.
@@studmuffin6630 I can bet that disassembling Mount Davis itself would be expensive. It anyone can find a citation, that would be great. Mount Davis was a huge downgrade. The Oakland Coliseum has never had any sort of true renovation and it opened in 1966!
Without Mount Davis, The Oakland Coliseum could have been renovated. That may have been a less expensive option than a new ballpark. Before Mount Davis, The Coliseum was a serviceable bowl modeled on Dodger Stadium.
The Coliseum did not have a lot of maintenance and upkeep devoted to it. That was a larger factor in how the park has decayed.
@@studmuffin6630 if they didn't get a reasonable offer. But you know Oakland.
The City of Oakland didn't have any funding to built a new ballpark for the Athletics, It was the same issue with the Raiders, They deserve too lose the Athletics, They already lost the Raiders!!
Manfred, Fisher, and puppet-boy Kaval are the only reason the A’s are leaving the Bay Area. Good luck, Las Vegas.
If the A's keep doing the same thing in Oakland. Attendance is going to be dismal at best in Las Vegas. There's no guaranteed
Sure there is. For at least 5 years they will pack the place because it's new. By then they will have a competitive team. Not to worry they will be just fine.
The A's WILL BE pulling OUT of Oakland AFTER THIS SEASON! Watch. They'll either go to Sacramento, or Las Vegas, beginning NEXT YEAR!
LaBreece!!!!
(Stops everything im doing)
Yeah bad luck for Oakland indeed.
Of their own doing.
Luck that they themselves provided.
Oakland should remove a lot of old stuff and let it be cleaned.
@@marioscardina-hs7ys California should move to a third world country. They are almost there already. And people are fleeing the carnage. Democraps have been Brainwashing your kids for decades. To what we have now. Your kids don't even know if they are boy's or girls because of the stupidity of the liberal party. They are trying to turn your kids gay. Woke business jumping on board. TV show showing gays, mideastern, and such each night. Government trying to sway you.
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Las Vegas the Sin City. No, Oakland is the new Sin City.
I left Oakland to served my country for 20 years. During the years while I was gone. Oakland turn south. Most of my family and friends moved.
Way to make it about you. I guess you believe taking the team away is great for the common kid or adult or family…
Thanks for serving.
When the community don't support the A's, Raiders and Warriors or.. THEMSELVES! IT IS NOT ABOUT ME. IT ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF OAKLAND. SORRY.@@danielharrington1891
Las Vegas is concerned that they will get another mediocre team like the Raiders. Same city. Raiders are slightly better right now but the Golden Knights just won the Cup. AT ONE TIME the Las Vegas minor league baseball team didn't draw. AT ONE TIME the ECHL ice hockey team didn't draw. Vegas likes baseball but...
The truth is you can blame Fisher all you want but Oakland really dragged its feet for a long time to get them a new place to play. Also seeing that this is all but passed in NV if it was rejected by the MLB owners it would be seen as a slight by the NV leg and would have a uphill battle ever getting public money in Vegas.
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 estan arruinando las vegas!!! Ahora es Los Angeles!!!
Oakland is kind of a dump these days. They were going to move sooner or later.
How much is Fisher worth?
“We at LaBreece TV” is one dude. Needs more logic though some interesting facts. Vegas will learn the hard way about Fisher. Boycott Gap and might as well boycott the team if every owner who approved an A’s move - we got plenty of REAL BASEBALL on RUclips. Who needs these shmucks.
Woah you said 4 major sports and showed a WNBA logo. No one cares about the WNBA. The four major sports are NBA NFL MLB and NHL.
Wow Norm you sound so not like Norm. Where's the meta joke?
Yes KC was like a farm club for the Yankees as a minor league team and a major league team
I feel like the A's moving to Las Vegas is gonna force expansion to come sooner than what the MLB anticipated and it makes sense because I know damn well the MLB is gonna compensate Oakland by giving them a new MLB team when expansion adds 6 new teams to even the divisions
Oakland isn't getting an expansion if the city is unwilling to pay for a new stadium
Expansion is happening. But not to Oakland.
Slc is more likely and maybe Austin tx as well.
Oh wow 28k fans showed up to ONE game, guess that makes up for the decades of bottom tier attendance
They’re not losing the A’s
They just did on November 16, 2023
@@michaelleroy9281 the fight is not over.
without any pro teams oakland should be renamed jokeland.
The A's never had a winning season in Kansas City the best year was 1966 when they were 74-86
When they purchased the land, I knew that it all but confirmed that they were moving. Kroenke purchased the land in Inglewood in 2014 and left St. Louis even tough they gave him what he wanted.
They didn't purchase the land. They're renting
BULLCRAP! The city of St. Louis REFUSED to build a new stadium. It's STILL being used, by a U.S.F.L. team. Because the city WON'T build a NEW stadium.
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Yet another thing leaving the disaster of a state called California.
One of the prettiest states absolutely gutted by decades of a Democrat supermajority.
Death To Oakland, Nowadays, Here!
At 17:50 - This is 180° from correct… “However the impediments to finalizing the (Howard Terminal) deal were just too much for a franchise already in its third decade of pursuing a new stadium.” What in the heck are you talking about?! 43-acres in Oakland HAD TO HAPPEN but NINE ACRES is just fine after announcing Wild Wild West site as “binding?” A’s’ Fisher and Kaval consistently SCARED OF SUCCEEDING in Oakland. They should marry each other in Vegas…They are as lame as they are greedy-LV/NV BEWARE
THERE NOT MOVING
Liberal California politicians. I wouldn’t be surprised if the giants leave too
You Oakland A's fan will fly to that STADIUM guaranteed!! A's are a ROLLING STONE ORGANIZATION you guys haven't caught that yet!?!? DISNEY STUDIOS AND UNIVERSAL STUDIOS are both moving to VEGAS!!
DISNEY AND UNIVERSAL will have a presence. They are not leaving socal entirely.
Blame it on Democrats!
Hope the A's don't bring woke californian politics with them.
Want a Bet
@@coreylevine8095 I only bet when I know I'll win for sure, but thanks for the offer anyway..... lol
@@jetsons101 I remember when the Rams move to St Louis they were somewhat woke coming to that city and woke when they move back to Los Angeles because of the BLM protest back in 2014 and drafting Michael Sam
And now they got males Cheerleaders
@@coreylevine8095 How do you know what their pronouns are, Hmmmmmm lol
When I was able to finally get the hell out of Godforsaken California in 2015, it was the best decision of my life. Happy to see the A's finally doing the same. Best of luck in Nevada.
California has the highest wage growth per capita in America. Also if the state of California ever decides to leave the union, the country would bankrupt in 72 hours according to the IRS due to the taxes paid by the citizens of California. In fact, the state of California funds several *FAILED STATES* in America like Mississippi and Kentucky. Majority of successful sports franchises reside in California as well. I’m a part time California resident due to my businesses, but a full time resident of Atlanta. And I’m planning on moving my office and operate from California hopefully by March of 2024. Also there’s a huge conspiracy theory regarding California losing residents, well according to US Census Bureau statistics indicate that the state of California population increased by 12.8% percent over the last decade and still remains the fastest growing state besides The State Of New York and Nevada. Since you moved out of state, someone else has quickly replaced you regardless of conspiracy theories floating around social media.
Most of the commentary on this thread has absolutely nothing to do with sports or the Oakland A’s in general. People are using this for political purposes
The fans only have themselves to blame. When you almost never go to your team's games, the local government will consider the team to be expendable.
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Vegas will have 4 major sports teams? 😂😅😂😅
The WNBA is not a major team. Less people watch that trash than the A's.