The Flip is not the Fault: the truth about flipping the golf club
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2019
- I'm BACK with the latest in my ongoing series about "faults" that are not actually swing faults. Nobody wants to flip the golf club, but if you're flipping, it's almost certainly because you have to.
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Best video addressing the cause for flipping on RUclips.
You have a gift of explaining cause and affect! Love your style of teaching
Great to see you back on RUclips preaching the truth. It is amazing what the subconscious mind knows about where the club face is and all of the weird things it does to try to find target.
Looks who's back!!!!! Good to see monte!
Good video. Another thing is that all players flip the club at some point, nobody holds on to their wrist angles all the way through the swing. It’s making sure that point happens at the correct time along with a few other key body positions.
You can't just stop doing the so called "bad move" because the bad move is necessary to hit the ball decent. Get to the cause and the bad move disappears! Great video Monte, you're the best!
Glad to see you back on RUclips, Instagram doesn't give you enough time on the soapbox!
Caught Monte for a lesson when he was in Phoenix for a clinic. It was awesome. He is the MAN!
Glad to see you back Monte! Great video!
Great production quality, thanks Monte!
Great advice, thank you. The last segment about proper ball position for the driver may solve one of my big driver issues. I've been getting stuck periodically on my drives and with longer clubs. Just couldn't get comfortable and those times when I had a really good swing and sweet spot hit, I was pushing it far right. Time for me to get to the range and see how things feel with different ball positions for my longer clubs.
My ball position creeps back slowly over a period of months. One thing I do that stops that is hit the range and set up one club shaft inside my left heel extending along the ground to where the tee is on the ground so I know the ball position is off the left heel or just inside it. Then I just hit half and 75% shots grooving the ball position not really worrying about anything else and automatically I start compressing again instead of flipping. Once a week is all it takes at the range to prevent the slow creep
Great vid. Second fault is my problem have you any drills to link the body and arms thanks. I followed gg which worked for a while but doesn't anymore
great video- Its counter to what many people teach, hence why most people slice or fade off the tee even after coaching from a pro. I'm fighting a snap hook on my driver draw hits this early season, I was told to just swing my hips faster, but that's not the fix.
I like to hear what Monte has to say. He and Mark Crossfield are two pros that know the golf swing and do not bow down to conventional wisdom. All golf pros should address the cause and not the symptom.
Love the way this guy thinks about the swing.
I really like your explanations and understanding. One big things that you point out that when someone says keep your head still, its. not just as simple as not moving your head because of all the parts connected to it. On this, I am #2. I have already rotated my lower body to its limit, which is past 45, and I don't see a way to keep rotating. What is your fix for. that, how to practice that?Thanks.
Explained very well!
great video... you show how there are many different type of swing methods there are
Just shows us that you cant take one move in isolation. The swing is a sequence and all of the pieces of that sequence must work together. Not only that, there are many variations of the sequence so the hard part is finding the pieces that work for you.
Golf is hard. But it's so fun!
Well said.
Monte has such a great eye, mind, and understanding of the TRUTH about the golf swing. I would bet that if you want to 100 instructors with a flip, 99/100 would treat the symptom (the flip), and not the disease (the clubface)... Monte gets it.
Thanks man ... been flipping for years now and almost decided to give it up .... used to mash the ball .... 5 iron was always 200-210 range now it’s 150 if I hit it right ..... will try these drills .... might be putting ball too in front of myself..... thank you
Sounds familiar. I hate the game now.
Great insight, thanks.
lol, love the sound effects!
This is great thanks
Interesting about the ball position 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I am the first golfer 10 degree in to out.... How would suggest straightening up 👍🤔
This is spot on
Great lesson
Color wise, the golf trousers Belang to the T-shirt like a slice to a single handicap. 😉 Bruno Swiss
yeay hes back
Thanks for this video,yes, I agree there has to be a cause for the flip, but in your video I see only one offered and that is swinging from the inside/ having the ball too far back in the stance which is effectively the same thing
The flip is exactly where my golf swing has been for the last 15 years, lessons from over a dozen instructors hasnt given me a fix, many seeing I am swinging in to out and believe that getting the swing on a neutral plane will fix the issue, however, they assume the flip is a consequence of the in to out, whereas in my case, and I suspect many others, is that its a reaction/fix to the flip.
Personally, Im able to adjust my swing plane from +5 to -5 in a matter of a few swings, but it doesnt address the hands turning over in the swing(many believing it will just fix itself) and if I go for a more neutral plane then the ball just goes further left, even after months of persistence and hence just to play golf without going hard left every time one eventually starts swinging towards the right. With every swing i try to "hold off" but can only swing at about 80% and manage to do this, this gives me about 170 yards with the driver! Is there another reason, other than the body stalling/falling to the back foot for a flip?
I love to flip. Flip my trail hand under my lead hand. And aggressively pass my lead hand with my trail hand. Not sure if that is conventional wisdom but it seems to work for me. And maybe that is not what I am doing at all but it just feels like that is what I am doing.
Ball placement is extremely important for sure. However David Duvall; maintaining his golf posture until the end of his swing had the answer to how to focus on swinging the handle; the counter weight to the club head .
How?
By simply implementing the flipping motion with his right hand at the very start of his down swing to the finish of his swing.
This one impetus to his downswing dynamically shifts his weight and places the head of the club lagging behind following the path of his hands to the optimal impact of his hands ahead of the club head. The momentum of the head of the club then moves around his body to finish his swing automatically.
Believe me at 73 I now know to Grip it and Flip it no matter what all the PGA teachers teach. However bear in mind it is a wristy move Cheers
Good video.. HD camera.. nice
So a video on how to stop coming too inside...anytime I try to fix it I start shanking
You got to get that right elbow back in front of the right shoulder and and try and do it as early as possible in the downswing.
Almost nobody’s too inside. We’re over the top and flip just the right hand like a slap, not rolling. And it’s impossible to stop! Thx
Most common cause imho: The pelvis slide towards target. You can't rotate from there so you have to flip the forearms.
So rotate the pelvis and keep the club head stable! Plus it's a lot easier on knees, hips and spine.
That’s a good one.
If it slides too much possibly. You can watch any tour pro player and see that all of them slide their pelvis towards the target right at the start of their back swing. That's just clear fact with all the video analysis available today.
It’s not a pure lateral slide. The pelvis moves down and forward and only a few inches. If it’s a pure lateral slide and gets to be more than 5/6”, then it’s trouble.
Then...how do we learn not to come so much from the inside? I already have a ball position way forward to the left but keep coming too far from the inside!
The man, the myth, the legend!
Exactly what I do wrong in number two and three. This is a great video.
Wish I had this advice 20 years ago, but better late than never.
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I wonder if it was possible for you to make a video on how to do it correctly because I believe that you have to hit from the inside but like you say I am a person that would have hit 400 yards right but I would like to see if you can show one where you are more connected with the club.
Not sure about all this hitting from the inside talk man. It all seems to be nonsense.
This video plus a dude on instagram hogansbooklied really helped me think of the swing as hammering a nail. Showing some love to the hands like in number 1 in this video I think. I was always told downswing with the left hip like someone has a string attached to the left hip and the hands and its wrong man, just causes back pain, flipping and slicing.
In that breaking par video I just released, I credit that new driver on a rope to one coach in South Africa smacking me upside the head regarding ball position (number 3 in this video - instant fix) and the other credit is hogansbooklied for his work on prioritizing the club face.
This video by monte is superb in explaining wtf is going wrong and is spot on
@@GolfSidekick I am going to send my swing onto Robin Mathew Williams. I am going to take everything you have said on board. And I am really grateful for your help. I will let you know what Robin thinks of my swing I hope he doesn't get a heart attack trying to analyse it. 👍
This video should have more than 30 likes .... 1 year after it's posted. I'm confident i'll see many flippers on the course this year.
Timely video...looking forward to next weekend; wait til you see my vomit-inducing swing....
Are those gauchos?
Very interesting since my Golftec coach wants me to take the club way inside as I take it away. This causes the club head to be way behind my hands on the downswing. The result, I immediately hit pushes and pull hooks.
Also, I think people believe that the hands are active during impact and that the flip-slap is the proper action. ?
You are not getting what he is saying. A flip comes from the need to stall. The hands will slow down and the club head will catch up on every swing. If it doesn't, then you are letting go of lag early. He is talking about completely stopping the body, and allowing the clubhead to catch up. Technically a flip in the sense of the word flip as we know it, is when the butt end of the club stays pointed at the ball for too long (hands come out club head goes under plane ) causing the club to do a backflip, or "flip" rather than a release, to get the clubhead back to the ball. In both examples he gave this is happening, just with different causes. Both require you to stop the body to allow this necessary "flip" action to take place. What he is saying in this video is simply stop working on trying not to flip, and figure out the cause. In other words go get a golf coach you trust and build a solid golf swing. Golf tips don't work. He is saying if you work on "don't flip" in your swing, it will get worse. Take RUclips golf instruction as entertainment and nothing more. You can not build a swing with someone who can't even see you swinging. You have an element called " feel vs real" in golf that needs to be addressed through a good coach. Good luck my friend.
A monte video...on RUclips?!?
“Flipping” is not a rotation of the club face, it’s the opposite, it’s a cupped left wrist at impact. Like a scooped shot. I THINk. Could be wrong who knows anymore.
Please just tell us what we are supposed to do right .
Most people wouldn't call that a flip. I would call a flip the left hand bending upward before impact creating added loft. Good video but I would call that hand rotation not a flip.
Exactly. This guy doesn’t seem to know what a flip fault actually is. A flip is a cupped left wrist at impact, usually causing a chicken wing lead elbow after impact.
Good luck telling , Flippers , flipping is not the problem.
Everyone knows flipping sucks.
Only solution is the inside quadrant of the golf ball; not the back of the ball.
The open clubface , slams square like a door on fluid hinges, (its how the club is designed) when the torso rotates and intent is the inside quadrant.
He's not saying flipping doesn't suck, he's saying it's not the actual cause of the problem, it's the result of other bad stuff before it.
@@GolfLeagueTracker I get that but Im saying all that other stuff is caused by the same thing as flipping.
The wrong intent causes all the other stuff, that leads to flipping.
Working on each of those other stuff wont lead anywhere but frustration until the intent is correct.
Your advice is how people become flippers in the first place. Coming too far from the inside. If you’d given thousands of lessons you know that and want to learn something.
@@dtgps The job of an instructor is to determine the root cause of your major miss, and fix that. Coming too far inside is one of the causes of flipping. So if it's determined that that is why a player is flipping, then you fix the issue with coming too far from the inside. Of course, why a person does that is cause by something else.
@@GolfLeagueTracker I said the intent needs to be to impact the ball the inside of the ball , not the back of the ball.
There is no way to hit the inside of the ball by taking the clubhead away from the ball to the extreme inside.
On contrary, most slicers take club away way inside and then have to come OTT to get to the outside of the ball. Outside to in path for a slice or pull.
Dont analyze it, try it. Your only intent is to impact the inside quadrant of the ball.with the clubface..... now let your subconscious find the ball position and body positions to get it done.
Why can’t golfers just focus on lag tension and rid ourselves of the flip? Seems pretty easy really
DeAnna Anema Care to explain? I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Google is your friend
@@deannaanema319 What a piece of shit of a human you are. Thanks for assuming I didn't google "lag tension" before asking you to explain more. Clearly you haven't googled it because there's nothing coherent about it. There's a shitty 1 minute video that explains nothing, just uses the term. I thought I'd ask you because you seem to have it all figured out. To use your own words it "seems pretty easy really"...care to explain more, or are you going to just continue acting like a fucking jackass?
You didn’t really give any solutions
99% of all instructors would tell you to keep the body turning, Monte cuts thru the BS and shows you how to attack your swing
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With all due respect, you couldn’t be more wrong. Flipping is terrible because it is an incredibly inconsistent motion. Flipping will cause a severe hook/draw as a result of flipping/throwing the club. If the writs are loose, the club will naturally square because the TORSO is also turning.
Good job completely misunderstanding wha I said. Everyone else did. Flipping is not the fault. You have to address the fault that causes the flip.
Monte Scheinblum You think over rotating is the fault?
Stand on your tip toes next time so the point of the video doesn’t go over your head...
@@chrisschneeweiss2007 Lol, my bad, but seriously what is the fault that causes the flip?
There are many, I address a few of them in the video.
7 minutes to say move the ball up in your stance lol 👎🏽
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