Jacking up the rent for a Coliseum extension was Oakland's final mistake if they had any chance of keeping the A's. It gave Fisher and MLB the final excuse to leave. If the rent had been reasonable MLB would been forced to stay in a MLB park rather than go to a triple A park. A lot can happen in 3 years Oakland could have been in a good position to be an option.
The rent was reasonable. Oakland couldn't compete with free. Fisher told Ranadive he was going to Salt Lake City or Vegas as a negotiating ploy. Ranadive, not wanting to lose NBC Sports California, gave him Sacramento for free, so his Kings TV contract remained intact.
@@thetouchback I have to disagree: The A's had been paying 1.25 million a season rent. They offered to increase their rent to 17 million for two years 8.5 million per season. Oakland's offer is below: Oakland, now facing the possibility of losing the team sooner than expected countered with an offer, upping the current $1.25 million a year lease amount to a five year contract with three year opt out clause for a total of $97 million. In addition, the team would have to either leave behind the team name, colors and branding when they move, get MLB assurances of the city getting an expansion team, or the A’s selling the team to a local owner. Oakland Chief of Staff Leigh Hanson has said that the $97 million “extension fee” charged would help Oakland’s current $170 million general fund deficit. The request to leave behind the team colors and branding pulse MLB's assurance of granting Oakland an expansion are beyond the A's control
@@kevinbarnes218 Remember in Las Vegas NV everything is expensive,except the Gasoline over there you'll get a better deal Low gasoline prices in Las Vegas than here in Bakersfield California.
My prediction is that the A's will neither stay in Sacramento nor play in Las Vegas. Since the league's owners don't like it when they don't get their money, and John Fisher doing John Fisher things will endure that that's what happens, I think they will force him to sell and the team will move to some city we aren't yet talking about, like Nashville or Salt Lake City.
I'm a Reno native (born, raised, and still live there) and although I would love to see an actual professional sports team call The Biggest Little City home, the Aces will be as close as we can get to the becoming a reality.
I am (or was) an A's fan in Reno. We used to have A's games on local radio just like the Giants do but that hasn't been the case for years so, nowadays, Reno is Giants country. Typical bad marketing of the A's in the John Fisher era. That said, I refuse to spend money to see the A's in any city including Reno as long as that money would go to Fisher. He can pound sand as far as I'm concerned.
Don't forget Greater Nevada Field held a USL Regular Season game between Sac Republic FC and Real Monarchs. That Reno got their own USL team called Reno 1868 FC that played from 2017-2020
To add to what you said, the A’s traded away their star players for mostly mediocre prospects at best. Las Vegas will only support a winner. While there were some A’s players who developed nicely this year, they’re still 2-3 years away from competing. Timing is everything
Screw Fisher. Reno doesn't need that bum in town! It all comes down to money for that scrooge. He can stay in Sac rent free while one failed stadium plan after another prevents the team to moving full time to Vegas.
to me quite honestly I never understood why they didn't the Fresno Cal league team move back to Lancaster and the Athletics move to a triple A stadium not being used in Fresno . Fresno is one hell of a sports town. after the repairs and expansion Fresno would be triple A city again
John fisher. Is a little rich boy who’s done nothing expects everyone else to pay for his stadium 🏟️ a true slime ball. --MLB should take the team from him remove him as owner
Totally false. Anybody who understands the politics of Oakland and Fisher’s motivations is 100% in agreement with this move. The fact that the team is moving to another city that is building a stadium for them proves that.
The A's belong in Philadelphia. It is where they started. Many older Philadelphians (80+) are still fiercely loyal to the A's. Their children and grandchildren, while they may not be fans of the A's per say, the A's hold a special place in their hearts because of their fathers and grandfather's love of the A's. You can perhaps move Tampa out west...even to Oakland. Remember the A's only spent two more years in Oakland than Philadlephia. Imagine the match ups upon joining the AL East. The Yankees, the Red Sox, the Oriels and Blue Jays. With the exception of the Blue Jays, those are all old teams with lots of history like the A's. They did the same thing to Philadelphia 70 years ago leaving fans heartbroken. A new ballpark in North Philadelphia could help revitalize the neighborhood. It would help the city reconnect with it's history. There is a petition on change org you can sign if you are interested. Also I am not a "bot" or being paid for this I simply want to bring the A's back to Philly where they belong.
My dad was born and raised in Philadelphia, he grew up with the A's and was a lifelong fan. Many story's about Connie Mack's Athletics! When they came out here in the 1960's they became our family's default team. Many happy trips from Sacramento to Oakland with family and friends over the years to enjoy the games. If they are going to leave Northern California I would be OK if they ended up back in Philly. I would miss the opportunity to see them in person but I would still be a fan unlike some of the other some of the other potential landing spots. Might even give me the excuse to visit the relatives back there more often!
Perhaps we should consider moving the Baltimore Orioles back to St. Louis (they were previously the St. Louis Browns), and the Atlanta Braves back to Boston. Also, the Dodgers and Giants back to New York City, so NYC will have four teams.
@@HighpointerGeocacher Sure we can consider all of that. Why not? I definitely think New York could really support a third team better than most cities support a first team. I think Boston can support a 2nd team better than most cities support a first team. Philly DEFINITELY can. But it would have to be the A's. Philadelphians are fiercely loyal Putting all that aside the fact remains the A's ARE moving, the other teams are not. There is an excessive demand for baseball (sports in general) in Philadelphia. The A's would be accepted because of their history. Also the A's were CLEARLY the better team, and it was very shady how they moved instead of the Phils. The Phils have almost objectively speaking been the worst MLB franchise. In those other instances the Yanks and Cardinals were clearly better, the A's move made little sense. Their move back to Philly, accompanied by a Tampa move to Vegas or even Oakland makes the most sense. Tampa does not seem to care, last year with the lowest playoff attendance since 1919. This would seem to be the move that makes the most sense.
@@tom198282 I live in Arizona, in the suburbs of its capital and largest city, Phoenix. There are over five million people in Maricopa County and Phoenix is now the tenth most populous metropolitan area in the USA. Should most of the major league teams be concentrated in the Northeast and Midwest, where population growth is declining and stagnant, and teams be denied to the South and West, which have a far greater percentage of the USA population than 70 years ago?
I do love Greater Nevada Field. I took in several Aces games when I lived and worked in Reno - being a native of Tacoma, Aces-Rainiers games are kinda special to me - and that park is a jewel. That said, MLB should just contract the A's.
@@Johnfisher12345 Nope. Because they haven't even broken ground on a new stadium. We still have only renders of stadium concepts. Sure, the Nevada legislature passed SB1 but that whole deal can be overturned at any time because there actually isn't a stadium on-site. By contrast, the Raiders have been playing at Allegiant Stadium for the last four years now. The place was ready for occupancy when they made their move. Mark Davis had a plan and made sure he had all his ducks in a row before executing it. By contrast, this whole drama around the A's ownership, MLB, and the push to move the team to Las Vegas has played out like a Three Stooges comedy film and the result is a team that's going to be groundsharing with a minor league team in a city that's as hot if not marginally hotter than Vegas in the summer, with for now the promise of the new stadium being ready for 2028. And it looks like the whole deal might already be beginning to unravel: blog.independent.org/2024/10/01/las-vegas-rethinking-oakland-as-stadium-baseball/ www.si.com/mlb/athletics/relocation/latest-on-a-s-proposed-move-to-las-vegas-01j98d7a2vne www.sfchronicle.com/sports/ostler/article/quiet-las-vegas-a-s-ballpark-strategy-sign-19810719.php
Keep the A’s in Oakland, no city should have to pay and cater to a Billionaire ownership who has done everything to Fail this Organization , Gutted the Roster for over 2 decades , never put a Dime into Improving the Oakland Experience, Doubled season ticket prices when the news released for their last season, scalped ticket prices all season long , Forced the Raiders hand in moving to Las Vegas after Squatting on a Lease with no Agreement, Then blame the city of Oakland which yes Has problems No doubt but Has Always had a HUGE FANBASE look at the Warriors the last 10 Years , 2015 Playoff push from the A’s , WHO would want to pay or go to a Game when you have been turned away in every aspect from being a Fan while having the media and social media nobodies who have never experienced the Coliseum tarnishing the Legacy of a 9X World Series Champion Team
I hear you but that attitude will never get Oakland it's sports teams back. The same billionaires you just cussed out will never do business with Oakland unless u check that attitude
@@stewgotz1 The stadium in Vegas is a lot nicer and would make more sense. Are you really going to be able to tell the difference of 105 in SAC to 115 degrees in LV?
Some of the comments here are saying the A’s can’t play in Vegas because of the weather. You’re missing the point that The Aviators already play in Vegas in that heat and by the way The Aviators are the AAA affiliate of the A’s.
@@NathanMoist Sacramento had the hottest July in it's history, 10-15 degrees above average. Still the biggest difference between Sacramento and Vegas is that Sacramento benefits from the Delta Breeze most summer nights, marine air from the Bay and delta which cool the nights usually arrives about 6:00 PM. In warm weather it's normal to see a 35-40 degree swing between the day's high and low. Vegas on the other hand being a desert stays hot all night.
They would pay a hefty price. The field would be impossible to maintain, among many other problems. I’m REALLY glad that garbage team and fanbase isn’t going to contaminate the joint.
Salt Lake City literally is building a brand new AAA ballpark which opens next year and they would not have to share the park with a minor league team. The AAA team would have stayed in their old ballpark in Salt Lake for 3 or 4 years
The 14,000 capacity is inflated due to the hill seating. The number of actual seats is 10,000, and they are way too close together, meaning everyone just sits there stewing in body heat when the sun is up. Also, the River Cats don't draw 6,000 either. They barely get over 5,000 most nights.
@@thetouchback I was at multiple games this season where it was packed. They had 12 sellouts this year, had over 10,000 25 times and were ranked #1 in attendance in the PCL and MiLB. While the seats are in the sun, it's not that bad. The 3rd base line seats are also usually out of the sun by the time of first pitch. The River Cats also drew more fans when it was the A's AAA affiliate playing in SHP
@@joshdrenth4526 If you are going to lie, do a better job: www.milb.com/albuquerque/news/isotopes-lead-pacific-coast-league-in-average-attendance-for-third-straight-year-andtotal-attendance-for-second-straight-season www.thebaseballcube.com/content/minor_team_log/2024~14092/
Look at the population statistics. The population of Arizona in around 7.5 million, nearly as many as New York City, although NYC's population is concentrated in a far smaller area. However, AZ did not go over a million until 1956, so to gain 6.5 million over 68 years is impressive growth indeed. Another example is that the combined population of North and South Carolina is over 16 million. That is greater than the population of California in 1958. I know the Carolinas have great passion for sports and should have two MLB teams (Charlotte and Raleigh-Durham).
How are we being used and played? They said straight up it would be 3-4 years. No problem. They said they won’t be the Sacramento A’s, lame but who cares. Fans from sac are still excited to see their team play in the city. No ones getting played when the A’s have been upfront about what their plan is for sac.
The only people in Sacramento who are excited are those who don't follow baseball and don't understand the situation. I was up at the Sutter Health Park Legacy Club last month for a River Cats game, and multiple people there think the team is moving here. They don't know about Vegas or what happened in Oakland. Those ticket packages the A's are selling don't say 3-4 years, by the way. They say the "duration of the stay in Sacramento" which could be anything.
@@thetouchback the entire city of sac doesn’t hangout at the legacy club. I’ve met hundreds of people who are excited regardless of the situation. I’m from sac, an A’s fan and I’m an excited like many others. It’s a shame what Oakland had to go through. If the team is playing 5 mins from my front door, I’m going to watch as well as others
About the season tickets, why even buy season tickets for something that has so many questions and what ifs? Just buy regular tickets and keep it simple like going to a River cats game
@@bryanberube Let's be clear here. Oakland fans are hoping that the deal in Vegas falls apart & we can get them back in Oakland. We have a plan and people who can make it happen. I wouldn't have an issue with the A's playing there if a new stadium was being constructed in Oakland
AASEG is the people who Fisher should sell to. They are now the owners of the land at the coliseum and had the money to purchase the A's and keep them in Oakland. Fisher just doesn't want to sell. MLB should make him sell
@@johnharris6655Why not? I'm serious. I'm saying this as someone who went to A's games at the Coliseum this year and last year, and had a fine time. It's not like 2013 when the sewage was backing up. I went to the Coliseum, sat down in a seat (after wiping cobwebs off of it), and watched a game happen with no mishaps. I don't really need much else.
You’ve got to be kidding me 🤣🤣🤣 Reno is no utopian treasure by any means, but Sacramento is one of the smelliest armpits in the country. There is not one single advantage that Sacramento has over Reno, ESPECIALLY when it comes to baseball.
@PTANV-x2g Sacramento is a bigger media market and the greater Sacramento area supports their teams a lot better. 2 of the biggest key factors. Plus Sutter Health Park has over 5,000 more seats that Fisher can sell to make money
The Rivers Cats only get a few hundred people per game over the Aces these days. Those extra seats at Sutter Health Park are mostly just a giant grass hill. Also, media market is irrelevant in this discussion.
@@thetouchback They still have a bigger capacity stadium for the MLB to play in. We have seen tons of people want season tickets for the A's. While they're still hill seats, there was talks about turning that into actual seats in the near future
No body's cares about Reno. Sacramento wi be better than Oakland ever was just look at the way the fans treated the stadium after the last game. A fans don't deserve the a's
Cause Sacramento offered him free rent. Money is all he cares about
Or the most common sense solution... why don't the A's play at the Oakland coliseum next year ?
They tried to do that...
Jacking up the rent for a Coliseum extension was Oakland's final mistake if they had any chance of keeping the A's. It gave Fisher and MLB the final excuse to leave. If the rent had been reasonable MLB would been forced to stay in a MLB park rather than go to a triple A park. A lot can happen in 3 years Oakland could have been in a good position to be an option.
It's in rough shape. Fischer should just sell the team, as should the White Sox owner.
The rent was reasonable. Oakland couldn't compete with free. Fisher told Ranadive he was going to Salt Lake City or Vegas as a negotiating ploy. Ranadive, not wanting to lose NBC Sports California, gave him Sacramento for free, so his Kings TV contract remained intact.
@@thetouchback I have to disagree: The A's had been paying 1.25 million a season rent. They offered to increase their rent to 17 million for two years 8.5 million per season.
Oakland's offer is below:
Oakland, now facing the possibility of losing the team sooner than expected countered with an offer, upping the current $1.25 million a year lease amount to a five year contract with three year opt out clause for a total of $97 million. In addition, the team would have to either leave behind the team name, colors and branding when they move, get MLB assurances of the city getting an expansion team, or the A’s selling the team to a local owner. Oakland Chief of Staff Leigh Hanson has said that the $97 million “extension fee” charged would help Oakland’s current $170 million general fund deficit. The request to leave behind the team colors and branding pulse MLB's assurance of granting Oakland an expansion are beyond the A's control
The A"s should play in Oakland until the Day the new stadium is finished in Las Vegas
exactly all of this is a clown show
@@kevinbarnes218 Remember in Las Vegas NV everything is expensive,except the Gasoline over there you'll get a better deal
Low gasoline prices in Las Vegas than here in Bakersfield California.
Pay to play in a dump with average attendance around 10,000? Why?
My prediction is that the A's will neither stay in Sacramento nor play in Las Vegas.
Since the league's owners don't like it when they don't get their money, and John Fisher doing John Fisher things will endure that that's what happens, I think they will force him to sell and the team will move to some city we aren't yet talking about, like Nashville or Salt Lake City.
Nope, none of that will happen. MLB completely understands and agrees with this move, even if you don’t understand it.
They can stay there. We whored out Vegas too much for this team.
I mean, if there's any city that knows about whoring, its Las Vegas....
I'm a Reno native (born, raised, and still live there) and although I would love to see an actual professional sports team call The Biggest Little City home, the Aces will be as close as we can get to the becoming a reality.
I wish Manfred put as much time trying to keep the A's in Oakland as he did in destroying baseball.
Most of your videos are nostalgic and feel-good. You really opened up a can of whoop-ass on this one!
I am (or was) an A's fan in Reno. We used to have A's games on local radio just like the Giants do but that hasn't been the case for years so, nowadays, Reno is Giants country. Typical bad marketing of the A's in the John Fisher era. That said, I refuse to spend money to see the A's in any city including Reno as long as that money would go to Fisher. He can pound sand as far as I'm concerned.
Don't forget Greater Nevada Field held a USL Regular Season game between Sac Republic FC and Real Monarchs. That Reno got their own USL team called Reno 1868 FC that played from 2017-2020
Great reporting here, Cheyenne, but just adds to the WTF factor 😁
To add to what you said, the A’s traded away their star players for mostly mediocre prospects at best. Las Vegas will only support a winner. While there were some A’s players who developed nicely this year, they’re still 2-3 years away from competing. Timing is everything
Screw Fisher. Reno doesn't need that bum in town! It all comes down to money for that scrooge. He can stay in Sac rent free while one failed stadium plan after another prevents the team to moving full time to Vegas.
to me quite honestly I never understood why they didn't the Fresno Cal league team move back to Lancaster and the Athletics move to a triple A stadium not being used in Fresno . Fresno is one hell of a sports town. after the repairs and expansion Fresno would be triple A city again
Pretty soon Reno's going to have a AAA Minor League hockey, with that team currently playing in Tucson.
Great video and coverage in the A's! Did you go to Cornell?
John fisher. Is a little rich boy who’s done nothing expects everyone else to pay for his stadium 🏟️ a true slime ball. --MLB should take the team from him remove him as owner
Nobody is a John Fisher defender. Even those who are pro move think he's scum
Totally false. Anybody who understands the politics of Oakland and Fisher’s motivations is 100% in agreement with this move. The fact that the team is moving to another city that is building a stadium for them proves that.
@@Johnfisher12345Lol no moron, nobody is in agreement with you on that. And anyone who sides with John Fisher is just as stupid as he is.
The A's belong in Philadelphia. It is where they started. Many older Philadelphians (80+) are still fiercely loyal to the A's. Their children and grandchildren, while they may not be fans of the A's per say, the A's hold a special place in their hearts because of their fathers and grandfather's love of the A's. You can perhaps move Tampa out west...even to Oakland. Remember the A's only spent two more years in Oakland than Philadlephia. Imagine the match ups upon joining the AL East. The Yankees, the Red Sox, the Oriels and Blue Jays. With the exception of the Blue Jays, those are all old teams with lots of history like the A's. They did the same thing to Philadelphia 70 years ago leaving fans heartbroken. A new ballpark in North Philadelphia could help revitalize the neighborhood. It would help the city reconnect with it's history. There is a petition on change org you can sign if you are interested. Also I am not a "bot" or being paid for this I simply want to bring the A's back to Philly where they belong.
My dad was born and raised in Philadelphia, he grew up with the A's and was a lifelong fan. Many story's about Connie Mack's Athletics! When they came out here in the 1960's they became our family's default team. Many happy trips from Sacramento to Oakland with family and friends over the years to enjoy the games. If they are going to leave Northern California I would be OK if they ended up back in Philly. I would miss the opportunity to see them in person but I would still be a fan unlike some of the other some of the other potential landing spots. Might even give me the excuse to visit the relatives back there more often!
That's a good take. Its nice to hear from a true old-school baseball fan.
Perhaps we should consider moving the Baltimore Orioles back to St. Louis (they were previously the St. Louis Browns), and the Atlanta Braves back to Boston. Also, the Dodgers and Giants back to New York City, so NYC will have four teams.
@@HighpointerGeocacher Sure we can consider all of that. Why not? I definitely think New York could really support a third team better than most cities support a first team. I think Boston can support a 2nd team better than most cities support a first team. Philly DEFINITELY can. But it would have to be the A's. Philadelphians are fiercely loyal Putting all that aside the fact remains the A's ARE moving, the other teams are not. There is an excessive demand for baseball (sports in general) in Philadelphia. The A's would be accepted because of their history. Also the A's were CLEARLY the better team, and it was very shady how they moved instead of the Phils. The Phils have almost objectively speaking been the worst MLB franchise. In those other instances the Yanks and Cardinals were clearly better, the A's move made little sense. Their move back to Philly, accompanied by a Tampa move to Vegas or even Oakland makes the most sense. Tampa does not seem to care, last year with the lowest playoff attendance since 1919. This would seem to be the move that makes the most sense.
@@tom198282 I live in Arizona, in the suburbs of its capital and largest city, Phoenix. There are over five million people in Maricopa County and Phoenix is now the tenth most populous metropolitan area in the USA.
Should most of the major league teams be concentrated in the Northeast and Midwest, where population growth is declining and stagnant, and teams be denied to the South and West, which have a far greater percentage of the USA population than 70 years ago?
too small. Easy answer. And Aces are the D-Back affiliate.
Because Reno isn’t what it used to be. Dead town.
I do love Greater Nevada Field. I took in several Aces games when I lived and worked in Reno - being a native of Tacoma, Aces-Rainiers games are kinda special to me - and that park is a jewel.
That said, MLB should just contract the A's.
Why not just play at Las Vegas Ballpark?
Anybody get the feeling we're looking at the final years of a 123-year old major league team?
No. Yankees and Dodgers are having fun with full attendance. It's just the Oakland crowd that is jaded
Nope, you’re about to see them thrive in a new city that actually puts in the investment to support them.
@@Johnfisher12345 Nope. Because they haven't even broken ground on a new stadium. We still have only renders of stadium concepts. Sure, the Nevada legislature passed SB1 but that whole deal can be overturned at any time because there actually isn't a stadium on-site. By contrast, the Raiders have been playing at Allegiant Stadium for the last four years now. The place was ready for occupancy when they made their move. Mark Davis had a plan and made sure he had all his ducks in a row before executing it. By contrast, this whole drama around the A's ownership, MLB, and the push to move the team to Las Vegas has played out like a Three Stooges comedy film and the result is a team that's going to be groundsharing with a minor league team in a city that's as hot if not marginally hotter than Vegas in the summer, with for now the promise of the new stadium being ready for 2028. And it looks like the whole deal might already be beginning to unravel:
blog.independent.org/2024/10/01/las-vegas-rethinking-oakland-as-stadium-baseball/
www.si.com/mlb/athletics/relocation/latest-on-a-s-proposed-move-to-las-vegas-01j98d7a2vne
www.sfchronicle.com/sports/ostler/article/quiet-las-vegas-a-s-ballpark-strategy-sign-19810719.php
John Fischer doesn't even have the support of Shen Yun
BART is the ownership not bribery😷
Why new owner dont say ok we play two seasons somewhere and back to Oakland when coliseum renovated
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THE RIVERCATS SHOULD PLAY IN RENO NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!! Then, the A's can play on real grass.
If the A’s announced to play in Reno, you would have proceeded to make videos hating on Reno and how it’s such a terrible idea. always negative news
It's a better climate and better facility for baseball. It makes much more sense.
Better facility? Sacramento is building the A’s a brand new club house, weight room, batting cages and stadium upgrades.
Tell everyone you're a butthurt Sacramentoan without telling everyone. 🤣
Keep the A’s in Oakland, no city should have to pay and cater to a Billionaire ownership who has done everything to Fail this Organization , Gutted the Roster for over 2 decades , never put a Dime into Improving the Oakland Experience, Doubled season ticket prices when the news released for their last season, scalped ticket prices all season long , Forced the Raiders hand in moving to Las Vegas after Squatting on a Lease with no Agreement, Then blame the city of Oakland which yes Has problems No doubt but Has Always had a HUGE FANBASE look at the Warriors the last 10 Years , 2015 Playoff push from the A’s , WHO would want to pay or go to a Game when you have been turned away in every aspect from being a Fan while having the media and social media nobodies who have never experienced the Coliseum tarnishing the Legacy of a 9X World Series Champion Team
I hear you but that attitude will never get Oakland it's sports teams back. The same billionaires you just cussed out will never do business with Oakland unless u check that attitude
@@sirchi8731 🤣🤣🤣 go back and read the message casual never once cursed only stated facts 🤡🤡🤡
@@sirchi8731 Congratulations. You just won the dumbest comment of the week award.
@@jonnyt16 go argue with your boyfriend 🙄
@@Eastbayfitteds_ go argue with your boyfriend 🙄
Why don’t they play in the Aviators stadium in Las Vegas?
Are you kidding??? You think it’s hot in Sac? What the hell is Vegas?? A cooler weather city??
@@stewgotz1 The stadium in Vegas is a lot nicer and would make more sense. Are you really going to be able to tell the difference of 105 in SAC to 115 degrees in LV?
@@jgoff76 Greedy ownership needs their TV money
Some of the comments here are saying the A’s can’t play in Vegas because of the weather. You’re missing the point that The Aviators already play in Vegas in that heat and by the way The Aviators are the AAA affiliate of the A’s.
@@NathanMoist Sacramento had the hottest July in it's history, 10-15 degrees above average. Still the biggest difference between Sacramento and Vegas is that Sacramento benefits from the Delta Breeze most summer nights, marine air from the Bay and delta which cool the nights usually arrives about 6:00 PM. In warm weather it's normal to see a 35-40 degree swing between the day's high and low. Vegas on the other hand being a desert stays hot all night.
Should’ve played in Montreal
we've disagreed a bit in the past, but I'm 100% with you on this one
I mean, I've also been pretty wrong in the past, so you were probably right to disagree with me.
What would happen to the Aces then?
They would pay a hefty price. The field would be impossible to maintain, among many other problems. I’m REALLY glad that garbage team and fanbase isn’t going to contaminate the joint.
The same thing the Rivercats are doing, adjust their schedule to deconflict with the A’s
And can't one take Amtrak Besides being a better drive
Salt Lake City literally is building a brand new AAA ballpark which opens next year and they would not have to share the park with a minor league team. The AAA team would have stayed in their old ballpark in Salt Lake for 3 or 4 years
Yet, the Bee's can't even draw 6,000 for their games. The new stadium would be too small for a MLB team. Sacramento has 14,000 capacity
The 14,000 capacity is inflated due to the hill seating. The number of actual seats is 10,000, and they are way too close together, meaning everyone just sits there stewing in body heat when the sun is up.
Also, the River Cats don't draw 6,000 either. They barely get over 5,000 most nights.
@@thetouchback I was at multiple games this season where it was packed. They had 12 sellouts this year, had over 10,000 25 times and were ranked #1 in attendance in the PCL and MiLB. While the seats are in the sun, it's not that bad. The 3rd base line seats are also usually out of the sun by the time of first pitch. The River Cats also drew more fans when it was the A's AAA affiliate playing in SHP
@@joshdrenth4526 If you are going to lie, do a better job: www.milb.com/albuquerque/news/isotopes-lead-pacific-coast-league-in-average-attendance-for-third-straight-year-andtotal-attendance-for-second-straight-season
www.thebaseballcube.com/content/minor_team_log/2024~14092/
@@thetouchback That website I just submitted was #2 in the Google search for Sacramento River Cats attendance 2024
The As’s should change there name. Las Vegas A’s sounds dumb. Doesn’t the people of Las Vegas want to have a team with their own identity?.
No
Because no one lives there
Look at the population statistics. The population of Arizona in around 7.5 million, nearly as many as New York City, although NYC's population is concentrated in a far smaller area. However, AZ did not go over a million until 1956, so to gain 6.5 million over 68 years is impressive growth indeed.
Another example is that the combined population of North and South Carolina is over 16 million. That is greater than the population of California in 1958. I know the Carolinas have great passion for sports and should have two MLB teams (Charlotte and Raleigh-Durham).
Great video. It's important to be mindful Sac how you're being used in this whole situation and how folks from Oakland view all of this as well.
How are we being used and played? They said straight up it would be 3-4 years. No problem. They said they won’t be the Sacramento A’s, lame but who cares. Fans from sac are still excited to see their team play in the city. No ones getting played when the A’s have been upfront about what their plan is for sac.
The only people in Sacramento who are excited are those who don't follow baseball and don't understand the situation. I was up at the Sutter Health Park Legacy Club last month for a River Cats game, and multiple people there think the team is moving here. They don't know about Vegas or what happened in Oakland.
Those ticket packages the A's are selling don't say 3-4 years, by the way. They say the "duration of the stay in Sacramento" which could be anything.
@@thetouchback the entire city of sac doesn’t hangout at the legacy club. I’ve met hundreds of people who are excited regardless of the situation. I’m from sac, an A’s fan and I’m an excited like many others. It’s a shame what Oakland had to go through. If the team is playing 5 mins from my front door, I’m going to watch as well as others
About the season tickets, why even buy season tickets for something that has so many questions and what ifs? Just buy regular tickets and keep it simple like going to a River cats game
@@bryanberube Let's be clear here. Oakland fans are hoping that the deal in Vegas falls apart & we can get them back in Oakland. We have a plan and people who can make it happen. I wouldn't have an issue with the A's playing there if a new stadium was being constructed in Oakland
Reno sucks, coming from someone from Sacramento.
Reno sucks, that's why
Hey you suck, moron
Not going to happen sorry
Sac is easier to get to. MLB is banking on visiting team money.
Just sell them to lacob and stay in oakland
Will u guys leave Joe Lacob alone. MLB would have to allow Joe to join their club. Maybe he doesn't have a good relationship with the other MLB owners
AASEG is the people who Fisher should sell to. They are now the owners of the land at the coliseum and had the money to purchase the A's and keep them in Oakland. Fisher just doesn't want to sell. MLB should make him sell
You cannot continue to play in a run down stadium.
@@johnharris6655 bingo. But of course Oakland wants someone else to build it
@@johnharris6655Why not?
I'm serious. I'm saying this as someone who went to A's games at the Coliseum this year and last year, and had a fine time. It's not like 2013 when the sewage was backing up.
I went to the Coliseum, sat down in a seat (after wiping cobwebs off of it), and watched a game happen with no mishaps. I don't really need much else.
Sacramento is part of Comcast California. Everything boils downs to media and media market.
Cause compared to Sacramento, Reno is quite lame
You’ve got to be kidding me 🤣🤣🤣
Reno is no utopian treasure by any means, but Sacramento is one of the smelliest armpits in the country. There is not one single advantage that Sacramento has over Reno, ESPECIALLY when it comes to baseball.
@PTANV-x2g Sacramento is a bigger media market and the greater Sacramento area supports their teams a lot better. 2 of the biggest key factors. Plus Sutter Health Park has over 5,000 more seats that Fisher can sell to make money
Sacramento's media market is 20th in the country vs Reno's 102 biggest media market.
The Rivers Cats only get a few hundred people per game over the Aces these days. Those extra seats at Sutter Health Park are mostly just a giant grass hill. Also, media market is irrelevant in this discussion.
@@thetouchback They still have a bigger capacity stadium for the MLB to play in. We have seen tons of people want season tickets for the A's. While they're still hill seats, there was talks about turning that into actual seats in the near future
No body's cares about Reno. Sacramento wi be better than Oakland ever was just look at the way the fans treated the stadium after the last game. A fans don't deserve the a's