How Huawei plans to take over (HarmonyOS explained)
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HarmonyOS is Huawei's big attempt at building a new ecosystem to challenge Google's and Apple's. After losing access to Google Services and most chips and processors, the company has pivoted to making software. Here is how that is working out so far.
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"Write once run everywhere"
Java developers: Hey, I've heard this one before!
JAVA'S PRIME FEATURE. Also, the whole of harmony os reminded me of how important and sublime, object oriented programming is.
@@simeonnischith6075 While object oriented programming might have correlations, write once run everywhere has not much to do with object orientedness but more to do with unified instruction set for the well specified underlying virtual machine and for upgradability, a good match of reserved instruction set while still being efficient
@@sampadmohanty8573 ye that too
An operating system that talks in machine language and a high level language running on a virtual machine are quite different.
Write once debug everywhere
this episode is in urgent need of a follow-up, especially after the release of both Huawei Mate 60 pro & HarmonyOS NEXT
If Huawei manages to comes out of this mess, it'll easily be the greatest comeback of the decade...
Hope it isnt. I wish japan or korea steps up their game more. Giving the CCP more control would be 100x worse than the US gov.
@@honkhonk8009 Yeah me too, but Korean and Japanese phones target a hole different demographic. For example, I want cheap phones with good specifications and only Chinese phones fulfill that need. Plus Google and Facebook already spy on you, so I don't think it would matter if I used Harmony OS or android..
@@honkhonk8009 no one is worse than the U.S gov, ask any non American or American Ally
Harmony kill Android🥳
@@yjl11100 oh my god you communist imbeciles. I am from Greece and if it weren’t for America the whole Europe would be shell hole
5:41 Forza with PS controls on a Harmony phone is all sorts of cursed
A xbox game on a huawei phone with PS 1 controls
@@ozrencupac there's a Chinese company which stole PS and PSP emulator, jacked it full of ads, - and now sells it in China on TukTuk
@Ndragonawa @Ozren Cupac there's a Chinese company which stole PS and PSP emulator, jacked it full of ads, - and now sells it in China on TukTuk
Btw, cool username!
@@KOTYAR0 What do you mean "stole"? The code is open source under GPL 2.0.
@@DailyBeatings its still illegal anyway if they dont make the modifications to the source code public.
7:11 Microsoft: I'm gonna pretend I never heard that
I'm from Philippines. I'm waiting for the Harmony OS. 🇵🇭 I think it's cool and new.
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Me too
New? Its literally a cross between iOS and Android. They havent shown a single feature that's new. Not one.
I'm opting for the harmony os
If bbk electronics and huawei work together they can pull this off.
What is the incentive for bbk to work together with them on this?
And it's an "if" after all, most manufacturers are not so confident in ditching Google or Android yet. Android has proven its sustainability in future secured by all these ecosystem and user database things.
@@abhishekdev258 Having 4 companies running paralleling in android market is pretty boring
@@leongcm1998 Android didn’t prove It's sustainability. Instead it has become a huge concern for phone manufacturers. Anytime they can shut off their GMS for any company. Trust is the main issue with American companies nowadays.
@@helianthus2739 That's my point, they won't want to shut off GMS.
On firm's perspective, they don't want to be binded by Google. When you want to throw something away for something uncertain, that's the risk most manufacturers don't want to bear. At least for now.
It's proven, look at how Huawei performs in global market. Others won't want to take that risk either.
If they do, they would've ditched it.
I forgot, that this is your main channel and asked myself: why is there a Friday checkout video on a wednesday?
Happy Friday
+1 same here!
ok
Lol me too
Exactly
Just as the US Govt. can stop Qualcomm from selling to Huawei, Conversely, the Chinese Govt. can "persuade" the various phone companies to use the Harmony OS platform as a default platform for National Security reasons. Give it a thought. Both countries can use the same rule. Don't always think US centric. The are many countries who doesn't like to use Google phones and hoping for the day that they have a choice.
what do u expect from an always self righteous center westerner called himself IT expert.
do that and basically immidiately loose the export market
@@eduwino151 they can export Android phones for the global market.....duh
@@fannyalbi9040 Compare 1930s Nazi Germany vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO!!!!
HarmonyOS is a straight theft of Android except with back doors built by the Chinese government. No thanks.
Basically huawei is shifting from being the Apple of china to being the Google of china
Edit:. I meant they are shifting from making premium phones (like apple, for china)....to making software for phones, like Google does
xiaomi is known as apple of china
@@amitsharma0794 nope, Xiaomi can never be apple. Even in China. But Huawei can, but not in the smartphone market due to the US ban
@@burggerbig102 in what, they don't have anything that Apple have, they only have cheap copy of the original version
iOS -> Harmony Android Skin that looks like iOS launcher on Android
iPadOS -> Harmony Android Skin that looks like iPadOS on Android
MacBook -> MatBook ( Cheap Huawei ripoff)
iPad -> MatPad ( Cheap Huawei ripoff)
@@GTAandApplechannel even their product names are derivatives.
@@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh yep
Even Xiaomi does that, remember the MiPad (M + iPad = MiPad)
They are also investing in cars Those too will probably run Harmony OS.
They are investing into in-car infotainment systems and self-driving software, not cars themselves, but yes, their current car stuff like HiCar is running some version of HarmonyOS for now
@@TechAltar total agree but I think huwai is synonymous to cyber insecurity 😅
@@TechAltar You keep misleading people Hamm? Folks, if harmony OS is not an OS then android isn’t too. Because they use the android open source version in which any manufacturer can replicate and and make an OS from there. The android open source version is not owned by google but google is responsible for updates. Anyone can create an OS from there and call is their own OS. It’s a model and it’s not the same version that run on our phones, it’s a different version on android.
Huawei made it much better with the intention to become the OS of Internet of things.
And yes, google mobile services apps will work there just as they work on IOS.
@@blackworld5615 Rest assured, Huawei's products are far more secure than anything India has created...
@@blackworld5615 no it's not.
I was looking forward to this video! 🙏🏼
Huawei did find a niche and maybe they can at least take over the Chinese App-Store Market 🤔
As a former windows phone user, the chance is so slim it’s not even worth thinking about
@@nigelbassett3791
He said the Chinese market only. And windows store sucked. Never would have made it in China
@@TheZachary86 It’s not about how good the tech is or even the location. Humans are just wired to latch on to something and keep on that habit unit something drastic forces change. And another dying phone division making another last ditch attempt to stay relevant by propping up it’s mythical “third OS” isn’t gonna cut it. You’d have astronomically better chances inventing a new tech product that runs a new OS than trying to win over the deeply apathetic consumer on the basis of “it’s different, but you’ll have to throw out all your apps and sacrifice your first born to devs in the hopes that one will even give an app for our platform a passing thought”. It just not gonna happen.
@@nigelbassett3791
> you’ll have to throw out all your apps
Where does it say that in the video? Also did you even watched the integration strategy that was brought up in the video? No one is saying that huawei is going to rip your phone OS and install their own proprietary system that has no integration. I feel that people are just commenting and haven’t even watched the whole video and are just commenting because of their preconceived notions
@@TheZachary86 My point is that it won’t matter. There have been dozens of these failures over the years, and there will be dozens more. The odds of Huawei becoming the next LG are just gonna go up, especially if they’re gonna keep venting money chasing moonshot ideas like this that no one cares about
Competition & diversity is healthy. I hope they succeed
We already have Linux system for phone, Tizen by Samsung, Sailfish OS, Windows Mobile.. where have you gone?
Agree, I hope Huawei can succeed and focus to develop the best of themselves.
@@KapitanVladimirArsenyev Those are either trash or they failed eventually so now we need new competition
There's already competition(tho I'll never say no to more): KaiOS, SailfishOS, Mobile Linux(PureOS), & CalyxOS
@@bootao1671 Of course they are failed because they are independent projects and didn't get government support as Huawei did from P.R.C govt, duh 🙄 even Huawei still shamelessly rely on Google IMS, unlike those "failed" OS.
If they could make this dream come reality then believe me Android & iOS will not going to be two of the only major mobile OS.
Exactly how huawei took over the smartphone market. USA would not bully any more companies anymore
everybody is first until they refresh
First
Be original
No, i am not
That's your first thought after watching this video? Be original.
@@sinuslebastian6366 I commented this about 1minute after the video was up and everyone were commenting first, also it was a joke.
If Huawei still makes it work, It'll be nothing short of a miracle!
It is not that hard, and not a miracle either. As they aren't starting from scratch. It is fork of Android. Even their IDE as shown in the video looks like a fork of Android studio.
@@niluss6 good luck making your own chip 😂
@@nakternal ow this is not about a chip. This is software, and there is this thing called Copy > Paste...
@@niluss6 huawei can make it because of china. They are not a free market they can tell xiaomi oppo etc hey guys android is banned you have to use harmony now. They did this to RUclips Facebook etc
@@user-fr2fm3ri3w But you don't understand thou. If you peek into the Harmony API, it is based on the old version of Android. It is like how custom ROM makers do it, they get Android source and build on top of it. On this case Huawei gets a copy of Android, does their modification and that's the start. Another example is how Linux distros starts by forking an already made one, and modifying it, changing it, making it their own.
And I am not saying Huawei can't built it from scratch. They could, and probably has the resources to do so. But they certainly did not start from scratch. And starting from scratch is probably dumb, costly, if you can just fork Android.
I think an expression that's missing is that HarmonyOS isn't really an OS... yet.
It's clear they intend to move in that direction to have a fully integrated ecosystem with software suite.
Calling it an OS is Huawei’s publicity stunt. Since he has chatted with people from huawei, saying that directly could be rude and rough.
@@semi59o it's not an OS now deal with it
@@GTAandApplechannel I wonder, where _you_ personally would put a comma in your statement.
@@igorchistyakov8876 between OS and Now
they are atleast making some steps so thats good :)
Using HarmonyOS, version 2.0.0, right now, typing this message, in Canada, on my Huawei Mate 30 Pro 5G, on Bell network. Smoother, cleaner, faster and just all around better than Android used before installing this a few weeks ago. No issues running the GMS and all the Google apps. Personally, I won't use any other phone than Huawei, as long as they are available and I can get my hands on. Even the Huawei laptop I got a year ago is miles better quality all around than any other ones ever used, at a competitive price.
how much social credit points did you earn for that bad script you just wrote
This is just plain sad lolol
@@eduwino151 you guys getting paid by writing ?
Thanks for your input. I agree with you. I think huawei is way better phone than any other competitions
Finally your modular example was clear and easy to explain for someone else. MrWhoseTheBoss made a good video on this topic too but your example was clear.
So Subscribed period.
I subbed right after the intro this channel is what i was looking for for so long now good job
Huawei still makes phone, its chip design company still running and design new chip. Since most of the chip manufacturers have to use US technology all over the world, Huawei has to rely on 100% domestic technology, and this year 28nm CPU can be massively made, 14nm CPU next year. So Huawei will solve the chip problem in several year, and the lack for chip supplies will improve next year.
Harmony kill Android🥳
Chinese government was about to do this anyway, so whatever. Huawei is controlled by Chinese government and everybody knows that, and as government forced Huawei to spy it was the only reason Huawei has fallen down to zero.
@@justme6275 huawei is literally running android , harmony os is literally android without Google’s apps
@@justme6275 even i'm are Android fan but i like HarmonyOS more than Android
Harmony OS is being used not only in cellphone or pads, but also cars, IoT devices, etc.
The Harmony OS running on IoT devices are not the same as the one running on phones; they just share the same name. It's like naming your spoon "chopsticks" and claim you can drink soup with chopsticks.
@@louislee5792 From developer's point of view, it doesn't matter if they are the same or not, since applications are not talking directly to the kernels of the OS. Applications are talking through APIs provided by the HAL. Harmony OS's for phones/pads and IoT are using different kernels, Linux or LiteOS, but they share common APIs. When developers develop an application, they can decided if they want it to run, or which module they want to run on phone, watch or IoT devices. The different between the two Harmony OS variants is similar to the concept of Android vs Android Ware (Ware OS now).
@@ericliume While the development might be more or less the same, that's not really the point here. Just because they share similar APIs don't make them variants of one another. It's like a Java developer claiming Mac, Windows and Linux to be of the same family since Java applications interact with JVM and not the kernels. Or a JS developer claiming Safari, Chrome and Firefox to be of the same family since they implement the same Web APIs.
By the way, even though HarmonyOS is not yet open source, people have successfully run APKs on HarmonyOS, implying the APIs to be compatible. Can I then claim HarmonyOS to be a variant of Android? Would you agree that HarmonyOS is an Android distribution?
@@louislee5792 To be honest, Java developer can consider Mac, Windows and Linux are all the same due to the fact that JVM makes the platforms less of a fuss. That is the point in the first place as JVM comes into picture. While JS, on the other hand, cannot claim the same since it is highly depending on how each browser supports the APIs and if the implementation is W3C compatible. By the way, Huawei has already made it open source. HarmonyOS is open source under the project OpenHarmony, you can go download the source from gitee.com/openharmony , and you can download it's home-grown LiteOS kernel source from GitHub.
@@ericliume Java developer can see the three as the same **during development**, but they are still three different operating systems. Period.
Applying an abstraction layer on top of existing OS doesn't make these OS the same. Why just focus on Java developers? Why not ask UWP developers? Swift developers? GTK developers?
Now I want to see the OS vs no OS rant. 😅
Harmony kill Android🥳
Great Video. Love the Story Behind Series.
Give this man a medal... That's a content creator ❤️
Okay that's actually a really cool use case. Modular apps across devices is actually an amazing function and I'd use Harmony provided the app ecosystem comes along
India will most probably ban it. How would you use?
@@kokuyocamlin07 He's talking of a probability, bro... "If".
Your videos are so interesting . I didn’t know any other channel that talks about such topics .
3:28 I was 100% convinced that this is a stock clip, yet I'm 100% convinced they wouldn't have RUclips Vanced in a stcok clip :D
I think this is the best explanation video about HarmonyOS and future plans of Huawei. Great work!
HarmonyOS new feature is insane! With huawei tablet and PC manager all run together is next level!
Thank you, I was really looking for an explanation about Huawei situation. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
@@TechAltar your videos take up amazing topics! The story behind series is one of my favourite things to watch on YT
@@TechAltar Compare 1930s Nazi Germany vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO!!!!
I love the script for the intro ❤️
Pricing of their recent flagships along with no Google out of the box is what killed them.
The cross device functionality is something some of us have been dreaming about, for it to be 'cross operating system' is very interesting imo
I said it once, I'll say it again: Huawei is abstracting the underlying operating system. I see that as somewhat an revolutionary idea
Agreed! I think it's an interesting idea, even if I'm not sure it will succeed
@@TechAltar i kinda hope it'll succeed if not i kinda hope more people realize they are on to something and replicate it, abstracting the os away from the user and possibly the app devs feels like the way forward 👀
"abstracting the underlying operation system"
So... Virtual machines?
@@louislee5792 nope, abstracting the underlying operating system by blurring the lines between them. harmonyos app are supposed to work as long as "harmonyos' layer" is there regardless if its android or some other os. this "layer" is capable of running parts of the app on another device, regardless of the underlying operating system, and interface with it as well. finally this "layer" is also capable of access peripherals connected to another device regardless of the underlying os.
actually here's an ambitious example
say you have a windows computer, an android phone and an ipad and a smart tv and say vlc is an "harmonyos app"
with your android phone you launch vlc and but you tell run it on your windows computer. as a result you play say a movie stored on your pc but both the video and the sound appear to come from your tv, you pick up your tv remote and pause it. finally you pick up your ipad decide to tweak vlc's settings to your liking before continuing.
a bit forced, overdone and probably a bad example but in huawei's terms all 4 devices are running "harmonyOS". to the end user all the devices are running "one operating system" despite there being 4 underlying operating systems; those 4 operating systems are abstracted away from the user as one single operating system
@@fuseteam Kinda like Java Virtual Machine (JVM)? You can install it on most devices and their operating systems, hence developers can develop software for them all. But maybe Huawei is also doing interconnectivity/interoperabilitybetween them at the same time.
My Android just blew up, on my RCA phone, beyond g repair. Welcome to you "Harmony SOS"!!
Huawei's pivot to be a software company, for now, and be the Google of China sounds compelling and I am interested in what the Harmony platform can bring to their domestic market
Spyware
@@nakternal.. Android would have been better if they didn't install so much bloatware on their phones. Ios is a better os.
@@thewishmastur Its still chinese crap
@@nakternal that is all modern commerical software
You mean being forced to keep their mouths shut ?!
They will die as a company
Clear video, good job
whew i forgot this channel existed. you rarely appear on my feed, you should upload more.
I feel the same enthusiasm as the modular phone concept
Nice video and explanation! It all makes sense now, seeing HarmonyOS as a platform rather than an OS. Funny the US pushed Huawei to become a leader faster than they were... I still would prefer all the system to be fully open (Free Software, as in freedom), but at the very least, it's something to keep an eye on.
Their OS is nothing more than theft of Android.
@@Evan_Rodgers How can you steal what is free? I mean, AOSP.
@@Evan_Rodgers do some homework first lol
@@Evan_Rodgers but android is free is open to everyone?
@@hikarupp123 yeah but huawei claims they made a new os , meanwhile it’s just a form of android. I can make my own os too if I fort android or linuix, all they did was change the icons and remove Google’s apps
We need another ecosystem!
For what reason
@@hahahahahah607 no reason that's the reason
@@hahahahahah607 cause none of existent ecosystem is complete.
We need another "bluetooth" revolution where everything can be connected in a huge ecosystem even if those are not from the same manufacturer.
@@mariankis1158 Buying Chinese product means supporting rape, murder, culture genocide and violations of human right in Tibet, southern Mongolen, hongkong 🇭🇰 people and Uighur..
Say no to made in China
@@hahahahahah607 apple products are made in the same way, in China. Tesla cars too. Xiaomi & Oppo. A lot of chips too. Your headphones are, your peripherals are.
Huawei is not the problem here. Also, they are good to their employees. Idk about production employees, but the rest are just fine. They even get equal shares when they employ to Huawei.
The part about developers creating a single app that runs on TV, watches and phones, that's totally possible with Android. HarmonyOS is a fork of Android and it's using the exact same mechanism under the hood.
As a Chinese user of Apple and Huawei products, I am looking forward to seeing Matter devices coming in China, since Huawei was also a member of the alliance.
The simple reason are because: They were banned to use google android as OS and not that they wanted to create 3th party OS but forced too. As US still in paranoid mode they are developing android based OS to be used by all China devices & phone so when the ban expanded to other company Harmony OS can be used by them.
US isn't paranoid, they just know very well what chinese government does :)))
@@martin0469 not paranoid? 😂 Your government even tapping to their european allies, and microsoft just come out and saying us gov is getting your cloud data without your consent lol. As if that is not paranoid? And how many budget does us spend to make negative news on china? Yeah just goole them 😁
@@tomiputra3720 And how many students did China kill in 1989? And now tries to delete this from their history??? No one can speak about this in china because they will go in prison.
ruclips.net/video/kMKvxJ-Js3A/видео.html
@@tomiputra3720 I am disgusted by you. You don’t even know how many bad things Chinese government does, comunism is sooo bad. People don’t have any right to speak there. Every single text message can be supervised and if you write somenthing that chinese government doesn’t like, they will kill your relatives or make them dissappear for example :))) or you will simply go to the prison for a lifetime. these are true stories. 99.99% of people who are acused of something there get even senteced. No human rights at all :)))
@@martin0469 have you been to china? like US is saint? destroying a country because of washing powder? lol not mention slavery and racial abuse
Huawei is also building it's own microchips along with this OS and will soon have its own platform like Apple which would allow consumers to live-streams 4K online like Apple at an affordable price.
So you have the choice of being spied on between Chinese government or the US government.
No, Chinese government or US Tech Firms
The Chinese Military or The FBI ( which they can denies their access by the way unlike the Chinese Military which)
At least regulators can mitigate Apple/Google.
Also you can use Android without Google services and preserve your privacy. Apple does a good job about privacy as well.
On the other hand we can’t do anything about the CCP/China.
@@thetaomega7816
You should listen to what Snowden said about the NSA
@CISO absolutely right
Great Videos!
Will you be doing a Video on Windows 11?
seeing your video after a really long time.
good move from them, good android interoperability with other devices seems to be lacking
I'm surprised youtube didn't recommend this to me. I watch pretty much every video on this channel
same
Don't want to advertise the opponent
@TechAltar, do you build your apps all by yourself or you have a dedicated team for that?
Hi can you please share the background music details (song name ) of story behind series, it's really good, I checked Edemski channel on soundcloud but not able to find it
The epistle of a well researched video
I just want someone to be able to replicate the connectivity of Apple ecosystem. It would be awesome.
I love TFC but The Story Behind and TechAltar are way superior videos💪💪💪
Great video and explained very well.
Also Harmony reminds me of Andy Rubin's Ambient OS
I think the Harmonies app system where only part of the apps are loaded depending on the device is very interesting, as well as the Super Device idea.
That's why they are right to call it a distributed system.
Looking Great!
Super interesting and useful video!!👍🏻👍🏻😊❤️
i have a honor 10 lite before the google ban, and i hope they will rollout harmony os to old devices
I will use my P10 until it stops working. Newer phones might look cool but their functionality is basically the same, or even less without access to Google services
Honor 10 lite unfortunately won't get HarmonyOS update, P10 will
Nothing better than waking to a new episode of The Story Behind!
This was in my recommended. And now iam subbed
This Man make that video Others dont expect. 🔥
I will just support huawei by virtue of unfair competition respect to them
Unfair competition my ass, China outright banned some foreign companies to even operate in China.
And I just want to see Huawei burn to the ground - because we can
So then US will ban companies that use Huawei software
That would be considerably more difficult to enforce than a hardware ban
@@sugaryhull9688 does that matter
If they're using open source harmony OS, the US government has no reason to ban that software.
If the software can be audited by anyone in the world, it won't have any security concerns for basis of a ban
@@shreevari reason for banned : Not an Actual Operating Systems
@linkzable more like Apple remove WeChat from the App store and they care about Wechat as much as they care about Fortnite
Thanks for your sharing
Huawei partnered with my university to give classes on creating apps for huawei devices
All this will effort will give them a remote chance to be relevant in China. Outside China Wear OS and Watch OS will become more and more dominant just like their phone counterparts.
There are millions of people in China using huawei. I mean ofc in terms of the Chinese scale its not a lot but they are still quite relevant there.
@@redditr5577 But with US Sanctions their number of users are decreasing day by day even in China.
@@AkashYadavOriginal That's true. It means they just have to do something outstanding that would capture consumers heart then. No matter what company it is as long as it is cheap and provides excellent quality people will buy it. There are also countries that look for affordable prices instead of an iphone that is almost always same every year. Surprised that people in China go crazy about iphones.
@@redditr5577 that's why I said they have a remote chance because unless what they do is something truly unique than only they can get a chance to taste success. But the chances are if they do something really good and get traction Apple and Google can easily copy them. See what happened to Tile, first Apple promoted them during WWDC. When they started getting popular, Apple copied their concept in Airtags, made it cheap. Also implemented OS level restrictions so Tile app user experience starts degrading.
@@AkashYadavOriginal the difference is that 80percent of the phone market is android and 70 percent of the android phones are Chinese, so if the Chinese phones dump android then google would struggle
3:27 Haha I see the Vanced, you must be sick of TY's shit as much as we are if not more!
I actually pay for RUclips Premium. This is a retail device I played with in a Huawei store that came pre-installed with Vanced
@@TechAltar vanced devs be like : TIS A WIN
@@tonypaca3015 HarmonyOS is different from OpenHarmony, previously known as LiteOS. The OS running on Huawei phones is not the same running on IoT devices, at least not now. Get your facts straight before accusing people being misleading.
Interesting overview but I think you are missing one important detail. Huawei will soon start selling devices with a snapdragon ship in 4g variants, so they should be able to ramp up production in that way until they can make their own chips in china.
Thanks for the video
Harmony will be wide use os. I think they will be number one os in china, but on global market im not so sure.
Harmony isn't an OS
@@GTAandApplechannel it's
@@moutasim_ayoubi Fake
@CISO where does IOS runs android apps
@@GTAandApplechannel we will see
Huawei did not set out to be a phone company. Making phones was always just an extension of their strong development. They still have a lot of chip and communications technology that they can use to go into many markets. They have always ventured into adjacent markets with weird products that just copies the established brands at first, but may or may not get bigger. It seems that Huawei has been making laptops for a while now but they have all have the same horrible keyboard and ergonomics in general, but if they keep making them they must be selling. Now Huawei is making monitors but they again they have usability problems and the reviews are bad. But what is sure is there is always something new from Huawei because they have such strong development that they can try any slightly related market without a problem. So Harmony OS will absolutely be huge in China and it will change everything because what no one else in China is making their own technology.
So many Chinese Malaysian like me are stop buying new phone for the pass 2 years, we're waiting for Huawei to make thing happen.
I am big fan of Huawei and Chinese tech production. Eager to enjoys Harmony OS.
Trump when a phone company from a rival country almost overtake their local phone company: Ohho boi...how about some sanctions to make your day
What about Google ban then. Just politics in the end.
You forgot the part where Huawei can operate as an arm by the CCP.
@@kenetholima7830 You can't compare Huawei with Google. Google Search, RUclips and Maps are threat to any strong nation. Huawei can be compared with Apple but not Google. As far as I know, Apple is not banned in China.
@@coolbuddyshivam Wrong - Huawei had a near monopoly on communication infrastructure like routers, modems and cell phone towers antennas which is also a threat to any strong nation. Huawei is to Google in the backend hardware sector, especially for 5G. The ban is tit for tat and made sense because Huawei was dumping hardware equipment as they had huge CCP subsidy which meant the other communication companies like Nokia or Ericson couldn't compete fairly and they were winning more than 60% of 5G rollout contracts around the world. People focusing on Huawei for their mobile phones is missing the forest for the tree.
@@kenetholima7830 yeah its politic, but its China policy. Not just Google but all other search engines aren't available in China.
But what Trump did is straight up playing dirty in business. Up until now, US gov still has no proof that Huawei devices are used by Chinese gov to collect data and almost everyone know Trump just did it because it's actually a big threat to its local company Apple
Huawei should work with Windows in integration and optimization for a better world.
Microsoft is an american company and will not cooperate
@@KevinFlynn_ That's why every one hates the USA government.
This kinda explains why my fingerprint sensor is not running properly anymore
I think the future is industrial and physical infrastructure connectivity, for example fully autonomous container ports.
My Huawei is the only phone that has ever lived up to the hype. 4 years later and still works as good as the day I bought it. There is only one phone company I plan on buying from in the future and if they go away, I wont turn back to the overpriced pieces of disposable garbage that most people have. I'd rather a flip phone than a apple product any day of the week.
Yeah keep lying to your self. You are pretty much saying that off brand Nike shoes are better than the real deal , just admit you are broke and you would rather have the Chinese government spy in you than work part time for a few weeks
@@ergenekon3257 The us gov isn’t spying on anybody, and besides if you use Facebook you agree tot he terms and it’s optional.
@@user-fr2fm3ri3w The US government is the best government in the world. They never spy other countries and want to give everyone in the world a better life 😅😅😅
@@oscarl2334are you really trying to say Iran turkey Russia and china are better than America? And I won’t even go to Africa and third world countries…
@@user-fr2fm3ri3w 😅😅😅
Huawei can survive in niche but now they will not be able to claim their previous empire because US banned them.
And US, India and Australia etc kicked them out from 5g trials too
China has built about 82,000 5g base stations, 70% of the world！ (most estimated by Huawei), so China is the largest market for 5g, and it is really not a big deal if some small countries ban Huawei🤔
the same happen in 4g network. China have build abut 4370000 4g base station, about 70% of the world😏
@@user-in5kc9eu8b lol u call us,india,aus small 😂
@@omegaXwolf compere to China, India is a big country?😃
@@user-in5kc9eu8b I didn't particularly say India only did I now I said us and aus as well also population is an factor as well more the population more the towers needed to sustain speed and connectivity especially if it's 5g
@@user-in5kc9eu8b Chinese population maybe higher than india for sure but india is an important Market just being stuck to one region is not wise for any company
Yup, I think you nailed it.
Now do, “how’d Huawei get here?”
Great analysis/ explanation! It would definitely be better for the consumers to have a third platform-choice!
Yes, and out of the scope of western intelligence agencies
@@nanochox As if the alternative is any better with China. If only Nokia's OS(s) was still around...
@@SirFaceFone I understand that it's not a great alternative, but it's an alternative
One question what would be the 2nd or 1st because apart from ios, as much as I hate to say it samsung hasn't fully developed an organized eco system like Apple's
I'm guessing but maybe he meant Apple, Android, HarmonyOS all 3 being some kind of ecosystem.
As different as some Android skins are, all in all Android is Android.
Android will still be number one and iOS will still be number two. Both are too recognizable, popular and big to be overthrown. They have the consumer's trust (compared to Huawei lol). HarmonyOS will be third if Samsung doesn't come out of no where and release OneOS or something, since if they did, Huawei is basically fricked. But Samsung is obviously trying to strengthen it's partnership with Google so that is 99.99% unlikely.
That is too deep for a general user like me but maybe watching it numerous times may learn a little. Thanks.
Google isn't sleeping at the wheel, they will likely add support for app fragmentation in the future.
still thinking that it was (is) an extremely short sighted decision of the USA .. all it will do it possibly delay Chinas efforts by a little .. but they will inevitably re-emerge .. as the same company or under a different name, but MUCH less dependent.
Eventually China will produce its own high end chips - because it must. They already know how to build foundries and staff them ... they will likely start by copying and building on that (as most nations do confronted by a similar problem - e.g. industrialization in Europe)
In the end .. the USA will loose influence and access, because they are not likely to move most of the production to America itself because .. Americans simply do not work for the same wages, especially not highly qualified labor.
Well , the New world power won't be China but the RSF
China is still years behind and without foreign tech they have no path past 7 nm.
America can easily do their own chip production. Half of Intel’s fabs are already in the US.
@@GTAandApplechannel what is RSF
They've been hiring ex-TMSC engineers, but a lot of of the new chinese semicon companies are scams. Also, Taiwan government told their citizens not to take China jobs.
@@ToriKo_ the Republic States of Francoria
Question now is if the app developers will jump on an OS with little niche & tight security due to the Chinese airspace
Basically Huawei is in the same position AMD was in for yrs
But AMD came through
If Huawei can overcome the hurdles
They might succeed
In the end it's better to have more choice
Creates competition and new things
I agree that it's better to have more choice. But in the case for AMD they actually created a completely new chip design that performs better than Intel. Huawei on the other hand didn't create anything new. They just made something that looks and functions exactly like Android with a communication layer that makes connecting to devices slightly easier. At the end of the day they are still reliant on Android apps ecosystem.
@@maplenerd22 they are working AOSP
Which is open source
So can't complain
And yeah OS in their case is huge blurry
Then again over time maybe they will give something either better or worse than android
Who knows :3
@@Ghostv33 - Oh yeah....there's no complaint for them using open source. But if they want to succeed in an already mature market, they need to provide something completely different and a game changing. AMD's new chip design were game changing and that's why they succeeded. When the iPhone first came to market, it was game changing with gestures and finger navigation. HarmonyOS isn't game changing. In fact, it's just a slightly different version of Android. The only thing that is different is their connection layer which makes it easier only for other HarmonyOS IOT devices.
"Love that Huawei managed to copy both the GA voice pattern animation and the Siri bubble animation for their voice assistant and just changed the colors on both"
I have never seen you copyparroting on anyone else other than Huawei.
What do you expect from a american?
I still don't think Huawei will survive for long without this, and then again, this is just an idea. Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi and others can easily deny Huawei and work together since in the specific case of Xiaomi, Oppo, OnePlus, Vivo, and the other two, they are all owned by BBK and Oppo and OnePlus are more identical twins that older and younger siblings respectively. Nothing is stopping them from making their own "BBK OS" for China or something.
They will value their reputation and working with Huawei has the possible consequence of diminishing government and consumer trust in India, Europe, and other Asian countries since no one but China really trusts Huawei.
So, basically, Huawei's future depends on other tech manufacturers using their software, but if these companies find Huawei too much a liability to the brand reputation to justify working with them, they could dismiss the company, work with their sibling brands (for BBK and it's child tech firms specifically since they are the biggest and most widely known), and leave Huawei to the dust.
Or Huawei can just find another not famous brand to work with and turn them from tiny tech startup to industry dominating conglomerate. Just my thoughts.
They can definitely do that. But making a new OS takes a long time. Android took how many versions before it is able to rival iOS. Doing that is also a big gamble, since people rely on so much mobile apps nowadays.
Huawei is as popular here in Portugal as they've ever been. No one here or in most countries has heard anything bad about Huawei to justify them stop buying their products
@@fgsaramago Ohhh. No wonder Huawei sales slumped.
@linkzable excelled in stealing Nortel tech?
When it comes to phones, they were lagging behind even with their compatriots oppo/vivo, lenovo, xiaomi just 4-6 years ago. LOL
Ultimately, ask yourself, in China, who calls the shots? Will they allow them to decline to work with Huawei altogether in the Chinese market. Think about it.
Huawei will be back and regain the premium phone market, Xiaomi, Oppo,.... will switch to Harmony OS. Apple, Android, Microsoft, Google, Intel, Quallcommand Nvidia will be vaporized by the dragon.
So can I write and run Harmony Apps on my linux PC?
We want Harmony OS. Please!
I really wana see Chinese self depending OS not depend on American. This lesson i learn from this countro versi
yo answer that question is Hauwei already start getting snapdragon chips, and waiting for TSMC to get positive results to start producing chips for Huawei : bottom line is all about business Nd money, USA delayed huawei for themselves to reach the technology they have been behind!
Not really. Im Canadian, and seeing Huawei as a competitor would be apocalyptic.
If Huawei was based in India, Japan, Korea, or ANY OTHER COUNTRY, americans would be glad to buy from them, and it would be a legit competitor to samsung and apple.
But China? The CCP already demonstrated it has the power and the will to censor people in other countries just because of politics.
Remember the league player that was banned because he supported the hong kong protests? He wasnt even chinese, and he was using an american company.
The more influence the CCP gains, the more apocalyptic the results. If you buy into the orwellian dystopia, your gonna get influenced by it.
You could argue that the US spies on you aswell, and puts backdoors on your chips. But do they censor every individual for talking about the Trail of tears? Do they try to ruin your life over politics? Do they mandate corporations to have a member of the Republican party as the board of directors?
@@honkhonk8009 u say USA does not censor? Canada does not do it? may I know when was the last time your country stand against Isreal where they killed innocent people in Palestine? lol USA is the inventor and mother of censorship other countries started learning! I am from Iran, what does your media show about Iran? a deserted country with war and enemy of USA? am I correct?
furthermore u sound like a bb learning how the technology and global Market works!
on top of all, do you have any proof, any proof, that China and Huawei is working together? (even the USA has no evidence) they have said we believe....
plus what ever China does, it does it to their own people, whatever USA does, does it for everyone on planet: to my perspective USA is more aggressive than China! muslim bands, Islam fobia, and feed it to every government on planet
@@Mr.PM1993 your comment win solid reasons that some moron with fear mongering ideology from their disgusting self righteousness government and media impose on others.
Is a relation harmony os with the crypto token harmony(one) ? By the way nice excellent explain !
This aged well.