I love them all. I shopped Silverado ZR2 (76k), Sierra AT4X(82k )and AT4 (72k), Silverado High Country (71k) and Finally LTZ Silverado w/ Z71 package (64k). My first choice would have been AT4X but would have settled for the AT4 and almost bought it but dealer was still stiff arming me with the Trade for my 22 Tundra. I went with the LTZ since it was the most affordable AND the dealer gave me what I paid for the 22 Tundra a year prior AND I got 2.99% APR AND there was no “add ons” no “mark ups” not a single fee other than 300.00 dealer fee AND I got a life time powertrain warranty that also includes transmission. It was the deal I was seeking and couldn’t say no to. I got everything I wanted and saved thousands over the other deals. GMC Sierra is awesome but it is for the more “luxury” buyers. If money didn’t matter I would have the AT4X period. Like the general pool of truck buyers though, money does matter and therefore I’ll always have the Chevy. The more you spend on it the less you’ll want to “use” it anyway. The Silverado will work, the Sierra would shine like a Diamond in my drive way while I worship it’s beauty and pridefully pretend like I drive on mountains made of gold.
@@bobcook8576 Yes I agree. Got everything I want and need and it’s a fantastic value. The trade deal and financing rate it what put me in the Chevy had it been Sierra I would have been just as content. I don’t mind a little chrome. Both current set ups look great to me with the refresh and interiors are right where they need to be. Thanks!
I just traded my 23 tundra in for a 23 at4 LZ0.....so what made you trade up? Not happy with the tundra? I was really disappointed in the tundra once I actually got to test drive the at4 and see it in person.
@@corydelbiondo5773 Well it’s a bunch of little things that add up to a desire to be back in a GM truck. The seating position is better and more upright. The hood doesn’t blind me with glare from the sun. I love the radio controls on the back of the steering wheel. The remote start stays on when doors unlocked. The radio also stays on when truck is turned off till I open the door. The auto start stop button is easily within quick reach. Heated steering button is ON the steering wheel. Infotainment system is tilted towards me so it’s easy to see without glare. Larger windshield for better visibility. “Auto 4x4” for those snowy days where you don’t need 4x4 all the time. Tighter turning radius making it easier to park in a pinch. Also option for V8 or Diesel. List goes on. Metal bumpers instead of plastic. Rear bumper steps. Tow hooks. It’s almost like GM has been building trucks for over a hundred years or something.
@@josephkraft5640 I had a pontiac grand prix years ago that was a piece of crap and part of the reason I switched to Toyota. My wife's 14 4runner and my previous 07 tundra were tanks compared to my 23 tundra. I keep my vehicles a long time and GM definitely did a better job or Toyota just dropped the ball all together. Crossing my fingers that by switching back to GM I'm not sacrificing too much reliability. Everything you mentioned and a few other things are what I also agree on. Add that to the hideous front end I felt I had to spend thousands on a lift, tires and paint match front end. My 23 at4 looks great and needs nothing as it is. I do think the cameras were better on my tundra. I still can't believe I bought a brand new tundra then traded it in 5 months later. That's not the kind of person I am and I paid a pretty hefty stupid tax but I love this at4 I don't want to stop driving it lol
The price is because it doesn't have the tail gate, the power steps, pretty sure his truck doesn't have adaptive cruise. The High Country can be equipped to be nearly as expensive as the Denali Ultimate. If he had more equipment to make it closer to the Denali the price would probably be in the $74-76k range. The High Country is more in line with the standard Denali. I was looking at both. Actually bought a 23 Ultimate yesterday. Can't pick it up till sometime next week probably. Have to get up with my insurance company and since I wrote a $85k check they wanted to make sure I had money for that check to clear before handing the truck over lol. I wanted the 6.2 though really and its the Duramax. Its pearl white which it seems they all are.
Hey Tim, as always, love your videos. I had originally ordered a 2022 refresh GMC Sierra Denali (with Max Towing) and the Duramax. What GMC neglected to tell me until just before the truck arrived (6 month wait) that I couldn't get the Max Towing on the Denali ... so I walked away from that truck (a bit pissed). In Sept of last year, I ordered a 2023 Chevy Silverado High Country, with the Duramax and Max Towing. After a month, I inquired about the order .. and the dealer told me that Max Tow was on constraint, and they had no idea when I would get my truck. So ... I promptly cancelled that order. So frustrated with GM, I finally started to look at other options .. and finally picked up a used (very low mileage) 2019 Ford F150 Lariat, with the 3.5L Ecoboost and Max Towing .... I couldn't be more happy .... it is meeting my current towing needs. Yeah, it's not new .. but it was also almost $25K-30K less than what I was going to spend on the GMC or Chevy. So, this Ford will suit my purposes for the next few years until either GM gets their act together, or I totally fall in love with Ford and order a new F150. Time will tell.
I just traded my 23 tundra TRD off road premium in for a 23 Sierra at4 LZ0. I should have listened to your advise more about the tundra as you were spot on. It's a good truck but lots of cheap plastic, crappy infotainment, lack of easy bed access. I'm not one of these guys that constantly gets new vehicles. I keep mine for 10 years minimum. My last truck was an 07 tundra that I owned for 13 years. I felt I had to add too much in aftermarket items to my 23 tundra to make it feel like a real truck. The quality and fit and finish of the at4 feels night and day better for now. I love the LZ0. I paid a stupid tax getting rid of the tundra so soon but I'm so much happier.
I really do think a more Apple's to Apple's comparison would be the regular denali, not the denali ultimate to the high country even though they're both the top of the trim levels for their brands.
Tim, the Denali and High Country are more of a true comparison. The Denali can be ordered with what is now called the Reserve package (once called the ultimate package) which includes 22” Wheels, Review camera mirror, HUD, power assist steps, adaptive cruise and power sunroof for 5k. Both Denali and Ultimate have the adaptive ride control. I believe the High Country can also get adaptive ride control.
Another super fun video, thanks Tim. I much prefer the exterior styling of the GMC so I’d go that way. Although, I would get a lesser/different package (off road focused), but maintain all the features if that makes sense. Love the in-line diesel engine. For now, as I continue to drive on top of places like Imogene pass, Hurrah pass etc. I’ll stick with the power wagon… which incidentally does have the camera, rearview mirror, adaptive cruise control, heated/ventilated seats, large screen, upgraded audio system, etc. But that GMC sticker price, could likely not get passed that. I feel very fortunate I paid a reasonable price for my 2021 PW, which I ordered November 2020 (6K under sticker discount). If I ordered the same truck today, roughly $13,500 more (my discounted price vs. todays MSRP). High end trucks today is not affordable to the average working person as you mentioned, that is for certain.
It’s terrible gmc prices and the way they pack options is ridiculous if u want an at4 with the deisel it’s gonna be 65k easy u can get a lt trailboss with a deisel for 60k loaded nicely
As much as I love my ‘19 PW, the 14 mpg I’m averaging right now on a 80 mile round trip commute is not great. The 3.0L Diesel is so temping - but so is an F150 PowerBoost. But the Ford seems boring coming from the PW. Sierra AT4 might be the answer for me. I do tow a 14’ enclosed trailer (dual axel cargo converted to a minimalist camper/dirt bike hauler) which the PW handles easily.
@@david935plum yes sir, my line of thinking aligns with yours for sure. I’m around 11mpg in town driving and 14.5 mpg at 75mph. But man I have owned a lot of trucks over the years (I’m 57), and this one is my absolute favorite. Of course all my previous trucks were diesels as I had towing needs. Now I only to my 3500lb little off road camper. But man that diesel mileage…tempting
I bought an Ultimate yesterday and they had 3 AT4 all had the Duramax and they weren't much cheaper then what I paid $85k. I think the AT4s were all in the $75k range. I really liked the colors they offer that you can only get with that trim. They had the tan and a brown and I think the other was red. Mine is the Ultimate and its pearl white with the Duramax. The Chevy dealer down the road Jud Kuhn had a few Silverados that were the Black Widow modded trucks think they were that were $95-100k each.
My 23 LTZ has HUD, adaptive cruise, camera mirror, I’m not missing a button next to the who farted button, and my wireless charger works and it stickered less than the High Country. Only thing the High Country has over the LTZ is colored seats.
Another great video as always. My problem is I don’t want that much luxury in a truck. I want to be able to use it like a truck and not feel bad about beating it up. To me the perfect trim is LT. You get your leather you get your GPS and that’s all you really need. I’ve always liked the look of the GMC better so for me to come down to price. If I could get the GMC pretty close to LT trim and Price I would go with it.
I agree with you to a degree. Some of this luxury is completely over the top. However, like Tim's said before, if you're gonna keep a vehicle for a while say at least 10 years features like heated seats and steering wheel do come in handy. Last thing you want to do is having regrets a couple of years into ownership.
@@SuperSnakePlissken Yup, I only like leather because it's easier to clean and when you have kids and a dog that comes with the territory. It doesn't mean that I'd need fancy stitching on it though. Nothing wrong with a Tundra, they're solid.
@@IamGroot786 Exactly why I prefer leather. Easy to clean and especially with our dog its as simple as vacumming it up. The fibers in cloth seats hold onto that dog hair and its a nightmare to get off.
So another comparison point for the viewers. I recently purchased a 2023 GMC SIERRA SLT With the LZ0 diesel for $66K. It has the X31 off road package, multipro tailgate, spray-in bed liner, 3.23 rear axle ratio, 20” all terrain tires. It has a similar interior layout as the High Country Silverado. Functionally it works the same as the GMC DENALI ULTIMATE but does not have; carbon bed, digital rear view mirror, heads-up display, upgraded seats, upgraded suspension. Over the first 2300 miles I am averaging 27 mpg. So the viewer needs to decide whether spending an additional $14K for the DENALI is worth the extra cost for better creature comforts?
I have the Ultimate with the 3.0 diesel and I get between 26-29 mpg on the highway. It’s crazy to go 600+ miles before I have to fill up. About 22-25 only my regular usage.
In a 1500 I would buy the GMC. It’s a better look overall with a few upgrades over the Chevy. In the HD segment I would only buy the 2024 High Country, it looks great.
Great video. My one issue is the 2 trucks are not equal. You took a base High Country and compared it to a fully maxed out Ultimate. The High County is missing a lot of the features that support that large price difference. Smaller wheels, stationary RBs, HUD, full surround camera system, rear camera mirror, power moonroof, suspension is different etc. I like all your videos. I appreciate all the work you put in to these. This one just bugs me lol.
I think I actually prefer the Chevy, the gmc is a loud, look at me type vehicle and I’m not about that. I actually think the sweet spot for the gm and chev line is the elevation/rst packages. You get all the critical features and a great looking truck. Every powertrain is available and they can be optioned well. I don’t feel like either the Denali ultimate or high country are very practical- low payload, very expensive and I wouldn’t want to get them dirty. Good video
I agree. I don’t like chrome. Picked up an RST 3.0 LZ0 with all blacked out badging and tube steps, black 20” wheels. Looks really sweet….of course my RST ran $66k!
@@garrybillick3979 how do you like it so far? I really like the 6.2 I’m not as sure if the diesel would be a powertrain I like and the price of diesel is insane now
While I like the Danali's interior the best I would probably go with the Silverado for the price plus I actually prefer the exterior styling, it's a bit sleeker looking.
What have you thought about the seat comfort in the high country? I assume they are similar between the high country and regular Denali. Wondering how much of difference is between their seats and other brands.
I got Z71 LTZ with technology package and got multi flex , heads up , sunroof, rear view and bed view camera .. except high country badging and hell of the deal I was looking at high country to buy and they were not equipped with these features so don’t think buying high country or denali you’re going to get it all..
I was going to get a 2022/23 Silverado but due to the dealership shortcomings (lack of communication mostly, plus wanting $2k to put the order in) I ended up canceling that and ordering a Sierra 1500 Denali (not Ultimate). I don't want a sunroof in my truck. Which removed the Ultimate from consideration. Added the technology package, and went with the 6.2L v8 (hella FUN!). Took about four months for it to get into my hands with ALL the features included. Nothing removed due to chip shortages. 😁 I really do like the interior styling for the top GMC trim levels. Silverado is the same across all trim levels (IMO, fail on Chevy side). The better suspension in the Denali line was also a draw for me. I don't go off roading with my truck, so the improved road ride quality is greatly appreciated. I ended up going with a lease on the new truck to get my payments even lower than for the 2020 Silverado LTZ Z71 I traded in. Changed insurance companies and my total cost is about $200 less per month for the Denali. At this point I cannot see ever going with a lower trim level truck. With the issues I faced with the Chevy dealership (I'm not the only person) and how great the GMC dealership was, I've switched. While the Chevy trucks are lower sticker price, I fully believe that you get more truck value with the GMC trucks. Especially with the Denali trims. I also appreciate how the quality of people working at the [local] GMC dealership just seem to be at a higher level of professionalism when compared with the Chevy dealership. While there ARE good people working at the Chevy dealership, there are ones that also fall short. My last two truck purchases at the Chevy dealership were not of the same level (sales person) as the first one I went through.
Great video Tim! I am interested in the Chevy, but have a few questions. You mentioned the suspension in the GMC is a Magnaride. Is the High Country suspension, the same suspension in the lower trims? Also, you mentioned the GMC had triple paned something which I assumed keeps the truck interior quieter. Is there a big difference in cabin interior sound?
The High Country 1500 is available with four different suspensions. It comes standard with the Z82 tow package that most GM trucks have, but is available with Z71 off-road suspension, NHT max towing suspension, or Z45 adaptive (not magnetic) ride control suspension. Denali and Denali Ultimate 1500s come only with Z45. They all share the triple-sealed (two sets of weather stripping on the door, one on the body) inlaid doors, so the only major noise differences come down to tire choice.
Also worth noting, as of the 2023 MY, for the Silverado, the only way to get adaptive suspension is to option the 22" wheels, which is dumb since they kill the ride. The Denali offers Magnaride standard, meaning you can pair with 20" wheels. Otherwise you can pretty much option them about the same. The GMC is a bit quieter. And yes, you do pay for those upgrades vs the Chevy. Especially when it comes to dealer discounts, which can make the Chevy considerably cheaper and a better value.
High Country seems like a better value but the Delani exterior and interior are so much nicer. Ultimate is probably a step above high country. Whats the price difference between Delani and high country? Delani and at4 are great trucks. But im having trouble pulling trigger with all the engine problems I read about.
There is a huge difference between the 2 in equipment that makes up the price difference. If the High Country he has was maxxed out on options it would be more like $75k range. The Ultimate has a lot that High Country doesn't. I just bought an Ultimate yesterday. I was just going to look at a couple dealers that are right next to each other and I never left the GMC dealer for the Chevy across the street. One of the things was I wanted the Ultimate interior color since High Country I think can only be had in black or blue interior.
I have a 21 high country with a 6.2. It has all the options *including” the suspension with the exception of multi pro tailgate the ultimate has and I gave 64 for it. I’ll keep my truck….
I went from a gmc Yukon Denali to a Chevy Avalanche LTZ wich I still have and love and now I have a 2025 Chevy Silverado High Country same color as video and I love it
Thanks for that comparison. I couldn't justify the cost difference going to the Denali Ultimate and you lose the option for the Max Trailering package. Still waiting for the NHT option to come back with the Duramax to order my new truck. Will it be 2023, or roll into 2024?
I got one yesterday at sticker. I found another locally that has the Yukon XL Ultimate I would like to replace my 19 Suburban but its sticker is $102k and they added on $10k so forget it I guess. Mine was basically $85k out the door. Won't have it till next week sometime though. They want to make sure my check clears and I gotta get up with my insurance company. I was there at 6pm Friday so the check won't even get deposited till Monday if banks are open guess they might take Mon off with Easter and all.
Late to the game here, but for anyone considering these two as 2024's the only features you get in an Ultimate that you cannot add to a High Country are that alcantara headliner (your truck and the ones I looked at in person were a hot mess of glue on the alcantara), the carbonpro bedliner (which seems incompatible with nearly every bed accessory/tonneau), the kicker speakers in the tailgate, and the more adjustable massaging front seats. The only thing I want from that "can't have" list are the massaging seats for long highway drives. The difference in price would pay for a lifetime of massages...
How about another class of clients? Craftsmen who get permanently injured at work. A truck is a big part of identity especially when it’s the tool used most. Someone like that needs the smoothest possible ride just for pain management. So thank you for bringing up the ride quality difference.
Nearly identical trucks but I think the Denali is just $10K of bling so I woiuld opt for the High Country. It is always the small stuff and I was surprised when you opened the upper glove box, on both trucks, they snapped open unstead of a soft open. I would expect more for the money they want.
Your wrong the ultimate package is far superior adding a 6.2 engine is standard and the interior is much better appointed also 22 inch wheels cone standard and magna ride suspension is amazing too it’s the worth the 10k oh and message seats and also the audio system is much better too
@@cbruno12180 You can get the 6.2, 22" wheels, and manga ride on the High Country and still save thousands vs the Denali Ultimate. You're basically paying a huge premium for an expensive badge, nicer leather, every option box checked, and a partially redesigned front-end (lower portion of the grill is still chrome and doesn't match). Although I'd highly recommend avoiding the 22's unless you like a jittery ride. And unless you need the fastest truck GM offers, the 3.0 diesel is a much better engine. Far more reliable, smoother, and real world fuel economy is crazy good.
@@GotronFerret if you load up a high country with all the options of a denali ultimate it’s gonna be the same money even I’ve done it many times I’ve spent hours trying to configure them both it might be 1500 diff maybe but ur still not getting the new interior of the denali and trim application face it the gmc is better dressed man
@@cbruno12180 You can price and spec a high country about the same as a Denali, but not a Denali Ultimate. The Ultimate is quite a bit more. You do get some extra options, but that's up to you if it's worth the rather high premium. Also, don't forget you typically get way more discounts on a Chevy. More dealers more volume. In TX I can easily find a comparable Chevy with nearly double the discount. Just bought my HC for $7k off sticker a few months ago. Couldn't get anywhere near that with a Denali, let alone an Ultimate.
The Denalis Vader chrome looks great against that grey\silver paint, even though I'm not a huge fan of the new grille styling. And those cars whizzing by is making my anxiety act up. Film in a parking lot next time 😂😂
Always prefer the GMC style over the Chevy. In a 1500, the GMC is affordable. But in and HD at that price. I would certainly go Chevy. My opinion on the 3.0 diesel is they all should come with 3.73's. The 3.23's have no pep to get out of their own way.
I have not had a diesel since DEF. What do you do below 12 degrees when DEF freezes ? I live in the North and don't use my truck every day. Thinking about this engine but have not found any answers to this. Thanks for any advice.
@@Pickuptrucktalk There are a lot of videos about not letting your DEF freeze and keeping the DEF pumps heated and wrapped at the truck stops....they all gave below12 degrees as the problem temp
Hey Tim great video! I have a question though maybe you can answer (it's kind of related). I had been on the Chevy website "building" my truck (Silverado 1500 with the 3.0 diesel) off and on for a few months now but just recently I went on and it's no longer allowing me to select the "max tow package" option with the diesel - when I select it, it's telling me I have to switch to the 5.3 or the 6.2. But here's what's weird, when I go to the GMC website and do the exact same thing, I can still pick it with the diesel. I tried reaching out to Chevy through their virtual assistant messenger, but it was taking way too long to get a response. Do you have any insight on this as to what's happening? Thanks!
Hey Tim, I ordered a High Country beginning of January and GM hasn’t picked the order up yet, so who knows how long it will be before I get it. But I ordered it with the 3.0 diesel loaded basically with the same magnetic ride and super cruise. So it would be a better comparison to the ultimate Denali, only difference is massaging seats some materials on interior and the 11 speaker Bose system.
Dealers here have tons of trucks right now. I was told if I ordered a while back it would be at least 6 months. I went and bought a Denali Ultimate yesterday. The Chevy dealer 1/4 mile away had 1 High Country I think and a few LTZ. All the dealers here right now have tons of trucks in. Couldn't find anything forever unless it was stripped down cheaper models now they are finally showing up. Mine was built 3-14-23. Another GMC dealer I found had the twin to mine in a Yukon XL I want to go look at to as a replacement for my 19 Suburban but he tacked on $10k on top of the sticker price so guess they can keep it but its pearl white just that one is the 6.2 my new truck is a Duramax. Really wanted the 6.2 but seems damn near everything has the diesel.
As a chevy salesperson it all comes down to preffrence. Most folks who can afford these trucks, price point is not an issue. Crazy to see 1500 trucks that cost more than 2500/3500 HD's.
I have a 22 AT4 3.0 Duramax refresh with every available option. While I like the truck the electrical issues have me waiting for a GMC lemon law buy back. I had 5 tundras prior to the GMC, still have my 2017 Tundra Platinum. The GMC is a more comfortable and to many a better truck in almost every way. The big difference is the Tundra with 157,000 miles is still rattle free, tight and “drives” better than the GMC AT4. When I say drives better what I am referring is two major things that the Tundra has the GMC beat, turning radius, and throttle response. The GMC throttle response is what I would consider terrible. Tim please get your diesel to speed and then mash the pedal as you would if you needed to pass someone, the programming for the throttle response has a solid 2-3 second delay. No doubt the $72K AT4 is a beautiful truck but as soon as the new truck wow factor wears off after a few months you start looking at driving experience, the old Tundra beats it every time.
I think lower teams hold their value much better. BTW, my 2019 LTZ has some options that none of these luxury ones have, and I paid $49K in 2019. One of the most handy items that GM removed from all trucks is all 4 doors lock/unlock button on the door handles. I think I'm done with GM after more than 20 years of being their loyal customer. They're not really standing behind their products. You have to fight with them to take care of their design flaws. They have no respect for their customers anymore.
Just curious what features your 2019 LTZ has that the luxury 2023 models do not. Genuine question because it would be dumb for GM to drop useful features when making new luxury trucks.
@Theodore Schmidt when the rear window started leaking because of design flaws at 29000 miles and at 37th month, GM didn't approve the warranty call. Look at all the issues new Gen have had since 2019 and the GM's approach to address them. 8 speed transmissions are still unresolved mystery. Dealers' hands are tied.
Tim, Are the Denali seats more comfortable than the High Country? I looked at a Chevy dealer two years ago the seats were terrible. My Ridgeline is better. DIESEL Power !
Have LTZ myself. ..love it. no issues at all Have 20k mi now. Love the powertrain and tech pkg Stiker was $61k got thm down to $45 befor supply chain issues !!
I think they have been the same price as the 6.2 for a little while now but I bought an Ultimate Friday and I think there was $1k or $1500 off on diesels assuming its some sort of promotion going on now I don't know but I know I saw it was diesel days or something it said at the lot
Neither, both have way to much lipstick for a pickup. That’s probably why I bought a HD w/t with the features that matter on a truck. 6 passenger seating, rubber floors, 4wd, 5th wheel, plow prep, camper pack, Z71 off road and not a whole lot more. People who wear skirts can keep these two. A whole lot more capable pickup for a whole lot smaller check.
I am enjoying My 2024 Chevrolet 1500 High Country DURAMAX. My personal opinion the Chevy is a better truck of the two. Exterior & Interior wise. I ordered Mine so I am very pleased with the way GM crafted and fulfilled My specifications. BOW•TIE!!!
What is the difference in acceleration between 3.23 and 3.73 gearing? Is it notable? Looking to find a max trailering or diesel offroad package to get the 3.73 ratio. I figure it would be ideal for 35" tire upgrade. Do you still get the 9.76" ring gear with the offroad package?
No. If you option the Z71 package, you will get the 9.5 rear and the two speed transfer case. If you option in the NHT Max Tow, you get the 9.76 rear, but lose the two speed transfer case in all trims except HC. Not 100% sure on the GMC side.
Not much difference a trail boss 6.2 with 3.23 gear does a dragy 0 to 60 mph time in 6.5 seconds . A 6.2 Silverado rst with max tow package will be in the mid 5 second range 0 to 60 . Not much difference at all . Both accelerate fine . Not fast by any means . For a truck not bad . These numbers are not towing . Now if your towing 9000 lbs the max tow gears might be even more of a gap in time 0 to 60 mph
I know a person that I work with at work. He has close to 200000 miles on his 3. 0 Duramax add no issues And gets about 40 miles to the gallon and a seats are unbelievably comfortable unlike ford trucks.
@@TheAdamzboyz well Todd thanks for your warm reply. But I have. Did you order it recently? I’ve gone to three local dealerships and have researched it online. They are discontinuing the northsky blue metallic and for the 2024 model year they are calling it north shore blue metallic. That was all within the last two weeks. And the nht package with the desiel engine is also legit. 🤷♂️.
Neither, they’re nice, but they’re too pricey to get or to put to work and worry about scratching or getting it dirty. The more features on a truck, the more to break down the line.
The only think I like on GMC Ultimate is massage seats. I wish that was an option for High Country. I’m not going pay $10K more just to get massage seats
Composite beds are under-rated. I realize they're an expensive component and that's why they're in top trim but that's where they'll be least utilized. Connected Services is an automatic disqualifier in my book.
I’m currently on my 3rd Denali HD over the last 12 years, and I wouldn’t get the ultimate…. I don’t like the color of the interior. I’d prefer an Denali with the options close to the ultimate, but the darker trim and accent colors. As for Chevy versus GMC, I prefer the Sierra styling, however the Silverado stands out in a crowd, and typically has more aftermarket options …
Why do you do a lot of idling? Seems to be wasteful. When I am going into a store and there is a diesel idling nearby it often stinks - and if I must stand there loading my car, I will tell them to turn it off.
I'd rather have a more capable 3/4 ton with respectable payload capacity for towing. Don't get me wrong those trucks are really nice, but with all those options the payload numbers suffer.
We absolutely love our ‘23 LTZ Z71 LZ0 but I may give it a year or two and trade in for a certified pre owned high country or Denali for the extra goodies. Definitely don’t need them but they sure are nice!
It a fair comparison. The high country has less features. The regular Denali has more than the high country for a better price. And the diesel engine is cheaper then gasoline
the heavy duty 13,000 pound towing package with the two speed/4-Lo transfer case is only offered on the High Country and Denali. I have a 2022 Sierra SLT 6.2 , 3.42 rear end with the same features listed above. ($69,945=😞OUCH !!!) My question is if anyone else has the same package above NOT in a High Country or Denali????
Generally prefer looks of GMC over Chevy, esp in the HD trucks. Definitely don’t care for the brown in this GMC interior, tho. Also, options not really worth the huge price difference for me.
Kind of stupid spot on the gm for the charging ports by the cupholder. Any spills or drips picking up or setting down your drink and those ports are finished
The Ultimate isn’t quite as comparable to the High Country as the standard Denali. I think if you compared the price and features that way, they’d be much closer in price for similar features. I went with the AT4 over the Trail Boss because I got more features for a very modest price bump. I also couldn’t get the Multi-Flex tailgate on the Chevy but the Multi-Pro (same thing) is standard on the GMC. I like the AT4/Denali dash better, and honestly, I think it looks better-the Trail Boss has the dumb Trail Boss stickers on the bed and the taped on fake hood scoop and think the GMC looks more adult. The one thing I would have liked that I couldn’t get on the AT4 is the pearl white paint that can now be had on the Trail Boss.
@@carbb5760 I got the Duramax-first diesel I’ve owned (driven plenty) and I’m very pleased with it. It has effortless power and after about 1250 miles, I’m regularly getting well above EPA mileage. The first tank (which included lots of idling and test drives from the dealer, but only 8 miles on the odometer) averaged 24.1mpg, the second tank averaged an even 25mpg, I’m a little over 200 miles into the third tank and I’m averaging in the high 28mpg range. I have the standard bed and 20” wheels. I am a bit surprised by the DEF consumption though. I’m 3 bars down out of 8 with only 1250 miles on it. If that usage amount continues, I’ll only get a little over 3,000 miles per DEF tank, which works out to 600mpg-that’s not towing. I think the seats are the same as the High Country and Denali (different color of course) but because of the flat bottom, they feel a little firm-they could use some seat-bottom dishing to more evenly load your butt, but all of the Sierra’s and Silverado’s use the same seat shape. Another small gripe is the suspension, for being “off-road”, it still feels a little stiff and jittery over some bumps-18” wheels would probably help this some. I like the AT4/Denali dash/console better than the standard Sierra’s and all Silverado’s. The 360 view, ultrasonic parking sensors, and other camera’s are all almost necessary because visibility in tight quarters isn’t the best, but with all of the assistance those features provide, getting into tight spaces is pretty easy. It’s still new with few miles but so far, I’m really enjoying it and am thoroughly impressed.
@@lewiswatchorn7239 thanks for the detailed info. Ya I’m going to go drive the diesel next weekend and see how it is, I had been dead set on the 6.2l but it seems to be much less common and drives the price up quite a bit. The mpg info is super useful. Congrats and enjoy the truck!
@@roberthenry9319 i mean why have both, why not just one or the other. its like the chev, pontiac, buick, caddilac, gm days... make er all one save some cash
Neither, but I like the look of the GMCs. But would never spend that much for a Denali. I was set on getting the Duramax, as I am retiring and want to travel with a camper. I wanted the MPG. But the prices of new trucks are just insane. I bought a 2016 Tundra, (I had a 2010 before) with 54K miles. $30k. I can buy an awful lot of gas before I get close to $67k for a new truck. I loved my 2010 Tundra, before it got totaled. Yes it is a gas hog, but reliable and the resale is incredible.
Other than the diesel engine, a/c and maybe the multi function tail gate. I would be happy cranking down windows, cramping my foot on long hauls and two speed wipers. Bring back the manual stuff and lower the prices.
Had both and GMC is a bit nicer even though it's same.....just little things But 10k? chevy all day long.....I dont see it even remotely...... I would tear up the interior of any of these which is why I sold my Ram Laramie..... Have 22 RST and all the functions work....they did great job with new interior My 6th truck since 2020 so very familiar with new gen GM trucks, my GMC elevation was best looking by far....and multi tailgate is bad ass....i do miss it.
@@treborheminway3814 not saying I agree with that statement, but that’s what I hear back from automakers. They are all working on keeping prices down on volume trucks and are paying close attention to competitor’s pricing. It would likely be standard in higher end trucks, but not for volume trucks right now.
The "it isn't that much more" philosophy is how we got to the $80k ++ 1/2 ton pickups.
I wish I could give more than one thumbs up on this comment
The marketing team love people with that philosophy.
Yeah, he was wrong on that $13,000 is a huge difference
I love them all. I shopped Silverado ZR2 (76k), Sierra AT4X(82k )and AT4 (72k), Silverado High Country (71k) and Finally LTZ Silverado w/ Z71 package (64k). My first choice would have been AT4X but would have settled for the AT4 and almost bought it but dealer was still stiff arming me with the Trade for my 22 Tundra. I went with the LTZ since it was the most affordable AND the dealer gave me what I paid for the 22 Tundra a year prior AND I got 2.99% APR AND there was no “add ons” no “mark ups” not a single fee other than 300.00 dealer fee AND I got a life time powertrain warranty that also includes transmission. It was the deal I was seeking and couldn’t say no to. I got everything I wanted and saved thousands over the other deals. GMC Sierra is awesome but it is for the more “luxury” buyers. If money didn’t matter I would have the AT4X period. Like the general pool of truck buyers though, money does matter and therefore I’ll always have the Chevy. The more you spend on it the less you’ll want to “use” it anyway. The Silverado will work, the Sierra would shine like a Diamond in my drive way while I worship it’s beauty and pridefully pretend like I drive on mountains made of gold.
The ltz and the slt trims are the sweet spot. Plenty of bling without the extra trinkets. Wise choice. Enjoy your truck.
@@bobcook8576 Yes I agree. Got everything I want and need and it’s a fantastic value. The trade deal and financing rate it what put me in the Chevy had it been Sierra I would have been just as content. I don’t mind a little chrome. Both current set ups look great to me with the refresh and interiors are right where they need to be. Thanks!
I just traded my 23 tundra in for a 23 at4 LZ0.....so what made you trade up? Not happy with the tundra? I was really disappointed in the tundra once I actually got to test drive the at4 and see it in person.
@@corydelbiondo5773 Well it’s a bunch of little things that add up to a desire to be back in a GM truck. The seating position is better and more upright. The hood doesn’t blind me with glare from the sun. I love the radio controls on the back of the steering wheel. The remote start stays on when doors unlocked. The radio also stays on when truck is turned off till I open the door. The auto start stop button is easily within quick reach. Heated steering button is ON the steering wheel. Infotainment system is tilted towards me so it’s easy to see without glare. Larger windshield for better visibility. “Auto 4x4” for those snowy days where you don’t need 4x4 all the time. Tighter turning radius making it easier to park in a pinch. Also option for V8 or Diesel. List goes on. Metal bumpers instead of plastic. Rear bumper steps. Tow hooks. It’s almost like GM has been building trucks for over a hundred years or something.
@@josephkraft5640 I had a pontiac grand prix years ago that was a piece of crap and part of the reason I switched to Toyota. My wife's 14 4runner and my previous 07 tundra were tanks compared to my 23 tundra. I keep my vehicles a long time and GM definitely did a better job or Toyota just dropped the ball all together. Crossing my fingers that by switching back to GM I'm not sacrificing too much reliability. Everything you mentioned and a few other things are what I also agree on. Add that to the hideous front end I felt I had to spend thousands on a lift, tires and paint match front end. My 23 at4 looks great and needs nothing as it is. I do think the cameras were better on my tundra. I still can't believe I bought a brand new tundra then traded it in 5 months later. That's not the kind of person I am and I paid a pretty hefty stupid tax but I love this at4 I don't want to stop driving it lol
I love my 24 Chevy LT. $73,300 -$6,000 EMPLOYEE DISCOUNT. Leather, Camera's, Z71, 2500 DURAMAX. My last truck.
I would probably go with the Silverado mainly because of the price point. I’m glad that GM finally updated the interiors. Looks fantastic.
The price is because it doesn't have the tail gate, the power steps, pretty sure his truck doesn't have adaptive cruise. The High Country can be equipped to be nearly as expensive as the Denali Ultimate. If he had more equipment to make it closer to the Denali the price would probably be in the $74-76k range. The High Country is more in line with the standard Denali. I was looking at both. Actually bought a 23 Ultimate yesterday. Can't pick it up till sometime next week probably. Have to get up with my insurance company and since I wrote a $85k check they wanted to make sure I had money for that check to clear before handing the truck over lol. I wanted the 6.2 though really and its the Duramax. Its pearl white which it seems they all are.
@@JesseLJohnson Nice! Congrats on your new truck.
That $80K tag is what intimidates most people. I like both trucks, it comes down to personal preferences. Love the video sir. 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Hey Tim, as always, love your videos. I had originally ordered a 2022 refresh GMC Sierra Denali (with Max Towing) and the Duramax. What GMC neglected to tell me until just before the truck arrived (6 month wait) that I couldn't get the Max Towing on the Denali ... so I walked away from that truck (a bit pissed). In Sept of last year, I ordered a 2023 Chevy Silverado High Country, with the Duramax and Max Towing. After a month, I inquired about the order .. and the dealer told me that Max Tow was on constraint, and they had no idea when I would get my truck. So ... I promptly cancelled that order. So frustrated with GM, I finally started to look at other options .. and finally picked up a used (very low mileage) 2019 Ford F150 Lariat, with the 3.5L Ecoboost and Max Towing .... I couldn't be more happy .... it is meeting my current towing needs. Yeah, it's not new .. but it was also almost $25K-30K less than what I was going to spend on the GMC or Chevy. So, this Ford will suit my purposes for the next few years until either GM gets their act together, or I totally fall in love with Ford and order a new F150. Time will tell.
Both are very nice trucks. We went with the Ultimate and love it.
Just picked up my new high country with the 6.2 engine and love it so far 👍🏻
The GMC is my prefered one. So nice and look more luxurious.
I just traded my 23 tundra TRD off road premium in for a 23 Sierra at4 LZ0. I should have listened to your advise more about the tundra as you were spot on. It's a good truck but lots of cheap plastic, crappy infotainment, lack of easy bed access. I'm not one of these guys that constantly gets new vehicles. I keep mine for 10 years minimum. My last truck was an 07 tundra that I owned for 13 years. I felt I had to add too much in aftermarket items to my 23 tundra to make it feel like a real truck. The quality and fit and finish of the at4 feels night and day better for now. I love the LZ0. I paid a stupid tax getting rid of the tundra so soon but I'm so much happier.
I really do think a more Apple's to Apple's comparison would be the regular denali, not the denali ultimate to the high country even though they're both the top of the trim levels for their brands.
Ordered the Ultimate last weekend and found out Thursday GMC picked up the order and should be ready to go in 3-4 months. OTD price was $83,500.
Tim, the Denali and High Country are more of a true comparison. The Denali can be ordered with what is now called the Reserve package (once called the ultimate package) which includes 22” Wheels, Review camera mirror, HUD, power assist steps, adaptive cruise and power sunroof for 5k. Both Denali and Ultimate have the adaptive ride control. I believe the High Country can also get adaptive ride control.
Yes it can and the ultimate doesn’t have the dark red color either.
Another super fun video, thanks Tim. I much prefer the exterior styling of the GMC so I’d go that way. Although, I would get a lesser/different package (off road focused), but maintain all the features if that makes sense. Love the in-line diesel engine. For now, as I continue to drive on top of places like Imogene pass, Hurrah pass etc. I’ll stick with the power wagon… which incidentally does have the camera, rearview mirror, adaptive cruise control, heated/ventilated seats, large screen, upgraded audio system, etc. But that GMC sticker price, could likely not get passed that. I feel very fortunate I paid a reasonable price for my 2021 PW, which I ordered November 2020 (6K under sticker discount). If I ordered the same truck today, roughly $13,500 more (my discounted price vs. todays MSRP). High end trucks today is not affordable to the average working person as you mentioned, that is for certain.
It’s terrible gmc prices and the way they pack options is ridiculous if u want an at4 with the deisel it’s gonna be 65k easy u can get a lt trailboss with a deisel for 60k loaded nicely
@@cbruno12180 yes sir, I agree 100%
As much as I love my ‘19 PW, the 14 mpg I’m averaging right now on a 80 mile round trip commute is not great. The 3.0L Diesel is so temping - but so is an F150 PowerBoost. But the Ford seems boring coming from the PW. Sierra AT4 might be the answer for me. I do tow a 14’ enclosed trailer (dual axel cargo converted to a minimalist camper/dirt bike hauler) which the PW handles easily.
@@david935plum yes sir, my line of thinking aligns with yours for sure. I’m around 11mpg in town driving and 14.5 mpg at 75mph. But man I have owned a lot of trucks over the years (I’m 57), and this one is my absolute favorite. Of course all my previous trucks were diesels as I had towing needs. Now I only to my 3500lb little off road camper. But man that diesel mileage…tempting
I bought an Ultimate yesterday and they had 3 AT4 all had the Duramax and they weren't much cheaper then what I paid $85k. I think the AT4s were all in the $75k range. I really liked the colors they offer that you can only get with that trim. They had the tan and a brown and I think the other was red. Mine is the Ultimate and its pearl white with the Duramax. The Chevy dealer down the road Jud Kuhn had a few Silverados that were the Black Widow modded trucks think they were that were $95-100k each.
My 23 LTZ has HUD, adaptive cruise, camera mirror, I’m not missing a button next to the who farted button, and my wireless charger works and it stickered less than the High Country. Only thing the High Country has over the LTZ is colored seats.
Another great video as always. My problem is I don’t want that much luxury in a truck. I want to be able to use it like a truck and not feel bad about beating it up. To me the perfect trim is LT. You get your leather you get your GPS and that’s all you really need. I’ve always liked the look of the GMC better so for me to come down to price. If I could get the GMC pretty close to LT trim and Price I would go with it.
I agree with you to a degree. Some of this luxury is completely over the top. However, like Tim's said before, if you're gonna keep a vehicle for a while say at least 10 years features like heated seats and steering wheel do come in handy. Last thing you want to do is having regrets a couple of years into ownership.
@@IamGroot786 Heated seats sure. A GPS I guess. Leather...for me yes. Outside of that I don't need much hence why I have a Tundra.
@@SuperSnakePlissken Yup, I only like leather because it's easier to clean and when you have kids and a dog that comes with the territory. It doesn't mean that I'd need fancy stitching on it though. Nothing wrong with a Tundra, they're solid.
@@IamGroot786 Exactly why I prefer leather. Easy to clean and especially with our dog its as simple as vacumming it up. The fibers in cloth seats hold onto that dog hair and its a nightmare to get off.
So another comparison point for the viewers. I recently purchased a 2023 GMC SIERRA SLT With the LZ0 diesel for $66K. It has the X31 off road package, multipro tailgate, spray-in bed liner, 3.23 rear axle ratio, 20” all terrain tires. It has a similar interior layout as the High Country Silverado. Functionally it works the same as the GMC DENALI ULTIMATE but does not have; carbon bed, digital rear view mirror, heads-up display, upgraded seats, upgraded suspension. Over the first 2300 miles I am averaging 27 mpg. So the viewer needs to decide whether spending an additional $14K for the DENALI is worth the extra cost for better creature comforts?
I have the Ultimate with the 3.0 diesel and I get between 26-29 mpg on the highway. It’s crazy to go 600+ miles before I have to fill up. About 22-25 only my regular usage.
In a 1500 I would buy the GMC. It’s a better look overall with a few upgrades over the Chevy. In the HD segment I would only buy the 2024 High Country, it looks great.
You've complained about the lack of GM seat comfort on longer trips (TrailBoss/AT4) in the past. Is seat comfort better in these trucks or the same?
Great video. My one issue is the 2 trucks are not equal. You took a base High Country and compared it to a fully maxed out Ultimate.
The High County is missing a lot of the features that support that large price difference. Smaller wheels, stationary RBs, HUD, full surround camera system, rear camera mirror, power moonroof, suspension is different etc. I like all your videos. I appreciate all the work you put in to these.
This one just bugs me lol.
I think I actually prefer the Chevy, the gmc is a loud, look at me type vehicle and I’m not about that. I actually think the sweet spot for the gm and chev line is the elevation/rst packages. You get all the critical features and a great looking truck. Every powertrain is available and they can be optioned well. I don’t feel like either the Denali ultimate or high country are very practical- low payload, very expensive and I wouldn’t want to get them dirty. Good video
I agree. I don’t like chrome. Picked up an RST 3.0 LZ0 with all blacked out badging and tube steps, black 20” wheels. Looks really sweet….of course my RST ran $66k!
@@garrybillick3979 how do you like it so far? I really like the 6.2 I’m not as sure if the diesel would be a powertrain I like and the price of diesel is insane now
While I like the Danali's interior the best I would probably go with the Silverado for the price plus I actually prefer the exterior styling, it's a bit sleeker looking.
What have you thought about the seat comfort in the high country?
I assume they are similar between the high country and regular Denali. Wondering how much of difference is between their seats and other brands.
I got Z71 LTZ with technology package and got multi flex , heads up , sunroof, rear view and bed view camera .. except high country badging and hell of the deal I was looking at high country to buy and they were not equipped with these features so don’t think buying high country or denali you’re going to get it all..
I was going to get a 2022/23 Silverado but due to the dealership shortcomings (lack of communication mostly, plus wanting $2k to put the order in) I ended up canceling that and ordering a Sierra 1500 Denali (not Ultimate). I don't want a sunroof in my truck. Which removed the Ultimate from consideration. Added the technology package, and went with the 6.2L v8 (hella FUN!). Took about four months for it to get into my hands with ALL the features included. Nothing removed due to chip shortages. 😁
I really do like the interior styling for the top GMC trim levels. Silverado is the same across all trim levels (IMO, fail on Chevy side). The better suspension in the Denali line was also a draw for me. I don't go off roading with my truck, so the improved road ride quality is greatly appreciated.
I ended up going with a lease on the new truck to get my payments even lower than for the 2020 Silverado LTZ Z71 I traded in. Changed insurance companies and my total cost is about $200 less per month for the Denali.
At this point I cannot see ever going with a lower trim level truck. With the issues I faced with the Chevy dealership (I'm not the only person) and how great the GMC dealership was, I've switched. While the Chevy trucks are lower sticker price, I fully believe that you get more truck value with the GMC trucks. Especially with the Denali trims. I also appreciate how the quality of people working at the [local] GMC dealership just seem to be at a higher level of professionalism when compared with the Chevy dealership. While there ARE good people working at the Chevy dealership, there are ones that also fall short. My last two truck purchases at the Chevy dealership were not of the same level (sales person) as the first one I went through.
Great video Tim! I am interested in the Chevy, but have a few questions. You mentioned the suspension in the GMC is a Magnaride. Is the High Country suspension, the same suspension in the lower trims? Also, you mentioned the GMC had triple paned something which I assumed keeps the truck interior quieter. Is there a big difference in cabin interior sound?
The High Country 1500 is available with four different suspensions. It comes standard with the Z82 tow package that most GM trucks have, but is available with Z71 off-road suspension, NHT max towing suspension, or Z45 adaptive (not magnetic) ride control suspension. Denali and Denali Ultimate 1500s come only with Z45. They all share the triple-sealed (two sets of weather stripping on the door, one on the body) inlaid doors, so the only major noise differences come down to tire choice.
Also worth noting, as of the 2023 MY, for the Silverado, the only way to get adaptive suspension is to option the 22" wheels, which is dumb since they kill the ride. The Denali offers Magnaride standard, meaning you can pair with 20" wheels. Otherwise you can pretty much option them about the same.
The GMC is a bit quieter. And yes, you do pay for those upgrades vs the Chevy. Especially when it comes to dealer discounts, which can make the Chevy considerably cheaper and a better value.
High Country seems like a better value but the Delani exterior and interior are so much nicer.
Ultimate is probably a step above high country. Whats the price difference between Delani and high country?
Delani and at4 are great trucks. But im having trouble pulling trigger with all the engine problems I read about.
same
There is a huge difference between the 2 in equipment that makes up the price difference. If the High Country he has was maxxed out on options it would be more like $75k range. The Ultimate has a lot that High Country doesn't. I just bought an Ultimate yesterday. I was just going to look at a couple dealers that are right next to each other and I never left the GMC dealer for the Chevy across the street. One of the things was I wanted the Ultimate interior color since High Country I think can only be had in black or blue interior.
The brown interior is nice.
I have a 21 high country with a 6.2. It has all the options *including” the suspension with the exception of multi pro tailgate the ultimate has and I gave 64 for it. I’ll keep my truck….
I went from a gmc Yukon Denali to a Chevy Avalanche LTZ wich I still have and love and now I have a 2025 Chevy Silverado High Country same color as video and I love it
Supposed to be 2024 High Country
Thanks for that comparison. I couldn't justify the cost difference going to the Denali Ultimate and you lose the option for the Max Trailering package. Still waiting for the NHT option to come back with the Duramax to order my new truck. Will it be 2023, or roll into 2024?
By the sounds of what I’ve been reading, you won’t get a 2023.
Lol, you said fake wood in the gmc Denali ultimate, its real wood! 🤣🤣
Like your vids, Tim, but you definitely love the unobtainium. These trucks are lot candy.
I will go with the ultimate but I'm trying to find a dealer within range that doesn't charge the markup because I refuse to pay that.
I got one yesterday at sticker. I found another locally that has the Yukon XL Ultimate I would like to replace my 19 Suburban but its sticker is $102k and they added on $10k so forget it I guess. Mine was basically $85k out the door. Won't have it till next week sometime though. They want to make sure my check clears and I gotta get up with my insurance company. I was there at 6pm Friday so the check won't even get deposited till Monday if banks are open guess they might take Mon off with Easter and all.
Late to the game here, but for anyone considering these two as 2024's the only features you get in an Ultimate that you cannot add to a High Country are that alcantara headliner (your truck and the ones I looked at in person were a hot mess of glue on the alcantara), the carbonpro bedliner (which seems incompatible with nearly every bed accessory/tonneau), the kicker speakers in the tailgate, and the more adjustable massaging front seats.
The only thing I want from that "can't have" list are the massaging seats for long highway drives. The difference in price would pay for a lifetime of massages...
How about another class of clients? Craftsmen who get permanently injured at work. A truck is a big part of identity especially when it’s the tool used most. Someone like that needs the smoothest possible ride just for pain management. So thank you for bringing up the ride quality difference.
Nearly identical trucks but I think the Denali is just $10K of bling so I woiuld opt for the High Country. It is always the small stuff and I was surprised when you opened the upper glove box, on both trucks, they snapped open unstead of a soft open. I would expect more for the money they want.
Your wrong the ultimate package is far superior adding a 6.2 engine is standard and the interior is much better appointed also 22 inch wheels cone standard and magna ride suspension is amazing too it’s the worth the 10k oh and message seats and also the audio system is much better too
@@cbruno12180 You can get the 6.2, 22" wheels, and manga ride on the High Country and still save thousands vs the Denali Ultimate. You're basically paying a huge premium for an expensive badge, nicer leather, every option box checked, and a partially redesigned front-end (lower portion of the grill is still chrome and doesn't match).
Although I'd highly recommend avoiding the 22's unless you like a jittery ride. And unless you need the fastest truck GM offers, the 3.0 diesel is a much better engine. Far more reliable, smoother, and real world fuel economy is crazy good.
@@GotronFerret if you load up a high country with all the options of a denali ultimate it’s gonna be the same money even I’ve done it many times I’ve spent hours trying to configure them both it might be 1500 diff maybe but ur still not getting the new interior of the denali and trim application face it the gmc is better dressed man
@@cbruno12180 You can price and spec a high country about the same as a Denali, but not a Denali Ultimate. The Ultimate is quite a bit more. You do get some extra options, but that's up to you if it's worth the rather high premium.
Also, don't forget you typically get way more discounts on a Chevy. More dealers more volume. In TX I can easily find a comparable Chevy with nearly double the discount. Just bought my HC for $7k off sticker a few months ago. Couldn't get anywhere near that with a Denali, let alone an Ultimate.
The Denalis Vader chrome looks great against that grey\silver paint, even though I'm not a huge fan of the new grille styling. And those cars whizzing by is making my anxiety act up. Film in a parking lot next time 😂😂
Always prefer the GMC style over the Chevy. In a 1500, the GMC is affordable.
But in and HD at that price. I would certainly go Chevy. My opinion on the 3.0 diesel is they all should come with 3.73's. The 3.23's have no pep to get out of their own way.
The Trailboss is way better looking that GMCs AT4. Same goes with Chevys new midsize trucks.
I have not had a diesel since DEF. What do you do below 12 degrees when DEF freezes ? I live in the North and don't use my truck every day. Thinking about this engine but have not found any answers to this. Thanks for any advice.
What do you mean DEF freezes? It was -25 here at times and never had an issue.
@@Pickuptrucktalk There are a lot of videos about not letting your DEF freeze and keeping the DEF pumps heated and wrapped at the truck stops....they all gave below12 degrees as the problem temp
@@ricks7432 negative 12 degrees DEF can freeze. I’ve never had a problem at all. Lots of fear about DEF out there.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Thanks....good to hear......I got my eye on that High Country with the Deisel
Hey Tim great video! I have a question though maybe you can answer (it's kind of related). I had been on the Chevy website "building" my truck (Silverado 1500 with the 3.0 diesel) off and on for a few months now but just recently I went on and it's no longer allowing me to select the "max tow package" option with the diesel - when I select it, it's telling me I have to switch to the 5.3 or the 6.2. But here's what's weird, when I go to the GMC website and do the exact same thing, I can still pick it with the diesel. I tried reaching out to Chevy through their virtual assistant messenger, but it was taking way too long to get a response. Do you have any insight on this as to what's happening? Thanks!
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@@Pickuptrucktalk UGH that's what I was afraid of. Dang. Oh well thanks for the info, appreciate it!
Hey Tim, I ordered a High Country beginning of January and GM hasn’t picked the order up yet, so who knows how long it will be before I get it. But I ordered it with the 3.0 diesel loaded basically with the same magnetic ride and super cruise. So it would be a better comparison to the ultimate Denali, only difference is massaging seats some materials on interior and the 11 speaker Bose system.
Dealers here have tons of trucks right now. I was told if I ordered a while back it would be at least 6 months. I went and bought a Denali Ultimate yesterday. The Chevy dealer 1/4 mile away had 1 High Country I think and a few LTZ. All the dealers here right now have tons of trucks in. Couldn't find anything forever unless it was stripped down cheaper models now they are finally showing up. Mine was built 3-14-23. Another GMC dealer I found had the twin to mine in a Yukon XL I want to go look at to as a replacement for my 19 Suburban but he tacked on $10k on top of the sticker price so guess they can keep it but its pearl white just that one is the 6.2 my new truck is a Duramax. Really wanted the 6.2 but seems damn near everything has the diesel.
It is stupid that you can not get 2 speed transfer case and max trailer pack unless you go to High County trim level.
Seems like it also has messaging seats . Is that correct.?
Ultimate does
The 6.2 engine is one primarily and the interior appointments are far superior
As a chevy salesperson it all comes down to preffrence. Most folks who can afford these trucks, price point is not an issue. Crazy to see 1500 trucks that cost more than 2500/3500 HD's.
I have a 22 AT4 3.0 Duramax refresh with every available option. While I like the truck the electrical issues have me waiting for a GMC lemon law buy back. I had 5 tundras prior to the GMC, still have my 2017 Tundra Platinum. The GMC is a more comfortable and to many a better truck in almost every way. The big difference is the Tundra with 157,000 miles is still rattle free, tight and “drives” better than the GMC AT4. When I say drives better what I am referring is two major things that the Tundra has the GMC beat, turning radius, and throttle response. The GMC throttle response is what I would consider terrible. Tim please get your diesel to speed and then mash the pedal as you would if you needed to pass someone, the programming for the throttle response has a solid 2-3 second delay. No doubt the $72K AT4 is a beautiful truck but as soon as the new truck wow factor wears off after a few months you start looking at driving experience, the old Tundra beats it every time.
Never had an issue with passing semi trucks going 75 mph with my GMC SIERRA LZ0, 2-3 second lag time not mine.
Tundra’s are solid I would keep the platinum
Why did you have five Tundras? If they're so good, why did you need more than one .
Very nice looking truckS
Hey Tim. Besides maybe nicer touches on the inside is the super cruise only main difference if your comparing apples to apples ?
I think lower teams hold their value much better.
BTW, my 2019 LTZ has some options that none of these luxury ones have, and I paid $49K in 2019.
One of the most handy items that GM removed from all trucks is all 4 doors lock/unlock button on the door handles.
I think I'm done with GM after more than 20 years of being their loyal customer. They're not really standing behind their products. You have to fight with them to take care of their design flaws. They have no respect for their customers anymore.
I can’t imagine why lock/unlock buttons are needed on the back doors; they’re barely 3 feet apart! It’s a totally egregious money grab.
Just curious what features your 2019 LTZ has that the luxury 2023 models do not. Genuine question because it would be dumb for GM to drop useful features when making new luxury trucks.
The dealer you purchased the vehicle from is key to getting warranty issues taken care of, GM is usually not at fault for lack of customer service
@Theodore Schmidt when the rear window started leaking because of design flaws at 29000 miles and at 37th month, GM didn't approve the warranty call. Look at all the issues new Gen have had since 2019 and the GM's approach to address them. 8 speed transmissions are still unresolved mystery. Dealers' hands are tied.
Tim,
Are the Denali seats more comfortable than the High Country? I looked at a Chevy dealer two years ago the seats were terrible. My Ridgeline is better.
DIESEL Power !
I think it is about the same.
Thank you for the reply Tim.
Seat comfort is important to me.
Love you truck vids.
See you down the road.
My favorite truck is the one Tim has, not the GMC Sierra. I like the Silverado 1500 with 3.0 Diesel engine more than any 1/2 ton truck.
This is the way
Have LTZ myself. ..love it. no issues at all Have 20k mi now. Love the powertrain and tech pkg Stiker was $61k got thm down to $45 befor supply chain issues !!
So my brother was looking at 1/2 ton gm trucks. He said the 1/2 ton diesels are now a $1,000 cheaper then a gas?? Is there a special on the diesels???
I think they have been the same price as the 6.2 for a little while now but I bought an Ultimate Friday and I think there was $1k or $1500 off on diesels assuming its some sort of promotion going on now I don't know but I know I saw it was diesel days or something it said at the lot
Neither, both have way to much lipstick for a pickup. That’s probably why I bought a HD w/t with the features that matter on a truck. 6 passenger seating, rubber floors, 4wd, 5th wheel, plow prep, camper pack, Z71 off road and not a whole lot more. People who wear skirts can keep these two. A whole lot more capable pickup for a whole lot smaller check.
I am enjoying My 2024 Chevrolet 1500 High Country DURAMAX. My personal opinion the Chevy is a better truck of the two. Exterior & Interior wise. I ordered Mine so I am very pleased with the way GM crafted and fulfilled My specifications. BOW•TIE!!!
Love mine to got 3 months ago
What is the difference in acceleration between 3.23 and 3.73 gearing? Is it notable? Looking to find a max trailering or diesel offroad package to get the 3.73 ratio. I figure it would be ideal for 35" tire upgrade. Do you still get the 9.76" ring gear with the offroad package?
No. If you option the Z71 package, you will get the 9.5 rear and the two speed transfer case. If you option in the NHT Max Tow, you get the 9.76 rear, but lose the two speed transfer case in all trims except HC. Not 100% sure on the GMC side.
Not much difference a trail boss 6.2 with 3.23 gear does a dragy 0 to 60 mph time in 6.5 seconds . A 6.2 Silverado rst with max tow package will be in the mid 5 second range 0 to 60 . Not much difference at all . Both accelerate fine . Not fast by any means . For a truck not bad . These numbers are not towing . Now if your towing 9000 lbs the max tow gears might be even more of a gap in time 0 to 60 mph
I know a person that I work with at work. He has close to 200000 miles on his 3. 0 Duramax add no issues And gets about 40 miles to the gallon and a seats are unbelievably comfortable unlike ford trucks.
He's not getting 40mpg.
Yea ✅️
@@bookooc5605 On all highway driving long trips I get about 32 MPG with the best 50 miles averaging 36.2. Not 40 but pretty close.
Not a chance he's getting 40 mph.
Going to in to buy my HC today! Northsky Blue Metallic.
Would love to know how you are pulling that off. They discontinued the color and the diesel/NHT packaging
Discontinued the color. Aren’t offering those two packages together right now. *
@@adamcosnek1296 huh, just bought my 2023 HC in that color with those options. Check your facts man.
@@TheAdamzboyz well Todd thanks for your warm reply. But I have. Did you order it recently? I’ve gone to three local dealerships and have researched it online. They are discontinuing the northsky blue metallic and for the 2024 model year they are calling it north shore blue metallic. That was all within the last two weeks. And the nht package with the desiel engine is also legit. 🤷♂️.
Picked up my new RST 2 weeks ago….LZ0 with NHT in Glacier Blue….there are still some diesels with max tow floating around
Neither, they’re nice, but they’re too pricey to get or to put to work and worry about scratching or getting it dirty. The more features on a truck, the more to break down the line.
I'm more of a function over form guy. The GMC does not provide an additional 15K of benefit for me, just more glitz and a look at me truck.
GMC all the way
Both are nice trucks, if they only offered a black out package in the Chevrolet. Not sure the Denali is worth the added cost.
Also the seats on the GMC have more adjustability and massaging feature. If I had the money, GMC
I would buy the work truck version just like all of my trucks are.
The only think I like on GMC Ultimate is massage seats. I wish that was an option for High Country. I’m not going pay $10K more just to get massage seats
Composite beds are under-rated. I realize they're an expensive component and that's why they're in top trim but that's where they'll be least utilized. Connected Services is an automatic disqualifier in my book.
They started offering the premium suspension on the High Country.
Is the high country, the top of the line and Chevy trucks compared to the Denali ultimate?
They are both top of the line but the High Country is comparable to the Denali not the Denali Ultimate.
The GMC in my opinion looks way better than a Ford equivalent but have some work to do about reliability?
I can't remember ever needing 4 low. I do pull a trailee
I’m currently on my 3rd Denali HD over the last 12 years, and I wouldn’t get the ultimate…. I don’t like the color of the interior. I’d prefer an Denali with the options close to the ultimate, but the darker trim and accent colors. As for Chevy versus GMC, I prefer the Sierra styling, however the Silverado stands out in a crowd, and typically has more aftermarket options …
Why do you do a lot of idling? Seems to be wasteful. When I am going into a store and there is a diesel idling nearby it often stinks - and if I must stand there loading my car, I will tell them to turn it off.
Filming. I idle as I’m setting up the cameras and preparing to speak.
denali ultimate for sure as and older person i want the most comfert i can get
I'd rather have a more capable 3/4 ton with respectable payload capacity for towing. Don't get me wrong those trucks are really nice, but with all those options the payload numbers suffer.
We absolutely love our ‘23 LTZ Z71 LZ0 but I may give it a year or two and trade in for a certified pre owned high country or Denali for the extra goodies. Definitely don’t need them but they sure are nice!
Hoof Hearted Button worth the 80K
$13,000 isn’t that much more???? Wish I had your bank account….prices are ridiculous.
It a fair comparison. The high country has less features. The regular Denali has more than the high country for a better price. And the diesel engine is cheaper then gasoline
I like the grill and lights on the GMC, but its not worth 13k more. No way ...
the heavy duty 13,000 pound towing package with the two speed/4-Lo transfer case is only offered on the High Country and Denali. I have a 2022 Sierra SLT 6.2 , 3.42 rear end with the same features listed above. ($69,945=😞OUCH !!!)
My question is if anyone else has the same package above NOT in a High Country or Denali????
I don’t think you can get max trailering in the Denali line. At least it is not available on the gmc site when building a truck
Generally prefer looks of GMC over Chevy, esp in the HD trucks. Definitely don’t care for the brown in this GMC interior, tho. Also, options not really worth the huge price difference for me.
Kind of stupid spot on the gm for the charging ports by the cupholder. Any spills or drips picking up or setting down your drink and those ports are finished
Got a tundra platinum hybrid for the same price as the chevy with a nicer interior, power running boards, and TONS more power
Neither, I had to many problems on my 21’. I had the Diesel, most the issues had nothing to do with powertrain mind you.
The Ultimate isn’t quite as comparable to the High Country as the standard Denali. I think if you compared the price and features that way, they’d be much closer in price for similar features.
I went with the AT4 over the Trail Boss because I got more features for a very modest price bump. I also couldn’t get the Multi-Flex tailgate on the Chevy but the Multi-Pro (same thing) is standard on the GMC. I like the AT4/Denali dash better, and honestly, I think it looks better-the Trail Boss has the dumb Trail Boss stickers on the bed and the taped on fake hood scoop and think the GMC looks more adult. The one thing I would have liked that I couldn’t get on the AT4 is the pearl white paint that can now be had on the Trail Boss.
I’m thinking of either an at4 or a trail boss. Which powertrain did you get? How do you like the truck so far
@@carbb5760 I got the Duramax-first diesel I’ve owned (driven plenty) and I’m very pleased with it. It has effortless power and after about 1250 miles, I’m regularly getting well above EPA mileage. The first tank (which included lots of idling and test drives from the dealer, but only 8 miles on the odometer) averaged 24.1mpg, the second tank averaged an even 25mpg, I’m a little over 200 miles into the third tank and I’m averaging in the high 28mpg range. I have the standard bed and 20” wheels.
I am a bit surprised by the DEF consumption though. I’m 3 bars down out of 8 with only 1250 miles on it. If that usage amount continues, I’ll only get a little over 3,000 miles per DEF tank, which works out to 600mpg-that’s not towing.
I think the seats are the same as the High Country and Denali (different color of course) but because of the flat bottom, they feel a little firm-they could use some seat-bottom dishing to more evenly load your butt, but all of the Sierra’s and Silverado’s use the same seat shape. Another small gripe is the suspension, for being “off-road”, it still feels a little stiff and jittery over some bumps-18” wheels would probably help this some.
I like the AT4/Denali dash/console better than the standard Sierra’s and all Silverado’s. The 360 view, ultrasonic parking sensors, and other camera’s are all almost necessary because visibility in tight quarters isn’t the best, but with all of the assistance those features provide, getting into tight spaces is pretty easy.
It’s still new with few miles but so far, I’m really enjoying it and am thoroughly impressed.
@@lewiswatchorn7239 thanks for the detailed info. Ya I’m going to go drive the diesel next weekend and see how it is, I had been dead set on the 6.2l but it seems to be much less common and drives the price up quite a bit. The mpg info is super useful. Congrats and enjoy the truck!
i find it interesting they still even have chevy and gmc
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@@roberthenry9319 i mean why have both, why not just one or the other. its like the chev, pontiac, buick, caddilac, gm days... make er all one save some cash
You are not comparing apples to apples compare the regular Denali to the high country is a fair comparison the Ultima Dinali is a big upgrade
Sierra is a much better looking truck
I heard the seats are terrible in the GM trucks.
Neither, but I like the look of the GMCs. But would never spend that much for a Denali. I was set on getting the Duramax, as I am retiring and want to travel with a camper. I wanted the MPG. But the prices of new trucks are just insane. I bought a 2016 Tundra, (I had a 2010 before) with 54K miles. $30k. I can buy an awful lot of gas before I get close to $67k for a new truck. I loved my 2010 Tundra, before it got totaled. Yes it is a gas hog, but reliable and the resale is incredible.
How is an Ultimate not equipped with a phone charger????
that Denali Ultimate is now $90k+
GMC is asking stupid money for the few additions in the Ultimate version.
Other than the diesel engine, a/c and maybe the multi function tail gate. I would be happy cranking down windows, cramping my foot on long hauls and two speed wipers. Bring back the manual stuff and lower the prices.
I prefer Chevy price over GMC prestige.
Had both and GMC is a bit nicer even though it's same.....just little things
But 10k? chevy all day long.....I dont see it even remotely......
I would tear up the interior of any of these which is why I sold my Ram Laramie.....
Have 22 RST and all the functions work....they did great job with new interior
My 6th truck since 2020 so very familiar with new gen GM trucks, my GMC elevation was best looking by far....and multi tailgate is bad ass....i do miss it.
Why don't cars all come with built in dash cams?
Cost.
@@Pickuptrucktalk yeah, that $22 camera would put those $60k trucks with huge displays right into the stratosphere....
@@treborheminway3814 not saying I agree with that statement, but that’s what I hear back from automakers. They are all working on keeping prices down on volume trucks and are paying close attention to competitor’s pricing. It would likely be standard in higher end trucks, but not for volume trucks right now.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I guess I'll go aftermarket, just seems redundant when everything but a camera is already in the dash.
Did GMC / Chevy fix the clunking issues yet?
Clunking?
Neither too expensive, I paid 40k for my 2020 Toyota tundra TRD PRO and I thought it was too much 70k+ for new trucks now days are just overpriced.
I bought the GMC