Why Samsung doesn't sell phones in China
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Samsung's market share in China is just 0.6%. The world's largest smartphone maker no longer manufactures phones in the country either. What went wrong?
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Some corrections:
- The graph around 2:11has an axis showing 0, 0, 0, 0. It looks like we accidentally chopped off the first digits. These are supposed to be 0, 10, 20, 30.
- Yes, Japan is missing from our map. Not sure how we did that, haha.
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Please discuss about spyware and how to prevent it. Powerful spyware named Pegasus become hot topic these days.
Either ways I loved the newsletter of morning brew, and never knew how vicious was the Chinese market on Samsung in particular, thanks again for your amazing vids :)
Thank you for using the right map of India.
JAPAN ah, its busy hosting something....
So glad you remembered the password for your main channel
Bahaha, yes.Happy to be back!
@@TechAltar Curious how long it normally takes you to make videos like this? There really well put together!
@@TechAltar
But again, quality matters not quantity
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These are mini tech documentaries!
Superior content,
Best comment 😂😂😂
Haha
I went to the US for my college a few years ago. Before I left, Samsung was a popular brand and my mom was also using one of the Galaxy phones. When I came back to China, I was going to buy a new Samsung to replace my old Huawei, because those ads I saw in the US were actually pretty cool. And my old friends were all like "Samsung? Who still uses Samsung nowadays?" I was only away for two years.
I boycott all Samsung products.
@@ladaffodilion Koreans will NEVER buy a Chinese product. They will support their own Korean products. A Korean once said in my face, ''I will never buy a China product. even if one day it's better than Korean's product''. Koreans are very nationalistic and full of ego and pride. They also racially look down on the Chinese. however, some Korean will buy Apple products including Samsung's own CEO, who prefers Apple.
@@sara.cbc92 no problem for China as their domestic market is wayyyyyy bigger than Korean
@@M_Jono LOL. China is still reliant on Korean for the a lot of their finished products' components though :p
Especially the semiconductors and high quality screens. China can only produce LCD (lower quality) and Can't even dream of manufacturing 5 nm semiconductors (Which only TSMC & Samsung can produce in the entire world) as they are still struggling with 14 nm semiconductors despite Xi spending Billions of dollars in promoting Chinese semiconductor industry that eventually proven to be a complete failure.
@@PrideDefiler well chinese brands especially oppo loves to copy samsung's design nowadays. Its all they do really.
I'm a smartphone enthusiast in China, I think I have some supplement about Samsung's fail in China.
At first, I prefer a Samsung flagship (especially note series) more than Huawei or Xiaomi. I have a high requirement about screen, I like the boxy design of note series and note's big screen (as large as 6.0 inchs in 16:9 ratio), also, samsung's oneui provides massive customizing option, that allows me to make the system looks the way i want and improved interaction effeciency.
However, just little people is enthusiast, most customers don't need such a good screen, on the contrary, the strobe produced by pwm dimming of samsang can not be avoid if user don't know to use a 3rd part program. by now, built in DC dimming option is popular in all chinese domestic smartphones with OLED screen which indeedly makes user more comfortable.
Also. in recent years. charging speed and enduranceis another important point about smartphone, you know China is a country in fast develope, most people are busy, a fast charging speed and long endurance is crucial. even 60W of is just average for a chinese flagship smartphone. and chinese smartphones are highly optimized for chinese application ecology.However, samsung poorly done for both in China while iphone is good in endurance at least with the advantage of IOS.
the last reason is not about smartphone, but may be the most important. It is sales outlets. most Chinese buy smartphones in physical store. they buy smartphone from nearest store. This is the flaw of samsung, even a large city in China may have only 3 samsung smartphone stores(The example is Changsha where i live). meanswhile. huawei oppo vivo store can be found almost every block in city and even in villages. there is no reason for non-samsung fans to go so far to buy a samsung phone when they don't know what's samsung's advantage.
Actually, I think there is still room for samsung to live well in Chinse market. China has never officially banned samsung smartphone(except galaxy note7). there is still enough potential samsung user in China, samsung smartphone is still a popular topic on the internet, many people want to have a try of samsung for the good design and screen(just like me), but finally didn't because of other disavantages. I believe, if samsung makes its phone better in charging speed, battery endurance and make the UI more fit to China. many people won't refuse to buy a samsung smartphone.
As a Chinese, I hope all chinese domestic brand become better and better, And as well, I hope samsung make better smartphones and keep alive in China, whatever, more competition and more choices are always better for us cunsumers
First time try commenting in English on youtube(forgive my poor English😆)
Good feedback coming from a Chinese user.
I enjoyed reading your comment, thanks for sharing.
Well done👍
Your English is pretty good.
Thanks for the comment! Always great to hear sentiment on the ground.
I remember quite well, back then in 2013. Samsung J series and other of their mid range model is cost 50% more but spec 50% less. They get away with it because back then other competitors is quite weak.
Bought one of those J series phone, and many their low end phone too (like galaxy Y, and the likes).
But then i found out i can just buy sony's pretty nice ex-japan second hand flagship with the same amount of money.
Yes i fully agree with you. Very lousy customer service. I am wirh you, let's boycott Samsung products.
But Apple gets away with the same.
@@Colstan you sound so young. Without companie like Samsung, Apple would have just added a second camera on their phones and call it revolutionary innovation. Wake up!
@@alpha5124 Budget Samsung phones were on a whole league of its own in bad value. Expensive, barely usable and maybe 2 years of updates IF you are lucky or if the phone can even handle it.
All iPhones hold relatively well for the 5 years of support they have. Now thet Samsung has revamped their budget phones after their crushing defeat in China, they are quite the good value for the mainstream that are not tech enthusiasts.
When you price your product at double the price of a competitors with roughly equivalent hardware, in a category that's becoming commodified, what do you expect? Brand value only goes so far
How has apple tackle this then?
@@rockysingh2200 Apple has a more efficient operating system which allow them to deliver 1st tier user experience with 2nd tier hardware. This is how they can maintain a very high profit margin for such a long time.
@@rockysingh2200 I hate Apple as a company but their products are just built better, even if the tech itself is 'outdated' (like their screens).
@@rockysingh2200 also they have an ecosystem of products
You've iPhone? Get the airpods. You've MacBook? The iPhone connects so seamlessly with it
While Apple has to optimize their products to work seamlessly with their own Android manufacturers have to optimize for a dozen companies
@@TheEnthraller but with android being open source we get the benefits of custom roms and rooting and all. Personally for me that's a good thing over an ecosystem
I think they are also happy selling components to the Big 5 rather than fighting with them.
That's not how a global corporation with different business branches operate. Even if they generate money by selleing parts to others, that is a separate matter; there's potential money that they're not making by not participating in the market.
It's like saying Huawei doesn't care about how the US sanctions cut their global market share in smartphones just because they are still making money (more than previous years) in other businesses branches. Huawei provides to many telecom Carriers the infrastructure for Apple and Samsung phones to even operate on many countries. However, they'll never prefer only that kind of biz rather than losing participation in selling phones, whic generate extra revenue.
Yup, that is where Samsung is going. Component suppliers always make a profit. End-user produc manufacturer in competitive market has hard time making a profit in mature product line. LG and Sony. Samsung will supply OLED display and memory chip to Apple.
In Brazil, we used to call Samsung from Sanguessuga (leech), because of the high prices and the bad quality of the products it offers in our market.
4:18 that map doesn't have japan in it, the label is placed on the phillipines
I had to pause the video and look in the comments to see if I was the only one who noticed it lmao
Philippines was a colony of US. Japan is next !!!
2:42 "A faster and complete collapse from market leader to basically irrelevance is hard to imagine"
Nokia: I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that
business is temporary memes are forever
@@sorenkair *Freedom is eternal
Huawei has entered the chat
Motorola who?
Blackberry said "no comment"
Holy shit Apple has almost 70% market share in Japan.
Yup, here is an Apple heaven 🤣
AppleExplained made a video about that a while back
ruclips.net/video/Mh595PzMDPM/видео.html
Japan is about simplicity, and Apple suites them extremely well, along with their software etc, It's Apple paradise over there and it's amazing, in a few years they'll probably have even 80-90% Share
Kids in japan feels like iphone is a symbol,if you have an iPhone then you are a cool kid.Bunch of parents try to afford old iPhones for their children
@@linuspleasedont8861 Not really, It's actually nothing special here. I was also really surprised about it. They don't care about smartphones so much.
I love this way to distribute 3 marketing strategies into 3 layers then explain individually. Eventually, this way is so easy to understand.
1200 years or more,
They was "Slaves Race" of the Chinese Empire.
They use a "Slave's Flag" granting from China now.
They have been causative surrendered slavery for fear of the Mongol Empire.
They do not have a culture.
They do not have a religion.
They poorest in Asia.
They miserable in the bottom layer in Asia.
They have never won once.
They have presented the woman(Mother, wife, daughter) to their ruler.
They have lived and been kept as "slaves race", and have been repeated incest.
Era Africans were slaves was 700 years.
But Until 1895, Slaves Race more than 1,200 years, It was Koreans only.
ouhh that's a quite hard lesson for samsung indeed. Glad they learn from their mistakes and compete stronger than ever in other areas.
What hard lesson? They still don't deliver much good value phones in India.
@@Aditya-tt1ws true. Half the time India is shortchanged by Samsung. Their products are ridiculously overpriced as compared to other countries, not to mention Indians barely get any of the sale or added benefits that other countries get.
For the S21 ultra, customers in the US and EU got almost 60% off on exchange of their old phone along with a ton of credits that they could use on the Samsung store. Many made up for the purchase and got more than what the s21 ultra costed at release.
@@guitarboy0211 I'm from the Balkan region of the EU and I gotta say, I never was offered to give away my old phone and get a newer Samsung for cheaper. That is carrier contracts what you are talking about.
I brought in my totally broken a7 for an 80usd discount on the A52 5g. Not bad I must say. Plus, their current midrange A lines are pretty great bang for the buck. They are snappy fast with cameras almost at par to their high end lines. I'm very happy with Samsung right now. F the ccp so no china phones for me.
@@usucktoo In the US maybe, but SD powered A series phones in India cost a lot.
Title: Why samsung phones failed in China
Me: wait what?..Did they?..
Even here in South East Asia, Chinese brands are already dominating. More people buying Oppo and Xiaomi. Samsung is considered a premium brand along with Apple. Sony Xperia is virtually non-existent.
@@gamtax I'm also in Southeast Asia (Cambodia), and Samsung is getting their ass kicked by Oppo and Apple.
@@gamtax In EU, depending of broader region and relative affluence, Sammy is either a mid or a mid/premium brand. After all if you have to spend the same money as an iPhone to get the latest Galaxy, then guess which brand is more recognisable.
@@gamtax yeah right lol
@Tom G OH THAT'S SERIOUS I NEVER KNEW.... She got her face burned?...
you are missing the important part about the Note 7 instance, when it first caught fire in China, Samsung's PR jumped the gun and blamed the consumer for putting their Note 7 in microwave oven in hope to get refund. THAT was the beginning of the end for Samsung smart phone.
the official statement was made by Samsung China on September 19th 2016, stating (i am translating here) the lab research shown the note 7 that caught fire was due to external heat source.
the problem is that what you read on the English site rarely covers the entire picture (and that goes WAY beyond just note 7), you won't find anything about that statement in a English site, but if you were able to read some none English sources, it was quite obvious.
the rest of it was history, eventually Samsung acknowledged the flaw in the battery manufacture process and issued recall in China. BUT, to this very day, Samsung has not issued apology or retrieve the statement blaming customers for putting phones in microwave oven to set it on fire.
Back then I used to believe that the chinese users deliberately microwave or destroy their phone to claim for refund or to disrupt Samsung.
It was because the chinese people were portrayed as doing this for a publicity stunt.
Little did I know that years later in the S20+ era I too will be blamed of mishandling my phone to cover for the green screen of death issue.
It hurts as a fan to be told that I mishandled my phone as I took extra steps to ensure my phone is taken care of.
A UAG case, hydrogel front and back with a camera lens protector. I guess the phone is so much protected that it broke. 😂
#Nocharger_NoToSamung
In my opinion, the reason is basically same as the pc/laptop industry. I still can recall Toshiba dominated the laptop sales in the US dues to its superior craftsmanship and technology. I didn't last long until the US local tech giants like HP, Compaq and then Dell started to take over the laptop market shares. And finally when the profit wasn't enough for Toshiba to continue its business, it first quitted gave up some of its oversea laptop markets and eventually fully quitted the whole laptop business last year.
As a summary, when the smartphone market is becoming saturated, and the technology starts to reach some of its bottleneck, it will be getting tougher for those smartphone giants to keep their sale numbers.
Samsung somehow managed to behave like an American Company. “Obviously you will buy what we give you and like it “.
You are " spot on " !
When you have disposable income you can spend like Americans but most of China doesn’t even make 4000 a year to buy an iPhone it would be 1/4 of your income
Video Topic Suggestion:
China's efforts in manufacturing processors.
Would be a great video topic.. heard that their latest loongson processor can compete with zen1 chips and china also have started manufacturing pcie 4 nvme ssds with 7.5 GBps sequential reads 😳
@The Professional "classified" means stolen lol. We all know China basically steals all IP from countries who actually do the work.
@linkzable lol don't believe everything you read
@linkzable why is it concerning? more competition is better for consumers
@linkzable Which fab will produce big island GPU?
They'd gain alot more in Europe for example if they'd put good chips in EU spec devices instead of exynos. And if they'd just stop bixby and not bother with that anymore, would be alot better generally.
That's the same request from India as well
@@eddyebenezer yeah, I don't get why they're making products differently like this, sad to see such phones with potential not be at their best
Most people don't care
@@Silkl4sh yes, but that's purely because of not knowing better
@@fusionsniping3741 You don't get flagships for benchmark performance. Most people don't care. Media quality like display/camera matters the most. This is why I pick Samsung S series though they use exynos vs snapdragon.
Yes, as a Chinese, I still remember that Samsung's attitude towards Chinese consumers in the recall of note7 completely angered Chinese consumers, and later the poor quality of S8 screen makes customers who originally belonged to Samsung switch to buy Huawei and Apple instead.
i remembered there was a particular model of the samsung phone that would literally go up in flames and catch fire..
@@lyhthegreat bruh that's literally the note 7
@@lyhthegreat Funny thing is a lot of chinese people criticized that phone for having a poor battery but that particular battery was manufactured by a Chinese supplier which Samsung cut ties with. Which of course only angered them more..
@@0xD1CEas for battery explosion it's from. Samsung own fab itself.
@@0xD1CE Hypocrisy at its peak !😂
Serious detailed video after long time!
That was good ✌🏻
I remember using SAMSUNG about a decade ago, in fact, everyone in the family had one back then. What put me off was the key-in format. For a very long time, I just simply couldn't figure out the logic behind it, how to switch between numbers, Chinese characters, English letters, apostrophes... finally gave up, and got a HTC, then Nokia windows phone, finally APPLE.
Good explanation video.
But if it the US hadn't banned Huawei the story would have been much different in the world for Samsung.
Xiaomi is also taking market shares in EU rapidly at the moment.
You should make a video on 'NVIDIA+ mediatek arm based PC, steam deck and rise of Linux' on this main channel
If wasn't for the US ban on Huawei, Samsung would be in a really bad spot right now. They have the US government to thank for where they are now.
Most likely Trump received a big fee from them.
Great video it was very informative and interesting 🤩.
On short: the big part of Chinese population actually prefer the raport price quality instead of brand marketing.
I have been using Xiaomi since 2012 when they started collaborating with Orange for tablets under their brand made exclusively for Orange packages. My tablet was beating everything Samsung and Apple had then, and I could not understand why there was no such independent company on the market . The years passed and I bought my first "Note" from Xiaomi in 2018 and since then I update my devices almost every year from Xiaomi.
Thanks for detailed info and explanation! I always like to learn root causes.
Fantastic and well researched video
Glad you liked it!
I love how that golden Fold 2 has no Samsung branding at all.
It has on the hinge
Very well researched, arranged and presented. Very informative. We'll done. Thank you.
I'm half-Chinese. One year, as I was boarding the plane to go visit family in China, I was asked if my mobile phone was a Samsung one or not. It wasn't, and I was allowed to board. Feeling weird, I asked someone what that was about. He explained that Samsung phones were not allowed on the plane because they could explode.
@Dream It was the Samsung Note battery problem !
One word- *competition*
Same old thing. A company destroying itself by not focusing on customers. Saw that many times in my lifetime.
Lol.. the truth is THAAD missile. It was ALL korean products/companies failed in China since Korea bought the THAAD Missiles from the US military. It has nothing to do with note 7 phones.. note 7 phones were problem globally... you idiots get brainwashed easily. They even censored Korean entertainment and music too.
Same here.
@@aoh4905 I do believe that THAAD missile in south korea led to boycott of Korean products in China, just as someone in the comment points out that the reason Samsung become the best selling phone in India now is because of the strong anti-China sentiment. However, this is definitely not the deciding factor as to why they failed and it hardly explain why Samsung stays dead in China when most people have forgotten about the missile and most other Korean things have made a comeback.
@@incarnation151 The impact of that missile is only short-lived. As long as it is a good product, the Chinese will like it. The Chinese have boycotted many countries and many brands. Soon after, they would like to forget and still like to consume.
At present, any Samsung products can be easily bought in the Chinese market, and sales are not prohibited
Except for administrative intervention, such as Google
@@partymen In fact, China did not prohibit Google. At that time, Google had entered China for a period of time and withdrew from the Chinese market on its own because China hoped that Google would comply with Chinese laws. Google said they would only comply with US laws and subsequently withdrew from China.
12:25 loved u showed the correct Map. Keep up the good work man.
Darf man mal OT fragen, wie verschlissen deine 256 GB SSD im M1 schon ist?
I still remember how samsung failed. I dont know which year. If u mentioned 2013 i guess thats the year. Their new phone 's battery overheat and exploded. They recall phones everywhere in the world and apologize to customers. But never did a recall or show any apology to chinese market. And thats when chinese "exploded" and everyone start boycott samsung phones. That lowered all local shop income. They closed shop and service s point and butterfly effect rendered less and less customer.
we need a video for all the phones that made it in china haha
Made in China? A video will not be enough. It needs a whole series... 😂
@@gamtax not made in china, made 'it' in china.
@@monarch3724 Didn't see that "it" word. Thanks...
Insightful analysis. Good work.
Every video of yours is superb. Keep up the good work.
great video as always 👍😀
thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍😀
This is great, but would like to see the sources tho.
Weirdly enough, the situation where people kinda forgot about Samsung is quite similar with Eastern European countries . For example: In 2012-2014 everyone had a Samsung phone, because it was the next best thing you could have when you compare it with the likes of Lenovo and other bizarre brands we had back then. But at some point in 2016 everyone started to notices these Huawei and Xiaomi phones that had more or less the same specs as Samsung, but they where cheaper by 20 to 40$. As of today Samsung it's trying to win back this side of the European Market, but it's kinda hard with what competition they have here.
I’m sure I saw reports a week or so ago saying in India Xiaomi had 26% of the market and Samsung 20%. Samsung also lagged behind Xiaomi since the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2017 and it basically hasn’t changed since 🤷🏻♂️
Xiaomi is doing bad now😂😂😂.
@@damnit235 How’s Foxconn and Apple doing in India 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I left Samsung years ago when their international phones had better specs than the United States version. My Galaxy S3 couldn’t upgrade to Android KitKat because of that crap.
But the US ones have SD chips.. That's far better than exynos
What? Europeans have to keep with that crap exynos chip. And that's why I said goodbye to Samsung.
how times have changed haha
@@-ThePharaoh- Until galaxy s7, exynos was far superior. It even supported 4k60 video recording that was disabled due to the sd variant being unable to handle it. You could root and enable it no problem on exynos.
It's still the same way.
Carriers are starting to refuse service to unlocked international Samsung phones and China brands like Xiaomi on their network.
When I saw Jackie Chan at 2:00 I was like of course they would fail. They should have known the Jackie Chan curse
Awesome Research & GREAT explanation of all the information. Very2 hugh quality video 😁👍👍👍😁. Thank you & Glad i found this channel few years ago😊😁😀
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Man, I love these kinda videos. This actually makes me total geek and get to know about tech.
finally a new TechAltar Video!
Another big one - great content selection.
Anyone know what headphones the Chinese dude, Yang Wang, is wearing in this video ?
I love your content!! sometimes I want to read the articles that you point out such as the Reuters article you used in the early portion of the video. I was wondering if there is a place you link the articles you use?
hey plz make video on working of ott platforms like netflix how they are able to make 200m budget movies how they earn so much
By the money they make form subscription .
Netflix reported $2.6 billion net profit form $25 of billion revenue last year alone
O and which 300million dollar flim Ur taking about there are only 4 flim that are 300m or above and none of them are ott funded. OTT funded flims are not even in top 50 for most expensive flims
Simple. They strategically using market analysis price their subscriptions so they gain a net benefit after licensing etc.
4:15 Japan isn't on that map
You put "Japan" over the Philippines.
Japan should be next to Korea, but it's not there on this map.
@Ezekiel Aquino doesn’t make the Philippines the appropriate place to title “japan” lol
@Ezekiel Aquino the Japanese island is missing completly and the philipines, here labled Japan, are some 3000 km away.
Does that even matter? It's a F**n map for a RUclips video. Like nobody knows where Japan located?
@@victorye7150 yes
Amazing no nonsense video keep it up :D
My first smartphone was a galaxy, and soon later I found oneplus was a good replacement for it was a lot cheaper and with a clean and nice ROM. I have had two oneplus and switched to Honor (then a subsidiary of Huawei) because I want a phone with a nice LCD screen instead of LED (I am a heavy phone user). You have quite a lot of options in terms of buying a nice-looking and inexpensive phone in China. Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Redmi, Realme, Oneplus, Honor. It is a fully-competed market and the profit margin is very small, which is good for customers. Another reason is all these companies have their own customized ROMs which are designed to adapt to life in China. For instance, authentication codes sent via text message are quite often here. All those ROMs at that time can identify the code and let users copy it to clip board and paste it.
"Love that Huawei managed to copy both the GA voice pattern animation and the Siri bubble animation for their voice assistant and just changed the colors on both"
I have never seen you copyparroting on anyone else other than Huawei.
I am Chinese and still a Samsung fan. I purchase their flagship phones every year, and also tablet, earbus and etc.. I think the biggest reason they fail is because the lack of physical stores like other brands do, and also the really poor customer service. The another reason could be something related to the phone explosion years ago, they didn't treat the Chinese consumers well.
amazing video.learned a lot!
Great explanation 👍
I'm glad that I bought a Samsung product. Thank God they shifted their business .
Samsung didn't lost china.
Samsung left china😂😎
exactly
Informative
Japan was not in your map (4:19), that was Philippines you tagged.
Missed the story behind series a lot🤧
Same. Quality stuff takes time.
What's more astounding is that Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus, Realme, and Iqoo are all by BBK Electronics.
Thank god there is no unskippable 20 second mobile phone ads in this video
A like , a sub for you
Hi, I think you pointed Philippines as Japan in 4:20 thanks.
This so good. So well researched and produced
My s10 Plus will be my last Samsung phone since they removed the headphone jack and expandable memory from their flagship phones.
The s21 Fe is bringing back expandable storage
What will be your next phone then considering no flagship has headphone jacks these days
@@vedaryan334 maybe a cheaper phone? You buy Samsung because it's special, and has something unique. Otherwise just buy Xiaomi, realme or OnePlus.
@@vedaryan334 Sony Xperia? Asus rog 5? Redmagic 6? One plus nord 2? Blackshark 4? There are a lot more options bruv.
@@skyemperor2357 ik. I was asking him what he would consider. Cuz especially in the us , afaik there are only a handful of good flagships that have jack. In fact the only one i remember is the rog phone, the zenphone (no idea about this one) and xperia. And xperia phone would probably be a poor choice these days considering even after getting so many things right, they seem to underdeliver on the general user and usability.
Blackshark and Nubia are there ig but idk about them much
I am fascinated by the smartphone market. I hope someone does a survey of what regular people decision making process is when it comes to buying a smartphone at least for the bigger markets like usa china india , some countries in Europe and maybe korea too
I could answer south east asia.
South East asia is NOT rich.
Many person didn't have computer, and phone is the only personal electronic device. So they want big screen to watch movie.
Big battery is also important because public transport or motorbike is the common transportation method.
Other than that, of course, not laggy CPU. big storage.
Very well researched Video.
Amazing video!
Purely from a Chinese consumer's perspective, they offered maybe 10% more of a phone but charged double than Chinese brand phones (Xiaomi, Huawei, OPPO, etc.). Then the horrible handling of the whole Note 7 explosion PR crisis was the final nail in the coffin.
What can we say, it's super easy to make low cost phones when you're essentially part of the Chinese government, like Huawei is, and then have unlimited access to basically slave labour. 🤷🏻♂️
@@rickybojangles162 Whatever makes you happy bro
@linkzable Oh educate me PLEASE. Tell me how "China government SUBSIDIZE all its companies“ ：）
Where can I get that t-shirt?
Wtf! Why is Japan not even in the map at 4:19 lol🤣
So informational! Wondered why Samsung isn't prominent in China a while ago, my brain just shoved it off as another political torture but now I know. Awesome video!
I really like how Samsung learned from their mistakes.
In fact, Samsung receives way more political support than other cellphone brands in China.
@@haijiazhu3148 so are Korean pop arts and artists.
Actually there are just very less politics involved when it comes to consumer behaviours. Even Apple from America still achieves tons of sales despite the Trade War between US and China
@@mrksgf3308 Western democracy, by definition, makes the whole country political, all people amateur politicians, life politics dominated, and election a spectator sport.
@@landmark8061 blocked? every? are you every K-pop stars? Hmm, I wonder...
The thing he talk about Samsung in India definitely the same as Indonesia and it works!
Thanks for the information ℹ️
It is because Samsang products is below substandard as well as very costly as compared with that of China.
Always a great episode coz of strong research. Somehow Samsung has started to lose in India also. I'd like you to make an episode on India.
Price had been a factor !
@@btiger9495 and specs too
Okay fine. I will finally subscribe to morning brew. I would love to read them in other languages, ecspecially German with some German specific topics.
Was it me or did Tech Altar miss a friday checkout 2 weeks back?
4:16, why's the map not have Japan on it lol, that's the Philippines you've marked
China also pushed Huawei since a few years ago.
And there is the THAAD incident, when China got mad at Korea (because they thought Korea was letting the U.S to spy on them) and boycotted most Korean products
It's not that they thought, it's the fact. Korea said US will not enable the spying capability but who's going to believe that?
@@TSRHelios lol
Think about logic here.
Both the U.S and China have hundreds of spy satellites which can record live data with its cameras.
The U.S did not need to build another spy base in the middle of Korea, they can spy far away just fine.
And why would the U.S risk their reputation if they were really going to build a spy base?
Now, let's see why China made all this fuss just to stop Korea's THAAD project. If you know, China is also the only country who made all the fuss... Anyways, if you've seen their media, all of their news were simultaneously frightened that their missiles may not be able to hit Korea anymore. So, their real main reason was that they didn't like Korea being safe from their missiles anymore. If u don't think so, then go search the news yourself.
And in some ways, the U.S actually did a good thing. The project wasn't installing high tech missiles or giving Korea nukes, it was about protecting Korea from nearby dangerous countries like China and North Korea, who were sending spy planes and firing small rockets for target practice at that point. THAAD project was only for defense, not offense, and that means peace. Unlike China's media claims, THAAD couldn't target their military bases, they only target active engaging missiles on air.
Now, I ask you: Who's going to believe China's false claims about thaad?
@@evenstar9943 perfect explanation!
@@bipolarman9246 Thanks :)
Chinese politics, strong national pride for Chinese products, and much lower prices... Heck I've been using a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 for 4 years and it's probably the best phone I've ever owned.
This was very informative. Thanks!
I am using m51 well satified compare to mimax2 and othrs I was using thanks Samsung also previously I used j8 both are working but what happened to mimax gone not working state
Did you know that Samsung phones in China have Snapdragon instead of Exynos?
TechAltar: "Rural Consumers simply got picked from their hands by SCRAPPY LOCALS like oppo and Vivo"
Me: Seems like Samsung didn't know their consumer 🤔
I have been using my mi max3 for some years now. still going strong and relevant with taking acceptable photos and a very good battery life. I have passed the phone onto my mom. She is using and enjoying it to date.
phone business seem like wars between companies. would make for a good tv series
Relationship between South Korea and China became quite sour rapidly during the past few years. Even more so than what is shown on global media. Both nations actively boycott each others products quite zealously.
Theres a video on "Countryballs Explained" which shows issues like this between China, Korea, Japan etc...
Wasn't there a planned Chinatown on a historical site that pissed off the Koreans?
@@backleft4917 makes me feel less sorry for the flood victims there now to be honest
@@KyoushaPumpItUp Yeah and they claim that Ancient Korea's history (Goguryeo) as theirs.
@@KyoushaPumpItUp That's quite stupid! It's not the ordinary Chinese that make foreign policy decisions.
Also, if you think somehow the Chinese are more jingoistic than there East Asian counterparts, you are in for a rude awakening. No one can match the South Koreans in their jingoism and racism (especially against South Asian and South East Asian countries).
I chose a new mobile phone last year, saw a lot of brands, and finally chose Xiaomi Mi 10ultra 12 + 256.This phone has all my requirements for a flagship phone. Snapdragon865, ufs3.1, lpddr5, dual speakers, X-axis linear motor, 120Hz refresh rate, 120W fast charging, excellent photography and exquisite appearance. and the price is cheap (5999rmb). I also watched Samsung note20, but the price made me feel ridiculous (12 + 256 9199). For me, Samsung's machines are not worth so much money. They just set a high profit margin because they have to spend a lot of money on advertising.
Most young Chinese who have a certain understanding of mobile phones will not choose Samsung. People who don't know much about mobile phones, but want to buy an expensive mobile phone (Yes, I mean girls...), usually choose iPhone.
In fact, Korean cars are the same in the Chinese market. In the middle and low-end market, Korean brands have no advantage in price and configuration compared with Chinese brands. Compared with Japanese brands, the quality, technology and brand value of Korean cars are not comparable. The luxury car market in China is basically the world of German cars. Basically, in all price segments, Chinese users have no reason to choose Korean brands（ Only from my personal rough observation of China's auto market, I know that Korean cars sell well in the West and Australia.) In fact, Chinese people are very pragmatic. When they spend money, they usually don't think too much about things other than products. The product itself is the most important.
"Yes, I mean girls" LMFAOOOOOO
Strangely, StrangeParts was able to assemble an S9... in Shenzen.
..... I don't think Samsung actually lost any market shares in China. This conglomerate simply dominates in semiconductors, displays, sensors and components. That's not even mentioning batteries and the huge scale of thin glass manufacturing that applies for everything electronic today. Hyundai-Kia declined in unit sales but their profit is actually increased by parts sales to other automakers. Samsung pulled out of China because that was their plan to let Chinese smartphone manufacturers to compete with each other, with or without Samsung parts inside their smartphones.
Samsung's build quality is unparalleled, I had dropped my Samsung from the staircase of a building down two floors. I just went down and picked up the phone and it looked exactly brand new. Still using the same phone more than a year later, with no issues whatsoever.
I didn't know it was possible to have a phone screen that doesn't crack on you within a year before I switched to the note 20
It might be a bomb
This video seems like it's talking about how isolated Chinese are compared to the rest of the world
Remember Samsung’s explosive phone? Samsung recalled all Galaxy Note 7, but they did not recall in China.
f korean brand
12:15 Which mobile is that?